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Because the voices are the subconscious thoughts and desires of these psychos. Lot to do with drugs, including alcohol. And some medication. Very rarely true illness of the brain.
So imagine how in Sci-Fi movies that show a robot that starts malfunctioning and it'll just start repeating the same word and glitching and sort of just acting off it's like that but it's your brain and there's no filters or boundaries for anything so the scariest, craziest, the most amazing and wild things are just everywhere always.. that's how I try to explain it is for people that suffer with that.. That's What It Seems to be similar to. Basically brain glitch
@@NomadinBrowardincorrect, there are people who hear voices and hallucinate who arent at all aggressive nor dangerous. there are however people who are, just like there are people who dont hear voices, some are dangerous and some arent.
People often don’t think of the families of those incarcerated when a family member commits a crime especially as heinous as this one it affects the family terribly…
@@realitycheck739 He has probably come to same conclusion that most of the Country has. They are not your friend and very few of them care about actually helping anyone out.
As a mental health nurse in Australia, it disgusts me at the lack of assistance the USA give patints. He sounds like he was having psychosis on the background of schizophrenia. Why on earth did the hospital let him go. So incredibly sad for everyone. So shameful that a country with all their money do not invest in mental health care.
As a nurse IN the USA, our healthcare system SUCKS. Mental health is not taken care of properly nor funded well at all. There are so many ill and hurting people here and literally no help
If someone tells you they're mentally ill and hearing voices, run. I've never heard of the "voices" telling them to feed the homeless or volunteer at the animal shelter. Think about it.
No!!! You're WRONG you don't run🙄 that is the dumbest thing you could tell ppl!!!! You call the right ppl or even 911 if you don't know who to call and they will direct that person towards the right places to seek help!!! If you run the other way well you may end up dead too PLEASE PEOPLE DO NOT TAKE HEED TO LISTEN IGNORANT COMMENT PLEASE SEEK HELP!!!!!!
@@MerindaSmith-e3sI admire what you're saying and yes, it would be right thing to do. However, I have seen people talking to themselves, acting erratic I called law enforcement to see if they could take them to get proper medical attention and all they ask them is "are you ok? Do you feel like harming yourself or others?" If they say no they wrap it up and send them on their way. I see more and more homeless people struggling with severe mental illness and because they don't have medical insurance or the even the ability to seek help they are left to wander the streets until they die all while risking other's lives in the process😢😢😢
Whats really sad about the hearing voices is after going thru that with my younger brother, they put him in the psych ward for evaluation and wanted to heavily medicate him and release him. No one did any head Xray or CT to see if there was a physical cause.. He later had brain surgery for a tumor found after seizures started. It did help and we got our brother back but he later passed at home probably after a seizure and hit his head.... how many may have a physical cause that isn't checked....
I was in lockdown for several weeks with a highly medicated inmate who was seeing demons playing tag with intestines. On so much lithium they couldn’t read. Had to make room for someone else in the rubber room. I think they just use it to get them medicated enough to take their meds when told. Because as soon as they asked if they could take a little less that’s what they were told.
There are several lessons to be learned here. Never rush into a relationship with someone you don't know well. Never engage in a relationship with someone who uses drugs and/or is having serious mental health problems, never ignore anyone who says they hear voices, and never discharge a patient who hears voices and has a substance abuse problem without proper treatment and close psychiatric supervision. Absolutely horrifying tragedy.
@@joanofarcxxiid like to agree with you 100% but you can't keep someone locked up in a nut house just because they hear voices and have a drug problem... Id say being in a nut house for a week, ur body would go through withdrawals and they would be treating that while there but that wouldn't be enough to keep them if they are showing signs of improvement and signs that they are holding steady, at what point would you release them??? Once they figure out why they can't leave they would most likely try to mimic the staff in which it would cause the staff to believe ur doing very well and ur steady and improved overall. What ur saying is basically use the nut house as a new jail to hold people indefinitely with out due process and no charges.. I think there needs to be a new system in place but idk what that would be or what it would look like...
Just goes to show that their should be a mandatory 72 hour hold for anyone who exhibits psychosis. A family member has to jump through hoops when they need some in hospital care or hold. This young man should have been held mandatory 72 hours. Laws need to change.
My mom would say she’s sorry & they’d release her. She "attacked"(the voices wanted her to take me somewhere safe with her)me a few times. Those were the only times she was held. She was alcoholic, schizophrenic & manic depressive. There isn’t an easy solution. People say lock them up, etc but it’s a complicated situation.
Known to cops as "ol crazy boy" and his own parents were demanding the hospital hold him and look at him further because there is something wrong with him... that hospital that discharged him needs to be held accountable. This poor woman died so violently.
Mental health issues are not taking seriously at all. Andrea Yates killed her 5 kids after saying she was hearing voices. Her insurance didn't covered her hospital stay for more than a week. It was the hospital and the insurance IMHO who were responsible for 5 children's lives being taken. Andrea Yates was nuts and the hospital knew it, and the health insurance did not care to let her stay for months if necessary. Money, money, money. If the hospital fought for Andrea Yates at the time, refusing to release her, 5 kids would be alive. I have no doubt about that. She needed medication and observations for long term.
The 911 call his dad made was just heart breaking! You could hear the reality unfolding for him as it went on, then his broken voice "There's something wrong with my son". So many victims here 💔
Well put. Several victims involved. And I may get hate for this, but people with Schizophrenia and serious mental disorders are not well and don't have control over their actions. Now I don't know all exact details of the case and if it was drug induced mental breakdown or clinical mental disorder. But, yes, so many victims here. Horrible and tragic
I agree . Prayers for mom and dad . They seem like descent people . I know his feathers got a little ruffled at first but it was a misunderstanding . I wouldn't have let them in my house either. But why 9 dogs
The grief in the dads voice 😭 When he said I told them to keep him but they said he was fine 😢 The doctor who sent him home should also be prosecuted if he was told he was hearing voices and sent him home without any medication or further care! Absolutely heartbreaking for that father
Something similar like this happened in my town in Mount carmel illinois. This women who I knew personally took her man to the hospital bc he told her he was suffering from some kind of mental breakdown or something. They went to hospital and he said he needed to be admitted. The doctor told him he was fine sent him home. That night he stabbed Jennifer to death.
They should sue the hospital the doctor is not specializing to this type of patient but they should keep him admission to hospital they are sick coz of brain trauma with on and off psychosis induced by substance use
I have mental illness~ this is abhorrent to me~ disgusting for a authority figure to show such disrespect~ yeah, it's horrific what he did to her but his brain is totally not wired right at all~ and he succumbed to those voices (which I am sure he was hearing)
Probably, but unfortunately they’re getting calls from a whole bunch of idiotic people that shouldn’t be calling 911 at all, because it’s for things that have NOTHING to do with an emergency…so blame them
I was surprised they hung up too, I thought they usually stay on the phone. But I think it's due to the non-emergency way he was speaking. He needs help then he doesn't then he needs an ambulance. He was also talking and not physically injured in any way.
Dispatcher totally ignored the warning signs. I know he didn’t kill her the same day but he was definitely in the middle of a manic episode and she ignored him.
I cannot fathom what it would be like to find a family member dead, much less like this.... and realizing it was your own child who did it. The father's call is heartbreaking
My niece is a paranoid schizophrenic and has “episodes”. She goes off her meds from time to time and the doctors always say “she’s fine”. Her most recent episode happened a couple of weeks ago. She barricaded herself in her room all day, got out at 1am, police chased her and she dislocated one of their shoulders, was combative with medics… Psychologist said she was fine and doc let her go. She ran away from the hospital once released. Filed a missing person report 24 hrs later. She was found 3 days later behind a dumpster downtown with nothing but a tank top on. Asked if she was “touched” and she said “no I just wanted to take my clothes off”… she’s 26 and we’ve been told we can’t drug her (force her to take her meds) and trying to keep her away from the public is kidnapping. Soooo she’s going to hurt someone to get the “right help” which is a damn shame.
Unfortunately that’s exactly what it will take. Medical professionals never did anything but “stabilize “ my son and back on the street he’d go. He was living in a house with my ex, his dad. I told the staff someone would get hurt. My son threw scalding water on his dad, he had to have skin grafts and be hospitalized. My son is still in county jail waiting for a mental health bed. It’s been over 3 years now.
@@beckycantrell5547 they have no beds for my niece either. We have been waiting for 6 years. She has a 1 year old now. My sister has always had custody of her now a judge is trying to force us to hand her over. We’ve been saying no since the beginning. Had court recently and they witnessed her laughing and having full conversations with herself. Now they’re leaning towards our side, but still want to reunify in the future. We’ll see what happens. I just don’t want her to hurt herself or someone else. Hope your son gets the help he needs sooner rather than later.
