Refunding the Council Tax
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- Tim Davies joins me to explain how he has been able to have his council tax payments refunded.
His Telegram Group is called CouncilTaxRefunds
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The only way to beat the council tax is for everybody to stand together and say no ,but looking back over the last 3 years I won’t hold my breath.
Exactly how many will there be of 'enough' people before you take the leap yourself? Thousands of people are already doing it, and have done for years. 'Waiting for everybody' is just fear talking.
plenty of people have done it and have forced the council to desist chasing.
Im on benefits but own my home outright? I have a lot to lose if I take any of this advice.
Was there no property/services tax before poll tax introduction that became council tax? To think there never used to be an income tax and it was meant to only be a temporary measure.
@@TheCNCDen How does one prevent the bailiffs they send? Councils are allowed to send them in to take away possessions etc. I forget the exact terms used but they don't need permission for entry for this unlike other debts.
With sunak deciding he isn't going to allow citizens to smoke, the tax loss is going to be huge, where is the shortfall going to be stolen from?
Dont worry all D in 2025
Smoking rates have steadily declined over the last 40 years, it’ll come to an inevitable end anyway. No one is being disallowed from smoking, just they won’t be available to buy for 14 year olds when they get to 18, if people are that desperate someone else will buy it for them anyway.
Reduction in benefits and elderly heating payments to start with.
@@derekmoore8224 those with the medical intervention anyway.
@@mwd331they addicted to the vapes now
The council actually sent me a letter to go to court about none payment of council tax so i rang the council office and asked what court room id appear in she said she couldn't tell me, I told her I knew I wouldn't be in a court room but a rented office and I knew I wouldn't be in front of a judge but a council worker, she hung up on me! 😊
Excellent! Good job! Well done! 👍👍👍
I have had so my council and court officers hang up when you ask the right questions.
I wrote to the local Court on several occasions, they eventually sent me a letter stating that they authorise the council to issue the paperwork. When pressing for further information they returned my letter with a post it note on it suggesting I took it up with the Council. 😂
So admire your skill
DSARS HMCTS@@susanm8669
It's time to dismiss these corporations masquerading as service providers and surely the people should take control of their boroughs and towns again
have you
@@andrewbarry1380Of course he has, if you look out of your front room window at 7:00 on a wednesday morning, you'll see him collecting your refuse. At 16:00 he'll be round again to fix the dodgy street light down the end of the road, and in between he'll be supervising lunchtime, and then supervising the after school club at the local primary school. At 19:00 he starts his shift at the council (it now belongs to him) homeless shelter, returning home at 3:00 am, to get some sleep, before the whole process starts again at 6:00 am, and he doesn't get paid a penny for any of it, because he's taken back control of his council. Good old Hopgoodd, freedom never felt so good.
The only way
@@paulhillman400the council receives funding from the government and covers all that
My local council workers from mayoresses to councillors are the biggest grifters !!
At last ..he’s so right…all electric suppliers!!?????? Are not suppling you power or gas ..it’s a con…it comes straight from the grid…🤣👍
I've just cancelled my utility bills
Exactly! As Tim says, despite not paying his utilities bill, they haven't cut off his electricity, he's still got lights.
@@janyb1907 I cancelled mine in December 2022 due to deplorable customer service. The lovely E.Con Next 😂
@@janyb1907 well done you..good luck..
Your energy supplier does not get the gas and electric for free!They actually buy it in bulk from the wholesalers.About 40% of our bills pays for the gas and electricity.The rest is paid to the National Grid ,the gas network operators and the rest goes on green taxes and the energy suppliers themselves such as Octopus Energy ,who take about 10% for their own costs.The myth that the suppliers only own the meters is ludicrous.It's just like petrol stations ....they buy the petrol in bulk and re-sell it to motorists but only keep a tiny percentage.
I have a life where I don't pay council tax or income tax. I chose it ,because I don't want to fund corruption.I got out of the system 5 years ago. I don't claim any benefits either. Im 61 now and hopefully I will make it to national pension age where I can claim back the tax and national insurance I paid for 35 years.
How do you live and fund yourself? If you own a property have they attempted to put a charge on it or something in relation to council tax? What is your life style. I agree. This system is so corrupt and evil that participating in and paying tax of any sort to them really sticks in the throat. I feel the same and am a similar age.
@@user-tq1qd3iu2t I sold up bought a narrowboat and a campervan, cashed in 2 pensions and live a brilliant life. It's all about what you need to be free and not about being pushed into being a cash cow for the state. Keep your annual income from your pension below £12,000 and you don't pay tax. The simpler life becomes and the less burdens you have the happier you become.
Same here 5 years out of the system...then at age 55 i got 40 grand personal wealth plan payment thanks to mrs Thatcher ...a 1989 scheme i sighed into ...BUT only paid into it for a month then closed it due to travelling usa ....didn't know government was paying into it until 2012 ...nice birthday pres lol ...this countrys a blast ....😂
@@chrisstones37Can you remember what that was called was it Serps or something like that?
@@thepeacefulmumma7055 yes is was .....thought i had been ripped off as a twenty year old ....could kiss the guy now ....🤣
No council tax no 15 minute cities , if the government had to fund councils like it used to our money would be spent here on the country instead of endless wars.
15 minute cities are what people want. You complain there are no doctors surgeries, dentists, schools etc close by
Saw Tim's video on claiming concil tax back in May. Decided to follow his lead and succeeded in getting 4 years worth of concil tax paid back using the direct debit indemnity guarantee like Tim describes. Top man, I owe him a pint.
