Cancer is hell. I pray for your healing. Original sin kills us all. God may choose to heal. Trust and hope in Him. God's will be done. In the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
It seems there is little emphasis put on the last command of Jesus from Mt 28 and Mk 16. When I try to simplify 75 years of being a Lutheran and The various seed sewing programs I come to what I think is the most important two questions every Christian should be asking but almost never hear talked about in the Lutheran Church. Can you think of any questions more important? Will you be in Heaven on Judgement Day and Why would Jesus allow you into heaven? Your thoughts? From those two one knows if there is a need .
ty so much for this. and @9:33 this also ties into the question "God does his will anyway so why pray" - so if praying "give us this day our daily bread" helps us see everything with thanksgiving, not jyst what we ask, then maybe "thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven" leads to helping us trust and wait for the Lord in his time curious hey? that these could be tied together in that way... Godspeed in your ministries
Hey pastors! My pastor (a typical Fort Wayne grad and very much a learned man when it comes to the church Fathers) was telling me the other day that he believes the incarnation would still have happened even without the fall. In other words, he told me that the plan God had set in place always was for Christ to be made manifest and that, if Adam hadn’t fallen, Jesus would have still been born in order to bring about our sanctification and elevate us to the title of sons/daughters of God that we now can hold. He was able to direct me towards a number of fathers who held this belief and convinced me that it was a not altogether uncommon idea, but I am personally not quite sure what to think. I’m not sure if this is something that you have come across in your studies, but any help or resources you could point me towards on this topic would be greatly appreciated. Keep up the mediocre work!
I agree, but there is a difference between humanity’s pre-fall and heavenly natures. Post death and resurrection, our natures are made perfect in a way that wasn’t part of Eden in that we can no longer sin. The only way for heaven to fall is for our king to fall, and since Christ has replaced Adam as the head of creation, there is no chance of us losing our perfection. On top of this, our wills are unified with God’s, so that we might have no desire to sin nor the nature that would allow for us to. My pastor believes that, due to these differences, the incarnation would have always happened even apart from the fall and that Christ would have been born to unify us with God in the same way we are today, but the issue I found with this is that it presupposes that Eden was not perfect but instead still being molded. It’s a very technical question but it’s implications do affect our understanding of human nature versus original sin, and what part of us is made greater in baptism than when formed by God in the mud and clay back in Eden.
If suffering is such a necessary tool of Christian growth, why do we pray "Deliver us from evil". (I'm not talking about suffering for the sake of our Christian witness, that is a joy and makes us partakers in Christ's suffering) - John
If this life and this world were perfect, what would we need treasure in Heaven for? It would defeat the whole point of everything. What could we learn. how could we grow. How could God shape us, and form us. How could the potter fill up the pot if he didn't first pass it through the fire and bake it in his oven.
Please talk more on that idea of sovereignty. The pop American Christian culture is always peaking and singing of the King, ruling, reigning, kingdom ____, worthy, mighty, powerful, etc. Yet, there’s nothing of substance attached to it; it’s shallow. The response for what the King results in bowing down (though they stand with raised arms or sipping the sacramental coffee), saying they will praise Him (though with 10,000 reasons Jesus is not named nor anything He did is mentioned), they will serve Him (not indicating how), credit themselves for showing up to worship, singing, crying, dancing, and other random acts of attention seeking behavior, shout all over (which the demoniacs did to Jesus and the Apostles), and with all the sovereign God has done for them, they need to go and do more or people will go to hell every time they stand snapping their fingers. From Calvin’s sovereignty producing double predestination there is a change by the Arminians and then a mixing and diluting that seems to have resulted in the American Christian bookshelves, contemporary music, and popular personalities.
Cancer is hell. I pray for your healing. Original sin kills us all. God may choose to heal. Trust and hope in Him. God's will be done. In the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
Thank you, pastors! I appreciate your God-given insights into God’s Word. So good. God bless you in your ministries.
