The Story of SONIC -16 - A Lost Sega Genesis Game - A Sega History Documentary

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    In today's video we go back and look at the history of Sonic 16, an unreleased Sonic game for the Sega Megadrive / Genesis that was planned after the release of Sonic 3 & Sonic & Knuckles, conceived by the creators of Sonic Spinball and Comix Zone. Lets go back and look at the story of this game that was set to feature Sally Acorn.
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  • @LadyDecade
    @LadyDecade  3 года назад +40

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    • @Invidente7
      @Invidente7 3 года назад +2

      Adventures of Sonic The Hegdehog and SaTam were supposed to be in the same continuity with Adventures being a prequel. Also there's hope of them SaTam characthers returning in Sonic Prime.

    • @kenterminateddq5311
      @kenterminateddq5311 3 года назад +1

      Your review style is very similar to Top Hat Gaming. I liked your reviews better than his, thus far.

    • @johnpenguinthe3rd13
      @johnpenguinthe3rd13 3 года назад

      Have you ever thought about covering the Sony CD-i? Yes, the SONY CD-i. While Phillips made the majority of CD-i units and Magnavox had their name on some of the other CD-i units, SONY (same Sony as the Playstation) made a CD-i that was released. I think there is only ONE video on RUclips covering the Sony CD-i (one guy who managed to get a working Sony CD-i and showed it off in a RUclips video). I also remember the official CD-i magazine covering it (Issue # 2 of the a CD-i magazine even had the Sony CD-i on their cover. The CD-i version of 7th Guest, which it's PC version won PC game of the year, is primarily on the cover of issue # 2 from very late 1993, but the Sony CD-i is shown on the right side of the same cover. It's similar to the portable Phillips CD-i unit, but has several differences, especially when you compare photos of the Sony CD-i and the portable version of the Phillips CD-i side-by-side you'll see differences). CD-i magazines can be found online to read if you can't find them physically on ebay. They offer A LOT of info on the CD-i in general which I don't think I've ever heard mentioned in any RUclips video.

    • @tenbob1972
      @tenbob1972 3 года назад +3

      love this vid but you made a mistake its mark sirney spelt cerney not mark kerny

    • @labronthesuperninjayasin2203
      @labronthesuperninjayasin2203 3 года назад +4

      No

  • @KrimsonKB
    @KrimsonKB 3 года назад +21

    I would have killed for a Sonic game based off Sonic SatAM and the Sonic Archie comics. I loved those stories and characters, even if people call it cringe.
    Funnily enough, the only game Bunnie Rabbot, Rotor, and Sally ever appreared in was Sonic Spinball.

    • @Mike14264
      @Mike14264 2 года назад +4

      Screw the people who call it cringe. Many people love these stories, so what makes the haters' opinions meaningful? Not much. The show has faults, sure, everything in the Universe has, but it's not right to call it bad just because they don't like it.

    • @wnrr2696
      @wnrr2696 2 года назад +1

      I loved the Archie ones, I always remember there being a black robotic tentacles enemy that used to chase sonic but can’t recall the name of them

  • @johnlittle8045
    @johnlittle8045 3 года назад +25

    Gotta be honest, I kinda wish this'd been green-lit. A stealth game based on the darker SatAM elements could've been a fun addition to the franchise.

    • @nameless646
      @nameless646 Год назад

      Sonic Adventure should have been a console franchise based on the SatAM series and Archie comics from issues 30-50.

  • @elementalheroneos2757
    @elementalheroneos2757 3 года назад +51

    I would love to have a game that is based on the sonic SATAM

    • @wisco_simple
      @wisco_simple 3 года назад +2

      I'd trade Sega back sonic 4

    • @elementalheroneos2757
      @elementalheroneos2757 3 года назад

      @@wisco_simple okaaaaay

    • @knightshousegames
      @knightshousegames 3 года назад

      I like the idea of something with the visual style and music of the Sonic anime film, that world was really cool, with The Land of the Sky and The Land of Darkness
      The dialog was hokey, but it was still better than pretty much all of the other Sonic cartoons by a lot.

    • @elementalheroneos2757
      @elementalheroneos2757 3 года назад

      @@knightshousegames explain more

    • @knightshousegames
      @knightshousegames 3 года назад

      @@elementalheroneos2757 Oh, have you not heard of this?
      Apparently sometime in the mid 90s Sega did a short 2 episode Anime OVA style thing with Sonic that was released in the west as a movie.
      It's probably the best portrayal of Metal Sonic for sure, but the world it takes place in is just so cool, like one of the areas looks like a flooded, destroyed ruin of New York City. They even use a warp zone to get past a tough area in the story, so they incorporated the mechanics of the game into the story in a meaningful way. And the soundtrack is awesome.
      It has...quirks....Knuckles wears a cowboy hat for some reason, and you have a couple little scenes which appeal mostly to the perverted anime viewers of the late 90s, and the dialog gets mocked a lot, even though I think the story they were telling was really good. But overall I think it's probably the best animated interpretation of Sonic.
      I'm sure you can find it on RUclips, most people refer to it as the Sonic OVA

  • @SisterRose
    @SisterRose 3 года назад +50

    lumping in Sonic Adventures with Sonic 06 :/
    people have a lot of irrational hatred for anything outside of the originals and Sonic Mania and Sega regularly takes the wrong message from that.
    Shadows' reputation as an edgelord came largely after Sonic Adventure 2 with his own game. The Adventure games had actual character arcs. I grew up with the 16 bit games and I loved the Adventure titles.

