I forgot to put it in the video because I was distracted trying to make the video but I forgot to mention there's one more Honorable Mention Sariel: SHE'S A FUCKING ANGEL FROM MAKAI. WHAT ELSE IS THERE TO SAY?
@@Starslayer777 Another Character I'd suggest be added to that list is "Byakuren Hijiri" Shes Insanely good at the spell card rules *Deadass uses one of skinki's attacks from Mystic Square* And a Important thing I wanna add is Eiki. Eiki Can't do a single thing to Byakuren Due to Byakuren Being a Buddhist (Good) And On top of ALL that, Byakuren has Direct Ties to Bishamonten (Buddhist god of war I think) and Has the Avatar Equivalent in the form of Shou Toramaru. We also can't forget the Sutra Scroll which is (In a Nutshell a all stats up by about 10 fold) This is shown in her spell card "Super Human Hijiri" where Her movement is what makes the bullets. Granted to Have her do Any of this is near impossible due to her having the "Patience of a Saint" and Overall being the "Goodest" Character In the franchise in terms of Good and Evil. so yeah, Take that information as you will.
@@Arebus27 Byakuren is scalable to Reimu and Miko. All of themh H1-B at best imo. Also the power of summoning gods is a very powerful ability bro. She has the power of the 8 million of gods.
@@Arebus27 She is scalable to Miko and Reimu since all of them spread different religions and have powers and abilities granted by the religions they spread.
The three strongest touhou characters are: 1. Jesus. Cameos in Wild and Horned Hermit. 2. Siddhartha Also Cameos on the same page. 3. Sun Wukong Doesn’t appear directly but is referenced multiple times.
Sun Wukong being the Monkey girl in Touhou 19 and the other 2 don't exist unless if we decided to make Touhou The Last Comer Canon and have Loli Jesus be a thing.
@@Starslayer777From what I heard, Biten is just a normal monkey youkai that got gaslighted into thinking she has a relation with Wukong, but isn’t Wukong himself, who is referenced elsewhere such as when Yukari uses him as a metaphor in a warning against Tenshi in her Soku win quote.
@@Starslayer777From what I heard (can’t confirm because the wiki STILL hasn’t finished the translation for 19) Biten is just a normal monkey youkai that got gaslighted into thinking she is related to Wukong. She isn’t supposed to be Wukong herself, and Wukong is referenced elsewhere such as in Yukari’s Soku win quote against Tenshi. Also I never even heard about The Last Comer until now, I was referring to their appearance during Wild and Horned Hermit chapter 44 pg 12.
Tan cirno canonically scales to okina since she can beat her lol also Cirno should be in 9 th place since even without tan form she almost defeated eiki, eiki also said that cirno is so strong that if she died she would not know what happens to her
Spell card battle, and the characters were basically just playing into Okina's hand. That, and if cirno had not had her backdoor opened by Okina, she'd have lost that fight pretty badly.
Ah yes, Eiki, whose entire plot revolved around scolding the characters, and not fighting them. I'm pretty sure she has no authority over the living, and that's why she never intended to harm them, but show them the way.
No, Okina gave the Powers to her slaves, canonically her slaves gave cirno infinite power, tanned cirno in touhou 16 Idk but yeah she tanned was holding an infinite power, also yeah Spell card rules, aya, another extremely more stronger Youkai than cirno, got power from Okina too, and aya in her fight with her tried to Beat Okina full power, and Okina literally was playing with her, yeah aya ended beating Okina but yeah Spell card rules, without that Okina no concept of diff both tanned cirno and Aya with increased power
I really think you should consider adding, Eirin, Kaguya, Sagume and Remilia: Eirin: Lunarian (therefore OP by default as they're stronger than 90% of the roster), smartest person in Gensokyo, already extremely strong but nerfs herself for Kaguya, highly knowledgeable, can use all kinds of drugs... Kaguya: Lunarian, has time powers too but better than Sakuya, has all kinds of magical treasures, was taught a lot from Eirin, is actually really powerful too she usually fights for fun instead of seriously... Sagume: Lunarian. extremely strong, very smart, can manipulate fate.. Remilia: Mostly because she can manipulate fate.
Ya see, I thought about putting Kaguya on the list, but then I realized that the Watasuki Sisters are stronger than her. And since I already have 5 characters in Honerable Mentions, I was unable to add Remilia and Sagume. But thanks for the info!
@@Starslayer777 using this logic you can put eirin above watasuki sisters, because she is their master. Btw there isn't an actual logic to determine which character is stronger. For ex: Hecatia is said to be the strongest in Gensokyo, but it means nothing, since Okina lives in the Backdoor dimension and Shinki ( if she is canon we don't fully know ) is the creator of the makai ( full of fucking demons and infinite, even tho pandaemonium is the end of it lol )
@misterooreo (actually, according to ZUN, all of the Pc98 characters do exist, so Shinki is canon, especially since Makai still exists in the Windows era) But if I ever do redo this I might put Eirin in the listen above the sisters... IF I REDO THIS LIST OF COURSE
@@Starslayer777 kinda? In UFO you didn't see makai, but hokkai, which is a part of makai. You can argue that alice makes Touhou 5 Canon, since she appears in PCB saying to reimu that they already met each other but reimu doesn't remember her. Which is kind of strange? there is not an actual way to tell that it was just a gag or that reimu doesn't remember faces. There are a lot of plot holes in the serie. If you want to redo the list take your time, there is not just the manga and games but the CD and the books too, which complicates things alot. Other than ZUN statements, which are obviously true, you should look at ALL of them.. like... HOW WHITEROCK CAN JUST CAUSE AN ENTIRE INCIDENT... It takes a lot of time so gl, but mostly have fun doin your searches
Too much text... Zun also said that PC98 era is actually canon to the Main story but he didnt find a way to bring that era to the new one, but yeah pc98 is canon anyway
@@Starslayer777 I understand. I’m just spoiled. Plus if there’s a vid with a niche topic (or even a popular one) with an in depth dive, people who follow it will thumbs up that stuff. Though it’s best use dialogue. But whatever. I am curious as to know if the men in this series (or the few that have a role) are low tier. Is Rinousuke even a fighter? I fought him once at the beginning of Gensokyo Wanderer. But eh… whatever. He was under the influence of a cursed object.