@Creole_Lady Exactly. To this day, I do not know why Ronald Reagan did this. In Camarillo, CA. I used to go in for AA meetings. I can't stress enough that there was no plan for where these people would go. All these years later and the consequences are worse than ever. Parents can't get help for children even if that child is adult age. There are no places to go. Yes, some places but if you look closely they hurt people already hurting. This problem has become a police problem with no resources. Breaks my heart.
He said he had been taking drugs and no sleep for two weeks, just the sleep deprivation alone would cause brain changes but with drugs as well it's worse.
I remember my grandma used to tell me -- never never ignore red flags , im sure we all have ignored them for many reasons, but people don't just wake up and go do horrible things.
If he was dealing with a psychotic episode, there likely would've been no red flags. He could've been 100% normal one day, and out of touch with reality the next.
Imagine being the first one finding the head in the tub without knowing what you were walking into. That vision would be in your head as long as you live.
This guy should have been taken to a psych ward first and questioned later. Between the doctors and law enforcement, this looks like to wrong place to live.
Mental health is off the charts these days. This is a sad story and I don’t know why doctors don’t listen to people when they say they are hearing voices.
I videoed my miner having hallucinations caused by ADHD meds he was on and his doctor told me to keep them on when I showed her. Completely unwilling to even look at it and admit it was awful med. He was pulled off the night before his appointment and we never went back to that doctor. My son is homeschooled no longer on those awful meds and thriving. He received counseling and learned skills to cope with ADHD symptoms. Got down to bottom of all diagnosis and they were very wrong. He is high functioning autistic with sensory disorder and does not have ADHD. The healthcare system, the public school system are complete jokes.
Exactly what I was thinking “mental health is off the charts these days.” I don’t know what’s going on.. is it something that’s in our food and or water that is poisoning our brains?? We didn’t have this many mentally ill people in the pat, right?
The parents wanted the hospital to keep him in to find out what is wrong with him and the liberals running the hospital didn't like being told what to do and released him. See? Same thing happening in the jails.
The anguish in his father's voice during the 911 was chilling. I'm so sorry for this woman. How horrifying. My coworker's son had a mental health crisis and the facility released him despite his parents pleading with them to keep him. He offed himself the same day, but at least he didn't take anyone out with him.
That's a sad outlook to have. You can't live a full life if you are scared to actually experience and live life. Just take reasonable precautions and you should be fine.
The saddest part of this is that schizoprhenia is easily diagnosed. It is also manageable.The hospital should have known right away that he needed to speak with psych. Perfect age for onset, and symptoms of psychosis . Shame on them for releasing him.
@@yenada That's not how that works. Substance abuse is more common for people with schizophrenia. Schizophrenia is not an after affect of drugs. He's clearly very mentally unwell and THAT is what caused his actions. Poor choices has nothing to do with it when you aren't truly aware of what you're doing.
@@yenada Im sure the drugs didn't help. I agree it is a terrible tragedy. I pray for their families and friends and loved ones and hope that they find a path to peace.
Taking drugs isn't a medical condition. People take drugs and they have to bear the consequences of their actions. If the patient isn't honest, the doctor has no justification to keep him. If he had said something about wanting to kill someone, they would have kept him.
@victordelorientis8763 eh you're pretty wrong, because drug induced psychosis is VERY REAL AND VERY DANGEROUS and a Doctor should be able to diagnose and treat it. Physicians LOVE TREATING all drug users like drug seekers during hospital visits and immediately dismiss any and all concerns.
@victordelorientis8763 Using drugs is largely connected to mental illnesses, conditions and trauma. The doctors dropped the ball on doing their jobs and getting him the help he needed. There was at least 2 justifications in keeping this guy or at least finding the cause and making sure he could get treatment. 1.) Not releasing someone a danger out into society without proper treatment and medication and 2.) Protect said patient from harming self. Clearly too many people knew he had a problem and dropped the ball. Drs and nurses were responsible for not getting to the root cause which could also be a brain tumor at times. The hospital Drs should be fully liable.
911 operator who was speaking to the dad was outstanding. No pointless questions and she was so professional. This could have been avoided had that doctor kept him in. I don’t know how these poor parents will get over this . That poor woman must have been terrified when he attacked her. Terrible.
Another case of the state failing mental illness patients.This man probably promise this poor girl the world and instead she found her own demise Clearly she didn't know who she got married to. Mental illness combined with drugs it's a tragedy waiting to happen.This could've been prevented. So sorry for the woman who lost her life so young.
She probably married him to get papers to stay in the US. Many people that come here from other places, try to marry to get their papers. Poor girl and poor families that have to deal with this mess. disclamer: But IDK, I wasn't there, just my opinion.
So sad. He tried so hard to get help and the hospital turned him onto the street. Now police are grilling him while he's in active psychosis. Mental health care needs a total overhaul. People asking for help need to be helped.
America's entire health, insurance & FDA medication approval process is huge scam & beyond disgraceful. Law enforcement & DEA has only added to the above problems.
He was having the first break from schizophrenia. I saw many young people in psych hospitals after a disastrous incident. They had been having mild symptoms then a horrific incident of violence or self harm. This is so sad.
@@empressannjam1 It's nowhere near that simple. When my ex had his first psychotic break, I tried everything. I even gave him multiple Xanax and he would not go to sleep. I had him put in the hospital multiple times. After a couple months of trying to get him under control, I had to send him back to his family. It was too risky having him around my little niece and family. He would have hurt himself, or one of us. You can't just tell them the voices aren't real and it stops...
@@empressannjam1have you ever tried to tell someone hearing voices that it isn't real? IF they hear you, it's very real to them and are often unconsolable. Their perception of reality is so different than yours at them times that meds is one of the few things that brings calm to the situation. Also the strength in a person suffering from an episode is not to be under estimated!
If he told the hospital staff he was hearing voices, they should have kept him. It's clear how out of it he is when he's claiming that he's been on meth for 2 weeks yet tested negative. This is just an absolutely horrific and heartbreaking situation. Anggys poor mother and family 💔
Hearing voices is not a reason for a 72 hour hold under the law. Have to be able to prove harm. Lots of people on the streets are hearing voices, sadly. We have no mechanisms to help them; no funding.
So the dad told the doctors that they had to keep him because he was hearing voices etc... and the doctors just cleared him ? The dad, so the person that knows best his son, clearly said there's something wrong with him, and the doctors just say "Hey, seems pretty normal to me!" and the next day the guy kill his wife. Freaking sue those fake doctors edit: Those cops are really bad at taking informations, never seen the cop just said "okay, okay" and when he goes tell what he knows, he just says well the girl name is anggy, she worked at thingplace and sergeant thing is coming, that's it like really ?
@TawnyC_ there's very little mental health services. Most deeply afflicted that would have been institutionalised are now simply thrown in prison/jail. Which only amplifies the issue
But did he? Without the son's medical records, we only have the father's word. He may have thought he mentioned it, but didn't. He may have told a nurse, not a doctor. Then, that nurse went into the next room, and had to help hold down a violent patient, and forgot to pass on that information to the doctor. The father may not have been allowed in his adult son's room, or not even gone to the hospital with him, and now he knows his son is in trouble, and he is saying that to alleviate his responsibility. One thing I have learned in my 28 yrs as an RN: people lie. Another thing I have noticed, is everyone is willing to put all of the blame on the hospital who may or may not have been aware of him hearing voices, but none on his parents who would have been 100% aware of it, but did nothing to protect their daughter in law by asking her to stay with them in their home. If they were so convinced that their son were a threat, why let her stay alone with him? Why not bring him immediately to another hospital? Why not sit up all night with him until he could be evaluated in the morning by emergency psych services? There were many things the parents could have also done to prevent this. Unless, of course, you are willing to admit that no one could have foreseen this. That would then let the hospital off the hook for any responsibility, too. Just some things to think about while quarterbacking from the armchair.
The detectives clearly don't understand he's most likely still in a schizophrenic state or just recovering from one which includes memory loss and confusion.
@karenaware6569 that is understandable, but once they (should have) noticed significant signs, they should've at least gotten him an attorney to be present in the interrogation? Yes, an immediate interrogation would be absolutely necessary, but when they had even they slightest inclination, he had diminished capacity (especially with the severity of his horrific crime) they should've known better.
There is no place to keep crazy people since the government closed all the mental facilities years ago as they were constantly being sued and accused of mistreating patients. So now they are just sent back home for the public to deal with. Each state should be required to have a Mental Institution for them.
