Yes I absolutely agree with that. I wouldn't care if my bloke was a bit rough and ready with tattoos and a bald head, as long as he loved me I would certainly love him back.
i watched this when it first showed up on here and then could never find it again and didnt know the name of it...ive been looking off and on forever to find this and it pops up out of the blue 2 years later...made my day!
"Wonderful" doesn't seem enough of a word for this. As others have said you need to pay close attention to see what was happening. Well done to all involved 👏🏻 👍🏻 👏🏻
I've been working in reformatting my brain from expecting all the sad endings we're fed. Idw it to be my normal. i like it when they trick me like this tho
Swimming was my sport when I was younger. Double bonus of great exercise & hot tottie to admire at the same time. I once met a very cute Welsh man in the showers. We decided to go back to my place & he had a van outside so he could drive us there. The funny thing was that when I was directing him to my flat he realised we live in the same block just about four doors down from me. Nicely unexpected & we became quite good friends for a few years.
By reading a few comments I see what I thought I understood, but I still am not sure what I actually watched. I still have issues with shorts I guess but with this one I wonder at the Signing because of having a longtime friend born deaf and my feelings of ":Why didn't I try to learn at all?" She didn't want us to sign once she had hearing aides at a very yound age(also in 1978) Yak yak, sorry! It was a a well done and beautiful to look at film and I must watch it again! 4 out 4 Stars!
That was a twist. I just wish the actor was really Deaf, but it obviously is not. And I'm a member of Rainbow Alliance of the Deaf and it is nice to see a mention of WC-RAD.
Great story. For those of you who didn't understand. William is death; can't hear that why the sound is muffled when he's alone and on the dance floor and being attacked. The dark hair guy doesn't know it. That's why he calls out William's name on the dance floor; but since William doesn't hear him he goes out and gets attacked. At the dance floor he drops the shoe with the message from William and the guy see it and realize that he can't hear. So the dark hair guy learns sign language to communicate with William because he's interested in William.
I think the story is bit more complicated. William is deaf, that's correct. But not born deaf, I think. There is a retrospective line in the story. I believe there are two club scenes - one with the shoe and one with the dancing girl (prob. Williams friend) which happened in the past. This second scene (with the girl, which actually happend first) is when William got beaten after leaving the club. And that's also the moment he was left deaf (notice him touching his bleeding ear and the ear-ringing sound.). I thing William was (obviously) traumatized after he got attacked, has PTSD and visiting the club again is triggering for him. That and not actually hearing Thomas shouting at him was the reason why he left the club so quickly the second time (the shoe time). Further you are correct about the sign-language-learnign etc.
Hard to watch and follow in its abstract style, but beautiful in the end. I'm glad he had more success at the pool than I did. One cute guy got pissed because he wasn't gay, another went to lunch with me, but it came to nothing . . . and more . . . sigh!
Фильм выдал мне Ютуб..... так.... странно) Я тоже потерял слух из-за драк. Не как герой фильма, не сразу. Слух просто постепенно погас. Красивый фильм)
Let’s see if I understood this. Main guy goes out with female friend and after walking her home gets beat up. Second guy falls for the main guy but don’t know he deaf. After texting and writing to each other and sending cute massages with in the shoe, second guy realizes his mistakes & learns sign language to communicate directly with main guy. Did I get it right?😂
Thank you, because I can't see this very well on my phone and missed some of the notes (too blurry to read/decipher)! Then I got triggered by the beating up. I really needed someone to explain the chronology and still not quite sure I understand how what happened to him is connected to this young man with whom he swims. The ending is lovely and hopeful.
O filme nos fala tanto, sem usar da palavra falada. Tocante a interpretação dos atores. Linda a trilha sonora. Tema tratado com muito carinho e profundidade. Tocante! Amei!
Nicely done. Thank you. It joins a distinguished list of good gay short films. The list of full length ones is, sadly, a bit shorter. I guess it's a money thing. But probably also tied to a knottier problem of there not being an existing canon of work to add to. It's a bit like children's theatre. Essentially the best creative teams rarely prioritise this area because, well, it's for children rather than adding to a stream of work including Shakespeare, Chekhov and Miller. Somehow it's not "serious", even if it's comedy. Same for gay-themed films. OK for a well-crafted short but hardly the stuff of a full length feature. Is that because we don't have the stories to tell or is it because we don't want to tell the stories? Discuss.
