I ended putting a pair of the Rockford R165X3 into a DIY bluetooth boombox project. I'm impressed with the sound. I also bought some JBL Stage 3, Skar RPX3, and Punch P1650 speakers for future boombox builds. 6.5" speakers are good for the size and sound of boomboxes. The feedback so far are these sound a lot better than what is being commercially offered. These videos helped me make a good choice for the speaker selection. Thanks Mike! Keep the videos coming.
Everyone needs to pay more attention to the sensitivities of the speakers and the output of your head unit your amplifier very good indicator of how they will perform
I’m impressed with jbl. I would say if you’re not planning to put a subwoofer then go with jbl since it does a great job playing lower notes compared to prime. If you’re adding a subwoofer then it wouldn’t matter as much which you choose since you’ll filter out most of the lower hertz from speaker
I like rockfords fosgate r165x3 because it has better clarity then jbl. I had these for my 2015 lancer es with real time amplifier so it helps a lot but with sony avx I don't which one but it was a double din but overall the music was amazing since I owned before trading it in
JBL GTO629 sound way more pleasing to my ears. Warmer/fuller more smooth sound. Well balanced. The Rockford Fosgate speakers are more clear for sure, but they are too hot imo...They would cause me ear fatigue much quicker....Just my humble opinion.
I like the fosgates better still. Yea I hate that it’s lacking booming bass and only does punchy bass. Just sounds more open, natural and nuanced and cleaner more life like as if you are there. Yes, absolutely lacking heavy booming bass but easy fix for those of us already planning on adding a subwoofer as well and having properly tuned and setup.
JBL for the W again. I had no idea all these professional speakers had such a terrible sound disparity. Very glad I found your channel before I wasted money.
@cjon24s69 Exactly! Punch series sounds so much better, I have the p1650's running off a 4 channel amp, they sound so crisp. The Power series is even better from what I've been told
I ordered a set of 4 of the rockford fosgate R165x3 because i have a set of dual rockford fosgate punch p1 12's in the back of my durango and i have always thought that if you want good meshing sounds get matching brands from your door speakers with your subwoofers. I have a cheap crap head unit and door speakers in it now and its loud but i want a more clean tone and something louder so i can hear it better over my true dual glasspacks with my windows down haha the RF speakers werent the most expensive but also not the cheapest either and i ordered a pioneer MVH-280FD high output head unit to pair with the rockford fosgate speakers and subs. I hope this setup delivers the ear torturing loud sound i want.
Mike, you are the man ! Plz jump on the NVX 6.5 X-series and compare it against the Alpine type R 6.5 coaxials ! Your ratings will go through the roof !
Yup. That's the frustrating midrange tone of my fosgate 163x3s. Blech. The highs are actually quite a bit better than this would lead you to believe. But the mids are SUPER loud and harsh around 1k up to around 4500 or 5000 hz. Particularly harsh and full of resonances between 3k and 4.5kHz. I seriously reduce that range by roughly 10db and it MOSTLY evens it out, but even then the severe uneveness of those speakers in that frequency range just makes them nasty, at least as you turn it up. I'm seriously going to try removing my door panels and putting electrical tape over the midrange speakers (the "larger tweeter", it isn't two tweeters actually) on the rockford fosgates in my car to see if just removing that driver solves the problems. I can't imagine that the 6.5" driver can't get up to 5kHz or so, and the other little piezo tweeter clearly comes on strong after that point and is very efficient and satisfying.... so I'm wondering if making them two way will solve the problems. For the cost it's worth a shot. Unfortunately, finding other speakers that fit into my car is tough without tons of work, so I need to see what I can accomplish with these fosgates first.
they sound the same no notable difference for a more expensive speaker. The last video you did with these rockford 3 way vs the more expensive 2 way speakers i did notice a difference 2 2 ways had a brighter sound. good video
The frequency response of the Rockfords is more than enough to reach the highs on the song you're playing. It makes no sense why it isn't even playing, are you sure the tweeters on your speaker are even working?
