I love how you can see all kinds of emotios flash across Helen's face in this preformance. The despair, sadness, loneliness, abandonement, betrayal, anger, her plea for mercy, forgivness, peace of mind and her being apologetic for having her doubts. Her desperation for God to be real. It's mesmerizing to watch and listen to, no matter if you're religious or not~
This is a story about how a mother lost her child during the big emigration from Sweden to the USA. The two bearded gentlemen you see in the audience are Björn and Benny from ABBA: who has collabed with Helen Sjöholm through the years. And Helen Sjöholm was 26 years old when she made this performance.
I’ve said this elsewhere, but it is impressive how Bjorn Ulveaus manages to inhabit the pain and horror this character feels, through these lyrics, even though he famously is an atheist himself. It speaks to the empathy and humanism he has chosen instead of religion, that he is able to convey to us so viscerally what this poor woman is going through, without ever having walked in her shoes, neither literally nor spiritually. I’ve come to believe that this is a contributing reason ABBA’s most famous songs are so revered to this day. (He wrote the lyrics the ABBA ladies unforgettably sang). Personally I have never believed, but it will always bring tears to my eyes hearing the despair in this song. It is truly unfathomable what people had to go through back then, back when the great emigration to America happened. And yet life is still difficult. Some find comfort in religion. I find comfort in experiencing I’m not alone, through great, vibrant, heart-wrenching art such as this. To each their own. Peace, and wishes of a happy new year to all sisters and brothers.
It's quite likely he believed as a child, and remember that loss of faith. Sweden nowadays is quite secular, but religion had still a strong hold of the country when he grew up in the mid forties. Add on top of the the book series this musical is built on. I haven't read it myself but I presume Kristina's anguish is quite clearly communicateed in the books to the reader, so Björn had a lot of background material to fall back on. With that said, he strikes me as quite the empathic guy indeed.
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Thanks Maria. Helen Sjöholm is one of Sweden's greatest (the greatest according to me) musical artist and a great actress. Her emotions in all she does is always amazing. This is taken from the musical "Kristina från Duvemåla" which is a Swedish musical written by former ABBA members Björn Ulvaeus (lyrics) and Benny Andersson (music). It is based on a series of four novels by the Swedish author Vilhelm Moberg. It's about a family's poverty-driven migration from Sweden to America in the mid-19th century.
She conveys the emotion of this piece so well. The three different phases of: 1. God, how can You make me go through so many bad things? What should I believe..? 2. Since my God is a loving God then.. You can't be real? Then what? I've lived my life through You... 3. No. You must exist, but I hate You for what You've put me through.
Thank you for reacting to this, Maria. I knew it would be a tough one, but the beauty of the song, and the portrayal that Helen Sjoholm creates is so passionate, and so real that I wanted you to see it. She made me feel what her character, Kristina, was feeling. It made me tear up, and I am not one who cries easily. I was made aware of it by another reactor just a few days ago and my immediate thought was that Maria should see this. Interesting side note is that this music was written by two former members of ABBA.
@@thehoogard Nonono...they do alot of music, Benny is suupercreative ...an Björn and Benny had done a second Musical CHESS with lovely music🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶 Greetings from Sweden 🇸🇪
One does not need faith to feel a deep and profound empathy for such primal desperation as is expressed by the singer. Her stoic attempt to be angry and stand up for herself at the peak-chorus for a few seconds, almost defiant, only to quickly be drawn back into despair and pleading as her strengths fails her. It tears at the heart of a man.
"You must be there" is a song composed by Björn Ulvaeus and Benny Andersson for the musical Kristina from Duvemåla in 1995 and performed by the lead character Kristina Nilsson. The song is the desperate Kristina's prayer to God. For the first time in her life, she doubts the Lord's existence, after she reluctantly moves to America, miscarries and then becomes ill. In the original set, Kristina was played by Helen Sjöholm and this song, just like the entire musical, became Sjöholm's big breakthrough as a singer. The song was the last number to be written for the musical and was completed just a few days before the premiere.[1]
This is from "Kristina från Duvemåla", a musical about a Swedish family emigrating to America in the late 1800s. Written by Björn Ulvaeus and Benny Andersson, the BB from ABBA (it is Björn seen at the beginning, both seen near the text about the "abyss"). Helen Sjöholm ("Schu:holm") depicts Kristina who is in a foreign place, with a foreign language, just lost her husband, just lost another child, and for the first time ever has the thought that God might not exist ... and I believe her doubts...
