Answering the Question “Can I Wait For My #1 Job”. (Air Force)

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  • Опубликовано: 17 ноя 2024

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  • @ChrisHavok
    @ChrisHavok 3 года назад +43

    It’s not the recruiter’s fault, but the recruiting system itself is flawed. Many are pursuing, or already have STEM degrees, that want to work in a certain field for the military and gain experience on the way. I understand your argument about “entitled people,” but they are more inclined to be passionate about their job and out-preform an enlisted who lacks interest in their assigned field. If high demand is the issue, we should go off an apply, screen, and wait basis to ensure the best and most qualified people end up in their respective roles. Now, it’s more of a “right time and place” system that’s based more on luck and availability than qualification or skill. That’s why we have Computer Science graduates working as Weather Officers instead of Space Operations Officers. This fact alone, deters and discourages many *overqualified* candidates from joining, who would otherwise make a great addition to the force. They’d take the pay cut and serve their country if it meant they could work in their field of choice, but they can’t, instead, they opt for professional careers in the private sector. There’s a simple solution to this problem, and its implementation would result in a far more efficient military.

    • @Cowchickenfish
      @Cowchickenfish 7 месяцев назад

      That’s literally the boat I’m in right now. It seems the army may let me take the ASVAB and other required test multiple times to get the score I need for my one job right after I graduate with a degree in cybersecurity. Unless my recruiter lied to me either way I don’t have to sign the dotted line.

    • @PatriciaDeLucca
      @PatriciaDeLucca 2 месяца назад +1

      Yep. I have a biology degree but I’m not a citizen and I can’t join as an officer. So I’m trying to get some jobs related to my field like medical laboratory, histologist but they are trying to make put maintenance specialist, fuel specialist in my job list… I’ll take the ASVAB soon and see how it goes, in my practice test I already scored more than i needed to … I may join the Army and not the AF due to the jobs list.

  • @devildog1009977
    @devildog1009977 3 года назад +31

    Don't sign until you get your #1 job like he said its his job to get you Recruited never said its his job to get you the job you want. if a Recruiter says no you cant wait go to a different Recruiter

    • @airforcerecruiter3662
      @airforcerecruiter3662  3 года назад +3

      😂😂😂 good luck, if you are not a recruiter... you have no idea how this process works. You should keep your comments to yourself, as you’re clearing not a recruiter. Good luck out there keyboard warrior

    • @devildog1009977
      @devildog1009977 3 года назад +34

      @@airforcerecruiter3662 I'm sorry bud what do you get paid todo? also from what it sounds like that if I decide that I don't wanna join at the last minute it gets you in trouble so how is it anyone's problems but yours. maybe you should do a better job and get people the jobs they want instead of just telling them they cant get it because you just want to them to go to boot camp so you get paid and have an easy job

    • @cw4623
      @cw4623 8 месяцев назад

      @@airforcerecruiter3662 😂🤣 Good luck out there as a sh*zzy recruiter, baby. USAF vet here. Stop lying to people. It's in your interest to NOT have people waiting for their jobs. It's in their interest TO WAIT FOR THEIR JOBS. The recruits hold all the cards/power. Deal with it.

    • @bengaljam4550
      @bengaljam4550 7 месяцев назад +1

      Doubt if the other recruiter will help you. He will call the other recruiter finding out the scoop why you are coming to him. Once he finds out you are interested in only 1 job then he will dismiss you.

  • @queenofshortstv7847
    @queenofshortstv7847 Месяц назад +3

    This video was all over the place. The person who waited for 14 months, if he or she was willing to do any job why did he/she have to wait that long? And how would you be able to guarantee your brother an electrical job if you have no control over what jobs come down the pipeline? Also since it looks bad on you if a person cancels and wants leave the program, wouldn’t it make more sense to at least meet he/she half way in getting the job he/she wants?