Society has told us from Day 1 that our lives are of little worth and that we are an embarrassment, if not something to be ashamed of. Our lives were lived in the shadows, our clubs and discos and institutions were underground, and then when AIDS hit, we stood alone against the onslaught. Our stories are dismissed; our experiences are deemed unworthy. If we are actors, we are told by our teachers and agents to hide that part of ourselves in order to protect our marketability. Our loves and dreams and dreams of love are ridiculed by our families and are regarded as forgettable and insignificant. Many of us are so damaged by our negligent upbringings that anonymous sex hook-ups are the only things we are capable of, as anything more would require us to be emotionally healthy and secure. Too many of us hide behind alcohol/E/K/meth... and I have dated most of them!! Have I forgotten anything? I think the kids of today have an easier time of it - post Love Simon. Anyone over a certain age is still Brokeback Mountain meets Brideshead Revisited.
and @Leftatalbuquerque You both are right. The reasons/factors you've named could be supplied with one more, to my mind - lack of education. High education propels critical thinking. Without it ppl get stuck in traditional or clerical explanation of the world's functioning, and thus, they can't move on. Speaking of 'distinguished list of good gay short films'. In terms of at least prompt 'lecturing' my favs are: Tyler (2020), Him (2019, Iceland) and of course the recent masterpiece "Daddy" (2020, USA).
@@morningsminion3242 the entire plot of the story. Its not easy to overcome loneliness, but the way the writer had such a twist that was not made apparent to the end was so impactful. Imagine trying to adjust to a big change like that in your life and the emotions behind it: the film did an amazing job on this.
@@excelsiormalik The twist being...the one guy's deafness? I'm not even clear on which one of them was deaf, are you? If it's the guy doing the signing, how does he expect the other to understand him? If it's the other way around, did he study signing for a few months before his confession? All prior communication was by text, writing, reading, etc so how do we know who's deaf? What's the big change in someone's life and which character are you talking about? Way too much artsy flashback/forward-jump activity in the time-line/story-line to let the audience in on what exactly went down and when and how. And it's the most annoying film-maker's tic of all: artsiness for artsiness' sake, which added nothing to the quality of the flick. As I asked below: what does the deaf dude/signer, if he IS the deaf one, have to be sorry for?
@@morningsminion3242 for the sorry part: Thomas understood that William left due to some trauma (and some cues give it away) and William had been avoiding him, possibly alluding to William not feeling confident in Thomas' attraction to him. Thomas' response was to let William know he understands and still wants to move forward. The main portrayed, William, is deaf due to an incident that occurred after he and his friends left the club one night. If you think along the lines of trauma and then disability, you can follow William's plight of feeling alone since losing his hearing and constant reoccurring thoughts on the night he lost that sense. It's very apparent that Thomas was attracted to William instantly, and left the shoe as a hint to find him (Cinderella thought). When William goes, notice that the sound is not illuminated even though he is in a loud club. The only time is when it flashes back to the night. But when Thomas calls out to William - William is in the midst of a recall and has a traumatic setback and leaves. It's also a cue to Thomas that William must have some issues with the place. Though the picture in the shoe was beautiful. But what made it better was what Thomas did next. So when Thomas goes into signing...I thought that was adorable because, even in this day and age, many LGBTQ members with special needs and disabilities are not treated as kindly. Not many people would have continued pursuit. So it was adorable the way Thomas went that extra step. Thats what made it so beautiful, in my opinion. Though I give the director credit...all these cues don't make sense until the end when you realize all these things.
Lindo na tela, mas no mundo real é bem diferente. As diferenças não são consideradas bonitas. Logo, tem que se buscar a padronização. Isso causa insegurança em todos, até mesmo naqueles que são providos.
The guy was death; the other guy didn't know. When in the dance floor he yelled out his name William; but the guy couldn't hear. That is why the sound is muffled when you see William alone and on the dance floor. The guy realize it when William writes him a note. And the guy is really interested in William so he learns sign language to communicate with William. Beautifully video.