JBL has better Tweeter, low end seems about the same. You can even see this, those "3 way" with a supertweeter aren't that good, that's why they need a supertweeter in the first place. The small Supertweeter often go bad in the first 4..5 month and you don't hear the difference afterwards without comparison. If you like a good bass with 6.5 system buy a real 3 way or 2 way system, only a 6.5 woofer if you have space for a tweeter. They have a better bass. If you use it on a car stereo without an amp, search for a lightweight speaker with not that much power but more efficiency and low frequency response 40 man eben 30Hz.
Unfortunately you are playing all these tests too loud for your mic and the software is limiting and compressing the sound. I worked in pro audio for years, this is not a guess. I can still pick out glaring deficiencies and some tonal qualities though so I guess all is not lost. Too bad, as I was look forward to this when I found it.
Hey bro yep you right I was testing all microphone and recording systems NowI have 32bit loat recorder with 158db microphone to record check my new videos finally no distortions at all l
@@LIFEINSPEED Thanks for the reply brother. Good to hear, I figured you might...you seem like the kind of guy that just gets it done. No messing around. I can appreciate that. I'll check the vids, good luck to you.
You know that you can NOT a / b test anything over youtube? The sound we hear is your microphone, youtube compression and finally the equipment the user is listening to.
Thanks for your very informative comparisons. Love the JBL GTO 629 but are they any better than the JL C1-650 coaxials. I am looking for a good bassy pair of 6 1/2 speakers around the same price range.Or what else (50w min to 200 max)is better.
Can't speak on how they compare to the JL's but, I can confirm that a $40 set of JVC 6.5 sound FAR better than the GTO629. I should have done a video comparison in the vehicle.
@@LIFEINSPEED If you have a chance, do a comparison with the JBL 629 and JVC CS-ZX640 (or similar JVC CS-HX649). You may be surprised at the results. I only put one JBL on the left channel to compare against the JVC prior to swapping everything to JBL. The JBL went back in the box immediately. Perhaps it was defective out of the box. It was flat sounding, absolutely terrible vocal midrange, and tweeter was flat. Pushing the button did nothing noticeable. I actually bought both the GTO629 and a set of GTO609. Due to how bad the 629's sounded, I have returned both.
This Rockford speaker has very plastic empty sound, very fake sound. Thanks for this review now I know I have to stay away from this speaker. Even my factory speakers sound better!
Screws and Tests are plural, and Screw and Test are singular, Screwses and Testses are't words, unless you mean Testes then that wouldn't have anything to do with your speakers. You're welcome! 😜
@@carloslivinloud Sounds like you are in to imaging so you should try the lnfinity Kappa series, and go with 4 speakers so that you get a proper sound stage effect.
@@carloslivinloud my first silverado had the bose in it I thought it sounded pretty good tbh better than another silverado that I bought that had these primes in it for sure
I don't know how the JBL GTO629 can get such a good review. I purchased a set and received them today. I put one in just to test how it sounded compared to my JVC CS-ZX640 speakers that I have been running for about a year. The JBL 629's sounded HORRIBLE (flat) as compared to the $40 year old JVC speakers. I really expected an upgrade going to the 629's but, didn't even finish one song before removing and boxing it back up. Also returned a set of JBL GTO609 component speakers. I figured if the 629's sounded so terrible, no sense in even opening the 609 box.
@@LIFEINSPEED I did watch that video - it helped me choose the JBL. Amp is a compact soundstream stealth st4.1200 rated at 100x4. Unsure what you mean by underwater? I chose to switch to the JBL 629 after reading many great reviews online and watched your video comparisons. Unfortunately, my experience was much different. Perhaps the JBL were defective out of box.
@@takeiteasy1237 Since they sounded so flat, I didn't feel that any break-in would drastically change. The enclosures are these: www.ssvworks.com/product/SS-B65-Polaris_Slingshot_Behind_Seat_Speaker_Pods They have acoustical batting in the enclosures.