Years ago, my family member was dating a nice girl, she either was a Dr., or studying to be, I don't remember. I told her in no uncertain terms about his problems, there was no fixing him, and if she didn't get away immediately she would spend the rest of her life wishing she had. I felt she was owed a heads-up. He's gone on to wreak havoc on anyone and everyone in his orbit. Glad I could save one, sorry it was necessary. This guy's parents should have warned her.
We use to have mental institutions they could go to that would have been more equip and knowledgeable to deal with this crisis were in. This is absolutely tragic that poor girl.
@@MarieJS535 Instead of fixing the system they closed it down. Hence some now live on the street. No where to go no help. The drug crisis made it worse.
Its a scientific fact that a lot of males in their 20's just suffer from schizophrenia out of nowhere, couple that with drugs and we have ourselves a killer and the prison system are filled with them. I see a lot of folks blaming the hospitals but it's there policy to stabilize and release. You need a fortune teller to see the future. I just feel for the families so much.
Yep, I also find it odd the amount of people that think the hospital could/should have held him because the family asked them to. If he was coherent enough to answer any questions the doctors asked then their hands are tied.
@@wln8888 Look it up, researching it yourself isn't hard. There's plenty of information from medical studies and medical facilities like the Mayo Clinic on Schizophrenia and when it usually develops in men, the peak being 21-25. It may seem like it's out of no where, and there's no conclusive reason as to why it happens. Some suspect it has to do with estrogen levels, or also a link between DNA modifications and early brain development.
@ the “a lot” part is inaccurate because it’s actually a small percentage but everything else checks out. Males that have undiagnosed schizophrenia tend to start showing signs in their late teens early 20s. Same thing with females only it’s typically late 20s early 30s.
Unfortunately it is also common that Emergency room doctors release them when they really need to be sent to a mental hospital and forcibly evaluated and treated in a safe lockdown facility.
What's the likelihood he had insurance that covers psych stuff? Many don't or put big restrictions on level and length of care. You wouldn't believe how much insurance controls if and what you get treated for. Hospitals boot you out if you're under insured or no insurance at all.
@@gingw7333if the hospital knows someone is a danger to themselves or someone else it's a 3 day hold insurance or not. That's the law in most states..but who knows if this area even had a psyche ward close by ..most hospitals don't even have them anymore. It's definitely a huge problem. Dr s are mandatory reporters . So evidently he didn't threaten to hurt himself or anyone else at the hospital or they would've had to hold him up to 72 hr somewhere.
I'm sorry to say it but the American healthcare system is inhumane and dysfunctional. Health should not be run on the business model. Re open state mental health facilities.
She married into that dodgy family and didn't know what she was getting into. They were having police called on them all the time. No wonder the son was disturbed, not to mention the drugs. He was taking every drug under the sun, BUT the meth. Poor girl, 21 years old, ambitious, sweet, everything to live for. Something was wrong with Jared and his family and she knew it as soon as the ink dried on their marriage license. Her friends saw her change overnight. He had no right to take her life. Her family back home will be wishing she had never left. I hope her mother survived the cancer but what an awful burden to carry forever.
Cuz the cop mentioned he was there ONE TIME about a car...that's the cops being called all the time and they're dodgy? How entitled and judgmental....yuck. 🙄🤬🤮
Naw, I don't think the dad was such a bad guy. Just looked to me like he was concerned about harm coming to his dogs and had seen enough destruction already. The officer just misunderstood which house they needed to go into which made him defensive. Simple misunderstanding😑
Same. Dad did everything he could, including giving him a safe place to live, trying his best to have his monster of a son institutionalized and kept him in the house while he called the police. The poor man just needed a minute. I don't blame him.
That segment of the video really, really got on my nerves. I guess because I’ve worked with people like him before who over react and want to turn everything into a problem when it’s not necessary. There was no need for his attitude. The police were just following protocol as they always do, and they even asked for his persmission. It wasn’t like they were going to say “Well, FU, we’re going into your house anyway.” Then, I would understand the dad being all defensive. Even after both sides acknowledged it was a misunderstanding and the police said they’ll only look behind the house, the dad was still upset and trying to make an issue out of it… Oh my gawd, dude, calm down. We’ve already settled that it was a simple misunderstanding, so let’s move on and get the job done shyt!!! Hate dealing with people who get upset so easily and can’t forgive you for small mistakes.
Not to sound old fashioned but if you are getting married to live in a shed on your in-laws property perhaps your lives arent really at a stable enough point to consider marriage.
This is our health care system, I man begging for help and he’s told that he’s fine and is sent home. Whatever doctor saw him should lose his license and spend time in jail, the hospital should pay her family millions for a doctor not caring a man needed help.
Should have kept him for further evaluation, 😟 another failure with the system,😤 so extremely disheartening to hear this. 💔 Mental illness is real. His dad/ family, etc, knew something was terribly wrong with the dude.😕
Exactly what the sheriff was saying at a recent press conference after one his deputies was killed by a mentally unstable individual driving around with a ton of weapons. That person's family also knew the guy was sick and no one was doing anything to help. The heartbroken sheriff (bless him) said pretty much how we all feel - family members, people in the know, should be taking steps to make sure they're getting treated. Not unleashing them to the world.
@@mariarohmer2374 Lets just hope that you are never in that situation. If Doctors won't help, it leaves family members on their own trying to find a solution.
@@debbiemaxwell8026 If you want to get into a larger discussion about how this country fails the serious needs of too many citizens it's going to take more room than a comments section.
It seems that he used drugs and then killed his wife. A drug head who destroyed his wife's life and his own life!. Drugs are vileness so avoid them or face the consequences.
On what basis?? You can't keep people without any justifications. If the patient doesn't tell the doctors that he wants to harm himself or harm others, there is no basis to keep him. He shouldn't have taken drugs, nobody forced him to take drugs. Actually, the law says to not take drugs!!
@ the insurance regarding mental health needs reform. The psychiatrist just does enough, sends patient home despite family members ( who know patient best) have great concerns regarding safety of patient and others, ( begging the doctors to keep their loved one). In this case the father begged for the psych hospital to keep his son. Within days his son murdered the wife. It’s a broken system.
@@victordelorientis8763 It doesn't matter if he "wants" to harm himself or others. It matters if he's a danger to himself or others. And the way he has acting and him hearing voices, that's definitely a danger. Involuntary hospitalization is common in cases like that, doctor just needed to fill out a clinical certificate and mental health petition.
I would be stunned if this young man saw a psychiatrist while in the hospital. They likely treated him for a drug overdose or drug reaction. Many small hospitals have no psychiatrist on staff.
If he had a decent lawyer they would have had everything from that interview thrown out. The police knew that he was mentally unstable, the lead officer stated it on tape prior to the interview. You can't consent if you are under the influence or in the midst of a psychotic episode. The prosecution got lucky with him obviously having a crap lawyer who had him take the first deal that they offered.
Makeup your mind...everyone is blaming everyone but the man who murdered his wife. The doctors whose hands are tied the wife etc. He should be out??? WTF. No. He took a life of someone. You want him next door to you? Didnt think so. Some people cant be fixed.
One of these days we are gonna start taking mental health issues seriously i blame that hospital for releasing him while he was actively "hearing voices"
Because often paranoia or embarrassment leads people to not want to involve family in mental health matters. You heard the dad - he begged the hospital to keep him, they failed him letting him home
There's a dozen possibilities here. Maybe their vehicle broke down. Maybe he wouldn't let them. Maybe they were afraid of being in a locked vehicle with him. Maybe they were sick with the flu. Obviously there was some sort of reason. It's not like the RUclips viewers are going to know any more than you do.
@@us4damons there are more that you don’t hear. With 340+ million Americans there are probably enough calls in one year that it would take a lifetime for someone to listen to all of them.
That stood out to me too! They were so empathetic and gentle with him. they just respectfully asked him questions without it sounding like they were badgering the crap out of him. Their kindness really stood out.
I really feel for the wife’s parents and family and friends 😢♥️ sending love and prayers ✝️🙏and condolences to them ♥️ on this very difficult time in 2023❤♥️♥️
There was no father and Im guessing she was here illegally. She came to the US to work so she could finance her mother's cancer treatment back in her home country. If the cancer didnt kill her, her daughter's murder will. Angie wanted that green card in a bad so she could help her family. How very sad. Rest in peace dear Angel.
@@maramirkin3325 being up for a week because of drugs will make you hear and see things. Being up for a week without drugs will make you pretty messed up. I can’t even imagine what happens with though I have had a few people explain their experiences to me. All I could ask was why would you willingly do that to yourself? It never sounded fun in the least.