Awesome! Good job! Well done! 👍👍👍
Why only 4 years?
Now be careful you don't get investigated for it because the payments were not made in error and in saying they were you have committed fraud
Burnoutsuperman09. But the refunds you've had are, in effect, paid for by your neighbours. Have you thought of that? I guess not.
@@terryhigson434you know nothing
I begrudge having to pay a second tax on top of my paye. The tax I pay on my wages are supposed to pay for services.
So you don't pay road fund license or VAT either?
@@StudentDad-mc3pu. Not if you could get away with it no
@@StudentDad-mc3pu I don't own a car so no I don't pay tax on a road fund for the car but a lot of my paye taxes goes towards the upkeep of roads.
As for vat,,,, that is one of the biggest cons going.
Edit,,,, it's just as big a con as the council tax.
@@alexanderevanska4274 I know - it's annoying isnt it. I get £150 per day but only see £109 of it.
If everyone only paid only ten % of their income tax i'm sure this would balance out up the chain.The wealthy would equalise as much as the none wealthy ?
yes, most people are under the illusion that what they pay the council goes towards serving the community and local interests, but sadly this doesnt seem to be the case at all. Instead it seems to go into the bottomless pit of paying off a dubious 'national debt', and funds illegal foreign wars, hence the pot holes, and lack of services, especially for our elderly that have paid their entire lives. I have worked out that our small town provides just under 1 million pounds A WEEK in council tax, and we as a community get close to nothing back, with no transparency or accountability of where our money goes. We have a right to know what exactly we are paying for, to whom, and why. It is my understanding that these councils are private corporations, no different from any other business, and exist solely to make money. It is fraudulent and deceitful. Time to hold them to account, and starve the beast. I would also like to point out that they are supposed to be our servants, not the other way around.
Dont forget their copper bottomed pensions,.
i also remember 2008 when the banks went down, and it came to light that our council had stashed 1.5 million quid in Iceland Bank. No investigation and nobody held to account. never found out who authorised it, and what it was intended for. Swept under the carpet. I wonder how much they have stashed this time. @@graceydavis429
Councils actually get an annual budget from the government. IOW, taxpayers' money. So to pay council tax is to be double-taxed, which is unlawful and illegal. Money for the war comes from all the taxes collected, bulk of which are income tax and VAT. Budgets for each council also come from this revenue collection, which are routinely wasted on unnecessary projects and superfluous events. Point is, there is just NO NEED to pay council tax.
Well said, it's OUR money.
and cern
We need to unite and collectively claim payments back 😊
It's a great idea but also fraud
@@RufusCapstickwhat's fraud? The lack of a contract?
@@growapairepaire7354the blackbelt barrister explains it.
@@growapairepaire7354 It's an implied contract. It doesn't have to be a written and signed agreement.
I didn't pay my council tax at all, it was a poll tax by another name, I just didn't engage with any communication from the council even threats to send me to prison! nothing happened and I didn't pay anything, all just unenforceable threats.
What about them taking it out of wage or benefits, how do you avoid that 🤔
What about them taking it out of wage or benefits, how do you avoid that
didnt they send collection agents around, i didnt pay mine and ignored all letters , then it was handed to collection agents who raised a £800 bill to £2000 , so i got it handed back to the council (by finding a flaw in their paperwork so they had to give me a new total ) i just paid that .
@@incorectulpolitic Apparently they need your consent, let them know that.
They will try debt collector way 3 times.. The debt will be returned to the c/tax then they will send a form to itemise your income/expenditure. If you fill this in and return it you have tacitly given consent for an attachment of earnings.. . i havent paid C/tax for years. I dont open my front door to anyone if im not expecting them.. Still here and i have saved thousands!!! Rule of thumb . DO NOT converse contract or consent. Stood me in good staid xx
No reason for Seniors or Families with children to freeze this winter nor go hungry. Wonderful.
Pretty sure they cannot legally cut off services to families (kids under 18) elderly (pension age) as they must have access to heat/light. This is never spoken of when they talk about energy costs crises and ways to help people through the winter, wonder why??
@@sunmoonstars3879 What about elderly people though because they are in need of heating and electricity. If they don't get heat then it kills them much easier. Why only children? As I understand it Ofgem does mention young children but not elderly and I know the suppliers do cut off elderly, they get court orders for prepayment meters or switch smart meters to PPM with no warrants or court orders.
When we first got electricity we had no meters at all but the government convinced the people it was needed to measure its use and then the next step was a monthly charge for use based on unit kWh. It was always a lie because the grid, network operators, producers all use their own meters to measure load and use.
There triple dipping
1) a billing statement means what was due and payed,some people approve the statement.
The giro coupon is a check,they use your credit.every so called bill they send represents how much of your credit they use.
Plus your cash payments
None of the people who work on the front desks know what's going of,but the people in there legal departments and chief financial officers all know what's going off.
I zeroed account out 13 years ago with a home made prom note for £800 over the phone.
I “moved out” several months ago & stopped paying utilities & council tax. Now all “bills” go to “the occupier”. That is not me so on my fire they go. I’ve not yet attempted any DDI claims but this has inspired me to give it a go. Thank you!
Well done, I did it 2 year ago, I'm still paying nothing, no contact, no consent,
Can you explain about moving out please.?
@@maryboyd6636 just go through the procedure of moving out without actually moving out. Do not attempt to interact with them or their lackeys after the final bills have been settled. This is not advice and if you had to ask this, I would defo look into it a bit before attempting anything - there may be possible repercussions (all optics). Good luck!
