Upgrading My Workshop Security with a Lathams Steel Door

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  • Опубликовано: 4 май 2024
  • After 3 years of using my home made workshop door I have now upgraded to a steel door to increase security and reduce noise - watch as I install it start to finish.
    Lathams Steel Doors - bit.ly/44jBgZi
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  • @user-wz3ft3vy4v
    @user-wz3ft3vy4v 6 дней назад +9

    I have zero need for a door like this. I just enjoy watching someone who knows what they are doing.

    • @user-xq1xb5en8j
      @user-xq1xb5en8j 3 дня назад

      I have no need for a door like this, but after watching this i want one, ace job

  • @davesmith6193
    @davesmith6193 4 дня назад +2

    Hi Shaun. My wife and I absolutely love your channel. Been watching for ages(and subscribed). I'm 71. And have been a carpenter all my working life. And thought I knew it all. WRONG!! You are an inspiration mate, with your very soothing voice(Wife's words). Everything is made to look so easy. Now she says "Why don't you make one of those"? And some of them? You are costing me a fortune. We also love your banter when working together with Rag and bone brown. Such great entertainment!! I see you were using an electric nailer/stapler. You appear pleased with that one. I just bought one. It was sh*te. Sent it back. Would you mind telling me the make, and where you got it from, please.
    Can't wait for a new vlog, So, c'mon.
    Dave (a narrowboater).

  • @user-zn3yc4yd3h
    @user-zn3yc4yd3h 21 день назад +66

    My husband is a carpenter and has been known to borrow my kitchen knives. Except my knives are new and I am a chef !
    To teach him a lesson...I borrowed one of his wood chisels to use as a screw driver😊😊😊.
    He never borrowed my stuff again !

  • @Gisburne2000
    @Gisburne2000 21 день назад +24

    I decided to fit a steel security door on my office room to protect my expensive computer equipment. It was all going well until I closed the door, before I'd fitted the door handles, while I was inside. I went absolutely cold, realising I was in a room protected by a door you couldn't break down with a sledge hammer, even if I had one. Somehow (and I don't remember how because I was in a blind panic) I managed to operate the door mechanism and get out, but after that experience I never fully close the door with me on the inside!

    • @BandiMasha
      @BandiMasha 19 дней назад +2

      If you need to close a door before fitting handles, then make sure the room that you are in, has all of your tools in it.😮😂

    • @ernavill3261
      @ernavill3261 19 дней назад

      This is why you should fit the part of the doorhandle that goes through the doorhandle on the inside of the room. (and put it there as soon as you start fitting it). that way, even if the handle comes apart at some point, people inside the room can still get out.

    • @DAVID-bv2gv
      @DAVID-bv2gv 17 дней назад

      just like a Golf 👂🏻

  • @Guishan_Lingyou
    @Guishan_Lingyou 10 часов назад

    That windbag looked convenient. I've put in many doors by myself and I always to some wonky balancing act with a pry bar a piece of wood and my foot to lever the door up to the right height.

  • @kylevanwinkle2081
    @kylevanwinkle2081 6 дней назад +1

    Very nice install. And as you said a very well designed door.
    Nice to watch someone knowledgeable about their craft do quality work

  • @luke.mcconnell
    @luke.mcconnell 21 день назад +22

    I'm very pleased with the Lathams door I've had on my workshop for the past 5 years. One thing to note - deal with any sign of stiffness in the locking mechanism promptly. They do need lubrication from time to time.

    • @Disposalist
      @Disposalist 20 дней назад

      Any quick notes on the process of lubricating them? Cheers

    • @iCONICAACINOCi
      @iCONICAACINOCi 20 дней назад +1

      @@Disposalist Not specific to this door, but locks in general you don't want liquid oil in them as dirt gets trapped in the oil. You use dry lubricants like graphite powder.

    • @Disposalist
      @Disposalist 20 дней назад

      @@iCONICAACINOCi Yeah I have some of that, I was more wondering how to get in there to lubricate. Which bits to take off, if any, to gain access, etc.

