I’m new to motorcycling and my Triumph Tiger 1050 sport had Pirelli Angels on when I first bought it but they where pretty old then. I bought a set of Road 5’s after watching Richy Vida bang on about them so thought I’d try them out. As you said, they are confidence inspiring. A great all rounder and, after my North Coast 500 trip when it pissed down for most of the time, they were brilliant I the wet. 6k in now but definitely will get another set in the spring.
The Angel GT remained unchanged for a good 5 or 6 years, not a great tire! Although they have now brought out the Angel GT II, which might also be worth a look.
Thanks for this video, I totally agree. My new CB500X came with Dunlop Trailmax and they were horrible. Changed them at 3000 miles for Road 5's and it was like a new bike, I was giggling all the way home after fitting. Now got a new F750GS and it has Anakee 3's and they slip like hell on wet muddy Scottish B-roads so about to get them swapped for Road 5's, can't wait. The difference is phenomenal. I don't care about tyre life I care about MY life and want the stickiest tyres available. Cheers.
Like you say, tyres are a feel thing. But grip AND longevity is the holy grail! Only prob I had was on michelin. Cold tyre slides. Pilot power I think they were. Good vid, nice to see you out there 🏍️👍
Cheers Stuart was good to get back out! Had a few very busy weeks and unfortunately wasn't in the right frame of mind to get out and film. The channel slows down a bit over the winter months, but still more to come👍😜
I love them as well driving street triple 2013 and got close to 10k out of them and that’s with sporty riding and commuting every day. And that on Irish roads 😄
Gen 5 VFR800. About to get a new set after over 2 years, 27 000km on the rear, I got 17 000 out of the front, 99% commuting between 40-80kmh. I live in Cairns where the rain in the wet season is torrential. Never a slip. Crazy durability and excellent grip.
Yamaha Tracer 900 GT in A mode. I had Michelin Road 5 that did not have grip on dry pavement. It did however grip surprisingly well in the rain. After riding on the Michelin Power 5 for a day, I'm pleased to say I have good grip all day long. Not once did I get wheel spin. Wheelies, jumps, cornering, high speeds and city traffic manner was all great. It doesn't have the tread siping that the Road 5 had, so can't expect the wet performance to be as good. Road 5 was horrible, scary with no confidence.
Man I still got my stock tires Dunlop 214’s and they got almost 4k Miles on them and they are still good! In anything they need changed for time if anything! You must be hell on tires if you burn up Michelin’s in that low of mileage! That or something wrong some where! Hell i used to race my ninja 750 and it would still do 4k miles on a set of Dunlop’s or Michelin’s! Now I chewed up a Shinto drag tire real quick like 1500 miles but they was racing so burn out and full throttle hits on it!
This sounds more realistic. I've got a gsxr 1000 k6 and I get about 2500 miles out of a sports tyre before it's fuked. Can't see these lasting much longer than that
I love the road 5 just good everywhere on my 1290GT! I used them drag racing at a work fun day,no burnout and took off pretty easy as was nervous on my new bike (2 weeks ownership) and had not been drag racing since i had my first bike 20 years ago. managed a 10.6 @138mph
Great review, what I have found out about Michelin tyres in general is how they wear a lot more even through out their life and at the later stages you get a feeling of the bike not having the sense of balance in slow traffic which i think is the way the front tyres wear to a sharper rad .I had 2 sets of pilot road 4's getting around 8k miles out of each set. Got me a Versys 1000se with Bridgestones on and after 5k miles the back tyre has a prominent flat on it and I am fighting to balance at low speed . Road 5's soon cheers
Last year I bought a Kawasaki Versys 1000 fitted with A41. After a summer of touring through French Brittany, they were worn out. I then bought a pair of Road 5 and my first feeling when I came out of the garage was "how did they remove 30 kgs of weight from my Kawa", the moto was so much easier to ride !
Great video!! I watched this after having had a pair of R5s fitted to my 696 Monster and I'm getting really confidant and committed to putting trust in these tires when cornering in the wet in these dark winter months..... Can't believe how many miles you can squeeze out them either!!! Can't wait for the summer now haha x
Hi I know it’s a old video and I agree . I’ve used road 5 180 rear 5k later 3 track days still loads left very good Just change my bike but can’t see any 200/55/17 for sale rear biggest I’ve seen is 190 .
I had the same trouble getting a 200 rear, had to go with the Power 5 for this bike. I'm back on the s1000xr now and is sporting a beautiful set of Road 6's👍😜
@@thelikeablerider8800 how you getting on with the road 6 ? Seem to be going down the trap door route of more wet weather tyre side sipes . I love the road 5 but hated the road 3 felt to disconnect. Only went back to Michelin after you and Andy review and spot on total agree . Still on the bike I’m selling tyres 2 years old still loads left would of been bins long ago in the past . They did start to over heat on track on a hot day but gave warring so no nasty surprises.
@@marksmith8663 I haven't noticed any difference in grip, still feel as great as the Road, but I'll be very interested to know if they last a bit longer👍
Welcome back, i have missed your vlogs, Thank you for the review because I hate the stock tires on the Suzuki V-storm. The Bridgestone are ok but shit in the gravel and I need a tire that will be soft enough to not slide around on gravel. Now most of my rides are on pavement but a lot of the corners have gravel in them so I have got a few nervous times and with traction control cranked up to full I still have nerves. I just started riding this summer and now have the bike in storage because it is snowing, Swapped the bike for the snowmobile, lol. Now, who is going on and on! Thanks for the review, very well done and photographed. Value and love watching your rides, look forward to your next one. Hello from Northern Ontario Canada
I have switched to Continental Roadattack 3 from the Road 5 (after 15.000km), from what i can say so far (after another 12.000km), the CRA3 has better Dry Grip - its like glue and i couldn't find the limits of grip, but the Road5 has better wet Grip. Especially towards the end of the tire life, the Road5 wet grip is much better. Since i usually ride in nice weather, i think the CRA3 is the tire for me and after 12.000km i still have 4mm left on the rear center (from 9mm new) on a 210kg bike.
