Steve Nicol calls Pep Guardiola 'SO PRICKLY' 🗣️ Will Alvarez & De Bruyne stay at Man City? | ESPN FC
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Frank Leboeuf, Mark Ogden and Steve Nicol join Dan Thomas on ESPN FC to discuss Julian Alvarez and Kevin De Bruyne's futures with Manchester City and react to Pep Guardiola's comments on both players.
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As frustrating and unprofessional as it can be to watch Dan constantly interrupt panelists, he’s spot on when it comes to Alvarez. The fact that Stevie does not appear to actually realize Alvarez is second fiddle to the likes of Haaland, De Bruyne, Foden, etc is head scratching. The reason why Alvarez played so many minutes last season is because De Bruyne was out for more than half the season and Haaland was out for two months. He’s a very good player but Pep prefers other players over him as first choice locked in starters. It makes complete logical sense that Alvarez would be interested in leaving for a club where he’s the full time starter up top. How Stevie doesn’t comprehend that is mind boggling.
He does comprehend that. But Alvarez will get more chances as De Bruyne gets older and will be leaving soon. He’s just saying give it one more year.
Haaland and KDB can't start all the games. City could play over 70 games next season. Lots of games to go around. Alvarez could be the man in the champions league and Haaland the man in the EPL. No one knows what Pep has planned. He always surprises.
@@LtDangle911 no, he won't. Alvarez is not an attacking midfielder, that it's not the role he wants and City have been linked with multiple replacements for KDB, theyve even said Musiala is one of their top targets next season and that is why they are not spending much money in this transfer window
@@AndreeM19 i’m just explaining Stevie‘s argument you can take it up with him lol time will tell
Tbh Alvarez should have seen this coming. It literally happened to Jesus
Stevie being Stevie. Dan being Dan. I’m with Dan here though.
Ofcourse, you are a rival. what you are saying is not special.
I'm with stevie. He is in a good team and he is getting games.
@@myp0h the reason he's getting games is the problem
Stevie is speaking like Álvarez is a youth player. He's 24 now.
@@BabsW so what? He needs to leave to get games? No one played more for city last season. He's saying that if this coming season Alvarez finds his gametime limited, and we don't know that we will yet, then next season is the time to leave. Not after a season when you were just the man and played more than everyone else. You think leaving City is the answer to anything except how to dissappear real quick? Ask Sterling?
@@derchisman007Yeah, it makes sense that a 24 year old player who’s too good to be on the bench wants to leave for more paying time. Objectively speaking, any honest city fan would understand this..
@@derchisman007 He played matches due to injuries, not because he was 1st choice. When Haaland and De Bruyne were fit for the biggest matches, Álvarez didn't start. Did you actually watch this video?
The previous shows the panel concluded Alvarez doesn’t get game time, now they're admitting the fact that it's the opposite. Literally everything about City in the media is conspiracy theories 😂
You have little understanding of what they’re saying. Everyone agrees he gets game time, but because others are injured. What they’re saying is he won’t get that many game time if everyone is fit, so he will be a sub player or wait for others to get injured to start games
@@MrBow2dking why they're admitting it now is because the journalist said it loud and clear to Pep, go look up their previous shows then come back to this. Most theories about City is mere speculations because people look for negatives
are you deaf?
@@MrBow2dkingyes sure. Haaland and KDB will certainly start 75 games next season. There is no chance of Alvarez getting much game time. Right?? He will just have to sit on the bench and learn some voodoo to try to curse one of them with an injury so he can get on the pitch for a few mins. Right?? Right???
@@derchisman007 the problem is he doesn’t want some game time, he wants to be a guaranteed starter in all important games which he isn’t at man city. It’s not that difficult to understand.
This why you can’t have only great players in the team. He is not good enough to replace Halaand but he is too good to be on the bench. I’m Real Madrid fan Rodrygoes will behave the same issues next year.
Haaland is inferior to Alvarez. Haaland is a poacher who struggles when opposition boxes him.
What is this? Stevie forgot to take his fish oil last night. He starts to argue about something and by the end of it he's talking about something else entirely.
