Longshanks’ dedication to his wife Eleanor of Castile was always fascinating. His building Eleanor Crosses to stand in her memory was touching. Another interesting period of medieval history is the White Ship disaster that lead to the Anarchy.
The white ship event is so bizarre and strange for just how such a little event can have a huge impact on history in the way English History played out and world history too.
"Another interesting period of medieval history is the White Ship disaster that lead to the Anarchy" More interesting is the end of the Anarchy and the genesis of the Plantagenet bloodline of English royalty in Henry II - husband to Eleanor of Aquitane and father to Richard the Lionheart and the famous King John (who himself was Edward I's grandfather).
My favorite part in Outlaw King is him walking up to the trebuchet and saying “the Garrison just surrendered this morning, but it took 2 months to build this so we’re going to use it.”
I kinda wish how you mentioned how Edward I was an especially loving husband. There's no record of him ever having mistresses or bastards, and was genuinely in love with both of his wives such that when Elanor died he went into a state of utter grief. As she had died in Scotland, Edward I went with the body personally to Westminster Abbey, and along the way he had numerous crosses erected known as Elanor crosses. He only remarried ten years after Elanor died As for Margaret of France and Edward's marriage he fell in love the second she insisted to come with him on his wars like Elanor had. The marriage was so loving that when he died and people approached Margaret of France with offers of marriage because she was still 26 she refused and said "when Edward died, all men died for me." Mind you this was medieval times and she was a princess, this was extremely rare. Nevermind how he laid the groundworks for the influence the House of Commons had in Parliament that would morph into the beast it is now
Braveheart has been my favorite movie since I was 7 years old, I'm 35 now. Knowing its historically incorrect for almost 15 years now, I still believe it's an amazing movie.
It truly is an amazing movie. But Mel Gibson and the scriptwriter never claimed it was historically accurate. They both made it very clear that they used artistic license in order to make the movie as exciting as possible. So I didnt like the way this video was so critical of the makers of Braveheart.
There's a lot of movies out there that are historically awful but damned entertaining. As you can tell form my pic, I'm a Civil War reenactor and I'll tell anybody who asks that it's because I saw too many John Ford cavalry movies as a child. 😁 I'm also a fan of the Heston/Loren 'El Cid'. But I'm well aware that those movies bear no resemblance to historical fact. That's alright. That's not what I'm watching those movies for.
@@kanyebreast6072 A piece of free advice, keep away from history, watch cartoons instead, if you want some excitement in your life, find a girl . Mel Gibson, is known to 3 a supporter of the IRA, as well as a believer in anti semitism . Braveheart is a complete load of nonsense, though, perhaps, quite suitable, for people of your intellect.
And this is why I come to history channels. I don't expect Hollywood to be historically accurate, but these channels get as close to accuracy as possible. Thanks!
I was just reading up on the history behind Braveheart yesterday, out of interest in Longshanks and his son! Couldn’t have been a better time to release this video. Thank you!
Yeah Braveheart is an entertaining film but almost entirely historically inaccurate, offensively so to people interested in history. I’d love a good movie about Longshanks, he’s one of medieval Europe’s greatest warrior kings who had so many heroic qualities, endured some very interesting life experiences and was an all out gentleman with his love life. His life would make a very entertaining movie. He was almost a stereotype of some fictional hero, much more than the villain he’s portrayed as in Braveheart.
Princess Isabelle (sp?) is a fascinating character in real life. Her father was the french king that brought the Templars down and burned them all at the stake because he didn’t want to pay his debts to them. But his daughter was an apple that didn’t fall far from the tree.
You got my history habit itching gotta check on Isabelle now. Greetings from the order of the Jedhi. You may be a Sith but do you have your emblem on the nose of your mighty Yaris? I have a gold order of the Jedhi on the nose of my wee little Yaris and a flying pig attached to the antenna as a tribute to KPIG. You might like KPIG nerds unite. "Keep the bacon shakin". Party on Sith.
"But his daughter was an apple that didn’t fall far from the tree" She only had that opportunity because Edward II was as weak as his father was strong. Had he been even half his father he would have had too much power and cunning for her to ever get the best of him.
@@mnomadvfx If he'd been half the man his father was, she wouldn't have needed to a damned thing. She only rebelled because he was turning the country over to his "favorites".
@@HexxyEEE Wales was very important to the Plantagenet Norman's because it was still ruled by a Welsh elite. Scotland was always different because the elites were Norman's
William didn't have a couple centuries worth of Norman dominion over England working for him. Never underestimate the value of highly entrenched infrastructure. Wales was also never William's ambition which was well sated by the conquest of England - easily argued to be a far larger prize in European eyes at the time. By comparison Wales would have been only a footnote in his history.
That describes a lot of historical films. As a graduate of T.C. Williams High School, I am well versed in the numerous factual errors of "Remember the Titans." They include the school being already integrated when Coach Boone showed up, Coach Yoast having 4 daughters instead of one, and the final game actually being a shut-out with a score of 27-0.
Well I’m happy for you. I watched it in the theater and absolutely loved the movie. Loved it so much I went and studied the history of Scotland’s war with England. I found the incredible difference between the movie and true history too much. I’ve never watched the whole movie again. There are limits to creative license and Braveheart passed that limit without slowing down.
Same, bud; it was a great movie and I wish all the snowflakes would stop bitching about the dates, names, facts, etc 😐 Hollywood movies about wars, battles, historical events, etc, will always take some creative control over the film in order to make it more dramatic 💯
As a number of people have commented Edward was a loyal and loving husband. But the most obvious fact about Edward is his greatness. Among Medieval English monarchs only Edward III rivals him. He spent almost all his reign under canvas on campaign. He was a great military leader and understood the importance of maintaining control over conquered lands by means of bastides and planted towns. He was also a gifted politician. When the conquered Welsh said they would never accept a Prince of Wales who had spoken English, he presented his six month old son. His greatest monument is Caernafon castle. It abandons the rules of castle building (learned from the Crusades) in favour of a single curtain wall, 30 feet thick in places. The towers are octangular and banded to mimic the walls of Constantinople. This was a nod to the Welsh who were still Romanised and therefore thought themselves culturally superior on account of higher standards of personal hygiene, among other things. Edwards great symbol of English domination over the Welsh at Caernafon is now for many Welsh people, a great symbol of the nation. The town itself is the heartland if Welsh nationalism with virtually everyone a first language Welsh speaker.
I believe he also learned from the Welsh the superiority of the Longbow, which was not standard for war in England at the time. The famous English Longbow was originally the Welsh Warbow, as the Welsh were the first peoples of Britain to invent it. The Welsh never get enough credit for their contributions, or recognition for having held out being conquered by invaders for a thousand years or so.
@@Jerepasaurus That’s not true. In Shakespeares Henry V there is a Captain Fluellen who is Welsh. You will have to forgive the spelling. And all historical accounts make clear it was the Welsh archers wot won the battle of Agincourt. What l find really interesting is that the descendants of the English veterans at Caernafon joined on the side of Owain Glyndwr. Small confession: I am English but a lover of Wales. Wonderful, beautiful country
In Scotland we learned about William Wallace and Robert the Bruce at school with many things being left out. You pretty much have to do your own homework to find out about Longshanks and other Royalty throughout the years.
You didn't mention that the beginning of the movie calls him a Pagan so that all the Christians watching the movie will immediately think he's a savage barbarian, and contrast him with the Scots kneeling to pray before battles and Steven thinking he hears the voice of god and such. Given how conservative Catholic Gibson is, I'm a) not surprised he would use that as code for "evil man" but also b) surprised he would demonize a Catholic who literally went on crusade.
History as always is written by the victors. From a Scots point of view longshanks was evil and nothing short of usurper. And to the Scots he was a pagan just as the Scots were probably viewed as being by the English.