@@maryboyd6636Basically, Nick has lied to the authorities about his status, this probably means that he has no house insurance. How do you feel about the "moving out " process now ?.
@paulhillman400 brilliant we should all do this they have no Authority over us we are sovereign and free.
The amount of money the government prints to keep big banks and financial institutes afloat, is far more than the council tax collected. If they can give money to their rich friends they can stop council tax robbery
Over £30 Billion was spent on track and trace. The local councils we are told have budgets cut from central government every year. £30 Billion is a lot of money even when distributed fairly among the many councils across the land. Someone is lying, and some people are getting very rich on the back of it.
£30bn is more than the cost of every nurse in the NHS. Show your source data or I call bullshit.
@@ToothTalksTaste Why should I pamper to your laziness? Check it out dude.
@@simont1108 you got nothing or you'd show it. You're chatting shit mate blah blah blah
@@ToothTalksTasteOK Billy big bollocks. The original budget was £22billion with a further £15 billion set aside (UK Parliament 10/3/2021), "Failed its main objective despite an eye watering £37 billion funding " ( Guardian 27/10 2021)., and on 28/10 /2021 an FOI request for the a breakdown of how the money was spent was refused by the DHSC etc. etc....
On track and trace? The Royal Mail service? Dìckhead.
Pull your money from banks, kids from schools, buy local. If it’s not in season don’t buy it.
We need to fight with money
Yep… Freemason greed must be exposed and avoided!
how do you get paid your slave wage ?
@@incorectulpolitic You don’t work for slave masters.
Pull up your skirt, grab your balls and start your own business.
Be your own master. Control the money you make
The issue as always is that the situation is completely different for those who have assets and those who don't. If you are on benefits, I agree you have little to lose, so go for it. If you own your own house, probably not much choice at the moment.
Put your house in trust an make your kids beneficiaries
@@zkovacs01 Yes, 100%. I would say those who rely on 'the system' have far more to lose.
Yes you can put your house in a Trust, depending on how you approach your trust and make it watertight if it isn’t; then these people will still steal your property, (I’ve seen it happen with very switched on people, but they lived in a belief system that if they wrote fancy words and claimed this is the law, the law would protect them all it did is delayed the process, until one of the Banksters Judges put his interpretation on it). If you own a house and don’t need to risk everything then learn as much as possible before putting you and your family at risk, anyone with property should have a trusted party put a registered charge against their property for more than your property is worth, even if you have a 1st charge put a second one in place don’t inform the mortgage company as they will obviously object, it’s your house don’t ask for permission. This isn’t legal advice legal advice is privately owned by the bar guild society. Nevertheless think about it if you have nothing to come after what’s the point in pursuing.
@@stuartmckenzie8095what is a registered charge ?
@@foyerfelin When you obtain a mortgage the alleged lender has you sign a standard security over your property done by your solicitor, this gives them 1st charge over your property should you fail to pay they can use this security to start the process to steal your property in the Banksters Courts. You can obtain the required forms from the land register to put a second charge on your property no need for a solicitor, (there will be a fee of a couple of hundred pounds or so) and identification from both parties will be required, now a solicitor and your lender will claim because the bank has 1st charge ( if you have a mortgage) that you need their permission, it’s your home not theirs if you trust the party you are applying to put a charge in their name then you are giving them security for any equity that may remain in your property, therefore if you fall into hard times but are managing to keep your payments up with the lender, any equity is already taken by the second charge. If you are mortgage free this would become a first charge. The first things these vultures do is check the land register to see if you are worth pursuing. The funny thing about the WEF slogan you will own nothing and be happy, is there is a twist of truth in this, if you manage your trust properly you really will own nothing and be happy.
Yes, I'd love to see the day when we stand together and refuse collectively to pay for what WE, the people of this country, consider is not fair and doesn't serve our best interest. Yes, I hope this day is coming soon when we don't need to wait for them at "the parliament crib" to tell us what to do and decide what's best for us. We have our own hearts and brains, we don't need theirs to speak on our behalf. Council tax, just one of the bills that no one can justify... and the increase year by year is way too high!
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Sounds like a good job for the No win no fee companies
The no win , no fee companies won't touch it, because it's nonsense. Tim still owes the council.
@@paulhillman400Correct Paul the Black Belt Barrister has confirmed it’s all bollocks on his channel.
@@ouchgout5705Too many clowns hanging around here, all desperate to follow the lead of a lazy waster, who doesn't work, is on benefits, refuses to pay council tax, refuses to pay for his electricity, and is well known in court. What is wrong with these people, what do they think is going to happen if everyone refuses to pay for the services that they receive, do they think the water in the taps will keep flowing, the lights will continue to shine when the switch is flicked, the refuse will still be collected?. Spoiler alert , none of the above will continue, and civilised society will collapse, but hey, the clowns here still think that Tim is such a wise man
No win, No fee, No fools..............taxi for Tim.
I live in Australia and I am dissatisfied with the cost of my council rates. I did not give them permission to spray weedkiller on my house frontage and also have not given them permission for the aluminium and chlorine that is added to our water supply. We have no voice in how they spend our money. I have no footpaths in my street and many street and road signs are that old one cannot read same. We pay thousands of dollars per year and the only service I get is my rubbish is collected once per week. WEF states we will own nothing and I believe this is part of their plan.
Because the debt collectors are 3rd party interlopers.
In Scotland, if you own your house, they will go for sequestration (bankruptcy) and go for your house. Be careful
Similar in england tbh
Put your house into a trust, they will have no power to do anything.
@kayoss11 so very wrong .