Hey Baldur I have CRA3 on one bike and Road5 on another. I really like both, but I'm really fan of continentals for fast roads. How do you feel / felt about T31 compared with other 2? I now moved from CRA3 to S21 and is another level, although I know that they will last less....;) Cheers
@@TheVelasquez87 hey Pedro, the CRA3's are now almost finished with 15k Kilometers and will bis going on later this year. I talked to a few people who rode both and it seemed like their opinion was CRA3>T31>Road5. Apparently the T31 is also more stable with a lot of weight (for example when riding with a pillion) and also lasts a bit longer. Concering my riding style: I drive fast but fluid and i don't heavily push in and out of the corners. Basically Track and Road are seperate. Thats why i get that high milage out of my tires. On a bike with TC and when pushing the tire to its limits they all probably won't last 6k on the back tire.
On my second set of Road 5s. Got 13,000kms out of my front and 19,000kms from the rear. I have a Suzuki 1250S. Mainly touring plus one track day. Great tyres for this bike. Had a couple of sets of Metzler M7s previously. Didn’t like them as much, but may have just been the wrong tyre for my bike..
Excellent tyres and got mine on an offer which was even better. Rode in some heavy rain on minor roads with all sorts of crud washed onto the road and no problems at all. About 6k miles on them so far with even wear and plenty of wear left. My bike is low powered which helps to reduce wear.
The Michelin pilot road 5 is in deed an excellent Tyre. They came equipping my new BMW 1250 RT, she’s with 12.000kms now, and the tyres still are in very decent condition. Briefly, I’ll need a new set of tyres and I think I’ll repeat this option. Very reliable and very resistant tyre 👌
I got about 7k km on the front and 5-6k km on the rear on my Shiver 750....the Angel GT (1st Gen) was done at 4k km with a worser performance AND A2 restriction. But just as you....I come back over and over again to the Road 5😁 90% of my riding is done on twisty roads in Upper Austria.
Im used pirelli Angel ST on my z1000, i can get 15k kilometers before i change a new set. Is almost same as michelin pilot road 3 i fit in twice to my z1000. Definitely would like to try michelin pilot road 5 after this.
Good for you taking a rest! It's quality not quantity I like to watch. Totally agree with you, fitted 5's to my S1R and have done 1 track day, felt so secure on them there and on the road.
Hi, Ive used Road 5's on a GSA and a Multistrada , the problem with them is when they are for 19-17 in wheels they become PR5 Trails which are a softer compound so as I ride 2 up mostly I only get about 3500. 4000 miles before they square off. Ive gone to Conti Road Attack 3 which have done 4000 mile and still look like new on my 1290 Adventure s but offer fantastic grip in all weathers. If they offered the GT compound in the Trail edition I would try them again!! as you say there are a lot of differentials but that is my opinion
Very detailed experience review Shaun. I am up for a new set of rubber on my 2019 Z900 and this kinda swings it for me. Currently under COVID 19 lockdown here in India, but this will be the first thing I do post lockdown. Cheers and Safe riding!
I have the 3rd set of Road 5's mounted, and I have ridden them through rain, over passes and together with my Tracer 700 it feels like a perfect combination, but that's only my opinion. Mine lasts about 10'000 km
As usual a excellent video from,you I changed from a cbr1100xx to a bmws1000xr because of videos from you and cuban,I was looking for another bike due to age both bike and me
Interesting, I’m on my second set of Metzler RoadTec 01s. Been happy with them, especially in the wet, but keep seeing & hearing about these Road 5s so food for thought next time. Enjoy your work. 👍🏍🇦🇺
TheLikeableRider sounds fair, I’m guessing I’ll follow your lead & give them a go as my last rear only gave me 12000, front is still going though. 15000 sounds better.
A guy commented last week that he got over 30,000km out of his Road 5, that's more than double than what I managed. Not sure how accurate that is, but I never heard of such mileage on them.
I just slapped a set on a couple of days ago and find them, smooth, nimble and sticky. They also don’t need very much time to warm up, unlike the Dunlop Sportmax I removed.
right now i ride a 2008 Yamaha FZ1 i have about 3500 mile on the pilot power 5 tires they are ok not all that and in the rain they are iffy. i wanted to get the road pilots but i was on a budget. i might put these on next. thanks for your comment. this is my bike on my other page you can see the pilot power 5 tires new. ruclips.net/video/PcNuE_V2OnM/видео.html
I’ve ordered a KTM 890R due in April . Looking at swapping out the oem tyre to Road 5’s only due to where I live / low speed limits and so want quick warm up times good cold operation . Are you still a fan of these ? Ride safe 🤪
Nice in-depth review Shaun. I’ll have to give them a try as previous versions of the tyre were also highly regarded. Anyway Winter is coming and bike tucked away in its winter palace til next season.
I have a set of Road 5s waiting to go on my Triumph Sprint 1050 when the Bridgestone BT-023s wear out. They are quite new so might be the season after next.
@@thelikeablerider8800 I'd like to fit the MR 5s now but with the Bridgestones pretty much full tread it seems wrong. I don't do much riding in crap weather anyway as I tend to be a fair weather rider and as like you say you tend to take it easy if it's chucking it down or the roads are greasy. My sphincter tightens with the fear of possibly sliding down a wet road. The MR 5s sound like a game changer. I have Pilot 4s on my BB and they're very confidence inspiring. Thanks for replying.
Had mine on for 2000 miles now & absolutely love them, even did donnington park on Wednesday “4 sessions” & only 8 degrees 🥶 but had every confidence in them. Will definitely be buying them from now on & if I can get the mileage you claim to have got then happy days.👍👍👍👍🏍🏍🏍
I also like tyres that do not dictate how and where I should ride my bike. Many of my friends "can't go on the highway"... what? Are the tyres in charge now? That sounds silly to me. I had R3 on my z1000 and now I have R5 on my Tracer GT, they just keep getting better and better.
At the moment I wouldn't want any other tyre on my MT10. Well down my second set and impressed by how well they are lasting. Completely confidence inspiring dry and wet.
I like Dunlop for cheap dry tires but for everything Riding Michelin’s is the way to go! Dunlop suck in the rain or all the sport ones I had did! Sticky as hell on the dry though! And my Metgelers got greasy when they got hot! And it didn’t take much to over heat them and make them greasy! It was like the silica was melting out of the rubber or something!
ALREADY been there done that, but yeah, you said it all, the only thing, be careful these give you that much confidence you might out ride your self, but yeah, I've been riding for 40 years and these Road 5 are amazing, didn't think i'd use all the sidee,,,but i have fuck they're good
my current tiers are still the stock ones, already 23000 more km, front tire still looks good but the rear tire is getting worn out in the middle, plus they are 7 years old now. I just ordered a pair of road 5 yesterday after a bit of research, can not wait to try them.