Edward gave the Prince of Wales and the Scottish people a chance to pay him homage and keep their lives and lands. However, if he was defied, he was absolutely ruthless until his enemies submitted. He was a lot like Henry II, but not a overtly cruel king like his grandfather, John I. Very much a King of his era. His Uncle (Simon de Montfort) earned his wrath because he had threatened his mother in London. Actually. Edward was a mama's boy.
I mean Henry III was too busy praying to hovern so who else is he gonna look up to aside from his crusader uncle and mother? And, yeah, after having his mother threatened it's no wonder why he went full savage on Montfort and his kids (who correct me if I'm wrong had a hand in Edward's education)
@@schoolssection Cause he was. He starved a vassal's family to death, he was abusive to both of his wives, murdered his nephew Arthur, and was fond of sexually assaulting the daughters of his barons.
I learned a few years ago that I'm apparently descended from Edward I, Robert the Bruce, and William Wallace. When my oldest heard that, at age 5, she became convinced that she was a princess and started wondering why I wasn't making a claim for the throne. "First of all, sweetie, we're Americans." "Okay." "Secondly... our claim died nearly a thousand years ago." "But... we have a claim." "Yes, we do have a claim." "Yay! I'm a princess!"
Just about anyone of English heritage alive today will find them as grandfathers. When I found out I was totally excited. It's really neat, just not all that rare at this point in time.
I recently found out I'm descended from Edward I also, through his daughter Joan of Acre. Never knew anything about my father's side of the family except for a few names so I started my research from there. I couldn't believe what I had found! So many English ancestors, with a lot of them being upper class. Also found a lot of French ancestors, which would make sense I guess. What fascinates me the most is being related to people that have a written history and are well known.
Trebuchet are fascinating weapons, used to be a 10 or so ft one near our high-school band practice field for nearly my whole time there. Not sure if it was built buy a high school or middle school class. 32 now so yeah, quite a while ago.
When I first heard that Braveheart was completly innacurate I couldn't understand why Hollywood seems unable to stick to real events.... Then I remembered that one of my favorite movies of all times is also completly innacurate: Amadeus by Milos Forman. I guess you can forgive all these innacuraties when the rest of the elements are great: script, direction, acting, costume desing, cinematography... Braveheart is a great movie and so is Amadeus
It drives me crazy that movie writers clobber history. Often the true story is far more interesting. Not to mention, many. people rely of these film as facts... No wonder society repeats mistakes repeatedly.
Pretty sure Mel Gibson has it out for England. He has his films to taint English history, sure some of the tyranny was factual but he really made England look like bad guys in his movie and pretty sure it was intentional propaganda.
The part of Queen Isabella & William Wallace in the movie was a substantial one. I guess I should not be surprised that the writers of Braveheart got that wrong too (since as you say she was only an infant then, and most understood the French language).
"and most understood the French language" Norman French =/= French. Norman French was heavily influenced/hybridised with the Germanic language of its founders who were of similar heritage to the Vikings that invaded England numerous times in the centuries prior to the Norman conquest.
@@macjames3289 A film portraying real historical people and events should have a resemblance of accuracy, i agree it is a fantasy film, they should have made it about fictional characters.
@@hetrodoxly1203 I simply do not agree, unless of corse there is a statement at the beginning of suggesting so? That's a genuine question 🙋🏻♂️ So unless stated why can the writer not simply use the characters for his own purposes to tell a story. Our ancestors have been doing this very act forever. On a large scale such as the Bible, or down the local pub.......... Brave Heart is my most excellent example ♥
@@macjames3289 You're entitled to disagree but i stand by my first post, where do you draw the line 'Hitler the good years' what would you have thought of the film if they'd portrayed Wallace as a murdering tyrant.
Braveheart is a great movie, despite it's inaccuracy. It inspired me to learn more about the Scottish War of Independence, which is a very fascinating subject. The Scots did defeat the English at the Battle of Sterling Bridge in 1297, although much differently than in the movie. The actual battle had the Scots on one side of the river, and the English on the other. The Scots waited for the English to advance and cross the single bridge over the river, and when they did the Scots either killed them as they crossed or pushed them into the water, causing them to drown due to the weight of their armor.
Apparently when they were making the Stirling battle scene in the film a Scot raised the question of where was the bridge in the production. When he was told that including the bridge would create problems the Scot replied: "Aye, the English thought the same."
Love him or Hate him, just remember.....you CANNOT Judge a historical figure by today's standards! Things were VERY different back then, it's over 700 yrs ago, ffs! Personally, I admire all 3 men, King Edward, William Wallace & King Robert the Bruce! They all had their good points & bad. As we all do! As for Braveheart, I do love the film, but I know that it has almost NOTHING to do with reality! Great video, loved it, thank u! 🥰
no they were much worse farther back the plantagenets were quite the ruthless bunch but they were Norman's after all they were warrior Kings it was the f****** dark ages 😂
None of the Saxon Kings were numbered. Numbering only started with the Conquest, William I & II, Henry I & II, etc. And enough of Edward's children survived that it's a near mathematical certainty that every Englishman and Englishwoman alive today is his descendant.
An Irish lady I know, said that kilts were brought over from Ireland when the Irish came across the Irish sea and occupied the Scottish Highlands. I asked when _did_ the Irish come to the Highlands? She had to look it up. "Around the 6th century." When _did_ the kilt become fashionable in Scotland? She had to look that up too. "Around the 16th century." "Are you trying to tell me that the Irish brought them across the Irish sea and then waited 1000 years before trotting them out for the very first time?" "OK. No."
Well, if I'm going to watch a movie with Scots in it, they ought to be wearing kilts so we can really get the impression that they're Scots. That's probably the concensus.
It was more of a survival kit for the Highlanders back then as it wrapped round there whole body. But it was modified by an Englishman for Scottish soldiers to wear like the black watch.
As "Braveheart" is primarily fiction, the real Edward was a very different king. The English actually called him Edward Magnus (the Great) after his death. I highly recommend the book "A Great and Terrible King" for anyone interested in Edward I.
From the sounds of it, the movie depiction was made to make a glorious epic, rather than a history lesson. I don't remember if there was a disclaimer to this effect but it just goes to show the truth can be "boring" and might not sell tickets.
There is an 90 minute Kind Edward documentary on "Bio" (RUclips Channel) that was just released it's long, but informative, I'd say worth it overall...
"It is depended on who you believed the good guys to be" - Mesogog It is a reference to my best attempt to deal to this whole "why real good people are portrayed as villains in historical movies while the the real bad guys in the history are portrayed as the good guys in the historical movie" mess that I often see in some movies. Why is this? I know that the world is not black and white and many people did many messed up things for themselves and their loved ones. But the fact that nobody decided to throw away this trope already is beyond me. And by that, I mean stop making the villains as some sort absolute and unreasonable greedy monsters in human fleshes. I know, I know, the Middle Ages is anything but a nice world similar to ours. But hey, everyone can be reasoned with by using something else in that period, mainly money and religion, to secure another period of peace before another war will broke out.
Wow. I knew almost nothing about those times. I love the Braveheart movie so much but I pretty much thought it was all fictional. Sounded like Edward was pretty popular name back then. King Edward sure seemed to be busy King. Very interesting. Thanks 👍
I heard he was the first king to speak what we call, modern day English. It was his current language mixed with Welsh because he wanted to unite the Welsh with his kingdom.
Literally just watched an hour and 30 doc yesterday on People Profiles on Edward. Great watch, this video is great for smashing braveheart, as an historian I can't help but laugh at Gibson on that horse FREEEEEDOM
Longshanks did indeed expel the Jews in 1290, what you failed to mention was why? The Jews ignored warning after warning about "coin clipping", whereby they clip a tiny edge of whatever silver coin that came into their possession before passing it on. This undermined Edwards treasury, they had to go and went willingly rather than cease their clipping activity. There, sorted it for you.