Same in Australia, but remember to reply to all correspondence including the invoice with, offer declined, no consent, no agreement, no contract. Once a reply such as this given the council can not start proceedings unless you are informed. Never tell them your rights or make assertions, just ask smart questions that make them prove their point by what authority they have over you and your property. Burden of proof is on the accuser, we are all innocent. Courts are courts of equity (trusts). Look into, there is loads of valuable information out there.
@@kayoss11 they will pursue the trustees.
As an individual you need to know yourself and how you feel about challenging the system/authorities, for some people it would mean sleepless nights - it's only money.
This money that is only money that they take in taxation is what funds this diabolical government system that does little else but cause you problems and screw up your life. No representaion without taxation so when you have no representation which we don't there should be no taxation.
Your money.....
It’s not “only money “ , it’s much more than that.
It's only fear, fearless people always win.
@@haydnlawrence8167 I value my health and well being above money - simple as that.
Tim is a hero and having experienced my own (altogether different) council tax dilemma, I have been inspired to fight on. Once again, Richard has interviewed a fascinating person who makes us feel that we are not alone in this rotten world. Keep up the good work, gentlemen!
This is very interesting and I'm wondering about those who at the start of poll/council tax who either couldn't afford to pay it or simply refused to pay it and ended up going to prison..... pensioners included! Could they (knowing what is known now) apply for compensation?
Great interview Richard...thank u Tim 👍
I think we know the answer to that is yes, those in prison over this would be entitled to compensation. There is also "Fraud makes null and void." So I think everyone will be getting all their council tax back.
Good point
Could this be one of the reasons why they pushed the medical intervention so they reduce the number of repayments??
@@11abrook 'So I think everyone will be getting all their council tax back.' - I would like to know where 'they' will get the money from - most councils are so badly run that they invariably are in debt up to their eyeballs!
@@martinp17EXACTLY! They will get it from government bailouts. In other words, the taxpayers
Amazing what one can learn after doing a little investigation into things we have all been lead to believe are legal! The use of fear to perpetuate these various schemes is insidious and
despicable. I think that people are really starting
to wake up and question many of the things
that are going on around us. Thank you Richard
for bringing on this knowledgeable guest to
your podcast. He is opening our eyes to the
significant shortcomings in many of the
schemes we have been forced to participate
in all these years. I suspect that it is time for
these systems to crumble, and allow for
more equitable ways of doing things to be
implemented in their place! You are
definitely giving us all food for thought, as to how things could be for the future. Thank you for
all your efforts Richard, they are much
appreciated by everyone! Keep up the good
work!!!
This guest is the best! Thankyou for the knowledge Richard. Richard the lion heart ♥️
What's the link to Richards Chanel,, don't even know surname 😮
Thank you , Richard !
And a big thank you to your guest !
It's obvious that this channel does not offer legal advice , it's about Lawful Remedy!
The trouble with any action like this, is my guess this bloke doesn't own his home if he's on benefits, the establishment could simply compulsory purchase your home. And many other attacks on you. If you've got nothing they want they don't bother so much but if you do them look out.
I feel if he is renting, he would have been evicted easier than if you own your home.
@@eartheart3694If he is a private renter & paying his rent, it would but be a problem.
@@eartheart3694 where you get that from because he might be in private renting not council
Sorry mate ..they can’t take your home..Bills of exchange 1689..That all grants and promises of fines and forfeitures ofparticular persons before conviction are illegal and void…The settlement act ..also states we are entitled to shelter …these are both primary laws which cannot be altered with out the consent of the people..
@@pippamellon8678They can if they prosecute you and win the case.
Harvesting energy from the ether. This fella from Zimbabwe, hilarious. After listening to that, it tells me everything I need to know about this fella. 😂
6,000 people in Portsmouth have said no to poll tax.
And it worked , as Poll Tax doesn't exist .
@@normanpearson8753I heard that the people of Portsmouth are also pushing back against the window tax. We'll have to see how they get on.
Great work Portsmouth, its great to hear such examples . I am from Australian and there was country town that was over run by the drug folk and it was destroying the youth in the area. The people band together and pushed back and to this day there has been not problems with the drug people who were growing and shipping drugs from that town. It helped that this place was filled with farmers who by law were able to hold a rifle . America is right - never give up your gun rights - its the last defence between you and the fckg bastards that want to destroy your way of life and your kids - and I am not talking about normal folk who for the most part just want a safe home, family and financial peace of mind - I am speaking of the powers that be that enjoy running normal folk into the ground and the more painful destructive it is the bigger the jolly they get from it happening. However, Portsmouth has shown us all how on mass you can be just as successful if you pull TOGETHER.
I remember Margaret Thatcher brought in the poll tax.....it meant that each working member in the household would pay tax. Meaning one household could be paying, not council tax per house, but council tax per person living at the address. Thousands all over the country stopped paying council tax and took to the streets. The legislation was withdrawn.....the local councils did nothing.
You mean council tax?
All bills are sent to the all capitalised legal fiction, if you don't accept you are a dead entity but a living man and do not contract and are not the entity they are pursuing they have no power over you,also as you say the law is on our side,stand strong and move into the new world that is begging for us to join it❤❤❤❤
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Actually, it’s true. 25% of all council tax is put away into a pension pot for all council employees, teachers. police, etc
I'd like to put that money into my pension fund.
Doesn't surprise me. Their pension scheme is virtually a final salary pension.
I remember working for a council gym. Woeful pay but they put in nearly 18% pension on top of your 12%.