It seems there is little emphasis put on the last command of Jesus from Mt 28 and Mk 16. When I try to simplify 75 years of being a Lutheran and The various seed sewing programs I come to what I think is the most important two questions every Christian should be asking but almost never hear talked about in the Lutheran Church. Can you think of any questions more important? Will you be in Heaven on Judgement Day and Why would Jesus allow you into heaven? Your thoughts? From those two one knows if there is a need .
Sunday's interior said that The Lord alone does wondrous things..
ty so much for this. and @9:33 this also ties into the question "God does his will anyway so why pray" - so if praying "give us this day our daily bread" helps us see everything with thanksgiving, not jyst what we ask, then maybe "thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven" leads to helping us trust and wait for the Lord in his time
curious hey? that these could be tied together in that way...
Godspeed in your ministries
Hey pastors! My pastor (a typical Fort Wayne grad and very much a learned man when it comes to the church Fathers) was telling me the other day that he believes the incarnation would still have happened even without the fall. In other words, he told me that the plan God had set in place always was for Christ to be made manifest and that, if Adam hadn’t fallen, Jesus would have still been born in order to bring about our sanctification and elevate us to the title of sons/daughters of God that we now can hold. He was able to direct me towards a number of fathers who held this belief and convinced me that it was a not altogether uncommon idea, but I am personally not quite sure what to think. I’m not sure if this is something that you have come across in your studies, but any help or resources you could point me towards on this topic would be greatly appreciated. Keep up the mediocre work!
Christ was always in union with humanity since the foundations. What happened on the Cross was to restore our sight to what has always been.
I agree, but there is a difference between humanity’s pre-fall and heavenly natures. Post death and resurrection, our natures are made perfect in a way that wasn’t part of Eden in that we can no longer sin. The only way for heaven to fall is for our king to fall, and since Christ has replaced Adam as the head of creation, there is no chance of us losing our perfection. On top of this, our wills are unified with God’s, so that we might have no desire to sin nor the nature that would allow for us to. My pastor believes that, due to these differences, the incarnation would have always happened even apart from the fall and that Christ would have been born to unify us with God in the same way we are today, but the issue I found with this is that it presupposes that Eden was not perfect but instead still being molded. It’s a very technical question but it’s implications do affect our understanding of human nature versus original sin, and what part of us is made greater in baptism than when formed by God in the mud and clay back in Eden.
If suffering is such a necessary tool of Christian growth, why do we pray "Deliver us from evil". (I'm not talking about suffering for the sake of our Christian witness, that is a joy and makes us partakers in Christ's suffering) - John
I prefer the term “omnipotent” to “sovereign” in relation to God
They did warn me that its better to be them than me
If this life and this world were perfect, what would we need treasure in Heaven for? It would defeat the whole point of everything. What could we learn. how could we grow. How could God shape us, and form us. How could the potter fill up the pot if he didn't first pass it through the fire and bake it in his oven.
Please talk more on that idea of sovereignty. The pop American Christian culture is always peaking and singing of the King, ruling, reigning, kingdom ____, worthy, mighty, powerful, etc. Yet, there’s nothing of substance attached to it; it’s shallow. The response for what the King results in bowing down (though they stand with raised arms or sipping the sacramental coffee), saying they will praise Him (though with 10,000 reasons Jesus is not named nor anything He did is mentioned), they will serve Him (not indicating how), credit themselves for showing up to worship, singing, crying, dancing, and other random acts of attention seeking behavior, shout all over (which the demoniacs did to Jesus and the Apostles), and with all the sovereign God has done for them, they need to go and do more or people will go to hell every time they stand snapping their fingers. From Calvin’s sovereignty producing double predestination there is a change by the Arminians and then a mixing and diluting that seems to have resulted in the American Christian bookshelves, contemporary music, and popular personalities.
I can tell you've gone into really deep thought on this.