These detectives were one of the worst I’ve ever seen at interrogations. They could have gotten much more useful information had they gone about it properly. He must have had a crappy lawyer also. I’d be interested in watching the trial.
And to clarify. Obviously he’s guilty and I’m not siding with the man and his actions at all. Just commenting on the terribly done interview. They have zero skills and got lucky to get the little information they did.
The idea that searching someone's house to investigate a murder is a threat or threatening is ridiculous just as it's ridiculous to even think that someone's going to shoot your dogs just because they want to search your property.
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Everything you told about Jared is free online bc it's public record. Why would you pay for this information when it's public record. 🤔 This is what's wrong with someone many people in this world....Too many people like yourself try to make a dime off others' ignorance versus telling others the truth of how to find this FREE information and FREE public records shared all over the web.
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@@upserlivinthedream My point exactly! Law & Crime has lost credibility as has our justice system. (who’s running it?)
Well these look like a bunch of intelligent cops, 🤣
Why don't the voices ever just say buy your wife some flowers and leave it at that?
Because the voices are the subconscious thoughts and desires of these psychos. Lot to do with drugs, including alcohol. And some medication.
Very rarely true illness of the brain.
So imagine how in Sci-Fi movies that show a robot that starts malfunctioning and it'll just start repeating the same word and glitching and sort of just acting off it's like that but it's your brain and there's no filters or boundaries for anything so the scariest, craziest, the most amazing and wild things are just everywhere always.. that's how I try to explain it is for people that suffer with that.. That's What It Seems to be similar to. Basically brain glitch
Because animals do not offer flowers, drugs disinhibit humans, putting them in their animal state, without moral and social values.
because they are demons!
@@NomadinBrowardincorrect, there are people who hear voices and hallucinate who arent at all aggressive nor dangerous.
there are however people who are, just like there are people who dont hear voices, some are dangerous and some arent.
That call from the Dad almost had me crying. It’s a terrible and sad situation for both families.
Yes, I agree with you!
People often don’t think of the families of those incarcerated when a family member commits a crime especially as heinous as this one it affects the family terribly…
I agree but when the cops show up he's almost hostile with them.
Absolutely heartbreaking.
@@realitycheck739 He has probably come to same conclusion that most of the Country has. They are not your friend and very few of them care about actually helping anyone out.
"Where is ole redhead?" This isn't this officer's first rodeo with Jared Dicus.
14:28 "Is it old crazy boii?" I mean they clearly knew he was messed up
I just hope other red haired people don’t think this was an attack on them.
Red haired people are wild… more often than not..& my youngest is a red head with freckles and she’s a wyld child that takes no prisoners
The police had been there several times actually after they were married for DV
@@Platinumpuppy what? you scared that they attack back huh?
As a mental health nurse in Australia, it disgusts me at the lack of assistance the USA give patints. He sounds like he was having psychosis on the background of schizophrenia. Why on earth did the hospital let him go. So incredibly sad for everyone. So shameful that a country with all their money do not invest in mental health care.
Can't force treatment if the patient refuses it. His problem was drugs not mental illness.
What money USA is beyond poor right now
What money USA is poor right now
@@AshleyTitus-o2y because our money goes to other countries
As a nurse IN the USA, our healthcare system SUCKS. Mental health is not taken care of properly nor funded well at all. There are so many ill and hurting people here and literally no help
If someone tells you they're mentally ill and hearing voices, run. I've never heard of the "voices" telling them to feed the homeless or volunteer at the animal shelter. Think about it.
True
Yeah, the voices are never nice ones.
No!!! You're WRONG you don't run🙄 that is the dumbest thing you could tell ppl!!!! You call the right ppl or even 911 if you don't know who to call and they will direct that person towards the right places to seek help!!! If you run the other way well you may end up dead too PLEASE PEOPLE DO NOT TAKE HEED TO LISTEN IGNORANT COMMENT PLEASE SEEK HELP!!!!!!
@@MerindaSmith-e3s…did you take your medication today?
@@MerindaSmith-e3sI admire what you're saying and yes, it would be right thing to do. However, I have seen people talking to themselves, acting erratic I called law enforcement to see if they could take them to get proper medical attention and all they ask them is "are you ok? Do you feel like harming yourself or others?" If they say no they wrap it up and send them on their way. I see more and more homeless people struggling with severe mental illness and because they don't have medical insurance or the even the ability to seek help they are left to wander the streets until they die all while risking other's lives in the process😢😢😢
Awful. That poor, poor girl. May she rest in peace, and her family find peace, as well.
Life tip. Once someone tells you they're hearing voices, prepare for the worst!
To bad the doctor didn't believe this to be true...
Whats really sad about the hearing voices is after going thru that with my younger brother, they put him in the psych ward for evaluation and wanted to heavily medicate him and release him. No one did any head Xray or CT to see if there was a physical cause.. He later had brain surgery for a tumor found after seizures started. It did help and we got our brother back but he later passed at home probably after a seizure and hit his head.... how many may have a physical cause that isn't checked....
I was in lockdown for several weeks with a highly medicated inmate who was seeing demons playing tag with intestines. On so much lithium they couldn’t read. Had to make room for someone else in the rubber room. I think they just use it to get them medicated enough to take their meds when told. Because as soon as they asked if they could take a little less that’s what they were told.
Worst*
@@intune6877 I thought so. Thanks
The biggest tragedy here is that this woman's horrific death could have easily been prevented.
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no it couldnt. People unfortunately cant be held "in case" they commit a crime..
There are several lessons to be learned here. Never rush into a relationship with someone you don't know well. Never engage in a relationship with someone who uses drugs and/or is having serious mental health problems, never ignore anyone who says they hear voices, and never discharge a patient who hears voices and has a substance abuse problem without proper treatment and close psychiatric supervision. Absolutely horrifying tragedy.
@@mollyhorse correct.
@@joanofarcxxiid like to agree with you 100% but you can't keep someone locked up in a nut house just because they hear voices and have a drug problem... Id say being in a nut house for a week, ur body would go through withdrawals and they would be treating that while there but that wouldn't be enough to keep them if they are showing signs of improvement and signs that they are holding steady, at what point would you release them??? Once they figure out why they can't leave they would most likely try to mimic the staff in which it would cause the staff to believe ur doing very well and ur steady and improved overall.
What ur saying is basically use the nut house as a new jail to hold people indefinitely with out due process and no charges..
I think there needs to be a new system in place but idk what that would be or what it would look like...
When a 21 year old asks for help, please help them. Trust me, he didn't want that to happen.
Not half as much as his victim.
He’s a homicidal maniac
@@ChrisAndCatsis it a competition?
@@MarkNewmanApus Right, like...? Obviously the victim didn't wanna die.... Don't know why people always tryna talk smart
Just goes to show that their should be a mandatory 72 hour hold for anyone who exhibits psychosis. A family member has to jump through hoops when they need some in hospital care or hold. This young man should have been held mandatory 72 hours. Laws need to change.
@Pippypapoose... No thanks to ex-president Reagan ...
@@Pippypapoose227 I agree.
My mom would say she’s sorry & they’d release her. She "attacked"(the voices wanted her to take me somewhere safe with her)me a few times. Those were the only times she was held. She was alcoholic, schizophrenic & manic depressive. There isn’t an easy solution. People say lock them up, etc but it’s a complicated situation.
Known to cops as "ol crazy boy" and his own parents were demanding the hospital hold him and look at him further because there is something wrong with him... that hospital that discharged him needs to be held accountable. This poor woman died so violently.
Omg! I did not know this part!
That doctor who release Gerad should go to jail for life as the killer as well
Mental health issues are not taking seriously at all. Andrea Yates killed her 5 kids after saying she was hearing voices. Her insurance didn't covered her hospital stay for more than a week. It was the hospital and the insurance IMHO who were responsible for 5 children's lives being taken. Andrea Yates was nuts and the hospital knew it, and the health insurance did not care to let her stay for months if necessary. Money, money, money. If the hospital fought for Andrea Yates at the time, refusing to release her, 5 kids would be alive. I have no doubt about that. She needed medication and observations for long term.
He’s the ginger stereotype, no soul.
They can't hold him against his will.
The 911 call his dad made was just heart breaking! You could hear the reality unfolding for him as it went on, then his broken voice "There's something wrong with my son". So many victims here 💔
Yes, heartbreaking.
Well put. Several victims involved. And I may get hate for this, but people with Schizophrenia and serious mental disorders are not well and don't have control over their actions. Now I don't know all exact details of the case and if it was drug induced mental breakdown or clinical mental disorder. But, yes, so many victims here. Horrible and tragic
Yeah, I was tearing up.
