As a software guy (not auto industry) I can easily imagine that the added complication on how to balance the electric and gas motors in these situations might have not been debugged. I'd be interested to know if there was a software upgrade after your Tucson Hybrid review that addressed the problems you found. Kudos for responding to reader comments and following up with a 2nd review.
It was nice of you to redo the test. You got a subscriber for the extra miles. I wonder what's the Hyundai's take in this... I'm waiting for the phev and your video made me skeptical
In the same boat here, I do think that PHEV will bring more power plus snow mode plus lock should help climb most trails I am planning on going. It is not a Bronco for sure.
Only things in PHEV that's likely to improve offroading is its weight. Otherwise I'd expect eco tires and similar off-road performance as hybrid model.
@@AndreySaf The problem is that in the previous video it was completely frozen. I'll discuss the issue with a dealer, but I doubt they have any answer...
I think their AWD designed for snow/rain mostly, not for offroad. And if you're going to do a lot of trails like that - you definitely need reconsider your choice. I am also waiting for phev and I think it'll do fine, since I need AWD only for bad weather conditions and hills
Ok, you are saying "center-locking" differential and I just took it to be you were talking a differential. My apologies. Next week I'll pick up some hearing aids to hear better. 😁
The AWD system connects to the rear with a clutch pack. It’s adjacent to the rear diff, but packaged close to it. I don’t say the diff is a clutch, but the AWD connection back there is for transferring power F to R. The rear is an open diff.
@@drivingsports Thanks for the video. You gave this HTRAC system a C grade. What grade would you give the CRV Hybrid you tested awhile back as well as the regular CRV system that you mentioned was less impressive. I’m not sure I’ve heard you give grades before, which is helpful, but just curious how you would compare the different systems through that lens.
@@jpnorth3557 I want to be cautious about revisiting old reviews “officially” but I’d say the CRV non-hybrid is in the “needs improvement” category, C- or a D. Subaru Forester would probably rank as a “B” with an A score yet to be achieved by a crossover.
@@drivingsports In terms of hybrid AWD systems overall, it seems like the Tucson and CRV would be more sure-footed on road than the Toyota e-AWD, but the Toyotas seem to do OK or even better if you’re willing to wait for them to figure out whatever off-road situation they’re encountering. It’s important to note that the RAV4 hybrid’s Trail mode is not intended for continuous on-road use so would be less helpful in ongoing snowy conditions for example. It’s only for limited off road use as featured in these reviews. That’s a bit of a dealbreaker for me. No perfect hybrid AWD system that I see.
Thank you so much for making this video! We've had the 2022 Tuscon for a couple months and I wanted to see how the different drive modes and the htrac worked. You really put it through its paces!
Difference could also be tires since most hybrids put super eco tires on which are worst off road. Changed my RAV4 hybrid XSE tires for Wildpeak AT trail rides and couldn't believe how much better it drives on gravel/off-road. Handling is worse than as expected but also much more comfortable over potholes/ruts.
I'm in the market for an SUV, and I know for fact 99.9999% of the time that I will be driving, it will be driven on the flat surface road. Heck, I don't even need an AWD which maybe needed maybe once or twice a year, if even that.
Actually the ground clearance on this ain’t that bad, over 8 inches is actually pretty good compared to the competition, Subaru is the champ when it comes to ground clearance with its 8.7 inches on all its vehicles minus the sedans and the brz…..on another note I really do love the taillight design on this Hyundai Tucson
If only they'd put more into the design style of the Forrester. Toyota Rav4 AWD XLE is 8.6" ground clearance, with an added 2" spacer lift kit it has the same ground clearance as a stock Tacoma. I drove mine through a 4'+ water crossing, over rock trails, and through sand dunes with absolutely zero problems on Toyo Open Country A/T III's. During a caravan trip that included my Rav4, Tacoma, Ranger, FJ, 4Runner, Silverado, and Wrangler, the only vehicle that got stuck was the Jeep.
Can you please retest Hybrid? There are so many people who would like to know if all Hybrids are like that Or was it that particular car had issues. We all will really appreciate it
The more I look into this, the more I'm convinced that whatever hybrid tucson they gave you to test had issues specific to that particular tester rather than the hybrid lineup as a whole. I've seen pretty much every review I could find and I haven't seen any other hybrid tucson do what yours was doing in similar situations. Here is a video of the Tucson hybrid going up against several other crossovers in offroad testing on the same course in the same day. The Tucson actually out-performed the others. It's in spanish, but you can clearly see the other vehicles having issues getting up the hills that the Tucson hybrid is climbing with little to no drama ruclips.net/video/etluZrWfq-s/видео.html
8:56 to 9:00 in the video you can see the left side tire sliping the whole car to the right side, avoiding the rock that you are trying to climb on. Same thing happens in all the drive mode.
