Very interesting. I’m growing mine....beginner....via a kit. Crossing my fingers I get a few on either variety! Thank you so much for your video! I loved the process!
Wonderful tutorial, thanks. You say that the logs must not be more than 2 weeks old, but Ive seen other ´videos that say that the newly cut logs must be stored for 2-4 weeks to allow their resistance to spawn to die out. Please clarify, thanks.
Thank you that was really helpful. I have maple and oak logs for shitake and Lions Mane spore plugs. I am pleased to hear it all works using parafin wax ,as that is what i have at hand. I shall start tomorrow. 👍
Its a waste of sterile water and mycelium that goes to contaminated bark, trying to get inside the logs, when you can just drill inside the log every 7-10cm. This is why you also use soy wax, to protect the log being infected. The bark is there to prevent other funghi or pest. So there is no reason to soak them for inoculation.
@@FRESNEL_COOKING_SOLAR_OVENS24 oh I think I understand. If I soaked a log. The entire outside would become something else's meal. The wax gives the mycelium the chance. From becoming infected and run over. Am I understanding the methodology better?
You only inoculate once!!! 😂 Why would you do that again if they are colonized and produce untill wood is finished? What do you want to reinoculate? A spongy finished wood that is at the end after producing 6 years of mushrooms? They keep producing as long as is energy inside and still has weight. 😂😂😂
I inoculated mine last summer. Hope to get my first harvest soon. Will go out and check for signs of mycelium growth this weekend. Thank you Learn to pronounce
Can you really leave logs outdoors in winter if you live in a cold place with lots of snow? I thought the mycelium would die at super freezing temperatures. I baked some tiny logs in the oven at low temp to sterilize, inoculated them, and kept them indoors for the cold winter, and hope to soak them in July to force fruiting, but I'm not sure if they require some sort of dormancy. And perhaps I didn't keep them wet enough to survive. Any advice for cold climate log use?
I've never grown mushrroms or seen mushroom grow. But it's so interesting to watch this video! I'm going to try it! What season should I start in the UK?
@Giovanni-xp7jk Had to google to find what DMT and SLD stand for. No, I’m only interested in growing tasty mushrooms, those expensive ones in supermarkets.
I'm looking at growing mushrooms, my dad has a wood burner and stores short wood logs. My concern is you mentioed that they have to be be innoculated within 2 weeks from cutting from the tree so they don't dry out. My dad has them in storage. can i still take advantage of wood logs in another way? for example buy the plastic mushrooom bags and collect the saw dust instead?
You can grow several types of mushroom on logs including Lion's Mane, Oyster, Reishi, Maitake and Chicken of the woods, but they are harder to grow that Shiitake and have preferences for different types of wood. Shiitake's probably the easiest and most resistant to competing organisms when growing on logs. Check out our guide on our website grocycle.com/how-to-grow-mushrooms-on-logs-the-ultimate-guide/
Your videos are 10/10! Gonna start growing some mushrooms in the bags with coffee and hay... will any plastic bag suffice or does it need to be a special or particularly thin bag?
You can use lots of different things to grow in and it comes with pros and cons (as always!) here's a guide which might help: grocycle.com/how-to-grow-oyster-mushrooms/
Can you grow mushrooms on Hemp? Its in bio mass form. And if so, what types of mushrooms would you be able to grow on the bio mass? Thanks for anyone who can help out. Thanks for your effort in making of this video. Kudos....
Yes you can! We have experimented with it a bit and found it to be a good substrate for Oyster mushrooms. You can treat it in a similar way to straw: shred it, pasteurise it and then mix in your spawn.
I have sweet gum and oak logs cut about 6 months ago (early March) and kept in a shady spot in our yard. They are 3 feet in length. Are they still usable for mushrooms if we soak them before putting in plugs?
Hey Grocycle Team, Awesome videos and even more awesome resource for the knowledge behind all of it. A little question since you are growing both microgreens and mushrooms have you tried using the waste of the microgreens after harvesting to grow mushrooms ? Probably mixing them with a bit of fresh substrate the mushrooms should have enough nutrients to grow and it would drastically reduce the waste right ?