Don't really get the sequence of events...too much back and forth and in between and sideways and drawings and notes and books and shoes and stuff going on to make sense of it in one viewing and I don't care enough to go back for more. Are their relative chubbiness and bland looks somehow part of the plot? What does the deaf dude have to be sorry for?
Chubbiness and bland looks? I’m curious what you think that would contribute to the plot? Just wondering what you’re thinking. The gay community is so obsessed with body image and looks. Seems like an odd comment.
@@oceanlover3530 I'm not the "gay community." I'm one person who posted a comment. Your comment as written is a little difficult to decipher. Are you asking what chubbiness and bland looks would contribute to the plot? If so, that's exactly what I was wondering, so why are you asking me? Are you pretending to not have noticed the actors' physical aspects? Just as overly perfect/beautiful/gym-bunny actors can distract from a story by distancing their characters from the average audience--unless their appearance is germane to the plot--so can overweight, unattractive actors do the same. Anyone who says otherwise is not being honest. My favorite actors, male and female, tend to be mildly attractive and healthy-looking, though I can think of a couple who are not. It's their acting talent and skill I'm interested in, but for me their looks can't be an obstacle to connection with an audience, which I found it to be in the case of this short film. As we both know, there are lots of beautiful but lousy actors. It's snicker-worthy that you think straight people are unconcerned with looks and physical beauty.
They’re just average looking guys. The dark haired guy I actually find attractive. I still don’t understand your point. You’re saying they are so extremely bland looking that this somehow distracts you from following the storyline? They look like your typical guys next door. How is that distracting? And yes, of course some heterosexual individuals care about how they look to impress, but for most, it’s not their sole reason for living. For a good majority in the gay community it’s all that matters in life. They wake up measuring their biceps. I have never felt a connection to these people. I seek out those I connect to on spiritual and emotional levels. The gay community is very discriminating and unsupportive of those who don’t measure up to their physical standards. It’s not anywhere near the same in the heterosexual world. That’s based on what I’ve seen with all my straight siblings.
@@oceanlover3530 Especially the bearded actor is seriously overweight with big rolls of fat. You really think that's the "average" body type? These guys aren't "bland," they're unattractive. And yes, that distracts me from the plot because the acting isn't to a level where nothing else matters. That's just me. You don't have to feel the same. Wow, it sounds like you really have a hang-up about body issues in the male gay "community." I've been around a long time. There is definitely a large minority of gay men who are body-conscious to the point of obsession. My belief is that those people soak up most of the attention in media of all kinds, but I don't believe they are the majority. I feel no connection to them either, though I have met individual men who fit that stereotype but who are very nice/good people. I also look for the spiritual and emotional connections, even in my friends. You have to look below the surface but there is lots of support for gay folks dealing with the very issues you raise. I see many gay men in committed relationships who are of average looks and weight, on up the scale to obese. But I guess I'd agree that if you walk into the average gay bar, overweight and ungroomed, you're going to have a harder time getting laid. I believe the same is true in the straight world. That's just human nature.
@@morningsminion3242 I wouldn’t say that I have “hang ups” about body issues, rather, I’m disappointed that many gay men treat others who don’t meet their standards, so poorly. We’ve all suffered from discrimination enough as it is without having to deal with it amongst fellow gay “brothers.” I have never had weight problems myself, but I was raised to be a compassionate person and I’ve always reached out to those who may feel a little less “special”. I suppose, in a perfect world, we would all be respectful and accepting of one another. My personal experiences have shown me that we have way too many judgmental people in the gay community. Sorry, I know you don’t like that word, community, but it seems to fit in the context of this conversation. And yes, I do believe gay men, in general, are more judgmental then heterosexual men when it comes to body image. ✌🏻
It's good to see a gay love story between two guys with normal bodies for a change.
Absolutely true!
Amen!!
Yes I absolutely agree with that. I wouldn't care if my bloke was a bit rough and ready with tattoos and a bald head, as long as he loved me I would certainly love him back.
@@robertevans4165 True affection feels so much better than a hard unfeeling muscular body.
@@richalderson6069 Hello Rich. Yes that is very true indeed. I see guys who are beefed up on a regular basis and they just love themselves.
Beautiful, I cried when he started signing. This one really touched my soul and while watching I felt many emotions of sadness and happiness.
i watched this when it first showed up on here and then could never find it again and didnt know the name of it...ive been looking off and on forever to find this and it pops up out of the blue 2 years later...made my day!