I’d still get the hybrid. Personally I wouldn’t be taking it on any extreme courses such as your test. Just up a mountain pass or snowy city streets. I appreciate the improved gas mileage and other perks (a/c use while idling at a ferry terminal) you get with the hybrid. Great review as always. Thanks for a second chance review on this car.
@@glennharvey1472 I am guessing he means if you're on a ferry you can't idle with the gas engine (it's not allowed). Perhaps you can idle and only use electric power so there is no smog, therefore it's permitted.
If you do weekend adventures change the tires and offroading performance will be VASTLY better. I'd recommend Falken Wildpeak AT trail (made for compact SUVs) 👍
maybe with the electric motor assist when you go steep uphill the electric motor is under extreme load drawing high current which trips some safety measures
I put 245/65r17 all terrain tires on my awd and it only made a 1 mpg diff but the extra traction and wet handling is so much better. Also made it about 1/4 to 1/2 higher. there's clay roads where I live and when it rains it's soup...awesome traction and sand too. Still seeing 30-33 mpg going 70mph
Out of all the review videos, I found this Hyundai Tuscon video so informative. I am purchasing the Hybrid version and I know it did not perform as the ICE version. Thank you for this information. I am a fan of your channel and will continue to watch your channel.
With no underside skid pan protection my Hyundai ain’t going on this level of off road track. Great review of the 4x4 capability, thanks. Nice to see my car has my back in certain conditions though. 👏
@@giventorejoice I was surprised, I thought awd system is working properly, but actually it was getting out by slipping to side. And just for you removed LOL
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Please ask Hyundai for an international or Canadian model. It comes with mud and sand mode which I have found are much more aggressive and competent at wheel braking
While I am excited to see the course, I hope you continue to do part of the review on these back roads like you did in the second half of this video. The change in scenery as well as real world scenarios is what I like best in your reviews.
Our new hill is actually directly in between two different legs of the Washington back roads discovery route - opening even more “out there” driving options. Also, worth nothing I have heard that the road we use in the second half of this video is in an area that is scheduled to be logged - possibly soon. So at some point we’re not going to have access anyhow. At least to that specific road.
I've been thinking about buying the hybrid. Any way to find out if that test was anomaly or if Hyundai has fixed that programing? I need it to not cut out like that on bush roads
Thank you so much for redoing this test. I do hope they update that software for the hybrid to perform like this, atleast just for the snowy and muddy situation not so much for offroading. That'll atleast give me some relief during tricky weather situations.
A lot of this lack of capability has to do with the tires. I put falken all terrain tires on my 2020 Kona and with the center lock activated there isn't much it won't make it through on trails except for very large ruts that require a traditional 4wd vehicle.
How much difference would the 17" wheels on the lower end packages change the results/ability? I have a SEL base with those wheels, and the tires seem more "able" than the 19." I know from past experience that the right tires can dramatically improve off road performance!
Thank you for testing this version. I just bought this version BC I was not able to get the Hybrid. Im thinking I may attach a tow hitch and get a small camper. Do you have any recommendations on aftermarket Hitches?
This is actually very impressive for a city/commuter car. I expected it to struggle a lot more than it did. I'll never be taking mine on anything this extreme but it's good to know it could handle it if I did.
My best friend has a 2020 Tucson Awd and well it leaves alot wanting. My work car is a 1998 Mitsubshi Mirage aka the Hoptee . Its a hunk of junk but very very reliable hunk of junk. I had to pick him up cause he got stuck my car had no problems , but the same thing happened but his was odd. The real wheels did not want to work much it seemed it was sending all the power to the one front wheel and that was it. It seems alot of these Awd drive cars are like that save for Subaru...They seem to be much better.
I wonder if there was an issue with the specific test Hybrid unit rather than all the HTRAC Hybrid Tucsons. I would think the Santa Fe Hybrid would perform more or less the same. I am strongly considering the PHEV Tucson or Santa Fe, and its hard to get cars these days. You have to put deposits down in advance. I would hate to make a mistake I do light off-roading all the time.
It's a shame they even call something like this All Wheel Drive! It doesn't take a rocket scientist to put locking differentials in the front & rear differentials! But not even Subaru does that, But at least Subaru will apply the brake to the spinning wheel in an attempt to force the wheel with no traction. That works, but still not as good as a LSD, limited slip, locking differential, or whatever you want to call it.
Which all terrain tires would you recommend for this car? I live in Canada, -50 during winter. So we are planning two sets. Winter dedicated and all terrain for camping season
Falken Wildpeak A/T tires- they're designed for crossovers, sort of an A/T-lite tire, but everything from Subaru's to Jeep Cherokee's to Volvo XC70's use this tire to get effect. Do a bit of research if you want, but I'd highly recommend them.