When I saw BH as a 9 year old I loved the shit out of it and still do. Yeah its not accurate worth a damn but most 90’s movies weren’t say except for Saving Private Ryan. Mel is and will always be my favorite actor.
The problem is a lot of people did think it was accurate. It kicked started an independence movement in Scotland. There were quit a few things left out in SPR by the way. When asked " why were there no Brits in the film ? " Spielberg said " there were no Brits at Omaha". A fact he got completely wrong.
@@andym9571 There wasn't really any need to show Brits fighting alongside Americans when the British armies had their own beaches to take on that same very day, there is no historical doubt that Omaha was an American force against the Germans. The Canadians, Americans, and British all had their own respective sectors and Omaha was an American sector. Also Mel Gibson ironically was in one of the most historically accurate pieces called "We Were Soldiers" about a battle in Vietnam. And the fighting actually is realistic and the facts are true as far as I'm concerned of how the battle went.
@@geechyguy3441 There were quite a few Brits who landed at Omaha. Communications mainly but a lot if the landing craft were manned by Royal Navy personnel and Royal Navy ships helped to bombard the area.
@@andym9571I'm not saying there weren't Brits at Omaha, I'm saying it's ok that Spielberg chose not to show them cause the main effort was by Americans on this beach. I wouldn't of expected to see any Americans if this was a movie about Gold or Sword beach, and if it was about Juno beach I'd be fine with only seeing Canadians
Longshanks was the man. I also supported him. The more I read up on the King, the more I admire him. A great King and visionary. A King that cared for his countrymen.
I don’t care that the movie “Braveheart” was historically inaccurate because the Longshanks character as it was presented in the movie is hilarious. If you haven’t heard Patrice O’Neal’s review of “Braveheart” from the “Opie and Anthony Show”, you are TRULY missing out. You will cry laughing at his take on “Longjeans”. I’d link you, but RUclips seems to censor comments that contain links to other RUclips videos, more often than not, for no reason anyone can understand.
Patrick McGoohan's performance may not have been very historical, but it was magnificent. It should have earned him an Oscar nomination, but since his on-screen character threw a gay man out a window, that wasn't going to happen
Was that the movie where he threw someone out a window? I found that difficult to believe, as with most movies based on "real life", a.k.a. the writer's imagination.
Very good video! I've never seen "Braveheart" though because I don't watch movies. It's more interesting to read history or catch videos like this one that compile interesting facts.
O, Flower of Scotland when will we see your like again,. That fought and died for your wee bit hill and glen, And stood against him, proud Edward's army and sent him homeward to think again.
The Romans conquered Briton but couldn't conquer Scotland. Hardly his island eh? You also can't really blame your auntie from scrubbing her gooch with your toothbrush seeing as shite spills from your gob anyway.
@@jmccoomber1659 actually I've done my family genealogy back several thousand years, literally.. My maternal side 3 of my mother's 4 grandparents are descended from the entire Scottish throne , except the Bruce and all the Plantagenet Angevin line. It is foolish to say you're something you're not, so I only say what I know.
@@rubymontano1599 Whenever folks "do" their genealogy, why is it they're always descended from royalty, aristocrats, or famous people? I don't think there's been enough DNA sequenced from the tiny number of authenticated royalty skeletons for anyone to prove they're related to those long-dead monarchs.
@@jmccoomber1659 for many that is true I have several everyday folk too a father and son from Nottingham in the 1300s Thomas Sherwood sr and jr they were woodcutters. I never believed the stories in my family about Charlemagne or the others until I started doing my research. I was on the computer for probably a week straight in total awe i have a few lines I can't even get past the 1800s but some reach way way back it was really cool. The nice thing about famous relatives is historical documentation it made it easier, plus for me it wasn't just one random ancestor but multiple and over dozens of generations. Most my European ancestors came to America btwn 1609 and 1699 and had charters and old money their history was well documented I'm more fascinated by my commoner ancestors lives.
Edward's expulsion of the parasites always made him a hero in my book. It took the brutal orchestrated Civil War under the paid traitor Cromwell, whose first act was to allow the return of said parasites which led to the complete destruction and degradation of the English culture we see today.
Parasites? I dare you to talk with straight words. If you are Nazi, then don't hide it. Let everyone see who you are. Or else you are both despicable and false.
There's a house in Romsey, England, I believe it's called King John's house but it has nothing to do with King John. However troops of Edward I were once stationed there and one drew a cartoon image of Edward I on the wall. It was a profile view and he drew him with a big nose.
Edward was Edward the first because he was the first to rule over the whole of England. The other Edwards were Kings of regions of England, such as East anglia and Sussex. O'level history may not have taught me much, but we sure did learn about our royalty! That said great video as always. Edit for spelling
Edward the Confessor ruled over England. The kingdom of England was a thing since King Aethelstan (grandson of Alfred the Great of Wessex). Two university degrees in history may not have taught me much, I guess...
@@aureliusmacfeidh5331 well I'm happy to concede defeat, clearly I was not taught correctly. Which is not really a problem given that the royals were and still are an absolute bore!
@@aureliusmacfeidh5331 ha, I'm sure your not boring. History isn't boring. Being made to learn about (to paraphrase,) a succession of people whose only claim to success is coming out of a Queen is! As you can tell I don't rate royalty, but I did look up Edward the Confessor and I found it interesting so thanks.🙂
@@janepearce5382 Thank you for your kind words :) By the way, should be interested in a Hollywood-esque tale of knighthood I highly recommend looking up William Marshal!
Excellent video. I love reading historical fiction. Actually they keep the main factors in place. My favorite part of the video was your comment you go dude. 😂
If The Patriot was as historically anachronistic as Braveheart the American militiamen would have been wearing Vietnam era combat fatigues, and wearing Native American war paint!
According to my family genealogy, I am a direct descendant of King Edward I (Longshanks). My first thought was, "oh no, I'm related to the bad guy from Braveheart!!!" hahaha!
My favourite story of Longshanks is when on crusade in Palestine as a young man he was courted by 2 Muslim emissaries, after a period of time he got to know them and let his guard down and agreed to a meeting alone with them …anyways it was a ruse and when alone without guards these Assassins attacked with poisoned daggers but Edward who was a massive man managed to fight back and kill both of them ….he was badly wounded and his devoted wife nursed him back to health…
Edward's mother was Eleanor of Provence, daughter of Raimond Berenger, Count of Provenance, France. Raimond had four daughters, each of which married a King (alas no sons, so the Berenger's lost Provance). A book by Nancy Bazelon Goldstone, Four Queens the Provencal Sisters Who Ruled Europe, was written about them (Penguin Books). Eleanor became the wife of Edward's father, Henry III (one of England's weaker kings) and thus the Queen of England. One of her sisters became the Queen of France, another the Queen of Sicily, and the other the Queen of the Romans (the Holy Roman Empire). When the barons seized and imprisoned her husband, Eleanor fled to Franch where she hocked the crown jewels to raise an army. Eventually, after her son was also captured, she helped to arrange his escape. Edward raised an army and rescued his father. Eleanor returned to England and together she and her boy reeked devastation on the barons. But she did not completely free her husband. Instead, she kept him under guard, and she ruled England while her son Prince Edward, went on a fairly successful crusade. Edward never forgot that the people of London did not like Eleanor, tried to assassinate her as she was trying to flee London before the baronial army arrived. She was rescued by the Mayor of London, who despite his political leanings realized that his citizens murdering the Queen would not go over well anywhere outside the town limits. The Mayor delivered her to the monks who vouched for her safety and gave her refuge. The people of London however, never treated her well, before or after their assassination effort went astray, perhaps because she had brought several of her Berenger kin to England with her and about three hundred of her country men and women. She built her own power base and saw to it that her family and fellow country folk became key members of her husband's court and held high offices during his reign. She also arranged for the marriage of at least three of her cousins to British nobility. All of that was to their pecuniary benefit. As a result of his mother's suffering at their hands, Edward I did not like the people of London and did not treat them well either. Edward was definitely his mother's son. He was quite efficient and could be very mean, (both Berenger traits). Source: Four Queens, specifically the chapters about Eleanor Berenger. In addition to conquering Wales and Scotland and bringing them under the control of the English throne (for a while), Edward I instituted a new set of laws for which he was nicknamed "Edward the Lawgiver", in addition to being known as "Edward Longshanks", Edward "the Father of the Mother of Parliaments" (he summoned the first Model Parliament), "the English Justinian", "the Best Lance in All of the World", and Edward "the Hammer of the Scots" (having defeated William Wallace at the battle of Falkirk in July 1298, and eventually his campaigns resulted in Wallace's capture in 1305 and subsequent execution). Edward I was perhaps more of a Berenger than he was a Plantagenet (which may be why he is considered the greatest of the Plantagenet kings). Edward was tall, healthy, strong and immensely powerful, a born soldier (see British Kings and Queens by Mike Ashley, pp. 588-594). Edward died of dysentery at Burgh-on-Sands near Carlisle in July 1307 (in sight of Scotland) on his way north to bring Robert the Bruce who had raised his banner in Scotland, to battle. While Edward failed to conquer Scotland, his conquest of Wales left its mark on England, although his most lasting legacy was the firm establishment of Parliament (Ibid. p. 594).
