TESTING max RPM and Accelration - M542 vs TB6600 on 20VDC with 57A2 2.2Nm 4A Stepper Motor
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
- Testing how M542 and TB6600 perform without load on 20VDC.
What is the max rotation speed and accelration? Check it out!
Stepper drivers used:
- TB6600 4A
- M542
Stepper motor: 57A2 4A 2.2Nm
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Vishnu - Patrick Patrikios
00:00 Intro
00:25 TB6600 Specs and wiring
01:09 TB6600 Max rotation speed test w/o load
02:08 TB6600 Max acceleration speed test w/o load
03:06 M542 Wiring
03:32 M542 Max rotation speed test w/o load
03:50 M542 Max acceleration test w/o load
04:26 Results and conclusions
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cual es el mejor driver para nema 23 y 34 q puedas aconsejar? y cual controlador es el mejor para cnc router ? muchas gracias
Can we use both Nema 17 (DRV8825) and Nema 23 (TB6650) on same Arduino simultaneously?
I see no problem here. These drivers work both on step dir signal basis from what i know.
Does the voltage change the maximum speed a lot, I'm using 12 volts and I can't seem to get a very high speed, but also weirdly, I can get a slightly higher speed when the current is set lower, any ideas why?
I'm not sure about the slightly higher speed on lower current but yes - the voltage changes the maximum speed a lot. In one of my builds (a cnc mill) I was able to achieve 5000mm/min linear speed with 48V and just 3500mm/min using 38V so the voltage really matters here if you need much speed
@@GBWM_CNC thanks
Wow.
Hi! GBWM- Very nice speed you achieved there.
I'm a bit interested in knowing the type of drive / signal-gen you used to drive the M542 , (is it sine, square, pwm or code)?
I dont remember exactly but i think it was a CNC BOB parallel port driven from pc
Ok! I was hoping it was a stand alone signal gen you built.
I need a similar stable speed to complete a project I'm building here at present.
Any ideas from anyone?
Cheers.
@Alvin Smith If you need an easy and cheap signal generator you could play a little with arduino. I think it should be capable of that
@@GBWM_CNC I'm a bit ashamed to admit I've no experience in coding.
If there's a ready made code available I'll surely give it my full attention. Thanks.
@@alvinsmith3634 I'm going to take my arduino and make some videos about stepper motors control with them. I'll do it soon but I need to end some projects now. But i think google should be helpfull with a problem like that. I think you should be able to find a solution easily.
What is the best driver for nema 23 and 34 that you can recommend? And which controller is the best for cnc router? thank you so much
I don't know which is the best but I've had good experience with DM series like DM556 DM542 etc. (number depends on your motor current). When it comes to controllers - at this moment my favourite one is AXBB-E with UCCNC software. It's got a nice UI, ethernet interface, quite a bit of I/O's, spindle control and fast outputs - well suited for fast routers.
Thanks for that, exactly what i needed. Did you use any arduino for that any sample code? Also what powersource did you use? Do you think a shorter nema23 motor could have the same rpm as this large one? Any test for a 2.8 amp 1.26 nm motor?
That was some time ago and I don't remember what kind of input signal was there but probably mach3 with parallel port. If I'm right I was probably using a laptop 19V power supply. This was a nema23 too. Usually the smaller the stepper motor is the higher rpm it can reach. The higher the inducatnce is the less rpm it can reach (usually, for similar size motors) and also the higher your power supply voltage is the more velocity you can reach. The amps do make it strong and the voltage makes it fast to say it simple. I didn't test any 1.26nm though
@@GBWM_CNC thanks for the informative answer, whaf is a good inductance? I am cheking out a 2.5mH inductance nema motor, so is that a good inductance or bad (other then lower is better)? I know its an old test but do you remember or experience of the torque at these higher speeds?
@@markpolak8317 well all depends if you need torque or speed at certain power level. The same AMPS rated motor could have higher or less inductance. The one with lower inductance will have less torque but more max speed and in the opposite a motor with higher inductance will have more torque but the maximum speed will be lower. When I used exactly this motor in my machine it seemed to have good torque up to about 800RPM. Above 800RPM it fell down really hard. It worked fine with 48V power supply (I've did tests with 36V too but with that voltage it couldn't spin as fast). So the machine axis would work at about 800RPM. Anything above that - even without much load was too much for it. At about 700-800RPM it was able to drive a 1605 ballscrew with a not too heavy milling table and succesfully work with a 2.2kW spindle in wood milling.
@@markpolak8317 well all depends if you need torque or speed at certain power level. The same AMPS rated motor could have higher or less inductance. The one with lower inductance will have less torque but more max speed and in the opposite a motor with higher inductance will have more torque but the maximum speed will be lower. When I used exactly this motor in my machine it seemed to have good torque up to about 800RPM. Above 800RPM it fell down really hard. It worked fine with 48V power supply (I've did tests with 36V too but with that voltage it couldn't spin as fast). So the machine axis would work at about 800RPM. Anything above that - even without much load was too much for it. At about 700-800RPM it was able to drive a 1605 ballscrew with a not too heavy milling table and succesfully work with a 2.2kW spindle in wood milling.