Me, too!
@@pxn748 Me, three!
"Wonderful" doesn't seem enough of a word for this. As others have said you need to pay close attention to see what was happening. Well done to all involved 👏🏻 👍🏻 👏🏻
As opposed to ignoring what is happening? Imagine that.
This is one of the most beautiful short films I’ve ever seen. Thank you!
me too
Very beautiful and poignant film (my husband was deaf) very well done!!
I was sooooo expecting a sad ending. I'm so glad they finally connected!!!!
you were expecting something sad because many short films are with sad endings. This one is beautiful
I've been working in reformatting my brain from expecting all the sad endings we're fed. Idw it to be my normal.
i like it when they trick me like this tho
I cried at the end. But for all the right reasons. We all need to be loved.
Mije 18
Videos mike 18
MQ8F+52 Puerto de Sagunto
This is so beautiful… yet I’m very emotional at the same time! Excellent!!!
This was really a sweet short story, although you really have to pay close attention to understand the plot. Very well done.
Wow that’s a really unexpected plot twist, i love it!!
Excellent story! I was in tears at the end. Five thumbs up from me!
Hola David
Swimming was my sport when I was younger. Double bonus of great exercise & hot tottie to admire at the same time. I once met a very cute Welsh man in the showers. We decided to go back to my place & he had a van outside so he could drive us there. The funny thing was that when I was directing him to my flat he realised we live in the same block just about four doors down from me. Nicely unexpected & we became quite good friends for a few years.
Just discovered this in 2023. Thank you for the happy tears 🥰🥰
By reading a few comments I see what I thought I understood, but I still am not sure what I actually watched. I still have issues with shorts I guess but with this one I wonder at the Signing because of having a longtime friend born deaf and my feelings of ":Why didn't I try to learn at all?" She didn't want us to sign once she had hearing aides at a very yound age(also in 1978) Yak yak, sorry! It was a a well done and beautiful to look at film and I must watch it again! 4 out 4 Stars!
That was a twist. I just wish the actor was really Deaf, but it obviously is not. And I'm a member of Rainbow Alliance of the Deaf and it is nice to see a mention of WC-RAD.
Marvelous Short Film. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. ❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉
Love is Love.....simple.
Unfortunately, others choose not see let alone understand. We are STRONG. We have to be.
Aw this hurts my heart, in a good way. I was riveted until the end!
Great story. For those of you who didn't understand. William is death; can't hear that why the sound is muffled when he's alone and on the dance floor and being attacked. The dark hair guy doesn't know it. That's why he calls out William's name on the dance floor; but since William doesn't hear him he goes out and gets attacked.
At the dance floor he drops the shoe with the message from William and the guy see it and realize that he can't hear. So the dark hair guy learns sign language to communicate with William because he's interested in William.
Deaf, not death. :-)
Thought it was a ghost story.
I think the story is bit more complicated.
William is deaf, that's correct. But not born deaf, I think. There is a retrospective line in the story.
I believe there are two club scenes - one with the shoe and one with the dancing girl (prob. Williams friend) which happened in the past. This second scene (with the girl, which actually happend first) is when William got beaten after leaving the club. And that's also the moment he was left deaf (notice him touching his bleeding ear and the ear-ringing sound.).
I thing William was (obviously) traumatized after he got attacked, has PTSD and visiting the club again is triggering for him. That and not actually hearing Thomas shouting at him was the reason why he left the club so quickly the second time (the shoe time).
Further you are correct about the sign-language-learnign etc.
@@MartinLyko Goodness, you've seen all that in the film? You must be able to read a closed book!
I was really afraid of the ending.
*Thank you* ♥
Watch it again today, this one gets me every time.
Stronger than words...could convey.
Hard to watch and follow in its abstract style, but beautiful in the end. I'm glad he had more success at the pool than I did. One cute guy got pissed because he wasn't gay, another went to lunch with me, but it came to nothing . . . and more . . . sigh!
Have to admit I found the film was a bit annoying to follow at first, but it made perfect sense in the end.
I loved that remarkable story, I am so glad I found it.
BRAVO! Love this creation, Left me wanting more. Peace.