What was depicted in Braveheart was pure fantasy, it was based on a Scottish poem written 300 years after the real events by a poet who was extremely Anglophobic
He was the model of a typical English ing but he inherited the typical Plantagenet dichotomy making him a chronicler suitably described, as "Warlike in peace but peaceful in war."
I'd like to see a video on Ruadri Ua Conchabhair (Rory O'Conner), high king of Ireland, during the Cambro-Norman Invasion. He was a friend of the king of England and the whole matter was extremely complicated. It wasn't England invading Ireland, it was an Irish king requesting help to invade Ireland, and a ton of mercenaries, including Welsh and Breton soldiers, led by a knight named Strongbow (who was betrothed to King Diarmait's daughter).
When museums and tourist attractions in Scotland highlighted the historical inaccuracies in Braveheart, the Scottish public demanded that they be removed and be replaced by the more epic version of Braveheart from the movies
I watched your vid with baited breath as my history (DNA) in England started in 1257. This video is helpful in seeing how people from France and Britney (my family of bow makers) married into and traveled to Scotland and later England. Also amazing was to find some of my very English family never went to England at all but directly from Britney to New Orleans a French territory. One side of the family we have found out was Jewish so it stings a bit to imagine how I would save them from being abused if I was around then. Hate is a growth industry and has always made the worst men rich. Alex Jones.
It always makes me chuckle when people take the piss out of the Braveheart movie, where the Scottish hero is an Aussie. The pisstakers didn't spot that the English king is Irish actor Patrick McGoughan
*_"As King, you must find the good in any situation."_* -King Edward I
Longshanks’ dedication to his wife Eleanor of Castile was always fascinating. His building Eleanor Crosses to stand in her memory was touching. Another interesting period of medieval history is the White Ship disaster that lead to the Anarchy.
The white ship event is so bizarre and strange for just how such a little event can have a huge impact on history in the way English History played out and world history too.
"Another interesting period of medieval history is the White Ship disaster that lead to the Anarchy"
More interesting is the end of the Anarchy and the genesis of the Plantagenet bloodline of English royalty in Henry II - husband to Eleanor of Aquitane and father to Richard the Lionheart and the famous King John (who himself was Edward I's grandfather).
@@mnomadvfx exactly what I mean, if that ship never sank we probably wouldn't have a Hundred Years War
I think he was one of the few kings that was loyal to his wife and didn’t take up a mistress. N yeah that disaster is really interesting
My favorite part in Outlaw King is him walking up to the trebuchet and saying “the Garrison just surrendered this morning, but it took 2 months to build this so we’re going to use it.”
well can't disagree with him .... if I waited that much sure I can fire a shot
I kinda wish how you mentioned how Edward I was an especially loving husband. There's no record of him ever having mistresses or bastards, and was genuinely in love with both of his wives such that when Elanor died he went into a state of utter grief. As she had died in Scotland, Edward I went with the body personally to Westminster Abbey, and along the way he had numerous crosses erected known as Elanor crosses. He only remarried ten years after Elanor died
As for Margaret of France and Edward's marriage he fell in love the second she insisted to come with him on his wars like Elanor had. The marriage was so loving that when he died and people approached Margaret of France with offers of marriage because she was still 26 she refused and said "when Edward died, all men died for me." Mind you this was medieval times and she was a princess, this was extremely rare.
Nevermind how he laid the groundworks for the influence the House of Commons had in Parliament that would morph into the beast it is now
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These are very well-done historical videos.
Elanor died at Harby in Nottinghamshire in 1290.
Elanor died in Nottingham, England. And the House of Commons is a shouting gallery that does very little good.
Braveheart has been my favorite movie since I was 7 years old, I'm 35 now. Knowing its historically incorrect for almost 15 years now, I still believe it's an amazing movie.
It truly is an amazing movie. But Mel Gibson and the scriptwriter never claimed it was historically accurate. They both made it very clear that they used artistic license in order to make the movie as exciting as possible. So I didnt like the way this video was so critical of the makers of Braveheart.
Edward I is 6’2. And then there’s William Wallace who is 6’7
There's a lot of movies out there that are historically awful but damned entertaining.
As you can tell form my pic, I'm a Civil War reenactor and I'll tell anybody who asks that it's because I saw too many John Ford cavalry movies as a child. 😁 I'm also a fan of the Heston/Loren 'El Cid'. But I'm well aware that those movies bear no resemblance to historical fact. That's alright. That's not what I'm watching those movies for.
How do you feel about the BBC series Auschwitz? A piece of advice, forget about history, your too easily lead, take up gardening instead.
@@kanyebreast6072 A piece of free advice, keep away from history, watch cartoons instead, if you want some excitement in your life, find a girl . Mel Gibson, is known to 3 a supporter of the IRA, as well as a believer in anti semitism . Braveheart is a complete load of nonsense, though, perhaps, quite suitable, for people of your intellect.
And this is why I come to history channels. I don't expect Hollywood to be historically accurate, but these channels get as close to accuracy as possible. Thanks!
To rely upon Hollywood for history is like depending upon social media/internet for truth.
I was just reading up on the history behind Braveheart yesterday, out of interest in Longshanks and his son! Couldn’t have been a better time to release this video. Thank you!
if you havent seen it already you should watch 'outlaw king' the movie is based on the rise of Robert the bruce
@@MrMetalman419 I’ll add it on the list! Thank you for recommending it to me.
Yeah Braveheart is an entertaining film but almost entirely historically inaccurate, offensively so to people interested in history.
I’d love a good movie about Longshanks, he’s one of medieval Europe’s greatest warrior kings who had so many heroic qualities, endured some very interesting life experiences and was an all out gentleman with his love life. His life would make a very entertaining movie.
He was almost a stereotype of some fictional hero, much more than the villain he’s portrayed as in Braveheart.
Princess Isabelle (sp?) is a fascinating character in real life. Her father was the french king that brought the Templars down and burned them all at the stake because he didn’t want to pay his debts to them. But his daughter was an apple that didn’t fall far from the tree.
You got my history habit itching gotta check on Isabelle now. Greetings from the order of the Jedhi. You may be a Sith but do you have your emblem on the nose of your mighty Yaris? I have a gold order of the Jedhi on the nose of my wee little Yaris and a flying pig attached to the antenna as a tribute to KPIG. You might like KPIG nerds unite. "Keep the bacon shakin". Party on Sith.
"But his daughter was an apple that didn’t fall far from the tree"
She only had that opportunity because Edward II was as weak as his father was strong.