    • @spacecadetkaito
      @spacecadetkaito 3 года назад +6

      I could understand thinking the Shadow video game and stuff is cringe and over the top, but the character itself? Not really, he's just like any dark rival you would see in any other kids' media, like Vegeta.

    • @PaulBadman
      @PaulBadman 3 года назад +1

      yeh but every 3d sonic game is janky as hell..it just feels cheap.
      the 2d ones are a lot more solid and doesn't feel like a cut scene while you play

    • @juhadexcelsior
      @juhadexcelsior 3 года назад +1

      its too late bro. the damage has been done for over a decade now.

    • @doctoreggmannegaful
      @doctoreggmannegaful 3 года назад +12

      Yeah, she makes the uneducated assumption people like us who grew up on the originals don't like the newer stuff. She's missing out big time, sadly.

    • @PaulBadman
      @PaulBadman 3 года назад +5

      @@doctoreggmannegaful I think it was just a joke.. I hate playing sonic due to the fanbase acting like kpop stans

  • @TheRealDustinNunn
    @TheRealDustinNunn 3 года назад +32

    Trivia: In the USA, there are three Sonic the Hedgehog cartoons that were created by DiC: Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog, Sonic the Hedgehog (aka Sonic SatAM) and Sonic Underground.

    • @Invidente7
      @Invidente7 3 года назад +1

      And Adventures was supposed to be a prequel to Sonic SaTam.

    • @bettzysdaddy
      @bettzysdaddy 3 года назад

      Who also produced the Super Mario Bros. Super Show

    • @TheRealDustinNunn
      @TheRealDustinNunn 3 года назад +6

      @@Invidente7 Actually, Adventures of Sonic, Sonic SatAM and Sonic Underground have different canons and they are not connected to one another. Adventures of Sonic is part of the Adventures of Sonic universe, Sonic SatAM is part of the Sonic SatAM universe and Sonic Underground is part of the Sonic Underground universe.

    • @Invidente7
      @Invidente7 3 года назад +2

      @@TheRealDustinNunn I know, I said It was SUPPOSED, not that it was.

    • @graphicsgod
      @graphicsgod 3 года назад +2

      I always got a juvenile chuckle when the woman said "Dic" on the teli! 🤣🤣🤭🤭

  • @iampinball3669
    @iampinball3669 3 года назад +14

    10:17
    The most "I don't understand Sonic" normie shit I've ever heard

    • @Alice-ew4dy
      @Alice-ew4dy 3 года назад +3

      Glad I could find someone who didn't just blindly think it was "good"

    • @adamberthiaume309
      @adamberthiaume309 3 года назад +3

      The new games are fucking terrible though.

    • @rozzler
      @rozzler 3 года назад +1

      Edgy the hedgy is now my new favourite name for shadow.

    • @iampinball3669
      @iampinball3669 3 года назад +1

      @@adamberthiaume309 yes, in terms of quality sure, but Rouge and Shadow are both great characters

  • @jamesoneavatar8644
    @jamesoneavatar8644 3 года назад +24

    A Sonic game that looks like a cross between Prince of Persia and Metal Gear, interesting!

  • @vjm3
    @vjm3 3 года назад +6

    Wasn't the SATAM crew in Sonic Pinball? I swear there's a bonus section where you destroy robotization tubes, and each of the cast members pops out.

    • @edwincenteno7266
      @edwincenteno7266 3 года назад +2

      Yup, Sally appears in her pink fur and black hair design.

  • @Mangomesh
    @Mangomesh 3 года назад +6

    I remember the Sega sonic games well, the cartoon with Sonic and Sally will always hold a special place in my heart.

  • @daviddamasceno6063
    @daviddamasceno6063 3 года назад +7

    I remember the cartoon and the comics. It's a shame Sega abandoned all that lore, it was all so captivating for me as child. But that game really didn't look good. I like current Sonic lore, Edgy the Hedgy and all (lol), just wish they could do more with all those characters.
    Also, pretty amazing to know that at some point Naka and Cerny worked together.

    • @autobotstarscream765
      @autobotstarscream765 3 года назад

      Hence why Cerny went on to create Sonic's Ass (Crash Bandicoot) inspired by Sonic and the efforts to bring him to the third dimension in 32 bits.

