Surf Simply's Quick Tips: Back Foot Position
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
- In this weeks episode of Surf Simply's new Quick Tips series, Surf Simply Founder Ru Hill talks through the importance of the back foot position, and how and when to use it for maximum effect.
Written by Surf Simply Founder Ru Hill, and edited by Surf Simply Partner Jessie Carnes.
Great stuff and not emphasized enough. You hear more about "looking where you want to go" and using your arms, but not enough about shifting your foot back over the fins for carving turns. This is also why people say they can't turn their longboard and then drop down too soon. Smh.
Hey Diamonds! I could not agree with you more about the reason why people think they cant turn the board! It's all about hip and feet movement! - Head Coach of Surf Simply
So true, been told to look where I want to go, did that, nothing happened :)
I've been surfing for a while now but havent been paying enough attention to this! I have that problem of tipping over (mainly on my bigger boards and 6ft softtop, so harder to turn) and the moment you started talking about that 'tipping over' I realised thats exactly what I'm doing wrong, next session I'm gonna focus on just this. Sick vids lately!
Hey Mark! We are so happy you like the videos!!! Yes, usually the longer the board the more the back foot has to come back! Have fun practicing ! -Head Coach of Surf Simply
The surfboard button controls is simply genius. Thank you
This was the best explained video on RUclips
By far the best tip on RUclips! As an educator your micro lessons with visuals are excellent teaching tools!
Great tip thank you. Surfing for 40 years now and this is something that my body knew but my mind didn't. Cool to be able to make that connection
Love these informative tutorials 👍
Keep’em coming🤙
Hey sniper, we are glad you like the videos! Head Coach of Surf Simply
Best surf channel on youtube! Clear, straight to the point explanations and based on physics ! Thank you!
Thank you for the kind words Ricardo :) Coach Will
I first heard you on the "Surf Mastery" podcast maybe a couple of years ago and have been a fan since and I recommended your content to anyone I meet who is serious about improving their surfing. It's really to hear intelligent people speak about a topic that they obviously know very well and have put a lot of time and thought into, especially when that topic is surfing. Thanks 🤙
Thank you Steven, thats very kind of you to say!
Thanks so much Steven. I really appreciate that.
I’ve been following you guys for years. Thanks for the uploads. You guys help of new guys out a lot.
I am loving this channel and SURFING! Surfing and its principle are to me like Life, like when one is in the FLOW OF LIFE! Catching waves, paddling, waiting, lots of work for a few seconds of flow... Just like every day Life!! Thanks for all the wisdom!
Slater example was perfect.
this channel is such a gem. I wish I had this 20 years agooooo
Amazing guys, thank you!
It’s our pleasure!
Massive video. I really like the way you teach, I feel like it's the clearest!
Thank you very much, dramatically improving my surf thanks to you I don't need to watch anywhere else!
Hey Pablo ! The surfing to the targets video will be coming out soon.Probably in the next couple weeks. Im glad you like the videos! -Head Coach of Surf Simply
@@Jessiecarnes0622 then I'm looking forward to it! 😁👍🏼
Hi Rue, Thank you for another great tip. I have enjoyed learning from all of your clear & informative tips from Whiteboard Wednesday. Great to see more of your videos.Ive only been surfing for just over a year although I have dramatically improved now. Feeling much more relaxed, not rushing to catch waves. A lot more flow, especially now with surfskate training techniques to simulate surfing. With so much to learn & happening to catch & ride waves I know that I don’t put my back foot back. I’ve written it on my board and still don’t do it. I’ll keep practicing to hopefully one day get it before a bottom turn. One day I’ll also get to organise to attend a Surf Simply retreat. I Can’t wait!! Thanks Again, Steve
Great to hear how excited you are Steve, and that source focused on drills to help progress. Good luck and keep us updated!
That was the best explanation ever.
I was doing exactly what you said today... didn't even join the dots as to why I kept digging in the rail and not turn fast enough... pretty confident I will report a definite change tomorrow! Thanks for the tip
Let us know how it goes Peter.
Another very good video. Expertise delivered with clarity and simplicity.