@@GBWM_CNC thank you!
The dip switches… what did you set those to????
If I remember correctly - 1600 pulses/ rev and the current as you can see on the end of the video - 3.5/4A TB6600 and 3/4.2A on the M542
Hola, estoy en las vegas, Quiciera comprar un equipo completo para una maquina, tengo un torno de 5 motores, y Quiciera saber donde venden los equipos industriales!?
No lo sé. Yo no vivo en los estados unidos
Excellent info. Which driver has a reputation of being more robust? I've heard a few people say the TB6600 series are delicate.
Yes, i had the same feeling using it. I recommend the DM series (DM556, DM542,etc)
@@GBWM_CNC The 1st thing I did was open my 6600 up to check for dry joints, there was non, what is missing is some thermal paste on the tiny aluminium square which connects from the smt driver to the aluminium plate...
oye amigo buen video, quisiera saber las especificaciones de la fuente que usó para la demostración, de antemano gracias
¿Te refieres a la fuente de señal para el conductor? Estoy usando una placa base CNC para el control a través de LPT aquí. Haré una película sobre ella en un futuro próximo.
@@GBWM_CNC Gracias por responder, pero me refería a la fuente de poder (power Supply)
@@ancuingmecgeniumeccanicu6059 Perdóneme. La fuente de alimentación era una fuente de alimentación para computadora portátil 20V DC
@@GBWM_CNC
Gracias amigo
hi Thank you for sharing this . is that possible to have 1700 RPM with 300 gr load on it? and if its possible share your programing and code setup thx
I dont think it is possible. It's hard to run in 1700rpm without load. Maybe with a better stepper driver but I'm not sure here.
The fewer the pulses / rev the faster the motor speed. TB6600 minimum is 200 pulses/rev
M542 minimum is 400 pulses / rev. Given the same number of pulses in each test when the driver is set on the minimum, the TB6600 is capable of a faster speed.
Both were set on 1600 pulses/rev on this test
Hi sir, can i run it at speed of 400rpm?
Can you help me with that please?
Pulse is resolution.... not speed fr bro
test is irrelevant, want speed? increase voltage, BIG attention to phase inductance: < mH =more speed vs >mH =low speed (need to increse voltage) a motor with lower mH will perform a faster speed then one with higher mH at same voltage
Yes, but actually no. I mean, yes - you're absolutely right - phase inductance and voltage are the parameters which affect the speed. But this test was made just to compare if there is a difference in speed when we use different drivers with the same voltage and rest of setup. Cheers!
Which driver is the best TB6600 or DM 542 ??
Honestly I prefer DM556 over these here. Seems to be more reliable on the machine I built.
Come fai l’inversione di rotazione
Envía una señal al puerto DIR (en el controlador del motor paso a paso) que cambia la dirección de rotación
Can you help me too how to improve RPM ?? Please reply
Use highest voltage your stepper driver can be supplied for best speeds
Can 20 motors be controlled from one place?
If you have a controller with enough outputs - why not
@@GBWM_CNC
Is it possible to control 20 devices at once?
Try a DM860T stepperonline I have them on my home built cnc, make the motors run much cooler and quieter, I run at 65V.
I've heard good opinions about stepperonline stuff and the DM series are great - i've used them in some machines. The higher the voltage - the better the possible speed.
Please share me pluse generator photo....
I'm usually using arduino or cnc boards to generate pulse
It´s not a TB6600. It uses a SI09AFIG chip
Can we have code for this ?
what kind of code? I'm usually using manual control on cnc controllers for tests like this like mach3 usb control boards
I want code for speed
What kind of code?
@@GBWM_CNC i have 19kgcm motor and this both drivers. But thing is i want to run it at 400, 600rpm. But right now due to unavailabile of code i can only running it at 400pulse like 60-100 rpms
@@GBWM_CNC so can you please send me the which you have used here
@@nirmalpanchal6316 but what kind of code? What kind of pulse generator do you use? An arduino, a PLC or maybe a CNC board?
@@GBWM_CNC i have Arduino uno
Dear bro. Can you tell me the library for this example. Steppermotor or acce? Or can you show me the code. Thank you so much
I don't remember exactly what was the steps source. But this could be achieved with a CNC controller for example
Share the sketch
What sketch in detail?
TB6600 not so bad if budget is tight.
There are also different types of tb6600 but I think I wouldn't go for one anymore. I'd rather save some money and go for a dm542/dm556
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From the way your hands are shaking I can see you've obviously been drinking too much coffee why don't you take the weekend off and come back Monday morning... ☕️
The best part about this is - I don't drink coffee at all. 🧉🧉🧉
@@GBWM_CNC It was just a joke. I ordered another Camera Stabilizer it should be here by Monday morning. Have a great weekend... 🌄 😁
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