Currently we haven't tested the 450. We hope to test it this summer if we can get our hands on one. Please check back in a few weeks because they are testing not stop right now. Thank you.
If I keep the stock tires size but change the tires waht clutch would I I get the stock size tire clutch or 27-28 kit? I have an sportsman and the tires are basically double weigh of the other tires.
If they are double the weight then you would want to go to the 27-28" tire kit even though yours are smaller. The 27-28" kit will make up for the power loss of the heavier tires.
I have a 2015 570 and the clutch does not seam to have threads i bought the puller and it did not thread on. So i flashed an light in there and nothing
You would either have to change the primary clutch or at least remove the two way bearing and install a one way bearing. You would also need to replace the complete secondary clutch to the EBS style clutch. Im not sure if it can just be bolted on though, im not sure if the shaft coming out of the transmission is the same for both clutches. Its easier to remove ebs rather then add it.
Currently we do not sell a clutch kit for the ETX. We haven't had a chance to test that model. We test hat ever we can get our hands on, and are continually trying to add new models. Thanks for checking and hopefully we will have something soon.
I don't have the exact torque spec, always just done it by feel . They are small little bolts so not a whole lot. We have a service manual for the 570 and even that doesn't list a spec for the button bolts.
I got the same year machine with27" tires and I bought the all around clutch kit from epi and i'm getting a slight little winding noise. Could this be because the kit is new? I'm a mechanic and I installed it correctly so that slight winding has me a little worried, can anyone help? Thank you.
@@williamsantiago7303 i gotcha. Was going to suggest maybe a clutch alignment issue. Some folks either need to add or remove shims behind the secondary to get the clutches and belt in alignment. Mine made a similar noise it was slightly out of alignment from the factory but i only noticed it at idle in neutral or park
I'm not sure what the difference between ebs and non ebs is. I know what they mean but unsure of the function. You said that this was a non ebs system however it's the same setup as my 2016 450 sportsman ho that has ebs. What is the difference between the kits and what happens if you use a kit designed for non ebs?
EBS clutches wil have round rollers that the helix rolls on instead of the plastic buttons that slide on the helix in non EBS clutches. Polaris uses about 10 different styles of clutches so they will vary a little depending on the models. On EBS clutches you do not preload the springs, you just compress them. So in most cases you cant interchange the spring and the helix between the two different style kits.
EPIperformance ok after looking further into this the dealer specs state my quad is not ebs. however the clutch cover has ebs system on it. it's definitely not ebs after pulling the clutches out
EPIperformance I would believe that. however it was brand new off the show room floor. I had never questioned it before until I went to add a clutch kit to it.
I put a EPI clutch kit sport utility up to 28 inch tires almost a year-and-a-half ago finally blew a beltwhat do you suggest I do when I put a new belt on it do I run it in low gear at first or just keep it in high gear and take it
For breaking in a new belt we would run 20-25 miles. Don't ride real agrressive, don't hold the throttle and speed in one spot, vary the speed and rpms up and down. Don't do any hard pulling or mudding. Basically trear it like you breaking in a new motor or machine. The nice you are the belt in the break miles the better and longer the belt will last. You can also wash the belt gently with dish soap when you first get it. And blow out and clean your clutches good also. Then your good to go!
I put the belt on sealed up the clutch case and everything nice and goodso I was rubbing the gas in park and when I let off the gas I'm hearing clicking noises could that be my weights loose or the bearing in between the clutch pieces
@@518localsundayriderzzzcran8 It could be the weights, or the one way bearing, or also the buttons on worn on the primary. I would take the clutch off and inspect it real good.
+Jonte Boström Usually the machines with EBS have a sticker on the clutch cover or by the gas tank showing EBS or Engine Braking System. Also most of the EPS (Electronic Power Steering) models have EBS. But if your still not sure call us asn we can see ifwe can figure it out for you. Thanks
The only part that needs grease in the clutches is just a real small amount on the splines in the helix. Once the helix is installed wipe off any extra grease. Everything else should be clean and dry.
mike salmon The machine in this video does not have ebs. The 570 come both with or without EBS. The primary clutches on both styles is the same process to change the parts but the secondary clutches are assembled different.