  • @colsi7228
    @colsi7228 21 день назад +15

    Checked out the price of that door and frankly I was amazed at the price. I expected it to be much more expensive than it is, it's really, really affordable!
    Agree entirely re old Breadknives, very useful in DIY and Gardening especially for removing Dandelion roots 👍
    Always enjoy Proper DIY

    • @game4alaughman
      @game4alaughman 20 дней назад

      Much ?

    • @Disposalist
      @Disposalist 20 дней назад +1

      I'll second that. Having researched wooden and UPVC fire/security/soundproof doors, the Latham one I eventually got was no more expensive than the cheapest alternative and with better specs for fire, security and sound.

    • @clivewilliams3661
      @clivewilliams3661 19 дней назад

      These steel doorsets may be about 2x the price of a comparable off the shelf timber doorset but the installation cost is significantly less and builders love fitting them. The advantage for the customer (and builder) is that they don't warp or shrink and require no painting for years.

    • @Disposalist
      @Disposalist 19 дней назад

      @@clivewilliams3661 I found, when looking for wooden/PVC doors that were fire/sound proof and secure, the wooden/UPVC cost more, or were similar price, but weren't as high spec.
      Maybe I just couldn't find them, but I'm usually a pretty good internet purchase researcher.

  • @bryanhobson1822
    @bryanhobson1822 21 день назад +7

    I fitted what is probably an identical door from Latham's to my garage (workshop) about 9 months ago. Really good quality door, would recommend their doors to anyone looking to do this. Also, thanks Stuart for your previous video when you fitted your original door, as I used that to learn how to measure, and cut the bricks to make the opening for the door. Ended up with a really good finish, and that satisfying solid clunk when you close the door just ouzes quality.

  • @Disposalist
    @Disposalist 20 дней назад +2

    I got one from Latham for a recent garage conversion, because the door in the middle of the garage was effectively a new 'external' door for my house, even though it was beyond a reasonably secure garage door.
    Got one very much like yours, Mr ProperDIY. The chippies doing my conversion fitted it, but told me it was a doddle, even though 100kg.
    Better than your average wooden or UPVC fire/security/soundproof door and no more expensive.

  • @wereweere
    @wereweere 21 день назад +3

    I got a Latham's security door fitted 5 years ago for my steel framed shed. It's been great with the exception of horrible rust and corrosion on the door handle and lock trim. It really spoils the look of the door. I suppose I could replace the handle but I don't really want to have to shell out for a new one every 5 years.

  • @MikeSmith-sg9pt
    @MikeSmith-sg9pt 21 день назад +11

    Well that saves me looking for a supplier for my workshop door! They've thought of every eventuality of the installation. The locking system looks like it would make a pretty decent bank vault!

    • @clivewilliams3661
      @clivewilliams3661 19 дней назад

      There are a number of steel external door manufacturers and probably one locally. Its now commonplace for these to be fitted in all industrial buildings in lieu of the old solid cored timber doors that inevitably get a useless bit of steel plate on the face as quasi 'security' that does nothing but strain the hinges. These metal doors are cheap to install as shown here and require no easing after the event or the contractor being called back to fix/replace a timber door that has shrunk or warped. And all this with a finish that won't require painting for years. I have spec'd steel doors for the last 25 years and they can be had with incorporated double glazed panels, my neighbour has one with 4 small glazed panels to the kitchen side door that very neatly complements the aluminium door and screen to the front of the house. This installation has been in place for the last 10 years and looks as good now as it did when it was first fitted.

  • @brynsmith414
    @brynsmith414 3 дня назад

    It looks like you showed the key number, you might have to change the barrel, it’s a really nice door, nice install

  • @mattmmk
    @mattmmk 21 день назад +2

    I genuinely find Stuart inspirational.
    Cool DIY stuff is why I'm here but his passion for making these videos is so apparent and very charming.
    Fair play to you Stuart!

  • @andljoy
    @andljoy 21 день назад +9

    That little pump up bag is a fantastic idea !

    • @dreddredd7137
      @dreddredd7137 21 день назад

      It seems they are also good for car doors .

    • @kroneditor9266
      @kroneditor9266 21 день назад +1

      @@dreddredd7137 Not in a good way though :-(

    • @dreddredd7137
      @dreddredd7137 21 день назад

      @@kroneditor9266 No indeed , only if it is an emergancy .