As a road rider for over 4 decades I'm well aware that modern tyres have more talent than my and most rider's ability. As such, I stick to the Michelin Pilot Road 4 tyres for my 600cc bike as I think the 5's would just be overkill and a lot more money. Coincidentally, I replaced my front tyre two weeks ago, and for me, the best improvement you can make to a tyre is to have fresh tyres!
Nice video mate. I've got Continental Road Attack 2's on my gixer, have to say they're really good. I wanted Road 5's but couldn't stretch to them, but got the conti's for £150 delivered! So far they've been brilliant in wet and dry, and for a bike I commute on all year round the boots need to be good 👍🏻
TheLikeableRider so far about 300 miles, on my first set so no idea how long they will last. Have to say the grip is far better then I thought, even with the cold UK roads I'm able to ride chicken strip free, and the bike feels really planted.
Had a few sets of the pilot road 4 on my XR and mileage was similar to the KTM. Get yourself a set and be sure to let me know how you get on with them.
Advice please guys. I love Pilot Road 4 & 5s. Have then on my other bikes and are great in the wet and acceptable in the dry. Now, I have a new Pirelli Angel GT mk 1 on the rear of my 2017 Triumph Thruxton non R. I’m thinking of going Pilot Road 5 on the front for wet grip. I know you shouldn’t mix tyres but I fancy the extra grip on the front for when it’s wet. Good idea or bad idea?
I thought you went to winter hibernation already lately 😉 Good vid, I've had those on the FJR as a last set before I've sold the bike. I did lost the front massively once on a roundabout on a tar repair while fully loaded and 2 up. Not a pleasant experience. Can't really blame the tyre for that tho, I've lost the front on that one more times than anny other bike regardless the rubber, but I didn't expect that at the moment. Good vid man 👍
Be interested to see how much you can push these on the road. I've got pilot power rs at the moment and I can get them squirming on the road. I wonder if the road 5's would take the same kind of stick
hi,im using tourace tyres on my v strom 650.my problem is terrible road noise at times.depending on wind dirrection ect.i have tinitis and the noise is not always good.would value some feedback on road noise from these tyres.thank you
What kind of tire pressure did you run on your last rear? The same at the track? I only got 8K miles(about 13K KM) but I ran it a little below my bike’s specific recommended psi of 42. I ran 38 to 40. From the videos I have seen Michelin has said run recommended pressures because of the carcass design. I’m not sure of The idea of running lower psi on spirited rides of 38-40. I’d think it squares off faster with lower psi. I’m going to test the grip with stock pressures and see how it feels. I really liked the tire though, I got a 2nd for the rear!
Not sure if you already answered this but how long did they ultimately last you? just installed a road 5 on my rear (yzfr1) I'm hoping to get at least 3k miles out of it.
TheLikeableRider , Michelin says on their website that the pilot 5 and the pilot 5 GT are the same, except the GT is for heavier bikes. I have an FJR1300 and am looking at both the GT and non-GT versions. Thanks for the great review.
ok, now i have a feeling for where you all are in the scheme of things, got a set of road 5, initially impressed, wet grip yeah agree amazing, but the little bit of blurb were michelin say these tyres are not for track,, what they really mean they are for the AVERAGE norm, , have not been any where near a track only commuting , but yeah live southern france, and well, I'm really disappointment from 3 k on they have steadily fallen apart, but I'm told I ride harder than the average bear, so take this into consideraton, if i can get 5 K out of these I will be surprised, since i've worn off the 2nd layer the centre is prettey much falling apart, this is only on an RSV MILLE, admittedly with a GABRO eprom wihich is brilliant, but never more than mid revs, these trying do not like any throttle at full lean, just fucks them any one that disbelieves ,, heha come for a ride ,but bring your money
TheLikeableRider on my Hayabusa I get 8500 ish miles and double on the front. Even then it’s not wore to the wear bars I just have to change them for a tour. Looking forward to the 5’s on the GT. I will say I was impressed with the Angles and that surprised me....
Ok, u love that tyre.... but are u kidding about how long the tyre last? 15000 km? My longest was 7000km with the roadsmart III... i‘ve had a fee tyre like roadtec 01, roadsmart III, pilot 4, angel gt 2 but all of them didn‘t reached my expectation... maybe U drive with 40km/h... :-) i mean your bike has a lot of power that forces your rear tyre! I guess it‘s my bikes faut... the old yamaha xjr 1300 Enjoy the pilot 5
I've got the Power 5's on a 2012 zx14r. 3000 miles so far. Front tire shows very little wear. The rear is flattering a bit! I'd reason it's got about 50% left. Problem though... the bike on these tires has a pretty wicked vibration over speeds of 100 mph. It's been balanced and rebalance and still! The wobble!. Beware of the Power 5.
I am driving them for 32.000 km now. Wear and threath are still fine. Cornering still tight and grippy. They feel a bit square, but not as square as the 4 after 30K. Bought my back tire in Norway and 5 k later my front tire back in Holland (had a puncture on my trip). Front tire seem to wear faster though. All in all a great tire! Think i ll manage 5k more. Than some fresh tires in the spring.
@@thelikeablerider8800 A lot of smooth dutch highways haha. At the moment i drive the most reliable bike i've ever driven. Sadly it has nog soul. It's a Suzuki GSF 1250 S bandit. I have done 70k km now with only one issue. The clutch-switch to start the engine failed. Bought a new one for 5 euro. But i'm saving up for the super adventure 1290. That's how i ended up at your channel. Then i saw your content and subbed. Keep up the great work!
Stock tires they come on bikes ain’t like the after market tire you would get! Like the Dunlop’s they are less rubber and go super quick! But you order the next set from a reputable company and they will go twice as long and you can weight them and see their not the same! It’s a dirty little secret they don’t want us to know! Now if you buy say a 25k Harley you might get the real deal tires but the cheaper sport bikes are what comes with these tires!
Honestly! Unless you're an advanced rider who is good enough to benefit from the extra grip a sport tire will give you, there's really no point in them for the road. I need a tire that will last a long time, and still provide good grip in all conditions, for the road #michelinroad5.