@@Starslayer777Oh shiiii Two neckbeards fighting Ig wadonahara actually has talent put into it zun legit just copies other characters as inspiration o algo....
I'm kinda surprised everyone is just chill with me putting Utsuho in the Honorable Mentions as I have seen no one mentioned her appearing in this video.
@@Starslayer777 **B R U H** Didn’t think you’d actually reply, let alone in F i v e m i n u t e s ! That’s insane! (Also you hush, Future Diary wasn’t THAT bad)
FINALLY SOMEONE WHO ADDRESSES HOW FREAKING POWERFUL HECATIA IS!!! hecatia is genuinely one of my fav characters and i just cant believe people forget her when power scaling on touhou,she is Basically the god of earth,the moon, and the earth at the same time(yes i will be counting her 3 corpses as 3 gods and you cant change fanon so A MAYONAISE ON A SCALATOR,IM GOING UP ON THE SCALATOR SO BYE BYE!!!) ALSO SHE LITERALLY HAS 3 CORPSES,IF YOU WANNA KILL HER,YOU WILL NEED TO KILL THE 3 CORPSES INDIVIDUALLY,AND IF SHE WANTS SHE CAN USE THEM 3 AT THE SAME TIME,LIKE,BRO,HOW ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO DO AGAINST 3 GODS OF HELL/EARTH/MOON? Nothing
The more I look into Touhou lore the more I believe ZUN’s statement on Hecatia’s power was just a matter of raw destructive output (like how Star Platinum is physically the strongest stand, just not ability-wise) because her only ability is having 3 bodies, while there’s other characters with completely busted abilities that could easily beat what’s basically 3 insanely powerful gods that far overpower everyone else but have no hax abilities. For example, Yukari. What’s galaxy level attack potency (exaggeration) repeated 3 times going to do against someone a step below omnipotence? With Reimu, what’s galaxy level attack potency repeated 3 times going to do against someone who is physically impossible to hit? Nothing! Anyways thanks for coming to my TED talk
@@victorvirgili4447i aggree,but even if its just "3 low tier gods"she is still the god of hell,and yk,Nobody is the god of hell except her,and hell is pretty big and powerful,and also she may have been defeated easily and her danmaku isnt all that hard but,she isnt even using her other bodies,so yeah,if one hecatia gives trouble to reimu,imagine it 3x,my point still stands.
@@FCTouhou ok that's pretty strong still not nearly as strong as the sort of stuff other character can pull (yukari could probably do that too) but i think ill rate her as more of a B+ tier character and not a C+
@@victorvirgili4447 She is canonically and confirmed by Zun the strongest. I'm not an expert on Touhou power scaling but a guy once linked me to all of Hecatia feats. She can basically create and destroy infinite universes if I understand correctly. Yukari has limits to her boundary manipulation
I am confused. How is Suika in honorable mentions only, while Kasen, is number ten? Suika didn't even make it one the list, yet you said she was the strongest of the Four Oni of the Mountain, or the Big Four of the Mountain, or the Four Devas of the Mountain. Kasen was one of those. She also casually summons black holes, can turn people into mist if not for danmaku, decrease or increase the density of events (That's the plot of IaMP), and commonly spars against Yukari. She is at the very least 6th.
Girl causes magical nuisance, red dress girl shows up to assert dominance because thats her job, black dress girl also shows up and robs them for the lols.
@@phizuke It's a bullet hell video game series that started back in 1996 and is famous for being really difficult and having good music (basically space invaders on crack with a nice soundtrack) Every game has it's own standalone story but all of them are connected. These stories revolve around "incidents" which are most often world ending events. Where touhou really shines is it's community, the games provide a colourful cast of characters along with a basic story which is very open to interpretation. Along with this you are allowed to use these characters, stories and music pretty much however you like since the creator doesn't have copy rights set, he only provided loose guidelines. This allows fans of the series to create their own music, animations, games, and various other forms of media and even earn money from it. Thanks to this touhou quickly spread across the Internet and now you can't escape it.
Flan in both Cheating Detective Satori and TH17.5 were used as a killing machine straight up, like they would just bring her places to beat up people and she's just like "aight bet, say less" As for Hecatia, i'd agree she's the strongest but she's still a bit ambiguous imo. It was stated that she's the goddess of hell, but we never seen her in any environment that's hellish in anyway. And for being the goddess, the supposed ruler of hell, you'd think she's the superior of Eiki in some way, but when i dugged through a bit i found that Hecatia have only heard of Eiki and have actually not met her in person. my only conclusion is that Hecatia's hell different from the hell we know.
