Video 143 Restoration of Lancaster NX611 Year 5. First engine test of 2022.
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- Опубликовано: 15 апр 2022
- Lincolnshire Aviation Heritage Centre, John and Les start to rivet the skins of the rear turret area, first engine test 2022.
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What better way to start a Saturday morning than to watch Neville's video whilst having a brew, thank you Neville. That rear gunner must have been such a very lonely position .I knew three rear gunners one told me he watched Berlin burning as they flew away from the Big City, they were very brave men. Ordinary men doing extraordinary things
They were brave indeed. I used to have a girlfriend who’s dad was a Lanc tailgunner, he would not go on the top deck of a bus. He also wouldn’t talk about it.
@@patriottothecore6215 All those people had to find ways of controlling their demons. Huge respect for all of them.
Hi William, I don't thing any body will argue with your assessment of a rear gunner
@@patriottothecore6215 Nothing but absolute respect for these men and women,my father in-law took part in the Salerno landings,he also flat out refused to talk about what took place there, what ever he saw he took to the grave.Five of his brothers also served in the R N and army during WW2 , couldn't really coax anything out of them either but truly was a pleasure to know them.Regards.
My uncle Fred was one of those rear gunners. Luckily he survived the war.
I am mostly a railway guy but I love old aircraft too and I have to say that the workshops for restoring vintage aircraft are a lot cleaner than the shops for restoring locomotives. By the way, the Lanc in the Hamilton Warbird Museum flies over my house every weekend in the summer. Those Merlins make some sweet music!
Thanks for keeping history alive and flying. The Lancs are awesome in every respect.
one merlin in a spitfire may be thesound of victory..4 merlins in a lanc is the sound of " im goning to flaten you house..town..your way of life...oh and i can skip a 5 ton bomb and take out a damb" my hats of to the kids who flew these beutiful aircraft
As a school boy during WW2 we kids would watch the `giant` Lancaster bombers fly overhead in awe, all these years later I am still impressed. Thank you for what you are doing to preserve these aircraft.
Minute 9.16 on video , nice to see both together again. 611 used to engine run next to the Mosquito when it was just a nose section at Blackpool airport.
What an amazing Job, well done guys, brilliant can't wait to see it in the air in the future.
Hearing those windy drills and the tapping brought me back to BAC Strand Road 1978, the Tinsmiths shop aka Madhouse. Add the smell of coolant drifting over from the NC machines and the memory is complete.
Seeing the Lanc (dad was a Sgt Pilot with PFF) in the rain makes it even more evocative, thinking of those brave young men taking off into winter skies.
Yeah, did the same for me. McDonnell Douglas in Toronto, 1979-1983, worked on a little over 100 DC-9s and about a dozen DC-10s. Mostly tail sections and wing surfaces.
Hi Back2TheBike, well don to your Dad, brave young men indeed.
Great to hear the Merlins roar!!!! Even some spectators.
Cheers David.
A thing of beauty! Thank you for all the people that put their time, effort and expertise into such a project. Thank you for sharing!
I was a mechanic for about 10 years in my youth. I've kept an interest, especially in WW2 aircraft. I'd always wondered why the Merlin had such a sweet, unique note, then I read that it was mostly from the cam profiles chosen, which apparently had a fair bit of valve overlap (the same source said the Griffon's was less aggressive). It makes more sense to me than the theories I was concocting in my head.
Thanks for update Neville. Great. Wonderful to hear those merlin engines . Gives me goosebumps every time. What a fantastic job the guys are doing there. Look forward to your next update. Best wishes.
Cheers Andy
I've just finished making my 2nd airfix model and what a joy to see a real one working. Fantastic.
Once again Neville thankyou for your latest video,without you we would be missing so much.Just wish we lived a little nearer.Take care mate.
Cheers Mike.
Mr. Wheeldon thank you for your dedication following this restoration! Kudos also to the staff of the Lincolnshire Aviation Heritage Centre how they have explained their work which has also been exceptional! Such has been a treasure load of information for future generations to learn from. Hope glitch with the left outboard engine is a minor fix. Best wishes to them & all..
Hi Nescon, the electronics engineer Spen was at hand, his comments "There was a minor electrical problem with the starter circuits, which I fixed later that day."
@@nevillewheeldon1693 I wondered why they didn't fire up the port outer , there was a problem .
A definition of a labour of love. Awesome to see a real life Lancaster with engines running. Kudos to all involved.
This rear fuselage looks so beautiful that I am thinking about buying one and living in it.