I personally think the road 5 are the worst Pilots to date . Yes they are sticky as ( stick like crap 💩 to a blanket) but my rear was toast after 4500 kms . The best wear I got out of a Pilot was a rear 4 GT and got about 11500kms . The front around 8000kns - scalped out REALLY BAD . The 3 was the best front Pilot I had didn’t sculp to bad and got about 10000kms by memory. Iv run theses tyres on my 1050 Tiger sport , 1130 Benellli and Yamaha TDM 900. I personally think the Michelin roads have know become a sports tyre - not a sports Touring . On my Benellli I’m running the Metzler Roadtec 01 rear and would have to say now it’s the BEST rear grip ( even in wet asphalt) and wears better than the road 5. I’m trying the front road 5 with the Metzler rear but only done around 3000kms but it’s not looking good . I do not know how you can get 13000kms out of a R5 ? maybe our surfaces in Australia are a bit harsher on tyres . My latest go to tyre is the Dunlop Riadsmart 3 the front is fantastic ( in all conditions) so far 7000kms - without much sign of wear - and not sculpting. Yes I know tyres are a personal choice and this is just my option . The
Yeah road surface is obviously a factor amongst many others. Stewth!....a guy messaged me the other day, to tell me he got over 30,000km out of a set of R5!! No idea how that is possible! As I said in the video I did everything with my last set, and they were done. Thanks for letting me know your experiences👍🇬🇧🇦🇺
@@thelikeablerider8800 Nothing special, I made 22000 kms with R5 on a V-strom 650 and 2 track days. Imagine the guy is light on a light motorbike and never brakes.
Would be nice if you talked in miles - km are for jonny foreigner and saves the civilised world form having to do mental calcs everytime you mention a figure. Hope your judgement on tyres is better than the one to wear a mirrored visor at dusk as it gets dark - not clever.
Absolutely transformed the handling on my Mt07, fantastic tyre
17500 km on the rear and 13500 km on the front.
On my second set of Michelin Road 5 now. Honda CB 650 F.
I’m new to motorcycling and my Triumph Tiger 1050 sport had Pirelli Angels on when I first bought it but they where pretty old then. I bought a set of Road 5’s after watching Richy Vida bang on about them so thought I’d try them out. As you said, they are confidence inspiring. A great all rounder and, after my North Coast 500 trip when it pissed down for most of the time, they were brilliant I the wet. 6k in now but definitely will get another set in the spring.
The Angel GT remained unchanged for a good 5 or 6 years, not a great tire! Although they have now brought out the Angel GT II, which might also be worth a look.
Thanks for this video, I totally agree. My new CB500X came with Dunlop Trailmax and they were horrible. Changed them at 3000 miles for Road 5's and it was like a new bike, I was giggling all the way home after fitting. Now got a new F750GS and it has Anakee 3's and they slip like hell on wet muddy Scottish B-roads so about to get them swapped for Road 5's, can't wait. The difference is phenomenal. I don't care about tyre life I care about MY life and want the stickiest tyres available. Cheers.
Amen to that👍😜
As you say personal choice. 9000 miles on my T31 on my xsr 900.love them. Great review.
Cheers Paul👍😜
Like you say, tyres are a feel thing. But grip AND longevity is the holy grail! Only prob I had was on michelin. Cold tyre slides. Pilot power I think they were. Good vid, nice to see you out there 🏍️👍
Cheers Stuart was good to get back out! Had a few very busy weeks and unfortunately wasn't in the right frame of mind to get out and film. The channel slows down a bit over the winter months, but still more to come👍😜
I love them as well driving street triple 2013 and got close to 10k out of them and that’s with sporty riding and commuting every day. And that on Irish roads 😄
just put a new Road 5 on the Trophy SE, its a super sticky and great tire.. of course the Michelin road tires have great mileage too.
Gen 5 VFR800.
About to get a new set after over 2 years, 27 000km on the rear, I got 17 000 out of the front, 99% commuting between 40-80kmh. I live in Cairns where the rain in the wet season is torrential. Never a slip. Crazy durability and excellent grip.
Wow that's some serious mileage! I now have the Super Duke R and am thinking wether to stick a set on, or to stay with a sports tire.
Yamaha Tracer 900 GT in A mode.
I had Michelin Road 5 that did not have grip on dry pavement. It did however grip surprisingly well in the rain.
After riding on the Michelin Power 5 for a day, I'm pleased to say I have good grip all day long. Not once did I get wheel spin. Wheelies, jumps, cornering, high speeds and city traffic manner was all great.
It doesn't have the tread siping that the Road 5 had, so can't expect the wet performance to be as good. Road 5 was horrible, scary with no confidence.
great video just bought the gt version to put on my hayabusa
I really enjoyed Road5. In my Gsxr-750 only lasts 3,000km. Tested and approved.
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Now this sounds mpre realistic. I rarely get more than 3500km on any sports tire myself.
TUBARÃO194 I totally agree with you on wear try a Metzler Roadtec 01 rear and Dunlop Roadsmart 3
Man I still got my stock tires Dunlop 214’s and they got almost 4k Miles on them and they are still good! In anything they need changed for time if anything! You must be hell on tires if you burn up Michelin’s in that low of mileage! That or something wrong some where! Hell i used to race my ninja 750 and it would still do 4k miles on a set of Dunlop’s or Michelin’s! Now I chewed up a Shinto drag tire real quick like 1500 miles but they was racing so burn out and full throttle hits on it!
This sounds more realistic. I've got a gsxr 1000 k6 and I get about 2500 miles out of a sports tyre before it's fuked. Can't see these lasting much longer than that
I love the road 5 just good everywhere on my 1290GT! I used them drag racing at a work fun day,no burnout and took off pretty easy as was nervous on my new bike (2 weeks ownership) and had not been drag racing since i had my first bike 20 years ago. managed a 10.6 @138mph
Drag racing on them! Not heard of anyone doing that👍 another thing to add to the list that they can do.
I just put those tires on my 07 Fjr they really handle the turns and the rain 🌧 really well the best of the best
Just the statement i wanted to see.
You should have got the GT’s if you got a heavy big bike! Yours is a FJR 1300-1400 right?
Great review, what I have found out about Michelin tyres in general is how they wear a lot more even through out their life and at the later stages you get a feeling of the bike not having the sense of balance in slow traffic which i think is the way the front tyres wear to a sharper rad .I had 2 sets of pilot road 4's getting around 8k miles out of each set. Got me a Versys 1000se with Bridgestones on and after 5k miles the back tyre has a prominent flat on it and I am fighting to balance at low speed . Road 5's soon cheers
7500 miles ( just over 12 km ) so far and still got lost of life left , love these tyres . I've not done any track days .
thats amazing.