  • @RetroGamerBB
    @RetroGamerBB 3 года назад +21

    I love the satam characters.

    • @FuryanJedi13
      @FuryanJedi13 3 года назад +2

      Me too. They seriously need more love and respect.

  • @alexos9011
    @alexos9011 3 года назад +17

    10:18 Was that commentary really necessary? I'm trying to watch a video documentary on a cancelled Sonic project, I'm not looking for someone to insult some of my favorites characters out of the blue when no one asked for it. (I already have Twitter for that)
    Other than this off-putting part, it was a well documented video, good job.

    • @LadyDecade
      @LadyDecade  3 года назад +3

      It's a joke

    • @alexos9011
      @alexos9011 3 года назад +13

      @@LadyDecade Yeah, a joke at the expense of genuinely well written and beloved characters. I don't see how that's funny.
      But anyways, as I've said, this is still a good video no matter what.

    • @HEMPHILL23
      @HEMPHILL23 3 года назад

      ​@@alexos9011 Your characters get to be cannon....

    • @alexos9011
      @alexos9011 3 года назад +1

      @@HEMPHILL23 I'm sorry I don't understand what you mean by that

    • @PaulBadman
      @PaulBadman 3 года назад

      @@LadyDecade i laughed, sonic fans now days are furry Incells that post on 4chan...it was a good joke

  • @magdcs
    @magdcs 3 года назад +81

    The game would be better for Sally instead of Sonic.

    • @jeromethompson5848
      @jeromethompson5848 3 года назад +3

      Agreed

    • @tails_the_god
      @tails_the_god 3 года назад +4

      Nah it work fine with Sonic too! Variety of genres is common with Mario and sonic

    • @magdcs
      @magdcs 3 года назад

      @@tails_the_god Mario is a portly slow plumber. I never seen him fast except when eating. Nothing wrong with eating, mind you. A slow Sonic game is so

    • @tails_the_god
      @tails_the_god 3 года назад +3

      @@magdcs lmao good one xD, I'm helping with a Sonic SatAM RPG game and I find it unique and cool

    • @nthgth
      @nthgth 3 года назад +5

      Idk, Sally can sneak but she can't buzzsaw. Maybe she could still throw rings, and as a concession about the buzzsaw thing give her some abilities or two with her AI-PDA Nicole.
      Like she'd be used more for deeper infiltration levels, with hacking door locks and augmenting capabilities of digital binoculars and stuff like that.
      Maybe some levels, you'd switch between them like in Mania+.
      I wonder if Chris Whitehead has heard of Sonic 16...

  • @kris198921
    @kris198921 3 года назад +3

    a lot of people that grew up with the 16 bit sonic games love sonic adventure 1 and 2

  • @youmuffin
    @youmuffin 3 года назад +15

    nobody:
    Lady Decade: Sonic Adventure is cringe

    • @theeternalsuperstar3773
      @theeternalsuperstar3773 3 года назад +9

      She's literally the only person to think that. I think she may not be a big Sonic fan as she made some very... interesting claims about the franchise.

    • @isodoubIet
      @isodoubIet 3 года назад +4

      Everyone who grew up with the classic games finds 3d sonic cringe.

    • @youmuffin
      @youmuffin 3 года назад +6

      @@isodoubIet nope

    • @DailyCorvid
      @DailyCorvid 2 года назад

      @@isodoubIet Sonic in general is cringe, he always was just we were like 11 yrs old ourselves, WE were fucking cringey back then too :D

  • @tommytwotacos8106
    @tommytwotacos8106 3 года назад +14

    Don't make fun of Rouge! She's a lovely bat and not at all responsible for COVID.

    • @graphicsgod
      @graphicsgod 3 года назад +2

      She gave me Covid, but I'm ok with that..

  • @korzalm
    @korzalm 3 года назад +5

    Video starts at 7:17 (if you want to skip the "brief" introduction).

  • @theeternalsuperstar3773
    @theeternalsuperstar3773 3 года назад +10

    This girl has no idea how many people she pissed off by saying "Sonic SatAM is cringey", calling Shadow "Edgey The Hedgey" Sonic SatAM is widely regarded by most fans for having some of the best story structure in the franchise, as well as the best Robotnik.

    • @r3tr0nic
      @r3tr0nic 3 года назад +4

      There were more then a handful of times she blasted out things that would piss off fans and/or offend them. Ofc we are all entitled to make our own opinions, as is she.

    • @daniskicker
      @daniskicker 2 года назад +2

      SatAM was the best. My assumption is that Lady did not watch the series as a kid like I did... I was obsessed back then.

    • @bls8959
      @bls8959 2 года назад +2

      She's obviously not a big fan of sonic

    • @Christolclear101
      @Christolclear101 Год назад +1

      Considering she said the show mostly “slapstick based humor”, just tells me she didn’t watch the show. Perhaps she was thinking of Adventures of Sonic The Hedgehog instead.