He was talking about De Bruyne leaving at the end. Not Alvarez. That’s fits with the same argument he was making earlier. If De Bruyne leaves, all the more reason Alvarez should stay. According to Stevie
😂
Fish oil??? 😂 dead ☠️
Alvarez is going to Arsenal
Bro forget his medicine 💊
Stevie makes no sense
He's won everything
He has the right to search for a team where he can start and be a main figure in the squad
He's too good to be a bench player
For me Stevie never makes sense LOL !
I am afraid Stevie has a point. No one knows what Pep will do. As a guy who has tried to put man city players in his fantasy teams for years, trust me when I say Pep is crazy. What you think will happen, almost certainly won't. So Alverez could play with KDB and Haaland. He could even start for a time over them. Pep himself probably doesn't know right now.
@@derchisman007yeah but city 🌃 got many Jeslous Haters due to 10 years of Dominating the PL and English Soccer ⚽️
Finding a team to be the "main figure" of is easy, finding a team that can Challenge or Win things whilst Alvarez still being the Main Man, which he actually hasn't proved yet at City, he's been very good, but nowhere near undroppable, is the difficult part. Firstly, at most Clubs he simply won't get to play more games because those Clubs simply don't play more than 54 games. Secondly, he's proven himself to be the same level of Goalscorer as Gabriel Jesus in the PL so far, and he definitely isn't the "Main Man" that Arsenal will have upfront if they go on to Win anything and that's exactly what Jesus thought he'd be.
you wont be talking rubbish if Pep starts him.
I am so happy with Dan going at Stevie!!! I am so with Dan on this!!!
No. ALVAREZ is not going anywhere.
I know there’s abundance of rags in the media but Ogden & Rob Dawson being the ITK’s on ESPN payroll, it’s just comically bad borderline unprofessional to watch the coverage related to city , Dan inserting narratives cause they have a quota of content time to meet, be better off discussing something else lol
his minutes added up 38.6 games 19 goals 13 assists , lots of hustle
wow with the way ive seen some city fans talk negative about him that's a very impressive return. not far off from foden who won the pfa award
Stevie dug a hole for himself here and just get digging deeper, with a grumpy shovel and a stubborn spade.
Dan was right.
Guardiola always going against the players decisions, but when he don't want them anymore that's fine. Julian is one of the more respectful and humble players by far, and at the end of the day this is no more than a job, he shouldn't take it personal
Any player that is teasing about leaving the club doesn't deserve any humble response, if you want to leave the club, how about you just go talk to the club instead of the media
He’s a racist, he can leave
@@toddg_0.0_ maybe he doesn't want to leave the club, he's just been asked about his future and he said he had to think about it. As every other player do, or do you think it happened different quth KDB, or any expiring contract/offered to be bought player? Denying that is to lie, and Julian ain't no liar.
Exactly, Alvarez is a true Gentleman, that I am most happy about is that he's a baller through and through and a trophy magnet, so anywhere he goes we will win lots of Trophy, as most of us may know Atletico will be the best fit but City don't want to lose him which is why they don't want to sell him for cheap, I see Alvarez staying one more season then leaving going into the 2025-2026 season
I agree with part of Steve's argument, in that he could/should wait a year and if KDB has another injury hit season, Alvarez could improve his situation, but I don't agree with playing players out of position
He's not good enough to play as a creator.
Dan is completely right 😎 Steve is on something, he didnt even remember what he said 10 minutes ago !!! Julian has ever right
to play more and try his luck somewhere else. Dont want him to leave but he has the confidence and experience to ask to leave if he wants to.
who cares about your talentless opinions? be right all you want, goodluck in the carabao cup. nothing else for you to win.
Going forward, Alvarez starts ahead of KDB. KDB is starting to show his decline... Just a fact. Start Alvarez or lose him. Pep may not be there long term, Alvarez has to think about his future after winning everything.
Kdb starts to decline it seems . What a clueless moron . He had 17 assists in 26 matches and was 3 rd most assists in PL where as others played 40 plus games 😂
He’s not that good lol, he got 19 goals in 50 games. That’s good to stay at the bench.
@@Ishankk because he didn't start half of those games and 19 goals in 50 games is bad well what do you want him to do? He isn't Messi or Ronaldo who can score 50 goals in 50 goals and city doesn't play with the mind set of just one guy scoring and if you think that Alvarez is not that good of a player than you should leave football before the football leaves you
@@Ishankk what was Fodens return his second year in the team? A starters roll is very different. He was not used in those 50 games as the main goal scoring threat. You realize he is not a winger or a center forward. Also, did he make the team worse when he played?