Last year I bought a Kawasaki Versys 1000 fitted with A41. After a summer of touring through French Brittany, they were worn out. I then bought a pair of Road 5 and my first feeling when I came out of the garage was "how did they remove 30 kgs of weight from my Kawa", the moto was so much easier to ride !
Thank you for sharing your experience with the pr5 as a user. Respect!
Great video!! I watched this after having had a pair of R5s fitted to my 696 Monster and I'm getting really confidant and committed to putting trust in these tires when cornering in the wet in these dark winter months..... Can't believe how many miles you can squeeze out them either!!! Can't wait for the summer now haha x
Hi I know it’s a old video and I agree . I’ve used road 5 180 rear 5k later 3 track days still loads left very good
Just change my bike but can’t see any 200/55/17 for sale rear biggest I’ve seen is 190 .
I had the same trouble getting a 200 rear, had to go with the Power 5 for this bike. I'm back on the s1000xr now and is sporting a beautiful set of Road 6's👍😜
@@thelikeablerider8800 how you getting on with the road 6 ?
Seem to be going down the trap door route of more wet weather tyre side sipes . I love the road 5 but hated the road 3 felt to disconnect. Only went back to Michelin after you and Andy review and spot on total agree . Still on the bike I’m selling tyres 2 years old still loads left would of been bins long ago in the past . They did start to over heat on track on a hot day but gave warring so no nasty surprises.
@@marksmith8663 I haven't noticed any difference in grip, still feel as great as the Road, but I'll be very interested to know if they last a bit longer👍
Welcome back, i have missed your vlogs, Thank you for the review because I hate the stock tires on the Suzuki V-storm. The Bridgestone are ok but shit in the gravel and I need a tire that will be soft enough to not slide around on gravel. Now most of my rides are on pavement but a lot of the corners have gravel in them so I have got a few nervous times and with traction control cranked up to full I still have nerves. I just started riding this summer and now have the bike in storage because it is snowing, Swapped the bike for the snowmobile, lol. Now, who is going on and on!
Thanks for the review, very well done and photographed. Value and love watching your rides, look forward to your next one. Hello from Northern Ontario Canada
Nice to see that my videos are reaching far and wide👍😜
can't decide between Road 5 trail or anakee adventure on my vstrom 650, ride 95% of the time on road.
I have switched to Continental Roadattack 3 from the Road 5 (after 15.000km), from what i can say so far (after another 12.000km), the CRA3 has better Dry Grip - its like glue and i couldn't find the limits of grip, but the Road5 has better wet Grip. Especially towards the end of the tire life, the Road5 wet grip is much better. Since i usually ride in nice weather, i think the CRA3 is the tire for me and after 12.000km i still have 4mm left on the rear center (from 9mm new) on a 210kg bike.
Never tried them myself but sounds like a good tire from what you've said!
@@thelikeablerider8800 Give the CRA3 a try if you get the chance!
Next one ill try will be the Bridgestone T31.
@@BaldurM yeah I'll keep them in mind for sure, great mileage!
Hey Baldur
I have CRA3 on one bike and Road5 on another. I really like both, but I'm really fan of continentals for fast roads.
How do you feel / felt about T31 compared with other 2?
I now moved from CRA3 to S21 and is another level, although I know that they will last less....;)
Cheers
@@TheVelasquez87 hey Pedro, the CRA3's are now almost finished with 15k Kilometers and will bis going on later this year.
I talked to a few people who rode both and it seemed like their opinion was CRA3>T31>Road5. Apparently the T31 is also more stable with a lot of weight (for example when riding with a pillion) and also lasts a bit longer.
Concering my riding style: I drive fast but fluid and i don't heavily push in and out of the corners. Basically Track and Road are seperate. Thats why i get that high milage out of my tires.
On a bike with TC and when pushing the tire to its limits they all probably won't last 6k on the back tire.
Great review, just put a set on my R1 agree with everything you say, have been riding for 40 years and don't hang around, a great tyre.
Shame they don't make a rear big enough to fit my now SDR, otherwise they'd be going back on!
On my second set of Road 5s. Got 13,000kms out of my front and 19,000kms from the rear. I have a Suzuki 1250S. Mainly touring plus one track day. Great tyres for this bike. Had a couple of sets of Metzler M7s previously. Didn’t like them as much, but may have just been the wrong tyre for my bike..
My kinda mileage👍😜
Excellent tyres and got mine on an offer which was even better. Rode in some heavy rain on minor roads with all sorts of crud washed onto the road and no problems at all. About 6k miles on them so far with even wear and plenty of wear left. My bike is low powered which helps to reduce wear.
Great stuff m8
The Michelin pilot road 5 is in deed an excellent Tyre. They came equipping my new BMW 1250 RT, she’s with 12.000kms now, and the tyres still are in very decent condition. Briefly, I’ll need a new set of tyres and I think I’ll repeat this option. Very reliable and very resistant tyre 👌
I'm currently on the Road 6's now, apparently they'll last even longer
I got about 7k km on the front and 5-6k km on the rear on my Shiver 750....the Angel GT (1st Gen) was done at 4k km with a worser performance AND A2 restriction. But just as you....I come back over and over again to the Road 5😁 90% of my riding is done on twisty roads in Upper Austria.
Im used pirelli Angel ST on my z1000, i can get 15k kilometers before i change a new set. Is almost same as michelin pilot road 3 i fit in twice to my z1000. Definitely would like to try michelin pilot road 5 after this.
Thank you for excellent review. I will go with this tyre for Multistrada.
You're more than welcome, I'm glad it helped👍😜
Good for you taking a rest! It's quality not quantity I like to watch. Totally agree with you, fitted 5's to my S1R and have done 1 track day, felt so secure on them there and on the road.
What more does one need? This tire will do it all.....and well!
Good review. Just about to change out the supercorsas on my street triple. Will now go the Road 5 route after hearing positive things
Let me know how you get on with them👍😜
Hi, Ive used Road 5's on a GSA and a Multistrada , the problem with them is when they are for 19-17 in wheels they become PR5 Trails which are a softer compound so as I ride 2 up mostly I only get about 3500. 4000 miles before they square off. Ive gone to Conti Road Attack 3 which have done 4000 mile and still look like new on my 1290 Adventure s but offer fantastic grip in all weathers. If they offered the GT compound in the Trail edition I would try them again!! as you say there are a lot of differentials but that is my opinion
Heard good things about the Conti's but have yet to try them👍😜
I loved the Pilot 4 and will grab the 5s when the Pirelli Angel GTs wear out. The 4s were great in the wet.
