So~ Yay or nay on the livestream? I would need to figure out how livestreams work, but I'm willing to do a live speedpaint and talk about Miraculous with whoever is interested! Also! I'm planning on my next video being a review of the new MLP movie, just as a heads up! X3
If you don't know how to use livestream then it's best to wait and do it some other time until you figure out how to use it. in other words it's a nay for me.
The choice of who gets the miraculous is much more serious now that its a life time commitment. Imagine Chloe being the bee miraculous holder for life. They would actually have to progress her character.
RIGHT?! Like...even if they take her miraculous away, she's the only one who can use Venom, so if they need her, they have to work with her. So definitely opportunities for character development there X3
Instead of having the whole class getting a Miraculous, it should only be Marinette, Adrien, Alya, Nino, and Chloe. This would give the writers more time to flesh out the characters
Even if the same characters still got miraculous it would have worked better like how luka got his. It wasn't a case of oh look classmate or oh look there in danger. Adrien genuinely thought based off his personality he would have been better suited from the miraculous. There just wasn't a tie to lucas and the villain and aside from milynn sorry I know that's misspelled that's how it's been. I would have liked if there was more variety on who is known for it. And more villains with a miraculous. That could have especially worked well with chloe and changed how alya had received hers. Like ladybug could have originally been trying to give Alya the bee but it got lost as what happened in the show but nobody knew that is was chloe as queen bee instead. She could have just been a petty secondary villain that just uses the miraculous to get her way and lady bug instead have alya the fox to help deal with this mistake.
one of my random ideas is that none of the characters (except chloe or/and adrien) go to marinette's school, they all go to different schools and the main way they're all friends are because of the band, i always thought it was the coolest thing ever, it was a shame the band wasn't shown often. this way, hawkmoth, who knows nothing about the band, will not suspect anything, it'll make harder for the characters to easily meet up = conflict, and just because i think the school setting is really, really boring. yes, we can get shots of marinette struggling at her school but still, this is paris!!! paris is objectively a million times cooler as city than her stupid school. they can also later add adrien to their band because he plays piano so uh ok. anyway, i would also lovee if alix was marinette's second best friend after alya, i wanted to replace alya with alix because alix has a wayy cooler superpower and her knowing both their identities while being their friend is so cool.
I would love for season 1 to be a Marinette season, where she learns how to be superhero and becomes more confident. I would want season 2 to be a Adrien season, where he deals with the fact his father may be or is Hawkmoth. Season 3 could be the season where they finally beat him. Maybe future seasons could deal with new villains. One thing I would like to see ghosts of holders as villains. Like maybe an extremist holder who wants to wipe out humans because they feel the world has been ruined by humans and that the miraculous should have never been used to protect humanity. I would love to see a season like this.
Oooo! REALLY cool ideas! I like it! I definitely agree that the drama with Hawk Moth shouldn't go beyond 3 seasons. One of them should have figured out one of the others identity based off of clues and it could all come to a head at the season 3 finale. I think the show needs a bigger villain, someone more threatening than Hawk Moth. Or just other villains in general, like you said, to give the miraculous holders a reason to keep being heroes X3
I have the idea of a big bad who believes that something like miraculous do not fit to human beings, or that giving god powers to people is ridiculously dangerous, and wants to destroy them. Or a super-hacker who has tons of information about countries and their leaders, and wants to discover the identity of the heroes to control them and use them as weapons.
I know it's kinda minor but it could impact the story in a way. Marrinette has it REALLY good at the moment. Her parents own the most famous bakery in Paris 💀 I mean--- wouldn't it probably be more compelling if the actual bakery wasn't doing so great financially? Like, Her parents could be at odds with each other-- trying to find out what would be best for their daughters future and the future of the bakery. It could justify Marinette's obsession (to an extent) for the wealthy boye we all know~ Adrien. Since he's got everything and is well off financially. He would be perfect, and he could save the bakery.. (in her imaginative reality) I dunno, it's always kinda bothered me how perfect Mari is. She needs some flaws besides being a teenager, being clumsy sometimes and having a freaky obsession over a boy.
I like that idea! It does make her character more interesting for sure! Plus it could cause some entertaining drama between her and Adrien down the line if he ever learns of her ulterior movie.
Ladybug's outfit would make you more upset when you find out the characters taste in fashion influences the outfit (as well as personality). Which, yeah, Marinette's kinda bland in personality, but she literally loves fashion so much, you'd think the outfit would be a bit more creative (which also fits the Ladybug miraculous).
I think the whole ‘bonded to their owner’ concept is a good idea, I would love to see it play out if either: A miraculous is still bonded to someone, or someone doesnt want to be a hero anymore. I could imagine in one episode it would be that they, for example, need the raccoon miraculous, then when mari goes to get it, its in the detransformed state, showing it is already bonded. This would then mean that she would just get another one and go on with her day, but it could maybe keep happening. Then one day she decides she needs to find the person (i mean what if they really needed that specific miraculous?), or a way to unbond them. She could first look for them, but not be able to find them, then really need to spend a few episodes reasearching where the miraculous came from or how to find an old owner, that would also help us learn about the miraculous ourselves. For the other idea: They could have that one person just refuses to take it one day, they dont want the pressure of having to be a hero till they die. So LB would then have to figure out a way to solve this: Find a way to unbond them or convince them to stay a hero. And i imagine if she finds a way to unbond them, that she and a lot of other people would want to then unbond from their miraculous aswell, not wanting to do it untill they die.
I really like your ideas, especially Gabriel having a clearer backstory and connection to the miraculous! The bonding thing is also cool (and call me biased but I like that it would mean that Chloe would get to keep the bee miraculous)! I'm glad I could help!
19:19 I would love to see this play out in The Colector. Imagine her trying to create enough items to fill up the book pages, almost passing out and loosing the battle until chat har the practical idea of just using regular items.
I think they should have split some of the duty in terms of approach between both characters and gave them aesopps for those approaches. Ladybug suffers from complexity addiction. It makes her a good superhero because in MOST cases her multilayered plans really do work. But she's short sighted and when something comes along that forces her to apply KIS^2 she panics or has to try harder to figure out a solution when pressed. If they want the villain of the week format she just needs an aesopp reset (which wouldn't get boring) of having to learn to not put so much complex thought into a situation. She's had this lesson at least on 2 to 3 occasions in the entire show and it ends up not mattering. Chat on the other hand thinks on his feet. He can see a situation for what it is and take the straight line approach. Sometimes all you need is a good hammer. But this isn't bad. He isn't just being impulsive. He's usually perceptive enough to know when a brute force solution is best. This is his one up on his partner. He WILL know when her plans are more applicable for the situation and let her take charge. His flaw will be that the implusiveness does kick in and sometimes tackling a situation in a different way will allude him. In other words he'll pretty much be series proper Chat Noir with a less smooth brain. Its sad that Reflekdoll was on the cusp of this idea. Adrien wanted a mirror for his charm and that's what he got. He's direct and one track and the Charm gave him something to reflect his mindset. While Marinette has complexity addition so her charms makes her work for it because that's what she wants out of it. I digress.
I have an idea! The kwami have limited control over their boxes.Plagg got lost on purpose because he was eager to retire for one reason or another. Tiki sense that Gabriel had changed, because he wasn't bonded to her but she had a good enough feel for his energy since she had been around him for a while. Master fu didn't believe her so when he went to do this ceremony, tiki bounced out of his pocket I also like the idea that if a quamie did not want to be bonded with their holder, the box would not open so there could be an element of humiliation or a feeling of betrayal driving Gabriel's actions as well
Ohhh! I like that! I think that's a cool idea for the kwami to have some control over their boxes. I think that makes some of my explanations a little less flimsy lol Very cool contribution! ^0^
@@TheArtisticAloubell thank you :-) I always liked the wand chooses the wizard trope, and it upsets me that tiki and plagg have no say in this decision. They are literally older than time itself. I do agree that the test was kind of stupid but I always got the impression watching origins that he had at least been scoping out these characters first. I mean, how would he know exactly when to start his little act? Very conveniently when a specific teenager was closest in view? Yeah.
i actually was working on a google doc of a rewrite of mlb myself but i am always looking for different interpretations of how to rewrite the show because everyone has different ideas. its so cool! definitely agree with fixing master fu's decision and the magic system. literally anything is better than what master fu does in canon. having master fu not pick them at all and it being a total accident, and gabriel being the one trained is SUCH a unique and fun decision. in canon there's barely any relationship between marinette and gabriel, they don't know each other at all besides through adrien. its not unseen in shows but its weird that for the most part marinette is not personally affected by gabriel in some way beyond him being an annoyance lol. in this scenario marinette and gabriel have a lot more parallels just by nature of both getting the ladybug miraculous and that alone is so interesting. and master fu actually caring about these kids getting hurt and killed... actually training them. 😭😭😭😭 stop i wish the show actually had me care about master fu. and the magic system!!!!! definitely agree that the lucky charm should give her what she wants. its so weird actually because it seems like that's what it does for adrien in reflekdoll? i was like, "wait why doesn't ladybug do this all the time?" the entire time watching. its crazy to me that adrien came up with an actual plan and then followed through. and then it didn't work? and marinette had to figure out the entire plan there... and then marinette never tries to make what she wants ahead of time ever again. either way, lucky charm actually showing marinette coming up with a plan ahead of time and then getting the item would be so great, because i get so confused by her plans in the show lord lmao. and definitely agree miraculous ladybug shouldn't bring people back to life and there shouldn't be time travel. i feel like to handle time travel well you have to plan your entire story out meticulously which mlb just... does not do. and chat noir having an actual use god bless!!!! definitely had a different way of rewriting the show but that's whats fun about hearing others ways of rewriting it. there's SO many ways they could have taken this show and its really amazing to see people get creative with the concepts. definitely would love watching ur version of miraculous!!!!!
Im also rewriting about the show xD Even though i sorta forgot about it I wouldn' t want to make it public cause i dunno maybe the specials would make a cool concept. But basically yea i fixed master fu, but i made him sort of creepy watching like a LOT of people how they lived, their families etc. But like chosing ladybug and chat noir only of curiosity since he choose usually on grown ups, he had the idea and it wasn't bad at first till an actual threat was presented and well he fucked up To seperate from your miraculous difinetely you had to say "i renounce to you 'kwami name' " since most of their powers activate with speak Both teens offered to help, Master fu gives them a chance Yadayda Alya Older Sister becomes the guardian And some adults have some miraculouses Time travel doesn't exist ChARacTeR dEVeLoPmeNT
Honestly, I wish the show just let Cataclysm work on the Akuma butterflies too so both Ladybug and Cat Noir could deal with that power on their own (since they're both supposed to be the strongest over other Miraculouses). Naturally, the show would lean toward Ladybug purifying them because Cat Noir feels bad about disintegrating (killing) them.
I definitely like these ideas compared to what the show does, especially the idea of being bonded with your Miraculous for life, meaning they can't just be taken so easily (makes up for the dumb moment in Lady Wifi where she has Ladybug right in her grasp and Hawkmoth, for whatever reason, doesn't just get the earrings and instead tells Wifi to release Ladybug and force her to use her Lucky Charm. It was definitely a Plot-Induced Stupidity moment). Reminds me of Max Steel with Steel bonding to Max to not only regulate his TURBO energy but also create Turbo Modes.
I don't know if anyone mentioned this already, but the reason Marinette's outfit is so plain is because she wasn't ready to accept the responsibility as Ladybug. The costumes are supposed to be what the user wishes/wants. The fix-it that I've heard, that is also my favorite, is that her costume would change when she accepted the responsibility. They could have done that when she became guardian.
I've heard about that explanation. Unfortunately, nothing in the show really confirms that, and its not really addressed by anyone, which is annoying DX If what you say is true, then YES her outfit absolutely should have changed once she was more comfortable as Ladybug.
There's 2 implications of pre-Origins when it comes to the Agrestes knowing about the Miraculous. 1.) Emille. That's it. We honestly don't know anything about her other than she was apparently a movie star and lowkey equally as worse a parent as Gabe. She could have had an intimate connection the Miraculous. or... 2.) The Agreste are amateur occultism buffs. Between the book with the Guardian text, information of the prodigious etc. etc. Emilie had a deep fascination Chinese mythology. which could have lead to the miraculous. A worse by tangential case is the obsession with Gabe's brand which is a butterfly. And he sought fashionable material to reflect that obession including coming upon the Moth Brooch.
I had an idea once about a more logical reason for Fu to give Adrien the cat miraculous, although it does require him to not want the cat miraculous to be used. Fu, knowing the capabilities of Plagg and knowing how his temptation has caused him to misuse a miraculous before, searches for the most pacifistic person he can find who would never use the destruction power. Adrien, being a caring, artistic child with an image of purity seems perfect, but Fu doesn't realise that giving him power is exactly what gives him freedom to break out of that image and create his alter-ego cat noir.
That would of course require Fu to study this teenage boy long enough to know this much about him but YES that would be a better reason to give someone the miraculous rather than "they helped me across the street that one time" lol It's a neat idea ^_^ Thank you for sharing! ^_^
Ok so hear me out, what if we had a villain that had no miraculous, or is it least aware of them enough that he wants to have them. So for an idea, imagine a big tech CEO type guy who is secretly evil and plans on conquering the world, but is having a hard time coming up with ways to do so. He ends up discovering the fact that the miraculous exists, and decides he wants them to help him in his plans. So in order to do so, he builds robots with different abilities and weapons and sends them out to fight the heroes and capture or kill them to take their miraculous. This would let the show keep its monster of the week formula, while also providing a villain after hawkmoth's defeat. It would also help Adrian's role as the robots are not sentient and he can use cataclysm on them without having to worry about killing an innocent person. The villain could also send out Mook robots that could act as henchmen for the main robot that let fights be more dynamic. Maybe even have an episode where the villain makes robot doubles of the heroes with weapons to match (ladybot would probably have a built in fabrication machine and mechanoir could have a sound wave weapon that instantly vaporizes things). Just some ideas.