The springs are painted different colors to identify them. We make multiple springs both softer and stiffer to fine tune the clutches. The stiffer the springs means the higher the rpms.
@@jonnydubz7983 Yes some kits have an extra spring for the primary clutch. Usually the springs will have the same top rpms but a couple hundred rpm difference on initial engagement.
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This has got to be the best clutch video I've ever seen explained hands down great video bro... you help me out tremendously thank you.
Thanks! Glad we could help you out.
Than man, very well explained, helped me a lot..
Matt Todd Glad we could help!
Great video
thank you!
When you did the secondary clutch I didnt understand when you said there is a certain way to put the new helix on.
Hello on the 2017 driven clutch. Is there a preload on the spring?
where did you buy the clutch press at?and all tools used?
with what force in nm tighten the bolts of 1 wheel and 2 wheels?
if i send you both of my clutches how much would you charge to do it
Is that clutch puller tool the same part# as the one for the 500HO?
OleNasty79 Yes the 570 Sportsman would use the same clutch puller at the 500 HO Sportsman. You can use EPI number PCP-1 or PCP-12.
Thanks!
what clutch kit should i get for my polaris 2017 sportsman 450 ho efi???
Currently we haven't tested the 450. We hope to test it this summer if we can get our hands on one. Please check back in a few weeks because they are testing not stop right now. Thank you.
If I keep the stock tires size but change the tires waht clutch would I I get the stock size tire clutch or 27-28 kit? I have an sportsman and the tires are basically double weigh of the other tires.
If they are double the weight then you would want to go to the 27-28" tire kit even though yours are smaller. The 27-28" kit will make up for the power loss of the heavier tires.
I have a 2015 570 and the clutch does not seam to have threads i bought the puller and it did not thread on. So i flashed an light in there and nothing
Hey so if i want ebs on a non ebs model do i have to change entire primary clutch
You would either have to change the primary clutch or at least remove the two way bearing and install a one way bearing. You would also need to replace the complete secondary clutch to the EBS style clutch. Im not sure if it can just be bolted on though, im not sure if the shaft coming out of the transmission is the same for both clutches. Its easier to remove ebs rather then add it.
What clutch for a 2015 etx with 26s or do I even need one for 26s
Currently we do not sell a clutch kit for the ETX. We haven't had a chance to test that model. We test hat ever we can get our hands on, and are continually trying to add new models. Thanks for checking and hopefully we will have something soon.
would this be the same for a 2017 sportsman 570 ?
Yes
How tight do the clutch button screws need to be ?
I don't have the exact torque spec, always just done it by feel . They are small little bolts so not a whole lot. We have a service manual for the 570 and even that doesn't list a spec for the button bolts.
I got the same year machine with27" tires and I bought the all around clutch kit from epi and i'm getting a slight little winding noise. Could this be because the kit is new? I'm a mechanic and I installed it correctly so that slight winding has me a little worried, can anyone help? Thank you.
I still haven't had epi answer my question in the comment section. 2 years now.
Does it only do it in neutral or park?
@@CH-qy5sn It does it when I let off the throttle to slow down other than that it has balls.
@@williamsantiago7303 i gotcha. Was going to suggest maybe a clutch alignment issue. Some folks either need to add or remove shims behind the secondary to get the clutches and belt in alignment. Mine made a similar noise it was slightly out of alignment from the factory but i only noticed it at idle in neutral or park
@@CH-qy5sn Hey buddy, thanks for the advice and the fast response. Whenever I take it out next time I will look into that. Take care friend.
I'm not sure what the difference between ebs and non ebs is. I know what they mean but unsure of the function. You said that this was a non ebs system however it's the same setup as my 2016 450 sportsman ho that has ebs. What is the difference between the kits and what happens if you use a kit designed for non ebs?
EBS clutches wil have round rollers that the helix rolls on instead of the plastic buttons that slide on the helix in non EBS clutches. Polaris uses about 10 different styles of clutches so they will vary a little depending on the models. On EBS clutches you do not preload the springs, you just compress them. So in most cases you cant interchange the spring and the helix between the two different style kits.
EPIperformance ok after looking further into this the dealer specs state my quad is not ebs. however the clutch cover has ebs system on it. it's definitely not ebs after pulling the clutches out
The clutch covers should interchange so maybe replaced your cover with a used on at some point??
