There are so many amazing persons out there with all this knowledge, crap im glad we have internet so i can find and listen to more of them :) Thanks for another interesting video, Sofilein you are amazing at finding these guys :)
@Feeds Ravens Yup. This issue provided most cars after the war being made with classic layout - front for steering, rear for the drive. This became resolved within a budget possible solution as late as the end of the 70s. It's actually the only reason FWD cars are cheaper now than the RWD ones.
@Feeds Ravens I guess it should be viewed as a continuation of the inter war german solution for a four wheel drive vehicle by having two engines, one for each pair of wheels^^
@Feeds Ravens You may call it engineering overkill, but its how all of todays heavy off road wheeled equipment is constructed. So i guess it is a winning concept, and You get what You pay for. Rommel used it himself! What its missing compared to todays vehicles are high flotation tires and adjustable tire pressure on the move. The level of tire technology till long after WWII was only good enough for light wheeled off-road vehicles. Now You know why any heavy armoured car failed more or less at the time.
@Feeds Ravens I now see You speak only about the 222 and would like to replace it by something similar to I guess an M3. I can see that and agree with You, I somehow misinterpreted Your comment. I got the M8 in mind replacing the 234. My comment was meant for a vehicle with more then 2 axles.
Steve Holmes Hilary could explain the installation of a toilet and hold your attention as you eagerly await each word. There is no comparison with someone who has read about these vehicles and someone like Hilary who knows intimately. Absolutely the best. And I still say he looks like Sofilein’s grandfather!
Sofilein I can’t help but think how Hilary looks like he could be your grandfather. It’s like watching two generations of family sharing the same hobby and then sharing with us! Can’t wait for your next collaboration. Thanks for showing us things most of us will never get to see ourselves.
@@steveturner3999 it is a fantastic relationship between those two formed from a shared passion its it's really heart warming to see sofelein have such passion at such a young age
I can't figure out why they make it premium only and cost like $160 actual dollars. They are insane. And like the three people who own them must be insane too.
Larry Thorn it was a previous event vehicle, it’s people who earned it and didn’t use it themselves that are selling it for the ridiculous money. Look at the E-100, IS7 etc they’re all worse!
Not having to face late war vehicles? I've taken the 5cm tech tree version out with a MiG 15 and killed late cold war vehicles with it 🤣 Did you know there's a special medal with a 10k reward for killing a vehicle 8 BRs higher?
Sofi, Another great video from Hilary Doyle, the master of WWII German AFV's. The 8 rad armoured cars are really cool, especially the later ones. This is a rare bird. Thank you for bringing it to us
As usual a very interesting video on a very good Sd.Kfz 242/4! I'm a bit surprised that he forgot to mention that it was powered with the Tatra 103 V12 diesel engine with 210 hp. The Sd.Kfz. 234 variants was the first and only German armoured vehicle to use an air cooled diesel engine. It curious because it was well known the advantages of having an air-cooled engine that could be dispensed with complicated pipes and vulnerable radiators, making it more resistant to battle damage and freezing cold or heat like in Africa. Perhaps the only great disadvantage that it needed noisy power absorbing big fans. Yet the Kubelwagen never had problems both in Africa or the Russian freezing fields. Good job again 👍👍
@@mbr5742 my problem is I hear very badly, I need hearing aids so I didn't hear...! Yes Tatra did proposed powerful diesel air-cooled engines for vehicles like the Sd.Kfz 9 Famo and actually was built a few prototypes but for reasons I never understood it was never putted in production. Fundamentally the diesel engine has never gained great favour at the Wehrmacht despite knowing advantages like more efficient fuel consumption but also was less powerful....
@@paoloviti6156 They used two systems. One (Fisher-Tropp) could definitly produce lubrication oil and diesel. I have not found percentages on what products the process produced. So it might be "10 percent diesel, 70 percent petrol, 20 percent other" or it might be 40:40 or any other ratio.