A thing that should happen in the story is that the spell on the kwamis would either be broken or it never was casted. That way when the say the transformation words the Kwamis won't be vacuumed into the miraculous without there consent.
I think Fu should have let Tikki and Plagg out an choose who they think are worthy for certain amount of time in a day an then come back. They do this everyday til they find someone. Tikki and Plagg spy on Marinette and Adrein for afew months and then the appear in there room. After that Tikki and Plagg explains everything and then the tell Marinette and Adrein to go to Master fu's house and he explains why hes doing this and he tells them to help stop some crime. They do that and then at the end of the episode we see Gabriel transforming and sending out an Akuma. In the second episode Chat and LB goes and fights the villain. After struggling they manage to finally defent him and then idk- I haven't anned the whole thing and ik it isn't perfect but I think it is better than the original.
A lot of these rewrites are better than the original X'D Almost anything would have been better than Master Fu's two attempts at crossing the street. It just raises more questions and concerns than necessary DX But the idea of the kwamis choosing their holders seems cool! Like if while spying on their candidates they witness a certain personality trait that is consistent and gels well with their ideals. And, yeah, after a while, they officially choose them X3 Cool idea!
So fun fact: Ladybug’s outfit was design by Astruc himself, her outfit was inspired Astruc’s friend with her white shirt that have a ladybug at the middle
This had no right to be this good ! Like wow ! Also , I'd like to add to the idea of miraculouses being bond to their owner for life that they're the only one who can see their kwamis , that will lead to interesting and funny dynamics between the kwamis if two holders meet with each other
Thank you! I'm glad you liked how it turned out X3 That would be a cool idea too! Or even so that only kwami holders can see kwamis, that could work too. But I do see some fun shenanigans happening if only the holders can see only their own kwami and no one elses. X3
16:52 This solves so much in the story and honestly something I did come up with for a rewrite. Given how many people interact with both of Marinette's and Adrien's personas, it's ridiculous to think nobody could put two and two together. Literally.
EXACTLY. Like, the show tries to tell us that there are magical shenanigans afoot that make it so that they can't be recognized, but there's so many counter examples in the show itself that disprove the "quantum masking" stuff. They need to commit to that idea if that's what they're going with, otherwise, it makes no sense.
Actually in the show it is stated that Gabriel, Emily and Natalie have been on a journey for magical artifacts and have accidentally found the miraculouses and the book that Fu has lost in Tibet long time ago. Yes, he probably couldn't translate the book but probably he made the kwamis tell him everything they know about the miraculouses and their powers. I think that it was first said in the episode Volphina and since then they are only giving us clues to the whole story. I hope they will actually show us the whole story in the new seasons because it will answer so many questions and we will be able to understand some of the most important characters of the show much deeper.
I honestly think that Ladybug and Cat Noir should both be a leader/guardian and train by Master Fu because he chose them for a reason in order to save Paris. So if Marinette sees Master Fu so much then why can't Adrien do the same (well, maybe in different times)? It is just not fair if one of them has to see while the other has to stay and fight the villains. That is why Cat Noir had some issues with her in season 2 and so forth. Also, it is harder to keep their secret identities as the series goes on. The more you keeping your secret, the more problem you get. I get that fans dislike where Ladybug gives the Miraculous to her classmates like candies. I mean I feel like they should be permanent just like other Magical Girls series did. Sometimes the way I see is that she just grabbing them in order to defeat the villains (Like in Mega Leech where she just used the 4 heroes, commands them what to do in 5 seconds, and you're done basically.) But...I'm really hoping that they should keep it in later seasons. I would love to read your version of the story! ❤❤
I definitely agree that Ladybug and Cat Noir should share the guardian spot. The extra emphasis put onto Ladybug seems weird since they are supposed to be equally powerful and important. For sure the whole secret identities thing should have been dealt with a while ago as realistically it would have been hard to keep it up for so long. I definitely think everyone should keep their miraculous and when they do, they should have more purpose than just showing up for 5 seconds once every season >__< Thank you, dear, for watching and commenting!
You know what I would love? Cat noir finds out about cat Blanc (maybe an episode where the villain reveals the worst fears of a character and that's what pops up for ladybug) and to avoid turning into cat Blanc learns that Akuma blocking technique from Sue Hahn. Adrian has such a strong level of restraint, the problem is he uses it to bottle up his emotions. It would be interesting to see how that was dealt with if he were trained
ooh another cool idea would be if there wasn't really a mentor at all and the way the show progressed would be marinette trying to research her culture and finding old books with lore etc since the show is based of Chinese mythology and marinette is half chinese. her identity crisis and no attachment to her culture would also be relatable and understanding to other mixed kids watching, i just find that sweet. they way adrien would mentor himself could be, uh, lets say plagg. plagg always came off as alcoholic dad to me, someone who doesn't really care about their kid and just lets them do whatever they want. so seeing him trying to mentor adrien would be comedic and fun. then the question comes, why didn't tikki just mentor marinette? maybe because she was the goody two shoes and solely believed that the only right way to do something was the traditional and original way and pushed marinette to research herself and refused to help her?
I love your ideas! And in regards to Gabriel knowing about the miraculous, I think I remember him saying he went on a trip to Tibet with his wife? Someone correct me if I’m wrong... but I guess they found the Butterfly and the Peacock ones while they were there. The rest they were kinda vague about. I guess they’re waiting to reveal why Gabriel and Emilie were messing around with the miraculous in the first place.
Ah! thanks for the info! Though it seems its still pretty vague how they know so much info about the inner workings of miraculous and the miracle boxes. Like...how did he know that the ladybug plus cat miraculous equals wish? The backstory there definitely needs some expanding lol
Right?! XD It's also so lazy on his part, too going for the first two people who help him. I want to see him going through a process of finding the individuals! Not just going with the first two who show up!
I think the answer to Gabriel knowing about the miraculous is because he somehow had the miracoulous book (and somehow found the peacock and butterfly miracoulous). Now that brings up the question, how did he find it? I think it’s hinted or there is a theory that adriens mom found the miraculous and used the peacock and got sick because of it. I really like your rewritten except for the death part. Like I like it because it does add more stakes to it but at the same time, when rewriting we have to keep in mind for who it is written for. For little kids (and while kids could handle grim matter for example avatar the last airbender, I think it’s still too direct especially for the first season). I think there should be an item or something that would allow miraculous holders to be separated from the jewel but it was lost with the temple when fu ran away. Fu could be like “look ladybug and chat noir, at this moment there is no way to remove a holder from the Kwami, only through death.” Which lets us and ladybug and chat noir know that right now there isn’t, but in the future there COULD be a way. And so when/if the temple comes back, it gives “another goal” for chat noir and ladybug besides finding hawk moth. Maybe marionette decides or starts really thinking about giving up her miraculous. After all, that is what she wanted at first and with the return of Master Su-Han kinda pressuring her and using the same argument as the episode (with the items that can separate the holder and kwami) she starts giving in. then chat noir tells her “look at all we have accomplished, we may have been chosen accidentally but we have grown and proven ourselves time and time again. Yeah, we might not have been able to capture hawkmoth yet but we are what París needs. We care bout the people, the city, and if we give up and give back our miraculous to some dude that doesn’t care about Paris, just the protection of the miraculous, then our loved ones will end up hurt” or something like that. Master su-han could be more about “the greater good” character. Saying something like “ when hawkmoth realizes that ladybug and chat noir gave up their miraculous he will give up as well, eventually. Or something like that
That's good info to know! thank you! But yes, I too would like to know the circumstances under which he found the book. I wish the Gabriel Agreste episode went into his backstory >.< I see what you mean about the "till death" think being a bit harsh. Although I do suppose it really depends on what the target audience is. If the target audience is for people under 10, then yeah, it is a bit extreme. I do like your idea of there being a way to release the bond, but it being obscure or lost. I think I can work with a similar idea, although what I have in mind is a bit darker. Lol Admittedly, my version of Miraculous is for older kids or maybe even teens X3
@@TheArtisticAloubell i think its still possible to make death the only other option to separate a holder if the audience is for younger kids but it would have be talked about very carefully and not be direct (like "the holder and kwami can only be separated when the holder is no longer with us" or something like that). And to build upon "my idea" is that even if it is an option, this "safe" option is pretty painful, like UNBEARABLY painful and it ciuld be because you go through the memories of each previous holderor something. so that is why even if it allows you to continue living, it causes pain. but it makes sense, your version is pretty cool and awesome!
Master Fu: “yeh imma just walk across da street and see if anyone is willing to help me, then I’ll give them deez extremely important and valuable items that are able to destroy the world. WHAT CAN GO WRONG?!” ,:D
One thing always bothered me about ladybug was definitely her outfit, and something else. Ladybugs fly. Not for long but they fly. I WANNA SEE A CUTE HOVERING LADYBUG with cute sparkles. Or not sparkles come and go. But hovering ability for short periods could be nice. Also i want the cape/wings thing on the outfit. Make her look like a ladybug. Also why does queen bee not have healing powers? Queen bees don't do anything but make babies for a colony. It would be her duty to keep the colony save or on this case the miraculous holders save. Also BEES FLY have her be a flyer support character which conflicts with her personality and makes her a better person because she needs to learn to help people. MAKE THE THINGS THAT FLY FLY
There is this Marvel character named Niko Minoru who is a magician who wields the staff of One. It is OP as hell and can do anything you ask it to. The only rule is that you can only say the word or phrase once. You can only say "Sleep" once. If you want to redo that move, you might try "tranquilize" or "pass-out". I think it could be a cool quirky mechanic here. She will get a couple of easy missions but start to struggle after the first few episodes. By Season 4, she would be yelling "Vasovagal syncope"
Would you consider writing this idea on Wattpad? I'd love to see more of this! I think it's a interesting concept and I'd also love to see how this show/story would go. Especially on how each person (other then Marinette and Adrien) would gain their miraculouses. One thing I ask tho, is will Adrien be the same as he is in the story or will he have a different persona? Also how would Marinette handle her feelings for Adrien? (considering people really want to see them together) Sorry for the length of this, I just really wanna see how this wonderful idea would go and if you'd make it into reality.
I'm so glad that you like this idea I came up with! Unfortunately, I do not have any plans on making this into a full fanfiction as I feel it would be rather involved haha I already have a non-Miraculous story I'm working on and I honestly don't have the time to devote to flushing this idea out. Buuuut I will consider making a follow-up video with some other ideas I can add to this concept X3 As for Adrien, I think he'd be mostly the same but with a bit more pent up anger. Marinette's crush would be there, but I'd have their friendship develop a little more naturally and have her grow out of that stuttery awkwardness rather quickly.
19:54 I love this concept! It would reflect more of how Marinette would think as a person therefore adding to her character development And for the countdown bit where the miraculous beeps, maybe the bigger or more powerful the item is, the quicker she starts to transform back, so if she were to create something big and powerful, she may only have 1 min left before she turns back into Marinette but if she makes something smaller and less powerful (but she can still use it in an efficient way to defeat the villain) the less amount of time will be taken away from her de-transformation countdown
I think their costumes should be first a re-election of them when they get their miraculous. As they use their miraculous they get power ups that will change their suit. so as they gain skills and knowledge about being heros the suits that form on them change to reflect that (ie more detail, complex patterns, extra accessories).
I really love this idea! However, there is one alteration I would make to it: have Gabriel critically injure Master Fu in a fit of rage for losing the ladybug miraculous. Then have Master Fu hospitalized in a medically induced coma. This would explain why he doesn't tell Cat Noir and Ladybug Hawkmoth's identity. And then bring him back into the story recovering after Hawkmoth is defeated by having him train Cat Noir and Ladybug.
haha yeah, someone else noticed the plot hole of why Master Fu doesn't just tell Adrien. I'm gonna do a part 2 at some point to address it lol But that's a cool suggestion you gave ^0^ And I'm glad you like my rewrite--thank you!
Ok. So first off, giving Gabriel Ty lungs backstory from kung fu panda is actually a great change and giving mari a less serious spiderman origin is also great I definitely much prefer this story. Do you write fanfics? Or like...books in general? Cause you should. And I'd read it
Hahaha nice job catching onto the inspiration x3 I think when I initially thought of the concept, I didn't realize I was referencing Kung Fu Panda, and then it doned on me lol
@@TheArtisticAloubell hey, its a good idea :) and it works really well in the context of your alternate show ALSO, giving mari scribblenauts powers!?! Chefs kiss. So much cooler. AND THANK YOU for giving chat noir a reason to exist!! It bothers me so much that they give them ties to yin and yang but mari is basically the ONLY one who is like... neccisary.
@@ginnys.matthias1818 It's actually kind of disappointing that the show doesn't fully utilize the Ladybug holder's powers of creativity. But hey, it's Astruc's vision and I guess he just didn't intend the show to be like that. A girl can dream, though! Haha I'm glad you like my changes x3 Seriously poor Cat Noir for not having much to do! Their superhero duo needs to be more balanced for sure.
This is so much better than what the show did. It makes me sad though because it reminds me of the potential This show has with its ideas and premise that it either completely ignores or ruins by doing something stupid.