I would place Yukari in 12th, Yuuka 11th and following the rest of your list. Since Yorihime doesn't attack and conquer Gensokyo because she would be humiliated by Flandre and Remilia in a real fight. And Yorihime is nothing in comparison to Hecatia, Sariel, Shinki and Junko. The idea that all of them are in a deal to preserve Gensokyo is each time more truth.
junko's attacks aren't made to kill the player because of the spellcard rules, but if they are then that makes junko incredibly weak because most characters from impossible spellcard use harder spellcards and in that game characters aren't limited by spellcard rules also a lot of characters power description are so vague like keine's that you can interpret most characters in the seires as overpowered and worthy of being "one of the most powerfull"
@Shimanas527 Here's the thing. The Spellcard rules are bullshit because they're never actually used in the fighting games... that being said The spellcards aren't the only thing I used to rank.
@@Starslayer777 they are used in fighting games, maybe not in arcade mode, also as I mentioned before you can't really rank characters by power because of how vague they are
@Shimanas527 That's what I'm saying! It's hard to get a definitive ranking in terms of strength for the Touhou characters. Especially as several of them don't even have Danmaku spell cards! One of the very few thoughts I had when it came to me being against making this video
@@Shimanas527Well the characters he mentioned here are not Vague in information at least for what I researched some characters have unfortunately more information about their Powers than others.
Id like to argue about a few spots: Eiki: sure, her ability is good, though its literally only gonna fully take into effect once youre in the afterlife and being judged. Put yuyuko in her spot. Keine: her ability is pretty op and all, though id beckon to put her maybe a bit lower; shes not that strong when it comes to fights. Sakuya: no, sadly she isnt beating remilias ability to manipulate fate (shes still very op tho so honourable mention is deserved for her!) Suika: not that i think she needs to be taken out, though she herself stated that Yuugi is physically stronger than her. Still, deserving of honourable mention. Watatsuki’s: Isnt like 1 Watatsuki stronger than Junko? So i think they should be in one spot together above Junko. Hecatia’s easily clapping them, though. (I dont wanna seem rude with this comment, just maybe say my personal opinion 😭😭)
yuugi is the strongest character because her power is "wielding unexplainable phenomena", therefore she can defeat every character and the reasoning is that its simply unexplainable >:3
i love flan but... she is not beating yuuka, eiki or kasen any day, and she gets slammed by everyone higher so hard its not even funny. also you literally put her higher than YORIHIME WHAT THE F-
@@Dias-sq2yd destroying an infinite realm isn't even that good, doremy (who zun considers a low tier in terms of power) effortlessly created an 11th dimensional space obviously, being a high tier, flan would upscale this, but anyone who compares to or is objectively stronger than yukari yakumo should be far out of flan's league (yukari is a being of infinite dimensions)
@@teddyrichard1488 Yeah I agree with you, but I still think she is like top 20 strongest character maybe behind Sakuya (and everyone stronger than her duh)
Huh, I was kinda expecting Shion or Joon, but they're only really strong as a duo. Then again, Shion on her own can force her opponent to lose, while still somehow losing herself. Oh and Yukari literally needed to do some silly gap switcharoo to even make Reimu's victory possible. (Okay these two [Shion and Joon] confuse me, but they are pretty strong no doubt.)
Keine shouldn't be on the list, her powers are mostly illusionary in nature and more playful than literal, being a spin on how history is created and destroyed by those that get to teach it. She basically just manipulates memories, and characters that are much older or powerful than her are flat out immune to her powers. I'd also wager that Yukari is stronger than Okina, because Yukari has the more semantic powers, and is more variable than her, and has more backing to her being generally ridiculously physically capable. You could also probably argue for Yorihime being stronger than Hecatia, by virtue of being favored by *the entire Shinto pantheon.* Hecatia probably _is_ stronger, but Yori has more on screen evidence and will always generally have more options in a battle than Hecatia. The hourais should also probably have been mentioned, Eirin in particular has some of the most ridiculous capabilities in the cast. The aquamarine elixir is literally King Crimson in drug form.
Yeah looking back on this you're probably right her ability may be more of an illusionary ability, but being able to do anything to the concept of history (even if it is just hiding it) is pretty broken when you think about it in retrospect.
@@Starslayer777 It was literally stated that the heida clan (akyu s family) cannot be affected by keine s ability just because they re one of the oldest thing to exist in gensokyo
@drearydoll6305 I don't think what affects the Akyuu family matters in this case. (Besides, Akyuu is gonna die soon anyway. Each member of the family, no matter the incarnation, lives for only 30 years.)
@@Starslayer777 It s just an example to demonstrate her power cannot affect things that are old. Also I said family, you make it sound like akyu is the only member of her clan
The Concealed Four Seasons is good but for me heian alien is the best edit: didn't read description carefully best final is Tonight Stars an Easygoing Egoist (Live ver.) ~ Egoistic Flowers.
What does Hecatia even get you anyway? Tatarian gate and mythic rejuvenation? Only reason why she is decent is because Atlas and Helios are even worse.
You're probably joking but Hecatia mentions in AFoEU that she basically clowns on all the Yama and they kinda don't like her because they literally can't do shit about anything she does.
I actually plan to remake the list soon... Zanmu would make it right under Yuuka, tho. Zanmu's ability alone can affect everyone else on the list, but even I know characters like Yukari and Junko would be able to stand a chance against her.
I would have added her here due to her literally being the most powerful being in the Dream World, but then I remembered Yuuka has a mansion in the gap between Gensokyo and the Dream World.