Sorry in the phev there mud/snow ,Rock, sand, road. Why are you not using the different terrain settings. Why are you not using the Hill ascent and decent controls unless European tucson are very to north American where is you terrain response settings
Proper transmission, no DCT, no CVT, it would be Hyundais most capable. As a Subaru person I'd pick this over the latest Subaru purely because it has a proper transmission and a center lock. Hyundai make fantastic cars now, Subaru make boring city cars no matter what marketing drivel they dream up. Highest ground clearance and the fastest acting traction system in class doesn't mean jack when the car refuses to move under full throttle because it has a CVT.
While I understand that clutches get installed, in place of a dedicated true center diff. for $$$ savings, or because not a lot of people will ever go off roading. At the end of the day, these CUVs are being branded or commercialized as being able to go off road, but kill it, before they have a chance to prove themselves. Not smart. Of course this isn't just Hyundai Either way, for the "General Vanilla" public, eh!! It's okay..
2 things: ... 1) after the provoking conversations in the comments to your Hybrid Tucson off-road review, you showed humility & poise in not taking offense but in simply meeting the challenge. That deserves personal cudos. 2) quite the traction test, with only two wheels on the ground! Most of us would steer to avoid such if possible, but doing it does give insight into a potential black ice situation or snow etc. Good job! And you did say this non-hybrid did "just fine" on this actually difficult test. Washboard would indeed be an interesting dynamic to add for suspension insights. What an amazing property you guys are developing for tests! Thank you!
Hyundais engineers say otherwise. With ESC off the wheel brake vectoring is also disabled which is counter productive in off-road conditions. ESC off just encourages wheel spin but will not re-distribute torque.
Yes, maybe hybrid was the problem with that model on this same test. This straight 2.5 did quite as well as one could expect, I think, for a vehicle that's an SUV rather than a Jeep or Bronco or such.
Hey Ryan I like your test here on the normally-aspirated 2.5 car unfortunately I didn't see your test on the hybrid but let me tell you Ryan out here in California where we're paying $ 4.60 A gallon you two would be buying a hybrid .
@@haroldbeauchamp3770 140.000kms with my CVT Forester XT, and no problems at all either with transmission, nor oil consumption. I must say I don't live in USA, so probably that's the reason, as mine is not built in USA.
I do buy SEL AWD i like the new design. thank u for sharing this video now we know how good the TUCSON AWD perform or reaction for that kind of roads. 👍😊👍
I got a great solution. How about stop buying these under-engineered Hyundai-Kia products, complete waste of money. Why not just buy something that’s already proven from Japan, America, European stuff. The only people buying these cars are looking for value, bang for your buck stretch their dollar. Great video though, and honesty.
Will we ever see you do the Toyota Hilux? Many of the US SUV's aren't available here in Europe like the 4Runner. Would love to see how capable the Hilux is, kinda need something competent at offroading, carrying and towing things.
Just some Info to prove your point: we thought we were turning onto a dirt road in my girl's 2023 Tucson. It ended up being super thick mud. We had no intention of off roading. Lucky she has the HTRAC version or we would've gotten stuck.
I have this in a non-hybrid. I love it. I'm tossing a cabin on some very undeveloped property we own. Unless I'm towing the trailer in with a full load over mud or rain, she'll handle everything. Not an offroader but she's a damn sight better for the buck than I expected.
Can you do Hyundai Palisade Snow test again or off-road. Last time you vehicle shut down again and again. Don’t understand if that’s capable enough to take down those tracks.
Already bought the 22 Tucson SEL ICE/Non-EV in also Intense Blue and only FWD. If I could go back, I'd got the hybrid AWD due to more combined power, AWD, low end Turbo torque due to the 1.6T portion, and increased MPG. Besides that, I'm getting between 30-42MPG daily due to taking back roads with very little traffic and about 3-4 stops.
I bought the 2022 Santa Cruz with the 2.5 turbo. Same drive system with more available power. Thank you for your review on the system, it was very informative. As I have just bought the truck, Winter is coming up in “wonderful” Ohio, so I’ll be able to try it out soon, unfortunately.!!!!
I want the Hybrid for the savings in fuel and environmental impact. i want to understand the drive system better, it may be the set up that makes the difference. I really like the warrantee on this car. what I would like to know is the availability of parts for it, when it needs repairs. would I be stuck going to Hyundai or would there probably be knock offs. I currently drive a jeep liberty and I rarely get stuck for more then a few, it always get me out. TY for the review.
Hey Ryan I have this exact suv. I just ordered a Truxxx 2" lift kit. I will be adding 17" wheels with 245/70R17 AT tires. Do you think that will make your challenge course look like a breeze? 🤔
Soil have a kia hybrid and sometimes it stutters just pulling away from a stop sign. I think the software is trying to figure out if it wants to use the hybrid system, the gas motor or both. It's not often just enough to be annoying
Don't, I mean, DON'T try the AWD system on ECON mode. Since, this is not a crossover(!) but a hardcore off-roader (if you didn't know), some fanatics might get offended with the poor performance of the AWD system.