  • @ryleyshucks2952
    @ryleyshucks2952 4 года назад +23

    I’m waiting for Dental job cuz I ain’t tryna sign up for job just to get filled in a spot as a body if I’m signing a contract I want the job I’m gonna enjoy and be most useful

    • @airforcerecruiter3662
      @airforcerecruiter3662  3 года назад +2

      7 months later, how did that work out for you? Did you get dental?

    • @salvamatos
      @salvamatos 3 года назад

      @@airforcerecruiter3662 Id like to know as well

    • @SourStrawberrys
      @SourStrawberrys 3 года назад

      @@airforcerecruiter3662 I doubt he did. My recruiter just told me today Dental is one of the jobs they rarely get in. Which was fine for me as I have ZERO interest in Dental or any medical related job.

    • @cw4623
      @cw4623 8 месяцев назад +1

      Keep holding out. You're doing the right thing. Of course this recruiter won't like it cuz he's a child and it's against his best interest. So he'll keep crying about it. 🤣

    • @bengaljam4550
      @bengaljam4550 7 месяцев назад

      @@cw4623 Doubt if he will cry about it. He will move on to other people who are interested. There are a lot of other people who want to join who are open to many career fields.

  • @Jake-be9ji
    @Jake-be9ji 2 месяца назад +6

    Yes you absolutely can. You just need to be strategic about it. Of course the recruiters don’t like to deal with picky recruits. It makes their job more difficult. But tough titties. They are the car salesman and your life is the car. Make sure you get the car you want.

  • @kiarae9545
    @kiarae9545 5 лет назад +15

    I guess that's how people end up joing the army

    • @airforcerecruiter3662
      @airforcerecruiter3662  5 лет назад +3

      Kiara E the Army is much different in many ways. We are two completely different branches in the way we function and operate. Don’t feel down, I’ve had people wait for almost a year. But not for their #1, just for 1 of their top picks.

    • @kiarae9545
      @kiarae9545 5 лет назад +2

      @@airforcerecruiter3662 why did it take so long ?

    • @airforcerecruiter3662
      @airforcerecruiter3662  5 лет назад +2

      Kiara E this person had low ASVAB scores and had a mark down on the physical at MEPs, so they where only qualified for 3 jobs. It took myself and my boss a long time to get our hands on one of the specific jobs.

    • @bengaljam4550
      @bengaljam4550 7 месяцев назад

      There is a reason that normally you will only find 1 AF recruiter to every 8 Army recruiters.

    • @Jake-be9ji
      @Jake-be9ji 2 месяца назад

      Bingo. And their option 19 incentive where I can guarantee my first duty station. Europe for me. People hype up the Air Force and for some good reasons but if you know what you want to do and where you want to do it the army is better at accommodating that. If you are some clueless sponge who will go and do whatever they want of you then the Air Force will love you. Which I understand from their perspective. But business is business. And your literal life is the product.

  • @blueroom1962
    @blueroom1962 Год назад +5

    Lol I declined and 2 weeks later got a call saying I got my number 1 job

    • @NicoleBermz
      @NicoleBermz Год назад

      Wait so how come there’s people that they find out about their job at basic? I’m going active and don’t wanna create a list. I want the #1 job I choose. Know what I mean?

  • @HunterShaw
    @HunterShaw 4 года назад +3

    Thank you sir, I've decided that I will end up doing an Aptitude Contract in Electrical. I believe this will be the best possible result for me.
    Thanks for the information Sgt.

  • @heymoe1179
    @heymoe1179 3 месяца назад +2

    That makes no sense that I am required to commit to the Air Force before I am guarenteed a specific job. Once I sign the dotted line...the AF can decide for me what I will do for the next 4 or 6 years??? I'm surprised anyone signs up for that.

  • @AllAboutNerd
    @AllAboutNerd 4 года назад +9

    Thank you for the information. Been in the DEP program for the past 3 months and can’t wait to just get a job even if it’s an open contract. Definitely appreciate this video.

    • @cw4623
      @cw4623 8 месяцев назад +2

      Open contract = getting screwed. Don't do it.

  • @ritger563
    @ritger563 Год назад +5

    So what I’m hearing is you and most other recruiters are more worried about how you look on paper then making sure someone is happy in the military. Especially considering is a volunteer job.