Honestly I dont think Mr. John Cruelty can do much in touhou. Guns don't work, and would be a one way ticket to him getting nuked for breaking spell card rules. He'd respawn, but it'd lead to the same result. And unless you take him killing Abraxas *very* literally to be him killing the actual gnostic figure, Abraxas' and the Triagon's physical forms are still in the realm of being killed by guns (which still doesn't kill them permanently.) Either way, touhou characters would still out speed him
#1 Reimu Why? Because Reimu She’s Reimu Literally Reimu Factually Reimu Reimu doesn’t bend for Reality Reality bend’s for Reimu … Did I mention she’s Reimu? Also-nobody cares about that weird Devil loser Her fashion sense is Nonexistence Therefore: Opinion invalidated
Because everyone else under Flan can also harm her, too. Plus, even if I did, I would have added Yachie and Saki, too, and they're just as powerful as her. (Saki is a Extra Stage Boss for a reason.)
@@Starslayer777 Technically the only reason she lost to fran was due to how fran explosive s power work aka she couldn't absorb it which is saying a lot considering okina is the one who decided to send fran.
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@Starslayer777 yuuma is scary, she single handedly defeated Mouryren temple, both shrines, 4 godesses, marisa and reimu and she only lost because okina handpicked her matchup
@Eevxes I said this in another comment, but I'll say it again. If Tenshi didn't get her ass beat by almost everyone in SWR she would have been on this list.
@Eevxes I kinda doubt that if she got beat by everyone and I'm pretty sure Yukari, and Yuyuko are stronger than her and Tenshi narrowly won because Sakuya's knifes were just unable to pierce her. Not to mention REIMU DEMOLISHED HER THE FIRST TIME. I don't think that would count as letting them win.
I forgot to put it in the video because I was distracted trying to make the video but I forgot to mention there's one more Honorable Mention
Sariel: SHE'S A FUCKING ANGEL FROM MAKAI. WHAT ELSE IS THERE TO SAY?
Thanks for mentioning PC-98 Makai gang
@@Монс-й1ь I will never forget the Makai crew. They're some of the strongest beings in the franchise!
And she can giving a death to every mortal like Yuyuko.
Can I be the strongest Toulouse character
0:46 ah yes, Yukark, my favorite
☝️😀 Shut up
Yeah quick detail about yorihime’s god summon ability *she can summon up to 60 million*
YEAH THAT'S NOT TERRIFYING AT ALL
@@Starslayer777 Another Character I'd suggest be added to that list is "Byakuren Hijiri" Shes Insanely good at the spell card rules *Deadass uses one of skinki's attacks from Mystic Square* And a Important thing I wanna add is Eiki. Eiki Can't do a single thing to Byakuren Due to Byakuren Being a Buddhist (Good) And On top of ALL that, Byakuren has Direct Ties to Bishamonten (Buddhist god of war I think) and Has the Avatar Equivalent in the form of Shou Toramaru. We also can't forget the Sutra Scroll which is (In a Nutshell a all stats up by about 10 fold) This is shown in her spell card "Super Human Hijiri" where Her movement is what makes the bullets. Granted to Have her do Any of this is near impossible due to her having the "Patience of a Saint" and Overall being the "Goodest" Character In the franchise in terms of Good and Evil. so yeah, Take that information as you will.
@@Arebus27 Byakuren is scalable to Reimu and Miko.
All of themh H1-B at best imo.
Also the power of summoning gods is a very powerful ability bro.
She has the power of the 8 million of gods.
@@Arebus27 Great info!
She also was capable of literally manipulating the heavens.
@@Arebus27 She is scalable to Miko and Reimu since all of them spread different religions and have powers and abilities granted by the religions they spread.
Your notes on Sakuya made me smile
I'm not going to subscribe so you can retcon to make Cirno the #1 strongest 😤
What.
@@Itsali221infedil, cirno is the strongest.
But she is the strongest fairy tho (Im pretty sure)
Next to Clownpiece. Yeah Cirno is the strongest Fairy
She is in real life. Look up the Zellers location in Calgary, Alberta, Canada on Google Maps.
The three strongest touhou characters are:
1. Jesus.
Cameos in Wild and Horned Hermit.
2. Siddhartha
Also Cameos on the same page.
3. Sun Wukong
Doesn’t appear directly but is referenced multiple times.
Sun Wukong being the Monkey girl in Touhou 19 and the other 2 don't exist unless if we decided to make Touhou The Last Comer Canon and have Loli Jesus be a thing.
@@Starslayer777From what I heard, Biten is just a normal monkey youkai that got gaslighted into thinking she has a relation with Wukong, but isn’t Wukong himself, who is referenced elsewhere such as when Yukari uses him as a metaphor in a warning against Tenshi in her Soku win quote.
@@Starslayer777From what I heard (can’t confirm because the wiki STILL hasn’t finished the translation for 19) Biten is just a normal monkey youkai that got gaslighted into thinking she is related to Wukong. She isn’t supposed to be Wukong herself, and Wukong is referenced elsewhere such as in Yukari’s Soku win quote against Tenshi. Also I never even heard about The Last Comer until now, I was referring to their appearance during Wild and Horned Hermit chapter 44 pg 12.
@@Starslayer777 What? ok im reading touhou the last corner
Wasn't the last comer canon to the Main touhou story?
The real answer is Cirno. She transends the laws of reality it's self because she keeps coming back in new games (and is tan)
Tan cirno canonically scales to okina since she can beat her lol also
Cirno should be in 9 th place since even without tan form she almost defeated eiki, eiki also said that cirno is so strong that if she died she would not know what happens to her
Spell card battle, and the characters were basically just playing into Okina's hand. That, and if cirno had not had her backdoor opened by Okina, she'd have lost that fight pretty badly.