German tank industry manufactured just 89 units of the Sd.Kfz.234/4 at the order of Adolf Hitler, who wanted to get more anti-tank guns into action against the increasing numbers of Allied tanks in Western Europe. Information on the Sd.Kfz.234/4 is scarce. While its Pak 40 75mm cannon made it formidable, its open top superstructure and thin armor rendered the vehicle highly vulnerable. Indeed, a number of WW2 photos appeared showing destroyed 234/4 armored cars lying on the sides of roads. Given just a small number of 234/4's, its influence on the Western Front could only have been negligible. Hitler may have had the right idea of putting more anti-tank cannons into action but choosing the Sd.Kfz.234 chassis, which was meant for reconnaissance, scouting, screening, and flank security, made the decision questionable. The best inexpensive and easy to produce German tank destroyers were the StuG III and the Hetzer. Both had thicker armor and better chances of surviving.
You’re looking at it with hindsight they wanted needed self propelled guns and that’s why it was produced. They hadn’t the luxury time or resources to produce stugs or hetzers .
Sofi & Hilary great to learn more about a rare vehicle from the master- thank you....anyone see how the current Boxer APC are related to these early 8 wheelers?
Are those the original fenders? They appear to be a simplified version of the ones I've seen before in photographs - lacking as many doors for storage boxes, and the doors themselves seem to be missing their inset latches. Whilst the exhaust mufflers at the back are incomplete - though the attachment points for them appear to be there. Some late production measures perhaps?
@@lavrentivs9891 actually it was badly repaired on some parts of the fenders. If you look at the photos of the Sd.Kfz. 234/4 you will see that it had on both sides it has panels that can be opened to store tools or whatever but most of them are being welded...
Would agree with you there. Being a Brit, the term 'fender' threw me but 'yes' I was also wondering if these were originals. But the only reason I had my doubts was a nostalgic one(!) - I fondly recall assembling the Airfix plastic kit of that vehicle when I was a kid and the mudguards (fenders) shown in that video immediately struck me as not being 'right' 8-) 8-)
Fast open top hunter, risky but sharp as a knife. Oh, that next door Panther and the big Jagdtiger in the back l could live there . Mr Doyle really knows his stuff. Love his books. Publish one yourself Sofi, from a different angle (how WOT got you hooked on armor or reverse😉)Should be interesting. That M103 caught your camera, no ? Great stuff, keep them coming.
I bet under combat condition it would be very hard to line that gun up for a accurate shot against a enemy tank and you sure wouldn't want to hang around too long with the thin armor and open top once shots were being exchanged, it would be suited as tank destroyer role wait in ambush in a concealed position fire off a shot or two then retreat at full speed to another concealed spot, I think I would rather have a rotating turret on my recon vehicle with maybe a dual or even a quad 20mm or 50mm semi automatic gun with its purpose not to engage in firefights with heavy opposition but lay down a cover fire to pin the enemy down while I beat a hasty retreat back to my lines
I'm always amazed after seeing some of these either in person or on a video how either small or large they actually are. Building a model of an earlier version of this make me think that was huge-- no, despite it being 8 wheels, it's not. However, when I visited a local American Legion with an impressive collection of vehicles outside, the height of an M60A3 was massive while the Abrams I found at the VTANG museum was definitely lower, sleeker and seemed smaller, even though it was not. Fascinating how we've come full circle back to 8 wheelers. Thanks for a great video again! Makes social distancing much more enjoyable.
I'd love a more detailed tour of these A.C.s. There were few of this model made. Perhaps 150 or so. The same with it's other variants. The reason being it was quite complicated to build. Yup, another piece of German engineering.
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Hilary's knowledge cannot be questioned. Very well presented. His artwork is second to none also. I love his line drawings.
I like very much the Sd.Kfz. 234 variants and I find it a shame to see this very rare vehicle in sad condition otherwise a good job again as usual 👍👍
There are so many amazing persons out there with all this knowledge, crap im glad we have internet so i can find and listen to more of them :)
Thanks for another interesting video, Sofilein you are amazing at finding these guys :)
Outstanding video and presentation.