    • @cw4623
      @cw4623 8 месяцев назад

      Yep! They're desperate to shove as many people unhappily into the AF, so they lie and coerce and tell you you can't wait for jobs when you 100% can. If your recruiter feeds you this BS go to another recruiter. Or report them to their superior. They hate when you do that. 🤣

  • @montysandhu7789
    @montysandhu7789 Год назад +7

    No wonder the military is losing young people 🤡

    • @cw4623
      @cw4623 8 месяцев назад +3

      Exactly!

  • @esd9511
    @esd9511 4 года назад +2

    He took his welding certification to the recruiter so we are hoping that he can get the metal technology job.

  • @bennnjammmin21
    @bennnjammmin21 8 месяцев назад +4

    Lol… so the answer is yes. But most recruiters don’t want you to

  • @GenDominion
    @GenDominion Год назад +3

    It sounds like that i suppose to sign the job that i dont want to do for 4 or 6 years

    • @heymoe1179
      @heymoe1179 3 месяца назад

      Yep...sign up for 4 or 6 and allow the AF to decide what you will do. I'm surprised anyone does that.

  • @nilaolmos7674
    @nilaolmos7674 9 месяцев назад +4

    He’s right everyone you can’t wait for the job you want….Oh wait unless you have a big bro that’s a recruiter 🥸. Quality content. Thanks for informing us on how the Air Force is not looking for privileged people. Definitely doesn’t have any in it right now.

  • @chelseadeia5805
    @chelseadeia5805 4 года назад +3

    I’ve been waiting 6 months and I finally got a job and I leave in December, however the job wasn’t on my list at all and It’s in the mechanical area and I scored in the 40s for that area. My overall score was almost 90. I asked my recruiter if there’s any other jobs because I’m not qualified for this job because it says you need to have prior knowledge and he said that there isn’t any other jobs.

    • @coltonhoppe
      @coltonhoppe 3 года назад +5

      I'm sorry you belived him...

    • @DC.edit347
      @DC.edit347 Год назад +1

      Bro fr u good now tho?

  • @ashleymoore9709
    @ashleymoore9709 4 года назад +3

    Yeah my recruiter told me I can’t wait

    • @cw4623
      @cw4623 8 месяцев назад

      They always say that. Because it's in their interest to lie to you and get as many bodies through as possible. You can wait. And should always wait.

  • @jwickert3
    @jwickert3 Месяц назад +1

    I just think it's weird that the AF does it this way. Even in the Marines you can pick your job if qualified.... Just saying.

  • @zacharymarshall6792
    @zacharymarshall6792 3 года назад +4

    AFMAN 36-2032 Para 2.4.3.2.2: Recruiters will not order or otherwise force applicants to report for active duty or EAD who:
    2.4.3.2.2.1 enlist in the delayed enlistment program (DEP)
    Can you point me to the AFI/AFMAN/AFGM that states a recruit is unable to decline a job that is offered to them while in the delayed enlistment program? Thanks.

    • @airforcerecruiter3662
      @airforcerecruiter3662  3 года назад +3

      Didn’t say you can not decline a job, but why would we work with someone who declined a job they already agreed to? Someone who goes back on their word does not seem to be Air Force material. Now if you got offered a job that you don’t have on your list, that shouldn’t be a problem. BUT, if it’s on your list and you say no to it, I cut people, and most recruiters do.

    • @cw4623
      @cw4623 8 месяцев назад +1

      You're correct. A recruit can ALWAYS refuse. Life happens. If you change your mind or the job doesn't suit you after all, you are more than welcome and able to decline it. You'll piss off the cry-baby recruiters who will say "you aren't AF material" to try and justify their frustration at you exercising your own agency and using your brain. 😂

  • @robertjette2895
    @robertjette2895 5 лет назад +1

    Awesome helpful video! Keep it up Sgt King!

  • @tonykaizen
    @tonykaizen 5 месяцев назад

    Great explanation, sir. Thanks for the video.