Beautiful and well done,👍💙
this make me melting. aww how cute.
As we would say here in Argentina (in Spanish): "sordo, pero no boludo" ("deaf, but quick") 😎
Фильм выдал мне Ютуб..... так.... странно)
Я тоже потерял слух из-за драк. Не как герой фильма, не сразу. Слух просто постепенно погас.
Красивый фильм)
Very beautiful film!
Sad, enjoyable and touching.
Sad ? Not at all. Love finds the way.
Such a touching story so beautifully crafted the acting was superb
such a beautiful movie! thank you!
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 Sooooooooooooo beautiful!!!
Let’s see if I understood this. Main guy goes out with female friend and after walking her home gets beat up. Second guy falls for the main guy but don’t know he deaf. After texting and writing to each other and sending cute massages with in the shoe, second guy realizes his mistakes & learns sign language to communicate directly with main guy. Did I get it right?😂
What were his mistakes? Deaf people can read.
@@morningsminion3242 I was referring to the second guy that seems to not know how to sign language.
Thank you, because I can't see this very well on my phone and missed some of the notes (too blurry to read/decipher)! Then I got triggered by the beating up. I really needed someone to explain the chronology and still not quite sure I understand how what happened to him is connected to this young man with whom he swims. The ending is lovely and hopeful.
Thanks for making a gay film with a happy ending…………………..so looking for my happy ending!
i love this. and the ending ... a big YES
Beautiful and so happy for them
I'm crying. very beautifull
O filme nos fala tanto, sem usar da palavra falada. Tocante a interpretação dos atores. Linda a trilha sonora. Tema tratado com muito carinho e profundidade. Tocante! Amei!
Atmospheric; By the 1/4 I felt apprehensive - then came the beating-up scenes - Subbed.
you all really did a great job. Thanks
Beautiful ❤
Love the kiss at the end. I was scared too that he was dead or beaten. Don't scare me like that.
Beautiful💜💜💜
AWWWWWW! So unexpected and beautiful!
Really beautiful. Great job. Thanks.
Did you like so much ? Mr Marian Divilek
no dialogue but soo deep
can somebody help me? i don't get the story line ... what is happening in this movie?
Beautiful!
Um dos melhores curtas que já assisti, absolutamente apaixonante e delicado, transmite uma mensagem muito bonita 👏❣️
Unexpected. Beautiful. Poignant. Cried at the happy ending. Perfect short!
Wow I love this film.
So sweet and uplifting! Thanks for that 🙂
Nicely done. Thank you. It joins a distinguished list of good gay short films. The list of full length ones is, sadly, a bit shorter. I guess it's a money thing. But probably also tied to a knottier problem of there not being an existing canon of work to add to. It's a bit like children's theatre. Essentially the best creative teams rarely prioritise this area because, well, it's for children rather than adding to a stream of work including Shakespeare, Chekhov and Miller. Somehow it's not "serious", even if it's comedy. Same for gay-themed films. OK for a well-crafted short but hardly the stuff of a full length feature. Is that because we don't have the stories to tell or is it because we don't want to tell the stories? Discuss.
Society has told us from Day 1 that our lives are of little worth and that we are an embarrassment, if not something to be ashamed of. Our lives were lived in the shadows, our clubs and discos and institutions were underground, and then when AIDS hit, we stood alone against the onslaught. Our stories are dismissed; our experiences are deemed unworthy. If we are actors, we are told by our teachers and agents to hide that part of ourselves in order to protect our marketability. Our loves and dreams and dreams of love are ridiculed by our families and are regarded as forgettable and insignificant. Many of us are so damaged by our negligent upbringings that anonymous sex hook-ups are the only things we are capable of, as anything more would require us to be emotionally healthy and secure. Too many of us hide behind alcohol/E/K/meth... and I have dated most of them!! Have I forgotten anything?
I think the kids of today have an easier time of it - post Love Simon. Anyone over a certain age is still Brokeback Mountain meets Brideshead Revisited.
and @Leftatalbuquerque You both are right. The reasons/factors you've named could be supplied with one more, to my mind - lack of education. High education propels critical thinking. Without it ppl get stuck in traditional or clerical explanation of the world's functioning, and thus, they can't move on.
