That approach is viable for most history tbh See precolonial America and Africa, also Europe itself Human beings are inherently rather unreliable at writing history, especially about cultures and places they are not familiar with
@daerok8913 it was one of the most densely populated places on earth and still is. 40,000 sacrifices a year isn't out of the question for the Aztec. As for stories about other native peoples, they may have been exaggerated. But the Aztec "sacrifice" was basically just raiding and executing massive amounts of people and using it as a political show. It's quite like the Assyrians and the Aztec do appear by all accounts, including that of their other Nahua neighbors that they were blood thirsty imperialist operating a lot like the Assyrians did, using excessive brutality as a internal and external political tactic. Yeah they made it religious to some extent, but that's an afterthought, it's little different than Tamerlanes pyramids of skulls or the soviet genocide of people's like the Kazakhs and Ukrainians
Everyone knows that the byzantine flag is the mosaic of Justinian with the purple Basil II borders in the background with a Chi-Rho with "Byzantine Empire" written on it
Hi, as an italian i would like to add some more informations about how western europeans saw the byzantine/roman flags. Both the cities of Messina and Ancona claim that their city flag was a gift from the byzantine/roman emperors (ancona's flag was modified in the later centuries, but before that it used to be the same as messina: a golden cross on a red field). If you look at the western armorials, they claim that originally the imperial arms of byzantium was a simple golden cross on a red field (so like the 4 betas CoA without any of the betas). Maybe there is some kind of connection between the 2? No idea, but since you look like you have studied a lot for this video, maybe you have seen some other uses of a simple gold cross on a red field.
Indeed the usage of flags as national symbols became spread in the Renaissance, not just by popularizing army banners but also due to the increasing international shipping business. Initially these banners were often "private", in the sense of being based on artistocratic family heraldry but then as kingdoms became more centralized and more organized they switched to national flags rather than private banners. The Eastern Roman Empire, as the continuation of the Roman Empire, was an early adopter of "neutral Imperial insignia", in the sense of them being Imperial and not just dynastic (i.e. of the ruling family). However, and since we talk of a period that last a full millenium they had evolved and changed their emblems numerous times, with the cross being a standard feature. Said this, the Eastern Romans were using emblems for many other usages, including for professional syndicates (which resembled freemasonry-style organisations - in fact freemasonry was derived by the mason's guild, which was built after copying the Eastern Roman professional guilds). Also aristocratic families had their own family emblems as well. Fun fact : the Doukes clan, who provided only one short lived Emperor but were heavily intermarried with the Komnenians (hence the term "Komnenodoukes"), had a family emblem which was.... a white cross on a blue background (!!!) This was the flag of choice of the Greek rebels back in 1821, though they had initially used one with the colours inverted for lack of blue cloth (which was one of the more expensive and difficult to acquire). I sincerely doubt that they knew the flag they designed had actually existed in the Middle Ages as the family insignia of the Doukes clan - and it is not that the Doukes clan were any highly-praised family in Greek history, they were rather seen as traitors! LOL! But the mere fact that the flag, be it simplistic, re-appeared shows some "genetic memory" there! To be noted, the current Greek flag with the stripes was the nautical flag, used in the navy which in 1974 was established as the only flag replacing the "land army one" as the only official one. All flags with stripes are basically nautical flags in essence, they were designed as such in order to look good even when the sea winds had torn apart the fabric - the wind would tear the stripe joings and hence the flag would still look good with its emblem protected in the corner.
@@Midgard458 It's a genre of youtube music videos where modern songs are played with classical instruments / a more "medieval" vibe. Example: ruclips.net/video/3okjFDo2aSU/видео.htmlsi=wypwlDLi8h5lpt2Z
I doubt it’s the same bright pink that is used and typically thought of in the modern day. It probably would’ve been more muted to the point where it could be mistaken for purple.
It would be interesting if the author of this channel makes a video about the real King Arthur Pendragon. Many historians believe that the basis for the mythical Arthur was the King of Gwent, Atruis ap Meurig, and his wife, known as Gwenhwyfar verkh Gwythyr, became the prototype of Guinevere. It is known that he lived in the 7th century, but the mythical King Arthur Pendragon lived in the 6th century. Historians explain this by the fact that the mythical King Arthur is often confused with the prototype of the wizard Merlin, who was (Ambrose Aurelian). I am sure that many will be interested in seeing a video about the real King Arthur!