Yes we old'ys know, we remember. Traitor blair told all councils to deposit 100% of the revenue into the Icelandic bank.
Most councils in England did as the evil runt instructed.
Then by an accounting accident the Icelandic bank crashed and all of OUR money was completely gone forever.
Gone where?
Gone to feed the gravytrain robbers.
IT FUNDS WARS
Electricity and gas should be free especially to the disabled people😊😊
Good to see someone who is on benefits now paying even less to society. Don’t worry us hard working TAX payers will look after you!
You're having a go at the wrong people. The elites are all billionaires yet the want more. Also council tax funds wars
If bailiffs come, just ask for a Novation agreement. It's an agreement between you, the bailiffs and who ever is chasing you for the debt and needs your signature to agree with the bailiffs taking over the debt. If you have not signed, then bailiffs have no standing. And that came from a police officer.
Try it and let us know how you get on.
Done it, and he had no clue what it was? So told him, when you get 1, then come back? That was over 2 years ago.
Edinburgh City Council ate ruthless in their pursuit of Council Tax. They have been hammering me with incorrect and excessively high bills. The level of upset and distress caused by their unfair and uncooperative behaviour.
I agree the system of centralised societal infrastructure centres is crumbling largely because the system is wide open for corruption syphoning off funds.
However, we’re all probably better off finding ways to be self sufficient in small groups than the hassle of jumping out of the system while still in it.
Good luck everyone - find your way on the path that reveals itself. There is always a way that matches who we are ❤
Just subscribed to Tim's channel. Already watched four or five of them !
Thank you, Richard , for this one .
A gem !
Tim is encouraging you to commit fraud be very careful
whats it called ,/link please
Would you have a link to Tim's channel please ...?
Can’t find the channel. Do you have the link please?
So the council can still chase the debt, and if you are employed they can use an attachment of earnings order, and if you are on UC they can take 5% deductions.
I had an attachment of earnings, they rinsed me
@@chrisr525
How did the council get your bank details? You must have given it to them.
@@Rainbow.Rising Nah, it was thru my wage. Deducted at source
@@chrisr525An attachment earnings is proof that the money being taken is being robbed.
That process is unlawful however trying to convince your HR that this is the case is pointless as corporations work hand in hand with Government bodies.
Imagine having your wages stolen before they hit the bank and the monies in question are in dispute, where is your means of recourse? Aka it is blatant theft.
@@chrisr525 But you must have given the details of where you work to the council how else did they know where you work?
People must brake free of council bullies.
They will go Bust if everyone stands up and takes them on.
They are already bust.@@robh7671
Council made my life hell about council tax. The bailiffs were worse. This went on for 7 years. It nearly broke me. I simply could t afford it. Then most employers will do attachment to earnings as they believe it is a legal requirement for them to comply. It usually starts at 11% of your earnings but can go higher. They tried to take 22% of mine and I had to negotiate it down to 11% and couldn’t afford to live still. Also they say the bailiff fees are capped. That may be, but every time it gets bounced to another bailiff they add their charges and so on. I ended up paying almost as much in all these fees than I had owed. By the way this whole farce happened because I missed 2 payments. It ended up snowballing into a horror story and was threatened and bullied by successive bailiffs. I was scared to open my door. Scared of every letter that came.
Billy Idol sticking it to the system. Bravo
Yes, I wondered what happened to him after “rebel yell”…
I don't think Billy Idol would want to be associated with this charlatan.
This was a very interesting talk ...this guy is very informative and knows his rights ...as we all should!!
So.. he's completely reliant on "the system" , yet wants to destroy the system he completely relies on... D'oh
Quite! Imagine if we took his advice, there would be no funding to pay his benefits or maintain the 80% discount in council tax he already enjoys.
The bloke is an utter nobhead waster who doesn't know wtf he's talking about.
BBB😂😂😂😂
So if you are a homeowner and pass away after not paying council tax for 20 years @£2.5K a year there will be a bill for £50K against the estate.
In a way your tax is just put on hold until you drop dead - crazy, even in death their are taxes!
The estate's administrators should challenge the council tax demand, which is illegal and unlawful. Plain fraud. Taking a dead person's money which they have no legal entitlement to is cheating and robbery.
Thank you Tim and Richard for this interesting podcast. God bless you both and much ❤.
I stopped paying in 2920 at the start of the unlawful crackdown for the planademic. Rented a new property and previous tenants rubbish was in the bins. Filled. So i couldnt use them. Kept telling them. No joy. First week i had a demand in large red capitals! Then got furloughed and after two months went back to work. Then company went bust! ( All of which i ble the government for!). So i told them no contract no service. They process you in bulk without you being present. Which is unlawfull. You have the right to dispute any case brought to court. Benefits are purely for survival. And they cannot take any monies from them to pay a corporation. So again unlawfull. I stopped paying electruc at same time. My landlord was stealing my electric and i wanted it taken into account. Plus im not paying for any green lies. So stopped paying. Your governments are corrupt complicit and tresanous and need to be audited financialy for fraud. So carry on paying if you wish. But we are not. 😮
Are you a voice from the future ?
@@johnsmall3084lol I thought the same thing looking at the year he put in his comment 😂
When I wasn’t working last year I received £334 per month Universal Credit but council tax still went after me for full council tax, now I’ve found out I don’t even have a tax band but council have made one up
Have flying cars arrived yet, I'm very excited to be speaking to you.