Thank you very much. Well articulated and explained. I cannot wait to try this while being more aware of my foot position
Amazing tip, my foot never slipped off on the back!
Barbarian Days on the shelf! I hope you loved that book as much as I did! Oh, and thanks for the video, it was great as always! Keep it up!
We love that book! We had the pleasure of interviewing Bill Finnegan not too long ago, here is the link if you’re interested: surfsimply.com/podcast/ep-23-finnigan-interview/
@@SurfSimply Thank you so much! I'll definitely check it!!
Thx so much! Great tips!
So good! Keep em coming 🤙🏾
Dam this channel is amazing.
I had a feeling something was wrong with the way turns sometimes feel and I was starting to think about wrong back foot placement.
This video made a lot of sense and made the approach clear.
As I said, it was pretty obvious to me that my back foot is probably too forward and the key to the problem is in the approach to it.
I started working on my pop up again, planning to jump farther back and it would probably make me a lot slower which would also ruin future turns.
Thanks man! You already helped me a lot :)
Wow, great instruction, thank you.
great video and instruction and wipeouts point out errrors clearly .. must be a great place to hone skills (SS)
These videos are soooo helpful! THANKS
It’s our pleasure Liiso, thanks for watching!
omg I never tought of how far my back foot was ...thank you so much ...I learned to do the snaps by feel but I am normally very unconsistant ,so I am gonna think about it next time
Thank you so much for your time and your great contents. I've been surfing for a while a never understood that by myself. I experienced falling during my bottom turns, exactly the same way showed in the video... Sometimes my board was kind of slipping in the water. I thought it was because of the size/ shape of the fins ! I'm going to try and adjust the position of my back foot while surfing. Usually, my feet stay at the same place after the pop-up and for the entire wave.
Keep on helping us having fun !
Maxence (France)
Very well explained and shown with examples. Great tips to put into practice
Oh my God, so good to see the instructors unceremoniously wipeout like the rest of us mortals. Thanks! 🙌
surely a purposeful, instructional wipe-out! ; )
PRU, u legend! Thanks mate. This has been the thing that I’ve been wondering a lot about! Esp why it is my board seems to flip if I push too hard to force a turn or bog a rail. Would love to come visit u guys at simply surf. Looks like an awesome setup!
Hey Dan ! I'm glad you like the videos, we look forward to your future visit with us ! -Head Coach of Surf Simply
Nice and simple tips! Love it!
Hey Steven I’m intermediate shortboarder and when I pop up my back foot naturally lands right in front of the traction pad, even when I adjust my back foot to the back my front foot will be too far up. so should I just practice popping up with both feet near the back right away or should I just readjust both feet every time? Thanks I love your channel it’s helped me so much
I think this is the typical most common case for intermediates. Same happens to me, and I totally agree, more than only moving the back foot right before the turn (which is quite difficult) we should try to land with both feet 10/15cm more towards the back. Cheers from Argentina.
Fantastic advice great little video!
Awesome advice!! Really helps 🏄🤙
Thank you very much!I will try tomorrow!
thanks bro i think ive had yhis problem the last 10 years but i dont live near a surf beach so i only get to go out every so often and in 10 years i go a year sometimes or more without having a surf. wasnt like that before kids i was surfing minimum 2 times a week pretty much. aw good old days lol
Super helpful. Thanks!!
Ru what is your opinion regarding the correlation between riding a surfboard and riding a skateboard (smoothstar/carver). Do you feel there is value is riding the skateboard to develop surf skills? Does the sensation and the skills developed cross pollinate to surfing? Thanks !