In the museum for the fall of Constantinople in today's Turkey there is a Byzantine war banner. It is white with a blue cross (like the first Greek flag in 1821) and has Saint George with the dragon in the middle 🙄
I didn't know ERE banners had dice symbols on them! 😲 Also thank you for sharing! I was honestly curious about this as well. I'm also of the opinion that those "B"s could very well be the initial of the Basil Emperors.
I think the Skylitzes flag should be looked at again, he died in Norman Sicily but if I recall correctly he was Byzantine official in his life and thus had a intimate familiarity with the flags used.
Minute 5:00, it also inspired the Romano-Britons who then added it to their folklore making the Welsh Dragon on the Welsh National Flag, which also inspired in its turn the anglo-saxon Dragon
Fascinating stuff. At the end, when he goes through the different flags appropriate for different periods, each of them represents an amount of time equal to how long the US has existed. It really places the longevity of the Empire in context.
Those are four battle axes of the eastern type called tabar. tabarzin, topor, tapar etc. horseman's saddle axe with crescent blade. There are similar medieval flags and coat of arms at the Balkans as well, copies of the Byzantine insignia, with four crescent bladed axes.
Amazing video! Seeing a group of “axe wielding barbarians” flank the emperor in the procession was brilliant. Would the 4 Betas Cross be the flag or chief flag during the Komnenian era?
No the 4Bs alongside the Double headed Eagle have their widespread adoption dated to sometime during the reign of Andronikos II Palaiologos(1282-1328). It’s only with his reign do we see the symbols become widely used by Byzantium and other states in the area like Trebizond and Epirus.
@@tylerellis9097 got it. I suppose it was a main talking point in the video. that the state was not to fond of heraldry unlike Western European states until much later
wouldnt someone from Norman Sicily be likely to be relitively familiar with Byzantium? they are within each other’s sphere of influence in the Mediterranean and I believe the sicilo-normans of the time were often in conflict as mercenaries or enemies of the Byzantines. Not saying that he necissarily WOULD know what a byzantine flag looked like, or that he didnt make artistic liberties in his depiction, just that a scicilo-norman is far from the least likely to have been aware of eastern roman military paraphenalia
it had numerus banners ,and banners were also very common even in rich families .but not in a way we have national flags today.nationalism is born in 19th century so... but the symbols were the cross and the two headed eagle even back then. and the emperor depicted holding usually a sword and the the globe with cross on it ,this a sign to signify the cosmosystem governance under the will-law of God
So we could say that the Chi Rho can be used as a symbol for the Latin period of the Eastern Roman Empire (4th - 7th c.) and the develion for the proceeding centuries?
Yes on Chi Rho, no on Develion since that specifically refers to the Emperors banner during the Palaiologian era which only became widespread during the reign of Andronikos II Palaiologos
@@tylerellis9097 Yes, but considering the fact that the develion is used under the Greek period of the empire it could be very much used for the entirety of the mid 7th - 15th century. Or maybe the double headed eagle, but just as the video suggest it wasn't really official. But we might could, at least in games.
@@iplyrunescape305 Yeah, the Empire became predominantly greek when the Latin-speaking balkans fell around 630s. Northern Jireček line was the most influential part of the empire, where the Constantinian, Leonid and Justinianian dynasties came from and generals such as Belisarius. Latin fell mostly out of use in the administration after the 7th century due to it being less spoken by the majority of the inhabitants that was Greek.
@@InAeternumRomaMater That logic doesn’t track, the Develion is a device of the post 1204 restored Palaiologan Empire. You can’t lump it with 600 years of the United presack Empire that has a difference in literally every aspect of society including banners. That’s like using the Chi Rho for the Pagan Empire. And the Single Headed Eagle was the primary Animal symbol until the Palaiologians under Andronikos. Even Michal Palaiologos still used Single headed Eagles on imperial designs. It makes no sense to apply double headed eagles pre Palaiologian era when every Byzantine source and surviving silks, seals and stonework depicts single headed eagles before them. For 800 of its 1000 years of existence Byzantium was under a single headed Eagle not double headed. Quite frankly it’s kinda insulting to their civilization and sounds like a lack of knowledge on the Byzantines to suggest the entire “Greek” era can lumped into one. In many ways The Empire of Basil II is more different to Michael Palaiologos’s then Basils Empire is to Constantine’s. Imagine trying to depict the Iconoclast Isaurians with the 4Bs when flags similar to it didn’t even exist yet. Also Latin wasn’t used in Eastern Administration after Justin II because Justinian changed the official language of Roman law to Greek in the Eastern Provinces while keeping it Latin in the west. Hence in a Majority Greek speaking lingua Franca Empire we see Emperors stop issuing edicts in Latin even to the West by the reign of Maurice where Therby after Edicts were sent in Greek and then translated into Latin once arriving in Italy and Africa.