Someone turned a VC10 engine nacelle into a caravan.. this might be a new project
Cheers Namer
The aircraft referred to @ 05:10, KB976, is actually in Florida (in storage) and will be restored to airworthy condition in the next few months. Its on 'Kermit Weeks' YT Channel.
This section was damaged in a storm at Strathallan when the hangar roof collapsed onto the aircraft and the then owner used a section from KB994 and restored THAT for KB976. The damaged section seems to have ended up here.
Just amazing how everyone involved in the Lancaster restoration industry mucks in and helps each other out.
It was damaged in the hanger collapse at Woodford
Hi 1chish, yes that was a good video last week from Kermit.
@@markbailey3508 I stand corrected and thank you. I thought it was a collapse at the Strathallan collection but of course Charles Church had, after purchasing it in 1986, moved it to Woodford in '87.
I saw that lanc many years ago, great to see it been redone to fly again, my dad's family lives in Boston Lincs, keep up the great work, may she fly the skies of Lincolnshire again.
Cheers ickis Dogg.
They are in good Nick those engines, only a small puff of smoke and they were off
So good to see history being retained and revived
What an amazing aircraft it is 😍😍😍👍👍
Soooo many rivets!
Thanks again Neville. 👍
Cheers Michael.
Excellent Nev, those engines started sweetly credit to the engineering team. Shame on the outer one it tried..
Hi Allan , coped and pasted this form Devomer2 comments.
Spen Crowson
5 days ago
There was a minor electrical problem with the starter circuits, which I fixed later that day.
Engineers have to be weather proof! Love it!!
Cheers Peter.
Lovely to see this work happening. Just want to remind British folks that Victory Aircraft in Canada built both Lancs & Mosquitos. Newfoundland was a massive ferry base for aircraft headed to Britain.
It was great to see both these running last November for fireworks night. Looking forward to seeing them both this year too.
A BEAUTY.
Thanks for the video Nev. Glad to hear JJ's Merlins again!!
Cheers Rich
Excellent update Nev!
Cheers Peter
Beautiful run of the engines 👌👏👏
Cheers Charles.
Thank you Neville, excellent update as always.
Cheers Kevin
Thanks for the update Neville.
Cheers Michael.
Loved this. Visited a few years back.
Cheers Peter.
Fantastic work this guys are doing👍
Cheers E-RJ
Thank you so much for your great Videos.Greetings from germany
Great update Neville, Thank you. The fuselage section really coming together now. well done guys.
Cheers John.
Thanks Neville, things are moving on! Great work, and much appreciated!
Cheers Paul.
Fantastic. Great job.
Great video - Thanks Neville
Cheers Paul.
Really Really wonderful. Love the sheetmetal you guys are doing...first class cleco land!
Cheers David.
@@nevillewheeldon1693 By the way... the engines sounded magnificent.
Excellent Neville - Happy Easter
Cheers Charles and thank you.
my father, Norman Shatford was based here during the war, working all hours on Lancs and receiving 2 Mentions in Dispatches
We re-visited to see Just Jane start up and were invited to clamber through to the cockpit ...in the rain :)
Hi David, well done to your Dad.
@@nevillewheeldon1693 thank you kind sir :)
Another great video update bro, I see in the comments Spen explained the reason why #4 engine did not start. Safe travels
Cheers Ken.
Bottom female half of hole punch tool has two flats for an open ended spanner to react against when turning top male half with Allen key. Prevents distortion and stressing of former!!
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Thanks for that comment very interesting Richard.
thanks for the update
Cheers bikenav bm12
Many thanks Neville for another update, hoping to get up to film the Lancaster and Mosquito taxi runs on a day when both happen.
Hi Ian, check out May 2nd on the web site.
@@nevillewheeldon1693 thanks cannot make May 2nd hope to visit on Saturday 30th April
Thanks Neville . I felt sorry for Tony , the poor old Mossie was getting drenched . I see from the comments that there was a minor snag with the port outer . So was it run up later in the day ? And will the tips be going on or is there still a problem with lens's ? Thankyou Neville ,
Hi John coped and pasted this form Devomer2 comments.
Spen Crowson
5 days ago
There was a minor electrical problem with the starter circuits, which I fixed later that day.
At long last .looking good nev👍
Cheers dale.
Very good to see her running again, and indeed a small issue with #4 starter. It turned very short. Was the issue an overload on the current?
Hi Jan not sure on the over load, Spen the electronics engineer at East Kirkby put a comment in, "There was a minor electrical problem with the starter circuits, which I fixed later that day."
Happy Easter Neville 🤗 Lorna
Hi Lorna we had a good one hope you did too. Thank you.