Hey brother i joined the course a few years ago and was in the facebook group but i think thats closed now right?Can you direct me to the new discussion group forum?
Hi @justinmarlin6446 The community is now inside the same platform as the courses, which you can access here: members.grocyclecourses.com/products/communities/lowtechmushroomfarmers/resources
www.mycelia.be/en in Belgium ship all across Europe, so does gluckspilze.com/home. Alder wood is good for Shiitake...or if you want something super easy and fast growing then go for Oyster mushrooms
do not order from gluckspilze. it took them 8 weeks to deliver my oyster spawn the one and only time i tried ordering with them! not even an apology after i wrote them after 4 weeks of waiting, asking what the status of my order is. they said it would arrive soon... which turned out to be another 4 weeks.
You want fresh anyway so I'd (guess) no. Emerald ash borer is the culprit , but possibly , the beetle just is the vehicle for the real killer a mold or fungus , like the elm beetle situation.
Stamets says fresh with a two week "resting" period, as stated in the video. Different species like different logs though. Except turkey tail which grows on anything.
Oaks tree,chestnut tree you can't use it within next day. It is better to inoculate span as soon as you cut down the log so that you do inoçulate before wood is infected. Once cut the logs it should use it within 2 to 3 weeks
If you're trying to be environmentally friendly, beeswax and soy wax are probably better than paraffin wax. Both beeswax and soy wax are basically types of fat, so they'll easily biodegrade. Whereas paraffin wax is more similar to the plastic that milk jugs are made of.
In nature, mushrooms don't need wax to grow. And from what I saw, most of your mushroom dowels didn't fruit. You didn't get a good harvest from either of the two videos I watched.
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Thank you so much, as a beginner this is gold for me. Bless you.
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Thanks for sharing this - it's great to see the whole process through!
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I'm going to start my Shiitake mushroom farm during this coming winter.
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EXACTLY the sort of vid/info I’ve been looking for. Thank you
Very interesting. I’m growing mine....beginner....via a kit. Crossing my fingers I get a few on either variety! Thank you so much for your video! I loved the process!
Wonderful tutorial, thanks. You say that the logs must not be more than 2 weeks old, but Ive seen other ´videos that say that the newly cut logs must be stored for 2-4 weeks to allow their resistance to spawn to die out. Please clarify, thanks.
I have done this process and you definitely want to get the angle grinder attachment, the high speed cuts the time drilling to a 1/10. Great vid!
Pro tip
Thank you 👍
Thank you that was really helpful. I have maple and oak logs for shitake and Lions Mane spore plugs.
I am pleased to hear it all works using parafin wax ,as that is what i have at hand. I shall start tomorrow. 👍
Spawn plugs
I wonder if the log could be soaked in a mycelium spawn water mix. Getting it into the log everywhere.
Cool video. I may try this out myself
Its a waste of sterile water and mycelium that goes to contaminated bark, trying to get inside the logs, when you can just drill inside the log every 7-10cm. This is why you also use soy wax, to protect the log being infected. The bark is there to prevent other funghi or pest. So there is no reason to soak them for inoculation.
@@FRESNEL_COOKING_SOLAR_OVENS24 oh I think I understand. If I soaked a log. The entire outside would become something else's meal. The wax gives the mycelium the chance.
From becoming infected and run over.
Am I understanding the methodology better?
Can I use liquid culture
Excellent video
Thanks for sharing this info
What kind of mushrooms did it grow?
Thanks for making this.
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Olive wood is OK for grow shiitake?
Amazing video! Can I grow some species of mushrooms using chestnut tree logs? Thank you.
Thanks. Can you reuse the logs and re inoculate?
You only inoculate once!!! 😂 Why would you do that again if they are colonized and produce untill wood is finished? What do you want to reinoculate? A spongy finished wood that is at the end after producing 6 years of mushrooms? They keep producing as long as is energy inside and still has weight. 😂😂😂
I inoculated mine last summer. Hope to get my first harvest soon. Will go out and check for signs of mycelium growth this weekend. Thank you
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Wonderful!