    • @hendersonjp
      @hendersonjp 21 день назад +1

      Yes I have two for car doors , when people lock their keys inside lol.

    • @isyt1
      @isyt1 21 день назад +1

      @@dreddredd7137Well they’re good on American car doors because they’re not allowed to have deadlocks for fire safety reasons like we have in the EU. So in America they can slide a wire in and lift the handle or pull the door lock.

  • @markomoore1419
    @markomoore1419 21 день назад +12

    Nice job, you made that look so easy

  • @susanvasquez3625
    @susanvasquez3625 18 дней назад

    4:47 This is also where you would want to check your mortar (if installing into brick) for repointing needs. Unless you are trying to do a one-day job. of course. :)

  • @graemescott990
    @graemescott990 21 день назад +2

    I have fitted a Lathams fire exit steel door and they are an excellent company to deal with and fitting the door couldn't have been easier.

  • @mrtnsnp
    @mrtnsnp 6 дней назад +1

    I noticed that the cilinder is extending a little beyond the cover plate on the outside of the door. This makes it possible to grab the cilinder with a pair of pliers, and break the lock in two parts. Adding a thin extra plate between the cover and the door should prevent this from happening.

  • @martinwalton2850
    @martinwalton2850 21 день назад +4

    I’ve just had our garage up and over door replaced with two hinged steel doors from Lathams. I think they look great and are very well made. My wife is not so sure but I think they’re a work of art! 😊

  • @Chris_In_Texas
    @Chris_In_Texas 2 дня назад

    Looks great, but being from the USA, its strange to just see brick all by itself, as both the exterior and structure of the building. We have brick facade, followed by an air-grap of about 1-2", then 1.5" waterproof insulated wooden sheathing, which is nailed to 2x6's, which are encased in spray foam, then 5/8" sheet-rock. Keep up the good work. I do like the locking method of that door and would love to see more of that here. While we have steel wrought iron doors, the locking mechanisms are crap compared to that door for sure. 👍🤠

  • @fishbiscuit2000
    @fishbiscuit2000 14 дней назад +1

    Those wind out lugs are a great idea. Haven't come across them before.

  • @musthavechannel5262
    @musthavechannel5262 21 день назад +5

    The color matching is very satisfying.

  • @bugbuster11
    @bugbuster11 21 день назад +7

    A wire saw would have cut through the silicone around the door frame in about 5 minutes. They're used to remove car windshields cutting through polyurethane adhesive with ease.

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  21 день назад

      Who owns a wire saw?

    • @stephenmcgeown
      @stephenmcgeown 21 день назад +1

      Cool to know about wire saws. I appreciated that info anyway!

    • @theglowcloud2215
      @theglowcloud2215 19 дней назад

      @@ProperDIY anyone with 10 quid, I reckon

  • @christipler5067
    @christipler5067 21 день назад +4

    Lathams have certainly improved their doors and fixing kits from several years ago, another very interesting video Stuart, thank you.

  • @simonlunt353
    @simonlunt353 6 дней назад

    As a joiner I have fitted a few doors and frames and that includes pvc 😂 so I was quite impressed with how the frame fits into your opening and the locking into the head nice job sir 👍

  • @awantamta
    @awantamta 21 день назад +1

    What a door and expertly installed

  • @andyc972
    @andyc972 21 день назад +4

    Brilliant Stuart, what a nice change to find something that is well designed and where some real effort has been made to make thing as smooth as possible for the installer - looks like a great product ! As always you show, a practical and organised way of going about a project like this, btw I totally agree about a bread-knife - should be in every DIY tool-kit !

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  21 день назад

      Glad you enjoyed it

  • @utilitarian
    @utilitarian 21 день назад +2

    I’ve been looking at these for a while now. My shed door is broken. These look really good and love the spacers on the frame!

  • @geraldfitzgibbon7428
    @geraldfitzgibbon7428 21 день назад +1

    Looks almost like a profesinal job
    Only teasing door looks great. Good job

  • @karenalefounder4083
    @karenalefounder4083 21 день назад

    Fantastic looking door. Well installed matey.

  • @johndglynn
    @johndglynn 21 день назад +1

    Good looking door nicely installed!