Third option as to how Gabriel and Fu would have met. It's said Gab found his miraculous in ancient ruin on a globetrotting thing or something, so instead of *that* he meets Fu on said trot and takes interest in his practices of self reflection and training in the arts of heroism and general do-goodieness. So he becomes his pupil, and sense is right there and everything Fu plans for him to be the next Ladybug hero. Until things go terribly wrong yada-yada anime backstory.
I have bad facial recognition due to my autism and I like the idea that the same sort of effect happens with miraculous holders, where it’s almost like their features and any recognisable elements aren’t perceived because ✨magic✨ makes it so the persons brain physically can’t hold onto the information
I have got many ideas for a fixed version of this show. Problem is...they aren't very child friendly. I mean, in my scenario, I talk about smoking, drinking, death penalty (based on the epidode of "Criminal Minds" in which Penelope visited a killer on the death row), serial killings (don't worry, it's just one villain and the people might have deserved it), psychological descent into madness...
Your idea for a Miraculous bonding with the wearer and not able to be used by anyone else until the current holder dies reminds me of the Devil Fruits in One Piece.
LISTEN. IT MAKES MORE SENSE WITH EVOLUTION, AND I REFUSE TO BELIEVE THAT IT WAS PLANNED. like i refuse to believe anything other than the fact that they heard us complaining and so they made it "make sense"
I loved the MUCH NEEDED rewrite but there are some problems; - If a miraculous is bonded with you for life, i'm assuming we won't see unifications of miraculouses. - If the power of the Rabbit miraculous changes, so does it's concept. (This goes for rabbit) - The new change in the Ladybug miraculous makes it the SAME thing as the Genesis from the Goat Miraculous.
There will be no mention of the rabbit miraculous in this rewrite, so let's just assume it doesn't exist lol Unifications are rare in this reality, yes. The goat will also not be mentioned, so let's also pretend it doesn't exist. If I were to include the goat and/or rabbit, then yes, their powers/concepts would be different. But I'm choosing to ignore them altogether XD
Hmm...that's a good question! I guess if we wanted the show to end quickly, then yes! LOL But if we want to stretch the story out, them we can say that Master Fu is too ashamed of his mistake to want to tell them Hawk Moth's identity. As for if Master Fu knows Mari and Adrien's identities...maybe at some point Mari and Adrien reveal themselves to Master Fu after hearing about his past relationship with Hawk Moth. They do this at separate times so they don't learn each other's identities. When Master Fu finds out that Adrien is Cat Noir, he is VERY shocked and even more ashamed of the situation. He struggles with whether or not to tell Adrien the truth. He knows that Gabriel is a bit unhinged right now, so maybe him knowing Adrien's identity could be problematic as he doesn't know if Gabriel would be willing to sacrifice his own son. So...at least for the mean time, no he doesn't tell Adrien. Part of Master Fu's character arc could be him learning to trust his protegees again and trust that they can handle the situation.
I guess this plothole could be solved by saying Gabriel already has the two miraculouses (like in the show, found them with his wife) but didn't tell anything to Master Fu. This way, when he leaves, Master fu doesn't know Gabriel is Hawkmoth.
Hi! I finished Bonds Beyond Fate already, but I finished this before watching the show. Because of you though, I decided to watch all 5 seasons and yeah, I can really see the impact..your ideas are great!!
As of ladybugs outfit, I believe it was due to the fact that she wasn’t ready to become a superhero, and saw it as an annoyance, while Adrien saw it as an escape, the costumes reflect their personality which is why it was so basic ( I may not be 100% correct )
Yeah, I heard that reason...I can almost accept that if Mari had gotten an updated outfit that she wears all the time since she's now accepted her role quite a while ago. I know she has an updated outfit now, but it only shows up when she does her Lucky Charm. If I honestly had to guess why its like that, maybe the animators don't want to do a new transformation sequence or something??? Idk
It would be cool for bonded miraculous to be able to be swapped, because of yin and yang and power balance. Not because im in love with lady norie or anything. (Then again the same results could be achieved with a power swapping akuma)
(My AU = Adult AU) Marientte works as a fashion designer, meanwhile Adrian and Felix is a model. Adrian is Gabriel's cousin, making sense since Adrian had a cousin (Felix) in the actual show, so they must be a auntie / uncle in the family. This will be the same in this AU, Felix and Adrian are brothers, 1 day, both of them meet Marientte. This'll happen because, they've been looking for new clothing for their career. After both Adrian and Felix search the streets of Paris and look online, they were suggested to go this shop. In there, they finally find the clothing designs they'd need, at this point, they meet Marientte. Marientte had just opened a new shop with her designs displayed. Right away, she started to gain popularity, not that much though, people started recommending Marientte's shop, this is how Adrian and Felix got suggested to go there. That's all, u can use this if u like, ♡ (That goes for anyone who sees this).
This makes me wanna watch miraculous to see how the original came out compared to yours because I love yours way better and I don’t remember the first episode…
One of your videos about MLB popped on to my yt feed and I've been watching the whole playlist today, I wish Miraculous followed this storyline instead the mess created by Thomas Astruc People usually say "oh but it's just a kid show is not really that important" like kids are stupid or something, there's amazing shows like Avatar TLA that were meant for kids too and had a deep and well written story and characters, so I don't think it's exactly unrealistic to expect the level of quality from your storytelling on a kids show
3:10 you know the scene where master Fu trying to reach his staff due to his in the middle of the road. Do you know what the people of Paris did? They starring at their phone and acting as if nothing had happened. That even includes the adults
Not to mention that the background characters are look very similar with the others and only them have a different colour. For example, there's a blonded hair version of mallon.
Nino and Master Fu should somehow gain a relationship. Because if Miraculous' only come undone when the user dies, and Nino is the next turtle Miraculous user.... well... then one day Nino will have to be the one to shoulder the burden when the old man dies. Maybe with Nino becoming Adrian's best friend, Nino actually becomes Adrian's confidant. That or Nino stumbles on the secret kind by accident, and that speeds up the friendship factor between Adrian and Nino. Maybe once Nino learns, Master Fu makes it his business to meet the young man, and make SURE he keeps quiet. Nino is thoroughly interrogated and after he learns how serious the situation is, he makes it his own mission to help no matter what. And maybe...some of that help is meeting up with Master Fu to keep a line of communication open between the two (since Adrian Fu learns that Adrian is Gabrie's son and BASICALLY jailed, and so he'll have almost no way to contact the boy without putting himself at risk) and eventually helping Fu with Guardian duties. Maybe helping him find Charms and stuff instead of it just being Mary (like the potions or just gathering ingredients for him). Maybe Nino's family has a very strict respect your elder's policy that makes him want to do extra errands for Master Fu, and they genuinely start having a friendly relationship. This could even work on Master Fu's end because after Gabriel betrays him, it must have been like losing a son. Especially since Fu has to go into hiding because Gabriel turns his connections and money methods of capturing Fu, forcing the elder into hiding. So when Nino starts assisting him...it's almost like gaining another son. And at first he doesn't notice because Gabriel and Nino are as opposite as two people can be... but eventually he finds himself growing attatched to him and maybe seeing him as another son/ grandson he never had. So when Fu passes, possibly by Gabriel finding out where he's hiding and attacking his home, it's Nino who's there with him in his dying moments. And before he passes... he asks him to bring the miracle box to Marinette. And when he gives Nino the turtle Miraculous, he says something like "You'll never be alone in your mission. I will always be there to protect you..." implying he is the shield in the Miraculous (which might also imply that when a wielder dies, a part of their soul remains in the Miraculous forever... whoa...) And now I'm making myself sad! Thinking of Nino having that last message and responsibility given to him by a surrogate grandfather. (As a side note, this means Nino would be one of the last people to gain a Miraculous of the main characters.)
@@TheArtisticAloubell Yay! I hope you don't mind but I just watched your third video in the series and gave an idea on how some people got their Miraculous. I hope I didn't over step in your story! I just got SO invested and immediately started making fan theories.
I know this video is six months old but I thought I’d shed some light on a question of yours. Yes they said how Gabriel found out about the miraculous. He went on a trip with his wife far away where he found the miraculous of the butterfly and peacock, along with a book explaining the miraculous and the kinds of powers you could get from them. Only thing about the book is that it has information on what has been found out, so there are still plenty of secrets the miraculous have
Yeah, I have found that out since then haha. But thank you! Did the show ever mention why the peacock and butterfly miraculous were separated from the other miraculous and why the book was with them?
@@TheArtisticAloubell yes they did. In one of the episodes, hawk moth and miyura finds an old sentimontster. Master Fu learns about it and explains to Mari what it was. Fu made it when he was only a child because he wanted some food during his training when he was forced to watch the box. His anger and hunger made the monster that would eat the miraculous. A guardian told him to run with the book to safety. While escaping the sentimonster, he ended up loosing both the peacock and butterfly miraculous along with the special book. Hope this helps :D
One idea of how Adrian gets the cat miraculous is that his father had been secretly hiding the cat miraculous in his room, office or somewhere no one would go to, not even Master Fu. Perhaps he locks it in a safe that only he knows the combination to. Adrian gets a hold of it one day when his father is looking for the ladybug miraculous, after finding out Master Fu lost it. Adrian was hoping to spend time with his father, but he’s away and decided to take something he knows his father would look for in hopes to gain his father’s attention. Perhaps pretending some thief stole something from his dad and he found the thief and brought back the item. Adrian breaks into his father’s safe, knowing his father always uses his mother’s birthday as his combination, then takes the ring. At first, he just looks at it, then puts it on. Some shenanigans happen and he becomes Chat Noir, seeing his super hero identity as an escapism, while also deciding to hide that he has it from his father. His father, on the other hand, can either have always know the holder of the cat miraculous was his son or believes the holder of the cat miraculous is a thief that stole what was his.
@@TheArtisticAloubell Thanks. I took a bit from my own experiences of dealing with neglect when I was at the same age as Adrian. Going into my parents' room and taking things was something I did sometimes.