Its good to know that turkey and most of muslim countries took a Constantinople flag (a moon and a star that dates back to the goddess of fertility) for their own flag
Heh, the fictional coat of arms for Alexander the Great being three crowns was a good choice for the guy who came up with it. He was Alexander III afterall and he was also king of Macedon, king of Persia and Pharaoh of Egypt. (and he was _almost_ 33 when he died)
As a speaker of a Romance language, I always thought the stressed syllables of Aquila, Vexillum, Labarum and Flamula were the first ones in each case, as it is in all derived cognates in Portuguese, Spanish, Italian, French, Catalan etc.
The usage of the the firesteels might not be bad and opposed to the letters B btw, burgundy used them to signify the letter B, as their initial, whether or not this was the intention by the Byzantines is different but not impossible
From a purely aesthetic viewpoint I've always liked the look of the chi rho. Also, it is easily the first thing I would think of if someone asked me what icons I would associate with the Eastern Roman Empire.
Another interesting fact is that because Byzantium never adopted feudalism, the lords and nobility didnt have their own Banners like in medieval Europe. Notable ecxeptions are the Julian the apostate that carried a Banner with a golden dragon on purple backround and later afyer the fracture of 1204 the different despotates that arrose had diff banners.
The two-headed eagle is what the church directly linked to the eastern Roman empire retains as their banner to this day. This alone should be answering your question.
I have no doubt about the accuracy of this video, however, the Ottoman Empire embraced the Byzantine (Roman) use of the crescent moon and star for their flags after the conquest of Constantinople in 1453. To this day many nations in the former Ottoman empire territory still have this crescent moon and star emblem in their flag. The Ottomans used this as they wanted to BE the Roman empire, not replace it.
True, the star and the crescent predate the Muslim conquests as local Anatolian symbols (mostly with the crescent placed below the star). It even used to be the emblem of the old Greek city of Byzantium. But in Byzantine imperial iconography it was very rare, so I decided not to include it. I'll give some clarifications on it in a later video.
My theory about the flag, centered around the name is that it a depictication of god. First of all the name Divaellion I believe comes from Diva as in divine whilst ellion comes from ellion, as in helios the sun. In other words sol invictus. In addition with the translation of the tetragram, meaning king of kings (god or jesus) ruling over or helping kings. This makes sense to me due to how religious the romans were
there is no evidence whatsoever that the illustrations in the skylitzes manuscript were made in sicily. it's absurd that that has just become accepted as fact by so many today even though it's a baseless assertion
13th century, this looks a lot like the rise of the Serbian Emperor Dushan who actually controlled the Balkans. Current Serbia also uses the two-headed white eagle and the cross with the four C, two of which are inverted. This symbol has existed much longer than the Roman Empire. It has been present in the region since the Neolithic period among the Vincha civilization. Note that the name Byzantium is used from the 18th or 19th century to replace the real name: Eastern Roman Empire. Byzantine architecture does not exist, Romane architecture is its real name.
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Good to see you here :)
Somehow Romaboo Ramblings returned
no way
welcome back!
Ave Romaboo Ramblings!
Returned from chilling on his Claudian private island
@@christurner6330 the rumors that it was a Tiberian private island are baseless slander
@@RomabooRamblings the false praetorian accuser got fact checked hard another W for the trve romans
Feels like half of Byzantine history is about questioning how reliable the Western European sources are.
That approach is viable for most history tbh
See precolonial America and Africa, also Europe itself
Human beings are inherently rather unreliable at writing history, especially about cultures and places they are not familiar with
@@raicattivothey weren’t wrong about the sacrifices and cannibalism. Still exits to this day in all parts of the world.
@@EmperorOfThePlebs that says far more about what your lack of education than anything implied from what I said ever will
@@daerok8913 yes billions
@daerok8913 it was one of the most densely populated places on earth and still is. 40,000 sacrifices a year isn't out of the question for the Aztec.
As for stories about other native peoples, they may have been exaggerated.