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These side by side comparisons are very useful, thanks for your time making them
To say that is a entry level rockford that speaker is awesome
I ended putting a pair of the Rockford R165X3 into a DIY bluetooth boombox project. I'm impressed with the sound. I also bought some JBL Stage 3, Skar RPX3, and Punch P1650 speakers for future boombox builds. 6.5" speakers are good for the size and sound of boomboxes. The feedback so far are these sound a lot better than what is being commercially offered. These videos helped me make a good choice for the speaker selection. Thanks Mike! Keep the videos coming.
Rockford = Freshness of music
JBL has too much treble, the tweeter is too loud, I would choose Rockford definitely, what a clear and nice sound!
Everyone needs to pay more attention to the sensitivities of the speakers and the output of your head unit your amplifier very good indicator of how they will perform
Please do more reviews, this was awesome info. Great presentation!!
You just saved me 40.00. Thank you.
I’m impressed with jbl. I would say if you’re not planning to put a subwoofer then go with jbl since it does a great job playing lower notes compared to prime. If you’re adding a subwoofer then it wouldn’t matter as much which you choose since you’ll filter out most of the lower hertz from speaker
I like rockfords fosgate r165x3 because it has better clarity then jbl. I had these for my 2015 lancer es with real time amplifier so it helps a lot but with sony avx I don't which one but it was a double din but overall the music was amazing since I owned before trading it in
JBL GTO629 sound way more pleasing to my ears. Warmer/fuller more smooth sound. Well balanced. The Rockford Fosgate speakers are more clear for sure, but they are too hot imo...They would cause me ear fatigue much quicker....Just my humble opinion.
I like the fosgates better still. Yea I hate that it’s lacking booming bass and only does punchy bass. Just sounds more open, natural and nuanced and cleaner more life like as if you are there. Yes, absolutely lacking heavy booming bass but easy fix for those of us already planning on adding a subwoofer as well and having properly tuned and setup.
Fully agree the jbl sounds more natural, the RF sounds more distant with less midbass...
JBL for the W again. I had no idea all these professional speakers had such a terrible sound disparity. Very glad I found your channel before I wasted money.
Same here. Fosgate almost got me for the name and advertising, but I went JBL for mids and highs in my suv. Very happy.
These are thw lowest end rockfords compared to a higher end jbl...
@cjon24s69 Exactly! Punch series sounds so much better, I have the p1650's running off a 4 channel amp, they sound so crisp. The Power series is even better from what I've been told
Grab your gabbage and destroy it. I love how you describe the stock speakers dude.
I ordered a set of 4 of the rockford fosgate R165x3 because i have a set of dual rockford fosgate punch p1 12's in the back of my durango and i have always thought that if you want good meshing sounds get matching brands from your door speakers with your subwoofers. I have a cheap crap head unit and door speakers in it now and its loud but i want a more clean tone and something louder so i can hear it better over my true dual glasspacks with my windows down haha the RF speakers werent the most expensive but also not the cheapest either and i ordered a pioneer MVH-280FD high output head unit to pair with the rockford fosgate speakers and subs. I hope this setup delivers the ear torturing loud sound i want.
Chachacha! thx for the vid.. JBL GTOs for my fiesta ST it is.. i'm sold
It would be better if you had a light on each box light up when you press the button to tell which is playing.
Mike, you are the man ! Plz jump on the NVX 6.5 X-series and compare it against the Alpine type R 6.5 coaxials ! Your ratings will go through the roof !
Yup. That's the frustrating midrange tone of my fosgate 163x3s. Blech. The highs are actually quite a bit better than this would lead you to believe. But the mids are SUPER loud and harsh around 1k up to around 4500 or 5000 hz. Particularly harsh and full of resonances between 3k and 4.5kHz. I seriously reduce that range by roughly 10db and it MOSTLY evens it out, but even then the severe uneveness of those speakers in that frequency range just makes them nasty, at least as you turn it up.