Eight wheel drive and eight wheel steering? Now I need to see one of these in action!
@Feeds Ravens Yup. This issue provided most cars after the war being made with classic layout - front for steering, rear for the drive. This became resolved within a budget possible solution as late as the end of the 70s. It's actually the only reason FWD cars are cheaper now than the RWD ones.
@Feeds Ravens I guess it should be viewed as a continuation of the inter war german solution for a four wheel drive vehicle by having two engines, one for each pair of wheels^^
@@HanSolo__ Perhaps You should research the Citroen 2CV ?
@Feeds Ravens You may call it engineering overkill, but its how all of todays heavy off road wheeled equipment is constructed. So i guess it is a winning concept, and You get what You pay for. Rommel used it himself!
What its missing compared to todays vehicles are high flotation tires and adjustable tire pressure on the move. The level of tire technology till long after WWII was only good enough for light wheeled off-road vehicles. Now You know why any heavy armoured car failed more or less at the time.
@Feeds Ravens I now see You speak only about the 222 and would like to replace it by something similar to I guess an M3. I can see that and agree with You, I somehow misinterpreted Your comment.
I got the M8 in mind replacing the 234. My comment was meant for a vehicle with more then 2 axles.
Glad you are covering the Sdk's
Keep it up Sofi, always good to see this quality content.
I, LOVE, this car. By far my favorite car of all time
I could listen to his holiness of German armour hilary doyle explain a WW 2 German old drum i am such a nerd and i don't care lol
Same, honestly he's the best
Steve Holmes Hilary could explain the installation of a toilet and hold your attention as you eagerly await each word. There is no comparison with someone who has read about these vehicles and someone like Hilary who knows intimately. Absolutely the best. And I still say he looks like Sofilein’s grandfather!
@@steveturner3999 oh his knowledge is far superior compared to other experts and he is king nerd for me lol
Sofilein I can’t help but think how Hilary looks like he could be your grandfather. It’s like watching two generations of family sharing the same hobby and then sharing with us! Can’t wait for your next collaboration. Thanks for showing us things most of us will never get to see ourselves.
@@steveturner3999 it is a fantastic relationship between those two formed from a shared passion its it's really heart warming to see sofelein have such passion at such a young age
Oh how I hate these things in War Thunder. Fast, deadly and undertiered, not having to face late war vehicles.
I can't figure out why they make it premium only and cost like $160 actual dollars. They are insane. And like the three people who own them must be insane too.
Larry Thorn it was a previous event vehicle, it’s people who earned it and didn’t use it themselves that are selling it for the ridiculous money. Look at the E-100, IS7 etc they’re all worse!
Not having to face late war vehicles? I've taken the 5cm tech tree version out with a MiG 15 and killed late cold war vehicles with it 🤣
Did you know there's a special medal with a 10k reward for killing a vehicle 8 BRs higher?
@@polygondwanaland8390 I'm not saying that can't bring it into high tier battles, but you don't have to since it has a medium tier BR.
@@larrythorn4715 I am insane then, picked this thing up for 75 euro
Wow, great info and video. Thank you
The Part that struck me the most was the rubber boots on the axle shaft. at 25seconds in. That right there appears to be an ahead of its time design.