Had he been even half his father he would have had too much power and cunning for her to ever get the best of him.
@@mnomadvfx If he'd been half the man his father was, she wouldn't have needed to a damned thing. She only rebelled because he was turning the country over to his "favorites".
And it isn't as if Sophie Marceau wasn't **stunning** in the film or anything....
@@SafetySpooon exactly!
Yes he was a ruthless expansionist. Succeeded in conquering Wales something that William the Conqueror couldn't even do.
Didnt he get very lucky with all the infighting among the Welsh at the time? Not denying his military prowess
@@HexxyEEE Wales was very important to the Plantagenet Norman's because it was still ruled by a Welsh elite. Scotland was always different because the elites were Norman's
William didn't have a couple centuries worth of Norman dominion over England working for him.
Never underestimate the value of highly entrenched infrastructure.
Wales was also never William's ambition which was well sated by the conquest of England - easily argued to be a far larger prize in European eyes at the time.
By comparison Wales would have been only a footnote in his history.
He also massacred a town!
@@rainstriderstreamflower5645 I think I read about that massacre, it was in the welsh trilogy by sharon kay pennman. Really great books, try them!
Braveheart was such a good movie it doesn’t even bother me how inaccurate it is
That describes a lot of historical films.
As a graduate of T.C. Williams High School, I am well versed in the numerous factual errors of "Remember the Titans." They include the school being already integrated when Coach Boone showed up, Coach Yoast having 4 daughters instead of one, and the final game actually being a shut-out with a score of 27-0.
Obviously you're not English.
Well I’m happy for you. I watched it in the theater and absolutely loved the movie. Loved it so much I went and studied the history of Scotland’s war with England. I found the incredible difference between the movie and true history too much. I’ve never watched the whole movie again. There are limits to creative license and Braveheart passed that limit without slowing down.
People in the UK knew it was bollocks.
Same, bud; it was a great movie and I wish all the snowflakes would stop bitching about the dates, names, facts, etc 😐
Hollywood movies about wars, battles, historical events, etc, will always take some creative control over the film in order to make it more dramatic 💯
As a number of people have commented Edward was a loyal and loving husband. But the most obvious fact about Edward is his greatness. Among Medieval English monarchs only Edward III rivals him. He spent almost all his reign under canvas on campaign. He was a great military leader and understood the importance of maintaining control over conquered lands by means of bastides and planted towns. He was also a gifted politician. When the conquered Welsh said they would never accept a Prince of Wales who had spoken English, he presented his six month old son. His greatest monument is Caernafon castle. It abandons the rules of castle building (learned from the Crusades) in favour of a single curtain wall, 30 feet thick in places. The towers are octangular and banded to mimic the walls of Constantinople. This was a nod to the Welsh who were still Romanised and therefore thought themselves culturally superior on account of higher standards of personal hygiene, among other things. Edwards great symbol of English domination over the Welsh at Caernafon is now for many Welsh people, a great symbol of the nation. The town itself is the heartland if Welsh nationalism with virtually everyone a first language Welsh speaker.
I believe he also learned from the Welsh the superiority of the Longbow, which was not standard for war in England at the time. The famous English Longbow was originally the Welsh Warbow, as the Welsh were the first peoples of Britain to invent it. The Welsh never get enough credit for their contributions, or recognition for having held out being conquered by invaders for a thousand years or so.
@@Jerepasaurus That’s not true. In Shakespeares Henry V there is a Captain Fluellen who is Welsh. You will have to forgive the spelling. And all historical accounts make clear it was the Welsh archers wot won the battle of Agincourt. What l find really interesting is that the descendants of the English veterans at Caernafon joined on the side of Owain Glyndwr. Small confession: I am English but a lover of Wales. Wonderful, beautiful country
Never lose this narrator.
In Scotland we learned about William Wallace and Robert the Bruce at school with many things being left out. You pretty much have to do your own homework to find out about Longshanks and other Royalty throughout the years.
You didn't mention that the beginning of the movie calls him a Pagan so that all the Christians watching the movie will immediately think he's a savage barbarian, and contrast him with the Scots kneeling to pray before battles and Steven thinking he hears the voice of god and such. Given how conservative Catholic Gibson is, I'm a) not surprised he would use that as code for "evil man" but also b) surprised he would demonize a Catholic who literally went on crusade.
yes he was a Christian king and even fought in the Crusades, but I'm sure from the point of view of the Scots he was as "pagan" as they come.
Yes! This always bothered me!
I’d rather be pagan then Catholic anyways.
History as always is written by the victors. From a Scots point of view longshanks was evil and nothing short of usurper. And to the Scots he was a pagan just as the Scots were probably viewed as being by the English.
You can be a Catholic King, fight in the Crusades and still be an evil asshole to the Scots. Just saying…
Edward gave the Prince of Wales and the Scottish people a chance to pay him homage and keep their lives and lands. However, if he was defied, he was absolutely ruthless until his enemies submitted. He was a lot like Henry II, but not a overtly cruel king like his grandfather, John I. Very much a King of his era. His Uncle (Simon de Montfort) earned his wrath because he had threatened his mother in London. Actually. Edward was a mama's boy.
Love this tidbit! Thanks for sharing
I mean Henry III was too busy praying to hovern so who else is he gonna look up to aside from his crusader uncle and mother?
And, yeah, after having his mother threatened it's no wonder why he went full savage on Montfort and his kids (who correct me if I'm wrong had a hand in Edward's education)
Why do call King John "cruel".
@@schoolssection Cause he was. He starved a vassal's family to death, he was abusive to both of his wives, murdered his nephew Arthur, and was fond of sexually assaulting the daughters of his barons.
I learned a few years ago that I'm apparently descended from Edward I, Robert the Bruce, and William Wallace. When my oldest heard that, at age 5, she became convinced that she was a princess and started wondering why I wasn't making a claim for the throne.
"First of all, sweetie, we're Americans."
"Okay."
"Secondly... our claim died nearly a thousand years ago."
"But... we have a claim."
"Yes, we do have a claim."
"Yay! I'm a princess!"
Just about anyone of English heritage alive today will find them as grandfathers. When I found out I was totally excited. It's really neat, just not all that rare at this point in time.
William Wallace didn't have any children!
I recently found out I'm descended from Edward I also, through his daughter Joan of Acre. Never knew anything about my father's side of the family except for a few names so I started my research from there. I couldn't believe what I had found! So many English ancestors, with a lot of them being upper class. Also found a lot of French ancestors, which would make sense I guess. What fascinates me the most is being related to people that have a written history and are well known.
This is so cringe.
I enjoy the art of the time you always show. Love Medieval art, poetry & music.
Trebuchet are fascinating weapons, used to be a 10 or so ft one near our high-school band practice field for nearly my whole time there. Not sure if it was built buy a high school or middle school class. 32 now so yeah, quite a while ago.
Yeah, I saw one in Scotland. You never really get a sense of how big they are until you’re standing next to one. Pretty cool!
There is one in the grounds of Urquhart Castle, next to Loch Ness.
When I first heard that Braveheart was completly innacurate I couldn't understand why Hollywood seems unable to stick to real events.... Then I remembered that one of my favorite movies of all times is also completly innacurate: Amadeus by Milos Forman.
I guess you can forgive all these innacuraties when the rest of the elements are great: script, direction, acting, costume desing, cinematography...
Braveheart is a great movie and so is Amadeus
It drives me crazy that movie writers clobber history. Often the true story is far more interesting. Not to mention, many. people rely of these film as facts... No wonder society repeats mistakes repeatedly.
@@carolynsilvers9999 The movie never claimed itself as historical. You can't expect a drama movie to stick to the historical facts.
They call it ( poetic licence in the film industry )
Pretty sure Mel Gibson has it out for England. He has his films to taint English history, sure some of the tyranny was factual but he really made England look like bad guys in his movie and pretty sure it was intentional propaganda.