But the Aztec "sacrifice" was basically just raiding and executing massive amounts of people and using it as a political show. It's quite like the Assyrians and the Aztec do appear by all accounts, including that of their other Nahua neighbors that they were blood thirsty imperialist operating a lot like the Assyrians did, using excessive brutality as a internal and external political tactic.
Yeah they made it religious to some extent, but that's an afterthought, it's little different than Tamerlanes pyramids of skulls or the soviet genocide of people's like the Kazakhs and Ukrainians
Everyone knows that the byzantine flag is the mosaic of Justinian with the purple Basil II borders in the background with a Chi-Rho with "Byzantine Empire" written on it
With "Roman Empire" written on it.
Not the full detail. Justinian would be making a creepy smile while having purple laser eyes.
@makutas-v261 if you think iconoclasm was controversial, wait until you see what they have to say about Comic Sans
@makutas-v261 it's made worse by technology amplifying it
You just ruined your comment with the "Byzantine Empire". There was no such thing and they didn't called themselves like that
The Imperator has returned.
Clicked faster than the Palaiologoi's propensity for starting a civil war.
Awww man bro too soon. Legit though after the 1350s, there wasn't even an empire to bounce back anymore.
The bardcore version of the I’m blue song at 8:20 was a nice touch
16:27 "So why would anyone suggest that they are fire-strikers?"
Cuts to Monty Python 😂
After 5 months of silence it's nice to have you back
Hi, as an italian i would like to add some more informations about how western europeans saw the byzantine/roman flags. Both the cities of Messina and Ancona claim that their city flag was a gift from the byzantine/roman emperors (ancona's flag was modified in the later centuries, but before that it used to be the same as messina: a golden cross on a red field). If you look at the western armorials, they claim that originally the imperial arms of byzantium was a simple golden cross on a red field (so like the 4 betas CoA without any of the betas). Maybe there is some kind of connection between the 2? No idea, but since you look like you have studied a lot for this video, maybe you have seen some other uses of a simple gold cross on a red field.
I see what you did at 08:20 there with the Mediaeval version of Blue (Da Ba Dee). Very slick and subtle ;)
Also, welcome back!
Omfg I didn't notice that until this comment and I'm wearing headphones 😂😂
The waiting in between is a small price to pay for the best byzantine content on this site
They saw that barbarian Draco and were like, damn that’s sick, let’s veni vedi vici that shit.
Haven't watched but already know you didn't miss with this 🔥🔥
i missed the toilet when I'm popping
A new video!!! So excited to see another video man!!!
His voice didn't change after all this time
A pack of Camels per day keeps a man's voice rich
Its an AI voice
love how you're using Bannerlord assets bro. From back when you had like 300 subs to now, the best content around.chef's kiss
Best video I've ever seen, answers the question from the title in the first twenty seconds
Indeed the usage of flags as national symbols became spread in the Renaissance, not just by popularizing army banners but also due to the increasing international shipping business. Initially these banners were often "private", in the sense of being based on artistocratic family heraldry but then as kingdoms became more centralized and more organized they switched to national flags rather than private banners. The Eastern Roman Empire, as the continuation of the Roman Empire, was an early adopter of "neutral Imperial insignia", in the sense of them being Imperial and not just dynastic (i.e. of the ruling family). However, and since we talk of a period that last a full millenium they had evolved and changed their emblems numerous times, with the cross being a standard feature. Said this, the Eastern Romans were using emblems for many other usages, including for professional syndicates (which resembled freemasonry-style organisations - in fact freemasonry was derived by the mason's guild, which was built after copying the Eastern Roman professional guilds). Also aristocratic families had their own family emblems as well.
Fun fact : the Doukes clan, who provided only one short lived Emperor but were heavily intermarried with the Komnenians (hence the term "Komnenodoukes"), had a family emblem which was.... a white cross on a blue background (!!!)
This was the flag of choice of the Greek rebels back in 1821, though they had initially used one with the colours inverted for lack of blue cloth (which was one of the more expensive and difficult to acquire). I sincerely doubt that they knew the flag they designed had actually existed in the Middle Ages as the family insignia of the Doukes clan - and it is not that the Doukes clan were any highly-praised family in Greek history, they were rather seen as traitors! LOL! But the mere fact that the flag, be it simplistic, re-appeared shows some "genetic memory" there!