I’m working on my own rewrite of the show and I LOVE these ideas, especially the bonding because even in mine I feel there’s a weak reason to keep Chloe as the bee holder. Gabriel’s reason to be in the plot is also better in yours and I do like the power scaling but you definitely have to address the Rooster. Also I know I’m more than a year late but whatever. I have some ideas for my one and I’m taking some inspiration from you, Cyrus and some other Miraculous reviewers. Not saying you only do Miraculous but I mean people who review the show some amount of times. I definitely need to work on some things like I don’t really know what to do for my S2 tho I do have a good idea for S3 (the last one). And yes 3 Seasons to my one and maybe some backstory spin offs like an Agreste/Fathom short series and a Backstory for Fu series in fact I already have some ideas for both of those. I doubt you’ll see this but if you do good job Alou! I feel like a rambled a lot about my rewrite… so let me tell you everything I freaking have! Haha! 2 Part Origins (S1 beginning): Now Paris is recovering from some “attack” that happened about a month back (and coincidentally so did Emelie’s death! Wow! I wonder if that has anything to do with it) and so is Master Fu. So Fu is shown coughing and just being ill. Wayzz advises Fu to take some rest but Fu is remaining diligent for any attack. Wayzz suggest that the old man choose 2 new Miraculous holders, 1 for the Ladybug Miraculous and 1 for some other Miraculous. Fu uses the Rooster and in my version the Rooster has the power of Inscription. It basically can make a non sentient and non magical object magical. The object won’t have the same power of a Miraculous but more of a Miraculous weapon like you can create the Turtle’s Shield but not the Turtle itself. Get the gist? Also the only way to get rid of the inscription is to destroy the inscribed object or for the Rooster holder to snap away the inscription like how you would snap away a Sentimonster with the Peacock. Anyway he uses the Rooster to make his cane a wise magic choosing cane and takes to the streets. Meanwhile, Marinette wakes up at 8:18 AM after silencing her phone twice and realises she done f-ed up. She rushes down stairs to 2 angry parents but they have no time to scold her and she just takes a couple… idk Croissants? Yeah sure and leaves to go to school, riding on her bike. We also get Adrien’s scene and he sneaks out of the house with Natalie following suit. Then, we get an introduction to Gabriel/Hawk Moth. I’m not leaving the twist that Gabriel is Hawk Moth, it’s just a straight reveal. Anyway, Gabriel is talking to Nooroo about some exposition stuff about Nooroo’s power and the fact that no one should willingly help Gabriel but Gabriel puts on the Broken Peacock after a smirk and transforms. Fu is out on the streets and Mari and Adrien help him up and with his cane he realises that they would fit the Ladybug and Cat. Fu is pretty hesitant as they’re teenagers and tries to find some alternative but that’s the best he could find so he reluctantly gives them the Miraculouses. After some episode time we get the Stone Heart stuff and this is basically just like the original but I would change 1 thing. The time Marinette falls in love with Adrien. So at this point Paris has gone to shit all because Mari didn’t purify the Akuma. Adrien and Marinette hide together and Adrien shares some of his thoughts about how he does so much of his modelling for his father because it’s not about him, it’s about them. The people he cares for, the people he does good to. Even if it’s just Gabriel and maybe Natalie, it’s still about them. Mari is inspired and decides to transform back into Ladybug to fight the Akuma. Also the gum thing didn’t happen and the Umbrella scene. So yeah that’s the new Stone Heart. Oh and if you’re wondering why Gabe put on the Peacock Miraculous but never transformed is because with it he can faintly sense emotions so any really bad negative emotions he could sense. Oh and I’m doing your thing of the Ladybug chooses what to make Some other stuff for S1: Felix is going to appear here and the stuff he’s going to do is find the coded Grimoire and then give it to Adrien so Gabe can’t have it and he’s going to swipe Gabriel’s ring. Not because of the Senti theory but because the rings have a different power. But that’s a mystery! Alya, Nino and Chloe will get a character arc. Chloe’s one will be like her one in S2 and 3. Alya’s will be about letting go of her blog and we get to know some of her past. She was inspired by old YTs to become an influencer herself but ended up flopping until Ladybug showed up and she was showered in fame. But, the blog will get in the way of LB and CN because Alya’s supposed to be Rena Rouge when they need her. Nino… ok Nino I haven’t quite figured it out yet but he’s getting something at least. Also CN and Mari bump into each other some times. Oh and we get an episode like Glaciator minus the part with the Glaciator villain cus Andre’s truly an asshole where Mari and CN talk about love, their feelings and some other stuff before falling asleep on the roof of a building(this is basically the candle place). That’s another thing I would change, the characters freaking talk to each other. Instead of getting stalking we get talking that’s not awkward. We get actual natural and funny interactions between these characters. Oh and the Bunny is nerfed cus of course. I’ll discuss its power in a later part of this post. Lila’s also going to be a bit more of a prevalent villain but I’ll get to that one later. Chloe getting her Miraculous is basically the same btw. Master Fu also comes in to decode the Grimoire and like uhhh they receive weekly lessons on how to fight better I guess. And like CN and LB are equal because they should be. Evillustrator: Yes this episode is in the rewrite. I just can’t help myself because it’s MARICHAT! AHHHHHHH! But in all seriousness, it’s not going to be a perfect rehash, let me explain. So basically, instead of the birthday thing Evillustrator kinda just runs off the create this elaborate trap for LB and CN while CN and Mari try to lure Evillustrator out by going on a fake date filmed by Alya as a part of the blog. Of course some parts are real and there’s 1 joke I NEED to include. So Mari and CN are going to the movies and the ticket guy is like “ticket?” And CN just shows a card that gets them in. Mari asks what cat did and CN says that Adrien let him borrow a card for their “date” that would allow them to just sit in any film if there’s empty seats. Mari asks “Did Gabriel buy the whole god damn cinema?” And CN responds “no, the company that owns the chain”. Idk why I just chuckle at that. Anyway after the movie Mari and CN kiss under the rain and Evillustrator is pissed enough to attack CN. Mari and CN work together to defeat Evillustrator and now Nathaniel has a broken Tablet. F dude that shit’s expensive. Also this episode includes a plot of Mari wanting to confess to Adrien. So yeah it’s Evillustrator + Glaciator 2. Yay 2 Love Part not Season Finale (Context): So under some bull crap Mari confesses to Adrien as LB and they start dating. We have an entire episode of their relationship and really Adrien realises that maybe Ladybug doesn’t really love Adrien but the perfect pretty boy model. Because Mari fell in love with how selfless Adrien is to do something he doesn’t like for the people he loves but that’s not all of Adrien. Anyway LB and Adrien get caught making out or something and now Gabriel knows. Gabe now could endanger his son to get a chance at the Ladybug Miraculous and this is a tough call for him. Eventually he decides to do so and we lead to the 2 Part… thing called “Love” Love (the 2 parter): So Gabe akumatises Natalie into LadyBubbler and she then kidnaps Adrien by putting him in a bubble. LB fights LB but LB got Rena to make an illusion and LB beats LB eventually but Adrien breaks up with LB (yes the fact that I refer to Lady Bubbler and Ladybug as LB is meant to be a joke). Then LB gets akumatised and the first part of the 2 parter ends in a Cliff hanger. Adrien is able to escape and LB becomes Princess Justice. So Cat gets the team and we get a new concept. Reverse Centrifuges. So this is a new kind of Unification where if 2 Miraculouses are like meant to be linked then when you combine them with the special Reverse Centrifuge phrase, they both power each other up and both powers get a big boost. It does tire the user more than even a regular unification tho but Cat doesn’t really have a choice because this is an Akumatised LB. After a long fight, nearly everyone is beaten down in their civilian forms (so their identity is revealed) but Cat is able to take the Pig and Fox to Reverse Centrifuge them with the Cat to make a Super Illusion (explained in Appendix 54 H) and Cataclysm Ladybug’s earrings to get the Akuma. Ladybug is pretty shocked that she was both dumped and akumatised and just runs off. And that concludes the 2 Parter. Techno Trio (terrible name Ik): So uhhh Gabriel gets Natalie to akumatise their little servant robots into 3 very powerful Robots that could be disguised as Nino, Chloe and Alya. Gabe makes a party thing and locks the 3 in a closet. LB and CN need their help and so they give all 3 of them their Miraculouses. In the end LB and CN are betrayed by the 3 but are able to defeat 2 of them but the final one runs off with the Fox Miraculous. You see where I’m going here? So Lila becomes a permanent villain team member and holds the Fox Miraculous. And the final robot uses the Peacock because it’s just so durable. Natalie controls the robot btw. I think I’ll need to make multiple posts for this.
Some other stuff this Season: Marichat. There it becomes canon. Chat dresses up in a banana suit every night and jumps over to Marinette’s balcony for some late night visits, maybe some snacking, gaming, the bell’s a zi- you know. I was thinking about this like episode (or episodes) where it’s close to Mari’s 15th Birthday and so Adrien wants to give her the best Birthday ever. There’s this big Masquerade ball, a giant cake that he helped Tom bake, uhh some presents from friends and Adrien’s even going to give her a ring as his present. And maybe protection (yes THAT kind) but perhaps it’s not a good lesson to teach kids to mate immediately when you reach the age of consent (it’s 15 in France lel). That also leads into one of the jokes. So CN reveals his identity to Mari and Mari reveals herself to be LB and they both hop on a bed and make out. Alya walks in on them and she’s like “wtf you 2 are back together? And doing the dirty thing!” And so LB like changes her voice back to Mari to make it sound like she and CN are the ones doing the naughty. Oh and CN is disguised as someone else, he’s not in his superhero costume because he wouldn’t do that. Then LB and Adrien escape and head back to the party as Alya goes to tell her friend off. The ring thing feels too much but it’s actually important for the next episode. Also CN’a disguise is like the banana suit and he tries to sound different from usual The 2 Part Season Finale! In exchange for so much free time to prepare for Mari’s B day, Adrien is forced to take a modelling trip for some other company. In class, everyone’s just cheering for Mari because it looks like she got married to her mysterious Boy friend. Alix even sends a video of everything to the class chat. That day Adrien and Mari kinda hint that Adrien is the B friend and everyone’s just kinda confused because they thought they heard Cat’s voice from that Banana trying to impersonate Arnold Schwarzenegger but whatever. Adrien’s about to leave but suddenly, Marinette is kidnapped by Gabriel and Lila! Oh no! So you remember how Alix sent a video to the Class chat? Yeah so Lila’s in the class and would have access to that chat so she deduced that Mari is Chat’s Girlfriend. Then she told Gabe and yeah. Also Lila wasn’t in class that day or in most days really. Why? Cus she’s staying at Gabriel’s house. She’s hidden from Adrien tho. So Gabe holds Mari at knife point in public to draw out Chat. Adrien transforms and goes to save her but they demand he hand over his Miraculous or she be stabbed through the stomach. Chat doesn’t know what to do and so with nothing but his eyes he begs Mari to save herself but she defeatedly accepts her fate as if she didn’t, she’d be endangering everyone. So Mari is stabbed and is dying. So she dies and Master Fu quickly teleports to her deathbed to get her earrings while Cat gets akumatised and amokatised alongside Mari’s family and friends. Fu has no choice but to wear and use all of the Miraculouses in order to beat the horde. There’s a big battle and he wins but he uses so many Miraculouses (he once had 6 or 7 active at 1 time) that he’s in a critical condition and will die in a year or so. He berates CN for doing something such as “proposing” to his love interest in public and not being careful. In fact, he discourages the relationship in general because it has to be kept secret or something like this could happen. Now Fu has to train CN every night after the trip for a year and then CN has to choose a new Ladybug. So that’s the Season Finale. Of S1, we still have so much to go. Appendix 54 H: Let’s discuss some of the power scaling. So the Bunny is nerfed into just being able to see like 15 minutes of time at a specific time and place. Like you could go to the Park, use burrow and be in a past setting of the Park but you could only see like 15 minutes of the past unless you use Super Burrow which lets you see all of the past but still limited to location. Super Gift is like the Gift in Jubilation and normal Gift is like the Gift in Guilt trip. Super Clout (combined with Bee) is like Clout but you can fire it. Super Venom is like Venom but you can fire it and if you don’t hit anyone you can fire again. Super Resistance (combined with Turtle) is basically resistance but you can use it on 5 people. Super Shellter is like that Protection Spell in Marvel What IF. Super Voyage (combined with Bunny) is basically Voyage but you could teleport anywhere in the universe (before it was limited to like Planet and moon). Akumas on Miraculouses grant them unlimited use of their powers but don’t give them a super powered version except for Cat Blanc but that’s going to be explained a bit later. Now in S2 there will be something called an Advanced Transformation. It’s like a boost of power but it takes a long time to master and if you don’t, you could go insane or die. It can do many things, for the Ladybug it can give you that portal to the Miracle box (but this time only the Ladybug holder can open it) and some wings to fly. For the Cat you get uhh well you can shoot your Cataclysms. This change also applies to Cat Blanc because yes. Another boost for all Advanced Transformations is that you no longer have the 5 minute transformation rule and you can remain transformed indefinitely however if you use your power more than twice before feeding your Kwami you could seriously hurt you and the Kwami. Using your power twice would also tire your Kwami immensely and you probably can’t transform again until it has rested for a couple hours. All kwamis are different so it’s different to master each Advanced Transformation. That is probably all, I may have missed some stuff but yeah. I might make a S2 and 3 reply to this comment but I don’t really have too much of an idea on what to do for those Seasons except for like villain gets all the Miraculouses like in S4. Yeah this comment was too long