@@mrpk1719 Messi. Ronaldo? What? Haaland had those numbers. Mbappe. Kane. Sorry but those numbers aren’t good enough for someone who’s a starter at a team that’s a ucl contender. He’s deluded by the fact that he was carried by the starters.
so stupid arguing. KDB is going to leave, so Alverez should stay and learn all that from him. He can only learn from better players and City has Rodri and KDB, the best midfielders. After KDB, Alverez can play every single game for 90 minutes. Thing is... did he score in the under 23 Olympics. NOPE. He is not as good as he thinks.
My prediction: KDB will stay Alvarez is leaving and City will be found guilty on 7 Charges out of 115
Everyone said we'll be guilty for the Uefa case but were all wrong, the more you say it doesn't make it true..lol
Thanks, law expert 👍
Everyone said we'll be guilty for the Uefa case but were all wrong, the more you said it doesn't make it true..lol
They actually were part guilty but just had to pay a fine.. and UEFA couldn’t back so many years . Just saying not saying they’re guilty .. ‘but there’s more to this case
@@Spygoalexactly since @davidregal wants to act ignorant about the whole case
Give the guy a break. Alvarez just played the Copa America and is now playing in the Olympics. He’s not focused on club football right now.
All these pundits (Mark Ogden in particular because he is a red)are desperate to get as many players away from City as they can. Very few actually leave. Bernardo Silva has been leaving for about five years and yet he is still there. City is a well run club that generally treats it's players well and pays them well. Stevie, Bernardo Silva is NOT old ! He is coming into his prime at 28.
I mean stats wise and eye test tell you he probably should be starting all the big games, not when people are injured or for squad rotation. I don't blame Alvarez at all. Everyone who wants to win and be a factor in winning would not settle for his current situation. Hard to say if he will ever get that role within City though as Pep clearly fancy's others before him for whatever reasons.
He didn't even start against Real Madrid when KDB was sick. They used him as his substitute for half a season but as soon as an important game arrived and he could've had a chance, Pep chose someone else
Guys...When Kevin feels he wana leave..Pep says openly he doesnt want him to go...If Alvarez is thinking..Pep says ..if he wanna leave its okay...Meaning..Pep wants to use Alvarez ..Alvarez needs to think about himself ..too😊
I think the kid being by a world champion and all is showing pretty good attitude about being on the bench all these years
He played a lot of games, so why say he was on the bench?
@@myp0h because he's not the no. 1 choice haaland is and Alvarez wants to be in a locker room where he is picked no.1 and that's a good sign that despite winning everything there is to win Alvarez still has hunger in him to keep moving forward keeping playing and winning he wants to play more
If De Bruyne did leave Guardiola would sign an expensive replacement and Alvarez would be no better off
I enjoy Stevie but what a stubborn old goat he can be
Not having a brain doesn’t help 😊
Pep said: Yeah the little brat is thinking... let him think.
Salí de ahí Julián q se hunde el barcooo 😅
Alvarez would complete Liverpool front line.. deadly finisher
200 million pounds and add ons.
Nah i think he should go to Arsenal as they need a striker
barcelona is perfect for alvarez argentina legacy at barca continues with him
@@mrpk1719 😂😂😂Jesus not far from Alvarez he just needs to stay fit
@@MarcelMatani broke joke club
Steve is right, there will use him to replace Ederson when he goes to Saudi
Remember Dimtri Payet, Neymar, Sterling, Coutinho?. A wrong move at the wrong time can cost a player his career. I'm with Stevie on this one.
Some players aren't cut out to be poster boys and leaving City might be the end of him getting silverware
Even as a city fan I understand where Alvarez is coming from and the door is open for any player if they feel this way.
Even if I don't want him to leave.
But all I'm going to say is the sun isn't always brighter elsewhere. Especially at Atletico Madrid, Barca, PSG or any other PL club etc
Look what happened to Neymar…..
Sorry Stevie, I'm with Dan this time.
Alvarez surely won't start the first game now. He hasn't pulled up any trees in the olympics either.
Ogden spitting his city hate as a United fan 😂clueless clown
these two argued for 5 minutes straight as the screen kept panning back to frank and mark lol
“Pickily I like that word”
Prickly
He was trying to say prickly😅
Julian Alvarez is at the pick of his fantastic career and he should actually be the main man upfront in any other team in the world.
