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  • Опубликовано: 18 авг 2015
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    It's the largest forested wilderness in the lower 48, larger even than some states. Outside of Alaska, only Death Valley Wilderness is larger. So how did the Frank Church River of No Return Wilderness become law?
    We explore that question with a handful of folks who were there and who helped make it happen.
    And we'll visit some of that 2.3 million acres, a landscape where Nature now rolls the dice.
    It's been 35 years since Congress established the River of No Return Wilderness. We take the pulse of this remote, magical vastness, that many now call, simply, The Frank.
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  • @texassalt8999
    @texassalt8999 Месяц назад

    God, I love Idaho. I've lived there twice in my life and visit every summer. I will retire there God willing.

  • @totenfurwotan4478
    @totenfurwotan4478 Год назад +12

    As someone who lives in PA but has spent a lot of time in Idaho….. what an amazing state. I really love being in idaho. Shame Californias are fleeing to that wonderful state

    • @outdoorztime2923
      @outdoorztime2923 9 месяцев назад +2

      Another good thing about Idaho is it's the home of the most Republicans - a Red State for sure and one of the most beautiful. Keep it RED, Idaho. Way to go, Idaho!

    • @totenfurwotan4478
      @totenfurwotan4478 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@outdoorztime2923 hopefully they can keep it that way. Shithead Californians have been flooding out there

    • @vicki2545
      @vicki2545 7 месяцев назад

      Red as in red hair brook

  • @incog99skd11
    @incog99skd11 3 года назад +14

    I live in McCall Idaho and live a hop, skip and a jump from The Church. Please, please, please if you come to visit remember not to leave any trash. It's important to us in Idaho to leave a place cleaner than how you found it.

    • @maddawgnoll
      @maddawgnoll Год назад

      McCall is a cool place. Y'all have some friendly people there. I could live there. One of my favorite stops when I moved here to Montana. Took a few trips going through Idaho and I think McCall was the only spot we spotted regardless... other than getting gas in Salmon.

    • @vicki2545
      @vicki2545 7 месяцев назад

      Uh I try to help my church out by helping less fortunate with maybe clothing them or somebody they might know thank u very much

  • @CplSkiUSMC
    @CplSkiUSMC 7 лет назад +31

    Wilderness is sacred to those who love the outdoors. Next door, here in Wyoming, we have the Absaroka-Beartooth and Washakie (among many others) which are not only near, but very dear to my heart. I spend as much time in them as I can and they sooth my soul every time.

    • @WildWestTrail
      @WildWestTrail 5 лет назад +3

      We hiked the Absaroka-Beartooth last summer on our way from Glacier to Yellowstone. What an incredible place.

  • @nirtlocj
    @nirtlocj 3 года назад +7

    As a native Idahoan who pays close attention to politics, I can say definitively that the creation of the Idaho Primitive Area did NOT cost Frank Church his political career. It was his support of the Panama Canal Treaty that did it. When Senator Church gave away the Panama Canal, Idahoans were VERY much pissed off.

    • @1guarino
      @1guarino 3 года назад

      Like most good things, Frank Church is best appreciated after his death.

    • @vicki2545
      @vicki2545 7 месяцев назад

      Aww maybe they will reconsider and give Panama a chance to prove once and for all how wrong u messed up thinking got u into.

  • @jclikespam7791
    @jclikespam7791 Месяц назад

    Very beautiful area that I have been in a few times. In the south east edge and been taken in when I was working for the forest service. I hope it will be protected forever!!!

  • @thecatshaver0732
    @thecatshaver0732 7 месяцев назад +1

    I did trail maintenance on the Frank Church wilderness for about half a year. I fell in love seeing the plants, the mountain lakes, bugs, the wolves, and the bears. It was hell the first two hitches (10 days of work and 4 off) but once I got myself together it was amazing. I carried all my supplies and tools and just enjoyed everything around me while working like lick lake, Roosevelt trail, suicide rock, snow shoe, acorn, Beaver trail, and stopping in at Yellowpine. I always make time to go back up at least once a year.

  • @therealdrag0
    @therealdrag0 7 лет назад +21

    Let's protect this beautiful country!