Princess Isabella was like 5 or 6 at the time that Braveheart took place.
BTW she was a fascinating person in her own right.
The part of Queen Isabella & William Wallace in the movie was a substantial one. I guess I should not be surprised that the writers of Braveheart got that wrong too (since as you say she was only an infant then, and most understood the French language).
The writers didnt get it wrong. It's a film 📼 🙄
"and most understood the French language"
Norman French =/= French.
Norman French was heavily influenced/hybridised with the Germanic language of its founders who were of similar heritage to the Vikings that invaded England numerous times in the centuries prior to the Norman conquest.
@@macjames3289 A film portraying real historical people and events should have a resemblance of accuracy, i agree it is a fantasy film, they should have made it about fictional characters.
@@hetrodoxly1203 I simply do not agree, unless of corse there is a statement at the beginning of suggesting so? That's a genuine question 🙋🏻♂️
So unless stated why can the writer not simply use the characters for his own purposes to tell a story. Our ancestors have been doing this very act forever. On a large scale such as the Bible, or down the local pub.......... Brave Heart is my most excellent example ♥
@@macjames3289 You're entitled to disagree but i stand by my first post, where do you draw the line 'Hitler the good years' what would you have thought of the film if they'd portrayed Wallace as a murdering tyrant.
His nickname came from the fact that he was 6'1" in an era where the average male was about 5'3".
Edward I was 1.88 (6'2") metres tall, and the average male was 1.73 (5'8") metres tall.
@@Michael_De_Santa-Unofficial meh, 5'8" is still short lol
Blind harry had the wallace at 7foot tall!
@@robertlees7528 yes, and if he were here he'd shoot fireballs out of his arse
@robertlees7528 Yeah, and he shoots lightning bolts from his arse.
Thank you for the history that I never knew I needed.
Ditto, my main dude!
@@alicerivierre exactly, next he's going to tell us about why the football war happend
Braveheart is a great movie, despite it's inaccuracy. It inspired me to learn more about the Scottish War of Independence, which is a very fascinating subject.
The Scots did defeat the English at the Battle of Sterling Bridge in 1297, although much differently than in the movie. The actual battle had the Scots on one side of the river, and the English on the other. The Scots waited for the English to advance and cross the single bridge over the river, and when they did the Scots either killed them as they crossed or pushed them into the water, causing them to drown due to the weight of their armor.
Stirling is spelt like that.
An astounding victory for the Scots.....and that's coming from an Englishman.
Apparently when they were making the Stirling battle scene in the film a Scot raised the question of where was the bridge in the production. When he was told that including the bridge would create problems the Scot replied: "Aye, the English thought the same."
If you think that movie was great, you probably think Abe Lincoln was an actual vampire killer.
Dang StarWars is more historically accurate than BraveHeart
The only thing I liked about Braveheart was the musical score. I would put the CD in my computer and play Quake. The two were a good match.
Braveheart is a great movie very exciting . People confusing entertainment with history seems to be the real problem .
Love him or Hate him, just remember.....you CANNOT Judge a historical figure by today's standards! Things were VERY different back then, it's over 700 yrs ago, ffs! Personally, I admire all 3 men, King Edward, William Wallace & King Robert the Bruce! They all had their good points & bad. As we all do! As for Braveheart, I do love the film, but I know that it has almost NOTHING to do with reality! Great video, loved it, thank u! 🥰
Very well said!!
Tell that to SNP supporters!
no they were much worse farther back the plantagenets were quite the ruthless bunch but they were Norman's after all they were warrior Kings it was the f****** dark ages 😂
Um-you can judge an historical figure. At least by some human standards. Edward I was a ruthless killer. He was a giant dick-yesterday and today.
@@joeyjohnson4826 A Brit friend once remarked to me "the Plantagenets were a bloodthirsty lot". The Normans (Vikings) were not much better.
Braveheart was so wildly inaccurate that is pains me to see that people view it as historical non-fiction.
it's based on the poem by Blind Harry, which relies more on embellished myths and legends about Wallace than historical fact
@@shaunsteele8244 be that as it may, people still view it as true history.
None of the Saxon Kings were numbered. Numbering only started with the Conquest, William I & II, Henry I & II, etc. And enough of Edward's children survived that it's a near mathematical certainty that every Englishman and Englishwoman alive today is his descendant.
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Not to mention Edward the first challenged Wallace to 1 on 1 combat Edward was known as strong warrior and never was unhorsed in Jousting
An Irish lady I know, said that kilts were brought over from Ireland when the Irish came across the Irish sea and occupied the Scottish Highlands. I asked when _did_ the Irish come to the Highlands? She had to look it up. "Around the 6th century." When _did_ the kilt become fashionable in Scotland? She had to look that up too. "Around the 16th century." "Are you trying to tell me that the Irish brought them across the Irish sea and then waited 1000 years before trotting them out for the very first time?" "OK. No."
It was a tourist thing...the different tartans and kilts as we know them. Not Irish
Well, if I'm going to watch a movie with Scots in it, they ought to be wearing kilts so we can really get the impression that they're Scots. That's probably the concensus.
It was more of a survival kit for the Highlanders back then as it wrapped round there whole body. But it was modified by an Englishman for Scottish soldiers to wear like the black watch.
As "Braveheart" is primarily fiction, the real Edward was a very different king. The English actually called him Edward Magnus (the Great) after his death. I highly recommend the book "A Great and Terrible King" for anyone interested in Edward I.
Not to mention in Braveheart the narrator called him "a cruel pagan", a king who went on crusade...a pagan...
@@the98themperoroftheholybri33 exactly. Europe's "most Christian king" a pagan? I don't think so!
From the sounds of it, the movie depiction was made to make a glorious epic, rather than a history lesson. I don't remember if there was a disclaimer to this effect but it just goes to show the truth can be "boring" and might not sell tickets.
There is an 90 minute Kind Edward documentary on "Bio" (RUclips Channel) that was just released it's long, but informative, I'd say worth it overall...
"It is depended on who you believed the good guys to be" - Mesogog
It is a reference to my best attempt to deal to this whole "why real good people are portrayed as villains in historical movies while the the real bad guys in the history are portrayed as the good guys in the historical movie" mess that I often see in some movies. Why is this? I know that the world is not black and white and many people did many messed up things for themselves and their loved ones. But the fact that nobody decided to throw away this trope already is beyond me. And by that, I mean stop making the villains as some sort absolute and unreasonable greedy monsters in human fleshes. I know, I know, the Middle Ages is anything but a nice world similar to ours. But hey, everyone can be reasoned with by using something else in that period, mainly money and religion, to secure another period of peace before another war will broke out.
Why is there a picture of the 16th century reformer and theologian Marin Luther at 3:54 point of the video?
Wow. I knew almost nothing about those times. I love the Braveheart movie so much but I pretty much thought it was all fictional. Sounded like Edward was pretty popular name back then. King Edward sure seemed to be busy King. Very interesting. Thanks 👍
Edward was a popular name til quite recently.
I once read he didn't like being referred to as "Eddy Baby," he would become quite animated whenever it happened.
I heard he was the first king to speak what we call, modern day English. It was his current language mixed with Welsh because he wanted to unite the Welsh with his kingdom.
I would not call the King's speech "modern day English" - Edward was about a century before Chaucer.
What a shock.. American movie maker totally rewrites history. Who'd have believed such a thing could happen...🇬🇧
Very interesting. He's my ancestor and I'm always fascinated in family history. Thank you for sharing.
I e never let facts get in the way of a good story
Another movie villain suggestion for a Weird History vid: Banastre Tarleton who Col. Tavington is based on in The Patriot
Literally just watched an hour and 30 doc yesterday on People Profiles on Edward. Great watch, this video is great for smashing braveheart, as an historian I can't help but laugh at Gibson on that horse FREEEEEDOM
W.H. do you think you can debunk any myths surrounding the Wild West and American Revolutions? Thanks a bunch!