To be noted, the current Greek flag with the stripes was the nautical flag, used in the navy which in 1974 was established as the only flag replacing the "land army one" as the only official one. All flags with stripes are basically nautical flags in essence, they were designed as such in order to look good even when the sea winds had torn apart the fabric - the wind would tear the stripe joings and hence the flag would still look good with its emblem protected in the corner.
Welcome back.
Excellent working with the medieval sources, it must have been a lot of effort to look up all those 14th century Italian maps
the 3d models and animations of the banners/standards in this video were very good, i hope you do more of these
we are so back
That bardcore rendition of Eiffel 65's 'Blue' during the flag segment sent me on a nostalgic trip.
One of my favorite songs.
What does Bardcore mean?
@@Midgard458 It's a genre of youtube music videos where modern songs are played with classical instruments / a more "medieval" vibe.
Example: ruclips.net/video/3okjFDo2aSU/видео.htmlsi=wypwlDLi8h5lpt2Z
This is actually something I've wondered about for a while, thank you for the video!
Great video bro 👍🏽
Love you and this channel. God bless you.
‘Even pink coloured flags’
*shows purple*
Gimme that baby pink man, you know you want to. I want pink byzantines in more art.
We all know pink is the colour of the Parthians.
@@al_maestrale Pajama boyz
Eastern Roman*
I got that reference!@@al_maestrale
I doubt it’s the same bright pink that is used and typically thought of in the modern day. It probably would’ve been more muted to the point where it could be mistaken for purple.
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Another excellent video!
Glad to see the new vid
It would be interesting if the author of this channel makes a video about the real King Arthur Pendragon. Many historians believe that the basis for the mythical Arthur was the King of Gwent, Atruis ap Meurig, and his wife, known as Gwenhwyfar verkh Gwythyr, became the prototype of Guinevere. It is known that he lived in the 7th century, but the mythical King Arthur Pendragon lived in the 6th century. Historians explain this by the fact that the mythical King Arthur is often confused with the prototype of the wizard Merlin, who was (Ambrose Aurelian). I am sure that many will be interested in seeing a video about the real King Arthur!
What video game are the models of soldiers from?
@@karimmezghiche9921 Mount and Blade 2: Bannerlord
In the museum for the fall of Constantinople in today's Turkey there is a Byzantine war banner. It is white with a blue cross (like the first Greek flag in 1821) and has Saint George with the dragon in the middle 🙄
Amazing animations. Congrats!
the basileus returns
I was just thinking about bro returning yesterday, and he did!
My brother in Christ here has special powers 😮.
"Yer a Wizar Harry" 😂.
@@AaronDarkus No powers here, probably just a good coincidence 🤣
The medeival "I'm blue" background is so good
I didn't know ERE banners had dice symbols on them! 😲
Also thank you for sharing! I was honestly curious about this as well.
I'm also of the opinion that those "B"s could very well be the initial of the Basil Emperors.
Did I hear “I’m blue” playing in the background, or am I crazy? 9:02
@@TheBjangles yes, indeed. It's from a channel called Cornelius Link, check him out
I think the Skylitzes flag should be looked at again, he died in Norman Sicily but if I recall correctly he was Byzantine official in his life and thus had a intimate familiarity with the flags used.
Thats the author, not the illustrator
@@RomabooRamblings
Good point, didn't think of that
Thank you. Really instructive
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Are you the same guy who shilled himself on /his/ some years ago? lol
A solid channel you've got, very enjoyable vids : )
no, I'm not on 4chan
Thanks for the appreciation, though
Good video, I'll make sure to mention this video when proposing a flag for Byzanthium in Eu5 as soon as we get a "tinto flag" review of sorts
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8:15 Pink Byzantines from Medieval 2 were canon after all...
5:23
There is a typo in the Greek word, flamoulon. The penultimate letter must be omicron, not omega. ΦΛΑΜΟΥΛΟΝ
Great Video!
We missed you!
Minute 5:00, it also inspired the Romano-Britons who then added it to their folklore making the Welsh Dragon on the Welsh National Flag, which also inspired in its turn the anglo-saxon Dragon
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Fascinating stuff. At the end, when he goes through the different flags appropriate for different periods, each of them represents an amount of time equal to how long the US has existed. It really places the longevity of the Empire in context.
Good video.
i pooped while watching this
Those are four battle axes of the eastern type called tabar. tabarzin, topor, tapar etc. horseman's saddle axe with crescent blade.
There are similar medieval flags and coat of arms at the Balkans as well, copies of the Byzantine insignia, with four crescent bladed axes.