  • @cliffanderson7544
    @cliffanderson7544 2 года назад +1

    Lived in Idaho for 3 years. Had to leave. I’m trying to get back there soon. Love this state and all its beautiful places. This was my favorite show to watch every week always had very awesome episodes.

  • @charlieswearingen500
    @charlieswearingen500 7 лет назад +47

    In the 1960s I helped build a new trail in the Big Horn Crags from Heart Lake to Terrace Lakes and down Waterfall Cr towards the Middle Fork. There was an existing trail that came up from Big Creek and dead ended so we were connecting the upper new trail we were building to the lower portion of the existing dead-end trail. This is the trail Peter Morrill mentions in the video. Back then it was named the Idaho Primitive Area and was later rechristened the Frank Church River of No Return Wilderness.
    We couldn't keep more than a skeleton trail crew which consisted of Karl Wennstrom, Pete Ravinsky, Albert Dorn and myself. We hired other help, but they never lasted more than a couple of days before they hiked back out without even asking for their paychecks. Albert Dorn and I were the horse/mule packers traveling about once every few weeks to get our supplies from Challis or Salmon City. Pete was the camp cook and always had homemade bread on hand. Karl and I would take homemade bread and a can of peach halves for lunch. You just haven’t lived until you’ve eaten peach halves between two slices of homemade bread.
    Even though it was designated wilderness we were allowed to use gas powered Cobra rock drills to drill and blast a trail out of the granite. We often had to rappel to drill the dynamite holes into granite cliffs/hillsides. Being young men and full of ourselves we found it great fun to pack the dynamite holes with enough explosive to blast and splash rocks in the Terrace Lakes down below. Big horn sheep usually showed up about mid-day to watch us work. They followed us as we moved down the trail each week and would bed down near us to watch us work while they chewed their cuds. I guess we were great entertainment for them.

    • @RadicalEarth
      @RadicalEarth 7 лет назад +3

      Awesome!

    • @elkobsession
      @elkobsession 7 лет назад +3

      Charlie Swearingen I loved your story you described about your time working in this wilderness, there is a certain romance in your description of the years gone bye, it is a true indication of the wonderful memories you have of your time and your part you had in the creation of this beautiful place, there are for sure hundreds and hundreds of things that you have done and seen back than that only you can tell and pass on, you are a part of that history, you should write a book!!

    • @alexmanion5389
      @alexmanion5389 5 лет назад +2

      Thank you for sharing

    • @WildWestTrail
      @WildWestTrail 5 лет назад +3

      Incredible story, thank you for sharing! Last summer we hiked the ICT (videos on our page); the only thing that could have made it better would have been sliced peach sandwiches.

    • @14149bb
      @14149bb 4 года назад +1

      Thank you real men.paycheck also was the trail.

  • @neenabzamro3759
    @neenabzamro3759 5 лет назад +18

    I wish i could hike these beautiful mountains one day. Greetings from Chicago

    • @adventuresnorthwest3643
      @adventuresnorthwest3643 3 года назад +1

      Please make the plans. Don't wait until you no longer can. Just do it! You will create a lifetime of memories and love for this great wilderness.

    • @busterbeagle2167
      @busterbeagle2167 3 года назад

      What part of the city you live?
      Armitage and kedzie

  • @alphasxsignal
    @alphasxsignal 6 лет назад +15

    I just bought property in Idaho in the mountains and love it.

  • @johnfearnley4258
    @johnfearnley4258 7 лет назад +7

    i just want to say a big thankyou to all the people who fight to safe these great places i just wish i could visit

  • @totenfurwotan4478
    @totenfurwotan4478 Год назад

    Lol watching those otters belly slide on the side is too cute

  • @alphasxsignal
    @alphasxsignal 6 лет назад +6

    Pretty country.

  • @martinavaslovik3433
    @martinavaslovik3433 7 лет назад +6

    What a beautiful video presentation! Thank you!

  • @1guarino
    @1guarino 3 года назад +2

    Like most visionaries and heroes, Frank Church became fully appreciated after his death.

  • @CplSkiUSMC
    @CplSkiUSMC 4 года назад +7

    I spend my time in the Absaroka-Beartooth wilderness areas because that's where I live, but I'd love to explore the Frank and the Bob before I cash in my chips.