Though she didn't loose her husband in that he died, she "lost" him because she was told that if she gets pregnant again it would kill her and in that time birth control didn't really exist so she would have to give up intimacy with her husband. Spoiler alert: She does get pregnant again and dies in childbirth/ complications of childbirth
In the novel she had this deep crisis and then accepted everything. To the degree that she invited her husband back to her bad, even though she had been told by a doctor that she wouldn´t survive another pregnancy. She got pregnant , and it killed her. She died peacefully though, in her last moment envisioning the apple tree in the garden of her parent´s home back in Sweden that she had left many years earlier... Her husband Karl-Oscar, who trusted more on his own male capacity than on God, lived on for decades after her passing and finished as pretty well off but very lonely man. As for the writer of the novel, Vilhelm Moberg, he celebrated a huge national triumph from his books and lost his happiness. He was a fighter and an underdog, now he had become a winner, which didn´t become him well. He wandered around for a few years, looking for another book project that he could get equally envolved in, he went to the States and to Mexico, but didn´t find happiness or even companionship anywhere. He was now the admired, the great, and in stead of friends he found fans everywhere. He ended up swimming into a lake back in Sweden, ending his own life that way. Vilhelm Moberg was generally seen as a true macho in Sweden, and he looked like a boxer. Yet he has written perhaps the most wonderful and sensitive portrait of women of any Swedish author...
I don´t believe in god but i can understand the pain of questioning your faith and the feeling of challenging your world view and this song and singer shows that pain. When you hear this song and Helen with her whole face and body displays that emotion its so believable that this is a direct conversation with her god. What a performance, im not ashamed to say that it brought me to tears.
I'm not a believer, but this is my favourite musical song along with "guldet blev till sand" ( the gold became sand) from the same musical. Written by Swedes😊.
The story in the musical (Kristina från Duvemåla) is about people migrating to America in the 1800 when the was poverty and starvation in Sweden. They went there with dreams and promises of a better life that was so far from what they met when ariving. In the 1800 almost one fifth of the population went over there. The two men in beards are Björn and Benny from ABBA. They was among the ones that made the musical
She plays an emigrant from Sweden to USA in the 1800s. She's a deeply religious woman of Lutheran Christianity. Thing is, with Lutheran Christianity, you can achieve being "good". She has and she is questioning God. Btw, these days we are one of the least religious places on Earth. That said, I love this song, one of the best ever.
For more Helena Sjöholm I'd recommend Gabriellas sång/Gabriellas song from the movie så som himmelen/ as it is in heaven, it about a (fictitiuos) famous conductor returning to his small hometown in sweden and starts leading the choir,he writes the song for Helenas character who's being abused by her controlling husband(who doesn't want her to be in the choir)which everyone in the village including the priest(who tells her to stay with her husband anyway) knows. Her singing that song is her breaking free.ruclips.net/video/ZxmgkxRrpZE/видео.htmlsi=ZUnW7HznC1kjVtjC
This story is taken from the time 1850-1915, when there was a lot of immigration to the US from many parts of the world. Not everyone was happy to be there. They wanted to go home again, but couldn't. Hemma - Kristina från Duvemåla, sung by Helen Sjöholm about the pain of being homesick. ruclips.net/video/tYxdCgNrmGI/видео.html Wonder how it is for the immigrants around the world today? Are they homesick to?
Dom 2 but you saw in your first stop, it's Benny and Björn from ( ABBA ) It is the two of them who have written the song that Helen sings and is called Kritina from pigeon painting It's a powerful song❤
You should check out Peter Jöback singing Guldet blev till sand. It's from the same musical and became a big hit on the radio here in sweden when it came out.
Interesting fact: the song is written by Björn Ulvaeus and Benny Andersson (formerly of ABBA) and the lyrics specifically by Björn who is an outspoken atheist (sekular humanist). He seems to hve a deep grasp of the doubt I assume most believers go through at some points in life.
I've seen this live with the original cast at Malmö Musikteater in the 1990's. Helen Sjöholm was such a great choice for this role, despite being a completely unknown newcomer. Most other leading parts were already well known musical & movie actors in Sweden.