    • @theeternalsuperstar3773
      @theeternalsuperstar3773 Год назад

      @@Christolclear101 Perhaps...

  • @Psyagnostic
    @Psyagnostic 3 года назад +21

    Nobody:
    Lady Decade: Mark Kerny

  • @houseoftheted637
    @houseoftheted637 3 года назад +16

    I wonder if there were any unreleased PS1 mascot games. Perhaps a crash Bandicoot game no one has heard of 🤔😎

    • @lewisaino
      @lewisaino 3 года назад +5

      There were Unreleased Crash games but on the 7th gen

  • @alfredosilvaneto
    @alfredosilvaneto 3 года назад +17

    The game actually looked good with those graphics and mechanics, but it wouldn't be a good Sonic game.

  • @random_gamer_guy82
    @random_gamer_guy82 3 года назад +4

    The sonic redesign in sonic spinball apparently caused such a storm that made many sega Japanese programmer's to walk out, claiming that the sonic in sonic spinball was so badly designed that he had lost his character. The Japanese sonic design is really stark comparison wise on box art and the majority of the box arts was the Japanese "sonic " looking more less detailed and his spikes was radically different. The sonic adventure design was a huge middle finger at the American designs and a final "go home" to the yanks. Things got violent many a time apparently. I kinda do prefer sonics 1/2 design to the spinball design, sonic 3 / s&k was a refining look. Each to there own. Another absolutely outstanding video look at Mr sonic!!!

    • @bls8959
      @bls8959 2 года назад

      Sonic 3 is his best look imo

  • @Kotoyc
    @Kotoyc 3 года назад +4

    Sonic SatAM isn't cringe, it was awesome for its time. It had darker, more serious themes than most cartoons back in the day. If remade today as a more up-to-date cartoon, with bigger budget and with what is considered darker, more serious plot nowadays - I believe it'd be a great cartoon.
    Also don't diminish Sally to a simple deviantart material. She was an outstanding female character. Maybe a bit too perfect, but a fitting foil for a flawed protagonist. Of course it's easy to look back almost 30 years ago and see flaws, but considering the times, the constraints of budget and the DIC's obsession with more popular Power rangers, Ben Hurst's vision for SatAM was great. Those DICs didn't even let him finish the plot with intended 3rd season. He actually had a finished script and was really passionate about it. He would try to pitch it to higher ups all his life, but sadly never got greenlit.

    • @hawklindbergh
      @hawklindbergh 2 года назад

      This is the most sensible post here.

  • @conradojavier7547
    @conradojavier7547 3 года назад +9

    I wish Sega Reboots the Freedom Fighter as it's Own Franchise as a Teen Rated Game.

    • @Velocity_YT
      @Velocity_YT 3 года назад

      Highly doubt that would happen

  • @TheIronstout
    @TheIronstout 3 года назад +12

    Imagine a Sonic/Rocket Knight team up game!

    • @PhantomBoi-ru9ci
      @PhantomBoi-ru9ci 3 года назад +3

      sonic 2 for snes xd
      a hack of sparkster
      (of course that's the closest on existance)

  • @troyh3628
    @troyh3628 3 месяца назад

    Imagine how cool it would be if companies had some kind of archive where they still had the code to all of the projects that got terminated over the years, and they decided to release it all to the fans, and say "We're not ever going to finish these games, but want them out there. Go for it".

  • @sega-re-trop-vieux
    @sega-re-trop-vieux 3 года назад +3

    Sega was high for the Megadrive in Europe, Brazil and USA, but the real high was with the Saturn in Japan, it was even better than the n64 over there. I know that many fans prefer the Megadrive but my heart is with the Saturn.
    There is so many prototype games that we want so much. For example a game called Monica no Shiro was discovered only 1 month ago ( but still no uploads however for the fans).

    • @AlexOjideagu2
      @AlexOjideagu2 3 года назад +2

      The Master System was bigger than the NES in Europe and South America. Especially the UK, France and Brazil. The master system is the longest running console in history thanks to Brazil.

  • @jonathanlagace7974
    @jonathanlagace7974 3 года назад +22

    Tbh, I feel that, as long as if it was seen as a “Gaiden” or spinoff kinda title, it could have maybe gotten some traction. The gameplay reminds me of “cinematic platformers” common in the 1990s (Flashback, Blackthorne, Abe’s Oddysey, Prince of Persia, etc) which with the Sonic property and right execution coulda made some sales, maybe even develop a following.

    • @AzraelThanatos
      @AzraelThanatos 3 года назад +1

      From the look of the video, I'd put it more as a comparison to the Mario RPG type divergence and would be the game tie in for SatAM since the other sonic series at the time pretty much spawned the cast of Mean Bean Machine...

    • @GabePuratekuta
      @GabePuratekuta 2 года назад

      Wasn't Prince of Persia from the 80s, though?