Thank you.I was wondering if after the logs are done producing at tje end of 5 years or so to just incorporate them to your garden and compost?
Can you really leave logs outdoors in winter if you live in a cold place with lots of snow? I thought the mycelium would die at super freezing temperatures. I baked some tiny logs in the oven at low temp to sterilize, inoculated them, and kept them indoors for the cold winter, and hope to soak them in July to force fruiting, but I'm not sure if they require some sort of dormancy. And perhaps I didn't keep them wet enough to survive. Any advice for cold climate log use?
How do you soak the dowel rod bits with a liquid from a syringe?
Any other mushrooms you recommend to grow in logs besides shiitake mushrooms?
I've never grown mushrroms or seen mushroom grow. But it's so interesting to watch this video! I'm going to try it! What season should I start in the UK?
@Giovanni-xp7jk Had to google to find what DMT and SLD stand for. No, I’m only interested in growing tasty mushrooms, those expensive ones in supermarkets.
I'm looking at growing mushrooms, my dad has a wood burner and stores short wood logs. My concern is you mentioed that they have to be be innoculated within 2 weeks from cutting from the tree so they don't dry out. My dad has them in storage. can i still take advantage of wood logs in another way? for example buy the plastic mushrooom bags and collect the saw dust instead?
You want to use freshly cut logs
I have wanted to do this, but I have deer that frequently enter my yard. Is it worth even trying or will they eat everything before they mature?
What other mushrooms do you recommend to grow on logs besides shiitake
You can grow several types of mushroom on logs including Lion's Mane, Oyster, Reishi, Maitake and Chicken of the woods, but they are harder to grow that Shiitake and have preferences for different types of wood. Shiitake's probably the easiest and most resistant to competing organisms when growing on logs. Check out our guide on our website grocycle.com/how-to-grow-mushrooms-on-logs-the-ultimate-guide/
Your videos are 10/10! Gonna start growing some mushrooms in the bags with coffee and hay... will any plastic bag suffice or does it need to be a special or particularly thin bag?
You can use lots of different things to grow in and it comes with pros and cons (as always!) here's a guide which might help: grocycle.com/how-to-grow-oyster-mushrooms/
Can you grow mushrooms on Hemp? Its in bio mass form. And if so, what types of mushrooms would you be able to grow on the bio mass? Thanks for anyone who can help out. Thanks for your effort in making of this video. Kudos....
Yes you can! We have experimented with it a bit and found it to be a good substrate for Oyster mushrooms. You can treat it in a similar way to straw: shred it, pasteurise it and then mix in your spawn.
I live in Florida so how would that work I have canopy in my side yard which I'm constantly seeing mushrooms that aren't edible growing
Thank You very helpful and informative !
I have sweet gum and oak logs cut about 6 months ago (early March) and kept in a shady spot in our yard. They are 3 feet in length. Are they still usable for mushrooms if we soak them before putting in plugs?
Hey Grocycle Team,
Awesome videos and even more awesome resource for the knowledge behind all of it.
A little question since you are growing both microgreens and mushrooms have you tried using the waste of the microgreens after harvesting to grow mushrooms ?
Probably mixing them with a bit of fresh substrate the mushrooms should have enough nutrients to grow and it would drastically reduce the waste right ?
Can you grow two different types on thicker logs?
@@blaqfish I think not, afaik one mushroom strain won't fruit until it has completely colonised the log... no sharing.
Great video!
Can you just spare water instead of soaking in water?
Thank you , you teach well.
Thank you very nice
Thank you
What Australian hardwood would be good for this please? Oak and birch etc are not easily come by.
Great question. no direct experience but I have seen Australian Permaculturists grow on Eucalyptus and even Acacia.
Hey brother i joined the course a few years ago and was in the facebook group but i think thats closed now right?Can you direct me to the new discussion group forum?