Was that medieval "i'm blue"?
Yep, thanks to the guy called Cornelius Link. Go check him out!
Romaboo returned as a vexiliogist
It is really interesting how much the Latin west poisoned the well so badly on the east.
Well… medieval states didn’t have official “flags” necessarily, but they had heraldic banners, at least since the 2nd crusade.
What’s about the crescent moon and star emblem of Konstantinopole?
Amazing video! Seeing a group of “axe wielding barbarians” flank the emperor in the procession was brilliant. Would the 4 Betas Cross be the flag or chief flag during the Komnenian era?
No the 4Bs alongside the Double headed Eagle have their widespread adoption dated to sometime during the reign of Andronikos II Palaiologos(1282-1328). It’s only with his reign do we see the symbols become widely used by Byzantium and other states in the area like Trebizond and Epirus.
@@tylerellis9097 got it. I suppose it was a main talking point in the video. that the state was not to fond of heraldry unlike Western European states until much later
wouldnt someone from Norman Sicily be likely to be relitively familiar with Byzantium? they are within each other’s sphere of influence in the Mediterranean and I believe the sicilo-normans of the time were often in conflict as mercenaries or enemies of the Byzantines.
Not saying that he necissarily WOULD know what a byzantine flag looked like, or that he didnt make artistic liberties in his depiction, just that a scicilo-norman is far from the least likely to have been aware of eastern roman military paraphenalia
it had numerus banners ,and banners were also very common even in rich families .but not in a way we have national flags today.nationalism is born in 19th century so...
but the symbols were the cross and the two headed eagle even back then.
and the emperor depicted holding usually a sword and the the globe with cross on it ,this a sign to signify the cosmosystem governance under the will-law of God
So we could say that the Chi Rho can be used as a symbol for the Latin period of the Eastern Roman Empire (4th - 7th c.) and the develion for the proceeding centuries?
Yes on Chi Rho, no on Develion since that specifically refers to the Emperors banner during the Palaiologian era which only became widespread during the reign of Andronikos II Palaiologos
Latin period?
@@tylerellis9097 Yes, but considering the fact that the develion is used under the Greek period of the empire it could be very much used for the entirety of the mid 7th - 15th century. Or maybe the double headed eagle, but just as the video suggest it wasn't really official. But we might could, at least in games.
@@iplyrunescape305 Yeah, the Empire became predominantly greek when the Latin-speaking balkans fell around 630s. Northern Jireček line was the most influential part of the empire, where the Constantinian, Leonid and Justinianian dynasties came from and generals such as Belisarius. Latin fell mostly out of use in the administration after the 7th century due to it being less spoken by the majority of the inhabitants that was Greek.
@@InAeternumRomaMater That logic doesn’t track, the Develion is a device of the post 1204 restored Palaiologan Empire. You can’t lump it with 600 years of the United presack Empire that has a difference in literally every aspect of society including banners. That’s like using the Chi Rho for the Pagan Empire.
And the Single Headed Eagle was the primary Animal symbol until the Palaiologians under Andronikos. Even Michal Palaiologos still used Single headed Eagles on imperial designs. It makes no sense to apply double headed eagles pre Palaiologian era when every Byzantine source and surviving silks, seals and stonework depicts single headed eagles before them. For 800 of its 1000 years of existence Byzantium was under a single headed Eagle not double headed.
Quite frankly it’s kinda insulting to their civilization and sounds like a lack of knowledge on the Byzantines to suggest the entire “Greek” era can lumped into one. In many ways The Empire of Basil II is more different to Michael Palaiologos’s then Basils Empire is to Constantine’s.
Imagine trying to depict the Iconoclast Isaurians with the 4Bs when flags similar to it didn’t even exist yet.
Also Latin wasn’t used in Eastern Administration after Justin II because Justinian changed the official language of Roman law to Greek in the Eastern Provinces while keeping it Latin in the west. Hence in a Majority Greek speaking lingua Franca Empire we see Emperors stop issuing edicts in Latin even to the West by the reign of Maurice where Therby after Edicts were sent in Greek and then translated into Latin once arriving in Italy and Africa.
So surprisingly the internet pop-history understanding is basically correct?
poop history
It’s sort of like the bell curve meme.