I'm not Ru, but can provide my experience. I learned to surf entirely on my own, which I do not recommend, but that is for another story. After a few years of just surfing, I was around an intermediate level. I learned about carver skateboards, and having way more places to ride it than surf, picked one up. After literally 2 months of riding, I went from a beginner intermediate to intermediate/advanced then even advanced with very little extra surf time in the water. The key to make carvers and similar skateboards useful is to understand a few things. The big idea is that you have to ride the skateboard like a surfboard, and not like a skateboard or how you always have been skating. I studied the pros closely, and performed drills that closely mimic their turns/maneuvers. The way we naturally turn on a skateboard and on a surfboard are quite different. From watching surf simply's videos or simply through your own experience, you've probably realized that we turn surfboards using our rear foot. I've skateboarded for years, and feel, at least for many if not most of us, we turn our skateboards with our front foot. This huge fundamental difference is one of the keys to training with a carver. I began doing everything I understood to do on a surfboard, on the carver. Essentially, driving with your back foot. This changed the way I carved, initiated turns, followed through on turns, finished them. My body movements began to more closely follow the ones we do on surfboards. I found 3-4 ft tall cement slopes that became a physical "concrete" wave to simulate everything, including dropping in to bottom turns. Steep slopes are great for getting a feel for a vertical section, and gentle slopes great for practicing wider turns, cutbacks, etc. I practiced both frontside and backside like this. I quickly even learned more advanced techniques like how to unweight my rear foot on a turn to simulate getting the rear fins loose off the top of a wave. I can't believe how much better I got. In literal months. It's a complete game changer if you have the analytical mind to understand some subtle but important differences. After teaching several people on carvers how to train for surfing on them, i noticed how unnatural it is for learners to really drive with their rear foot. Carvers are so easy to carve that it is easy to jump on them and carve well, but not in a way that trains surfing. I think it is completely possible to carve well on carver in a way that provides little to no actual translative benefit to surfing. With that said, for at least some people, carvers and similar will accelerate training and skill, maybe even faster than surfing at your local break. There is way more to carvers and cross training that I can go into than this, but this comment is already long. Godspeed
@@resistemptation4 Thanks for taking the time for the detailed response. You are right in saying that its not just a case of jumping on a Carver or Smoothstar and skate. I too have noticed a distinct change in how I behave on the water since using my Smoothstar. First of all, you do develop a greater feeling of comfort in just performing the maneuvers or attempting to, on a repetitive basis, secondly this seems in my view to give you greater confidence in surfing generally and encourages you to just have a go when you out on the water. The greatest down fall of surfing, and the rate at which you progress comes down to the number of waves you catch or have the opportunity to catch unfortunately. This is where the wave pools will come in to play if you have one locally. Repetition, practice and patience are the keys to success.
Love the door analogy
Thank you!
Thank you!
you are welcome!!!
And thank you for watching !!! -Head Coach of Surf Simply
Very helpful. Thank you.
Thank you 🙏
No worries, we enjoy making these fun tutorials ! - Head Coach of Surf Simply
Thank you, that was helpful!
Legend!!!! Nice vid!! Epic
Tks Ru
I can't get the back foot ankle flexing enough, do you have any advice on exercises/ways to improve the ankle flexibility for surfing please?
Stretch it out rotate it constantly shake it out before you want to go for a big maneuver there’s a comp where I forget who but some pro shakes his ankle out before he paddles for this wave that he stomps a big air on I think but the point is he was warming it up keep it warm keep it loose just like your arms don’t let it get locked up
Hey Rue, how are you? I've been binge watching your channel because I really want to surf.
I'm older now and I'm nearly 300 pounds.
What board should a 6 foot 300 lbs person buy and, is it possible to surf in this shape?
Thanks so much, really hope you answer it.
Obs. I'm down to body board if I can't surf
Yes you can surf! Beginner surfers should always start with a big board (8ft softtop often) and because effective surfboard size depends on your size you'd want to get a 9ft. Bigger boards = more waves = quicker learning! Surfing might even help you get in shape. But remember to have fun! Thats the most important part, even if its hard to stand up at first, just enjoy it laying down then slowly progress to standing.
I still love to ride big softtops, especially in smaller or mellow waves so never feel ashamed about your board size or feel like you should 'size down' to be cooler.
Good luck!
@@tankimarkgraaf thank you so much and thank you for the tips.
I do hope that surfing may help me lose weight but I really just want to have a really good time, like you said.
Thanks again
Hey, I typically ride my board as a twin fin, as that’s the most popular fin setup in my area that works well, does that mean my foot should also be further forward to properly engage the fins and not overpower the tail?