Ah yes, Eiki, whose entire plot revolved around scolding the characters, and not fighting them. I'm pretty sure she has no authority over the living, and that's why she never intended to harm them, but show them the way.
No, Okina gave the Powers to her slaves, canonically her slaves gave cirno infinite power, tanned cirno in touhou 16 Idk but yeah she tanned was holding an infinite power, also yeah Spell card rules, aya, another extremely more stronger Youkai than cirno, got power from Okina too, and aya in her fight with her tried to Beat Okina full power, and Okina literally was playing with her, yeah aya ended beating Okina but yeah Spell card rules, without that Okina no concept of diff both tanned cirno and Aya with increased power
Cirno is a fucking joke, I think we all know that
HELP EVERYTHING IS CIRNO
You thought it's hecatia but it's me Cirno da!
Remilia just disappeared lol
The problem with Remilia is that, as far as I'm aware, her ability to manipulate fate was never shown in games, nor the official written works.
Honorable mention
I really think you should consider adding, Eirin, Kaguya, Sagume and Remilia:
Eirin: Lunarian (therefore OP by default as they're stronger than 90% of the roster), smartest person in Gensokyo, already extremely strong but nerfs herself for Kaguya, highly knowledgeable, can use all kinds of drugs...
Kaguya: Lunarian, has time powers too but better than Sakuya, has all kinds of magical treasures, was taught a lot from Eirin, is actually really powerful too she usually fights for fun instead of seriously...
Sagume: Lunarian. extremely strong, very smart, can manipulate fate..
Remilia: Mostly because she can manipulate fate.
Ya see, I thought about putting Kaguya on the list, but then I realized that the Watasuki Sisters are stronger than her.
And since I already have 5 characters in Honerable Mentions, I was unable to add Remilia and Sagume.
But thanks for the info!
@@Starslayer777 using this logic you can put eirin above watasuki sisters, because she is their master. Btw there isn't an actual logic to determine which character is stronger.
For ex: Hecatia is said to be the strongest in Gensokyo, but it means nothing, since Okina lives in the Backdoor dimension and Shinki ( if she is canon we don't fully know ) is the creator of the makai ( full of fucking demons and infinite, even tho pandaemonium is the end of it lol )
@misterooreo (actually, according to ZUN, all of the Pc98 characters do exist, so Shinki is canon, especially since Makai still exists in the Windows era) But if I ever do redo this I might put Eirin in the listen above the sisters... IF I REDO THIS LIST OF COURSE
@@Starslayer777 kinda? In UFO you didn't see makai, but hokkai, which is a part of makai. You can argue that alice makes Touhou 5 Canon, since she appears in PCB saying to reimu that they already met each other but reimu doesn't remember her. Which is kind of strange? there is not an actual way to tell that it was just a gag or that reimu doesn't remember faces. There are a lot of plot holes in the serie.
If you want to redo the list take your time, there is not just the manga and games but the CD and the books too, which complicates things alot.
Other than ZUN statements, which are obviously true, you should look at ALL of them.. like... HOW WHITEROCK CAN JUST CAUSE AN ENTIRE INCIDENT...
It takes a lot of time so gl, but mostly have fun doin your searches
Too much text...
Zun also said that PC98 era is actually canon to the Main story but he didnt find a way to bring that era to the new one, but yeah pc98 is canon anyway
A video like this, needs to at least be a half hour long.
I did not want to edit for that long I'm sorry.
@@Starslayer777 I understand. I’m just spoiled. Plus if there’s a vid with a niche topic (or even a popular one) with an in depth dive, people who follow it will thumbs up that stuff. Though it’s best use dialogue. But whatever. I am curious as to know if the men in this series (or the few that have a role) are low tier. Is Rinousuke even a fighter? I fought him once at the beginning of Gensokyo Wanderer. But eh… whatever. He was under the influence of a cursed object.
@jordanjackson6151 I didn't want to count the fangames but if I did the list would be different entirely
Alas you forget, where there is oil, there is Yuumites states of America.
@@Kameeho AAAAA-
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@@okegom_228 You have Wandonohara on your fucking channel don't even start ✋️💀
@@Starslayer777Oh shiiii
Two neckbeards fighting
Ig wadonahara actually has talent put into it zun legit just copies other characters as inspiration o algo....
I'm kinda surprised everyone is just chill with me putting Utsuho in the Honorable Mentions as I have seen no one mentioned her appearing in this video.
Okay but where is Wriggle
yuuka in LLS : IMA STRONK
yuuka as playable in MS : weak af 💀
Came expecting a meme, instead got a serious list.
LMAO
Guessing I aint subbing-
So.. hop to that recon- *I mean definitely true fact that you failed to add in the video!*
@@SeymourYukiteru Your pfp is from Mirai Nikki Hush 😭
@@Starslayer777 **B R U H**
Didn’t think you’d actually reply, let alone in
F i v e m i n u t e s ! That’s insane!
(Also you hush, Future Diary wasn’t THAT bad)
FINALLY SOMEONE WHO ADDRESSES HOW FREAKING POWERFUL HECATIA IS!!! hecatia is genuinely one of my fav characters and i just cant believe people forget her when power scaling on touhou,she is Basically the god of earth,the moon, and the earth at the same time(yes i will be counting her 3 corpses as 3 gods and you cant change fanon so A MAYONAISE ON A SCALATOR,IM GOING UP ON THE SCALATOR SO BYE BYE!!!)