Such a tragedy. Both families were broken forever
@drs2994 I would have told his wife that he was sick and not to marry him period.
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The cops already knew he wasn't stable. The hospital needs to be held accountable...
@@MarlenaCarrillo the parents said that they were worried but still left their daughter in law alone in a shack with him?
I love your name..it's pretty
@@genericamerican7574 Wow that is so sad. I am sure they are regretting and suffering for that decision. Tragic
@@carolannpacificadam1944 Thank you, That is very nice of you.
@@MarlenaCarrillo true.☃️
His poor dad sounded so traumatized. I hope he's in therapy. Mom too. Awful
I agree . Prayers for mom and dad . They seem like descent people . I know his feathers got a little ruffled at first but it was a misunderstanding . I wouldn't have let them in my house either. But why 9 dogs
He didn't sound so traumatized when the cops wanted to check his house for possible evidence
@@apache19541he didn't want them getting the dogs upset and shoot them. Didn't you watch it?
Dad sounded like he had a little bad attitude himself.
@@apache19541Exactly 💯💯💯
The grief in the dads voice 😭 When he said I told them to keep him but they said he was fine 😢 The doctor who sent him home should also be prosecuted if he was told he was hearing voices and sent him home without any medication or further care! Absolutely heartbreaking for that father
The doctor should have his licence revoked permanently.
The doctors hands are tied. Most of these states don’t have anything to help doctors hold them past 72 hours, if at all.
honestly i would feel extremely unsafe & uncomfortable trying to interview him. his vibe is very unsettling
I dont think it's pure evil. this is mental illness. he looks messed in the head vs evil like Manson or Gacy.
I was thinking the same
@ when he first looks over at the one detective sitting on the side closer to the door, it made my skin crawl. idk he is like in a weird trance 😵💫
@triiileigh Well that's partially what psychosis is. He could think he's in a yellow submarine for all we know.
@@Cbd_7ohm i am aware of it.. but i wasn’t trying to be quick to say it’s psychosis bc idk forsure
Shame on the doctor that said he was "fine" and released him
Something similar like this happened in my town in Mount carmel illinois. This women who I knew personally took her man to the hospital bc he told her he was suffering from some kind of mental breakdown or something. They went to hospital and he said he needed to be admitted. The doctor told him he was fine sent him home. That night he stabbed Jennifer to death.
@@ScarlettOHara0087What did the doctor have to say then?
@@ScarlettOHara0087😲😧
It’s a regular occurrence, the public would be horrified to learn the truth about what’s going on there.. think Satanist 🩸
They should sue the hospital the doctor is not specializing to this type of patient but they should keep him admission to hospital they are sick coz of brain trauma with on and off psychosis induced by substance use
When the first thing the detective asks is “was it ol’ crazy boy?” Sounds like a lot of people knew that guy was unstable.
BEFORE meth apparently
I thought said, “that red head boy”
@@firefeethok_tui2355 yes they called him that 'red-headed boy'... not 'ol' crazy boy'
14:56 - He said "ol red headed boy"....
I have mental illness~ this is abhorrent to me~ disgusting for a authority figure to show such disrespect~ yeah, it's horrific what he did to her but his brain is totally not wired right at all~ and he succumbed to those voices (which I am sure he was hearing)
The first time, he called 911... the dispatcher should have stayed on the phone with him until EMS arrived.
Probably, but unfortunately they’re getting calls from a whole bunch of idiotic people that shouldn’t be calling 911 at all, because it’s for things that have NOTHING to do with an emergency…so blame them
I was surprised they hung up too, I thought they usually stay on the phone. But I think it's due to the non-emergency way he was speaking. He needs help then he doesn't then he needs an ambulance. He was also talking and not physically injured in any way.
I thought so too.
That wasn't the same day. He killed her after he called 911 and went to the hospital. It is absolutely not that dispatcher's fault.
Dispatcher totally ignored the warning signs. I know he didn’t kill her the same day but he was definitely in the middle of a manic episode and she ignored him.
I cannot fathom what it would be like to find a family member dead, much less like this.... and realizing it was your own child who did it. The father's call is heartbreaking
I feel so bad for this girl's family, esp her mom. So much pain.
@@yamnjam I agree
Agree 💯
The dad calling gave me chills they cared 😢❤
Same. Made me tear up to hear the helplessness in his voice.
They sure did.... 😭 aa
@@kaerbearI agree with what your saying but he was pretty aggressive to the cops wanting enter his home. Regardless of the dog situation.
I cried listening to the father!😢
I had pain in my chest from him desperately begging for help. I wish him and his relatives much strength going through this madness.
My niece is a paranoid schizophrenic and has “episodes”. She goes off her meds from time to time and the doctors always say “she’s fine”. Her most recent episode happened a couple of weeks ago. She barricaded herself in her room all day, got out at 1am, police chased her and she dislocated one of their shoulders, was combative with medics… Psychologist said she was fine and doc let her go. She ran away from the hospital once released. Filed a missing person report 24 hrs later. She was found 3 days later behind a dumpster downtown with nothing but a tank top on. Asked if she was “touched” and she said “no I just wanted to take my clothes off”… she’s 26 and we’ve been told we can’t drug her (force her to take her meds) and trying to keep her away from the public is kidnapping. Soooo she’s going to hurt someone to get the “right help” which is a damn shame.
Unfortunately that’s exactly what it will take. Medical professionals never did anything but “stabilize “ my son and back on the street he’d go. He was living in a house with my ex, his dad. I told the staff someone would get hurt. My son threw scalding water on his dad, he had to have skin grafts and be hospitalized. My son is still in county jail waiting for a mental health bed. It’s been over 3 years now.
Praying for both of you strong ladies… sending love and blessings from TX 🫶🏽🙏🏽
@@beckycantrell5547 they have no beds for my niece either. We have been waiting for 6 years. She has a 1 year old now. My sister has always had custody of her now a judge is trying to force us to hand her over. We’ve been saying no since the beginning. Had court recently and they witnessed her laughing and having full conversations with herself. Now they’re leaning towards our side, but still want to reunify in the future. We’ll see what happens. I just don’t want her to hurt herself or someone else. Hope your son gets the help he needs sooner rather than later.
@@angelarios2931 The love and blessings are greatly appreciated. Thank you so much.
@ of course ma’am! You enjoy your Sunday 🫶🏽
Open up the state hospitals again. They never should've been closed!
@@Creole_Lady That would cost billions of dollars- Americans will never pay for that. I do agree with you though!
You spelt wrong Asylums for the mentally insane!
@yeseniah7373 , I didn’t misspell anything. I typed it exactly the way I meant it.
@Creole_Lady
Exactly.
To this day, I do not know why Ronald Reagan did this.
In Camarillo, CA. I used to go in for AA meetings.
I can't stress enough that there was no plan for where these people would go.
All these years later and the consequences are worse than ever.
Parents can't get help for children even if that child is adult age.
There are no places to go. Yes, some places but if you look closely they hurt people already hurting.
This problem has become a police problem with no resources.
Breaks my heart.
@@missmissy_90looked too much like money. To clean up the abuse it was gonna cost. Prisons were much cheaper.
He said he had been taking drugs and no sleep for two weeks, just the sleep deprivation alone would cause brain changes but with drugs as well it's worse.
I remember my grandma used to tell me -- never never ignore red flags , im sure we all have ignored them for many reasons, but people don't just wake up and go do horrible things.
they said once she got married she was unhappy, probably it was THEN she REALLY got to know him
They didn’t ignore the red flags. They called and called and begged for help.
If he was dealing with a psychotic episode, there likely would've been no red flags. He could've been 100% normal one day, and out of touch with reality the next.
Tragic for that woman and family.. Those poor officers and EMS.
When they said her head was in the bathtub, NO ONE is ready for that.
Imagine being the first one finding the head in the tub without knowing what you were walking into. That vision would be in your head as long as you live.
That woman was his wife.
This guy should have been taken to a psych ward first and questioned later. Between the doctors and law enforcement, this looks like to wrong place to live.
They shut down those
English?
It’s Texas…so, yes. And yes, I’m unfortunately from Texas.
He's a meth head. He's not paychotic
Exactly what I came here to say. It’s Texas 💁🏻♀️
Cop calls him “ole crazy boy”. You know there’s history when they give you a nickname.
I heard ole redhead boy
Apparently, this is the first time this detective has interviewed anyone. She's truly horrible.
how do you know that? prove it cooker
The man is worse…. I cringed through the whole interrogation because of both of them, though.
Makes sense. The entire time I'm screaming at my phone!