For off roading or trail driving, I would get that. However; for daily driving, I would get the Hybrid version. I do like this design better than the Santa Fe
Your testing is somewhat odd. In my opinion most people would go up a hill and stay on the gas to keep momentum, not stop and go. When I go up steep angles in my 2022 from grass to asphalt I don’t feel or hear any wheel slip.
At the beginning of the video he says his foot is to the floor but the vehicle's not going anywhere and that's not acceptable, yet he bought a Subaru crosstrek.
I have a 2022 tucson elite with the 1.6 turbo and I would never treat such a beautiful vehicle like this. If wanted to go 4wd i would buy an old toyota land cruiser and destroy that
Upvote so Hyundai fixes this stuff in their software. A somewhat offroad capable Tucson Hybrid makes for a ridiculously fuel efficient trail vehicle (with a little lift and the right tires) and it's a waste to not have it perform as well as possible.
All the drive modes in regular Hyundais and Kias are superfluous at best, just to make people who know almost nothing about cars feel better about the vehicle they purchased.
Well said! This is why manufacturers love selling SUVs with their higher markup. Also so many bells and whistles going into even base models these days (safety tech, infotainment, etc). These have to be paid for by the consumer. I personally like less tech on my car, lower price and higher reliability.
@@James-il3tq Same! I like simple, tried and true products. As much as a new vehicle might be more refined and "better", it really pains me that some things have gone so far forward technologically that they've actually gone backwards in their usability. It makes me want to drive nothing but older vehicles, despite their lack of modern crash structures.
As a software guy (not auto industry) I can easily imagine that the added complication on how to balance the electric and gas motors in these situations might have not been debugged. I'd be interested to know if there was a software upgrade after your Tucson Hybrid review that addressed the problems you found. Kudos for responding to reader comments and following up with a 2nd review.
It was nice of you to redo the test. You got a subscriber for the extra miles. I wonder what's the Hyundai's take in this... I'm waiting for the phev and your video made me skeptical
In the same boat here, I do think that PHEV will bring more power plus snow mode plus lock should help climb most trails I am planning on going. It is not a Bronco for sure.
Only things in PHEV that's likely to improve offroading is its weight. Otherwise I'd expect eco tires and similar off-road performance as hybrid model.
@@AndreySaf The problem is that in the previous video it was completely frozen. I'll discuss the issue with a dealer, but I doubt they have any answer...
@@jonathanxdoe they won't have any answer for sure.
I think their AWD designed for snow/rain mostly, not for offroad. And if you're going to do a lot of trails like that - you definitely need reconsider your choice. I am also waiting for phev and I think it'll do fine, since I need AWD only for bad weather conditions and hills
With no underside skid pan protection my Hyundai ain’t going on this level of off road track. Great review of the 4x4 capability, thanks. 👏
OMG first comment! Looking forward to this one! 😄
Ok, you are saying "center-locking" differential and I just took it to be you were talking a differential. My apologies. Next week I'll pick up some hearing aids to hear better. 😁
The AWD system connects to the rear with a clutch pack. It’s adjacent to the rear diff, but packaged close to it. I don’t say the diff is a clutch, but the AWD connection back there is for transferring power F to R. The rear is an open diff.
if someone uses these difficult roads do not buy hynday tuscon but Jeep wrangler or Ford Bronco...
They're not a problem for many soft roaders. RAV4, Subaru Crosstrek (non-hybrid) and Bronco Sport are three crossovers that do fine on it.
@@drivingsports Thanks for the video. You gave this HTRAC system a C grade. What grade would you give the CRV Hybrid you tested awhile back as well as the regular CRV system that you mentioned was less impressive. I’m not sure I’ve heard you give grades before, which is helpful, but just curious how you would compare the different systems through that lens.
@@jpnorth3557 I want to be cautious about revisiting old reviews “officially” but I’d say the CRV non-hybrid is in the “needs improvement” category, C- or a D. Subaru Forester would probably rank as a “B” with an A score yet to be achieved by a crossover.
@@drivingsports In terms of hybrid AWD systems overall, it seems like the Tucson and CRV would be more sure-footed on road than the Toyota e-AWD, but the Toyotas seem to do OK or even better if you’re willing to wait for them to figure out whatever off-road situation they’re encountering. It’s important to note that the RAV4 hybrid’s Trail mode is not intended for continuous on-road use so would be less helpful in ongoing snowy conditions for example. It’s only for limited off road use as featured in these reviews. That’s a bit of a dealbreaker for me. No perfect hybrid AWD system that I see.
@@drivingsports What about the Ford Bronco Sport?
Donde grabaron lugar donde hay deforestacion que triste ,y un carro contaminado ....
Thank you so much for making this video! We've had the 2022 Tuscon for a couple months and I wanted to see how the different drive modes and the htrac worked. You really put it through its paces!