Welcome back! Michelins everytime for me to 👍
Mate, hugely appreciate the review. Seen yours and Andy's review as well, I reckon I'm sold on them for the next set on the GS. Nicely done
You're very welcome Brett, and glad it helped✌😜
Cool just in time for my Cdn snow to come off the roads . Thanks
Very detailed experience review Shaun. I am up for a new set of rubber on my 2019 Z900 and this kinda swings it for me. Currently under COVID 19 lockdown here in India, but this will be the first thing I do post lockdown. Cheers and Safe riding!
Cool! Let me know how you get on with them
Great vid! I'll be trying them out later this year!
Hope you like them👍😜
I have the 3rd set of Road 5's mounted, and I have ridden them through rain, over passes and together with my Tracer 700 it feels like a perfect combination, but that's only my opinion. Mine lasts about 10'000 km
Not surprised they last longer with you bud! They're probably gone on the side walls first with you right?....what with aaaaaallll those passes👍😜
I have them now and it’s time to change. Will buy another pair of them. S1000XR
As usual a excellent video from,you I changed from a cbr1100xx to a bmws1000xr because of videos from you and cuban,I was looking for another bike due to age both bike and me
Cool, thanks!
Putting them on my 17 gsxr 1k . i feel a little better after your review. Ty...
Awesome! Glad it helped👍😜
Keep us updated on how you get on. I've got pilot power rs on my Gixxer now but I'm looking to change to these
Interesting, I’m on my second set of Metzler RoadTec 01s. Been happy with them, especially in the wet, but keep seeing & hearing about these Road 5s so food for thought next time. Enjoy your work. 👍🏍🇦🇺
Don't get me wrong the RoadTec are a good tire, but didn't get the mileage that the Road 5 give!
TheLikeableRider sounds fair, I’m guessing I’ll follow your lead & give them a go as my last rear only gave me 12000, front is still going though. 15000 sounds better.
A guy commented last week that he got over 30,000km out of his Road 5, that's more than double than what I managed. Not sure how accurate that is, but I never heard of such mileage on them.
Going to give these a go on my next tyre change.
Let me know how you get on with them👍😜
Best tyres I’ve ever owned. 👍🇬🇧🏴
Cracking!
Same here just fitted a Set to my r6 she's a whole different bike 😈
Ideal for commuting,
Mark McDonald Ja!
Just ordered my second set 16K out of my first set.
I just slapped a set on a couple of days ago and find them, smooth, nimble and sticky. They also don’t need very much time to warm up, unlike the Dunlop Sportmax I removed.
right now i ride a 2008 Yamaha FZ1 i have about 3500 mile on the pilot power 5 tires they are ok not all that and in the rain they are iffy. i wanted to get the road pilots but i was on a budget. i might put these on next. thanks for your comment. this is my bike on my other page you can see the pilot power 5 tires new. ruclips.net/video/PcNuE_V2OnM/видео.html
I’ve ordered a KTM 890R due in April . Looking at swapping out the oem tyre to Road 5’s only due to where I live / low speed limits and so want quick warm up times good cold operation . Are you still a fan of these ? Ride safe 🤪
Yes indeed but I'm now on the 2020 SDR, and unfortunately they don't do a 200 rear in the road 5, so I'm now on the power 5👍😜
Nice in-depth review Shaun. I’ll have to give them a try as previous versions of the tyre were also highly regarded. Anyway Winter is coming and bike tucked away in its winter palace til next season.
Yeah give them a shot👍 mine stays on the road through winter. Can be lucky and still get sunny winter days, cold but still good to ride.
I have a set of Road 5s waiting to go on my Triumph Sprint 1050 when the Bridgestone BT-023s wear out. They are quite new so might be the season after next.
Let me know how you get on! Had a set of the 4s in my Tiger 4 years ago it so, and got similar mileage.
@@thelikeablerider8800 I'd like to fit the MR 5s now but with the Bridgestones pretty much full tread it seems wrong. I don't do much riding in crap weather anyway as I tend to be a fair weather rider and as like you say you tend to take it easy if it's chucking it down or the roads are greasy. My sphincter tightens with the fear of possibly sliding down a wet road. The MR 5s sound like a game changer. I have Pilot 4s on my BB and they're very confidence inspiring. Thanks for replying.
Not sure if there’s better tyres out there but they’d have to be damn awesome to beat the Road 5’s!
Had mine on for 2000 miles now & absolutely love them, even did donnington park on Wednesday “4 sessions” & only 8 degrees 🥶 but had every confidence in them. Will definitely be buying them from now on & if I can get the mileage you claim to have got then happy days.👍👍👍👍🏍🏍🏍
The mileage is one of the main factors for me! Grip is great and they go on forever! Nothing else I've tried even comes close to such mileage!
I also like tyres that do not dictate how and where I should ride my bike. Many of my friends "can't go on the highway"... what? Are the tyres in charge now? That sounds silly to me. I had R3 on my z1000 and now I have R5 on my Tracer GT, they just keep getting better and better.
Oh great! Do let me know how you get on with them long term, be interested to hear what others think. I think in general most find them very good!
At the moment I wouldn't want any other tyre on my MT10. Well down my second set and impressed by how well they are lasting. Completely confidence inspiring dry and wet.
Amen sir......Amen!
I like Dunlop for cheap dry tires but for everything Riding Michelin’s is the way to go! Dunlop suck in the rain or all the sport ones I had did! Sticky as hell on the dry though! And my Metgelers got greasy when they got hot! And it didn’t take much to over heat them and make them greasy! It was like the silica was melting out of the rubber or something!
@@tammyforbes2101 did they show blue/ purple-ish color on the side walls?
Cheers mate. Due new rear for my Triumph ST1050.
ALREADY been there done that, but yeah, you said it all, the only thing, be careful these give you that much confidence you might out ride your self, but yeah, I've been riding for 40 years and these Road 5 are amazing, didn't think i'd use all the sidee,,,but i have fuck they're good
Great video and love my P5's
Thank you Joe, glad we're on the same page👍😜
Have it on Honda cb1000r sc60 and I am happy with it.
Great stuff
Power 3 is cheaper. So is the power 3 a better value than the power 5? Is the 5 way better than the 3?