Sofi, Another great video from Hilary Doyle, the master of WWII German AFV's. The 8 rad armoured cars are really cool, especially the later ones. This is a rare bird. Thank you for bringing it to us
As usual a very interesting video on a very good Sd.Kfz 242/4! I'm a bit surprised that he forgot to mention that it was powered with the Tatra 103 V12 diesel engine with 210 hp. The Sd.Kfz. 234 variants was the first and only German armoured vehicle to use an air cooled diesel engine. It curious because it was well known the advantages of having an air-cooled engine that could be dispensed with complicated pipes and vulnerable radiators, making it more resistant to battle damage and freezing cold or heat like in Africa. Perhaps the only great disadvantage that it needed noisy power absorbing big fans. Yet the Kubelwagen never had problems both in Africa or the Russian freezing fields. Good job again 👍👍
He does mention the Tatra diesel around 1:20
@@mbr5742 my problem is I hear very badly, I need hearing aids so I didn't hear...! Yes Tatra did proposed powerful diesel air-cooled engines for vehicles like the Sd.Kfz 9 Famo and actually was built a few prototypes but for reasons I never understood it was never putted in production. Fundamentally the diesel engine has never gained great favour at the Wehrmacht despite knowing advantages like more efficient fuel consumption but also was less powerful....
@@paoloviti6156 Maybe due to germany getting part of the fuel from lignite coal conversion and IIRC the process is better at producing petrol
@@mbr5742 it could be as you say but don't forget that they had synthetic oil extracted from coal...
@@paoloviti6156 They used two systems. One (Fisher-Tropp) could definitly produce lubrication oil and diesel. I have not found percentages on what products the process produced. So it might be "10 percent diesel, 70 percent petrol, 20 percent other" or it might be 40:40 or any other ratio.
When I was at ft Hood we had a btln of Soviet track vehicles ECT!
German tank industry manufactured just 89 units of the Sd.Kfz.234/4 at the order of Adolf Hitler, who wanted to get more anti-tank guns into action against the increasing numbers of Allied tanks in Western Europe.
Information on the Sd.Kfz.234/4 is scarce. While its Pak 40 75mm cannon made it formidable, its open top superstructure and thin armor rendered the vehicle highly vulnerable. Indeed, a number of WW2 photos appeared showing destroyed 234/4 armored cars lying on the sides of roads. Given just a small number of 234/4's, its influence on the Western Front could only have been negligible. Hitler may have had the right idea of putting more anti-tank cannons into action but choosing the Sd.Kfz.234 chassis, which was meant for reconnaissance, scouting, screening, and flank security, made the decision questionable. The best inexpensive and easy to produce German tank destroyers were the StuG III and the Hetzer. Both had thicker armor and better chances of surviving.
You’re looking at it with hindsight they wanted needed self propelled guns and that’s why it was produced. They hadn’t the luxury time or resources to produce stugs or hetzers .
I like the Puma with the (Panzer 3?) bug gun. And the Auto cannon one.
Yes the 234/2 had the same 5cm KwK 39 as the late Pz IIIs, although the turret was from the failed Vk 16.02
Y'all need to come back to the NACC soon!
Sofi & Hilary great to learn more about a rare vehicle from the master- thank you....anyone see how the current Boxer APC are related to these early 8 wheelers?
The Boxer is more following on from the BTR60 concept of wheeled apc
schwerer panzerspähwagen 7.5 cm sonderkraftfahrzeug 234/4 panzerabwehrkanonen wagen
Are those the original fenders? They appear to be a simplified version of the ones I've seen before in photographs - lacking as many doors for storage boxes, and the doors themselves seem to be missing their inset latches. Whilst the exhaust mufflers at the back are incomplete - though the attachment points for them appear to be there. Some late production measures perhaps?
Looks like they might be crumbling a bit from rust too, so probably very damaged if the originals
@@lavrentivs9891 actually it was badly repaired on some parts of the fenders. If you look at the photos of the Sd.Kfz. 234/4 you will see that it had on both sides it has panels that can be opened to store tools or whatever but most of them are being welded...
Would agree with you there. Being a Brit, the term 'fender' threw me but 'yes' I was also wondering if these were originals. But the only reason I had my doubts was a nostalgic one(!) - I fondly recall assembling the Airfix plastic kit of that vehicle when I was a kid and the mudguards (fenders) shown in that video immediately struck me as not being 'right' 8-) 8-)
@@DH.2016 being an Italian when I was a young boy I was assembling some Airfix models of various kinds. What scale was your model? 🤔🤔
@@paoloviti6156 Now you are asking - it wasn't yesterday 8-) . Probably 1/76 scale?
thirty years ahead of its time
Fast open top hunter, risky but sharp as a knife. Oh, that next door Panther and the big Jagdtiger in the back l could live there . Mr Doyle really knows his stuff. Love his books. Publish one yourself Sofi, from a different angle (how WOT got you hooked on armor or reverse😉)Should be interesting. That M103 caught your camera, no ? Great stuff, keep them coming.