I have my council tax bills going back to the mid 90’s. In 1998 they increased this tax by 25%, then a few years later by another 12%, on top of the yearly 5% increase. I kept my printed bills as proof in case we could mount a claim against them! Also they are bullies. In 2007, they called me into their offices saying they thought I had done something illegal, which I hadn’t. They read me my Miranda Rights as if they were the police, twice in fact, and told me my interviews were under caution! I was stressed out at the time looking after an elderly person who had had a heart attack, so I didn’t need this! I also have documentation on the interviews by the so called council tax police! On reflection I should have sued them, but had a lot to deal with at the time. After 6 months of intimidation they suddenly dropped the case, since they couldn’t find anything to prosecute, and never even apologised! This is the tyranny that we have to tolerate! I’m in my 70’s now but still feel the absolute injustice of it all. 😂 Kira
Have you sent a dsar ? You could have all the evidence for your claim x
This was all a blag. It's so that you can go around spreading the distress you went through to authenticate their bullshit authority.
Unfortunately, your name was pulled out of the hat or they thought you were an easy target but any private notes on their shitty system. Single mum Maisie, looking after her elderly mum Elle story. Sorry....
What council was it?
We all need to study the Law ! Fascinating !
Common Law, not Statutory Law. They will get you every time if you stand under their Stat Laws. Common Law stands ABOVE Stat Law. Common Law is for Living Men and Living Women. We do not come under jurisdiction of Stat Law, which was created for conducting trade and commerce during seafaring days of yore. But our 'rulers' who want to control us and milk us of all our money are using Stat Laws to do just that. Resist! Defy! Do Not Comply!
No law on this channel - just pseudolaw
@@user-xj2im1ep3o And you are a pseudo commenter spouting pseudo truth.
Bravo Tim!
Also - councils can and will add a charge onto your property ( if it’s purchased with or without a mortgage )
So when you sell your property you get a surprise bill from your Conveyencing agent for the unpaid council tax.
The hassle of people coming around knocking on the door trying to get in to take what you have is going to be a nightmare. You will always be making sure the doors and windows are locked. You will always be looking over your shoulder.
Having said that, I've never paid water in my life and only now and again do I get a letter from a different debt recovery agent that can't get past the German Shepherd to knock on the door, but that's about once every two to three years.
Got nowt anyway 😂😅😂
I'm not sure, I stopped paying Tax, I got bailiff, CCJ, fined, and damaged credit rating and in the end, they took the money directly from my wages, unlike Tim I'm now back working so they have the mechanisms to come after me
The key is to fight it in the right way. Rather than simply refusing to pay, you have to ask them to prove your lawful obligation to pay, before you'll hand over your money to them. Obviously to do this you need to understand what is acceptable proof, otherwise you'll just be fobbed off.
Your not getting your money back from the council. Your getting it from the bank under their obligation to return DD taken in error.Then the council and bank would have to fight in court.
@@googlecontrolled Right. And don't forget that the council has no legal right to tax anyone in the first place, let alone hold their own fake and illegal court sessions in order to steal our money. Councils get a substantial annual budget from the revenue the government collects, which is our taxpayers' money.
This is illegal and unlawful. You did not agree in writing that they - bank, employer AND the authority which ordered this - could do this with YOUR salary. You can still sue all of them for full return of the stolen money AND damages compensation for the trauma and distress they put you through. Lose the fear. Do not allow them to intimidate and bully you.
Well , it was hardly a surprise .
I don't recall "contracting" via the taxes I pay, to fund the lifestyle of people who live on benefits, yet for whom an already 80% discount in the council tax they are asked to pay is not good enough.
Just look up the Tim act of 2023, he's passing the law through his own one man Parliament. Sorry, you're just going to have to pay for him, after all he is a legal genius, just ask most of the people commenting here for confirmation of that.
@@paulhillman400 AM GLAD YOU SAID HES A LEGAL GENIUS YOU WANT TO READ UP ON THINGS MATE COS PEOPLE LIKE YOU THINK YOU KNOW EVERTHING WE ALL CAN SEE WHAT YOU ARE IVE DONE THE SAME AS HIM STOPPED AND I GOT ON THE PHONE AND READ THE RIOT ACT ON THEM THEY SOON CHANGED THERE TUNE AND ENDED UP SCRAPPED ALL MY NAME OF FUTURE BILLS NOW I JUST SAVE UP FOR THINGS WITH THE MONEY I DO NOT HAVE TO GIVE THEM ANYMORE THERE NO LAW YOU HAVE TO DO F ALL THEY WAS STUNNED ON THE PHONE THEY WENT VERY QUIET UNTILL THEY SAID THAT EVERYTHING WAS CANCELLED 🤔😁FUNNY THET ISNT IT 😉😉VERY HAPPY I READ A LISTEND TO THE TRUTH 😎
What u actually pay for, is mp’s homes, all utilities, council tax, broadband the lot. Not to mention the 2nd home, and their £300 just for turning up, their hefty food bill, and whatever the fuck else, these greedy parasites can squeeze out🙄
Iv not paid council tax for a year not paid gas and electricity for 3 years and not paid water for 2 years
Hi buddy That’s wkd I’ve cancelled all my direct debits now and will do the same
Get a electrician to change your smart meter for a normal meter
IMPORTANT WARNING FOR ANYONE THINKNG OF DOING THIS... 'black belt barrister' on here has done a video on this video, and others that say similar (without him specifically naming it) stating trying to get a direct debit refund classing them as an 'error' when they really arent is a criminal offence FRAUD .
and why would we believe a Freemasonic barrister who is actively involved in crimes against humanity?
@@SoupDragon63 You're so gullible.
