Why Games Workshop Models are BAD Sometimes

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  • Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
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  • @EonsOfBattle
    @EonsOfBattle  14 часов назад +4

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  • @jacccs
    @jacccs 2 часа назад +42

    really feels like 40k gets the least effort put in, which is an interesting choice

    • @RealmDesigner
      @RealmDesigner 2 часа назад +9

      Don't feel that way at all. The Kroot release this year was great!

    • @JoNoEe
      @JoNoEe 2 часа назад +2

      I don't think it's the least effort, it seems like the most effort with the least direction. Now you have new factions coming out overcomplicated and finicky and then immediately overshadowed by Meet the Primarchs with Lion'el and Robute.

    • @jamesygamesy5124
      @jamesygamesy5124 Час назад +1

      custodes are one of the most popular faction usually top 5 most played in touranments but get barely any support model wise weird choice

    • @excessiveclownery4375
      @excessiveclownery4375 Час назад +4

      My guess is that the designers don't get as much freedom as the aos team. Probably more strict rules on stuff like space marines too

    • @beanman853
      @beanman853 Час назад

      @@RealmDesigner I think it has the highest variance

  • @LiliaArmoury
    @LiliaArmoury Час назад +6

    as a sister of battle fan i am royally miffed that squats got bikes before we did and we came into plastic first

  • @knightsljx
    @knightsljx Час назад +22

    coming from the gunpla world, GW really doesn't consider the customer when engineering the sprue. like why would you leave HALF a foot on the terrain piece? Bandai literally splits their kit based on colours and injects them in colour so you don't even have to paint them. While miniatures are harder to split, there should be at least some baseline on how to split the mini to make painting easier

    • @Azrael56
      @Azrael56 Час назад +2

      Miniatures aren't hard to split, they were split in the past (because they are made for being split): you could buy 3 unique Space Marines box and mix them, same for Ork/Orc.
      GW went back for monopose for core units and it's sad because now you have 5 boyz repeat a multiple time in your army instead of having 50 unique boyz.

    • @cbjewelz
      @cbjewelz Час назад +1

      I don’t think anyone wants pre colored plastic. There is no default color in Warhammer that people want. It always changes and forcing a blue space marine for instance would make priming/basecoating harder

    • @Bloodworia
      @Bloodworia Час назад

      There is a huge difference in miniature details. Gunpla does not have the same detail as GW miniatures.

    • @Badbufon
      @Badbufon 5 минут назад

      ​​@@cbjewelzthere are default color schemes, or does GW have artwork, pictures and animations all in grey?
      Bro, you can prime any plastic and paint in top of it. Nobody is being forced, but it does help to speed up the process of having game ready minis right away for people that don't want to paint them.
      It would also solve unnecessary piles of shame.
      Good counterpoints would be that each mini would be dispersed in several sprues, assembly mould be more difficult and prices would be higher.
      All of you instead of being reactionary and not engaging with new ideas and shaming the guy, just think, think for second what would be like and if there are some merits on it.
      It is frustrating seeing people yapping to maintain tradition.

    • @maxbrandt6
      @maxbrandt6 3 минуты назад

      You're not the first to notice the, let's say, weird way GW engineers their kits. The Bretonnian foot knight has agitated everyone who has tried to assemble those figures, they scramble up the part location of every part you need to make just one knight in the instructions. Those who play Orks in 40k have also been treated *horribly* by GW's anti-consumerist ways, I feel for you guys, I really do. It was never like this years ago, everything was very approachable before GW started hating their customers.

  • @Retrosicotte
    @Retrosicotte Час назад +2

    It's easily surmised as "Specialist Studio are awesome model makers passionate about everything they do, main studio are very selective and only try hard on some thing". It's why Necromunda and the like are hands down the best model line in GW, and it's not even close.

  • @MrGBH
    @MrGBH Час назад +8

    Considering that Votann have barely any datasheets, I'm surprised they don't give these a 40K datasheet and make them usable, just to pad them out a bit

    • @Retrosicotte
      @Retrosicotte Час назад +1

      GW doesn't want any connections between games is why.

    • @midknight9327
      @midknight9327 22 минуты назад

      Those are different factions tho, votann obey the votann cores and these squats are just rogues that live on the planet

    • @Retrosicotte
      @Retrosicotte 18 минут назад

      @@midknight9327 Subfactions of the same people, ultimately. They still share a lot of culture and likely diplomatic connections for trade, so they'd work well as crossover rules, but GW doesn't want that because GW forgot what fun was.

  • @euansmith3699
    @euansmith3699 Час назад +2

    I can't see those trike riders getting much use out of their headlight; between the front tire being in the way, and the crap that tire would throw up.
    Those 3d Printed Orcs have got a nice Paul Bonner feel to them.

  • @e_m_met
    @e_m_met 2 часа назад +29

    Orktober would be a great time to paint a Crimson Fist

    • @excessiveclownery4375
      @excessiveclownery4375 2 часа назад +6

      Keep fighting the good fight

    • @briankessinger862
      @briankessinger862 Час назад

      Should go pretty quick!🤣

    • @dr.sommercamp3435
      @dr.sommercamp3435 59 минут назад +1

      Paintin' a bunch of borin' humie beakygitzes?! In orktoba?! Why?!

    • @DatBrasss
      @DatBrasss 46 минут назад

      ​@dr.sommercamp3435 look up Rynn's World

    • @LupusGr3y
      @LupusGr3y 14 минут назад

      Orktober would be a great time to paint some actual orks

  • @Bloodworia
    @Bloodworia Час назад +1

    My friend and I have this conspiracy theory that whoever designs Necromunda must be james Workshops best friend and can do whatever they want.