Agree with you on all points, superb tyres I love em👍
Cheers Paul! They really are a great tire
Great video . Will be giving them a go next season. Very impressive mileage. 👍
Yeah they go on and on👍😜
my current tiers are still the stock ones, already 23000 more km, front tire still looks good but the rear tire is getting worn out in the middle, plus they are 7 years old now. I just ordered a pair of road 5 yesterday after a bit of research, can not wait to try them.
Those are some lovely roads!
Germany is a great place to ride!
As a road rider for over 4 decades I'm well aware that modern tyres have more talent than my and most rider's ability. As such, I stick to the Michelin Pilot Road 4 tyres for my 600cc bike as I think the 5's would just be overkill and a lot more money.
Coincidentally, I replaced my front tyre two weeks ago, and for me, the best improvement you can make to a tyre is to have fresh tyres!
Had a few sets of the pilot road 4 was also a great tire, but the 5 give me even more confidence
Nice video mate. I've got Continental Road Attack 2's on my gixer, have to say they're really good. I wanted Road 5's but couldn't stretch to them, but got the conti's for £150 delivered! So far they've been brilliant in wet and dry, and for a bike I commute on all year round the boots need to be good 👍🏻
I've heard they're good, what mileage do you get out of them?
TheLikeableRider so far about 300 miles, on my first set so no idea how long they will last.
Have to say the grip is far better then I thought, even with the cold UK roads I'm able to ride chicken strip free, and the bike feels really planted.
Seen some gnarly disintegrations on the new road attacks..
Loving the intro... Cowboy music by a Pom living in Germany...
Am I missing something here? 🤣
What can I say! I worked in Nashville for a few months, and was hooked😂
Good stuff. I'd like to see videos of very experienced riders giving thoughts on Battlax S22's vs Pilot Power 5's
I've just used a set of the S22 and now have the Power 5 on, but I've not had chance to get out much on the Power 5 as yet. Video is to come for sure!
I have a set coming. I do "track days" every time I go to town....lol.
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Great video, quite scenic wherever this is... Appreciate the review. Thoughts on road 5 Trail?
Haven't tried the Road 5 trail! not the most ideal tire for the Super Duke!
Nice one Shaun definitely going to put a st on the XR keep safe bud 👍👍
Had a few sets of the pilot road 4 on my XR and mileage was similar to the KTM. Get yourself a set and be sure to let me know how you get on with them.
TheLikeableRider will do a bit of a cheeky long shot looks like three of us are going to go to Sachsen ring in June r u going by chance bud
@@dalehawkes1594 nothing planned but I'll be riding to the uk in July so probably not
Thanx for the info and the nice views...but I missed the tire?
Advice please guys. I love Pilot Road 4 & 5s. Have then on my other bikes and are great in the wet and acceptable in the dry. Now, I have a new Pirelli Angel GT mk 1 on the rear of my 2017 Triumph Thruxton non R. I’m thinking of going Pilot Road 5 on the front for wet grip. I know you shouldn’t mix tyres but I fancy the extra grip on the front for when it’s wet. Good idea or bad
idea?
I wouldn't personally, plus that's illegal here!😆
I thought you went to winter hibernation already lately 😉
Good vid, I've had those on the FJR as a last set before I've sold the bike. I did lost the front massively once on a roundabout on a tar repair while fully loaded and 2 up. Not a pleasant experience. Can't really blame the tyre for that tho, I've lost the front on that one more times than anny other bike regardless the rubber, but I didn't expect that at the moment.
Good vid man 👍
Yeah I still ride in winter, can be lucky and still get nice weather, cold but nice.
@@thelikeablerider8800 there is no bad weather, only badly dressed riders 😉
Same here I ride till my nuts freeze off 🤣🤣
Be interested to see how much you can push these on the road. I've got pilot power rs at the moment and I can get them squirming on the road. I wonder if the road 5's would take the same kind of stick
hi,im using tourace tyres on my v strom 650.my problem is terrible road noise at times.depending on wind dirrection ect.i have tinitis and the noise is not always good.would value some feedback on road noise from these tyres.thank you
No noise with these Peter👍😜
@@thelikeablerider8800 thanks :)
What kind of tire pressure did you run on your last rear? The same at the track? I only got 8K miles(about 13K KM) but I ran it a little below my bike’s specific recommended psi of 42. I ran 38 to 40. From the videos I have seen Michelin has said run recommended pressures because of the carcass design. I’m not sure of The idea of running lower psi on spirited rides of 38-40. I’d think it squares off faster with lower psi. I’m going to test the grip with stock pressures and see how it feels.
I really liked the tire though, I got a 2nd for the rear!
I normally run the rear between 40-42 for the road, and kept the same for the track
just changed mine. currently at 100km.
Previous tire was a Battlax S20 and i have got 18000km out of them. i assume Road 5 would give me more!
That goes to show how we are all different! I had a set of the S20 and they were done at around 8000km.
@@thelikeablerider8800 but 18000km within 7months xD 👍👍
Not sure if you already answered this but how long did they ultimately last you? just installed a road 5 on my rear (yzfr1) I'm hoping to get at least 3k miles out of it.
I ended up getting about 8500 miles on both front and rear tires, but like I'd said they would have done more without the track day👍
With the release of the new XR, would you consider doing a 2020 XR review comparing your previous experience? Cheers !
Yeah for sure! My local dealer probably won't have a demo bike until March April time, but I'll definitely have a bash!
Good review SOLD
Thanks Barry glad you enjoyed it✌😜
Have u tryed the michlen road 5 gt version ? I owned the road 4 gt's and they lasted 15d km
I no haven't and probably wouldn't to be honest, obviously a harder compound on the gt's and would be slightly less grippy.
TheLikeableRider , Michelin says on their website that the pilot 5 and the pilot 5 GT are the same, except the GT is for heavier bikes. I have an FJR1300 and am looking at both the GT and non-GT versions. Thanks for the great review.
Is the GT not a harder compound, or maybe they've made it a bit more rigid, to deal with the heavier bikes?
i love mine on my speedy
Would this be too much tire for a KTM Duke 250?
I can't find the Metzeler M5 locally, or the other recommended ones..
No not at all, give them a bash🤪
@@thelikeablerider8800 thanks for the reply!