Speaking of 'distinguished list of good gay short films'. In terms of at least prompt 'lecturing' my favs are: Tyler (2020), Him (2019, Iceland) and of course the recent masterpiece "Daddy" (2020, USA).
Beautiful. It is only one word. But the video was.
That was adorable!
What did you find adorable about it?
@@morningsminion3242 the entire plot of the story. Its not easy to overcome loneliness, but the way the writer had such a twist that was not made apparent to the end was so impactful. Imagine trying to adjust to a big change like that in your life and the emotions behind it: the film did an amazing job on this.
@@excelsiormalik The twist being...the one guy's deafness? I'm not even clear on which one of them was deaf, are you? If it's the guy doing the signing, how does he expect the other to understand him? If it's the other way around, did he study signing for a few months before his confession? All prior communication was by text, writing, reading, etc so how do we know who's deaf?
What's the big change in someone's life and which character are you talking about?
Way too much artsy flashback/forward-jump activity in the time-line/story-line to let the audience in on what exactly went down and when and how. And it's the most annoying film-maker's tic of all: artsiness for artsiness' sake, which added nothing to the quality of the flick.
As I asked below: what does the deaf dude/signer, if he IS the deaf one, have to be sorry for?
@@morningsminion3242 for the sorry part: Thomas understood that William left due to some trauma (and some cues give it away) and William had been avoiding him, possibly alluding to William not feeling confident in Thomas' attraction to him. Thomas' response was to let William know he understands and still wants to move forward.
The main portrayed, William, is deaf due to an incident that occurred after he and his friends left the club one night. If you think along the lines of trauma and then disability, you can follow William's plight of feeling alone since losing his hearing and constant reoccurring thoughts on the night he lost that sense. It's very apparent that Thomas was attracted to William instantly, and left the shoe as a hint to find him (Cinderella thought). When William goes, notice that the sound is not illuminated even though he is in a loud club. The only time is when it flashes back to the night. But when Thomas calls out to William - William is in the midst of a recall and has a traumatic setback and leaves. It's also a cue to Thomas that William must have some issues with the place. Though the picture in the shoe was beautiful. But what made it better was what Thomas did next.
So when Thomas goes into signing...I thought that was adorable because, even in this day and age, many LGBTQ members with special needs and disabilities are not treated as kindly. Not many people would have continued pursuit. So it was adorable the way Thomas went that extra step. Thats what made it so beautiful, in my opinion. Though I give the director credit...all these cues don't make sense until the end when you realize all these things.
Lovely!
That was sweet
Damn that was awesome :)
Touching, really! Thank you so much!
This is Beautiful
Ok that was a good one
Really well done
So beautiful!
Are you all right Now? Mr Robert Beining
Very very good. Thank you.
Nice finish.
Great film.
Looking cool.
Like how they don't have perfect bodies.
Loved it ❤️
This was lovely
okay im crying
Beautiful
That was soo sweet
Awwwwww!
Maravilhoso
WOW!!!
Nice ending but what did I miss?
Exactly. What you probably missed was a coherently-told story.
@@morningsminion3242 That's the beauty of short films.
@@MartinLyko The beauty of short films is that the story, if there is one, needs to be told incoherently? I hadn't heard that.
Nice ❤️👍🏼
Nome?
BUT WHY DO A MAJORITY OF GAY FILMS ALWAYS HAVE VIOLENCE? WRONG MESSAGE 😢
the 1st part i thought i had a tinnitus
Bravo
Le entendiste ?de que trata ?
Kohomae video Deaf love 🏳️🌈✌️🤟🤟🤗
Very nice to be with each other.
Hello,, I'm from California 34 yrs old single gay,, you?????,,..
Keep safe always there friend
John
WTF am I watching. This is disconnected.
👌👌👌
Lindo na tela, mas no mundo real é bem diferente. As diferenças não são consideradas bonitas. Logo, tem que se buscar a padronização. Isso causa insegurança em todos, até mesmo naqueles que são providos.
ok this one went over my head i didn't get it 2 chance for what that he miss him at the bar didn't know he was deaf?
What the hell was that?
💗💗💗
Can someone explain??