Such grand and powerful machines they are. It's amazing how they could crank these airplanes out of the factories, in such numbers, considering how the Germans were bombing. I'm a structures guy and I would love to work on one of these. My career was working on Boeing KC-135's. I guess once you get old airplanes and metal in your blood, it never leaves you. Good Job!
Thanks Alan, I never worked in the aircraft industry so it's relatively new to me, I've been coming to East Kirkby about 7 years thoroughly enjoying it .
I have enjoyed this sooo much thank you. Unfortunately I live too far away to become involved but I think we can help by raising some funds for this fantastic project via Garlieston's 5th Military Weekend. Its a small event we run annually here in bonnie Galloway, Scotland. 🏴 We help raise funds for military charities and worthwhile causes. I'll be in touch. Keep up the good work. Steve.
Cheers Steve.
Thanks, Nev.
Cheers Malcolm.
Thanks Neville. Was there a problem with that last engine ? Thanks for the update, what a grand job the team are doing. :-)
There was a minor electrical problem with the starter circuits, which I fixed later that day.
@@SpenCrowson Thank you Spen. Good to hear it was a "minor" problem. :-)
Hi Devomer2, I see Spen gave you the answer.
good job
Cheers Darren
Perhaps next time, a demonstration as to how that front turret works.
Hi Outlawflyer78, I don't thing we will get to the front turret for 3years as it will be the last to be restored.
What is wrong with the Port outboard engine...looks like it was attempted to start but would not kick over. Thanks for the video, the sound of these aircraft is so unique it is a joy to be able to hear them running.
Hi Alan coped and pasted this form Devomer2 comments.
Spen Crowson
5 days ago
There was a minor electrical problem with the starter circuits, which I fixed later that day.
Thanks neville, great update. Out of curiosity, does running the engines up for such a short period of time not damage them? My thoughts were maybe to let them get up to a good temp? Just a question I'm no expert! 👍
We make sure to exercise them as much as possible to ensure they don’t deteriorate. This means the engines are taken up to moderate power on every taxy run and the props are exercised to prevent moisture building up and causing corrosion. The run filmed was the initial engine run of the year which is only short, allowing coolant and oil levels to be checked (along with identifying and leaks) before a higher power run is carried out later in the day.
@@BradleyWinder96 are you the flight engineer on NX611? I seem to recognise your pfp
@@inkysquid4 occasionally, there’s a few of us who take turns.
@@BradleyWinder96 nice, I think you were on the taxi run I was on and maybe the bonfire night (?) although I can't remember great, I just remember having a great conversation with the ex nimrod pilot (whose name I won't type for privacy) and the safety guy whose name I can't remember. You guys at LAHC set a brilliant example to all of your visitors, especially teens like me, and I hope you all have a great Christmas.
@@inkysquid4 I was on the bonfire runs this year for sure. Glad you enjoyed your visits 🙂
The original Lancaster never had a “ Co-pilot “ . Just a very busy Pilot and Flight Engineer .
When the 2 lancs flew at Southport I cried my eyes out it was one of the most beautiful sights and sounds I've ever seen 10 merlins over Southport for the first time in 52 years with the spit and hurricane on their flanks I can't wait for the day she soars there's another mosquito and a hawker typhoon with an airworthy sabre engine so this next 10 or so years are going to be truly exciting in the world of aviation the last mosquito I remember seeing was out of hawarden rr299
Fingers crossed Steven.
@@nevillewheeldon1693 I'm excited to see the start up of that sabre for the 1st time in over 7 decades
I was at southport that day with my dad who was in bomber command , very emotional for him , tears in his eyes but I was glad I took him
What's the next most airworthy Lancaster? I guess it's the same parts that would be most worn and broken on all Lancasters - so apart from constraints on time and funds would it be possible to make two of each item you are repairing for a lot less trouble than making two of the same part on two completely separate occasions? Once a craftman has learned how to do something once, he can use the same jigs and tools plus immediate experience to make two or three more in no time?
I have to wonder what happened to FM108, the Lancaster that was on the Toronto waterfront and then the Toronto Aviation Museum.
Sorry unable to help on this one Sabre
After ALL of this ; They built 7,377 of these ; and won the war!
It's truly amazing when you think about it.
Why does it bear the crest of the City of Sheffield? I once read about the reason, but have since forgotten.
I'm not sure Chris I will check up on this.
There is more than one Lancaster being restored here, how many are mentioned in this video?
Hi Guys , does anyone have a radial engined Lancaster in preservation ? just wondered . You are doing a great job , it will be wonderful to have 3 flying again .