I'm seriously going to try removing my door panels and putting electrical tape over the midrange speakers (the "larger tweeter", it isn't two tweeters actually) on the rockford fosgates in my car to see if just removing that driver solves the problems. I can't imagine that the 6.5" driver can't get up to 5kHz or so, and the other little piezo tweeter clearly comes on strong after that point and is very efficient and satisfying.... so I'm wondering if making them two way will solve the problems. For the cost it's worth a shot.
Unfortunately, finding other speakers that fit into my car is tough without tons of work, so I need to see what I can accomplish with these fosgates first.
The two are very close but I agree the 6X9s do outperform these 6.5". Would love to see some Focal Flax and Focal 7X10s
they sound the same no notable difference for a more expensive speaker. The last video you did with these rockford 3 way vs the more expensive 2 way speakers i did notice a difference 2 2 ways had a brighter sound. good video
Thanks for the review
You could use douple pole double throw switch to chose what speaker you want to turn on.
Thank you❤🙏 for good information
Can u guide me
Witch 3 way speaker good for sounds quality
for car
Are you using the same Side Output for both speakers? because if you use left-right side for each speaker it will mess with the details.
The frequency response of the Rockfords is more than enough to reach the highs on the song you're playing. It makes no sense why it isn't even playing, are you sure the tweeters on your speaker are even working?
Very good review. Thanks.
Fosgate is less consistent, but very good in specific circumstances. JBL is the way to go...just a lot more balanced and linear.
They both have a signature but it's relatively the same any differences could be eq d out
Rockford all day..but you can't go wrong either way..
How about infinity ref-6532ix vs JBL gto 629 premium?
rockford
Pyramid PLG 64 is the way to go unless ya are into treble
Wow thanks man just picked up the JBL hahaha
what do you think is better jbl gx602 or rockford fosgate r165x3 that went in a hand by hand comparison with the jbl gto 629?
JBL has better Tweeter, low end seems about the same. You can even see this, those "3 way" with a supertweeter aren't that good, that's why they need a supertweeter in the first place. The small Supertweeter often go bad in the first 4..5 month and you don't hear the difference afterwards without comparison. If you like a good bass with 6.5 system buy a real 3 way or 2 way system, only a 6.5 woofer if you have space for a tweeter. They have a better bass. If you use it on a car stereo without an amp, search for a lightweight speaker with not that much power but more efficiency and low frequency response 40 man eben 30Hz.
How do we know which one you are playing ?
You can see press the button
Right I was lost
JBL is also more than double the price
Rockford wooooooon
Hello could you do the rockford fosgate vs the new 6.5 diamond audio
More fidelity the jbl gto
Unfortunately you are playing all these tests too loud for your mic and the software is limiting and compressing the sound. I worked in pro audio for years, this is not a guess. I can still pick out glaring deficiencies and some tonal qualities though so I guess all is not lost. Too bad, as I was look forward to this when I found it.
Hey bro yep you right I was testing all microphone and recording systems NowI have 32bit loat recorder with 158db microphone to record check my new videos finally no distortions at all l
@@LIFEINSPEED Thanks for the reply brother. Good to hear, I figured you might...you seem like the kind of guy that just gets it done. No messing around. I can appreciate that. I'll check the vids, good luck to you.
Right good
Im just wondering why the speakers weren't breathing, my setup has the bass shaking the cones.
You know that you can NOT a / b test anything over youtube? The sound we hear is your microphone, youtube compression and finally the equipment the user is listening to.
Yea RUclips compression does a lot to the sound. Also, he’s in an untreated room.
Why is this labeled Rockford Fosgate when you're showing JBL?
Is jbl gto better sound than jbl gx ?
Which are better these rockford fosgates or Jl audio C2-650x???
Thanks for your very informative comparisons. Love the JBL GTO 629 but are they any better than the JL C1-650 coaxials. I am looking for a good bassy pair of 6 1/2 speakers around the same price range.Or what else (50w min to 200 max)is better.
Can't speak on how they compare to the JL's but, I can confirm that a $40 set of JVC 6.5 sound FAR better than the GTO629.
I should have done a video comparison in the vehicle.