ALSO SHE LITERALLY HAS 3 CORPSES,IF YOU WANNA KILL HER,YOU WILL NEED TO KILL THE 3 CORPSES INDIVIDUALLY,AND IF SHE WANTS SHE CAN USE THEM 3 AT THE SAME TIME,LIKE,BRO,HOW ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO DO AGAINST 3 GODS OF HELL/EARTH/MOON?
Nothing
The more I look into Touhou lore the more I believe ZUN’s statement on Hecatia’s power was just a matter of raw destructive output (like how Star Platinum is physically the strongest stand, just not ability-wise) because her only ability is having 3 bodies, while there’s other characters with completely busted abilities that could easily beat what’s basically 3 insanely powerful gods that far overpower everyone else but have no hax abilities. For example, Yukari. What’s galaxy level attack potency (exaggeration) repeated 3 times going to do against someone a step below omnipotence? With Reimu, what’s galaxy level attack potency repeated 3 times going to do against someone who is physically impossible to hit? Nothing!
Anyways thanks for coming to my TED talk
@@victorvirgili4447i aggree,but even if its just "3 low tier gods"she is still the god of hell,and yk,Nobody is the god of hell except her,and hell is pretty big and powerful,and also she may have been defeated easily and her danmaku isnt all that hard but,she isnt even using her other bodies,so yeah,if one hecatia gives trouble to reimu,imagine it 3x,my point still stands.
@@victorvirgili4447She can create otherworlds and stuff. Also being a god in itself brings you to the top for all their properties
@@FCTouhou ok that's pretty strong
still not nearly as strong as the sort of stuff other character can pull (yukari could probably do that too) but i think ill rate her as more of a B+ tier character and not a C+
@@victorvirgili4447 She is canonically and confirmed by Zun the strongest. I'm not an expert on Touhou power scaling but a guy once linked me to all of Hecatia feats. She can basically create and destroy infinite universes if I understand correctly. Yukari has limits to her boundary manipulation
Emotional Skyscraper >> all other final boss theme
I am confused. How is Suika in honorable mentions only, while Kasen, is number ten? Suika didn't even make it one the list, yet you said she was the strongest of the Four Oni of the Mountain, or the Big Four of the Mountain, or the Four Devas of the Mountain. Kasen was one of those. She also casually summons black holes, can turn people into mist if not for danmaku, decrease or increase the density of events (That's the plot of IaMP), and commonly spars against Yukari. She is at the very least 6th.
UOOOOH YUKARK
What is Touhou even about dude 😭
ridiculously strong girls fight with balls of light for fun, sometimes for social standing or deciding who gets their way.
@thepanman674 Does it have a story or something?
girl shoot girl because slight disagreement
Girl causes magical nuisance, red dress girl shows up to assert dominance because thats her job, black dress girl also shows up and robs them for the lols.
@@phizuke It's a bullet hell video game series that started back in 1996 and is famous for being really difficult and having good music (basically space invaders on crack with a nice soundtrack)
Every game has it's own standalone story but all of them are connected. These stories revolve around "incidents" which are most often world ending events.
Where touhou really shines is it's community, the games provide a colourful cast of characters along with a basic story which is very open to interpretation. Along with this you are allowed to use these characters, stories and music pretty much however you like since the creator doesn't have copy rights set, he only provided loose guidelines.
This allows fans of the series to create their own music, animations, games, and various other forms of media and even earn money from it. Thanks to this touhou quickly spread across the Internet and now you can't escape it.
Flan in both Cheating Detective Satori and TH17.5 were used as a killing machine straight up, like they would just bring her places to beat up people and she's just like "aight bet, say less"
As for Hecatia, i'd agree she's the strongest but she's still a bit ambiguous imo. It was stated that she's the goddess of hell, but we never seen her in any environment that's hellish in anyway. And for being the goddess, the supposed ruler of hell, you'd think she's the superior of Eiki in some way, but when i dugged through a bit i found that Hecatia have only heard of Eiki and have actually not met her in person. my only conclusion is that Hecatia's hell different from the hell we know.
No, I can debunk that if u want and give u more info about Hecatia hell and these stuff
0:39 im dead when Keine pulls out algebra
Nah fk you the best Boss theme is clearly Entrusting This World to Idols
Oh my gosh someone actually read the fucking description.
We're beefing about songs on the internet 💀 Cmon now
@@Arebus27 BAHAHAHA-
I would place Yukari in 12th, Yuuka 11th and following the rest of your list. Since Yorihime doesn't attack and conquer Gensokyo because she would be humiliated by Flandre and Remilia in a real fight. And Yorihime is nothing in comparison to Hecatia, Sariel, Shinki and Junko.
The idea that all of them are in a deal to preserve Gensokyo is each time more truth.
junko's attacks aren't made to kill the player because of the spellcard rules, but if they are then that makes junko incredibly weak because most characters from impossible spellcard use harder spellcards and in that game characters aren't limited by spellcard rules also a lot of characters power description are so vague like keine's that you can interpret most characters in the seires as overpowered and worthy of being "one of the most powerfull"
@Shimanas527 Here's the thing. The Spellcard rules are bullshit because they're never actually used in the fighting games... that being said The spellcards aren't the only thing I used to rank.
@@Starslayer777 they are used in fighting games, maybe not in arcade mode, also as I mentioned before you can't really rank characters by power because of how vague they are
@Shimanas527 That's what I'm saying! It's hard to get a definitive ranking in terms of strength for the Touhou characters. Especially as several of them don't even have Danmaku spell cards!