Did you get the gas or hybrid? I think I'm ready to buy a Tucson but everyone says make sure the price for the hybrid is justified.
pickin ours up in 2 weeks
I think you are right - they may have assumed the hybrid won’t go off-roading.
Difference could also be tires since most hybrids put super eco tires on which are worst off road.
Changed my RAV4 hybrid XSE tires for Wildpeak AT trail rides and couldn't believe how much better it drives on gravel/off-road. Handling is worse than as expected but also much more comfortable over potholes/ruts.
I'm in the market for an SUV, and I know for fact 99.9999% of the time that I will be driving, it will be driven on the flat surface road. Heck, I don't even need an AWD which maybe needed maybe once or twice a year, if even that.
@@James-il3tq tire is the most important thing, I'd say it matters even more than the awd system.
Actually the ground clearance on this ain’t that bad, over 8 inches is actually pretty good compared to the competition, Subaru is the champ when it comes to ground clearance with its 8.7 inches on all its vehicles minus the sedans and the brz…..on another note I really do love the taillight design on this Hyundai Tucson
Are the rear turn signal indicator lights up high or down on the bumper?
@@pocobueno1 down on the rear bumper.
outlander sport is 8.5 and jeep compass trailhawk is 8.7
…ground clearance is not even 7 inches, just to correct your false statement… 8,7 inches for the Outback / Forester is correct though…
If only they'd put more into the design style of the Forrester. Toyota Rav4 AWD XLE is 8.6" ground clearance, with an added 2" spacer lift kit it has the same ground clearance as a stock Tacoma. I drove mine through a 4'+ water crossing, over rock trails, and through sand dunes with absolutely zero problems on Toyo Open Country A/T III's. During a caravan trip that included my Rav4, Tacoma, Ranger, FJ, 4Runner, Silverado, and Wrangler, the only vehicle that got stuck was the Jeep.
Can you please retest Hybrid? There are so many people who would like to know if all Hybrids are like that Or was it that particular car had issues. We all will really appreciate it
You deserve your own show on a TV channel. Congrats on the 200k subscribers
The more I look into this, the more I'm convinced that whatever hybrid tucson they gave you to test had issues specific to that particular tester rather than the hybrid lineup as a whole. I've seen pretty much every review I could find and I haven't seen any other hybrid tucson do what yours was doing in similar situations. Here is a video of the Tucson hybrid going up against several other crossovers in offroad testing on the same course in the same day. The Tucson actually out-performed the others. It's in spanish, but you can clearly see the other vehicles having issues getting up the hills that the Tucson hybrid is climbing with little to no drama
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8:56 to 9:00 in the video you can see the left side tire sliping the whole car to the right side, avoiding the rock that you are trying to climb on. Same thing happens in all the drive mode.
I’d still get the hybrid. Personally I wouldn’t be taking it on any extreme courses such as your test. Just up a mountain pass or snowy city streets. I appreciate the improved gas mileage and other perks (a/c use while idling at a ferry terminal) you get with the hybrid.
Great review as always. Thanks for a second chance review on this car.
Can you please expand on AC use while idling on the hybrid?
@@glennharvey1472 I am guessing he means if you're on a ferry you can't idle with the gas engine (it's not allowed). Perhaps you can idle and only use electric power so there is no smog, therefore it's permitted.
@@sdspecto Ah ok thanks!
If you do weekend adventures change the tires and offroading performance will be VASTLY better. I'd recommend Falken Wildpeak AT trail (made for compact SUVs) 👍
This is not even any extreme course. It's mild softroading. My civic sedan would made this too I think.
maybe with the electric motor assist when you go steep uphill the electric motor is under extreme load drawing high current which trips some safety measures
I put 245/65r17 all terrain tires on my awd and it only made a 1 mpg diff but the extra traction and wet handling is so much better. Also made it about 1/4 to 1/2 higher. there's clay roads where I live and when it rains it's soup...awesome traction and sand too. Still seeing 30-33 mpg going 70mph
Hybrid or standard?
Would love to see those.
May be try another hybrid again?
Out of all the review videos, I found this Hyundai Tuscon video so informative. I am purchasing the Hybrid version and I know it did not perform as the ICE version. Thank you for this information. I am a fan of your channel and will continue to watch your channel.
It not the hybrid it's your line you took and the condition of the road on that particular day.
With no underside skid pan protection my Hyundai ain’t going on this level of off road track. Great review of the 4x4 capability, thanks. Nice to see my car has my back in certain conditions though. 👏
Been a fan of this channel for a long time now. So I feel I can put my request in. - I’d love to see you review the RAM Rebel. 😃
It's slipping to right side pretty much in all modes while climbing that hill 😅
@@giventorejoice well, it has a hundred waves
@@giventorejoice I was surprised, I thought awd system is working properly, but actually it was getting out by slipping to side. And just for you removed LOL
@@petreberceanu8798 Lol, good luck with reliability. Never buy a used German car. Learned my lesson.