  • @danielk1800
    @danielk1800 3 года назад +3

    I'm confused. You said if they offer you job #8 on your list and you say no then you're kicked out but don't you only find out your job when you're already in Basic?

    • @ChrisHavok
      @ChrisHavok 3 года назад +1

      Generally, you are told which jobs are available after you take your ASVAB and have your day at MEPS. At that point, you can either accept or decline the offer. All of this is before BMT

    • @danielk1800
      @danielk1800 3 года назад

      @@ChrisHavok Thanks

    • @NicoleBermz
      @NicoleBermz Год назад +2

      @@ChrisHavokso in active duty you’ll already know what your job is? I thought you wright out a list and just hope for the best. Please explain! Thank you :)

  • @aaronmora8764
    @aaronmora8764 3 года назад +5

    Hey! As an recruiter, do you believe Diagnostic Imaging is career that is on the rise? From the labor statistic, it says there is gunna be a lot more Job opening in that career, do you believe it’s true?

    • @nauticabc
      @nauticabc 3 года назад

      This is a job I would like

    • @NicoleBermz
      @NicoleBermz Год назад

      What’s the required score for it?

  • @KrystalJennings
    @KrystalJennings 14 дней назад

    i need your help asap smh i took my asvab july 2023 my physical august 2024. i dont have any waivers and my recruiter said she doesn't have time to make a list of jobs i qualify for me. what should i do. i'm not sure why this process is taking so long

  • @luisfeliciano2492
    @luisfeliciano2492 5 лет назад +6

    Very informative and good information video !! Greetings from Puerto Rico !!

  • @markq2546
    @markq2546 4 года назад +3

    do you have the option to list less than 10 jobs or is 10 the minimum?

    • @airforcerecruiter3662
      @airforcerecruiter3662  4 года назад +1

      10 is what my unit requires. That can change depending on recruiting location, ive seen people only listing 8.

  • @johnnyhendricks6116
    @johnnyhendricks6116 4 года назад +2

    I got a quick question Sgt. King!
    I took the asvab and received a 95 how does it work with Air traffic control sir? Can you wait for this job on DEP?

    • @airforcerecruiter3662
      @airforcerecruiter3662  4 года назад +1

      johnny hendricks ouch, good question. Congratulations btw. Well the recruiter life tells me to tell you no, but it is commonly needed. I’d talk to your recruiter and see what they say. Currently I’d say no, but that job does come down. It’s not unattainable

    • @johnnyhendricks6116
      @johnnyhendricks6116 4 года назад +1

      @@airforcerecruiter3662 thank you so much! Does that mean it is pretty full at the moment? How often do they need people for ATC if you dont mind... thank you for your time as well!!

    • @airforcerecruiter3662
      @airforcerecruiter3662  4 года назад +1

      @@johnnyhendricks6116 put it on your list, it comes up from time to time. It’s often needed

    • @johnnyhendricks6116
      @johnnyhendricks6116 4 года назад

      @@airforcerecruiter3662 thank you for the information!! Video was really helpful and thanks for the quick answers!! Thank you sir!

    • @coltonhoppe
      @coltonhoppe 3 года назад

      @@johnnyhendricks6116 Hey Johnny did you get to be a ATC and if so how long did you wait and how did you convince you recruiter to let you wait for it? I've done apprenticeship and got a 72 on the asvab, are ATC's still in demand? Also what jobs are super hard to get to fill the rest of my jobs with jobs that I won't get recruited for...?

  • @alejandroli2
    @alejandroli2 4 года назад +3

    Hey I have a question I just took the picat and I qualify for all jobs I’ll barely go to meps. I choose 27 jobs in total 22 of them are 2A jobs do you think I could be leaving in less than 3 months?

    • @airforcerecruiter3662
      @airforcerecruiter3662  4 года назад

      Alejandro isaac sounds like it to me. I’m if the cards fall in your favor just right.