The guy was death; the other guy didn't know. When in the dance floor he yelled out his name William; but the guy couldn't hear. That is why the sound is muffled when you see William alone and on the dance floor. The guy realize it when William writes him a note. And the guy is really interested in William so he learns sign language to communicate with William. Beautifully video.
@@davidcarrero4746 Is he death, why? How dies ? I either understand the movie I live in México city.
@@aran2470no es “muerte” sino sordo
Tbh, I enjoyed having a tooth pulled more than watching that. Guy was cute though.
❤🧡💛💚💙💜🤎💜💙💚💛🧡❤
Don't really get the sequence of events...too much back and forth and in between and sideways and drawings and notes and books and shoes and stuff going on to make sense of it in one viewing and I don't care enough to go back for more. Are their relative chubbiness and bland looks somehow part of the plot? What does the deaf dude have to be sorry for?
Chubbiness and bland looks? I’m curious what you think that would contribute to the plot? Just wondering what you’re thinking. The gay community is so obsessed with body image and looks. Seems like an odd comment.
@@oceanlover3530 I'm not the "gay community." I'm one person who posted a comment. Your comment as written is a little difficult to decipher. Are you asking what chubbiness and bland looks would contribute to the plot? If so, that's exactly what I was wondering, so why are you asking me? Are you pretending to not have noticed the actors' physical aspects? Just as overly perfect/beautiful/gym-bunny actors can distract from a story by distancing their characters from the average audience--unless their appearance is germane to the plot--so can overweight, unattractive actors do the same. Anyone who says otherwise is not being honest.
My favorite actors, male and female, tend to be mildly attractive and healthy-looking, though I can think of a couple who are not. It's their acting talent and skill I'm interested in, but for me their looks can't be an obstacle to connection with an audience, which I found it to be in the case of this short film. As we both know, there are lots of beautiful but lousy actors.
It's snicker-worthy that you think straight people are unconcerned with looks and physical beauty.
They’re just average looking guys. The dark haired guy I actually find attractive. I still don’t understand your point. You’re saying they are so extremely bland looking that this somehow distracts you from following the storyline? They look like your typical guys next door. How is that distracting?
And yes, of course some heterosexual individuals care about how they look to impress, but for most, it’s not their sole reason for living. For a good majority in the gay community it’s all that matters in life. They wake up measuring their biceps. I have never felt a connection to these people. I seek out those I connect to on spiritual and emotional levels. The gay community is very discriminating and unsupportive of those who don’t measure up to their physical standards. It’s not anywhere near the same in the heterosexual world. That’s based on what I’ve seen with all my straight siblings.
@@oceanlover3530 Especially the bearded actor is seriously overweight with big rolls of fat. You really think that's the "average" body type? These guys aren't "bland," they're unattractive. And yes, that distracts me from the plot because the acting isn't to a level where nothing else matters. That's just me. You don't have to feel the same.
Wow, it sounds like you really have a hang-up about body issues in the male gay "community." I've been around a long time. There is definitely a large minority of gay men who are body-conscious to the point of obsession. My belief is that those people soak up most of the attention in media of all kinds, but I don't believe they are the majority. I feel no connection to them either, though I have met individual men who fit that stereotype but who are very nice/good people. I also look for the spiritual and emotional connections, even in my friends. You have to look below the surface but there is lots of support for gay folks dealing with the very issues you raise. I see many gay men in committed relationships who are of average looks and weight, on up the scale to obese.
But I guess I'd agree that if you walk into the average gay bar, overweight and ungroomed, you're going to have a harder time getting laid. I believe the same is true in the straight world. That's just human nature.
@@morningsminion3242 I wouldn’t say that I have “hang ups” about body issues, rather, I’m disappointed that many gay men treat others who don’t meet their standards, so poorly. We’ve all suffered from discrimination enough as it is without having to deal with it amongst fellow gay “brothers.” I have never had weight problems myself, but I was raised to be a compassionate person and I’ve always reached out to those who may feel a little less “special”. I suppose, in a perfect world, we would all be respectful and accepting of one another. My personal experiences have shown me that we have way too many judgmental people in the gay community. Sorry, I know you don’t like that word, community, but it seems to fit in the context of this conversation. And yes, I do believe gay men, in general, are more judgmental then heterosexual men when it comes to body image. ✌🏻
Verry nice. I do wish there was a bit more communication though.