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Please ask Hyundai for an international or Canadian model. It comes with mud and sand mode which I have found are much more aggressive and competent at wheel braking
not happening, is not a rav4, its meant for city
@@robertoavalosjr.2529 can handle this mild softroad with ease.
@@RiasatAbir with a good impact on its exterior, for sure
@@robertoavalosjr.2529 lol it will handle same as rav4.
@@RiasatAbir lol no, no torque vectoring on all 4wheels, and dual wet clutch, of course not 😊
While I am excited to see the course, I hope you continue to do part of the review on these back roads like you did in the second half of this video. The change in scenery as well as real world scenarios is what I like best in your reviews.
Our new hill is actually directly in between two different legs of the Washington back roads discovery route - opening even more “out there” driving options. Also, worth nothing I have heard that the road we use in the second half of this video is in an area that is scheduled to be logged - possibly soon. So at some point we’re not going to have access anyhow. At least to that specific road.
I've been thinking about buying the hybrid. Any way to find out if that test was anomaly or if Hyundai has fixed that programing? I need it to not cut out like that on bush roads
Thank you so much for redoing this test. I do hope they update that software for the hybrid to perform like this, atleast just for the snowy and muddy situation not so much for offroading. That'll atleast give me some relief during tricky weather situations.
Great video. I am so curious about their HTRAC system as seriously considering the Santa Cruz when it comes out.
A lot of this lack of capability has to do with the tires.
I put falken all terrain tires on my 2020 Kona and with the center lock activated there isn't much it won't make it through on trails except for very large ruts that require a traditional 4wd vehicle.
How much difference would the 17" wheels on the lower end packages change the results/ability? I have a SEL base with those wheels, and the tires seem more "able" than the 19." I know from past experience that the right tires can dramatically improve off road performance!
Thank you for testing this version. I just bought this version BC I was not able to get the Hybrid. Im thinking I may attach a tow hitch and get a small camper. Do you have any recommendations on aftermarket Hitches?
This is actually very impressive for a city/commuter car. I expected it to struggle a lot more than it did. I'll never be taking mine on anything this extreme but it's good to know it could handle it if I did.
My best friend has a 2020 Tucson Awd and well it leaves alot wanting. My work car is a 1998 Mitsubshi Mirage aka the Hoptee . Its a hunk of junk but very very reliable hunk of junk. I had to pick him up cause he got stuck my car had no problems , but the same thing happened but his was odd. The real wheels did not want to work much it seemed it was sending all the power to the one front wheel and that was it. It seems alot of these Awd drive cars are like that save for Subaru...They seem to be much better.
I wonder if there was an issue with the specific test Hybrid unit rather than all the HTRAC Hybrid Tucsons. I would think the Santa Fe Hybrid would perform more or less the same. I am strongly considering the PHEV Tucson or Santa Fe, and its hard to get cars these days. You have to put deposits down in advance. I would hate to make a mistake I do light off-roading all the time.
Can't wait for the new track , on your hill 🔥💯
It's a shame they even call something like this All Wheel Drive! It doesn't take a rocket scientist to put locking differentials in the front & rear differentials! But not even Subaru does that, But at least Subaru will apply the brake to the spinning wheel in an attempt to force the wheel with no traction. That works, but still not as good as a LSD, limited slip, locking differential, or whatever you want to call it.
Which all terrain tires would you recommend for this car? I live in Canada, -50 during winter. So we are planning two sets. Winter dedicated and all terrain for camping season
Falken Wildpeak A/T tires- they're designed for crossovers, sort of an A/T-lite tire, but everything from Subaru's to Jeep Cherokee's to Volvo XC70's use this tire to get effect. Do a bit of research if you want, but I'd highly recommend them.
Sorry in the phev there mud/snow ,Rock, sand, road. Why are you not using the different terrain settings. Why are you not using the Hill ascent and decent controls unless European tucson are very to north American where is you terrain response settings
I don’t really understand why people make these videos. None of the vehicles in this class are made for off-roading out of the factory.
i love for you to get a buick envision to test
Proper transmission, no DCT, no CVT, it would be Hyundais most capable. As a Subaru person I'd pick this over the latest Subaru purely because it has a proper transmission and a center lock. Hyundai make fantastic cars now, Subaru make boring city cars no matter what marketing drivel they dream up.
Highest ground clearance and the fastest acting traction system in class doesn't mean jack when the car refuses to move under full throttle because it has a CVT.
Buy Nissan 😂
We got the 2.0 diesel Htrac in South Africa and it is great. Excellent fuel consumption too.
Great job explaining the drive modes. I would chose the non Hybrid.
Please stop what you are doing cross overs are not meant to do off roading. Someone will get hurt trying to copy what you are doing!!!!!!