    • @onefiftyeight
      @onefiftyeight 3 года назад +1

      Most of my jobs were 2A and mechanical aptitude area and I waited 3 months in DEP. I leave next year in January

  • @mannymartinez5096
    @mannymartinez5096 4 года назад +2

    I just got in the DEP, but I’m currently finishing my last semester in college. I won’t be able to leave until late December since I graduate December 10th, 2020. But I definitely want to get my bachelors before I join so I will go in as in E3 but will I get dropped?

    • @airforcerecruiter3662
      @airforcerecruiter3662  4 года назад +1

      Manny Martinez get dropped from what? You don’t need a BA for E3, just 45 credits.

    • @mannymartinez5096
      @mannymartinez5096 4 года назад +1

      Air Force Recruiter I know sir but I would like my bachelors degree before I leave. I just wouldn’t want my recruiter to drop me or something for waiting too long since I won’t be eligible until late December

  • @edesse1
    @edesse1 4 года назад +1

    My son is working on going in right now. He is a welder and he wants to be a Metal Tech. Do you know if that job is difficult to get?

    • @airforcerecruiter3662
      @airforcerecruiter3662  4 года назад

      It’s not too bad, though he still needs to be open to other jobs. If he has certifications in welding I would take those to his recruiter and see what they can do.

    • @heymoe1179
      @heymoe1179 3 месяца назад

      Sounds like he'll probably end up being assigned a job the AF needs filled rather than something he is interested in.

  • @michaelberishaj2664
    @michaelberishaj2664 4 года назад +2

    I have a Digital Media certification, I’m 26. Still looking to join and wanted to do some thing with media in the Air Force, does this count for something different and let me get a job in that field?

    • @iEatMunsters
      @iEatMunsters 4 года назад +2

      No lol, I work for ESPN, have a degree in film production and I’m going in the electrical field. It’s better to diversify yourself.

    • @michaelberishaj2664
      @michaelberishaj2664 4 года назад

      Sergio Avalos I get that but I did talk to a recruiter and they said it does help if you want to go in a certain field. But I appreciate the advice.

    • @iEatMunsters
      @iEatMunsters 4 года назад +2

      Trumpedd Gaming it helps when you’re in tech school doing the actual job but recruiters can’t guarantee a job for you, especially in the Air Force. But I mean, if you’re able to then that’s awesome!

    • @michaelberishaj2664
      @michaelberishaj2664 4 года назад +1

      Sergio Avalos yeah I’m open to other jobs so it’s no biggie. Even if I can’t get it right away I’m cool to help the Air Force with certain needs.

    • @SourStrawberrys
      @SourStrawberrys 3 года назад

      @@michaelberishaj2664 That recruiter sounds like they are full of it. The air force other branch doesn't care about that. They will put a person with an master's in engineering in Security Forces if that is where they need you. They don't place people based on their skills (degree or certifications) they mostly go by their scores on the test. And the scores only see if you qualify. The guy in video already mentioned that scoring high on the test in that catagory doesn't raise your chances of getting the job either.

  • @ashleymoore9709
    @ashleymoore9709 4 года назад +1

    I scored a 33 the first time , my recruiter said I qualified for a chaplain assistant which I would love ❤️ he said that it wouldn’t open or hardley does ? Is that true

    • @rwauyo
      @rwauyo 4 года назад

      I asked about the same job but it looks like it’s one you can only get when your in the Air Force ? Maybe the recruiter can elaborate. I also checked with the navy and it’s just about the same thing they said

  • @dilana9531
    @dilana9531 4 года назад +2

    What about security forces my recruiter told me I can’t wait for security forces is this true

    • @airforcerecruiter3662
      @airforcerecruiter3662  4 года назад

      Amazing Dlow Dlow unfortunately this is true, but I would keep your head up, that’s a pretty needed job at this time.

    • @cw4623
      @cw4623 8 месяцев назад

      My man, you will NEVER have to wait for SecFo. They are ALWAYS recruiting for this position. You'd only have to wait a week.