He played a lot of matches. In my opinion (which doesn’t matter really), He is one of the reason City had a mid season. His ball control is so poor, I won’t even talk about his decision-making under pressure.
Miles ahead of Haaland.
@@critical_analysisHe's not.
@@critical_analysis nope
If KDB leaves the club. It is 100% gurantee that there will be a new club crowned champion of Premier league
lol okay
🤡- "100% guarantee (because I bought a crystal ball off of ebay)".
Alvarez said he doesnt wanna leave he was just analyzing his past season.
But at least they have Kalvin Phillips
Have a day off
After all these years in the business, I'd have thought Dan would know by now that constantly talking over someone does not make for enjoyable viewing /listening.
@@LordHighness neither does listening to vacuous opinions with no basis whatsoever. ESPN can do better than that.
Ogden is a terrible journalist. Mbappe wanted to play at the Olympics, but Real Madrid didn't allow him.
You heard that somewhere from some pundit in the sports media so it must be true, and therefore you have better information than a journalist. Obviously Ogden should just sit watching sports media and get all his info from there so he can be more like you, the guy who knows it all.
@@LordHighness Thiery Henry confirmed weeks ago
Mark is spot on and Alvarez has done it all and can't continue to be squad player. And Mark is also spot on that Pep is frustrated. Steve is wrong and his thoughts don't make sense at all
I see Stevie's point but Dan is correct. Alvarez could wait another year and hope that KDB moves on, giving him a shot in the first team. But, when KDB leaves, I think City will go for a proper 10 like Wirtz or Musiala and Alvarez will stay second choice to Halaand, Foden, and whoever the new guy is. Good on him for showing ambition and wanting to leave; too many players will be happy to sit on the bench while collecting a paycheck.
City are signing players to fill the positions Steve mentioned. That's why Alvarez won't get any more starts. They've got Doku, they've signed Savinho. They'll do the same to replace De Bruyne and Silva. Alvarez is gone.
It is hard to be striker in todays game, when 90% of teams play with only one striker.
Being the “man” at a club that does not fit is pointless. Why leave a good situation with a good manager and good players? He has time to develop before he makes that move to being the guy. What team is Alvarez going to go to at this time that will be good for him?
Pep bought him & brought him to city. Alvarez is not bothered about pep & not reminiscing the fact pep did so much for him.. but then again pep got the gift to replace players suited to city way of playing...
Its a squad game!
He played more mins than anyone else.
I like the arguments, it's so genuine.
He’s about to warm the bench now 😂
You don’t challenge Pep, Boy. Especially through the media
If I'm not mistaken, Pep's got a year left on his contract. That's a factor
Problem is Alvarez thinks he’s a star when he’s not. He’s a solid player. He ain’t nothing special.
He is, you havent watched him play as striker, he has world cup goals on his debut, he is a complete forward, he is better than every young forward and better than haaland in build up play, you only watch city where he was played out of his position most of the times, you need game time a no.9 to truly develop, he'll be a star in most top european clubs and yeah city is going down the drain sooner than later
I don't look at Alvarez and think, OMG, that guy is such an unbelievable player. Winning those trophies is just a consequence of playing in the best teams currently in world football, both for club and country. He's dispensable. If he wants to go, let him go. He won't be missed.
Cole Palmer is the perfect example. Had he stayed at City his profile wouldn’t have risen. Cole Palmer doesn’t have Alvarez cv
Alveres should Go he deserves to be the main man! He should go to Spain Barcelona or Atlantico
Dan is brilliant and spot on. I don't know what Stevie is smoking but I want some of that
Arsenal need to go in for Alvarez
What is Dan on about, De Bruyne and Alvarez are in no way positionally comparable, ones existence doesn't limit the other's. Alvarez is either a wide forward or a number nine and De Bruyne is an attacking midfielder, in his final year of contract and will likely move on in 2025. What's the point in this discussion, other than Alvarez needs to up his game and Pep needs to replace Kevin De Bruyne?
To help Stevie's argument, Alvarez could still start next to Haaland in a striker partnership in 4-1-3-2 system. We don't know yet. I get Dan's argument too.
Bro they brought in a right wing fielder from Girona. So even more people to compete with and the Brazilian is probably ahead of him becuz he is more natural in that position.