"They may take our lands, but they'll never take our weird history."
Me: 👁️👄👁️ We have lands?
Very interesting history and thanks for sharing.
Fantastic video keep it up your doing amazing job
I Need you to do a video about the history of the Dutch East Indian Trading Company... please please 🙏!
Longshanks did indeed expel the Jews in 1290, what you failed to mention was why? The Jews ignored warning after warning about "coin clipping", whereby they clip a tiny edge of whatever silver coin that came into their possession before passing it on. This undermined Edwards treasury, they had to go and went willingly rather than cease their clipping activity. There, sorted it for you.
Where the prove that they did ??
@@yevgeni10
Do your own Google research bro.
When I saw BH as a 9 year old I loved the shit out of it and still do. Yeah its not accurate worth a damn but most 90’s movies weren’t say except for Saving Private Ryan. Mel is and will always be my favorite actor.
The problem is a lot of people did think it was accurate. It kicked started an independence movement in Scotland. There were quit a few things left out in SPR by the way. When asked " why were there no Brits in the film ? " Spielberg said " there were no Brits at Omaha". A fact he got completely wrong.
@@andym9571 There wasn't really any need to show Brits fighting alongside Americans when the British armies had their own beaches to take on that same very day, there is no historical doubt that Omaha was an American force against the Germans. The Canadians, Americans, and British all had their own respective sectors and Omaha was an American sector.
Also Mel Gibson ironically was in one of the most historically accurate pieces called "We Were Soldiers" about a battle in Vietnam. And the fighting actually is realistic and the facts are true as far as I'm concerned of how the battle went.
@@geechyguy3441 There were quite a few Brits who landed at Omaha. Communications mainly but a lot if the landing craft were manned by Royal Navy personnel and Royal Navy ships helped to bombard the area.
@@andym9571I'm not saying there weren't Brits at Omaha, I'm saying it's ok that Spielberg chose not to show them cause the main effort was by Americans on this beach. I wouldn't of expected to see any Americans if this was a movie about Gold or Sword beach, and if it was about Juno beach I'd be fine with only seeing Canadians
@@geechyguy3441 Thats absolutely fine. I agree. Spielberg didn't know that there were Brits at Omaha though.
I might be alone on this, but in the movie Braveheart, I was cheering for King Edward.
Don't make me fuck you up.
@@gargantuanclaymore6824 And how you gonna do that, big man?
@@kanyebreast6072 You want some too jobbie picker? You'll get swung about like a wet trackie
In real life, he was hard not to follow in circumstances due to his acumen.
Longshanks was the man.
I also supported him.
The more I read up on the King, the more I admire him.
A great King and visionary. A King that cared for his countrymen.
Edward the Elder was NOT king of England. He was king of Wessex. The first King of England would be Edward the Elder's son, Æthelstan.
I am SHOCKED, SHOCKED to hear that Braveheart was historically inaccurate!
My favourite episode of weird history
I don’t care that the movie “Braveheart” was historically inaccurate because the Longshanks character as it was presented in the movie is hilarious.
If you haven’t heard Patrice O’Neal’s review of “Braveheart” from the “Opie and Anthony Show”, you are TRULY missing out. You will cry laughing at his take on “Longjeans”. I’d link you, but RUclips seems to censor comments that contain links to other RUclips videos, more often than not, for no reason anyone can understand.
Here. We’ll try it this way:
ruclips.net/video/OEUp0RtSTSM/видео.html
Perhaps they will only censor this comment.
Who cares if historical inaccurate it's entertaining movie.
I could listen to patrice talk about movies for hours.
"If Jurassic Park was made by Sci-fi channel, it'd be called 'Prehistoric Forest'." -paraphrasing the late, great Patrice O'neal.
could you please give me your assessment on the er. current. SITUATION!!
Patrick McGoohan's performance may not have been very historical, but it was magnificent. It should have earned him an Oscar nomination, but since his on-screen character threw a gay man out a window, that wasn't going to happen
The Welsh should be grateful to Edward for building the wonderful tourist attraction castles for them.
And for rarebit and corgis.
Was that the movie where he threw someone out a window? I found that difficult to believe, as with most movies based on "real life", a.k.a. the writer's imagination.
I mean, he COULD have thrown someone out of a window. We don't know lol
@@shaunsteele8244 You got a point there, I guess it could have happened.
This is my favourite presenter. Good voice acting too.
Very good video! I've never seen "Braveheart" though because I don't watch movies. It's more interesting to read history or catch videos like this one that compile interesting facts.
O, Flower of Scotland when will we see your like again,.
That fought and died for your wee bit hill and glen,
And stood against him, proud Edward's army and sent him homeward to think again.
VERY INFORMATIVE. HE WAS MY 28TH GREAT GRANDFATHER. 👍
He was the late Queen's 19th great grandfather. Crunching numbers at 25 yrs/generation, you haven't been born yet.
I mean if I were Edward, I would want to control my whole island (Britain) too. Can't really blame him
The Romans conquered Briton but couldn't conquer Scotland. Hardly his island eh? You also can't really blame your auntie from scrubbing her gooch with your toothbrush seeing as shite spills from your gob anyway.
S S unfortunate initials or did the parents know something
@@michellepeoplelikeyoumurde8373 fortunate initials if you know who the real bad guys are
2:03 Isn’t that Edward vi? As in Henry viii’s son?
Laughed at your comment about the last episode of GOT. That was hilarious
Excellent! Unbiased depiction of my ancestors, thank you☺
Says everybody who thinks they're English...
@@jmccoomber1659 actually I've done my family genealogy back several thousand years, literally.. My maternal side 3 of my mother's 4 grandparents are descended from the entire Scottish throne , except the Bruce and all the Plantagenet Angevin line. It is foolish to say you're something you're not, so I only say what I know.
@@jmccoomber1659 and as a side note my Hispanic last name is adopted.
@@rubymontano1599 Whenever folks "do" their genealogy, why is it they're always descended from royalty, aristocrats, or famous people? I don't think there's been enough DNA sequenced from the tiny number of authenticated royalty skeletons for anyone to prove they're related to those long-dead monarchs.
@@jmccoomber1659 for many that is true I have several everyday folk too a father and son from Nottingham in the 1300s Thomas Sherwood sr and jr they were woodcutters. I never believed the stories in my family about Charlemagne or the others until I started doing my research. I was on the computer for probably a week straight in total awe i have a few lines I can't even get past the 1800s but some reach way way back it was really cool. The nice thing about famous relatives is historical documentation it made it easier, plus for me it wasn't just one random ancestor but multiple and over dozens of generations. Most my European ancestors came to America btwn 1609 and 1699 and had charters and old money their history was well documented I'm more fascinated by my commoner ancestors lives.
Edward's expulsion of the parasites always made him a hero in my book. It took the brutal orchestrated Civil War under the paid traitor Cromwell, whose first act was to allow the return of said parasites which led to the complete destruction and degradation of the English culture we see today.
Parasites? I dare you to talk with straight words. If you are Nazi, then don't hide it. Let everyone see who you are. Or else you are both despicable and false.
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@@elvenkind6072 "Most Jews do not like to admit it, but our god is Lucifer...and we are his chosen people..." - Harold Wallace Rosenthal.
@@Krawn_ Are you a Nazi then? Or simply an antisemite?
There's a house in Romsey, England, I believe it's called King John's house but it has nothing to do with King John. However troops of Edward I were once stationed there and one drew a cartoon image of Edward I on the wall. It was a profile view and he drew him with a big nose.
Edward was Edward the first because he was the first to rule over the whole of England. The other Edwards were Kings of regions of England, such as East anglia and Sussex. O'level history may not have taught me much, but we sure did learn about our royalty! That said great video as always.
Edit for spelling
Edward the Confessor ruled over England.