For the last 200 years post 4th Crusase basically, yeah
Its good to know that turkey and most of muslim countries took a Constantinople flag (a moon and a star that dates back to the goddess of fertility) for their own flag
Heh, the fictional coat of arms for Alexander the Great being three crowns was a good choice for the guy who came up with it. He was Alexander III afterall and he was also king of Macedon, king of Persia and Pharaoh of Egypt. (and he was _almost_ 33 when he died)
As a speaker of a Romance language, I always thought the stressed syllables of Aquila, Vexillum, Labarum and Flamula were the first ones in each case, as it is in all derived cognates in Portuguese, Spanish, Italian, French, Catalan etc.
Did Sassanid have a flag? Is that so? Did the Guptas have flags?
For the sassanids by far the closest thing to a flag would be the Derafsh Kaviani.
16:00 I never expected a tongue twister
The usage of the the firesteels might not be bad and opposed to the letters B btw, burgundy used them to signify the letter B, as their initial, whether or not this was the intention by the Byzantines is different but not impossible
they used fire steels to help me poop
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From a purely aesthetic viewpoint I've always liked the look of the chi rho. Also, it is easily the first thing I would think of if someone asked me what icons I would associate with the Eastern Roman Empire.
Loooool. My reddit post made it into a yt video! XD
Annoying people on r/Vexillology really was a hobby of mine for a while
very interesting video
Labaro (actually lavaro) means banner in greek
Came to learn about the Byzantine flag, stayed for all the lowkey jokes
Another interesting fact is that because Byzantium never adopted feudalism, the lords and nobility didnt have their own Banners like in medieval Europe. Notable ecxeptions are the Julian the apostate that carried a Banner with a golden dragon on purple backround and later afyer the fracture of 1204 the different despotates that arrose had diff banners.
The two-headed eagle is what the church directly linked to the eastern Roman empire retains as their banner to this day. This alone should be answering your question.
12:28 Bro caught me off guard with this 💀💀💀💀💀
Bro please upload more 😢
@Aleksis.S I will
The tetragrammaton-flag could be reused by a certain subgroup within western societies, which shares some psychical characteristics.
I have no doubt about the accuracy of this video, however, the Ottoman Empire embraced the Byzantine (Roman) use of the crescent moon and star for their flags after the conquest of Constantinople in 1453. To this day many nations in the former Ottoman empire territory still have this crescent moon and star emblem in their flag. The Ottomans used this as they wanted to BE the Roman empire, not replace it.
True, the star and the crescent predate the Muslim conquests as local Anatolian symbols (mostly with the crescent placed below the star). It even used to be the emblem of the old Greek city of Byzantium. But in Byzantine imperial iconography it was very rare, so I decided not to include it. I'll give some clarifications on it in a later video.
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4:47 this is the link to Valyria, the Rome of GoT 😅
Love it :) I had no idea that the Romans used dragons but that just makes em even more based ngl
Mother of the Verb? Never heard that before. I know what it means of course, but I've never encountered it even in old texts.
nice visuals
My theory about the flag, centered around the name is that it a depictication of god. First of all the name Divaellion I believe comes from Diva as in divine whilst ellion comes from ellion, as in helios the sun. In other words sol invictus. In addition with the translation of the tetragram, meaning king of kings (god or jesus) ruling over or helping kings. This makes sense to me due to how religious the romans were
there is no evidence whatsoever that the illustrations in the skylitzes manuscript were made in sicily. it's absurd that that has just become accepted as fact by so many today even though it's a baseless assertion
It’s a shame that purple dye was expensive because it would’ve been cool if the Byzantines actually did use purple as their “state color.”
Nah having the continued millennias long color of Rome is more based.
13th century, this looks a lot like the rise of the Serbian Emperor Dushan who actually controlled the Balkans. Current Serbia also uses the two-headed white eagle and the cross with the four C, two of which are inverted. This symbol has existed much longer than the Roman Empire. It has been present in the region since the Neolithic period among the Vincha civilization.
Note that the name Byzantium is used from the 18th or 19th century to replace the real name: Eastern Roman Empire. Byzantine architecture does not exist, Romane architecture is its real name.
Legend
6:30 why did you say "Mother of the verb"? was that on purpose, or just a bad translation of "logou"?
"Um, actually there was no Byzantine, it was always Eastern Roman Empire" 🤓
(Uno reverse card )
No flag, no country. That's the rule I just made up.
I took a tour in Mykonos and my guide said the B’s were for Byzantium 😢. I want my money back 😂
Magister
OH HELL YEAH HE AINT DEAD
''The Greek Empire'' 💀
Cry about it