I have nothing better to do so here’s my thoughts on S2 and S3: 2 Parter: So there will be a 2 Part special of CN going through intense training every night with Master Fu dying. CN can’t stay for more than 1 night because he has his modelling and school and piano and fencing and everything. CN’s final test is going to be the whole 24 hours in a room with just the Miracle Box with no food or water or talking. To do this, Fu makes CN use the Snake Miraculous to use Second Chance about every 5 minutes for 24 hours. If CN tries to lie, Fu will use the Rooster to make a magical lie detector. So CN struggles hard and he even screams sometimes which fails the test so he has to reset the counter. Eventually, he figures it out. Oh and he Masters the Advanced Transformations for the Ladybug and Cat Miraculouses. After passing his test, Fu considers CN to be ready and passes the torch of Guardian to Adrien before passing away. The new Ladybug: So then Adrien has to choose a new holder for the Ladybug Miraculous and he chooses Alya. He then teaches Alya how to fight better and how to master the Ladybug and Cat’s Advanced Transformations. And yes I know he could’ve chosen anyone but Alya does have experience being a hero and her original Miraculous is now in the possession of the villains so pity points ig. There’s probably more reasons but there’s a lot to go through. Oh and of course Alya will be known as Scarabella. Oh and Adrien keeps the Miracle Box and Grimoire back at Fu’s place A 2 Parter I guess?: So Felix returns in this Season and Gabriel wants his ring back. Felix has hidden the ring and is mysteriously wearing a glove now. Felix tries to ask Adrien where he kept the Grimoire but Adrien just says he doesn’t have it. Felix is a bit angry but convinces Adrien to go shower and get changed for a photoshoot or smt. Felix then uses a weird device to hack into Adrien’s phone and finds the translated Grimoire on Adrien’s phone. Felix then uses some pen drive to download the Grimoire and then downloads it onto his own phone. Felix then places back Adrien’s phone to where it was. Adrien then leaves for the photoshoot and Felix goes searching some more. He stumbles upon the Robot and he’s utterly fascinated by it. Not only because of how advanced it looks but because he supplies Gabriel with advanced technology (with funding provided by Gabriel) and yet he never designed a robot like this. Then, Felix decides to make a deal with Gabriel. He reveals that the ring is part of his new weird techno glove and offers to give it and the translated Grimoire in exchange for the robot and the device that controls it. Gabriel accepts the deal and they shake hands but this only allows Felix to swipe Gabriel’s other ring. Gabriel then uses the info on the Grimoire and tells Natalie and Lila to work on fixing the broken Peacock before realising that Felix swiped his ring and asks them to work on the Space Potion while also snapping away the Akuma for the Robot he gave to Felix. Now, Felix has confirmed his suspicions that Gabriel is Hawk Moth. And in the next episode, Gabriel uses the Space Powerup to fly to London and confront Felix. Felix used the other ring and created another glove. Space Moth is about to beat up Felix when suddenly he transforms back into Gabriel. Nooroo just disappeared. After that, Felix uses his glove to make an Akuma and akumatises himself into some kind of Karate villain. He beats up Gabe and takes the Butterfly Miraculous and some extra Space Powerup potion infused food. And while all that was happening, Natalie and Lila were working on how to fix the broken Peacock. At the end the day, after they’ve attempted a few times at fixing it, Natalie locks it up in a secure vault and Lila can’t see the passcode. So she uses the Fox Miraculous to see the Passcode and get the Broken Peacock. Lila is able to fix it because she secretly sabotaged their previous attempts and spends hours making a perfect Senti-monster replica of herself. The next day, a beat up Gabriel is found on the Agreste mansion doorstep. Gabriel is furious that he lost the butterfly but at least he has the Peacock and Fox. Senti-Lila reveals that she fixed the Peacock last night and gives it to Gabe but what she actually gave was a fake Peacock that was an accessory the Senti was created with. Lila heads back home (oh and her mother didn’t do much about her staying in another house cus she’s always in another country doing idk diplomatic stuff maybe in an embassy) and snaps the Senti Monster out of existence when Gabe tries to use the Peacock. Gabriel realises he’s lost almost everything but he decides to use his wealth and power to try and force Lila and Felix to hand the Miraculouses back. Gabriel Agreste: So in the next episode, Gabriel tries to ruin Felix and Lila’s lives using his influence to try and expose Lila and Felix but Lila uses the Peacock and Fox Miraculouses to make a Senti Gabriel and the Fox for some illusions. Ultimately, Gabriel is exposed as Hawk Moth and he’s now on the lam. But Cat Noir finds Gabriel and he is pissed. Adrien’s own father. His only parent, who has been cold to him for the past couple years. And the man Adrien was willing to sacrifice his own happiness for, betrayed him and was the most evil person on the planet. CN beats up Gabriel until he’s murdered in Cold Blood. Cat Noir then feels immense guilt and is comforted by Alya because of what he had done. Some other S2 stuff: So now that Gabriel has been disposed of and Lila is in possession of the Fox and Peacock Miraculouses, Lila is the new main villain. So she will create Senti-monsters, either by sending Amoks to Parisians feeling strong negative emotions or by creating some herself. She will also use the power of illusion to maybe hide the person that has the Amok by putting an invisible dome around them. And since they can’t find the Amoks, Scarabella and Cat Noir use the Rooster to inscribe a phone or something with the ability to track Amoks. Now we also have some exposition of how you can’t use a Miraculous to track down another Miraculous because the old Order of Guardians created a precaution in case a Miraculous like the Rooster, Peacock, Butterfly or others were stolen and someone could use them to locate the Order in their hidden temple. Adrien and Alya also become closer because of their hero duties. Natalie becomes Adrien’s new Guardian and the Agreste Brand will become Adrien’s when he turns 18 (in 2 years). And because of Adrien and Alya’s new found closeness, Nino starts to feel as if Alya’s cheating on him with Adrien as they always sneak away together, they always talk to one another about things and she never goes to any dates with him at night (because Scarabella and Cat Noir have their night patrol). We also get some backstory to Lila. So basically, Lila wants power. Why? Well for one she has had a bad childhood because her mother is a politician and has to travel abroad and maybe work at embassies. And Lila’s father well she doesn’t know who he is because she was a mistake. She was conceived from a one night stand when some rubber broke. She also has drilled into her head this idea from her mother. “Without power, you can affect nothing”. Her mother once yelled it to her when she dared to ask why she had to be a politician and work abroad so much. Because her mother had an existential crisis of her life doing nothing and so she wanted to do something and affect people even if it may be for the not so good. And it’s because of this that Lila uses her powers to gain influence within Paris. She threatens the mayor, her school Principal, Jagged Stone and even Audrey. They all have to answer to her or well Volpina. And then comes the Season Finale
2 Part Season Finale “Akuma”(prelude): Felix returns! And with some frightening news: Adrien is adopted! Yes that’s right! Adrien is actually Amelie’s son and Felix’s twin brother! So Felix basically made some Space Potion things and then flew to Paris to give the adoption papers to Adrien in hopes of Akumatising Adrien for his plan. The Akuma enters Adrien’s ring but Adrien throws it away in defiance and grabs his Rapier. Felix then decides to duel Adrien and holds the Butterfly’s cane in a way that’s kinda like a fencing sword, with the sharp part facing his opponent. Felix uses his superhuman speed and strength to defeat Adrien but the commotion attracts Gorilla and Natalie. Felix’s Akuma enters his cane and he begins to fight all 3 of them. In the end, Felix is defeated and has to blast off (but not as embarrassingly as Team Rocket lol). Natalie then attempts to comfort Adrien about the shocking news he just received not only because she cares for him but because she doesn’t want him attracting any Amoks. Adrien runs off and has to be comforted by Alya, she ultimately convinces him that being adopted is actually a good thing since he’s no longer related to Hawk Moth. Akuma 2 Part Finale: Felix comes back again but this time he shows him his adopted mother’s refrigerated corpse and reveals that she too was a Supervillain and that she was behind the attacks before Hawk Moth. Felix attempts to akumatise Adrien again but he resists and tries to fight Felix hand to hand. Adrien gets pinned down and Felix tries to akumatise him again but Plagg uses Cataclysm to destroy it and the ground starts to shake. Felix escapes out the mansion before it collapses. Adrien falls into the water below (you know the water in the basement with Emelie’s corpse) and transforms into his Aquatic form and swims out of the water. Without a home, he goes to Alya where he spends the night there and sleeps with her. Not in the sus sense but like they just sleep in the same bed. Nino is pissed though since Adrien just slept with his girlfriend. Alya tries to convince him otherwise but they breakup. Felix then takes this opportunity to akumatise Alya instead into Lady WiFi. Then, he goes to Volpina with a plan. She will create a fake Scarabella to fight Lady WiFi to trick Cat Noir into a trap. If they spot the real Scarabella, Volpina will use her illusions to hide her and/or distract her from helping Cat Noir before he’s captured. Then, they can take the Miraculouses and become god like beings. The Amok that controls Senti-Bella is in the Fox’s flute and Felix (his villain name is Papillon btw) gives Volpina Gabriel’s ring with the techno-glove being part of it or rather it being part of the glove. He says that it’s for communication. They set their plan into motion but Scarabella never shows up. They still capture Cat Noir but Papillon betrays Volpina and uses the glove to steal Trixx and the Fox Flute goes to him. Volpina tries to Thor’s Hammer the flute back to her but she can’t. She’s then forced to snap Senti-Bella out of existence or else Felix will use it against her. Felix uses the power of Mirage and Lady WiFi to defeat Volpina, take her Miraculouses and the glove before leaving Lila to be taken in by Cat Noir. Felix then removes Lady WiFi’s powers and Alya feels even worse since she was akumatised and couldn’t help Cat Noir. Lila is sent to jail (not juvie) for many crimes against the state, the Agreste mansion is rebuilt (though Natalie died), Amelie has to become Adrien’s new guardian and Felix gets to stay in Paris with his mom and brother I guess. Season 3: I have even less ideas for S3 but here we go! First episode(s): Felix now has the Butterfly and Peacock Miraculouses so he can make Super Akumas and Super Amoks. But first, he uses the power of the rings and his glove to transfer Nooroo, Duusu and Trixx into this Super Computer. Whenever he wants, he can call one of the kwami’s to his glove and use their respective power. However, to create Super Akumas and Amoks he has to have both the Butterfly and Peacock kwamis active. So he transforms with the Butterfly Miraculous and uses the Peacock in his glove. Scarabella and Cat Noir then have to face their most powerful adversary ever. It’s a tough battle but they can defeat the Super Akumatised Villain and Super Senti-monster. Maybe there’s a 2nd episode of this too. Optigami: Felix uses a Super Amok to create Optigami and have it infect the Fox Miraculous. He then transforms with the Butterfly, Peacock and Fox before sending out a Super Akuma. He then goes out into the public and purposefully loses the Fox Miraculous (and just in case, he quickly transfers Trixx to the Super computer) before escaping. Cat Noir and Scarabella then keep the recovered Fox Miraculous but Felix uses Optigami to find out where they keep the Miracle Box and then steals all the Miraculouses. Adrien and Alya go to Fu’s to feed the kwamis only to find all of the Miraculouses gone and the Miracle Box empty. They are devastated by the loss. Evolution: So even with a mega nerf, Felix needs to lose the Bunny. Felix recovers after using 3 Miraculouses (including a Twin Reverse Centrifuge) at the same time. After that, he uses the glove to transfer all of the kwamis into the Super Computer but it overloads after the 4th so he has to use the Rooster to make it so that it could withstand an infinite amount of kwamis. Felix then uses Twin Reverse Centrifuge with the Bunny and Horse. He goes to Fu’s place and uses Super Burrow to try and find out Scarabella and Cat Noir’s identities. But before that, he transfers the Snake to his glove and sets up Second Chance. He goes inside the portal but it immediately dragged out by Scarabella’s Yo-yo and he snaps his fingers to use Second Chance. This time, he anticipates Scarabella’s Yo-yo and dodges it. A fight ensues and he keeps using Second Chance while Scarabella and Cat Noir are confused as to how he set up Second Chance yet he’s visibly not wearing the Snake Miraculous. Eventually, Scarabella and Cat Noir stop him for using his hands and take away the Bunny. Since Felix can’t use his Second Chance without a snap, he is forced to transfer the snake back and transfer in the dragon. He uses Wind Dragon and then uses Voyage to get away. Felix is devastated to have lost the Bunny but decides to keep moving forward. Some other stuff and explanation: So how Felix feeds the kwamis now is that he like puts some crackers onto a machine that turns the Crackers into energy and that energy is put into the Super Cimputer to feed the kwamis. At some point, Felix uses Lila to make a 2nd pair of rings and thus another glove so now he can use 2 Miraculous Powers at once using the gloves. In exchange, he gives Lila an akuma so she can escape prison. The reason why she uses Lila is because she has mastered the Peacock or well the creation of Senti monsters and so the Rooster is not very different so she can do it first try. Idk what’s gonna happen to Lila. These are all my ideas… uhh another thing I thought of is that Gabriel actually comes out in Stoneheart, the first episode. And he comes to whoop the hero’s asses. Like even after the army of Stonehearts are gone, he still is able to kick their ass before he has to run off because his Akuma is purified therefore he will turn detransform. That’s all I guess and I have even less ideas for a Fu spin off and Agreste Mini series but I have a few. Bye
I’ve pulled an idea from OrdinaryDreamer’s take on this show and I wanna see your opinion. -Instead of having the miraculous be bound to you regardless, the only way you can retire a miraculous is if it’s by your own free will. That way, no one can just take your miraculous but you can still choose to disengage with it. (I’m going to add my own little layer and say that giving up your miraculous must be what you TRULY desire. You can’t just say you’ll give it up and it comes off. You’d have to mean what you say.) This next idea is COMPLETELY my own thing. I kinda like the outfits being semi simplistic because it will give room to guardian outfits. If Adrien is to also become a guardian, I think he (and Marinette) should get a very good guardian outfit to match. - I was looking through the comments and the topic of combining miraculouses popped up. I personally don’t like the idea of someone becoming bound to multiple miraculouses forever. It can lead to a power imbalance and if we wanna get psychological, a loss of self identity. I think that the secondary miraculous shouldn’t be bound to the user but the primary miraculous is.
Thank you for sharing these ideas! They are very good! I personally like the idea of a permanent bonding (hence its inclusion in my story), but I certainly wouldn't be opposed to the idea of being able to voluntarily lose the bond in someone else's story ^_^ I would definitely be on board for outfit upgrades. It starting simple and then getting more interesting as the heroes get promoted. I don't think I've officially established the outfit situation in my version of the story...I'm still pondering on it lol Yeah, the unification is a tricky topic. Hmm...I agree that no one should have the power to be bound to too many miraculous at once. I'll have to come up with some kind of consequence for piling on miraculouses. Anyway, thanks again for the discussion ^_^
In my opinion I feel like it makes sense that you can take off the miraculous and give it to other people but I also agree with that it's annoying how they give it to someone and their the holder for 5 seconds. it gets super annoying because I wanna see the miraculous in action more!! And we have only seen like the same 6 miraculous I wanna see the other kwami's in action too and new holders too that are not Marinette's friends but someone she just had to give because there was no other choice. I also like the idea that you have to have some sort of bond with the kwami to use the miraculous but what if you become stronger as the bond between you and the kwami grow? And like you get new abilities that way too! I love these ideas! is it okay to get inspired by these? I wanna make my own Miraculous AU and I was wondering I can take some inspiration from you! Sorry I wrote so much lmfao! Keep up the amazing work! - new subscriber! :D (I would love to talk to you in chat to get your opinions on my ideas!)
There's definitely a lot of ways you can spin this Miraculous concept to where it can work. Mine is one of many ideas! I like the idea of upgrading your powers as your bond with your kwami grows X3 You can certainly use my ideas as inspiration! As long as its not an exact copy of my version here, go for it X3 I'm sure you'll add your own bit of creativity into it too X33 Thank you so much for your support and for subbing! ^_^ I'm unable to chat at the moment, but I do hope all the best in your creative endeavors!
I believe that marionette should become the caretaker of the box before she lends any miraculous out. I feel like Master Fu wouldn’t trust a teenager to find worthy super heroes.