  • @Prinsdam
    @Prinsdam 3 года назад +2

    The theory that Comix Zone is what spawned out of Sonic 16 is pretty brilliant, I never made the connection.

  • @OGPimpin
    @OGPimpin 2 года назад +2

    It would be freaking awesome if Jaleel White did the voice for future Sonic products (games, movies,shoes ,etc.)

  • @barry-allenthe-flash8396
    @barry-allenthe-flash8396 3 года назад +16

    You know what might've saved this, conceptually? If they pitched it as a Princess Sally/Freedom Fighters game - maybe on a rescue mission to save Sonic who's been captured or something. I mean, as pointed out, the gameplay is so far removed from traditional Sonic stuff that it's weird to see _him_ doing this stuff. You take another character from that universe though? One who doesn't have super speed? Then it could work. There are a handful of sidescrollers with stealth elements like Mark of the Ninja or the GBA Splinter Cell games that show there's something there, I think... just not for a game where you're supposed to doing this stuff as Sonic :P

  • @gyrrakavian
    @gyrrakavian 3 года назад +3

    Referring to SatAM as cringe inducing? Sounds like someone might still be a bit bitter that the Fleetway run never got an animated adaptation.

    • @autobotstarscream765
      @autobotstarscream765 3 года назад

      Should've gotten a game adaptation, imagine if the night stages of Sonic Unleashed were a Chaos Force-possessed Super Sonic becoming the new God of Destruction and killing everything in sight instead of the Were-Ristar.

  • @Uncle-Jay
    @Uncle-Jay Год назад +1

    I grew up in that era, I am super frustrated they never released Sonic 16, I think it was a great idea. I really wish Sega would come around to the SatAM side.

  • @mikejurkowski
    @mikejurkowski 3 года назад +3

    You continue to cover topics I have never heard of. Quality content. 👍

  • @justesorn9536
    @justesorn9536 3 года назад +1

    You can't talk about Sonic 16 without talking about Sonic Mars!

  • @sajmeister
    @sajmeister 3 года назад +2

    That was excellent. Never knew this existed, amazing stuff. Thanks for crediting me here too 👊 ✊

  • @jagergerg9771
    @jagergerg9771 3 года назад +4

    I love the music in Ice Cap Zone.

  • @renereyes2648
    @renereyes2648 3 года назад +19

    This actually look really good since I had a lot of love for Sonic SatAM. Don’t really see how this show was cringe and I think Lady Decade might have mixed up the Sonic cartoons. If this had come out it could have kept Sonic SatAM going and maybe a proper ending.

    • @IgorsDen
      @IgorsDen 3 года назад +4

      Don't know if you're from the UK or not, but here Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog was much more popular than Sonic SatAM. I know in the US Sonic SatAM was more high profile than Adventures and built up a notable cult following, but here Adventures got a much bigger push. It's a bit of a cultural difference between US and UK.

    • @Mike14264
      @Mike14264 2 года назад +1

      @@IgorsDen yeah, I only saw the cartoon with the comedic tone... It was also dubbed, so that was neat! And apparently, we also had a dubbed version of Sonic Underground, and our version of the song is pretty well loved here in Portugal!

    • @HeiseyMotors
      @HeiseyMotors 2 года назад +1

      @@IgorsDen Oof. Adventures of Sonic was super cringy and full of so much nonsense. Sonic SatAM was the much better show and storyline. SatAM made Sonic genuinely cool and edgy

    • @IgorsDen
      @IgorsDen 2 года назад +1

      "Full of so much nonsense" isn't a demerit for everyone, and similarly "edgy" isn't always a plus

    • @renereyes2648
      @renereyes2648 2 года назад +2

      @@IgorsDen from the US while I enjoyed some of AoStHH I liked the story telling in Sonic SatAM more it definitely felt more in line with the games much like the Sonic OVA loosely based on Sonic CD.

  • @joshuabonnelle6527
    @joshuabonnelle6527 3 года назад +7

    Dang, an rpg style sonic game back then would have been interesting!

    • @Mnemoniforma9.00
      @Mnemoniforma9.00 3 года назад +1

      Yeah, it really would have. Thanks for whiffing that distinction of being the first, Bioware!

  • @DavidArnold1982
    @DavidArnold1982 3 года назад +2

    Love that you always hit on obscure tidbits like this!

  • @JulianPerez-zv6os
    @JulianPerez-zv6os 3 года назад +22

    It's really great to have our history explained like this by Counselor Troi

    • @DailyCorvid
      @DailyCorvid 2 года назад

      Personally I don't see the resemblance at all ; ahhh... they both have dark hair? Lol.
      Though check out the advert, the Indian Dating advert chick is far more a likeness to LD! if I didn't know better I would say that LD has cloned the look on purpose. Just randomly appearing next to her actual legit video.

    • @reyntime1950
      @reyntime1950 2 года назад

      Ha. Never noticed until you pointed this out.