While I understand that clutches get installed, in place of a dedicated true center diff. for $$$ savings, or because not a lot of people will ever go off roading. At the end of the day, these CUVs are being branded or commercialized as being able to go off road, but kill it, before they have a chance to prove themselves. Not smart. Of course this isn't just Hyundai
Either way, for the "General Vanilla" public, eh!! It's okay..
If this gets a "C", what gets a "B" or an "A"? Thanks for the informative videos!
Subaru Outback 2.4i wagon
Rav4 hybrid gets a B. It's EAWD but far improved in new Gen Rav4.
@@James-il3tq Subaru Outback 2.4i wagon is much better
2 things: ...
1) after the provoking conversations in the comments to your Hybrid Tucson off-road review, you showed humility & poise in not taking offense but in simply meeting the challenge. That deserves personal cudos.
2) quite the traction test, with only two wheels on the ground! Most of us would steer to avoid such if possible, but doing it does give insight into a potential black ice situation or snow etc. Good job! And you did say this non-hybrid did "just fine" on this actually difficult test.
Washboard would indeed be an interesting dynamic to add for suspension insights. What an amazing property you guys are developing for tests! Thank you!
Take the traction control off , mud or snow , mode with diff lock
Did much better and didn't cut power like the hybrid video, thanks for entertaining our speculation, it almost seems the hybrid was flawed.
ESC/traction control should be off.
This is why you're experiencing wheel spin even with center lock on.
Read the manual.
Hyundais engineers say otherwise. With ESC off the wheel brake vectoring is also disabled which is counter productive in off-road conditions. ESC off just encourages wheel spin but will not re-distribute torque.
Yes, maybe hybrid was the problem with that model on this same test. This straight 2.5 did quite as well as one could expect, I think, for a vehicle that's an SUV rather than a Jeep or Bronco or such.
As the weirdo who will absolutely lift and wheel this car, I thoroughly appreciate this video
Which is better for off-roading in your opinion, CX-5 or Tuscon?
Hyundai is impressing me recently with every new car they release.
It’s light are very poor, plz suggest what to get it done ??
Because it has 8 speed transmission with torque converter
Hey Ryan I like your test here on the normally-aspirated 2.5 car unfortunately I didn't see your test on the hybrid but let me tell you Ryan out here in California where we're paying $ 4.60 A gallon you two would be buying a hybrid .
I too live in California, besides the fuel costs, with the AWD we won't have to chain up when the first snowflake sticks to a road.
was du da machst, ist totaler quatsch. der tucson ist nicht für den harten gelände einsatz gedacht. musste n jeep nehmen....
If anyone drove my tucson on those rocks....😮
Would be interesting to see how Snow Mode works in .....snow.
I don't think this compet to the diesel car
do you know what it is only 1.6ton
I'll take Subaru Forester Sport to this.. 🤷🏻♂️
Famous last words of a fool. I hope you like cvt failures and oil consumption.
@@haroldbeauchamp3770 Sure :)
@@haroldbeauchamp3770 140.000kms with my CVT Forester XT, and no problems at all either with transmission, nor oil consumption.
I must say I don't live in USA, so probably that's the reason, as mine is not built in USA.
@@subazealand9158 you raise a very valid point. Perhaps foreign made Subaru’s are more reliable
@@haroldbeauchamp3770 my 17 forester xt was build in japan and I'm in USA .
AT tires will do the job
I do buy SEL AWD i like the new design. thank u for sharing this video now we know how good the TUCSON AWD perform or reaction for that kind of roads. 👍😊👍
good review. no hybrid for me!
Because of Ryan's off road tests I can't wait to see him run the Santa Cruz and the Maverick through their paces.
We are so eager for those.
I got a great solution. How about stop buying these under-engineered Hyundai-Kia products, complete waste of money. Why not just buy something that’s already proven from Japan, America, European stuff. The only people buying these cars are looking for value, bang for your buck stretch their dollar. Great video though, and honesty.
Will we ever see you do the Toyota Hilux? Many of the US SUV's aren't available here in Europe like the 4Runner. Would love to see how capable the Hilux is, kinda need something competent at offroading, carrying and towing things.
Unfortunately we can’t get the Hilux here.
@@drivingsports Hope you come visit Europe on a "trip" some day then ;)
@@venomtailOG we’re well overdue!
Just some Info to prove your point: we thought we were turning onto a dirt road in my girl's 2023 Tucson. It ended up being super thick mud. We had no intention of off roading. Lucky she has the HTRAC version or we would've gotten stuck.
I have this in a non-hybrid. I love it. I'm tossing a cabin on some very undeveloped property we own. Unless I'm towing the trailer in with a full load over mud or rain, she'll handle everything. Not an offroader but she's a damn sight better for the buck than I expected.
Love the new off-road course!