    • @clvrswine
      @clvrswine 3 года назад

      I was at Crazy Creek last Summer. Will be returning.

  • @dougewing1571
    @dougewing1571 Год назад

    Would be a dream of mine to just stay there forever. I love the wilderness......

    • @vicki2545
      @vicki2545 7 месяцев назад

      Mine to but only with a person that wants to be real

  • @eltriunfodeuncazador7328
    @eltriunfodeuncazador7328 4 года назад +3

    Nice video 👍

  • @christopherchristianity2379
    @christopherchristianity2379 8 лет назад +3

    Nice places

  • @diankreczmer6595
    @diankreczmer6595 Год назад

    Ouch, that looked like an! excellent headache

  • @matthewseel5961
    @matthewseel5961 Год назад

    wow that Colorado sure is beautiful.

    • @outdoorztime2923
      @outdoorztime2923 9 месяцев назад

      It sure is! The only draw back is it's a BLUE State.

  • @WildWestTrail
    @WildWestTrail 4 года назад +4

    This is probably the most comprehensive video taking place in the Frank besides our own. We watched this a bunch of times to prepare for the Idaho Centennial Trail. We have a bunch of 4k footage from last summer that takes place in the Frank; check out our page if interested.

    • @vicki2545
      @vicki2545 7 месяцев назад

      Oh yes I am very interested but has anybody heard of a thing called right to privacy ? I'm pretty sure our fore fathers wrote it down for people that are unknownly being invaded that does not really make them any better then the low thief

  • @mikecash6672
    @mikecash6672 6 лет назад +16

    I've got a pocket full of wolf tags and the time and ability to do my part! Looking forward to Fall 2018!

    • @salmonandtrout4813
      @salmonandtrout4813 5 лет назад +3

      hope you get some wolves save an elk today. call 1-800 save an elk today to save an elk just kidding but go get some wolves!

    • @ourbeach4001
      @ourbeach4001 3 года назад +2

      The wolves don’t need your time or “ability”

    • @1guarino
      @1guarino 3 года назад

      Gee. What a hero.

    • @vicki2545
      @vicki2545 7 месяцев назад

      Lmao that's fine I'm sure God will grant me a very special kind of healing

  • @jessicasmyth7722
    @jessicasmyth7722 7 лет назад +3

    ❤️❤️❤️

  • @DavidHuber63
    @DavidHuber63 Год назад

    Should not be any question about it!

  • @hiandrewfisher
    @hiandrewfisher 3 года назад

    Idaho is so small, I've randomly met two of the people featured in this.

  • @doctorartphd6463
    @doctorartphd6463 4 года назад +6

    In reality, the Forest Service began locating Canadian wolves, who not only kill for food, they also kill for sport. Indigenous mountain lions are not responsible for reductions in Elk (and Deer, and others)...it's the wolves.

    • @1guarino
      @1guarino 3 года назад

      Lots of folks value wolves as much as elk. Learn to live with it.

    • @doctorartphd6463
      @doctorartphd6463 3 года назад +3

      @@1guarino I and the rest of us love animals for many reason, as much as the next guy - except... Frankly, where these Canadian wolves roam, we don't give a shit about what you or anyone else thinks...
      It's not your livestock and local game animals being attacked.
      So, you learn to live with THAT ! Do what you want in your own area.... but we know the damage being done...apparently you are unaware, Ed.

  • @waynesteakley9772
    @waynesteakley9772 3 года назад +3

    I disagree! it's important to share! without the Wilderness airfields, that would be almost impossible.. . Just remember folks! leave it better than you found it!!!

  • @charleslloyd1683
    @charleslloyd1683 4 года назад +8

    As these people call themselves environmentalist. They should understand that wild fires are not an environmental threat. But are beneficial to the environment by cleansing old diseased and suffocating brush and trees. And rebirth of the environment. And food plots for birds and animals.

    • @johneason6540
      @johneason6540 4 года назад +1

      So true, walk thru a burn area 1 or 2 years later and look what nature did, beautiful new growth and flowers.