  • @Hynotama
    @Hynotama 3 года назад +4

    You'd think that someone who researched the history of Sonic, would know that Shadow was never meant to be an edgelord. That's just the memes and Sonic Boom. And I guess the IDW comics. In fact even in the Shadow the Hedgehog game, where he's arguably the edgiest, Shadow ends up befriending the G.U.N. commander and undergoing G.U.N. training. And in Sonic 06 Shadow is actually working with gun and has a beautiful friendship with Rouge and Omega. And yeah, Sonic 06 has the infamous kiss, time to get over it cause it's been 15 years, but it had more going for it than Sonic Colors with its braindead "humor" and the 30 seconds levels lengthened by lots and lots of looping around and waiting around for platforms to move slowly. Sonic 06 could have been amazing if developed properly, Sonic Colors was flawed from the start.

  • @ReneSpeak
    @ReneSpeak 3 года назад +1

    Had no idea of the existence of this unreleased game! Looks so cool! Love this video and your narration :) Thanks!

  • @ProjectNB
    @ProjectNB 2 года назад

    Mario 64: im the first one, to have the pixel bit on my name
    Sonic 16: hold my Rings

  • @sakurarozu
    @sakurarozu 3 года назад +3

    My daily lunch entertainment is here!

  • @AndrewAllison1970
    @AndrewAllison1970 2 года назад

    I love your channel and find your videos informative and entertaining. Congrats on your current success! I have a suggestion for a topic. Way back in the early 1980’s there was a sequel planned for the console called the Odyssey2 in the states and the Philips Videopac G7000 in Europe. This console would have been called the Odyssey3 in America but was never released. However, in select countries in Europe this was briefly released as the Videopac G7400. This console is extremely sought after by fans of the Odyssey2 and I would love to see a video discussing the G7400 and why it was so short lived.

  • @adonian
    @adonian 3 года назад +2

    9:12 hey I resemble that remark 🤣

  • @lirionbelmont
    @lirionbelmont 3 года назад +1

    this channel is pretty pog

  • @jeroenvanschaik4680
    @jeroenvanschaik4680 3 года назад +1

    Great video again LadyDecade! Love your work!!

  • @Mnemoniforma9.00
    @Mnemoniforma9.00 3 года назад +3

    The further Sega veers from reviving the SatAM/Archie canon, the more lost Sonic feels to me. If only the present obstacles just dropped off the face of the earth... #SaveWesternSonic

  • @cubeflinger
    @cubeflinger 3 года назад +3

    Smashing them out of the park lately. Nice vid.

  • @Sean-D78
    @Sean-D78 3 года назад +7

    Great video! Even when it's about a small game with little information you're able to make a great informative video about it!
    Just a little nitpick is that Mark Cerny's last name is pronounced with the C sounding like an S.

  • @steviegrafx1616
    @steviegrafx1616 3 года назад +13

    I happen to love the Saturday morning cartoon, and the Archie comics series. I would have loved Sonic 16.

  • @tomackerman4089
    @tomackerman4089 2 года назад

    Had it been introduced and been successful, Sonic 16 looks like it could have laid the groundwork for a good 3D Sonic game that didn't rely on Sonic going fast all the time.
    With most 3D Sonic games that we got it looks like developers really assumed that Sonic had to go fast most of the time which limited their options for gameplay in 3D.
    A 3D Sonic like Sonic 16 would have allowed for more strategic gameplay more along the lines of what Super Mario 64 was able to do.
    Sonic 16, even though it would have played differently than regular Sonic games, was a missed opportunity for Sega to move the Sonic franchise in a new direction. A direction that it might have needed to take in order to make Sonic work well in 3D.

  • @jeffreyjeffrey007
    @jeffreyjeffrey007 3 года назад

    Seems like a majority of Sega Super-Fans who are very nostalgic I find on yt have a funny accent. Freedom. Seriously tho, cool vid. Subbed.
    edit: Roger Hector has some of the most amazing jowls ever seen.

  • @edgardeitz5746
    @edgardeitz5746 2 года назад

    Funny that this video mentions a ring attack; it has been found that a few game genie codes can be used in a Sonic 3 beta to create a ring toss move (which DOESN'T use up rings!).

  • @SapinskiMath
    @SapinskiMath 3 года назад +6

    I came into the Sonic fandom BECAUSE of SatAM when I discovered it a few years later in reruns. I still hold it as the gold standard of Sonic storytelling. I would have loved to play this game, and still believe a game with a playable SatAM cast should have happened at least once.

  • @nick6var
    @nick6var 2 года назад

    It would have been a great addition to the Sonic franchise. It's likely that 3D bonus levels and speedy classic levels would have been mandated, giving gamers the Sonic they knew.

  • @xFEARxPHOENIXx
    @xFEARxPHOENIXx 3 года назад +16

    Sally Acorn should make an Only Fans! Sorry, I'm just trolling over a video of yours I watched yesterday, lol.