@@aaainaaaa I didn't say that I have proof. Do you know what the word apparently means? I won't call you names. I'm not in fifth grade.
Mental health is off the charts these days. This is a sad story and I don’t know why doctors don’t listen to people when they say they are hearing voices.
I videoed my miner having hallucinations caused by ADHD meds he was on and his doctor told me to keep them on when I showed her. Completely unwilling to even look at it and admit it was awful med. He was pulled off the night before his appointment and we never went back to that doctor. My son is homeschooled no longer on those awful meds and thriving. He received counseling and learned skills to cope with ADHD symptoms. Got down to bottom of all diagnosis and they were very wrong. He is high functioning autistic with sensory disorder and does not have ADHD. The healthcare system, the public school system are complete jokes.
Exactly what I was thinking “mental health is off the charts these days.” I don’t know what’s going on.. is it something that’s in our food and or water that is poisoning our brains?? We didn’t have this many mentally ill people in the pat, right?
@TigerTummy23 it's the information age this stuff has always happened you just now know about it
We admit those people.
Because there is no longer any place to send them except back home since all the mental institutions were forced to close years ago.
40 years isn’t enough. And I hope her family shows up to every one of those parole hearings. Absolutely heinous!!!
What a beautiful lady. This is just horrific 😞
That poor, sweet girl. He destroyed her from the wedding day.
@20:35 the family didnt know anything about their daughter in law other than her first name and wher she worked. That sad too
Maybe they knew she wouldn’t be around long
Creepy and weird. But then they raised that that kid, that man. There's a backstory.
Bad translation from the reporter. The coworker said we wish this was a dream. Meaning we wish this didn’t happen
Ummmm you think we actually NEEDED a blow by blow explanation of that? A well known often used phrase???
How bizarre.
Thanks for the clarification 👍
I’m always still shocked and grateful that there are cops and first responders willing to go into a scene like this.
@helenazalom4301 it pretty much stays in your brain 🧠 forever, people just get distracted with things in life to not have those thoughts destroy them.
Insurance probably denied keeping him in the hospital
💯 merica's hellscare system is f up
Yeah that makes sense
🎯 I wouldn’t doubt it. Insurance companies are great if you’re healthy.
Absolute scams imo..
Yep. And that’s why CEO’s are…….
The parents wanted the hospital to keep him in to find out what is wrong with him and the liberals running the hospital didn't like being told what to do and released him. See? Same thing happening in the jails.
Gosh, the emotion in Mr Dicus' pleas is absolutely heart wrenching.
The anguish in his father's voice during the 911 was chilling. I'm so sorry for this woman. How horrifying. My coworker's son had a mental health crisis and the facility released him despite his parents pleading with them to keep him. He offed himself the same day, but at least he didn't take anyone out with him.
I could not imagine walking in on a scene so horrific 😢 it would be scarred in your brain forever 😢
I watch these to remind myself to stay single at all costs
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Yes
That's a sad outlook to have. You can't live a full life if you are scared to actually experience and live life.
Just take reasonable precautions and you should be fine.
@darthphilfy well it's better than to get caught in to a situation and it's too late
Well that’s a ridiculous ideology
Wouldn't want to be this guys cell mate.
He may be saying the same thing depending upon who his cellmate is. There's always someone somewhere else just as crazy as you are...or even crazier.
"she is my daughter-in-law"...and the dispatch goes on "Female?"....🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨
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Silly dispatcher as usual
Well, it *is* a valid question anymore
Not it's not ppl and Society has gotten absolutely ridiculous @@Cheechochic
To be honest they probably HAVE to ask that question now…. Bc so many are ready to Sue over misgendering and pronouning… 😊
The saddest part of this is that schizoprhenia is easily diagnosed. It is also manageable.The hospital should have known right away that he needed to speak with psych. Perfect age for onset, and symptoms of psychosis . Shame on them for releasing him.
I grew up amongst schizophrenic family members the hardest thing to witness.
Is he schizophrenic or is it meth induced psychosis?
He said he did drugs, that is the after effect due
his poor choices and irresponsibility and now an innocent girl is gone. Evil evil man.
@@yenada That's not how that works. Substance abuse is more common for people with schizophrenia. Schizophrenia is not an after affect of drugs. He's clearly very mentally unwell and THAT is what caused his actions. Poor choices has nothing to do with it when you aren't truly aware of what you're doing.
@@yenada Im sure the drugs didn't help. I agree it is a terrible tragedy. I pray for their families and friends and loved ones and hope that they find a path to peace.
Poor people. The hospital should be sued for releasing him.
They dont make $ & gov doesnt really want to pay anymore for mentally ill. 😢 So sad or he couldve had UNITEDHEALTHCARE deny him?😮
Taking drugs isn't a medical condition. People take drugs and they have to bear the consequences of their actions. If the patient isn't honest, the doctor has no justification to keep him. If he had said something about wanting to kill someone, they would have kept him.
@victordelorientis8763 eh you're pretty wrong, because drug induced psychosis is VERY REAL AND VERY DANGEROUS and a Doctor should be able to diagnose and treat it. Physicians LOVE TREATING all drug users like drug seekers during hospital visits and immediately dismiss any and all concerns.
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@victordelorientis8763 Using drugs is largely connected to mental illnesses, conditions and trauma. The doctors dropped the ball on doing their jobs and getting him the help he needed. There was at least 2 justifications in keeping this guy or at least finding the cause and making sure he could get treatment. 1.) Not releasing someone a danger out into society without proper treatment and medication and 2.) Protect said patient from harming self. Clearly too many people knew he had a problem and dropped the ball. Drs and nurses were responsible for not getting to the root cause which could also be a brain tumor at times. The hospital Drs should be fully liable.
He perfectly coherent in the police car at the scene. Even remembers his 6 digit password.
How terrible that this happened and how terrible for all the people that saw it.
He would have to be demon possessed to have done this horrendous act. People need to wake up we’re living in a serious spiritual battle.
911 operator who was speaking to the dad was outstanding. No pointless questions and she was so professional. This could have been avoided had that doctor kept him in. I don’t know how these poor parents will get over this . That poor woman must have been terrified when he attacked her. Terrible.
wow that doctor who said he was 'fine' probably did not sleep too well after hearing his released patient dismembered his wife.
Another case of the state failing mental illness patients.This man probably promise this poor girl the world and instead she found her own demise Clearly she didn't know who she got married to. Mental illness combined with drugs it's a tragedy waiting to happen.This could've been prevented. So sorry for the woman who lost her life so young.
she was illegal and he was free money and housing
Meth
Asylums should be brought back.
@@xXxpowerbagxXx wow! Blaming the victim?
She probably married him to get papers to stay in the US. Many people that come here from other places, try to marry to get their papers. Poor girl and poor families that have to deal with this mess. disclamer: But IDK, I wasn't there, just my opinion.
So sad. He tried so hard to get help and the hospital turned him onto the street. Now police are grilling him while he's in active psychosis.
Mental health care needs a total overhaul. People asking for help need to be helped.
"Grifting him"? Did you miss the part where he cut his wife's head off? What would you have the police do, get him a pillow and a comfy blankie?
And LE needs to know the difference.
In Australia too😢
America's entire health, insurance & FDA medication approval process is huge scam & beyond disgraceful. Law enforcement & DEA has only added to the above problems.
People need to stop doing drugs that make them crazy.
He was having the first break from schizophrenia. I saw many young people in psych hospitals after a disastrous incident. They had been having mild symptoms then a horrific incident of violence or self harm. This is so sad.
Sounds like he stayed up for days and did drugs until he snapped. That's not schizophrenia, no matter how much RUclips commenters decide it is.
Fine line between mental illness and demonic possession
@@TheMary0831 why are you assuming it can't be both?
@@dawnieb.7394 Because I've watched about 100 videos with people on drugs doing this same stuff?
Please reference where you have found proof that this person did not have Schizophrenia @TheMary0831
I’m sorry but if I hear a person say they’re hearing voice or hearing anything I’m not-I’m gonna RUN!!
You dont have to run. Talk to them and tell them you not hearing those voices so its only them. Ask them whose voice and tell them its not real.
@@empressannjam1 It's nowhere near that simple. When my ex had his first psychotic break, I tried everything. I even gave him multiple Xanax and he would not go to sleep. I had him put in the hospital multiple times. After a couple months of trying to get him under control, I had to send him back to his family. It was too risky having him around my little niece and family. He would have hurt himself, or one of us. You can't just tell them the voices aren't real and it stops...
@@empressannjam1have you ever tried to tell someone hearing voices that it isn't real?
IF they hear you, it's very real to them and are often unconsolable.