One of the very few thoughts I had when it came to me being against making this video
@@Starslayer777 then maybe you shouldn't rank them in the first place
@@Shimanas527Well the characters he mentioned here are not Vague in information at least for what I researched some characters have unfortunately more information about their Powers than others.
Now I don't want to subscribe, Cirno #1
Id like to argue about a few spots:
Eiki: sure, her ability is good, though its literally only gonna fully take into effect once youre in the afterlife and being judged. Put yuyuko in her spot.
Keine: her ability is pretty op and all, though id beckon to put her maybe a bit lower; shes not that strong when it comes to fights.
Sakuya: no, sadly she isnt beating remilias ability to manipulate fate (shes still very op tho so honourable mention is deserved for her!)
Suika: not that i think she needs to be taken out, though she herself stated that Yuugi is physically stronger than her. Still, deserving of honourable mention.
Watatsuki’s: Isnt like 1 Watatsuki stronger than Junko? So i think they should be in one spot together above Junko. Hecatia’s easily clapping them, though.
(I dont wanna seem rude with this comment, just maybe say my personal opinion 😭😭)
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your subscriber count when I subbed: 671 for some reason
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this man is actually 5
yuugi is the strongest character because her power is "wielding unexplainable phenomena", therefore she can defeat every character and the reasoning is that its simply unexplainable >:3
No, is like saying that tanned cirno has Infinite power SO infinite is better than anything SO she is above fiction
Cirno beats all of them, this is fact
i love flan but... she is not beating yuuka, eiki or kasen any day, and she gets slammed by everyone higher so hard its not even funny. also you literally put her higher than YORIHIME WHAT THE F-
Doesnt she literally destroyed an realm that is infinite in 17.5? I think she can defeat some of those characters, but not Yorihime lol
@@Dias-sq2yd destroying an infinite realm isn't even that good, doremy (who zun considers a low tier in terms of power) effortlessly created an 11th dimensional space
obviously, being a high tier, flan would upscale this, but anyone who compares to or is objectively stronger than yukari yakumo should be far out of flan's league (yukari is a being of infinite dimensions)
@@teddyrichard1488 Yeah I agree with you, but I still think she is like top 20 strongest character maybe behind Sakuya (and everyone stronger than her duh)
@@Dias-sq2yd both scarlet sisters would obliterate the maid
@@teddyrichard1488 What would any of themdo whem Sakuya Stops Time for ilimited time and uses her powers to erase them from the timeline
Huh, I was kinda expecting Shion or Joon, but they're only really strong as a duo.
Then again, Shion on her own can force her opponent to lose, while still somehow losing herself.
Oh and Yukari literally needed to do some silly gap switcharoo to even make Reimu's victory possible.
(Okay these two [Shion and Joon] confuse me, but they are pretty strong no doubt.)
Keine shouldn't be on the list, her powers are mostly illusionary in nature and more playful than literal, being a spin on how history is created and destroyed by those that get to teach it. She basically just manipulates memories, and characters that are much older or powerful than her are flat out immune to her powers.
I'd also wager that Yukari is stronger than Okina, because Yukari has the more semantic powers, and is more variable than her, and has more backing to her being generally ridiculously physically capable.
You could also probably argue for Yorihime being stronger than Hecatia, by virtue of being favored by *the entire Shinto pantheon.* Hecatia probably _is_ stronger, but Yori has more on screen evidence and will always generally have more options in a battle than Hecatia.
The hourais should also probably have been mentioned, Eirin in particular has some of the most ridiculous capabilities in the cast. The aquamarine elixir is literally King Crimson in drug form.
Yeah looking back on this you're probably right her ability may be more of an illusionary ability, but being able to do anything to the concept of history (even if it is just hiding it) is pretty broken when you think about it in retrospect.
@@Starslayer777 It was literally stated that the heida clan (akyu s family) cannot be affected by keine s ability just because they re one of the oldest thing to exist in gensokyo
@drearydoll6305 I don't think what affects the Akyuu family matters in this case. (Besides, Akyuu is gonna die soon anyway. Each member of the family, no matter the incarnation, lives for only 30 years.)
@@Starslayer777 It s just an example to demonstrate her power cannot affect things that are old.
Also I said family, you make it sound like akyu is the only member of her clan
How is yorihime in the list but not sagume
The Concealed Four Seasons is good but for me heian alien is the best
edit: didn't read description carefully best final is Tonight Stars an Easygoing Egoist (Live ver.) ~ Egoistic Flowers.
Not a final boss song
@@suikabefuck i didn't read it carefully
@@koishi3420 i agree with egoistic flowers
Insane top+ W+ i agree
Hecatia: stronger than anyone gensokyo
Eika: lives in the sanzu river (not gensokyo)
I think we have the true winner here
You mean Eiki?
Because Eika isn't even on the list.
What does Hecatia even get you anyway? Tatarian gate and mythic rejuvenation? Only reason why she is decent is because Atlas and Helios are even worse.
You're probably joking but Hecatia mentions in AFoEU that she basically clowns on all the Yama and they kinda don't like her because they literally can't do shit about anything she does.
Where would you rate Zanmu if she makes the list ?
I actually plan to remake the list soon... Zanmu would make it right under Yuuka, tho. Zanmu's ability alone can affect everyone else on the list, but even I know characters like Yukari and Junko would be able to stand a chance against her.
WHERE IS CHIRUNO!!!!!!!!!!