    • @graphicsgod
      @graphicsgod 3 года назад +1

      I want Top Hat Gamer to make an Onlyfans.. Yeeaaaahhhhhh!!! 👀👀

  • @jamesyue1348
    @jamesyue1348 3 года назад +1

    Sonic is SEGA
    SEGA is Sonic.

  • @blackmagician7645
    @blackmagician7645 3 года назад +1

    It took up to this, to realise Sally was a chipmunk.

    • @Kotoyc
      @Kotoyc 3 года назад +2

      She's a mix of chipmunk and squirrel. Iirc SatAM writer Ben Hurst described her as such.

    • @blackmagician7645
      @blackmagician7645 3 года назад +1

      @@Kotoyc I know Sonic may have considered her a little prudent at times. But a "Square-Monk"? I bet he'd get a kick out of that.😊

  • @voyaging07
    @voyaging07 3 года назад +1

    Yeah! New Lady Decade! 🙌🙌

  • @CardozaCreativeMinds
    @CardozaCreativeMinds 3 года назад +1

    Lady Decade! Thank you always for your great videos! Just signed up to your Patreon to show the love and support! Keep it up! #YouareAwesome

  • @donstarlancer
    @donstarlancer 3 года назад +1

    This was very interesting. I had never heard about this. Fascinating that they considered a stealthy Sonic entry.

  • @lionelwashington8419
    @lionelwashington8419 3 года назад +1

    Now look here Lady Decade. I grew up on the old games "Sonic 1 through Sonic 3 & Knuckles" but Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 are great. Don't knocked till you try them.....the rest later suck though...except for generations and mania...sonic Advance 2 and 3 are hidden gems too

  • @edrosa3485
    @edrosa3485 3 года назад +1

    I’ve never heard of this. Thank you!

  • @HotlineSehwani
    @HotlineSehwani 3 года назад

    Great video! Just finding your channel and liking the quality Sonic/SEGA content you are creating!

  • @FuryanJedi13
    @FuryanJedi13 3 года назад +1

    Ok, this game might not have been perfect, but I would still like to see a Sonic game with strong story elements. And if Sally Acorn and the Freedom Fighters were in it, all the better!

  • @Loco0089
    @Loco0089 3 года назад +5

    I've never heard Mark Cerny's name pronounce d as "Kerny". Is that the proper pronunciation?

    • @AStrangerOnTheInternet
      @AStrangerOnTheInternet 3 года назад +9

      He introduces himself as *ser*nee, so no.

    • @SuperGainsBrosYT
      @SuperGainsBrosYT 3 года назад +4

      I believe it's "Ser-Knee" at least that's how I've heard it before. But I could see how someone would read it as Kerny

    • @Loco0089
      @Loco0089 3 года назад +3

      @@AStrangerOnTheInternet Okay, I thought I was mispronouncing his name. Thanks.

  • @muusi5708
    @muusi5708 3 года назад +1

    How is it possible that this channel just appears out of nowhere and starts telling me about cancelled and obscure gaming stuff that i've never heard of even though i've been in the retro gaming community since the early 2000's?

  • @Fungiarts
    @Fungiarts 3 года назад +5

    Eeehm okay? Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 are not cringe. I may not grew up with the Classic era but Sonic 1 is still my first sonic game so means technically I grew up with the Genesis games but sorry I like sonic Adventure. I played both SA1 and 2 in 2018 and 17 for the first time and my god people literally bashed on these two titles just because it was cool to bash on it.

  • @Invidente7
    @Invidente7 3 года назад +2

    Heard about this. Sadly it never got past the demo. Even worse the classic trackball-controlled Sonic arcade machine was supposed to be a Sonic SaTam adaptation. I guess Sonic Spinball and Sally in Sonic 1 and 2 mods is as good as it ever gonna get.

    • @conradojavier7547
      @conradojavier7547 3 года назад +4

      A Westernized SegaSonic even had a Robotnik Sprite to match his SATAM Appearance.

  • @carlosdelpino3547
    @carlosdelpino3547 3 года назад +2

    Edgy the Hedgy is a great name for my pet rat, and I thank you for it.

  • @HeiseyMotors
    @HeiseyMotors 2 года назад

    Sonic SatAM was so dark and edgy for the time. I still love that cartoon to this day and totally wished the game would've come out. True Sonic fans wouldn't have cared if it was full blast speed ahead if they were real fans of the characters themselves.

  • @theprodigy751
    @theprodigy751 3 года назад +1

    2:35
    Tails looks shook..