Thank you for your reaction! It is very interesting to hear your thoughts from your perspective. If understand it right u are a christian with a faith in god. I am not saying I can speak for the character of Krisitina I believe it important to take in consideration that this music/musical is written by Scandinavian composers. We are quite seculare/nonreligious in Scandinavia. (Not that I know the composers beliefs) But I do believe that it is more common in this part of the world to question the existens of god. Now the character of Kristina is in a deep state of destress. Moved half around the world in the late 1800´dreds. Lost her husband, her latest child, alone without barely any future.. Just thoughts:)
Pronouncing "Sjö-holm", that first syllably, think "shirt", and remove the "rt". The emphasis is on that first syllable, not on "holm". "Sjö" means "lake". "Holm" means an islet, a small island.
It was very interesting to see your reaction to this song. I have seen some others but not one with the origin in their own faith the way you did. I got a new persepctive of it. Myself I lost my faith in christianity at around an age of 13-14 and I can really relate to the lyrics of this song. For me it turned out in that the christian god can't exist and if he exist (how can a god be a men?) I can't have faith in a controling, surpressing and evil god who hates me because of my gender.
Great reaction. How about some more Lara. May I suggest the beautiful Curuso or the just as beautiful Love by Grace. Both songs are in the From Lara With Love concert but I really like the LovevBy Grace song from the Canadian Juno Music Awards show.
I don't think it's fair for you to comapre anything you've experienced with this. This is a woman, a farmer's wife, who had to leave Sweden in the 1800s to escape a famine, being promised land in the "new world". A large number of peopel died on the long boat journey over, and then they found a new life of struggle, with conflicts with the native Americans, and continued death of their friends and family. It was a horrible, cruel life of constant struggle. A life none of us can understand in the modern western world. The one thing that kept her sane was the belief that a God would keep her safe, yet when horrible things repeatedly happened to her and her family, and God seemingly let her children die, she finds herself questioning whether she can believe he was ever real. Clearly, God wasn't actually keeping her safe. But in her desperation, she pleads for him to be real, because otherwise none of what she's lived through makes anyh sense, and it's all in vain. It's utterly heart breaking. Of ocurse, me, as a typical Swedish person, I do not believe there is a God. Sweden hasn't been religious for some time, but this story (which is based on real people!) is very culturally significant in Sweden.
7:46 She really does look and sounds angry and hope less, you can really hear the emotions She puts in her words. Have you done a reaction to "En livstid i krig" by Sabaton? It's also a very powerfull song though in a diffrent genre. It's about being a conscripted solider during the 30 year war. They added subtitles in english aswell. ruclips.net/video/WBs3G1PvyfM/видео.htmlsi=HRVMLPv4G9C-pPSu
Wow this is a good clip of human interactions. This shows that you are a Narcissist ! This is awsome ! I didnt know this until now. Thank you soo much!!
I don't want to be rude and question your God, but that God sounds cruel and not worth worshipping to me. Toying with people is cruel and unwarranted, but killing children with painful deseases is beyond redemption. I could never worship such a God. To quote George Carlin "In any decently run universe this [God] would have been out on his all powerful ass a long time ago".
“ sometimes God is tearing down what has been built for you” yes, because loosing your child is surely in his plans. I guess you’re not a mother or has any kids and if you do, I feel sorry for them.
I love how you can see all kinds of emotios flash across Helen's face in this preformance. The despair, sadness, loneliness, abandonement, betrayal, anger, her plea for mercy, forgivness, peace of mind and her being apologetic for having her doubts. Her desperation for God to be real. It's mesmerizing to watch and listen to, no matter if you're religious or not~
This is a story about how a mother lost her child during the big emigration from Sweden to the USA.
The two bearded gentlemen you see in the audience are Björn and Benny from ABBA: who has collabed with Helen Sjöholm through the years.
And Helen Sjöholm was 26 years old when she made this performance.
The musical is based on the books written by Vilhelm Moberg, famous writer from Sweden. Utvandrarna, Invandrarna.
I’ve said this elsewhere, but it is impressive how Bjorn Ulveaus manages to inhabit the pain and horror this character feels, through these lyrics, even though he famously is an atheist himself. It speaks to the empathy and humanism he has chosen instead of religion, that he is able to convey to us so viscerally what this poor woman is going through, without ever having walked in her shoes, neither literally nor spiritually. I’ve come to believe that this is a contributing reason ABBA’s most famous songs are so revered to this day. (He wrote the lyrics the ABBA ladies unforgettably sang).