  • @shaun30-3-mg9zs
    @shaun30-3-mg9zs 19 дней назад +1

    Solid and safe and secure, looks great good job

  • @karate-rye9964
    @karate-rye9964 21 день назад

    Thanks for all your hard work and videos! I'm a member of Men in sheds Charity in Hornsea, I love your creations, they definitely helped me with my woodworking.

  • @philtebble4390
    @philtebble4390 21 день назад +5

    Your videos are very high quality now Stuart 👌

  • @Jordan_0121
    @Jordan_0121 21 день назад

    Lovely addition to the video collection Stuart. That was a great watch!

  • @user-gr4sk4jw5q
    @user-gr4sk4jw5q 15 дней назад

    very nice door! I like the sound when she closes.

  • @jasonmoncrieff7449
    @jasonmoncrieff7449 21 день назад

    Great job Stuart!

  • @carllamb6711
    @carllamb6711 21 день назад

    Great job, Stuart lovely end result 😊😊

  • @Peter-kj5nr
    @Peter-kj5nr 21 день назад +2

    Thanks for the video - super job of fitting the door - looks lovely!

  • @vespamorelli7090
    @vespamorelli7090 21 день назад +1

    Very well thought out system 👌🏻

  • @pault1289
    @pault1289 17 дней назад

    Reasonably happy with our Lathams steel doors - it looks like they've improved them a bit. As ours would only take their supplied euro cylinders, which was a pain. And the drip bar on both has corroded.
    As others have said, you need to stay on top of lubrication with so many bolts, I found graphite powder worked well.

  • @techieboy333
    @techieboy333 21 день назад +1

    You beauty, Stuart. I've had one of their doors propped up on the existing pedestrian door of my garage for, I think it will be, 3 years this November after a Black Friday sale of theirs. Haven't summoned up the courage or the strength to tackle the job but will definitely be doing it in the next month or so, now.

  • @bradleytuckwell4881
    @bradleytuckwell4881 21 день назад

    What a great system

  • @antonyporter5045
    @antonyporter5045 21 день назад +1

    cracking job

  • @CEO786
    @CEO786 21 день назад +3

    Beautiful door, great job. ❤

  • @tayred81
    @tayred81 21 день назад

    Perfect installation 👍🏻

  • @RFW1979
    @RFW1979 20 дней назад

    Very nice door and you fit it very well. Nice job.

  • @martinhunt6004
    @martinhunt6004 21 день назад

    Most splendid Stuart! A great choice of door correct.

  • @lrdisco2005
    @lrdisco2005 16 дней назад

    Brilliant idea, simple but effective

  • @nevillewebb2856
    @nevillewebb2856 19 дней назад +1

    Nice job Stuart 👍

  • @imprezaaudi
    @imprezaaudi 12 дней назад

    Just fitted same door to my daughter's garage. Straight forward, if but heavy getting door back on the frame.

  • @phil2900
    @phil2900 19 дней назад

    Great choice. I bought a one and a half leaf door from Lathams. Very good choice. Great service and would well recommend them

  • @janebutz5375
    @janebutz5375 21 день назад

    Stuart, you make everything interesting! I have enjoyed all of your videos on both channels. But you had me from the first broken broom handle!

  • @c.a.g.1977
    @c.a.g.1977 21 день назад

    Well done Stuart! The new door surely increases the security greatly. No one can get into ProperDIY headquarters now!

  • @davem4423
    @davem4423 17 дней назад

    Fantastic video , im doing similar replacing an up & over garage door, plan was to pay someone....now i know how its done, thanks mate , i'm giving it a try now.....wish me luck...

  • @brianwood5220
    @brianwood5220 20 дней назад

    Hi Stuart, Fantastic door, nobody's getting through that. In fact it would be easier to take a sledge hammer to that single skin brick wall, than bother with the door. I think your next task should be to put an inner brick skin (with tie rods) within your workshop. It's a good idea for another video.