Their perception of reality is so different than yours at them times that meds is one of the few things that brings calm to the situation.
Also the strength in a person suffering from an episode is not to be under estimated!
If he told the hospital staff he was hearing voices, they should have kept him. It's clear how out of it he is when he's claiming that he's been on meth for 2 weeks yet tested negative. This is just an absolutely horrific and heartbreaking situation. Anggys poor mother and family 💔
Negative for meth but positive for Cocaine and THC. He was definitely on drugs.
Hearing voices is not a reason for a 72 hour hold under the law. Have to be able to prove harm. Lots of people on the streets are hearing voices, sadly. We have no mechanisms to help them; no funding.
So the dad told the doctors that they had to keep him because he was hearing voices etc... and the doctors just cleared him ? The dad, so the person that knows best his son, clearly said there's something wrong with him, and the doctors just say "Hey, seems pretty normal to me!" and the next day the guy kill his wife. Freaking sue those fake doctors
edit: Those cops are really bad at taking informations, never seen the cop just said "okay, okay" and when he goes tell what he knows, he just says well the girl name is anggy, she worked at thingplace and sergeant thing is coming, that's it like really ?
Probably didn't have insurance. So the doctors adjudged him "fine."
Doctor and hospital need to be sued!!
@TawnyC_ there's very little mental health services. Most deeply afflicted that would have been institutionalised are now simply thrown in prison/jail. Which only amplifies the issue
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But did he? Without the son's medical records, we only have the father's word. He may have thought he mentioned it, but didn't. He may have told a nurse, not a doctor. Then, that nurse went into the next room, and had to help hold down a violent patient, and forgot to pass on that information to the doctor. The father may not have been allowed in his adult son's room, or not even gone to the hospital with him, and now he knows his son is in trouble, and he is saying that to alleviate his responsibility. One thing I have learned in my 28 yrs as an RN: people lie. Another thing I have noticed, is everyone is willing to put all of the blame on the hospital who may or may not have been aware of him hearing voices, but none on his parents who would have been 100% aware of it, but did nothing to protect their daughter in law by asking her to stay with them in their home. If they were so convinced that their son were a threat, why let her stay alone with him? Why not bring him immediately to another hospital? Why not sit up all night with him until he could be evaluated in the morning by emergency psych services? There were many things the parents could have also done to prevent this. Unless, of course, you are willing to admit that no one could have foreseen this. That would then let the hospital off the hook for any responsibility, too. Just some things to think about while quarterbacking from the armchair.
The detectives clearly don't understand he's most likely still in a schizophrenic state or just recovering from one which includes memory loss and confusion.
That whole interview should have been tossed out. He can't consent to the interview and acknowledge his rights when he's in that state.
This is ridiculous
I would think they still need to interview him anyway
@karenaware6569 that is understandable, but once they (should have) noticed significant signs, they should've at least gotten him an attorney to be present in the interrogation? Yes, an immediate interrogation would be absolutely necessary, but when they had even they slightest inclination, he had diminished capacity (especially with the severity of his horrific crime) they should've known better.
Their job is to interrogate
After that the law will evaluate
Then a doctor will be called in
Then a diagnosis submitted to the law
Etc
It’s a process
There is no place to keep crazy people since the government closed all the mental facilities years ago as they were constantly being sued and accused of mistreating patients. So now they are just sent back home for the public to deal with. Each state should be required to have a Mental Institution for them.
All we need is transparency, there is no reason we can't keep tabs on what staff is doing. No weird experiments and Government testing.
Oh that poor father on the 911 call!!! Just heartbreaking!!!
Years ago, my family member was dating a nice girl, she either was a Dr., or studying to be, I don't remember. I told her in no uncertain terms about his problems, there was no fixing him, and if she didn't get away immediately she would spend the rest of her life wishing she had. I felt she was owed a heads-up. He's gone on to wreak havoc on anyone and everyone in his orbit. Glad I could save one, sorry it was necessary. This guy's parents should have warned her.
You did the right thing and she is blessed to have met you. You seem like a golden hearted person. Much respect to you.
We use to have mental institutions they could go to that would have been more equip and knowledgeable to deal with this crisis were in. This is absolutely tragic that poor girl.
I wish they would bring them back, but in a totally different system than we used to have (history of mental institutions is not pretty).
@@MarieJS535 Instead of fixing the system they closed it down. Hence some now live on the street. No where to go no help. The drug crisis made it worse.
Its a scientific fact that a lot of males in their 20's just suffer from schizophrenia out of nowhere, couple that with drugs and we have ourselves a killer and the prison system are filled with them. I see a lot of folks blaming the hospitals but it's there policy to stabilize and release. You need a fortune teller to see the future. I just feel for the families so much.
Yep, I also find it odd the amount of people that think the hospital could/should have held him because the family asked them to. If he was coherent enough to answer any questions the doctors asked then their hands are tied.
Scientific fact ? Where is your science sourced from?
Incorrect, ‘it’s not a lot of males.’
@@wln8888 Look it up, researching it yourself isn't hard. There's plenty of information from medical studies and medical facilities like the Mayo Clinic on Schizophrenia and when it usually develops in men, the peak being 21-25. It may seem like it's out of no where, and there's no conclusive reason as to why it happens. Some suspect it has to do with estrogen levels, or also a link between DNA modifications and early brain development.
@ the “a lot” part is inaccurate because it’s actually a small percentage but everything else checks out. Males that have undiagnosed schizophrenia tend to start showing signs in their late teens early 20s. Same thing with females only it’s typically late 20s early 30s.
Unfortunately it is also common that Emergency room doctors release them when they really need to be sent to a mental hospital and forcibly evaluated and treated in a safe lockdown facility.
💯 correct
What's the likelihood he had insurance that covers psych stuff? Many don't or put big restrictions on level and length of care. You wouldn't believe how much insurance controls if and what you get treated for. Hospitals boot you out if you're under insured or no insurance at all.
@@gingw7333if the hospital knows someone is a danger to themselves or someone else it's a 3 day hold insurance or not. That's the law in most states..but who knows if this area even had a psyche ward close by ..most hospitals don't even have them anymore. It's definitely a huge problem. Dr s are mandatory reporters . So evidently he didn't threaten to hurt himself or anyone else at the hospital or they would've had to hold him up to 72 hr somewhere.
We tore all the mental institutions down 🤦🏼♂️ huge mistake
I'm sorry to say it but the American healthcare system is inhumane and dysfunctional. Health should not be run on the business model. Re open state mental health facilities.
Sue the doctor saying he was fine. Father begged him to keep him..
She married into that dodgy family and didn't know what she was getting into. They were having police called on them all the time. No wonder the son was disturbed, not to mention the drugs. He was taking every drug under the sun, BUT the meth. Poor girl, 21 years old, ambitious, sweet, everything to live for. Something was wrong with Jared and his family and she knew it as soon as the ink dried on their marriage license. Her friends saw her change overnight. He had no right to take her life. Her family back home will be wishing she had never left. I hope her mother survived the cancer but what an awful burden to carry forever.
That's why i don't fool with these people
Cuz the cop mentioned he was there ONE TIME about a car...that's the cops being called all the time and they're dodgy? How entitled and judgmental....yuck. 🙄🤬🤮
This is why it’s important to learn each other’s family health history.
@Queen_EL11 EXACTLY
@@6HauntedDaysikr? Jared obviously caused trouble in town, but the parents seemed like they did everything they could to get him help.
Naw, I don't think the dad was such a bad guy. Just looked to me like he was concerned about harm coming to his dogs and had seen enough destruction already. The officer just misunderstood which house they needed to go into which made him defensive. Simple misunderstanding😑
Same. Dad did everything he could, including giving him a safe place to live, trying his best to have his monster of a son institutionalized and kept him in the house while he called the police. The poor man just needed a minute. I don't blame him.
The detective should get his facts straight before he starts asking people questions
That segment of the video really, really got on my nerves. I guess because I’ve worked with people like him before who over react and want to turn everything into a problem when it’s not necessary.
There was no need for his attitude. The police were just following protocol as they always do, and they even asked for his persmission. It wasn’t like they were going to say “Well, FU, we’re going into your house anyway.” Then, I would understand the dad being all defensive.
Even after both sides acknowledged it was a misunderstanding and the police said they’ll only look behind the house, the dad was still upset and trying to make an issue out of it… Oh my gawd, dude, calm down. We’ve already settled that it was a simple misunderstanding, so let’s move on and get the job done shyt!!!
Hate dealing with people who get upset so easily and can’t forgive you for small mistakes.
@TigerTummy23 I partially agree but the cops have a record.