Personally I have never believed, but it will always bring tears to my eyes hearing the despair in this song. It is truly unfathomable what people had to go through back then, back when the great emigration to America happened. And yet life is still difficult. Some find comfort in religion. I find comfort in experiencing I’m not alone, through great, vibrant, heart-wrenching art such as this. To each their own. Peace, and wishes of a happy new year to all sisters and brothers.
It's quite likely he believed as a child, and remember that loss of faith. Sweden nowadays is quite secular, but religion had still a strong hold of the country when he grew up in the mid forties. Add on top of the the book series this musical is built on. I haven't read it myself but I presume Kristina's anguish is quite clearly communicateed in the books to the reader, so Björn had a lot of background material to fall back on. With that said, he strikes me as quite the empathic guy indeed.
Thanks Maria. Helen Sjöholm is one of Sweden's greatest (the greatest according to me) musical artist and a great actress. Her emotions in all she does is always amazing. This is taken from the musical "Kristina från Duvemåla" which is a Swedish musical written by former ABBA members Björn Ulvaeus (lyrics) and Benny Andersson (music). It is based on a series of four novels by the Swedish author Vilhelm Moberg. It's about a family's poverty-driven migration from Sweden to America in the mid-19th century.
She conveys the emotion of this piece so well. The three different phases of: 1. God, how can You make me go through so many bad things? What should I believe..? 2. Since my God is a loving God then.. You can't be real? Then what? I've lived my life through You... 3. No. You must exist, but I hate You for what You've put me through.
Thank you for reacting to this, Maria. I knew it would be a tough one, but the beauty of the song, and the portrayal that Helen Sjoholm creates is so passionate, and so real that I wanted you to see it. She made me feel what her character, Kristina, was feeling. It made me tear up, and I am not one who cries easily. I was made aware of it by another reactor just a few days ago and my immediate thought was that Maria should see this. Interesting side note is that this music was written by two former members of ABBA.
No no, they just took a 40 year break. No 'former' about it :)
@@thehoogard
Nonono...they do alot of music, Benny is suupercreative ...an Björn and Benny had done a second Musical CHESS with lovely music🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶 Greetings from Sweden 🇸🇪
You should react to Guldet blev till sand - peter jöback. Its from the same musical as this song ( Kristina från duvemåla )
I concur ❤
I am a staunch non-believer but this performance never fails to make me cry 😢
One does not need faith to feel a deep and profound empathy for such primal desperation as is expressed by the singer. Her stoic attempt to be angry and stand up for herself at the peak-chorus for a few seconds, almost defiant, only to quickly be drawn back into despair and pleading as her strengths fails her.
It tears at the heart of a man.
"You must be there" is a song composed by Björn Ulvaeus and Benny Andersson for the musical Kristina from Duvemåla in 1995 and performed by the lead character Kristina Nilsson. The song is the desperate Kristina's prayer to God. For the first time in her life, she doubts the Lord's existence, after she reluctantly moves to America, miscarries and then becomes ill.
In the original set, Kristina was played by Helen Sjöholm and this song, just like the entire musical, became Sjöholm's big breakthrough as a singer. The song was the last number to be written for the musical and was completed just a few days before the premiere.[1]
This is from "Kristina från Duvemåla", a musical about a Swedish family emigrating to America in the late 1800s. Written by Björn Ulvaeus and Benny Andersson, the BB from ABBA (it is Björn seen at the beginning, both seen near the text about the "abyss"). Helen Sjöholm ("Schu:holm") depicts Kristina who is in a foreign place, with a foreign language, just lost her husband, just lost another child, and for the first time ever has the thought that God might not exist ... and I believe her doubts...
Though she didn't loose her husband in that he died, she "lost" him because she was told that if she gets pregnant again it would kill her and in that time birth control didn't really exist so she would have to give up intimacy with her husband.