Tony with Alvarez ,Jesus at arsenal would be deadly
So according to steive if halend playing striker, deburyna starting, alvarej instead of silva at right, and doku at left than where is foden playing😅
Haha love Franks expression!
Not only KDB leaving next year but pep also might leave.
He should probably stay at Man City for 1 more year and see what happens with Pep next year. Atletico is a "loser" mentality team and he won't win anything with Atletico. Even as a bench player, he's won so much with Man City, and at the end of the day, that's what really counts at the end of his career. Just look at Harry Kane. Now, if he was going to Real Madrid, that might be a different story worth exploring.
Prickly is what Stevie tells his barber
Alvarez will leave only of club offer excess of 80 million, which is not happening this summer so he is not leaving, with kev it is almost certain he leave for free next season this united fan mark odgan absolutely lost his marvel to think city sell him for 20-30 million
I hate it when Dan constantly talks over people, all to heat up the conversation, and in the end losing the substance.
The best duo on this show 😂😂
Ortega wasn’t happy in city because of pep benching him and was happy hearing Edison leaving now pep wants Edison to stay 😂
Firstly I cant see De Bruyne being fit for all 4 competitions this season. Secondly would Alvarez be so vocal if he was with the Man City camp right now? Third - How about getting in the team and giving the manager no option to drop you with 10/10 100% performances.
It seems the International double he has won has gone to his head. He is under contract so he needs to keep it private and put in a transfer request.
Bruh why you pundits making this a big situation out of the two individuals did any of them said anything wrong?
For "luck" alone Man City should keep Alvarez
Alvarez needs to move from City at this point. He needs go somewhere else where he will get more importance, get valued and improve his performance as well.
He didn’t even say he wants to leave or anything where are yall pulling these statements from
He just said it yesterday after their Olympics game that he wants to play more at club level and not left out on important matches so he will think about his future.
Pep is jus salty cos his daughter is on to the boy 💀🤣🤣
Time for Alvarez to choose a better option than Man City. Real Madrid, Leverkusen, Chelsea, Atletico Madrid are all great options for him
Madrid would be the same situation as City regarding playing minutes in important matches, the rest would work though
tough to watch stevie and Dan
Imagine Alvarez leaves and City decides to bid for Alexander Isak ? 😢
I think Stevie is right,this time....
So does Alverez get the same heat as Sancho or the hatred is only reserve for Man united players.
▪︎ESPN/Establishment - desperate to see City Downfall
▪︎City - meanwhile following up Treble with 4peat,going for 5peat 😂
Fedde Le Grand ft Ida Corr - Let Me Think About It
Alvarez is a second striker. He has to see that himself. He doesn't do well leading the line.
Stevie is becoming Biden right before our own eyes. See starting at 1:45 for reference.
Don't be disrespectful...
Donald Duck makes a lot of sense 😂
Stevie said what? I am still trying to figure out.
Come to Naples....
You cannot compare KDB and Alvarez! Alvarez won’t even come close to KDB in terms of assists!!
alvarez said he is happy at man city, so i don't know what the fuss is about, just pure drama from espn fc.
Alvarez is a great second striker. He is welcome at Arsenal.
I wish there was a City fan poundit here because all of these ones they don't like City , one is Man United , Liverpool' and Chelsea so you can see the hate in them
Someone must of had a word with ESPN the United content as dropped drastically in the last couple of days
Like the new camera angle
Stevie you are WRONG! WRONG WRONG! On Julian Alvarez. Jeez Stevie
Foden plays in DeBruyne’s position
Cancelo didn’t get playing time, he left
For the first time it seems like their is problems at Man City
Alvarez thinks he's the next best thing since Luis Suarez.
Even as a Chelsea fan, i don't think Alvarez would be an undisputed first choice for us. We may be rubbish now but we still have a lot of quality players who a particular manager may have high opinion about. That's the norm in the top clubs.
Would he be undisputed starter for Arsenal? Nah. Jesus and Havertz offer something different.
He won't be undisputed starter ahead of Darwin Nunez.
Dan must learn how to allow guests to talk... he s not the expert
Hilarious to see Nichols have a complete meltdown as soon as he’s asked to explain one of his many, vapid opinions.
Who is "Nichols"? No one by that name on this show.
@@LordHighness That’s your takeaway? What a waste of a comment.