  • @SimT8
    @SimT8 21 день назад

    Great video. You make it look so easy. Watched your link and see they also do front doors, which makes more sense than a UPVC door and probably cheaper 👍

  • @denisecassels8582
    @denisecassels8582 21 день назад

    Fantastic job

  • @andrewlitchfield4843
    @andrewlitchfield4843 21 день назад

    Really nice job! love the adjustable frame.... much better than fitting a Upvc door with loads of packets and junk!👍

  • @GeordiLaForgery
    @GeordiLaForgery 21 день назад +3

    Nice work

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  21 день назад +1

      Thank you! Cheers!

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  21 день назад +1

      Thank you! Cheers!

  • @christianpetersen1782
    @christianpetersen1782 21 день назад +1

    Well done Stuart. A big job for just one person. I don’t suppose Lathams make brooms that the heads don’t fall off!

  • @lee99111
    @lee99111 16 дней назад

    That is awesome and would make a nice front door

  • @videostarish
    @videostarish 21 день назад +1

    Nice..! I'm a joiner, & have installed MANY doors & door frames/sets, & I too get frustrated with the packers/shims falling out. I recently Google searched for 'adjustable shim' & came-up with this shim-screw called 'Top-star shim screw'
    I haven't used any, but watching their video, it looked just the ticket ..🤔👍

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  21 день назад +1

      Oo they look interesting - I’ve not seen those before

  • @artyb27
    @artyb27 21 день назад

    I never thought a steel security door would qualify as DIY but wow, you make it look really straightforward. Definitely keeping this video in my bookmarks for when the time comes.

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  21 день назад

      Thanks for watching!

  • @XL-5117
    @XL-5117 19 дней назад

    Stuart is the god of DIY! All hail Stuart!!!

  • @cabottaxi
    @cabottaxi 20 дней назад

    Cracking job . Only different thing I would have done would be to fit it opening outwards.
    The Euro cylinder locks can also be easily snapped as well so I'd be looking to see if it was an anti snap one.

  • @richardstamper5630
    @richardstamper5630 20 дней назад

    That was like therapy for me... Scott from SDM Doors fitted mine, all I did was make the coffee but lovely work Stuart.

  • @paultomlinson528
    @paultomlinson528 21 день назад

    Struth what a door!

  • @davidclare955
    @davidclare955 21 день назад

    That's a great door

  • @RB-xg2vz
    @RB-xg2vz 21 день назад

    Great video. This is on my to do list.

  • @Joe-lb8qn
    @Joe-lb8qn 17 дней назад

    Very nice.

  • @one-lifetime
    @one-lifetime 17 дней назад

    Nice door id swap out the Lock cylinder and add the Ultion diamond cylinder anti snap drill ect ect

  • @tomalex4806
    @tomalex4806 21 день назад

    Great installation. For added security I'd install a heavy duty maglock

  • @RFC3514
    @RFC3514 21 день назад +1

    6:30 - You can actually gain around 5 cm simply by _lifting_ the piece you're cutting.

  • @TheRealNVT
    @TheRealNVT 19 дней назад

    Loving your channel

  • @jdk_6159
    @jdk_6159 15 дней назад

    Hoping the nice strong and sturdy door doesn't have an easy to pick lock as I know the cylinders can be snapped easy peasy.

  • @tonysutton6559
    @tonysutton6559 21 день назад +1

    We had DIY steel doors like that at our sailing club. They slowed down the thieves who pinched our engines by about 5 minutes as they ripped the locks apart.
    We had some thicker steel ones professionally fitted with better locks but the same thing happened.
    Our next doors were so much stronger that they knocked down part of the brick wall. 😐

    • @dougsaunders8109
      @dougsaunders8109 19 дней назад

      Very similar thing with a gardening equipment. It makes it much more likely the next door neighbour is targeted first

    • @tonysutton6559
      @tonysutton6559 19 дней назад

      @@dougsaunders8109 unfortunately we don't have neighbours.

  • @bikerchrisukk
    @bikerchrisukk 21 день назад

    I've got a Latham door on an outbuilding used for tool storage, pretty decent and easy enough to fit. Really expensive but I think worth it...a friend said it made it look like a crack den which made me chuckle 😆

  • @bill8784
    @bill8784 21 день назад +3

    Brilliant job. Very impressed. Well done.

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  21 день назад +1

      Thank you very much!