Hi @justinmarlin6446 The community is now inside the same platform as the courses, which you can access here: members.grocyclecourses.com/products/communities/lowtechmushroomfarmers/resources
@@GroCycleTV thanks brother!
Do the mushrooms get aware they are placed in the logs, which are no longer trees with roots, when placing them vertical, instead of horizontal ?
Parabéns! Gostei muito do seu vídeo. Obrigado !
Very nice
Thanks for the info✌️
No problem 👍
What if u live in Nevada its dry as hell here🤔🤔
Any ideas where to source spawn in Eastern-Northern Europe (Latvia)? +Any ideas on what's best for a beginner for primarily alder wood?
www.mycelia.be/en in Belgium ship all across Europe, so does gluckspilze.com/home. Alder wood is good for Shiitake...or if you want something super easy and fast growing then go for Oyster mushrooms
@@GroCycleTV Thank you so much!
do not order from gluckspilze. it took them 8 weeks to deliver my oyster spawn the one and only time i tried ordering with them! not even an apology after i wrote them after 4 weeks of waiting, asking what the status of my order is. they said it would arrive soon... which turned out to be another 4 weeks.
Great video, do you know if ash with die back should be avoided? Think that’s a fungus but I don’t really know
You want fresh anyway so I'd (guess) no. Emerald ash borer is the culprit , but possibly , the beetle just is the vehicle for the real killer a mold or fungus , like the elm beetle situation.
Does this method work for all temperature zones?
Yes it does...you may just want to adjust the species you inoculate with and select varieties that are matched to your temperatures
Can I use simple candle wax to seal?
Yes you can!
Can you inoculate on log this time of year? I live in Virginia and wanted start now
Can we grow it on dried log by soaking it....
No must be fresh before inoculation 1 month at latest. Other fungi have already inhabited it already
How much do you yields average per log?
I've got lots of willow trees but I never hear anybody growing mushrooms on willows does anybody know anything about that?
Can you use freshly cut logs? Or old logs?
Stamets says fresh with a two week "resting" period, as stated in the video. Different species like different logs though. Except turkey tail which grows on anything.
Oaks tree,chestnut tree you can't use it within next day. It is better to inoculate span as soon as you cut down the log so that you do inoçulate before wood is infected.
Once cut the logs it should use it within 2 to 3 weeks
If you're trying to be environmentally friendly, beeswax and soy wax are probably better than paraffin wax. Both beeswax and soy wax are basically types of fat, so they'll easily biodegrade. Whereas paraffin wax is more similar to the plastic that milk jugs are made of.
Are these mushrooms edible?
Yes - these are Shiitake, and delicious!
I want to grow shitake mushrooms
I am living in West Africa. Is it possible. Anybody doing it in Africa?
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I have problem with my mushrooms the pins are dying and turning brown what is the problem
too dry, too much FAE / direct light
That could well be the case. Here's a guide which might well help you: grocycle.com/how-to-grow-oyster-mushrooms/
@@GroCycleTV thankyou
As my mom says "That's alot of sugar for a nickel!" (TONS of work. Not as much reward! & I love shrooms!)
did he say "tree surgeon"
most people do not have success growing shitake on logs
In nature, mushrooms don't need wax to grow. And from what I saw, most of your mushroom dowels didn't fruit. You didn't get a good harvest from either of the two videos I watched.
Do not use locust 🪵 logs. They make all mushrooms poisonous ☠️
USA cities are Big on land print but building are very big,we need to stop expanding Cities and start building higher-up,(government get people building up)!!! please!!!🤦🤷🙋🙏
How about stopping illegal immigration. Over 5 million more people in 3 years.
Most of them are childbearing age, so that will become 15 million in less than 5 years
In California a lot of Wild fires are caused be electric grids supplying power to homes close to or in mountains or close to Wild Life,(do you get it) people is causing! Electric companies like San Diego gas and Electric shouldn't be allowed to supply power to homes in any wild life areas!!🤷🙋
Many fires are caused by illegals and vagrants.
Additionally, crazy people who are pyromaniacs. How about taking care of that first.
Thank you