I don't think one exists...unless anyone knows better
Unlikely as relatively few Lancaster Mk IIs were produced as they were no better than the Wellingtons. Only a few remained as 'test-beds' by 1950. More interestingly historically would be the preservation of a Halifax Mk III that saw a performance improvement with the radial engine. Significantly, it was the Rolls Royce Merlin that made the Lancaster, Spitfire, Hurricane and, ultimately, the P51 Mustang with its Packard V-1650 Merlin that made these aircraft effective in WWII.
Sorry Fred unable to help.
I guess I'm confused, is Just Jane a fully airworthy Lanc, while what they're working on in the hangar is a totally different Lanc?
One Lancaster at East Kirkby, it is gradually being restored to fly but can taxi .
That Mossie shouldn’t be out in the rain, it’s wooden!! Yes I know they got wet in WW2, they were more disposable then!
Is the Mosquito air worthy?
Sorry no William.
Please excuse the rookie questions.
1. Is that a WW2 era starting pack? A series of lead-acid batteries, or is it disguising something more modern, like a high CCA L-ion pack?
2. Once the first engine has fired and is idling smoothly, can the rest be started using the on-board batteries, now being charged by engine 1 and so on?
3. To even out the hours on each motor, are different starting sequences - say 1,4,3,2 - used over time?
4. Are the bomb doors left open to help emergency egress, if there's a problem requiring crew evacuation?
5. This is a priceless aircraft - are the team incorporating upgraded fire retardation systems to prevent total loss (like the Kee Bird B29)?
6. When completed, will Just Jane fly 'better' than a Lancaster in service, due to it not carrying a bomb load or .303 ammunition?
Sorry - so many questions - just hope to learn something more about this terrific aircraft!
Its just "Blokes" mate doing a job , its 5 years away from being finished....no one is jumping out of bomb doors LOL They are just awesome people giving up their time, wonderful.
1- Probably lead-acids- the price of Li-Ion with that much capacity would be prohibitive i think.
2- I believe that only the first engine started uses power from the Trolley Acc.
3- Probably not. Only a marginal difference.
4- I don't think there's access through the bomb bay. Doors may be left open to reveal any fluid leaks. In service once the engines were running there was adequate power to raise the bomb doors.
5- Note a fire tender is in position to starboard. With a smaller aircraft an engine fire could be reached with hand-helds. Kee Bird was horrible- i could barely watch it.
6- A/C will be easier to handle as it will be on a lower fuel load in peacetime, also as you mention zero bomb load and no ammo belts saves weight. Maximum permitted ASI (airspeed) and engine RPM will be sensibly restricted a shade below wartime limits. It's still quite a physical effort to fly a display circuit in a 4 engine WW2 bomber as the a/c is constantly turning. Pilots leaving Sally B at Duxford after a display appear rather hot and tired!
There are no stupid questions in there.
Nothing wrong in asking questions. Just go back and view Neville`s previous videos. They answer your questions better than a few word replies
@@thephilpott2194 Thanks, appreciate you taking time to respond. Cheers
Hi Garry, 1 Series of lead -acid batteries.
2 No 3 engine is first to start it as the dynamo for charging the battery, in this moment in time it is not wired up, so the batteries are not being charged .
3 No 3 starts first as it should have the dynamo to charge the batteries then -4- 2- 1.
4. Not sure.
idea
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Cheers mate.
Thanks Neville me ole china
Cheers David.
Did you watch the video I posted on video 141. It was about kb976 which is packed away in containers. You've probably seen it already.
I didn't see your comment so also posted the Kermit Weeks links to his two videos about KB976.
Hi Graham, yes thank you . I do subscribe to channel
Three out of four?
Four out four one hour later HH.
Hi Neville, I'm new to your channel. The Lanc on engine test is very nearly complete whereas the rear fuselage and trailing edge being worked on are a a lot earlier stage. Is this a mixture of historic clips or is there more than one aircraft being worked on? Thanks
The Lancaster NX611 the one on the engine test will be restored to airworthy condition its on year 5 of a 10 year plan. The rear Fuselage and the wings in the construction bay when restored (NOT AIRWORTHY) will be fitted to the Lancaster NX611 so they can continue giving taxi rides earning revenue wile they restore the wings and rear fuselage to air worth condition.
Did she ever see the air War over Europe or did she miss all that mess?
No Steven arrived to late in 1945.
@@nevillewheeldon1693 not entirely bad as she won't have sustained battle damage
@@steventhornton4716 not damaged in Europe but it’s rumoured that the aircraft did take small arms fire damage over Vietnam with the French Navy in the early 60s.
@@BradleyWinder96 I never knew lancs saw Vietnam that is interesting