So this is a bit old so dont know if you would see this but in terms of the show for what it is it's getting better but I do agree that it could be much better. After watching the vid it got me thinking and made some alterations. Some ideas on the show I really do enjoy mainly being that fu lost them and the whole Emily situation. But instead of outriggt death I'd like to proposition that the miraculous still ties to the souls but that you withdrawal when separated from the miraculous. Doing this could make for alot more depth this could instead be why emily got into the state shes in and I'll go more into this later but first I want to elaborate more on my thoughts of what it could be. Prolonged exposure to the miraculous is deadly in that the more you use it the more dependent you body becomes on it. However this would be able to make special situations where you can switch. Wearing one for a short amount of time doesnt really give your body enough time to become dependent but it is the prolonged exposure that does the damage. With this you can still have the moments where they switched or use another but they cannot do that constantly because they can not just continually use because they become increasingly more dependent on that miraculous. Back to emily, my idea is that she had a friend in the excavation community who was heading to Tibet to search through some ruins and Emily asked to tag along to get some ideas for her next line of clothes. While on this trip she managed to stumble across the moth and butterfly miraculous and decided to keep them finding them beautiful later on playing it off like she bought them from some locals. The only reason they were never found before was the the ruins were forbidden thought to be cursed due to the disappearance of everyone from the events of feast. Later in her hotel she puts them on activating them and revealing both of there kwamis to which she is highly fascinated with. After discovering what they can do she transforms and just messes around enjoying her new found abilities not really doing to much as to not draw attention. Through out the trip she continues playing around with the miraculous and talking with the kwamis unknowingly building her dependence on them and with her wearing to at one the dependence is much faster. Eventually she returns home and shows them to her husband and giving him the butterfly miraculous unbeknownst to them starting Emily's downfall. As time goes on she gets increasingly sick not realizing that its from not having the butterfly miraculous. This eventually leads to her death. This send gabriel into a downward spiral in which he has become obsessed with finding a way to bring her back. If the miraculous can grant them powers surely they can also bring her back. He begins searching everything he can about tibet and trying to find anything that could prove of use. As days pass he discovers that the excavation crew will be having in exhibition in London to showcase artifacts found in the ruins. Scrolling through the page eventually nooroos attention is caught by a book and he explains what it is. Learning this gabriel realizes he needs this book. He makes a plan and sets it in motion. Transforming he akumatizes a member of a the museum security to steal the book and leave it in an undisclosed location to which he retrieves it and gets to work. Seeing the book isn't in any known language he desperately flips page through page eventually coming across the page that catches his attention. Demanding to know what the page is nooroo explains that although he doesnt know what it says based off the image it's the wish granting ability of the cat and ladybug miraculous when paired together. He then goes on to explain the wish is extremely dangerous but gabriel doesnt care because that wish can bring emily back.
@@TheArtisticAloubell adding on to this and I kind of hope they do this in the show but what if the wish gabriel is wanting to make isn't bringing emily back but that they never found the miraculous in the first place. That could easily fix Gabriel's one flaw in the sense that he is impulsive and reckless. If that was the case that would still bring back emily but also in his mind justify any of his actions. If they never found the miraculous then any of the pain he has caused would have never happened so nothing he does matters in the grand scheme of things. Explains why he is so neglectful of his son why even knowing the cost he still let natalie use the peacock and why he seems to not care if someone dies.
@@ronaldmorris1462 Didnt Gabriel reveal in the show that his intent is to destroy the world and recreate it into a more ideal reality? Or something like that? Though I think your plan is a bit better for what he should wish for X3
How exceptional do you think Alya is? Up to here you probably haven't seen Hack-San yet. But you would have seen Reflekdoll. Adrien is quite exceptional too, but his use of the Lucky Charm wasn't so great. And in Hack-San you would see Alya - a 27 year old soul trapped in the being of a 13 14 15 16 year old - wasn't very successful with her Lucky Charm, was she. Do you really think Marinette got the Ladybug responsability just because she helped an old geezer cross the street? How Master Fu did it - wether he used the Bunny Miraculous or whatever - he chose -> you would say, one in a million. Maybe I would say - by shear luck she was just near by -> in Paris: one in many billions. I think a little bit the same can be said about Adrien. No disrespect to you ... maybe I'm completely wrong and give the writer(s) much more credit than they deserve, but I say: from what we saw (and yeah I know mine is just as much conjecture as yours) my take on it isn't less valid than yours. I might argue that they might have hinted at what I'm saying, in the actual show. Not everybody hits you over the head with all the mysteries right in the beginning. That's also why I find the umbrella scene at the end of the season so much cuter, as if we would have seen it just right away, just more or less as the first thing we would have seen. Yes you would have gotten the origin story, but the buildup would have been completely wasted. You can make a Captain America anthology after Iron Man has been introduced - and I prefer it that way. It doesn't confuse me one bit, getting the story told just a little bit out of linear time.
Also I feel like we never talk about the fact that it makes absolutely no sense that master fu chose children to fight against an adult supervillain because their powers are not as strong and they transform back after a single use
these ideas are really cool! i know with how you re-wrote the power system, you got rid of the time limit for their powers, but i feel like there should still be some urgency and resourcefullness to how the team ends up using their powers, so like ladybug can't just stay transformed for like days at a time and keep throwing items and ideas at the villains. maybe you could add an energy cap? like take into account how the powers are derived from the kwamis, and using the powers drains the kwamis.. idk i feel like the kwamis are only really used in the show as either like comedic relief, a random character that pops up randomly to give support, or just something to feed for powers? maybe theres a learning curve in there for the miraculous holders to learn to care for the kwamis rather than just treat them like things, because it has an effect on how much they can use their powers
The existence of kwamis bugs me so much, I really think kwamis shouldn't have a physical form but instead be voices inside their heads just like venom lol The detransformation system is annoying, also they just have one or 2 spe power, really?? Them already knowing how to fight is just unrealistic. Also I hate the fact they are middle schoolers...
I'm okay with the cute animal-fairy mascots, but i do think your ideas is cool! Each miraculous having its own distinct voice. They could also go the Shugo Chara route and make it so that only other miraculous holders could see other kwamis. I also think its a bit annoying how inconsistent it is when people use their miraculous for the first time. Sometimes its awkward and you don't know what you're doing, but most of the time they're instant masters.
I think the miraculous gives them the ability to fight but yeah I wish it only gave them enchanced strength/agility/durability but they still had to train
I have to agree with that. It feels like the writers cheated them out of good development in canon by having it so they instantly know how to fight and use their powers. Them not knowing means that Fu and the kwami have more of a narrative role. Fu could handle the physical fighting, tactics,and learning how to be a hero while kwamis teach new ways or techniques to use their powers. I know ML was never a shonen,but it would be so satisfying narrative to actually see the Miraculous wielders train and grow in using their powers over time. Shonen uses this common trope all the time and I don't see why it couldn't have worked for canon ML
I would say you don't have to get rid of the Kwanis having physical forms. I would just make it so that the fact that these are magical ancient beings is emphasized more. Have it be that their morality is just slight off compared to modern day. Make it clear that they have lived for many years and they have a lot of wisdom because of it. Have them comment on how technology has advanced and it confuses them.Have them act a little like the Fair Folk.
Are you gonna make the origins again but in a better format? I mean anything is better than the mircalous writers writing it. Liked your idea of having some brutality so much. Must say master Fu should have been hit by a car and reincarnate and then again hit by a car in front of Adrien dropping the magical jewels of both of ladybug and black cat. Should have made master Fu a spirit or something so that we would have some exploring of ladybug and cat noir. And oh Adrien development that boy doesn't get any
@The Artistic Aloubell Come to think of it, your origins scenario about Master Fu training Gabriel Agreste to be a wielder of the Ladybug Miraculous does remind me of a fanfic I read years ago before Season 3 came out. Unfortunately, I can’t remember the title or the author since it was so long ago. Anyway, in it, Master Fu’s ‘big mistake’ was that he trained someone to be a wielder of the Ladybug Miraculous. And, if I’m remembering it right, that someone went rogue, destroyed the Order Of The Guardians and later on sometime after Heroes Day, made an offer to Gabriel to help her take over the world and in return she will help Gabriel revive his wife.
@@TheArtisticAloubell Thank you for the reply. By the way, what do you think of the idea of Gabriel teaming up with a villain whose just in it to rule the world? I mean one of the things that I remember happening in that fanfic that I described is that the villain was perplexed and irritated that Gabriel would have the Wish but only use it to revive a dead person. And when Gabriel retorted to her that the person isn’t dead, the villain replied with “That’s even worse”.
@@TheArtisticAloubell It’s been a year since I made the comment but I think I found the fanfic in question. It’s called Nom de plume and it’s by an AO3 user named karuvapatta.
If anything Fu should be prioritizing finding people who aren’t prone to strong emotional outbursts, which of course hormonal teenagers are going to be great at. That should have been part of the test
Yeah, it´s a good thing the origins episodes were basically the last ones I saw of the episodes that I did watch, because I basically lost interest after seeing what should be the first two episodes setting up the whole plot for it: Basically I always thought there was a greater reason as to why Gabriel can´t just have his wish, and I assumed that was set up in the...setup. But then I found out, nope, Gabriel having his wish is just "bad", but wouldn´t it have been better to just like...ask Hawkmanguy: "Hey, what wish do you want anyways? Oh, well that doesn´t even sound so evil, infact...I think we could literally just help without using that power, yeah no problem man, we fixed the peacock along the way no biggy, have a happy laifu with happy waifu" instead, just like with the weird "no, revealing our identities is...bad...for reasons...that you don´t care about...hmmm yeah then actually it´s just me powertripping with random rules so that I can´t let you have it BECAUSE OUR IDENTITIES ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS OF THE JOB, who cares about qualification" and it´s the same with the wish, it´s just "bad" "the worst" "worldending"...somehow. But we never know why. Just because they assume Hawkyboi is a baddy? Like, come on, is this a bad spanish telenovela with 3000 episodes where the whole loveplot could be resolved by exchanging words in a 30 second conversation? Oh...oh it is. We just have to accept that the most obvious solution is somehow the worst ever. At least that´s what I took from watching the origins episodes of the actual show and it made me lose so much respect for the episodes that I had already watched because I always thought they actually had a reason for doing the things they are doing. Rather it seems that just like with the show just goes with statements first and thinking later "Ladybug is the hero" ok and somehow it feels that results in the duo at 99% power being just Ladybug when they were supposed to be equals somehow and I just have to accept it because the show is called Miraculous Ladybug, for worse or even worse writing...
@@TheArtisticAloubell Well, the reason I am harping onto it, especially in mention of their "secret identity" conundrum is because this happens at multiple points throughout the show. Specifically annoyingly when the writers don´t even respect their own powersystem, like in the Cat Blanc episode where Adriens goal and Ladybugs LITERAL eraser power basically totally align and makes me question the whole point of all the fighting going on. And this is in an episode where they wanted to show how bad this one specific thing really is and that it will totally end in absolute disaster...meanwhile I am sitting there wondering: If you want to reset everything to how it was and she has the Ladybug charm in hand with the power and goal to set back everything to how it was: Why are you fighting trying to get her Miraculous? Why are you even akumatized anymore when you were the one who ended Hawkmoth with your own power... And the kicker being: It happens twice, in one episode. We are being shown that, actually, everything about Adrien knowing her identiy was going perfectly in every way possible. The reason it went south into the Cat Blanc situation was not because "oh no the secret identity" but because when Hawky wanted to create an Akuma, he created drama by forbidding the relationship, the one they only got BECAUSE of Adrien knowing, and his plan only succeeded BECAUSE Marinette instantly went like "oh my god drama, I GOTTA GET IN THERE" when she could have just gone up to Adrien and said: "Your father forbids me from visiting you, he is a dirtbag, I love you and I will wait for you these next two or three years until you can be free of him, kthxbye" instead the writers were like: "We planned this Romeo and Julia ship so we play it out no matter what, no talking allowed...look we are writing on Shakespearean levels, aren´t we awesome!" when they very well know that they follow the formula of "we need one transformation for each of them every episode, and we need to have a fight every episode, and we need ladybug saving the day" It´s as I mentioned in another comment, the multiple ways for the show to give me what I - would - want to see in the most exasperating way possible that makes me go: NOT. LIKE. THIS...
Wow nice job 👍👍 I prefer this origin more than official one! But I don't actually like that concept of "if someone becomes Miraculous holder they will keep the Miraculous for whole life," I mean it's a good idea but I would rather go like this "if the Miraculous holder makes any*Huge* mistake which is Unforgiving then they have to give up their Miraculous" but it's my opinion and I have no problem with your concept , I respect everyone's opinion 😊 And also I would love that if you also re-write the love Square, how Adrienette met stuffs and handle Marinette's crush on Adrien (only if you want to do it and if you have time of course)
The rules I added are a bit harsh lol It definitely adds to the drama, though! XD Re-writing the love square is a bit more complex since they should have moments sprinkled throughout the show and isn't one isolated episode. But if I ever come up with something, I'll share it with you all! ^_^
I mean, technically the cat miraculous in the show can destroy the akuma, basically accomplishing the same thing lol But people don't want the butterfly reduced to atoms soooooooo
They kinda explain this in origins. Gabe is told how the powers work by the Kwami and the old man test stuff was more a last minute “just to make sure they are not assholes” test since it is made clear he already picked them for some reason as Marinette’s test was right outside her house so he could walk in and drop off the box and Adrian’s was somehow in the only spot possible where the father wasn’t helicopter parenting him at the time
Hello I like you didn’t really use the sentimonster theory because it would be weird for Adrian to be a sentimonster and you made a good backstory for gab and i would watch this story
I don't think the identity shrouding is a problem. Just saying that they look and sound different is fine with the added addendum of just changing some stuff. Say what you want about Chat's design. Its trash but changing his hair's color and consistency and slightly altering its style and giving him cat eyes does actually help in altering his appearence instead of him just being Adrian with a Domino mask on. Marinette should have gotten the same treatment. Heck. Lady Noir can be an entire different person that it was really silly that Gabe recognized that they swapped powers. The only context clue being there's a female cat themed hero and a male ladybug themed hero. So here's something that is needed. Ladybug cannot and should not be the only hero that can capture Akuma. All of them can or at the very least The Creation/Destruction Miraculous can. I think your idea is spicer but I do like idea of the capture being tied to both. It means they don't inherently need each other. The reason Chat and LB work together is because - and that's if you want to hook the love story on this - is they just do. They have a natural sync. That'll make stories interesting for when they fight. And the series desperately needs solo episodes where Chat Noir could do his own thing WITHOUT ladybug.