  • @ramiyohay7286
    @ramiyohay7286 2 года назад

    I think you pronounce Mark Cerny, not Kerny. The guy is brilliant! Didn’t know who was involved in sonic 2. The guy became the leading engineer in the PS4 making , actually saving Sony after the ps3 era. Now he is the leading engineer of the Ps5

  • @DanijelJames
    @DanijelJames 3 года назад

    Brilliant work

  • @TheSektorz
    @TheSektorz 3 года назад +2

    cybershell sounds a bit different

  • @paulievvlogs
    @paulievvlogs 3 года назад +1

    Sonic 16 would of be epic maybe should make a fan made game of this or maybe sega may re think this and make a re make of the cartoon anime because it was the best

  • @Gigatech151
    @Gigatech151 3 года назад +3

    "Metal Sonic Gear"... Something that at my 40's mede me laugh.

  • @dmxdxl
    @dmxdxl 3 года назад +1

    This channel goes into great detail of things I covet from my childhood, Sega was my JAM and thus I subbed to your channel you know your gaming history and I love watching you explain it, SUBBED!!!...

  • @alfredosilvaneto
    @alfredosilvaneto 3 года назад +3

    This channel is great, nice work. I've never heard about this proto game before.

  • @oshiobeast5157
    @oshiobeast5157 3 года назад +6

    you’re doing an excellent job with bringing up info on different media. anyways, I’m wondering if there’s anymore lost game media from sega.

  • @Trance88
    @Trance88 3 года назад +1

    Sonic SatAM: THE GAME! I would probably be an even bigger Sonic fan today if this had been developed and released. Unfortunately, Sonic SatAM cartoon series is one of those early Sega of America properties that just didn't vibe with everyone. It's definitely got its cult following (I'm one of them), but it wasn't widely accepted to be the main Sonic folklore, which I think is an absolute shame, as the official lore eventually developed in Sonic Adventure and onward is complete trash compared to Sonic SatAM in my opinion.

  • @Guernicaman
    @Guernicaman 3 года назад +36

    It's pronounced "Serny", not "Kerny". 😂

    • @doctoreggmannegaful
      @doctoreggmannegaful 3 года назад

      It's pronounced "Mark Sony", these days. Creator of modern PlayStation consoles and most importantly, Knack. Please give us Knack 3, Mr Mark Cerny, giver of all good gaming. Amen. 🙏

    • @korzalm
      @korzalm 3 года назад +1

      It might be that "celt" pronunciation issue influence [selt, kelt]. English spelling mess causes pronunciation issues...

    • @DailyCorvid
      @DailyCorvid 2 года назад

      @@korzalm Celts are Irish you got the wrong Island! Celtic on the mainland is Sell-tick as in the Scottish. Celts (Kelts) are Irish not English or even British.

    • @andegallagher6645
      @andegallagher6645 2 года назад

      @@DailyCorvid the celts started in centra Europe and spread all over Europe from Ireland, Britain to Spain and even Turkey.

  • @arisdulgerian2053
    @arisdulgerian2053 3 года назад +1

    Another great vid.

  • @tardistime6857
    @tardistime6857 3 года назад +1

    Great video

  • @janmichaelyourvincents2754
    @janmichaelyourvincents2754 3 года назад +2

    It would have been a classic

  • @briannacluck5494
    @briannacluck5494 3 года назад +1

    I'd love to see a history on the utterly bizarre creation that is Segasonic for the arcade

  • @nufiya999
    @nufiya999 3 года назад

    Wow, you make a game documentary seem so elegant. So informative. Newly Subbed.

  • @frost8077
    @frost8077 3 года назад

    The music and artstyle of Sonic & Knuckles and Nights into Dreams just made me feel so nostalgic for that old Sega style. I didn't think the Dreamcast games were that bad, but only if I knew what a slippery slope those were with the later Gamecube games. I actually really enjoyed Sonic R as well. That Sonic-16 though looks so good, shame it was never completed. I can barely remember that cartoon now.

  • @fastrack2170
    @fastrack2170 3 года назад

    Thank you!

  • @diegocrusius
    @diegocrusius 3 года назад +1

    I grew up in the 16 bit era and enjoyed Sonic Adventure quite a lot.

  • @shardsoftime0952
    @shardsoftime0952 2 года назад +1

    Could have been one of the best sonic games

  • @TBoneTony
    @TBoneTony 3 года назад

    Sonic 16, you must be 16 years of age to play this Sonic game.
    Content Warning: Princess Sally.

  • @joesshows6793
    @joesshows6793 3 года назад +1

    Just a FYI I did get a notification for this video.

  • @superpcengine
    @superpcengine 3 года назад +2

    big the cat isnt bullcrap and hes really sweet and way better than you

  • @workingorder2189
    @workingorder2189 3 года назад

    Solid Hedgehog: Infiltrated Robotropolis unseen. What are my orders Colonel Acorn?
    Colonel Acorn: Freedom Fighter Solid Hedgehog, your task is to destroy Robotnik's new bipedal tank: Metal Gear SONIC.

  • @trzy
    @trzy 3 года назад +1

    I wonder if the Sonic-16 demo was running on a Genesis. The color palette looks richer than the system could support and the frame rate is low (particularly scrolling, which would be independent of animation). Probably a PC mock-up?