I flew several 1124's in corporate service in the 1980s, with over 4,000 hours in type. I was even an FAA Check Airman for several years. It was a solid transport that could carry eight pax plus luggage from the Midwest to the West Coast non-stop (a four hour flight). I thought it was an easy aircraft to fly if you flew it by the numbers and respected its limitations.
I can see how it could come off that way, but I moreso observe a professional, no bs, detail-oriented Captain. There’s a point where relaxed becomes lazy and many are not willing to discover exactly where that point lies in order to keep themselves and their passengers safe and alive.
Hes running the cockpit single pilot The co pilot is a gear and flap operator and maybe a radio call if the captain lets him 2 check and trainers i had during my first jet training in the the westwind required slow hands and a relaxed environment This guy wouldnt have lasted 5 seconds with my trainers Fast hands and no checklist is an accident waiting to happen Slow down mate and cut back on the redbulls 👍🤣
I'm sure this captain has a lot of time in this aircraft and is a good pilot, but if he is operating on a 135 or 121 ticket, a senior CFI or chief pilot needs to sit him down and start from scratch on his cockpit management skills. He is in a hurry during preflight, not using a checklist, getting ahead of his first officer/not waiting for FO acknowledgment, and seems very impulsive. Impulsivity is one of the five hazards FAA has identified as dangerous attitudes for ATP pilots. He needs to slow down, stop waving his hands around the cockpit, and work as a team with the person in the right seat. That is why the right-seater is sitting there! I'm not trying to be a jerk and I wish the captain the best of luck, but pilots are responsible for each soul that boards the aircraft and no pilot is so good (or has so many hours) that rules, regulations, and checklists, don't apply to them.
As an SOE Captain for a regional airline, I cringed many times watching this man work. He’s a one-man show with no CRM at all. If I saw this behavior in one of my students, we would have a long talk before we even pushed back from the gate.
Ron Paul has one of those, or had. I met his pilots at Dulles when the space shuttle was being flown in on the 747. Neat plane. Started out as a Rockwell Jet Commander.
I have time on these in the early 90s. The avionics here are different - the NCS (Navigation Control System?) which was used to tune the Nav and Com radios has been removed....
This Captain seems to be a camera hog he’s pushing switches multiple times his F/O seems lost and there’s CRM It looks like a one show. Not impressed at all
The performance was good, quite a bump into the seats when brakes were released at takeoff. Climb performance was good, too. I am sure it could have climbed faster than we did, nevertheless it was impressive.
Checklist:
1: Touch every single switch
2: Call Ground
The captain looks and acts like he's had one too many Mt. Dews for breakfast and the copilot looks lost.
Man I think its may be a little something more than Mt. DEW! LOL
I agree
Yup
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You guys didn't really look like you were following a checklist.
I flew several 1124's in corporate service in the 1980s, with over 4,000 hours in type. I was even an FAA Check Airman for several years. It was a solid transport that could carry eight pax plus luggage from the Midwest to the West Coast non-stop (a four hour flight). I thought it was an easy aircraft to fly if you flew it by the numbers and respected its limitations.
Dude is FAAARRRRR too intense. I'd be looking for the exit window and I'm a pilot.
Captain seemed very edgy almost nervous.
How can one person be this busy? The first officer is basically a passenger.
I really enjoyed this video of a now quite rare aircraft. The captain didn’t look relaxed at all though 😮
Yes, he was a bit hectic :D but very experienced (several thousand hours on the Westwind alone) and a great guy. Really hospitable crew and airline.
I can see how it could come off that way, but I moreso observe a professional, no bs, detail-oriented Captain. There’s a point where relaxed becomes lazy and many are not willing to discover exactly where that point lies in order to keep themselves and their passengers safe and alive.
Agreed. Hands all over the place is too distracting.
Hes running the cockpit single pilot
The co pilot is a gear and flap operator and maybe a radio call if the captain lets him
2 check and trainers i had during my first jet training in the the westwind required slow hands and a relaxed environment
This guy wouldnt have lasted 5 seconds with my trainers
Fast hands and no checklist is an accident waiting to happen
Slow down mate and cut back on the redbulls 👍🤣
I'm sure this captain has a lot of time in this aircraft and is a good pilot, but if he is operating on a 135 or 121 ticket, a senior CFI or chief pilot needs to sit him down and start from scratch on his cockpit management skills. He is in a hurry during preflight, not using a checklist, getting ahead of his first officer/not waiting for FO acknowledgment, and seems very impulsive. Impulsivity is one of the five hazards FAA has identified as dangerous attitudes for ATP pilots. He needs to slow down, stop waving his hands around the cockpit, and work as a team with the person in the right seat. That is why the right-seater is sitting there! I'm not trying to be a jerk and I wish the captain the best of luck, but pilots are responsible for each soul that boards the aircraft and no pilot is so good (or has so many hours) that rules, regulations, and checklists, don't apply to them.
Absolutely correct. This video is a demonstration on what NOT to do.
As an SOE Captain for a regional airline, I cringed many times watching this man work. He’s a one-man show with no CRM at all. If I saw this behavior in one of my students, we would have a long talk before we even pushed back from the gate.
Meth is a powerful drug
Interesting looking plane, wings are in the middle of the fuselage, a bit like in Aerostar 600.
Not suprising the original designer of the aerostar also had a hand in the jet commander and Westwind
Ive flown all three about 4000 hours
Ron Paul has one of those, or had. I met his pilots at Dulles when the space shuttle was being flown in on the 747. Neat plane. Started out as a Rockwell Jet Commander.
Old school cool. Love the Westwind/Commander series.
This tripreport is one of the best i seen
Does the pilot seems a little jumpy or was it just my impressio
That dude is coked out to the max!!
One of my favorite aircraft, such a nice looking jet. Wish there was more of a cabin tour of it. Still a great video and much appreciated.
Amazing video , Loran!!!
No way I would fly with that pilot.
No stairs needed to board that lower rider :)
I have time on these in the early 90s. The avionics here are different - the NCS (Navigation Control System?) which was used to tune the Nav and Com radios has been removed....
You do manage to fly on some rare airplanes.
this was taken on my 16th birthday :)
Freaking GREAT JET
Who's here after that incident at NAIA airport 🖐
Still waiting for that investigation report. See you back here in 1 year.
The left seater is Captain Joe cool. Cocky and arrogant LOL
Is this the same aircraft type that exploded at NAIA?
yes
Yep
Made in Israel. Looks like this is the lowride of jets ;) amazing video.
Great video, Like the design of this aircraft
This Captain seems to be a camera hog he’s pushing switches multiple times his F/O seems lost and there’s CRM It looks like a one show. Not impressed at all
Nice vintage aircraft, but the captain needs to SLOW DOWN. Not professional, and not safe either.
I miss the ol girl. My only jet time.
If someone had thoughts about purchasing this very rare jet what would be your advice to that person ?
Not no, but FUCK no
@@sparky6200 these jets are cheap as fuck & reliable so buyers will ignore your "advice"
Awesome video and quite a rare jet. How was the performance of it?
The performance was good, quite a bump into the seats when brakes were released at takeoff. Climb performance was good, too. I am sure it could have climbed faster than we did, nevertheless it was impressive.
Great to fly
I have about 1700 hours on the westwind
The most fun when we were configured for freight
The hell?
Nice aircraft, very old school, but the flight crew made me nervous. Not much
CRM or attention to detail.
Millionaire!
The pilot with chiripiorkA
Definitely I’ll take American or Southwest, I’ll not fly with this guy , scary , show off