Spoiler alert:
She does get pregnant again and dies in childbirth/ complications of childbirth
In the novel she had this deep crisis and then accepted everything. To the degree that she invited her husband back to her bad, even though she had been told by a doctor that she wouldn´t survive another pregnancy. She got pregnant , and it killed her. She died peacefully though, in her last moment envisioning the apple tree in the garden of her parent´s home back in Sweden that she had left many years earlier... Her husband Karl-Oscar, who trusted more on his own male capacity than on God, lived on for decades after her passing and finished as pretty well off but very lonely man.
As for the writer of the novel, Vilhelm Moberg, he celebrated a huge national triumph from his books and lost his happiness. He was a fighter and an underdog, now he had become a winner, which didn´t become him well. He wandered around for a few years, looking for another book project that he could get equally envolved in, he went to the States and to Mexico, but didn´t find happiness or even companionship anywhere. He was now the admired, the great, and in stead of friends he found fans everywhere. He ended up swimming into a lake back in Sweden, ending his own life that way.
Vilhelm Moberg was generally seen as a true macho in Sweden, and he looked like a boxer. Yet he has written perhaps the most wonderful and sensitive portrait of women of any Swedish author...
I don´t believe in god but i can understand the pain of questioning your faith and the feeling of challenging your world view and this song and singer shows that pain. When you hear this song and Helen with her whole face and body displays that emotion its so believable that this is a direct conversation with her god. What a performance, im not ashamed to say that it brought me to tears.
I'm not a believer, but this is my favourite musical song along with "guldet blev till sand" ( the gold became sand) from the same musical. Written by Swedes😊.
Thanks for listening to the song in it’s original language, Swedish 🇸🇪 ❤
The story in the musical (Kristina från Duvemåla) is about people migrating to America in the 1800 when the was poverty and starvation in Sweden. They went there with dreams and promises of a better life that was so far from what they met when ariving. In the 1800 almost one fifth of the population went over there. The two men in beards are Björn and Benny from ABBA. They was among the ones that made the musical
Personally, I don't keep a god close to me but I really appreciate your very respectful reaction to this incredible performance.
also look at the woman behind her, her face says a lot in living into the music
Timeless masterpiece. Thank you for this great video.
She plays an emigrant from Sweden to USA in the 1800s. She's a deeply religious woman of Lutheran Christianity. Thing is, with Lutheran Christianity, you can achieve being "good". She has and she is questioning God.
Btw, these days we are one of the least religious places on Earth.
That said, I love this song, one of the best ever.
For more Helena Sjöholm I'd recommend Gabriellas sång/Gabriellas song from the movie så som himmelen/ as it is in heaven, it about a (fictitiuos) famous conductor returning to his small hometown in sweden and starts leading the choir,he writes the song for Helenas character who's being abused by her controlling husband(who doesn't want her to be in the choir)which everyone in the village including the priest(who tells her to stay with her husband anyway) knows. Her singing that song is her breaking free.ruclips.net/video/ZxmgkxRrpZE/видео.htmlsi=ZUnW7HznC1kjVtjC
This story is taken from the time 1850-1915, when there was a lot of immigration to the US from many parts of the world.
Not everyone was happy to be there. They wanted to go home again, but couldn't.
Hemma - Kristina från Duvemåla, sung by Helen Sjöholm about the pain of being homesick.
ruclips.net/video/tYxdCgNrmGI/видео.html
Wonder how it is for the immigrants around the world today? Are they homesick to?
Dom 2 but you saw in your first stop, it's Benny and Björn from ( ABBA )
It is the two of them who have written the song that Helen sings and is called Kritina from pigeon painting
It's a powerful song❤
The song shows is a perfect example of why atheism is large in Europe and why a lot of people no longer beleave in god.
Just a thought for you... As most Swedes, Helene is an atheist, but also good actress/singer
You should check out Peter Jöback singing Guldet blev till sand. It's from the same musical and became a big hit on the radio here in sweden when it came out.
Interesting fact: the song is written by Björn Ulvaeus and Benny Andersson (formerly of ABBA) and the lyrics specifically by Björn who is an outspoken atheist (sekular humanist). He seems to hve a deep grasp of the doubt I assume most believers go through at some points in life.
I've seen this live with the original cast at Malmö Musikteater in the 1990's. Helen Sjöholm was such a great choice for this role, despite being a completely unknown newcomer. Most other leading parts were already well known musical & movie actors in Sweden.