    • @Zcasey1932
      @Zcasey1932 4 года назад +1

      These wildfires in the Idaho forests are not standard fires. Since the bark beetles have arrived and killed so many trees it makes massive amounts of fuel for super fires. They burn so hot that they sterilize the soil. Nothing grows back, and creates massive mud slides in the spring that often fall into water sources. ALL Forest needs management. The earth is changing, and “environmentalists” only want to talk about the human impact on “global warming”, but not the fact that if we do nothing all our wilderness will be burnt to a crisp if we sit back and do nothing.

    • @johnphipps4105
      @johnphipps4105 3 года назад

      That and nature is self destructive, ergo all the species and habitats that have gone extinct over the millennia. People always give nature too much credit as if it is some sort of perfect god when it is not. Forests also migrate, but the forests of the inner pacific northwest are trapped within a general region. If proper logging(not stupid logging) does not take place, there will be a massive build up of fuel, causing a crown fire. This will cause soil acidification, literally killing the earth, and requiring man lead intervention afterwards. The environmentalists pushing for wilderness areas do not care about those places as they have all to often admitted. It is about control and pompous self righteousness on their part, which is too bad. Doesnt help when the forest service destroys bridges, dont maintain roads, make it impossible for local volunteers to fight fires, erase things off the map, and destroy old artifacts such as cabins, just to go on ahead and deny those things ever existed. My family has been in the Hells canyon country of idaho for 160 years, and during that time we have been ranchers and loggers, caretakers and part of the land.

    • @charleslloyd4253
      @charleslloyd4253 3 года назад +3

      @@johnphipps4105 The earth is constantly evolving and changing. But people today get alarmed at change from what they seen and know. Blaming humans for the change. Today blame is the name of the game. Every body blames someone for any change. Ignoring facts like Iceland is now green. And Greenland is now ice. And there are fossils of great seas, lakes and forest in the deserts and sea fossils in the mountains.

    • @nmelkhunter1
      @nmelkhunter1 3 года назад

      Exactly.

  • @WyomingTraveler
    @WyomingTraveler Год назад

    A fun “scary “ story

  • @geezerhull
    @geezerhull 3 года назад +1

    Pack more out than in. even if you have to hunt for half an hour to find a cigarette butt.

  • @thatwhiteguy5541
    @thatwhiteguy5541 5 лет назад +6

    I'm moving there! I've explored all I could in the smokies and about had enough of these hillbillies

    • @nmelkhunter1
      @nmelkhunter1 3 года назад +2

      You are an arrogant ass.

    • @thatwhiteguy5541
      @thatwhiteguy5541 3 года назад

      @@nmelkhunter1 I take it you're an inbred hillbilly with sensitivity issues. I bet you're a fat slob who lives in a trailer park who only gets off your ass long enough to get your disability check so you can buy some meth and then go elk hunting.
      I'm glad we had this conversation here and not on the phone because I'd probably not be able to understand a single word you were saying,
      Even if I have seen the movie DELIVERANCE several times.

    • @nmelkhunter1
      @nmelkhunter1 3 года назад

      @@thatwhiteguy5541 6’ and 185 isn’t fat. Come to New Mexico and hunt elk with me. But get some life insurance first since I’ll walk your sorry ass into the ground and the elevation will do you in.

    • @thatwhiteguy5541
      @thatwhiteguy5541 3 года назад

      @@nmelkhunter1 tough guy huh? Would probably be more believable if it weren't for your whiney bitch reply first. Busted. At least I learned that bullshit can be piled 6' high. Thank you for teaching that to me 😂

  • @diankreczmer6595
    @diankreczmer6595 Год назад

    Excedrin headache=when the elk hit

  • @vicki2545
    @vicki2545 7 месяцев назад

    Frank or Adman

  • @michaelsmith2733
    @michaelsmith2733 3 года назад

    That's wilderness Idaho pork. I hope that sow always keeps oinking.

  • @TOMMYSURIA
    @TOMMYSURIA 7 лет назад +10

    Still, needs to be managed or it will turn into a tinderbox.

    • @nmelkhunter1
      @nmelkhunter1 4 года назад

      WELL SAID!!!