Eight wheel drive and rear steering
That’s pretty advanced technology, just needed beefed up tyre width
I bet under combat condition it would be very hard to line that gun up for a accurate shot against a enemy tank and you sure wouldn't want to hang around too long with the thin armor and open top once shots were being exchanged, it would be suited as tank destroyer role wait in ambush in a concealed position fire off a shot or two then retreat at full speed to another concealed spot, I think I would rather have a rotating turret on my recon vehicle with maybe a dual or even a quad 20mm or 50mm semi automatic gun with its purpose not to engage in firefights with heavy opposition but lay down a cover fire to pin the enemy down while I beat a hasty retreat back to my lines
some people see this and they say ou look a crap of junk or metal , I see this as gold well depends on everyone's hobby right that puma is beautfiful
I didn’t know there was a 234/4 still existing. Can’t wait for it to go on public display
There is also one in the Panzermuseum in Munster, Germany
My only complaint. Vids to short! Be nice to have a 360 vid walk-a-round and a peek into the fighting compartment. Cheers!
Great comment section, a shame this wasn't an in depth w/engine sounds, etc.
Doyle does know his stuff. Thanks for sharing.
Thats a sad looking machine, hope they restore it sooner or later.
Shame there is not much told more of the legendary Tatra T111 engine.
It is a shame they aren’t up and running!
Don't you worry. They will be. :)
Looks like a Skorpion G prototype
Is this available new, or refurb only?
Too short! This is a terrific vehicle, why not show the inside?
He looks like valed, creator of the daleks....
The state of it is terrifying. Pity they do not conserve it better.
I'm always amazed after seeing some of these either in person or on a video how either small or large they actually are. Building a model of an earlier version of this make me think that was huge-- no, despite it being 8 wheels, it's not. However, when I visited a local American Legion with an impressive collection of vehicles outside, the height of an M60A3 was massive while the Abrams I found at the VTANG museum was definitely lower, sleeker and seemed smaller, even though it was not.
Fascinating how we've come full circle back to 8 wheelers. Thanks for a great video again! Makes social distancing much more enjoyable.
The Sound Quality is so worse, we cannot understand much...
Yeah the guy is a blowhard...much better info at AHF
I wish Chieftan would do this one.
I'm kinda like that ARV next to it. What is the name of that?
M578
Imagine a 175mm SPG on this platform. Absurdly long 175mm in fact.
During 2nd world war German military equipment is very powerful
Good stuff! Needed to be a little longer though. Perhaps he could've expanded on its operational experience...or is that a vid for another time?
T29, T30, T34 use these as torsion bars
Incrível blindado!
Must be a bad neighborhood, that Panther up on blocks, tracks gone. Someone prolly yoiked the catalytic converter too...
Wanna know how I know you've never been around Ft. Benning?
@@MatthewSmith-71 You realize that was a joke right?
AND THE ENGINE ISSSSS?????? TATRA 103 from Czechoslovakia!!!!
Be nice to see that vehicle restored and running.
goddamn! those fenders! what happened? ex girfriend with a baseball bat???
You can never go wrong with Hilary Doyle in your video. Wonder if these will ever show up as "wheelies" in WoT.
One of my favorites
I'd love a more detailed tour of these A.C.s. There were few of this model made. Perhaps 150 or so. The same with it's other variants. The reason being it was quite complicated to build. Yup, another piece of German engineering.
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He needs to wear a lapel mic.
War thunder ?
Thicker than the /2
Ok?
Badest...Audio..ever