Helen is a amazing singer! So many songs you should listen to. This song is written by Björn & Benny I think. The 2 B in ABBA 😉🇸🇪
Thank you for your reaction. ❤
Thank you for your reaction! It is very interesting to hear your thoughts from your perspective. If understand it right u are a christian with a faith in god. I am not saying I can speak for the character of Krisitina I believe it important to take in consideration that this music/musical is written by Scandinavian composers. We are quite seculare/nonreligious in Scandinavia. (Not that I know the composers beliefs) But I do believe that it is more common in this part of the world to question the existens of god. Now the character of Kristina is in a deep state of destress. Moved half around the world in the late 1800´dreds. Lost her husband, her latest child, alone without barely any future.. Just thoughts:)
This particular concert was performed infront of Swedish descendants in America. Can't remember the city, sorry. It's from a Swedish tv-production.
I don't know the city either, but it was in Minnesota, where a lot of the Swedish immigrants ended up.
Michigan 🎉
An interesting fact is that Björn Ullveus, who wrote the lyrics is a convinced atheist. Just goes to show that Jesus work through anyone.
Pronouncing "Sjö-holm", that first syllably, think "shirt", and remove the "rt".
The emphasis is on that first syllable, not on "holm".
"Sjö" means "lake".
"Holm" means an islet, a small island.
It was very interesting to see your reaction to this song. I have seen some others but not one with the origin in their own faith the way you did. I got a new persepctive of it.
Myself I lost my faith in christianity at around an age of 13-14 and I can really relate to the lyrics of this song. For me it turned out in that the christian god can't exist and if he exist (how can a god be a men?) I can't have faith in a controling, surpressing and evil god who hates me because of my gender.
Great reaction. How about some more Lara. May I suggest the beautiful Curuso or the just as beautiful Love by Grace. Both songs are in the From Lara With Love concert but I really like the LovevBy Grace song from the Canadian Juno Music Awards show.
I don't think it's fair for you to comapre anything you've experienced with this. This is a woman, a farmer's wife, who had to leave Sweden in the 1800s to escape a famine, being promised land in the "new world".
A large number of peopel died on the long boat journey over, and then they found a new life of struggle, with conflicts with the native Americans, and continued death of their friends and family.
It was a horrible, cruel life of constant struggle. A life none of us can understand in the modern western world.
The one thing that kept her sane was the belief that a God would keep her safe, yet when horrible things repeatedly happened to her and her family, and God seemingly let her children die, she finds herself questioning whether she can believe he was ever real. Clearly, God wasn't actually keeping her safe.
But in her desperation, she pleads for him to be real, because otherwise none of what she's lived through makes anyh sense, and it's all in vain. It's utterly heart breaking.
Of ocurse, me, as a typical Swedish person, I do not believe there is a God. Sweden hasn't been religious for some time, but this story (which is based on real people!) is very culturally significant in Sweden.
7:46 She really does look and sounds angry and hope less, you can really hear the emotions She puts in her words.
Have you done a reaction to "En livstid i krig" by Sabaton?
It's also a very powerfull song though in a diffrent genre. It's about being a conscripted solider during the 30 year war. They added subtitles in english aswell.
ruclips.net/video/WBs3G1PvyfM/видео.htmlsi=HRVMLPv4G9C-pPSu
Wow this is a good clip of human interactions. This shows that you are a Narcissist ! This is awsome ! I didnt know this until now. Thank you soo much!!
Amazing
Not angry, desperate, You shoot above the target here.
I don't want to be rude and question your God, but that God sounds cruel and not worth worshipping to me. Toying with people is cruel and unwarranted, but killing children with painful deseases is beyond redemption. I could never worship such a God. To quote George Carlin "In any decently run universe this [God] would have been out on his all powerful ass a long time ago".
“ sometimes God is tearing down what has been built for you” yes, because loosing your child is surely in his plans. I guess you’re not a mother or has any kids and if you do, I feel sorry for them.
Its hard to believe that people still Belive in god when its been proven christ was a jew and we have big bang. Amazing
ruclips.net/video/61ZIsdrlxnY/видео.htmlsi=A3ErXfeIzU2ZdLU3
Here is her english version so musch better then the sub
Or perhaps it is just the cold hard truth that he is not real...
No offence ment but the problem of evil is a powerful argument against theism.
Stop believing, live free in the true world.
Lol, there is no god, grow up.