    • @dilana9531
      @dilana9531 8 месяцев назад

      @@cw4623 3 years ago

  • @kristianmccloudmatillano7332
    @kristianmccloudmatillano7332 3 года назад +1

    Is cross training to their #1 a better option for recruits once their in?

  • @caseykreicar
    @caseykreicar 7 месяцев назад +1

    don't listen to this guy for enlistment advice

  • @dariusj.carraway5628
    @dariusj.carraway5628 4 года назад +2

    Thank you for the video. I am a licensed Massage Therapist. Long Term goal is to become a Physical Therapist.
    I see you all have an entry level position called (Physical Medicine 4J0X2). I understand from the video that jobs are not guaranteed. However, do you know if there is any availability for that job. And how likely it is on average for someone to land it?

  • @coltonhoppe
    @coltonhoppe 3 года назад

    If you meet qualifications for a job does having any higher of a asvab give you a better chance?

    • @coltonhoppe
      @coltonhoppe 3 года назад

      Also how long of a wait do you expect for a ATC?

    • @airforcerecruiter3662
      @airforcerecruiter3662  3 года назад

      No on the ASVAB question, and about 6-8 months

    • @coltonhoppe
      @coltonhoppe 3 года назад

      @@airforcerecruiter3662 its just dependant on the recruiter how long he will let you wait on DEP for right? for example I got a 91 on the asvab and a dream of Being an ATC like few of my family members, do you think many recruiters would allow a 17 year old to wait for his job with these circumstances? Or do you think I need to include medical and administrative jobs on the list to make it more likely for this job to come up first? Thanks for you opinion and I wish you the best (:

  • @Eminence1996
    @Eminence1996 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you for this video. It’s very informative. I do have a question though. I’m a civilian Firefighter/EMT- I’m interested in doing Fire protection in the Air Force. Firefighting is my passion, and all I realistically strive to be. If I qualify, would my competency, experience and certifications make me more likely to land this job?

    • @airforcerecruiter3662
      @airforcerecruiter3662  5 лет назад +1

      Mag Rhino this is a “grey” area, what I will say is to go talk to a local recruiter and ask if a “COI” is possible with your experience. A COI letter can be used to make an exception for you, but it is not promised. I hope this helps :)

    • @Eminence1996
      @Eminence1996 5 лет назад +1

      Air Force Recruiter Thank you sir. Seeing him later this week. Look forward to more of your videos!

    • @jerrelncbg6240
      @jerrelncbg6240 4 года назад

      @@Eminence1996 what was the results? My son only wants to be in fire protection and we are trying to increase his chances.

    • @showery1376
      @showery1376 3 года назад

      @@jerrelncbg6240 how'd it go?

    • @jerrelncbg6240
      @jerrelncbg6240 3 года назад

      @@showery1376 he decided not to enlist.

  • @amnelzadiel2010
    @amnelzadiel2010 3 года назад

    What things can disqualified me on meps? Im worried by a couple of things incluiding pectus carinatum and flat feet. No pain no nothing I can do everything but still worried about not making it in. Btw does you have dates where specific tech schools starts? Are mechanical jobs easy to find? Thank u so much!

    • @SourStrawberrys
      @SourStrawberrys 3 года назад

      If you don't have any pain, than don't worry about it. If you have pain than it might be a problem. I have flat feet too. But the doctor just marks whether you have pain or not. If you say you have no pain that they likely don't consider it a problem.

  • @silenttreatment2537
    @silenttreatment2537 4 года назад

    14 months those are rookie numbers been waiting 16 months plus with no end in sight 😅

    • @airforcerecruiter3662
      @airforcerecruiter3662  4 года назад

      Silent treatment 253 oh man :( this COVID thing is making things wild

  • @kiarae9545
    @kiarae9545 5 лет назад +1

    I've only been waiting 2 months, I guess we will see what happens

    • @airforcerecruiter3662
      @airforcerecruiter3662  5 лет назад

      Kiara E it is worth the wait, :) please let me know if you have any questions. You got this!

  • @BluOrangeJuice
    @BluOrangeJuice 3 года назад

    Good stuff.