    • @JohnSmith-wv1db
      @JohnSmith-wv1db 4 года назад +5

      Fire will manage it just the way it's done for millennia. You don't have to make logging roads and bring in heavy equipment. Perhaps you don't quite understand how things were before the invention of the combustion engine and endless miles of dirt Roads throughout the National Forest. Fire, for better or for worse, manages the Forest all on its own.

    • @nmelkhunter1
      @nmelkhunter1 4 года назад +1

      @John Smith The problem with your approach is most forest are very over grown because of a lack of fire caused by the fire management approach for the last 100 plus years. Also, we can continue logging as long as we do so intelligently. Mechanical thinning works well when the fuel load can lead to fires that scorch the top soil and leave it effectively infertile. Mechanical thinning works really well in PJ forest that are very over grown.

    • @TOMMYSURIA
      @TOMMYSURIA 4 года назад

      @@JohnSmith-wv1db ⚡ Anyone?

    • @lukechapman3701
      @lukechapman3701 3 года назад

      Looks like its been hit hard with agent orange to me.

  • @DavidHuber63
    @DavidHuber63 Год назад

    Yes, those people settled this country after we took it from America's first people.

  • @prex345
    @prex345 3 года назад +2

    Church went after the CIA, that's what killed his career.

    • @1guarino
      @1guarino 3 года назад

      Can't tell if you are joking. Church was voted out by a coalition of true idiots.

  • @funbomb1102
    @funbomb1102 3 года назад

    No I think a lot of people look at it like, it’s a place that’s controlled by government

    • @1guarino
      @1guarino 3 года назад

      Such a jaded viewpoint, F bomb.

  • @pridelandlions
    @pridelandlions 8 лет назад

    I actually find you funny. You're really smart and I'm not just saying that. Really. I don't think that it's a trick of Satan. Lol! Is that even something people say?

  • @TedHeistman
    @TedHeistman 7 лет назад +7

    The wolves there aren't long for the world. Idaho Fish and game decided to eradicate them. They give away tags for $11.50 with a 10 wolf bag limit, plus they have government hunters flying into the Frank church and shooting them from planes.

  • @pridelandlions
    @pridelandlions 8 лет назад

    Yes. I actually do believe it. What is evidence in your opinion? Creationist and evolutionist have the same evidence we just interpret it differently. I honestly don't like to argue though. I just felt like I had something important to say on this one, but obviously you disagree. It was kinda crazy for me to talk about space and then amoebas. Sorry. Anyway I realize Christians in general don't handle this topic very well. I'm a Christian and I don't handle it great either. I don't like to tell people off or anything. I'm not one of those people who yell "Jesus" at random strangers on the streets. The only real answer I have to this is that science is observation. You can't call it scientific fact if you didn't see earth when it formed.

  • @jtcorisis
    @jtcorisis 7 лет назад +6

    funny only the rich are the true beneficiarys ,air planes,jet boats and ranches

    • @1PickJesus
      @1PickJesus 5 лет назад +3

      I'm not rich. you don't have to be to learn how to fly and rent an airplane

    • @johnphipps4105
      @johnphipps4105 3 года назад

      He is right though. The rich are the only that benefit, everyone else(who are mainly the poor in terms of money making) are cut off the land their families have lived on for generations in total egalitarianism in regards to social class(a millionaire and a person living without running water would be neighbors and best friends) are crammed into cities, their identity destroyed, made wage slaves to the rich, and the federal government destroy all traces of these people, and deny that they were ever there

  • @hukphin740
    @hukphin740 3 года назад +1

    20:24 "cougar populations are self regulating" lol...lmfao...how did this make it through editing and fact checking. My 1st degree was in Biology and others after, but this statement has absolutely NO validity🙄🙄

  • @harrykrebs
    @harrykrebs 4 года назад +7

    Pro wolf is a sure way to build anti wilderness sentiment. Canadian wolves belong in Canada.

  • @lennarthagen3638
    @lennarthagen3638 3 года назад

    This is BS

    • @1guarino
      @1guarino 3 года назад +3

      Sorry. Did all that thinking give you a headache?

    • @millfilm1
      @millfilm1 5 месяцев назад

      You forgot the P