FINALLY someone adressed that totally messed up new york speacial like how in the everlasting fuck did they manage to give random powers to the people there?? I still can't understand what was going on there and why 😂😂😭
it's nice idea but if the origin was like this then I guess someone could point that it based on Kung Fu Panda story (master training his adopted son and promise him to get this special item and in the end [by accident] some random person got it)
Haha I did partially base the idea off of Kung Fu Panda. Or rather...once the idea got fleshed out in my head, i realized how similarly it sounded to Kung Fu Panda so I might have subconsciously used that as inspiration X'D Good catch!
Question, if ladybug is no longer allowed to bring back dead people, then dose that mean in the episode when Alex goes evil do her friends don’t come back because they technically died
Some of the episode plot points would have to change in order for this new version of Ladybug can work. Otherwise it'll be a super dark show in which people die every now and then. But since this is supposed to be a kids show, the writing for the episodes would need to change so that the friends are in danger and almost die, but don't die.
That was fun I love your rewrite of miraculous ladybug I have some ideas I have for the show first thing first thing I would change is the fact of how creepy Marinette can get next I would add more lore to the miraculous how they were made why were they made was their a great evil that appeared one day treating the world (the answer to this question is in my version yes) after that I would give Gabriel a different villain name like monarch because that name makes more sense than hawkmoth because it's a reference to the butterfly miraculous as in the monarch butterfly plus it sounds more of a butterfly theme villain than hawkmoth next I would have a more magical approach to the show sensing the show trys to imply that and that the miraculous is magical in nature but outright put the thought into the background and finally I'll add a new villain to be the main end game villain a greater evil than the first one. that's what I would do what do you think.
I completely understand your wanting Mari to be less creepy lol I would personally keep that character trait of hers, but have other characters acknowledge and tell her how not okay that is and she would have a character arc learning how to behave more appropriately towards the one she likes haha More lore is always good! I personally don't mind Hawk Moth's name, but I think Monarch would be cool and definitely more in line with the theme of his miraculous! And YES I was also thinking there should be a bigger bad guy behind Hawk Moth. 100%. Hawk Moth just doesn't feel like a final bad guy lol Thank you so much for watching and commenting! X3
@@TheArtisticAloubell your welcome I'm not a writer but I love fanfics and I always like to give ideas for stories to writers I'm interested in this rewrite of miraculous ladybug are you going to post this rewrite on fanfiction and ao3? I would love to see it.😀
@@CB7368 Thank you for the interest! But I have no formal plans on writing an actual fanfiction about it. I'm only dedicated to one fanfiction right now and I've been neglecting it for too long lol I don't really have a desire to write miraculous fanfiction. Fortunately, I know A LOT of people write MLB fanfiction and do a fantastic job at it X3
So~ Yay or nay on the livestream? I would need to figure out how livestreams work, but I'm willing to do a live speedpaint and talk about Miraculous with whoever is interested!
Also! I'm planning on my next video being a review of the new MLP movie, just as a heads up! X3
Hi
YAY on livestream
If you don't know how to use livestream then it's best to wait and do it some other time until you figure out how to use it. in other words it's a nay for me.
@@Scott_Cawthon2 hello! X3
@@thunderbro7218 If I can make it happen, I will X3
The choice of who gets the miraculous is much more serious now that its a life time commitment. Imagine Chloe being the bee miraculous holder for life. They would actually have to progress her character.
RIGHT?! Like...even if they take her miraculous away, she's the only one who can use Venom, so if they need her, they have to work with her. So definitely opportunities for character development there X3
What be interesting is if she was working with hawk moth as the bee holder then as soon as she finds out his identity she can steal his miraculous
That's a nice thought, but Thomas would 100% actually kill her off.
@@vicenteisaaclopezvaldez2450 Oh my jeez that’s horrid-
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*Laughs in excellent angst material*
Instead of having the whole class getting a Miraculous, it should only be Marinette, Adrien, Alya, Nino, and Chloe. This would give the writers more time to flesh out the characters
That would definitely make it easier for characters to get development!
Even if the same characters still got miraculous it would have worked better like how luka got his. It wasn't a case of oh look classmate or oh look there in danger. Adrien genuinely thought based off his personality he would have been better suited from the miraculous. There just wasn't a tie to lucas and the villain and aside from milynn sorry I know that's misspelled that's how it's been. I would have liked if there was more variety on who is known for it. And more villains with a miraculous. That could have especially worked well with chloe and changed how alya had received hers.
Like ladybug could have originally been trying to give Alya the bee but it got lost as what happened in the show but nobody knew that is was chloe as queen bee instead. She could have just been a petty secondary villain that just uses the miraculous to get her way and lady bug instead have alya the fox to help deal with this mistake.
one of my random ideas is that none of the characters (except chloe or/and adrien) go to marinette's school, they all go to different schools and the main way they're all friends are because of the band, i always thought it was the coolest thing ever, it was a shame the band wasn't shown often. this way, hawkmoth, who knows nothing about the band, will not suspect anything, it'll make harder for the characters to easily meet up = conflict, and just because i think the school setting is really, really boring. yes, we can get shots of marinette struggling at her school but still, this is paris!!! paris is objectively a million times cooler as city than her stupid school. they can also later add adrien to their band because he plays piano so uh ok. anyway, i would also lovee if alix was marinette's second best friend after alya, i wanted to replace alya with alix because alix has a wayy cooler superpower and her knowing both their identities while being their friend is so cool.
@@junkosllette Ooo! I like that idea! It makes Hawk Moth look less like an idiot cuz its not as obvious who the miraculous holders are X3
@@TheArtisticAloubell thanks :D
I would love for season 1 to be a Marinette season, where she learns how to be superhero and becomes more confident. I would want season 2 to be a Adrien season, where he deals with the fact his father may be or is Hawkmoth. Season 3 could be the season where they finally beat him. Maybe future seasons could deal with new villains. One thing I would like to see ghosts of holders as villains. Like maybe an extremist holder who wants to wipe out humans because they feel the world has been ruined by humans and that the miraculous should have never been used to protect humanity. I would love to see a season like this.
Oooo! REALLY cool ideas! I like it! I definitely agree that the drama with Hawk Moth shouldn't go beyond 3 seasons. One of them should have figured out one of the others identity based off of clues and it could all come to a head at the season 3 finale. I think the show needs a bigger villain, someone more threatening than Hawk Moth.
Or just other villains in general, like you said, to give the miraculous holders a reason to keep being heroes X3
I have the idea of a big bad who believes that something like miraculous do not fit to human beings, or that giving god powers to people is ridiculously dangerous, and wants to destroy them.
Or a super-hacker who has tons of information about countries and their leaders, and wants to discover the identity of the heroes to control them and use them as weapons.
@@motherfuckingenterprises7436 With a bit more development, I think villains like that would be cool!
@@TheArtisticAloubell I'm planning to make my own fanfic about this show and I'm looking for ideas, thanks for the support.
@@motherfuckingenterprises7436 Best wishes!
I know it's kinda minor but it could impact the story in a way. Marrinette has it REALLY good at the moment. Her parents own the most famous bakery in Paris 💀 I mean--- wouldn't it probably be more compelling if the actual bakery wasn't doing so great financially? Like, Her parents could be at odds with each other-- trying to find out what would be best for their daughters future and the future of the bakery. It could justify Marinette's obsession (to an extent) for the wealthy boye we all know~ Adrien. Since he's got everything and is well off financially. He would be perfect, and he could save the bakery.. (in her imaginative reality)
I dunno, it's always kinda bothered me how perfect Mari is. She needs some flaws besides being a teenager, being clumsy sometimes and having a freaky obsession over a boy.
I like that idea! It does make her character more interesting for sure!
Plus it could cause some entertaining drama between her and Adrien down the line if he ever learns of her ulterior movie.
Ladybug's outfit would make you more upset when you find out the characters taste in fashion influences the outfit (as well as personality). Which, yeah, Marinette's kinda bland in personality, but she literally loves fashion so much, you'd think the outfit would be a bit more creative (which also fits the Ladybug miraculous).
It is truly TRULY frustrating.
I think the whole ‘bonded to their owner’ concept is a good idea, I would love to see it play out if either: A miraculous is still bonded to someone, or someone doesnt want to be a hero anymore.
I could imagine in one episode it would be that they, for example, need the raccoon miraculous, then when mari goes to get it, its in the detransformed state, showing it is already bonded. This would then mean that she would just get another one and go on with her day, but it could maybe keep happening. Then one day she decides she needs to find the person (i mean what if they really needed that specific miraculous?), or a way to unbond them. She could first look for them, but not be able to find them, then really need to spend a few episodes reasearching where the miraculous came from or how to find an old owner, that would also help us learn about the miraculous ourselves.
For the other idea: They could have that one person just refuses to take it one day, they dont want the pressure of having to be a hero till they die. So LB would then have to figure out a way to solve this: Find a way to unbond them or convince them to stay a hero. And i imagine if she finds a way to unbond them, that she and a lot of other people would want to then unbond from their miraculous aswell, not wanting to do it untill they die.
That's a neat expansion on the idea ^_^
I really like your ideas, especially Gabriel having a clearer backstory and connection to the miraculous! The bonding thing is also cool (and call me biased but I like that it would mean that Chloe would get to keep the bee miraculous)! I'm glad I could help!
Thank you
I like the idea that actually someone can just steal Ladybug or Cat Noir's miraculous and use them to be a Fake Hero
19:19 I would love to see this play out in The Colector. Imagine her trying to create enough items to fill up the book pages, almost passing out and loosing the battle until chat har the practical idea of just using regular items.
That would be fun to see! ^0^
I think they should have split some of the duty in terms of approach between both characters and gave them aesopps for those approaches. Ladybug suffers from complexity addiction. It makes her a good superhero because in MOST cases her multilayered plans really do work. But she's short sighted and when something comes along that forces her to apply KIS^2 she panics or has to try harder to figure out a solution when pressed.
If they want the villain of the week format she just needs an aesopp reset (which wouldn't get boring) of having to learn to not put so much complex thought into a situation. She's had this lesson at least on 2 to 3 occasions in the entire show and it ends up not mattering.
Chat on the other hand thinks on his feet. He can see a situation for what it is and take the straight line approach. Sometimes all you need is a good hammer. But this isn't bad. He isn't just being impulsive. He's usually perceptive enough to know when a brute force solution is best. This is his one up on his partner. He WILL know when her plans are more applicable for the situation and let her take charge. His flaw will be that the implusiveness does kick in and sometimes tackling a situation in a different way will allude him. In other words he'll pretty much be series proper Chat Noir with a less smooth brain.
Its sad that Reflekdoll was on the cusp of this idea. Adrien wanted a mirror for his charm and that's what he got. He's direct and one track and the Charm gave him something to reflect his mindset. While Marinette has complexity addition so her charms makes her work for it because that's what she wants out of it. I digress.
I have an idea! The kwami have limited control over their boxes.Plagg got lost on purpose because he was eager to retire for one reason or another. Tiki sense that Gabriel had changed, because he wasn't bonded to her but she had a good enough feel for his energy since she had been around him for a while. Master fu didn't believe her so when he went to do this ceremony, tiki bounced out of his pocket
I also like the idea that if a quamie did not want to be bonded with their holder, the box would not open so there could be an element of humiliation or a feeling of betrayal driving Gabriel's actions as well
Ohhh! I like that! I think that's a cool idea for the kwami to have some control over their boxes. I think that makes some of my explanations a little less flimsy lol
Very cool contribution! ^0^
@@TheArtisticAloubell thank you :-) I always liked the wand chooses the wizard trope, and it upsets me that tiki and plagg have no say in this decision. They are literally older than time itself.
I do agree that the test was kind of stupid but I always got the impression watching origins that he had at least been scoping out these characters first. I mean, how would he know exactly when to start his little act? Very conveniently when a specific teenager was closest in view? Yeah.
I mean, wouldn’t Hawkmoth never enslave Nooroo then? If Nooroo chose not to be bonded to Gabe because he was such a craphole?
@@qasimkhan8939 good point. Maybe put him in a situation where he can't get away?
i actually was working on a google doc of a rewrite of mlb myself but i am always looking for different interpretations of how to rewrite the show because everyone has different ideas. its so cool! definitely agree with fixing master fu's decision and the magic system. literally anything is better than what master fu does in canon. having master fu not pick them at all and it being a total accident, and gabriel being the one trained is SUCH a unique and fun decision. in canon there's barely any relationship between marinette and gabriel, they don't know each other at all besides through adrien. its not unseen in shows but its weird that for the most part marinette is not personally affected by gabriel in some way beyond him being an annoyance lol. in this scenario marinette and gabriel have a lot more parallels just by nature of both getting the ladybug miraculous and that alone is so interesting. and master fu actually caring about these kids getting hurt and killed... actually training them. 😭😭😭😭 stop i wish the show actually had me care about master fu.
and the magic system!!!!! definitely agree that the lucky charm should give her what she wants. its so weird actually because it seems like that's what it does for adrien in reflekdoll? i was like, "wait why doesn't ladybug do this all the time?" the entire time watching. its crazy to me that adrien came up with an actual plan and then followed through. and then it didn't work? and marinette had to figure out the entire plan there... and then marinette never tries to make what she wants ahead of time ever again. either way, lucky charm actually showing marinette coming up with a plan ahead of time and then getting the item would be so great, because i get so confused by her plans in the show lord lmao. and definitely agree miraculous ladybug shouldn't bring people back to life and there shouldn't be time travel. i feel like to handle time travel well you have to plan your entire story out meticulously which mlb just... does not do. and chat noir having an actual use god bless!!!!
definitely had a different way of rewriting the show but that's whats fun about hearing others ways of rewriting it. there's SO many ways they could have taken this show and its really amazing to see people get creative with the concepts. definitely would love watching ur version of miraculous!!!!!