Wait, isn't Doremy like actually a meanece?
I would have added her here due to her literally being the most powerful being in the Dream World, but then I remembered Yuuka has a mansion in the gap between Gensokyo and the Dream World.
@@Starslayer777What? I didnt know yuuka has a mansión in the barrier between gensokyo and Dream world?
Can u explain me about that?
@@Lui_57 Touhou 4.
@@Starslayer777 Ok
still not beating goku smh
Grow Up.
@@Starslayer777 sarcarm:
They do via haxes and cosmology
Goku imo 1-C, doesnt pass above kaguya
Nah cirno better than all ᗜˬᗜ
sauce of the thumbnail please
@crosswegan1543 It's has been months since I found the image so I forgot a while ago. All I know is that I found it on Reddit
Hecatia isn't a goddess of hell.
Its just a title she was given for just being the strongest being in general, that s about.
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LMAO
Ngl but Eirin should've been on the list
@@itsfuji.1s I realized after I made this video.
Where is M.T Foxtrot?
Honestly I dont think Mr. John Cruelty can do much in touhou. Guns don't work, and would be a one way ticket to him getting nuked for breaking spell card rules. He'd respawn, but it'd lead to the same result. And unless you take him killing Abraxas *very* literally to be him killing the actual gnostic figure, Abraxas' and the Triagon's physical forms are still in the realm of being killed by guns (which still doesn't kill them permanently.) Either way, touhou characters would still out speed him
@@uboa8060 Ok but Cradle of Life tho, he literally destroyed everything in the Golden Age ending.
where is cirno?? Bruh
#1 = Me.
Tbh there are characters i do have to disagree on like okina or eiki and some but i guess this is your opinion
Tenshi's stronger than everyone on earth and is even more immortal than the watatsukis
If it wasn't for the fact that she got her ass beat by everyone in Touhou 10.5 she would have been on the list
@@Starslayer777She said that she was going to destroy the Dream world that is above the cosmology of the entire verse, but yeah that hits hard xD
#1 Reimu
Why?
Because Reimu
She’s Reimu
Literally Reimu
Factually Reimu
Reimu doesn’t bend for Reality
Reality bend’s for Reimu
…
Did I mention she’s Reimu?
Also-nobody cares about that weird Devil loser
Her fashion sense is Nonexistence
Therefore: Opinion invalidated
Bayonetta slams
0:34 whats tis song i forgor
@@Bad_animationz It's in the description
@@Starslayer777 oh ty
Let me guess the thumbnail is nsfw
LMFAO NO💀
Then can we have the link? :33
Yukark yakumo?
Nah i’d win
Ong i will solo 😭🙏
Yuuka dub
also why is yuuma not here.
She is a fucking threat because only fran could actually harm her.
Because everyone else under Flan can also harm her, too. Plus, even if I did, I would have added Yachie and Saki, too, and they're just as powerful as her.
(Saki is a Extra Stage Boss for a reason.)
@@Starslayer777 Technically the only reason she lost to fran was due to how fran explosive s power work aka she couldn't absorb it which is saying a lot considering okina is the one who decided to send fran.
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You like Touhou?
@@FCTouhou
I love touhou
Hmm maybe they can beat 45 in a fight
Cry kid😂😂😂
i can feel your pain❤️🩹
Mima one taps Gensokyo + Lunar Capital+ Old/New Hell+ Makai+ Senkai+Heaven+Dream World+ Outside World+ ur favourite verse+fiction+ ZUN🗿🍷🗣️🔥🔥🔥
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Zanmu and yuuma beat reimu
@@TheCr0oked1 This video was made before I found out Reimu canonically lost to those 2
@Starslayer777 yuuma is scary, she single handedly defeated Mouryren temple, both shrines, 4 godesses, marisa and reimu and she only lost because okina handpicked her matchup
Fortune Teller victims😭
how is okina above sakuya. im confused
@Phrozen_Phoenix The Sages are canonically more powerful than her. 🤨
i hate Yorihime and i don't know why
Buddy I can give you 10 reasons on why you should.
@@Starslayer777 I remembered, Koishi's andventure reminded me of this
@@administrator_of_this_channel EVERYTIME I HEAR THAT NAME I ACTUALLY SHIVER
@@Starslayer777 ruclips.net/video/fVfv_lK7vBM/видео.htmlsi=9byq75Rd2w1l2ebT
@@Starslayer777 My trigger is the "hat" and "dishing rod"
guess tenshi doesnt exist
@Eevxes I said this in another comment, but I'll say it again.
If Tenshi didn't get her ass beat by almost everyone in SWR she would have been on this list.
@@Starslayer777 my bad i jus commented it cuz i saw that tenshi beat yukari so i got confused
also i remembering seeing tenshi say something about letting them win
@Eevxes I kinda doubt that if she got beat by everyone and I'm pretty sure Yukari, and Yuyuko are stronger than her and Tenshi narrowly won because Sakuya's knifes were just unable to pierce her.
Not to mention REIMU DEMOLISHED HER THE FIRST TIME. I don't think that would count as letting them win.
@@Starslayer777 gonna repeat myself, tenshi said she let them win didnt she?
Bro where is hecatia she should be number 1 💀💀💀
@@Sansnessundertale Did you not watch the video all the way through?
@@Starslayer777oh shoot…….😅
@Sansnessundertale LMAO
L. Probably worst top strongest 2hu i've seen. (sorry buddy)
It's fine. I'm aware this is bad.
This is Bad bro sry. 🤧
Sakuya too