Fab video :-) tks. May I ask, I'm general, how many punctures do u have a year average? Tks :-)
I'm lucky I hardly get any, not had one in the last 2 or 3 years
ok, now i have a feeling for where you all are in the scheme of things, got a set of road 5, initially impressed, wet grip yeah agree amazing, but the little bit of blurb were michelin say these tyres are not for track,, what they really mean they are for the AVERAGE norm, , have not been any where near a track only commuting , but yeah live southern france, and well, I'm really disappointment from 3 k on they have steadily fallen apart, but I'm told I ride harder than the average bear, so take this into consideraton, if i can get 5 K out of these I will be surprised, since i've worn off the 2nd layer the centre is prettey much falling apart, this is only on an RSV MILLE, admittedly with a GABRO eprom wihich is brilliant, but never more than mid revs, these trying do not like any throttle at full lean, just fucks them any one that disbelieves ,, heha come for a ride ,but bring your money
Good vid, thanks
My angles at 5500 miles look like my Busa’s pilot road 3’s at 7500 miles. I will be buying the PR 5’s when it’s time 👍
Cool! Let me know how you get on with them, I'd be interested to know what mileage others get from them.
TheLikeableRider on my Hayabusa I get 8500 ish miles and double on the front. Even then it’s not wore to the wear bars I just have to change them for a tour. Looking forward to the 5’s on the GT. I will say I was impressed with the Angles and that surprised me....
Hows it on offroads
I've never taken it off road, being designed for the road and all!
Oh I got a pair and they only fit the rear the wrong way round 😝
Sweet jesus!🤦♂️😂
Ok, u love that tyre.... but are u kidding about how long the tyre last?
15000 km? My longest was 7000km with the roadsmart III... i‘ve had a fee tyre like roadtec 01, roadsmart III, pilot 4, angel gt 2 but all of them didn‘t reached my expectation... maybe U drive with 40km/h... :-) i mean your bike has a lot of power that forces your rear tyre!
I guess it‘s my bikes faut... the old yamaha xjr 1300
Enjoy the pilot 5
No I'm not kidding with 15,000km and wasnt expecting it tbh honest, with such a powerful bike!
Jonas Walther you should readly try Michelin, they last longer.
To get 15000 km out of a tyre you can't be riding a bike hard. You must be grannying the throttle everywhere
Done 3 trackdays on my Road 5's :-)
Its plenty good enough for that👍😜
Me 2, they are Pretty good with the slick part on the side
Ever tried the Power 5?
No not given them a bash
I've got the Power 5's on a 2012 zx14r. 3000 miles so far. Front tire shows very little wear. The rear is flattering a bit! I'd reason it's got about 50% left. Problem though... the bike on these tires has a pretty wicked vibration over speeds of 100 mph. It's been balanced and rebalance and still! The wobble!. Beware of the Power 5.
They must be good if they can stand "The Full Pasty" !
It's the only way to go👍😜
I am driving them for 32.000 km now. Wear and threath are still fine. Cornering still tight and grippy. They feel a bit square, but not as square as the 4 after 30K.
Bought my back tire in Norway and 5 k later my front tire back in Holland (had a puncture on my trip). Front tire seem to wear faster though.
All in all a great tire! Think i ll manage 5k more. Than some fresh tires in the spring.
Wow that's some serious mileage!! How did you manage and, and on what bike?
@@thelikeablerider8800
A lot of smooth dutch highways haha. At the moment i drive the most reliable bike i've ever driven. Sadly it has nog soul. It's a Suzuki GSF 1250 S bandit. I have done 70k km now with only one issue. The clutch-switch to start the engine failed. Bought a new one for 5 euro.
But i'm saving up for the super adventure 1290. That's how i ended up at your channel. Then i saw your content and subbed.
Keep up the great work!
Stock tires they come on bikes ain’t like the after market tire you would get! Like the Dunlop’s they are less rubber and go super quick! But you order the next set from a reputable company and they will go twice as long and you can weight them and see their not the same! It’s a dirty little secret they don’t want us to know! Now if you buy say a 25k Harley you might get the real deal tires but the cheaper sport bikes are what comes with these tires!
What jacket is that?
Thanks
It's the Revit Urban Sand👍
Thanks to this, and a couple other reviews I'm switching from the Angel's to the Road 5's. Cheers from Louisiana! P[>
Awesome! Let me know how you get on👍😜
The fine "plefarer"
Good vid. Unless your finding the limit of your tyre why bother wasting money on expensive short lived sports tyres.👍
Honestly! Unless you're an advanced rider who is good enough to benefit from the extra grip a sport tire will give you, there's really no point in them for the road. I need a tire that will last a long time, and still provide good grip in all conditions, for the road #michelinroad5.
Agreed. That's why I'm half way through my second set of Road 5's.
I personally think the road 5 are the worst Pilots to date . Yes they are sticky as ( stick like crap 💩 to a blanket) but my rear was toast after 4500 kms . The best wear I got out of a Pilot was a rear 4 GT and got about 11500kms . The front around 8000kns - scalped out REALLY BAD . The 3 was the best front Pilot I had didn’t sculp to bad and got about 10000kms by memory. Iv run theses tyres on my 1050 Tiger sport , 1130 Benellli and Yamaha TDM 900. I personally think the Michelin roads have know become a sports tyre - not a sports Touring . On my Benellli I’m running the Metzler Roadtec 01 rear and would have to say now it’s the BEST rear grip ( even in wet asphalt) and wears better than the road 5. I’m trying the front road 5 with the Metzler rear but only done around 3000kms but it’s not looking good . I do not know how you can get 13000kms out of a R5 ? maybe our surfaces in Australia are a bit harsher on tyres . My latest go to tyre is the Dunlop Riadsmart 3 the front is fantastic ( in all conditions) so far 7000kms - without much sign of wear - and not sculpting.
Yes I know tyres are a personal choice and this is just my option . The
Yeah road surface is obviously a factor amongst many others. Stewth!....a guy messaged me the other day, to tell me he got over 30,000km out of a set of R5!! No idea how that is possible! As I said in the video I did everything with my last set, and they were done. Thanks for letting me know your experiences👍🇬🇧🇦🇺
TheLikeableRider no worries mate
@@thelikeablerider8800 Nothing special, I made 22000 kms with R5 on a V-strom 650 and 2 track days. Imagine the guy is light on a light motorbike and never brakes.
Would be nice if you talked in miles - km are for jonny foreigner and saves the civilised world form having to do mental calcs everytime you mention a figure. Hope your judgement on tyres is better than the one to wear a mirrored visor at dusk as it gets dark - not clever.
Cheers dad!!!!