The kingdom of England was a thing since King Aethelstan (grandson of Alfred the Great of Wessex). Two university degrees in history may not have taught me much, I guess...
@@aureliusmacfeidh5331 well I'm happy to concede defeat, clearly I was not taught correctly. Which is not really a problem given that the royals were and still are an absolute bore!
@@janepearce5382 Maybe that's why I'm so interested. I'm a very boring person, you see ;)
@@aureliusmacfeidh5331 ha, I'm sure your not boring. History isn't boring. Being made to learn about (to paraphrase,) a succession of people whose only claim to success is coming out of a Queen is! As you can tell I don't rate royalty, but I did look up Edward the Confessor and I found it interesting so thanks.🙂
@@janepearce5382 Thank you for your kind words :)
By the way, should be interested in a Hollywood-esque tale of knighthood I highly recommend looking up William Marshal!
Trying to find actual history in Braveheart is a heck of a task
I love Braveheart. Awesome entertainment. If I want history, I'll watch a documentary.
@@PhantomFilmAustralia I agree! As a history lover I cringe, but as a film lover I am thoroughly entertained. Lol
when narrator said braveheart is a classic film I feel so old right now.
Excellent video. I love reading historical fiction. Actually they keep the main factors in place. My favorite part of the video was your comment you go dude. 😂
Real history is better than Hollywood history. It's best when they work together to be awesome.
I usually don't base my historical knowledge on Hollywood movie productions.
If The Patriot was as historically anachronistic as Braveheart the American militiamen would have been wearing Vietnam era combat fatigues, and wearing Native American war paint!
GIs jumped into Normandy wearing war paint and crying Geranimo….great point however…
@@darbyheavey406 I have since posting this also found out that several rifle companies in the American Revolution wore war paint.
For no reason they were expelled by many nations
But it’s so easy to forgive the inaccuracies when Patrick McGoohan is playing the role.
Will & Ed's Excellent Adventure
How about King Richard (The Lionhart) and his brother John (compare the Robin Hood stories to the real people)?
Edward I was the first king of Great Britain, uniting Scotland, Wales and England. A true hero.
Pretty sure Robert the Bruce would have something to say about this…
Can't trust Hollywood's versions anymore. Thank you for this greaat video .
According to my family genealogy, I am a direct descendant of King Edward I (Longshanks). My first thought was, "oh no, I'm related to the bad guy from Braveheart!!!" hahaha!
I hope at least your boy will a gentle son.
You and how many millions of Brits?
@@schoolssection oh I am sure of that, I just thought it was funny when I saw that in my genealogy
Same here 😅
Did they mention Oliver Cromwell who defeated the Scottish Welsh Irish army's all at once ?
Thanks for this! 👑
My favourite story of Longshanks is when on crusade in Palestine as a young man he was courted by 2 Muslim emissaries, after a period of time he got to know them and let his guard down and agreed to a meeting alone with them …anyways it was a ruse and when alone without guards these Assassins attacked with poisoned daggers but Edward who was a massive man managed to fight back and kill both of them ….he was badly wounded and his devoted wife nursed him back to health…
Edward's mother was Eleanor of Provence, daughter of Raimond Berenger, Count of Provenance, France. Raimond had four daughters, each of which married a King (alas no sons, so the Berenger's lost Provance). A book by Nancy Bazelon Goldstone, Four Queens the Provencal Sisters Who Ruled Europe, was written about them (Penguin Books). Eleanor became the wife of Edward's father, Henry III (one of England's weaker kings) and thus the Queen of England. One of her sisters became the Queen of France, another the Queen of Sicily, and the other the Queen of the Romans (the Holy Roman Empire). When the barons seized and imprisoned her husband, Eleanor fled to Franch where she hocked the crown jewels to raise an army. Eventually, after her son was also captured, she helped to arrange his escape. Edward raised an army and rescued his father. Eleanor returned to England and together she and her boy reeked devastation on the barons. But she did not completely free her husband. Instead, she kept him under guard, and she ruled England while her son Prince Edward, went on a fairly successful crusade. Edward never forgot that the people of London did not like Eleanor, tried to assassinate her as she was trying to flee London before the baronial army arrived. She was rescued by the Mayor of London, who despite his political leanings realized that his citizens murdering the Queen would not go over well anywhere outside the town limits. The Mayor delivered her to the monks who vouched for her safety and gave her refuge. The people of London however, never treated her well, before or after their assassination effort went astray, perhaps because she had brought several of her Berenger kin to England with her and about three hundred of her country men and women. She built her own power base and saw to it that her family and fellow country folk became key members of her husband's court and held high offices during his reign. She also arranged for the marriage of at least three of her cousins to British nobility. All of that was to their pecuniary benefit. As a result of his mother's suffering at their hands, Edward I did not like the people of London and did not treat them well either. Edward was definitely his mother's son. He was quite efficient and could be very mean, (both Berenger traits). Source: Four Queens, specifically the chapters about Eleanor Berenger. In addition to conquering Wales and Scotland and bringing them under the control of the English throne (for a while), Edward I instituted a new set of laws for which he was nicknamed "Edward the Lawgiver", in addition to being known as "Edward Longshanks", Edward "the Father of the Mother of Parliaments" (he summoned the first Model Parliament), "the English Justinian", "the Best Lance in All of the World", and Edward "the Hammer of the Scots" (having defeated William Wallace at the battle of Falkirk in July 1298, and eventually his campaigns resulted in Wallace's capture in 1305 and subsequent execution). Edward I was perhaps more of a Berenger than he was a Plantagenet (which may be why he is considered the greatest of the Plantagenet kings). Edward was tall, healthy, strong and immensely powerful, a born soldier (see British Kings and Queens by Mike Ashley, pp. 588-594). Edward died of dysentery at Burgh-on-Sands near Carlisle in July 1307 (in sight of Scotland) on his way north to bring Robert the Bruce who had raised his banner in Scotland, to battle. While Edward failed to conquer Scotland, his conquest of Wales left its mark on England, although his most lasting legacy was the firm establishment of Parliament (Ibid. p. 594).
3:20 Edward Longshanks is officially my favourite King of England!
What was depicted in Braveheart was pure fantasy, it was based on a Scottish poem written 300 years after the real events by a poet who was extremely Anglophobic
He was the model of a typical English ing but he inherited the typical Plantagenet dichotomy making him a chronicler suitably described, as "Warlike in peace but peaceful in war."
I'd like to see a video on Ruadri Ua Conchabhair (Rory O'Conner), high king of Ireland, during the Cambro-Norman Invasion. He was a friend of the king of England and the whole matter was extremely complicated. It wasn't England invading Ireland, it was an Irish king requesting help to invade Ireland, and a ton of mercenaries, including Welsh and Breton soldiers, led by a knight named Strongbow (who was betrothed to King Diarmait's daughter).
Braveheart made me love him as a “villain/tyrant” AoE 2 and RUclips made me love him as a King
How about the most infamous British king-Richard III?
Love Medieval videos 🥰😎
When museums and tourist attractions in Scotland highlighted the historical inaccuracies in Braveheart, the Scottish public demanded that they be removed and be replaced by the more epic version of Braveheart from the movies
I watched your vid with baited breath as my history (DNA) in England started in 1257. This video is helpful in seeing how people from France and Britney (my family of bow makers) married into and traveled to Scotland and later England. Also amazing was to find some of my very English family never went to England at all but directly from Britney to New Orleans a French territory. One side of the family we have found out was Jewish so it stings a bit to imagine how I would save them from being abused if I was around then. Hate is a growth industry and has always made the worst men rich. Alex Jones.
*bated
Brittany
Braveheart was before my time but I do love me some weird history.
It always makes me chuckle when people take the piss out of the Braveheart movie, where the Scottish hero is an Aussie. The pisstakers didn't spot that the English king is Irish actor Patrick McGoughan
“Roots” was historical inaccurate too.