Thanks for the tips, very helpful. Can you do a Quick Tips on proper paddling technique to get into waves?
Great suggestion Vincent!
Why doesn't this channel have 1 million subscribers? hahaha
We’re working on it Mateus! Thanks for your support!
Very useful tip, very well explained.
Thanks Alessandro!
I've got a question, I'm an intermidiate and when I surf small waves i feel like I have never been on a surfboard, hardly pull turns and struggle with proper take off. On the other hand, when swell is more consistent I take off easily, and I can pull turns, is that a normal pattern or there's something wrong with me??
It might be that you need a higher volume surfboard for when the waves get small. With more surface area of a bigger board, you can generate more lift and less drag so ultimate travel faster (which is hard to do in smaller waves) so having a larger board for smaller waves is important.
@@SurfSimply thanks for the answer🤙🤙🤙looking forward your new footage!!
Fantastic tips. My question is, when you’re moving your back foot closer to the tail, are you also inching your front foot backwards as well? Or does your front foot stay planted and your overall stance just gets wider as your back foot moves?
Hi Robert, it depends on the length of the surfboard. Shorter boards make it easier to maintain a regular with between the feet by just moving the back foot only, where as on a longboard, for a comfortable and stable stance it is likely having to move both feet in order to access the controls at the rear. Try it on dry land and see where our foot width remains comfortable when moving the back foot. Your height/ leg length and board length will alter them personally.
Can you comment if this also applies for getting sharp bottom turns? Or will having the back foot too far back cause you to slow down too much? Thanks for the great video!
You’ve almost answered you’re own question Jim. Ideally we want to only have just enough weight back to not catch the nose through a b’turn, as our speed is driven by maintaining rail length in the water through the turn. But the backfoot back will give you more of a option and quicker response should you need more weight back at any moment.
Can't wait for the vid of position on board. Because i dont exactly know where i need to stand on the board while im catching a wave
Its called the sweet spot depending on the your surfboard length and design. Some are abit forward some are abit back ward. Its trial and eror. As long as you dont tip over, step abit forward to go faster or backward to slowdown if you are to fast..
The best set of surfing videos I've ever seen. Cheers. Im trying to organise video of myself for online coaching. Until then a question for you. I grew up skateboarding where the front foot is the steering wheel, and I kept the same stance when I started surfing. This means my dominant foot is forward and my weaker, clumsy, left leg is back. Been surfing too long to change stance now. But I still can't pivot turn a mal. Any tips for someone in this situation? Thanks a lot.
Use the white water waves for high repetition to learn a new skill. If the board isn't turning how you expect it to then we can narrow it down to weight position, back foot position, too tall with a lack of stability, or upper body is not rotating with the turn. Hopefully this will provide you some data to work from!
@@SurfSimply Thanks a lot. You guys analyse things so clearly. I wish I'd had this advice when I started surfing years ago.
Great Videos !!!
Thanks for the fantastic explanations. I have one question.
My foot gets stuck in the paraffin when I try to move on the surfboard. I can't move my foot. I have to raise my foot a little to avoid friction, correct? It is different from the skateboard that we push the foot through the sandpaper.
Hi Rafael, you may have to loft your foot up a small amount. Using your hips to transfer a small weight off the foot is useful. We have a video on hip movement that might help: ruclips.net/video/hU-KGmToBlM/видео.html
Ru, can I ask, does that mean on a short board the back foot over the back fin of a thruster? What if over the front two. Is that back enough
Hey Dan ! When I am on my short board I have 3 different variations of where my back foot goes. front of the traction pad for drawn out turns, middle of the traction pad for cutbacks, and back on the kicker for really sharp turns like fins out or a deep bottom turns. So as long as it's back on the traction pad and close to the kicker of the traction pad it should be enough. But play around with different variations. -Head Coach of Surf Simply
@@Jessiecarnes0622 Doesn't having your back foot at the end of the traction pad slow you down in a deep bottom turn?
Hi
I couldn’t finde the video „surfing to the targets“.
ruclips.net/video/bU7v6OxreEo/видео.html
my back foot stepped off the tail and i snapped my mcl on my front leg
Ouch!