JVC never sound better same as allara guys was telling me about polk audio when I test them they sound shit
Anyway will test hem )
@@LIFEINSPEED If you have a chance, do a comparison with the JBL 629 and JVC CS-ZX640 (or similar JVC CS-HX649). You may be surprised at the results.
I only put one JBL on the left channel to compare against the JVC prior to swapping everything to JBL.
The JBL went back in the box immediately.
Perhaps it was defective out of the box. It was flat sounding, absolutely terrible vocal midrange, and tweeter was flat. Pushing the button did nothing noticeable.
I actually bought both the GTO629 and a set of GTO609. Due to how bad the 629's sounded, I have returned both.
Hello, jbl gx602 or r165x3?
Which is better? This or JBL 352 hi?
GTO
where is low freq ?
5:30 what song ?
Sempre quero agora. By Luiz gomes
Bought a truck that had the primes in it didn't know that until I went to change them out wasn't impressed I thought it sounded like stock
Put an amp on them and they sound better.
you need to listen ds18 coaxials
you never had the JBL 6x9 vs the prime 6x9
=(
This Rockford speaker has very plastic empty sound, very fake sound. Thanks for this review now I know I have to stay away from this speaker. Even my factory speakers sound better!
Screws and Tests are plural, and Screw and Test are singular, Screwses and Testses are't words, unless you mean Testes then that wouldn't have anything to do with your speakers. You're welcome! 😜
I know my english fukup I need English teacher just like you 😂😂
Aren’t *
and the winner goes to....?
I just want some components that will sound like a bose system
Like a bose? And do you know bose is one of the shorties sounding systems in car audio ?
LIFE IN SPEED Mike Angels I’m sorry I’m not sure what you mean by shorties like the lowest brand used in car Audio?
Kurloz Soriano yes
@@carloslivinloud Sounds like you are in to imaging so you should try the lnfinity Kappa series, and go with 4 speakers so that you get a proper sound stage effect.
@@carloslivinloud my first silverado had the bose in it I thought it sounded pretty good tbh better than another silverado that I bought that had these primes in it for sure
What amplifier would you recommend for polk audio mm1 6.5 marine speakers sir?
At least 100 rms per channel
Any small amp will do the job cuz this guy cant handle power
Great thank you very much
I don't know how the JBL GTO629 can get such a good review. I purchased a set and received them today.
I put one in just to test how it sounded compared to my JVC CS-ZX640 speakers that I have been running for about a year.
The JBL 629's sounded HORRIBLE (flat) as compared to the $40 year old JVC speakers.
I really expected an upgrade going to the 629's but, didn't even finish one song before removing and boxing it back up.
Also returned a set of JBL GTO609 component speakers. I figured if the 629's sounded so terrible, no sense in even opening the 609 box.
What Amp r you running on them Watch my Mercedes speaker upgrade it was huge difference
May be you underwater them
@@LIFEINSPEED I did watch that video - it helped me choose the JBL.
Amp is a compact soundstream stealth st4.1200 rated at 100x4. Unsure what you mean by underwater?
I chose to switch to the JBL 629 after reading many great reviews online and watched your video comparisons.
Unfortunately, my experience was much different.
Perhaps the JBL were defective out of box.
They have to break in first and did you deaden the door?
@@takeiteasy1237 Since they sounded so flat, I didn't feel that any break-in would drastically change.
The enclosures are these:
www.ssvworks.com/product/SS-B65-Polaris_Slingshot_Behind_Seat_Speaker_Pods
They have acoustical batting in the enclosures.
Like
they almost sound the same
Boss not bose, big difference !
The Rockford Fosgate Power series would out perform those JBL's.
Screws not screwses
Nice jbl
Jbl stage3 637f is better
No difference between those 2
JBL wins again ...
With no headphones they sound the same truthful
Jbl sounded better to me...
Only on a specific song
But they do sound good
rockford sounded like a laptop speaker
Iwantfreestuff
jbl is win
The 2 suck 😂
Easily Jbl
screwzez
change the microphone. bad recording quality
the sound is garbage or your microphone is garbage