That part about court summons for council tax is very interesting. When I first started work I shared the rent on a house with someone. He told me that the landlord paid the council tax, so I was bothered when we kept getting council tax demands. We never paid and then we got summons. Now I hear that they were not court summons at all, it was a council scam.
The second interesting thing is that where I live now, there is a crown court that is held in the council offices. I was called up for jury service at was a juror on a case. The judge told us that the council office court was started during lockdown, and they just kept running it. He also said that a lot of the traditional courthouses are being closed. I wonder if that has any effect. I don't think it should, the staff in the council office still cannot issue a summons even if the court is held in the council office building.
Interesting indeed. Just proves everything Tim said is true.
Fear is only fear what keeps us all caged in 😢 Fear that "they" are more powerful than us. When we realise that they are NOTHING without us, we are free.
Hey up ! looks like the 77th brigade have arrived fresh from Black belt barristers site .
@@sameoldrecord Stand down soldier
Well done Tim 😊
Debt is not real either…they turn you into a debtor!! ..😤
There the DEBTORS the people are the preferential-priority CREDITORS
The national DEBT is their debt to us...they use our credit,all the bills they send represents how much credit of yours they use.
They print cash through the central banks which is a iou's promise to pay.
There promising to pay you at sometime in the future
Remember they educated most people as DEBTORS in state schools...they don't educate people how to access and use there own credit.
So the national debt is there debt so where's the national credit of equal amount to zero it out.
ALL ACCRUAL ACCOUNTING,credits and debits
When there's a credit of £1000 there's always a debit-debt of equal amount to balance the account.
30 trillion national debt (their debt) so where's the national credit of 30 trillion to balance the books to ZERO
Council tax (ad valorem tax) accrual accounting
Gas electric water phone...accrual accounting
Court cases accrual accounting
National debt...accrual accounting
Credit cards...accrual accounting
Mortgages...accrual accounting
All DEBITS T CREDITS
Accrual accounting is the DIRECT DEBIT printed on everything they send
Anagram of DIRECT spells CREDIT
Great news about the financial pushback against the illegal billing from so-called authorities. Give us more of this Richard.
Tim previously pursued a successful career in banking, everyone said they were the cleanest toilets they'd ever seen.
What a wanker you are. Easy to say it behind a keyboard you coward. If you dared to meet me, you would be picking up your teeth.
@@timdavies581 Harsh words and violence never solved anything, Tim. Anyway, I was obviously joking. Nobody believes you have the skillset required to clean a toilet.
You are an idiot. I got my money back and so have many others. You are obviously a willing slave.
Thank you to Tim Davies and Richard for this valuable info.❤❤❤
Freedom is essential 💪
Thanks Tim and Richard..brilliant Tim…great questions Richard..
Wear a secret
Bodycam , thats one way of recording. Plus trial by jury means theyd have to admit fraud and corruption on their part. If everybody grew a pair and stood together then we could all bring the corruptors to their knees
Being on benefit he’s got nothing to lose. Those of us who work can expect a summons and penalties.
Exactly this bum is on to a winner cos he has nothing to lose
@@MrJohnnysevenExactly right, Tim is just a freeloader who we are all paying for, but likes to shoot his mouth off about being on the moral high ground. Richard Vobes shouldn't even be entertaining people like him.
@@paulhillman400he is showing people a way out of this fraud. When will you wake up?
The dude's a fkn waster that we all pay for and he doesn't even know wtf he's talking about.
The summons are illegal issued by the councils not by the courts .wake up 😂😂😂
Be warned, if you lie to use the indemnity clause you are committing an offence under s2 of the Fraud Act 2006, which carries up to ten years imprisonment.
So it's ok for the council to act fraudulently? The payment were made in error because I wasn't ever told that paying council tax is NOT an obligation.
It is an obligation; "All persons have a duty to pay their council tax upon receipt of a council tax bill." Read my other post!@@timdavies581
Eyes opened by this thankyou
You can go back to sleep now
This one’s a bit off topic, however. . .
Plasma energy technology. It’s the future, and possibly the past. . . Well worth looking into, especially if you’re worried about saving the planet from car pollution, etc. once fitted to a petrol car, it basically turns the machine into a moving ‘tree’-it pumps out pure oxygen. It can also be fitted to energy generators and such. This technology was tested on a factory generator in 2023 here in the UK. It is mind blowing stuff.
On topic, it appears one can stop paying council tax, provided one is prepared for a war. Not everyone has the endurance for war. Even so, it is important to stand up and rock the boat if a change is to be implemented. However, war is made up of many battles, one has to pick the right battles for them; it’s not possible to fight every battle in a war of this magnitude.
Richard, I am very impressed by you my friend. Well done 🫡
Massive hug 👍
Energy companies are a slightly different argument because we agree to pay the National Grid for our energy but we do NOT agree to pay the Broker who usurps authority over the grid and us to enjoy rates that they alone set without our consent
This is blackmail through monopoly of that market & all the energy companies do the same IE there is no True Competition to supply a fair rate for energy
Also the grid belongs to us and was built by us , so no private organisation has the right to usurp that ownership & make profit from it.
thank you everyone
Amazing information, simply stunning!
This is really a smart approach... Thanks for info.
Council tax is not a payment for services.
Truth
No it pays for council housing
@@phillipcarter8045 Fat pensions
Mr, Davis you made your bank do their job and provide " Customer Serivce".
Claimed £1146 back two days ago on the DD indemnity claim through my bank
Woman at the council office told me this will be the quickest way to get the money back, phones bank and it was sorted out in about 10 mins, money was back in my account
good information here and it would seem the info tim is speaking about has been gathered first hand and is therefore verifiable. a lot of what tim is saying i can vouch for because i have had very similar experiences and im in scotland.