  • @olewurtz7625
    @olewurtz7625 20 дней назад

    A very detailed and informative video as always, that I wish would have been available when I installed my Lantham door 5-6 months ago and was hoping that you’d be installing the friction stay as well. I haven’t fitted it yet. Not quite certain about the exact mounting location in relation to the hinge pivot points.

  • @SGtidbits
    @SGtidbits 9 дней назад

    It's an impressive door with all those bolts all around, but the fact that they're all controlled by the same lock and key means there is still just one weak point to overcome. The lockpicking lawyer would surely get in there in no time without making a ruckus.

  • @BrodaPaul
    @BrodaPaul 21 день назад

    Very nice stu

  • @nineteen-sixty-nine9373
    @nineteen-sixty-nine9373 21 день назад

    I like it.Easier to install and nice and sturdy.

  • @300Exige
    @300Exige 20 дней назад

    Nice vid as always 👍🏻

  • @montyzumazoom1337
    @montyzumazoom1337 20 дней назад

    Great job and a fine looking door.
    I just hope the firemen never need to try and get through it to rescue you....!😳
    Very well filmed and narrated video.

  • @fumthings
    @fumthings 20 дней назад

    in Sweden they make those wind out lugs for any wooden doors and windows, you can easily buy them but only in Sweden.

  • @stevenbennett3922
    @stevenbennett3922 15 дней назад

    Proper job!

  • @f1acha
    @f1acha 21 день назад +1

    Everything but the door, standard fixed frame and maybe the fixing kit are add-ons. Quick check of the site is about £700. Seems expensive until you start pricing up everything you've stored in the shed :). Just make sure your roof panels and blockwork aren't the weak link.

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  21 день назад +2

      It’s not ‘cheap’ for sure but once you price up a wooden door plus frame and hardware you are probably up to £400+

    • @f1acha
      @f1acha 21 день назад

      @@ProperDIY Less maintenance and much longer life than a wooden door / frame also.

  • @bobp6742
    @bobp6742 16 дней назад

    That's one beast of a door almost makes me wish i lived in a high crime area so i could fit one 😂

  • @MrDhandley
    @MrDhandley 21 день назад

    Very very impressive Stuart. It’s almost like you know what you’re doing! 😂😂. Great work as always. 👍

  • @sidremey
    @sidremey 21 день назад +1

    Very nice door and excellent installation instructions - how did you know how deep to cut the notch in the sill btw?
    14:28 I would replace that cheap handle with something like a high security Hoppe Atlanta PAS 24 handle instead. Those cheap handles can be torn apart with mole grips which then gives direct access to the lock itself.

  • @JohnSmith-ws7fq
    @JohnSmith-ws7fq 20 дней назад

    Looks great 👍 I'm guessing the eurolock is the weak point though.

  • @typhoontim125
    @typhoontim125 21 день назад

    Fab job

  • @ASofficial
    @ASofficial 21 день назад

    hey , a pro tip for u flip the Tonge of door anti pick

  • @crux314
    @crux314 15 дней назад

    Thank you very much for sharing this. I've been thinking on installing a sacurity door myself for a long time.
    Kindly suggest using eye protection, specially when doing overhead work.
    Thanks again.

  • @lizzapaolia959
    @lizzapaolia959 21 день назад

    Outstanding video of yours. Unfortunately your correct in the criminal element.
    God bless you and your beautiful country 🙏

    • @lizzapaolia959
      @lizzapaolia959 21 день назад

      Hello, we found the doors for sale in the USA. Thank you for sharing this video..
      BTW many of the single cylinder European look cylinders are being bypassed by using a thin wire with a loop on the end. The loop engaged with the interior thumb piece. Turning the wire allows the lock to be opened showing no signs of forced entry. Apparently the newer locks are being designed to prevent this bypass.
      Thank you for sharing your videos 🙏

  • @IM-ei5rb
    @IM-ei5rb 21 день назад +1

    The old door looked pretty good

  • @hder8740
    @hder8740 8 дней назад

    Now hopefully nobody steels that beautiful door….. it’s great but I suggest buying a better cilinder for it. Great video. Kind regards

  • @sebastien79a
    @sebastien79a 20 дней назад

    And appears to be a 3* Sold Secure Diamond lock - big mistake would be to install a "standard" (cheap) euro profile cylinder! :)