@@TigerTummy23totally agree with you. Father and son alike.
Not to sound old fashioned but if you are getting married to live in a shed on your in-laws property perhaps your lives arent really at a stable enough point to consider marriage.
true
They were saving money to help her mother and advance themselves.
This is our health care system, I man begging for help and he’s told that he’s fine and is sent home.
Whatever doctor saw him should lose his license and spend time in jail, the hospital should pay her family millions for a doctor not caring a man needed help.
Probably the insurance company wouldn't approve further care.
We need to start having mandatory minimum jail sentences for DUIs past the first one
This could have been totally avoided if they kept him in the hospital 😢
I'm betting it was insurance that wouldn't approve further care because he was not having an episode at that moment.
This man is mentally not capable of an interogation and needs hospitalization and a attorney
His father’s attitude speaks volumes about what kinda environment he was most likely raised in. He from nothing to something with one simple question.
All you people need to quit making excuses for this monster. That’s why we have so many repeat offenders on our streets.
How in the world did a psychiatrist find him competent to stand trial??
Thats what they do now, certify them competent, put em in jail.
That psych doctor that refused to keep him? Gross negligence and blatant malpractice.
The problem is that the doctor probably had nowhere to place him.
Should have kept him for further evaluation, 😟 another failure with the system,😤 so extremely disheartening to hear this. 💔 Mental illness is real. His dad/ family, etc, knew something was terribly wrong with the dude.😕
100%
Exactly what the sheriff was saying at a recent press conference after one his deputies was killed by a mentally unstable individual driving around with a ton of weapons. That person's family also knew the guy was sick and no one was doing anything to help. The heartbroken sheriff (bless him) said pretty much how we all feel - family members, people in the know, should be taking steps to make sure they're getting treated. Not unleashing them to the world.
@@mariarohmer2374 Lets just hope that you are never in that situation. If Doctors won't help, it leaves family members on their own trying to find a solution.
@@debbiemaxwell8026 If you want to get into a larger discussion about how this country fails the serious needs of too many citizens it's going to take more room than a comments section.
Absolutely!
It seems that he used drugs and then killed his wife. A drug head who destroyed his wife's life and his own life!. Drugs are vileness so avoid them or face the consequences.
Don't forget to mention booze. The king of all drugs
Oh thanks inspector clueso , it wasn't apparent watching the video what happened
Or maybe he was just evil and dangerous!
I think hearing voices is mental illness then doing drugs with mental illness has tragic endings.. The doctor/hospital
really dropped the ball...
@kuroneko7022 no couldn't be that .. @ strong-foot is some kind of detective and has solved the case for the comments ..
The DA needs to hold accountable the murderer as well as the psychiatrist that discharged him back home!! This doctor failed the family.
On what basis?? You can't keep people without any justifications. If the patient doesn't tell the doctors that he wants to harm himself or harm others, there is no basis to keep him. He shouldn't have taken drugs, nobody forced him to take drugs. Actually, the law says to not take drugs!!
@ the insurance regarding mental health needs reform. The psychiatrist just does enough, sends patient home despite family members ( who know patient best) have great concerns regarding safety of patient and others, ( begging the doctors to keep their loved one). In this case the father begged for the psych hospital to keep his son. Within days his son murdered the wife. It’s a broken system.
@@victordelorientis8763 It doesn't matter if he "wants" to harm himself or others. It matters if he's a danger to himself or others. And the way he has acting and him hearing voices, that's definitely a danger. Involuntary hospitalization is common in cases like that, doctor just needed to fill out a clinical certificate and mental health petition.
I would be stunned if this young man saw a psychiatrist while in the hospital. They likely treated him for a drug overdose or drug reaction. Many small hospitals have no psychiatrist on staff.
Sorry, I posted twice on your comment without realizing it.. My bad, one comment was enough.. I disagree with you but I'm not angry at you.. 🤣
The questioning is horrible. Cops need more training on this!!
If he had a decent lawyer they would have had everything from that interview thrown out. The police knew that he was mentally unstable, the lead officer stated it on tape prior to the interview.
You can't consent if you are under the influence or in the midst of a psychotic episode.
The prosecution got lucky with him obviously having a crap lawyer who had him take the first deal that they offered.
They really are terrible
Cops are not doctors.people expect cops to be everything,and complain about everything they do.
Makeup your mind...everyone is blaming everyone but the man who murdered his wife. The doctors whose hands are tied the wife etc. He should be out??? WTF. No. He took a life of someone. You want him next door to you? Didnt think so. Some people cant be fixed.
Thank you for showing up in person and with a real human voice!
One of these days we are gonna start taking mental health issues seriously i blame that hospital for releasing him while he was actively "hearing voices"
Probably insurance wouldn't pay for further treatment. IDK
Drug induced???
Why did he call 911 for an ambulance but his family was with him? None of them could take him to the ER?
Maybe scared of him..
Because often paranoia or embarrassment leads people to not want to involve family in mental health matters. You heard the dad - he begged the hospital to keep him, they failed him letting him home
There's a dozen possibilities here. Maybe their vehicle broke down. Maybe he wouldn't let them. Maybe they were afraid of being in a locked vehicle with him. Maybe they were sick with the flu. Obviously there was some sort of reason. It's not like the RUclips viewers are going to know any more than you do.
Ummm… he seems to be doing it without them knowing
@ItsNotReallyWork
If they knew do you think that they would call instead of him while being obviously confused🫤
Oh my gosh nice dispatchers for once!!
I was thinking the very same thing.
@@us4damons there are more that you don’t hear. With 340+ million Americans there are probably enough calls in one year that it would take a lifetime for someone to listen to all of them.
That stood out to me too! They were so empathetic and gentle with him. they just respectfully asked him questions without it sounding like they were badgering the crap out of him. Their kindness really stood out.
I think that guy is hearing voices during the interrogation. The way he keeps cocking his head to the side tells me he is listening to someone.
I really feel for the wife’s parents and family and friends 😢♥️ sending love and prayers ✝️🙏and condolences to them ♥️ on this very difficult time in 2023❤♥️♥️
There was no father and Im guessing she was here illegally. She came to the US to work so she could finance her mother's cancer treatment back in her home country.
If the cancer didnt kill her, her daughter's murder will.
Angie wanted that green card in a bad so she could help her family. How very sad.
Rest in peace dear Angel.
2023?
Regardless....he should never get out of prison.
Cops are so bumbling, I swear. The basic communication of WHICH house the body is in and they can't even get that simple detail correct.
@kim4446... Absolutely, correct! Dad was fully traumaticized, he didn't need this cop getting hostile with him ...
Listening to his dad/her father-in-law sobbing and sounding so panicked broke my heart.
Example of our country's failed mental health / drug treatment system.
Amen! 💯
Thanks to Ronald Reagan.
I’m sure the Dr. simply assumed it was the drugs. What a sad story for everyone involved!
@@maramirkin3325 being up for a week because of drugs will make you hear and see things. Being up for a week without drugs will make you pretty messed up. I can’t even imagine what happens with though I have had a few people explain their experiences to me. All I could ask was why would you willingly do that to yourself? It never sounded fun in the least.
You can’t make assumptions in the mental health field though.
He seems so normal too, that's what's terrifying 😨
He don't look innocent at all
@@JourneyofBella331 i meant normal, thanks for indirectly reminding me
Look at the eyes 👀. He's got the psycho factor
Demonic possession?
@@jenscheibner792uh no. Mental illness plus crack
I've never met such kind and mannerly police officers in my life!
It makes me so furious when someone TRIES to get help and isn't heard.
Parents know their children. If dad said to keep him, the doctor failed him.
His parents had to know he was not right.
They probably never dreamed he would do that.
They did. They took him to the hospital.
The doctor told them the son was fine and released him.
Not the parents fault.
Search warrant when there’s clearly a body?
Aren't you supposed to ease into the interrogation, to get them comfortable enough to talk these two detectives got straight to the point.
They were terrible.
It's Texas 😂
These detectives were one of the worst I’ve ever seen at interrogations. They could have gotten much more useful information had they gone about it properly. He must have had a crappy lawyer also. I’d be interested in watching the trial.
And to clarify. Obviously he’s guilty and I’m not siding with the man and his actions at all. Just commenting on the terribly done interview. They have zero skills and got lucky to get the little information they did.
turning body cams on and off should be just as illegal
The idea that searching someone's house to investigate a murder is a threat or threatening is ridiculous just as it's ridiculous to even think that someone's going to shoot your dogs just because they want to search your property.
So clearly not ok this guy was all bit begging for help and they failed him miserably and in turn her and their families so tragic and preventable