The trick is FINDING one that does NOT have INSANE dealer MARKUPS!!!!
Can you do Hyundai Palisade Snow test again or off-road. Last time you vehicle shut down again and again. Don’t understand if that’s capable enough to take down those tracks.
Thanks for the video. Glad I went with the SEL. Not ready for a hybrid and clearly the performance lags.
Already bought the 22 Tucson SEL ICE/Non-EV in also Intense Blue and only FWD. If I could go back, I'd got the hybrid AWD due to more combined power, AWD, low end Turbo torque due to the 1.6T portion, and increased MPG. Besides that, I'm getting between 30-42MPG daily due to taking back roads with very little traffic and about 3-4 stops.
I bought the 2022 Santa Cruz with the 2.5 turbo. Same drive system with more available power. Thank you for your review on the system, it was very informative. As I have just bought the truck, Winter is coming up in “wonderful” Ohio, so I’ll be able to try it out soon, unfortunately.!!!!
I want the Hybrid for the savings in fuel and environmental impact. i want to understand the drive system better, it may be the set up that makes the difference. I really like the warrantee on this car. what I would like to know is the availability of parts for it, when it needs repairs. would I be stuck going to Hyundai or would there probably be knock offs. I currently drive a jeep liberty and I rarely get stuck for more then a few, it always get me out. TY for the review.
Hey Ryan I have this exact suv. I just ordered a Truxxx 2" lift kit. I will be adding 17" wheels with 245/70R17 AT tires. Do you think that will make your challenge course look like a breeze? 🤔
Soil have a kia hybrid and sometimes it stutters just pulling away from a stop sign. I think the software is trying to figure out if it wants to use the hybrid system, the gas motor or both. It's not often just enough to be annoying
Don't, I mean, DON'T try the AWD system on ECON mode. Since, this is not a crossover(!) but a hardcore off-roader (if you didn't know), some fanatics might get offended with the poor performance of the AWD system.
For off roading or trail driving, I would get that. However; for daily driving, I would get the Hybrid version.
I do like this design better than the Santa Fe
I'm pretty impressed with how you present your reviews. I've watched a few reviews over last few weeks. And your very informative. Nice job...
I got the Hyundai Tucson Sel 2022 and I love it and I love watching the video let's me know that I made a great purchase
Maybe the bigger engine had to do with it? 2.5L vs 1.6 turbo....turbo isn't great for off-roading in my experience.
Your testing is somewhat odd. In my opinion most people would go up a hill and stay on the gas to keep momentum, not stop and go. When I go up steep angles in my 2022 from grass to asphalt I don’t feel or hear any wheel slip.
I wonder why Hyundai US is stiffing the US market and does not give you proper “terrain” modes as we get in Canada?! Great video, as always.
They told me it’s a legal restriction. They are working to resolve it.
@@drivingsports wow that's crazzy.. I wonder why a legal issue?
At the beginning of the video he says his foot is to the floor but the vehicle's not going anywhere and that's not acceptable, yet he bought a Subaru crosstrek.
I Would prefer the Hybrid I think u Did not realize how much more torque The Hybrid has so u should drive more cautiously
I have a 2022 tucson elite with the 1.6 turbo and I would never treat such a beautiful vehicle like this. If wanted to go 4wd i would buy an old toyota land cruiser and destroy that
Upvote so Hyundai fixes this stuff in their software. A somewhat offroad capable Tucson Hybrid makes for a ridiculously fuel efficient trail vehicle (with a little lift and the right tires) and it's a waste to not have it perform as well as possible.
All the drive modes in regular Hyundais and Kias are superfluous at best, just to make people who know almost nothing about cars feel better about the vehicle they purchased.
In real you would avoid trying to get thru where you were testing. I'd go around and make it another way.
Imagine charging $37,500 for a car with a 187 horsepower 4-cylinder...
Well said! This is why manufacturers love selling SUVs with their higher markup. Also so many bells and whistles going into even base models these days (safety tech, infotainment, etc). These have to be paid for by the consumer. I personally like less tech on my car, lower price and higher reliability.
@@James-il3tq Same! I like simple, tried and true products. As much as a new vehicle might be more refined and "better", it really pains me that some things have gone so far forward technologically that they've actually gone backwards in their usability. It makes me want to drive nothing but older vehicles, despite their lack of modern crash structures.
All compact suvs then to go for close 40k in top trims. Nothing new here
What better Crossover you recommend for less or equal to 37k
I have the GDI version with all terrain tires and it’s a awesome off-road suv
Yea I think even though you lose on fuel I would stay away from the hybrid
My European plug in hybrid has SNOW - MUD - SAND in 4WD mode.
Did you have the traction control off in the first video was the question not snow mode.
You should revisit the rav4 regular hybrid To see how it compares to Hyundai’s hybrid
its not a 4 wheel drive, its a normal 2 wheel, no differential brake in the rear?