  • @maxbrandt6
    @maxbrandt6 14 минут назад

    Those goblins and troll @12:36 and the Orcs @13:10 are based directly off of Paul Bonner's artwork from the 3rd edition Warhammer Fantasy days! That is *really* impressive to see 3D renders and then resin figure of them! I have to get these figures!

  • @AttiraKell
    @AttiraKell Час назад +1

    Though i am not super steeped in the community, i do enjoy kill team and painting. I do love the folks that have upgrad bits that turn your model up to 10000. Better pauldrons and do dads on tbe model.

  • @kennyclaing4923
    @kennyclaing4923 Час назад +1

    I really like the bikes, they remind me of the last Batmobile design, and I love it !

  • @n8o073
    @n8o073 2 часа назад +5

    warlord titan when?

  • @Silvertaurus_
    @Silvertaurus_ 32 минуты назад

    About how Hair are constructed.
    Try checking Melusai archers or spear girls.. their huge hair are connected to model with one, little joint - they break of sooo easly.
    I learned with time, when I glue them back I always stick them as well a bit to a back or arm, or any other point to make it sturdier.

  • @RotheraPoint
    @RotheraPoint 2 часа назад +8

    That bark at 0:21 really caught me off guard.

  • @PearlJam2k6
    @PearlJam2k6 Час назад +6

    My view is simple, fuck GW for making all the models monopose. Bring back actual multipiece models instead so that we dont have to see the same exact armies on 15 different tables because there's literally no choice aside swaping a head or slapping some deco items on top.

  • @LiliaArmoury
    @LiliaArmoury 57 минут назад

    honestly i a fairly certain that the reason things are split the way they are these days is to prevent compatibility with 3rd party parts to some degree. like look at how so many models no longer have separate torsos and legs but wierd amalgomations of both

  • @MentoliptusBanko
    @MentoliptusBanko 32 минуты назад

    I play but I don't understand the Hedonites of Slaanesh either...so I started playing the Blades of Khorne :D

  • @maidxxxxxx
    @maidxxxxxx Час назад

    have got a burgeoning hedonites army myself rn and i feel you with the blissbarbs 😭 even reading their instructions feels like im looking at a fuckin lovecraftian necronomicon

  • @stg.wendigo1655
    @stg.wendigo1655 Час назад

    Oh yeah.. great tip for if you want more posebility on Necrons.. snip off the tube and use a guitar string.. best tip i got from reddit

  • @bludragon77
    @bludragon77 Час назад

    The main reason why original fantasy died off was the bare minimum effort put into the release and update of miniatures and rules. And now it seems 40k is suffering at the model level itself. It seems like fantasy and sci-fi from them go in like adhd bursts like ooohhhhhh fantasy age of sigmar, then model sculpts for 40k are not so good and the rules too, then like attention span of a fly ohhhhhhhhh sci-fi and now vise versa

  • @Ishlol1
    @Ishlol1 Час назад

    GW is kinda doing the opposite; They’re changing the rules to stifle creativity/ reducing the need for converting extra melts guns or whatever, by ‘box-locking’ choices 😅

  • @gregoryhall4062
    @gregoryhall4062 Час назад

    Best "how" yet

  • @gavinadams4572
    @gavinadams4572 Час назад

    just got the skaventide box set and just wow,games workshop have created their best models ever in the age of sigmar line but 40k seems to be less inspired recently,horus heresy models are great though.

  • @kurkilles
    @kurkilles 58 минут назад

    I've started hobby about two months ago, and hedonites spearhead was my first choice. Boy, they look not good after my assembly and painting

  • @sih4143
    @sih4143 13 минут назад

    Not to worry they will just add more or larger tactical rocks to allow more posability.

  • @martinmountford1981
    @martinmountford1981 Час назад +1

    Well it's not a matter of effort in 40k I imagine it's more of a matter of artistic restrictions and rules the designers have to follow.

    • @cbjewelz
      @cbjewelz Час назад

      Yea but if that’s the reason, the restrictions don’t make any sense, eg “give them tiny wings and remove all individuality and gothic flair”

    • @Retrosicotte
      @Retrosicotte Час назад

      That doesn't make any sense though. 40k has looked good for decades, and recently is getting a crapton of very bad models. Nothing wrong with the art style.

  • @efenex8303
    @efenex8303 2 часа назад +1

    Wooo EOB!

  • @thenapalmbrothershq5585
    @thenapalmbrothershq5585 Час назад

    Simplified but complex and boring was the phrase I think.

  • @RealmDesigner
    @RealmDesigner 2 часа назад

    MinIAtures! lol Love the channel, but the way you pronounce this is wild :D

  • @raulquinones6192
    @raulquinones6192 Час назад

    Fantastic

  • @heromedley
    @heromedley 21 минуту назад

    you should look into the engineering that goes into making gundam model kits. really makes GW look like a bunch of children.

  • @dr.sommercamp3435
    @dr.sommercamp3435 Час назад

    I think, sculpring a new unit for the many weird age of sigmar armies, or necromunda, or kill team is just more fun and interessting then the fifth Iteration of a boring space marine, sorry!

  • @filipzietek5146
    @filipzietek5146 39 минут назад +1

    Viking elements like those horse heads make 0 sense for squats who are miners, it's sto offputing and lazy (dwarf=viking) to me that i hate the votan overall

  • @Damnedlegion40k
    @Damnedlegion40k 2 часа назад

    Add a comment...

  • @namshimaru
    @namshimaru 2 часа назад

    Paint video

  • @mikeg9516
    @mikeg9516 Час назад

    Le epic

  • @Rad_Pug
    @Rad_Pug Час назад

    Not a big fan of the top.

  • @robertsnook7443
    @robertsnook7443 2 часа назад +1

    First

  • @e_m_met
    @e_m_met 2 часа назад +4

    Crimson Fists next, please.