EPIperformance I would believe that. however it was brand new off the show room floor. I had never questioned it before until I went to add a clutch kit to it.
I put a EPI clutch kit sport utility up to 28 inch tires almost a year-and-a-half ago finally blew a beltwhat do you suggest I do when I put a new belt on it do I run it in low gear at first or just keep it in high gear and take it
For breaking in a new belt we would run 20-25 miles. Don't ride real agrressive, don't hold the throttle and speed in one spot, vary the speed and rpms up and down. Don't do any hard pulling or mudding. Basically trear it like you breaking in a new motor or machine. The nice you are the belt in the break miles the better and longer the belt will last. You can also wash the belt gently with dish soap when you first get it. And blow out and clean your clutches good also. Then your good to go!
I put the belt on sealed up the clutch case and everything nice and goodso I was rubbing the gas in park and when I let off the gas I'm hearing clicking noises could that be my weights loose or the bearing in between the clutch pieces
@@518localsundayriderzzzcran8 It could be the weights, or the one way bearing, or also the buttons on worn on the primary. I would take the clutch off and inspect it real good.
When you say one way bearing do you mean it should only move one way
My buddy who took the case off and noticed that and also thought that it's only supposed to go one way but it goes both ways
can you tell if the machine have ebs whitout taking it apart ?
+Jonte Boström Usually the machines with EBS have a sticker on the clutch cover or by the gas tank showing EBS or Engine Braking System. Also most of the EPS (Electronic Power Steering) models have EBS. But if your still not sure call us asn we can see ifwe can figure it out for you. Thanks
+EPIperformance thanks for your answer !
I know now that I don't have EBS on my machine ☺
I will come back to you when it's time to buy 😀
+Jonte Boström Sounds good. Thanks!
+EPIperformance 😀
What do u thank would be wrong with my clutch if it keeps messing up belts
Could be a lot of different things. Best thing would be call our tech line 218-829-6036 and we can try to help you figure it out.
@@EPIperformance ok
What's are the torque specs??? For a 2015 "570 Polaris sportsman? Clutches back and front ?? Any help is much appreciated thank u
For the primary is it 47-50 ft/lbs. For the secondary if it has EBS its 40 ft/lbs, if it non EBS it is 15 ft/lbs.
@@EPIperformance mines just like the video .? So the back secondary clutch bolt. non EBS.is only torqued to 15 lbs?
@@StreetCarCartelYes, you are correct 15 ft/lbs
@@EPIperformance thank u I'm ordering yalls 28 29 clutch kit now .🤙
@@StreetCarCartelAwesome! and thank you!
Hi. Should i grease smth in secondary?
The only part that needs grease in the clutches is just a real small amount on the splines in the helix. Once the helix is installed wipe off any extra grease. Everything else should be clean and dry.
@@EPIperformance bushings are also dry?
@@dmitryk3924 All bushing completely dry. Use a dry clean paper towel to clean them, no brake cleaner or chemicals on them.
Did this 570 have ebs?
mike salmon The machine in this video does not have ebs. The 570 come both with or without EBS. The primary clutches on both styles is the same process to change the parts but the secondary clutches are assembled different.
What does the different spring colors mean ??
The springs are painted different colors to identify them. We make multiple springs both softer and stiffer to fine tune the clutches. The stiffer the springs means the higher the rpms.
@@EPIperformance what do u mean higher rpm u mean before it starts to go?
@@jonnydubz7983 Yes some kits have an extra spring for the primary clutch. Usually the springs will have the same top rpms but a couple hundred rpm difference on initial engagement.
Well done. Thanks
Thank you! Glad we could help.
Do all kits come with a new helix?
Most kits do have a helix but there are a few that don't. If you get us your specific model and year we can let you know for sure.
@@EPIperformance 2019 sportsman 570 looking at the we437184
@@randomoutdoors89 That kit includes a new set of weights, two primary springs (for options for engagement), secondary spring and a helix.
@@EPIperformance thanks will be ordering in a few weeks
@@randomoutdoors89 Sounds good, let us know if you have any other questions.
If you're watching this video for the torque specs he never gives them
Yeah I was waiting for them, maybe someone knows here in the comments or I’ll have to look it up