People coming to your door that YOU have NO CONTRACT with are 3rd party INTERLOPERS.
The local authority act never received royal ascent so why are the courts sending people to prison for non payment of a tax that is unlawful?
Mutiny aboard the systems vessel we were berthed into ?
@@earlgrey691
Brilliant
Because people were too fearful of what 'authorities' told them and also didn't know how to stand up for their rights and fight back. But now we do. And we should start taking action.
@@istudios225go on then
They don't lock you up for non payment of CT, they get you on contempt of court despite it still being unlawful.
Office for over 17years …. It’s very quiet in the council today so push those money back buttons… great share
33 Degree Freemason Russell Brand should not be used as an example.
Trew dat
I’m absolutely stunned at the range of guests you find it’s amazing
@@sameoldrecord I’m so glad they do, it’s also really interesting that they seek him out. I love this channel.
@@mousenation3867Whoosh !!!!!!!.
I wiwsh we could stop paying for a police force that doesnt do anything for us.
I don’t understand council tax is for community services. So who empties his dustbin, repairs his roads, polices his area.
How can this person use electric for free? Without having a conscious. He’s used electric! But who has the time to investigate all this protocol. Bailiffs are very scary!
Brilliant! What a clever man, revealing Corporation Law in all its inglorious action as opposed to Common Law for which we have natural right and affinity. We're being bluffed.
Corporation Law or Maritime Law? Is it the same thing?
@@holeephuc007 Yes, they're both irrelevant to council tax.
I went on the website too and filled in the form after having a warning letter. Never heard from them since.
What are you referring to?
@@jack1d1XB sorry the tv license.
Brilliant, I think I'll do the same, is there any particular website that you recommend, or can I just choose one at random ?, the North Korean guild of carpet beetle trainers looks interesting, I'll do it on their website , and see if I never hear from them again. Thanks for the advice.
@@paulhillman400omg almost peed myself
If this was foolproof there would be solicitors cashing in on it like they were with PPI.
Solicitors work for the legal system. The legal system is based on corporations not living men/women. When you were registered at birth you were registered as a corporation. This is well known as your legal fiction (ALL CAPITALS NAME). This is not you. It is the way corporations like councils steal your money. Watch the documentary Strawman The Nature Of The Cage. It explains it all.
Thankyou Tim & Richard. Very helpful.
I'd love to know why I've been paying council tax on a rented flat that has had a deleted council tax band since I moved in 14 years ago, just recently found that out.
Deleted? What is that and where can I read more? As I understand it they can reband properties to lower or higher bands.
Claim D/Debit payments back...sounds like a good enough reason 😊
@organichuman I went to the government's official website and typed in my postal code to find out what my council tax band is, not only did I find that my address is listed several times but that it has no council tax band because it's been deleted. I'm being charged council tax by the council but there's no council tax band. My property is a council home.
In 2017 an FOI request by the Social Market Foundation think tank revealed that, between the 2010 and 2017 financial years, 692 cases had resulted in a jail order and 7,990 in a suspended committal order for non-payment of council tax.
This is just fear mongering . Nobody has ever been sent to prison for not paying council tax. Council tax is a civil matter NOT a criminal matter. The mainstream media lie about jail sentences for non payment.
There are newspaper reports from 2017 about Mark McKenzie being sent to prison by Manchester Magistrates' Court and Oliver Pinnock being imprisoned in Southend; both for not paying their council tax. Perhaps they weren't sovereigns after all.
@@timdavies581 I think that you're the liar, Tim. Incidentally, do you work or are you living on benefits?
@@manchegocheese997 I think you work for 77 Brigade judging by the amount of comments you have made on this video. You are scum.
@@timdavies581 If we base membership of the 77th brigade on the number of comments someone has made on this video you would be the most likely suspect. What were you in prison for?
The problem being is when you do a indemnity to what ever you have paid to the council tax yes you will get it back but then your back to square one,all the bank does is pay you the money you have paid then the bank claim it back from the council ,then you owe your full bill then they will take you to court add charges get a false liability order ,then bailiff charges ,then bailiffs knocking on your door taking your car this is bad information I'm afraid so I would suggest if anyone is thinking of doing this be prepared for all the hassle it is not worth it
So to summarise, he got refunded direct debit payments but then had them added to his debt and still was issued a liability order which deemed him liable to pay it back, what has he gained here actually?
This Mr Davis has a 5 month old youtube stating that he had been in front of the magistrate and the DWP are deducting his arrears seems just seems nothings adding up.
I'm sure that is what happens. The DWP will just deduct the money directly from benefits.
He's an attention seeking, gaslighting, workshy, freeloader. Enough said.
Effectively what is happening here is the refunds are coming from your own Cestui Que Vie trust fund. The trust is where all the money comes from, but normally other corporations just rob it from you.
Money doesn't exist, cash is just an IOU. Banks do not suffer loss when people don't pay their mortgage. It's all theatre!
Before acting along the lines of the comments made in this video I would recommend that you watch a well known Utuber who covers the law
The tv licence detectors were based on the light emitted...they had a tv receiver in the van and matched the light patterns....😂😂😂
Nearly right the old tv signal fed through a demodulator which produced the signal for the if amp, however it also produced a signal which radiated out of the aerial and contained the frequency of the tv station you were tuned to.
I'm interested if modern smart TV using terrestrial signal still emit these modulation products......anyone know???