This is such a nice comment! X33
I love this and I am offering to be Ur editor because I wanna see this done
If its okay, I would love it if you let us read your version of the rewrite!
Im also rewriting about the show xD
Even though i sorta forgot about it
I wouldn' t want to make it public cause i dunno maybe the specials would make a cool concept.
But basically yea i fixed master fu, but i made him sort of creepy watching like a LOT of people how they lived, their families etc.
But like chosing ladybug and chat noir only of curiosity since he choose usually on grown ups, he had the idea and it wasn't bad at first till an actual threat was presented and well he fucked up
To seperate from your miraculous difinetely you had to say "i renounce to you 'kwami name' " since most of their powers activate with speak
Both teens offered to help, Master fu gives them a chance
Yadayda Alya Older Sister becomes the guardian
And some adults have some miraculouses
Time travel doesn't exist
ChARacTeR dEVeLoPmeNT
Honestly, I wish the show just let Cataclysm work on the Akuma butterflies too so both Ladybug and Cat Noir could deal with that power on their own (since they're both supposed to be the strongest over other Miraculouses). Naturally, the show would lean toward Ladybug purifying them because Cat Noir feels bad about disintegrating (killing) them.
I definitely like these ideas compared to what the show does, especially the idea of being bonded with your Miraculous for life, meaning they can't just be taken so easily (makes up for the dumb moment in Lady Wifi where she has Ladybug right in her grasp and Hawkmoth, for whatever reason, doesn't just get the earrings and instead tells Wifi to release Ladybug and force her to use her Lucky Charm. It was definitely a Plot-Induced Stupidity moment).
Reminds me of Max Steel with Steel bonding to Max to not only regulate his TURBO energy but also create Turbo Modes.
Thank you! ^_^ I'm glad you like the ideas I came up with haha
I don't know if anyone mentioned this already, but the reason Marinette's outfit is so plain is because she wasn't ready to accept the responsibility as Ladybug. The costumes are supposed to be what the user wishes/wants. The fix-it that I've heard, that is also my favorite, is that her costume would change when she accepted the responsibility. They could have done that when she became guardian.
I've heard about that explanation. Unfortunately, nothing in the show really confirms that, and its not really addressed by anyone, which is annoying DX
If what you say is true, then YES her outfit absolutely should have changed once she was more comfortable as Ladybug.
There's 2 implications of pre-Origins when it comes to the Agrestes knowing about the Miraculous.
1.) Emille. That's it. We honestly don't know anything about her other than she was apparently a movie star and lowkey equally as worse a parent as Gabe. She could have had an intimate connection the Miraculous. or...
2.) The Agreste are amateur occultism buffs. Between the book with the Guardian text, information of the prodigious etc. etc. Emilie had a deep fascination Chinese mythology. which could have lead to the miraculous. A worse by tangential case is the obsession with Gabe's brand which is a butterfly. And he sought fashionable material to reflect that obession including coming upon the Moth Brooch.
I had an idea once about a more logical reason for Fu to give Adrien the cat miraculous, although it does require him to not want the cat miraculous to be used.
Fu, knowing the capabilities of Plagg and knowing how his temptation has caused him to misuse a miraculous before, searches for the most pacifistic person he can find who would never use the destruction power. Adrien, being a caring, artistic child with an image of purity seems perfect, but Fu doesn't realise that giving him power is exactly what gives him freedom to break out of that image and create his alter-ego cat noir.
That would of course require Fu to study this teenage boy long enough to know this much about him but YES that would be a better reason to give someone the miraculous rather than "they helped me across the street that one time" lol
It's a neat idea ^_^ Thank you for sharing! ^_^
Some people have the headcanon that Fu had been observing Adrien and Marinette for some time, but the show itself doesn't try to defend its nonsense.
Welp. As they say, if it isnt shown or said within the show, it's not canon lol
I don't think the idea of an old man observing two teenagers for a period of time sounds right. It just doesn't sit right with me.
@@loveyphoenix494 Yeah, I agree lol. Brings up a lot of questions and concerns XD
You're not wrong, Phoenix.
Ok so hear me out, what if we had a villain that had no miraculous, or is it least aware of them enough that he wants to have them. So for an idea, imagine a big tech CEO type guy who is secretly evil and plans on conquering the world, but is having a hard time coming up with ways to do so. He ends up discovering the fact that the miraculous exists, and decides he wants them to help him in his plans. So in order to do so, he builds robots with different abilities and weapons and sends them out to fight the heroes and capture or kill them to take their miraculous. This would let the show keep its monster of the week formula, while also providing a villain after hawkmoth's defeat. It would also help Adrian's role as the robots are not sentient and he can use cataclysm on them without having to worry about killing an innocent person. The villain could also send out Mook robots that could act as henchmen for the main robot that let fights be more dynamic. Maybe even have an episode where the villain makes robot doubles of the heroes with weapons to match (ladybot would probably have a built in fabrication machine and mechanoir could have a sound wave weapon that instantly vaporizes things). Just some ideas.
A thing that should happen in the story is that the spell on the kwamis would either be broken or it never was casted. That way when the say the transformation words the Kwamis won't be vacuumed into the miraculous without there consent.
Ooo! I think that would be a cool concept as well! I like it! ^_^
I think Fu should have let Tikki and Plagg out an choose who they think are worthy for certain amount of time in a day an then come back. They do this everyday til they find someone. Tikki and Plagg spy on Marinette and Adrein for afew months and then the appear in there room. After that Tikki and Plagg explains everything and then the tell Marinette and Adrein to go to Master fu's house and he explains why hes doing this and he tells them to help stop some crime. They do that and then at the end of the episode we see Gabriel transforming and sending out an Akuma. In the second episode Chat and LB goes and fights the villain. After struggling they manage to finally defent him and then idk- I haven't anned the whole thing and ik it isn't perfect but I think it is better than the original.
A lot of these rewrites are better than the original X'D
Almost anything would have been better than Master Fu's two attempts at crossing the street. It just raises more questions and concerns than necessary DX
But the idea of the kwamis choosing their holders seems cool! Like if while spying on their candidates they witness a certain personality trait that is consistent and gels well with their ideals. And, yeah, after a while, they officially choose them X3
Cool idea!
Wow a back story that ACTUALLY makes senses and addresses the fact that they are children!
😎✨✨👍
When the fans are better then the actual writers 😆
XD
So fun fact: Ladybug’s outfit was design by Astruc himself, her outfit was inspired Astruc’s friend with her white shirt that have a ladybug at the middle
Interesting fact!
@@TheArtisticAloubell thanks 😊
That's actually cute!
This had no right to be this good ! Like wow !
Also , I'd like to add to the idea of miraculouses being bond to their owner for life that they're the only one who can see their kwamis , that will lead to interesting and funny dynamics between the kwamis if two holders meet with each other
Thank you! I'm glad you liked how it turned out X3
That would be a cool idea too! Or even so that only kwami holders can see kwamis, that could work too. But I do see some fun shenanigans happening if only the holders can see only their own kwami and no one elses. X3
16:52 This solves so much in the story and honestly something I did come up with for a rewrite. Given how many people interact with both of Marinette's and Adrien's personas, it's ridiculous to think nobody could put two and two together. Literally.
EXACTLY. Like, the show tries to tell us that there are magical shenanigans afoot that make it so that they can't be recognized, but there's so many counter examples in the show itself that disprove the "quantum masking" stuff. They need to commit to that idea if that's what they're going with, otherwise, it makes no sense.
Actually in the show it is stated that Gabriel, Emily and Natalie have been on a journey for magical artifacts and have accidentally found the miraculouses and the book that Fu has lost in Tibet long time ago. Yes, he probably couldn't translate the book but probably he made the kwamis tell him everything they know about the miraculouses and their powers. I think that it was first said in the episode Volphina and since then they are only giving us clues to the whole story. I hope they will actually show us the whole story in the new seasons because it will answer so many questions and we will be able to understand some of the most important characters of the show much deeper.
I honestly think that Ladybug and Cat Noir should both be a leader/guardian and train by Master Fu because he chose them for a reason in order to save Paris. So if Marinette sees Master Fu so much then why can't Adrien do the same (well, maybe in different times)? It is just not fair if one of them has to see while the other has to stay and fight the villains. That is why Cat Noir had some issues with her in season 2 and so forth. Also, it is harder to keep their secret identities as the series goes on. The more you keeping your secret, the more problem you get.
I get that fans dislike where Ladybug gives the Miraculous to her classmates like candies. I mean I feel like they should be permanent just like other Magical Girls series did. Sometimes the way I see is that she just grabbing them in order to defeat the villains (Like in Mega Leech where she just used the 4 heroes, commands them what to do in 5 seconds, and you're done basically.) But...I'm really hoping that they should keep it in later seasons.
I would love to read your version of the story! ❤❤
I definitely agree that Ladybug and Cat Noir should share the guardian spot. The extra emphasis put onto Ladybug seems weird since they are supposed to be equally powerful and important.
For sure the whole secret identities thing should have been dealt with a while ago as realistically it would have been hard to keep it up for so long.
I definitely think everyone should keep their miraculous and when they do, they should have more purpose than just showing up for 5 seconds once every season >__<
Thank you, dear, for watching and commenting!
You know what I would love? Cat noir finds out about cat Blanc (maybe an episode where the villain reveals the worst fears of a character and that's what pops up for ladybug) and to avoid turning into cat Blanc learns that Akuma blocking technique from Sue Hahn. Adrian has such a strong level of restraint, the problem is he uses it to bottle up his emotions. It would be interesting to see how that was dealt with if he were trained
@@Fairygoblet that would be cool! I'd love to see that kind of development for Adrien/Cat Noir x3
ooh another cool idea would be if there wasn't really a mentor at all and the way the show progressed would be marinette trying to research her culture and finding old books with lore etc since the show is based of Chinese mythology and marinette is half chinese. her identity crisis and no attachment to her culture would also be relatable and understanding to other mixed kids watching, i just find that sweet. they way adrien would mentor himself could be, uh, lets say plagg. plagg always came off as alcoholic dad to me, someone who doesn't really care about their kid and just lets them do whatever they want. so seeing him trying to mentor adrien would be comedic and fun. then the question comes, why didn't tikki just mentor marinette? maybe because she was the goody two shoes and solely believed that the only right way to do something was the traditional and original way and pushed marinette to research herself and refused to help her?
I love your ideas! And in regards to Gabriel knowing about the miraculous, I think I remember him saying he went on a trip to Tibet with his wife?
Someone correct me if I’m wrong... but I guess they found the Butterfly and the Peacock ones while they were there.
The rest they were kinda vague about. I guess they’re waiting to reveal why Gabriel and Emilie were messing around with the miraculous in the first place.
Ah! thanks for the info!
Though it seems its still pretty vague how they know so much info about the inner workings of miraculous and the miracle boxes. Like...how did he know that the ladybug plus cat miraculous equals wish?
The backstory there definitely needs some expanding lol
I think he found out how the miraculouses work by studying that book that master fu lost
Master Fu doing his test in front of a high school creates a selection bias for teenagers.
Right?! XD
It's also so lazy on his part, too going for the first two people who help him.
I want to see him going through a process of finding the individuals! Not just going with the first two who show up!
I think the answer to Gabriel knowing about the miraculous is because he somehow had the miracoulous book (and somehow found the peacock and butterfly miracoulous). Now that brings up the question, how did he find it? I think it’s hinted or there is a theory that adriens mom found the miraculous and used the peacock and got sick because of it.
I really like your rewritten except for the death part. Like I like it because it does add more stakes to it but at the same time, when rewriting we have to keep in mind for who it is written for. For little kids (and while kids could handle grim matter for example avatar the last airbender, I think it’s still too direct especially for the first season). I think there should be an item or something that would allow miraculous holders to be separated from the jewel but it was lost with the temple when fu ran away. Fu could be like “look ladybug and chat noir, at this moment there is no way to remove a holder from the Kwami, only through death.” Which lets us and ladybug and chat noir know that right now there isn’t, but in the future there COULD be a way.
And so when/if the temple comes back, it gives “another goal” for chat noir and ladybug besides finding hawk moth. Maybe marionette decides or starts really thinking about giving up her miraculous. After all, that is what she wanted at first and with the return of Master Su-Han kinda pressuring her and using the same argument as the episode (with the items that can separate the holder and kwami) she starts giving in.
then chat noir tells her “look at all we have accomplished, we may have been chosen accidentally but we have grown and proven ourselves time and time again. Yeah, we might not have been able to capture hawkmoth yet but we are what París needs. We care bout the people, the city, and if we give up and give back our miraculous to some dude that doesn’t care about Paris, just the protection of the miraculous, then our loved ones will end up hurt” or something like that.
Master su-han could be more about “the greater good” character. Saying something like “ when hawkmoth realizes that ladybug and chat noir gave up their miraculous he will give up as well, eventually. Or something like that
That's good info to know! thank you!
But yes, I too would like to know the circumstances under which he found the book. I wish the Gabriel Agreste episode went into his backstory >.<
I see what you mean about the "till death" think being a bit harsh. Although I do suppose it really depends on what the target audience is. If the target audience is for people under 10, then yeah, it is a bit extreme. I do like your idea of there being a way to release the bond, but it being obscure or lost. I think I can work with a similar idea, although what I have in mind is a bit darker.
Lol Admittedly, my version of Miraculous is for older kids or maybe even teens X3
@@TheArtisticAloubell i think its still possible to make death the only other option to separate a holder if the audience is for younger kids but it would have be talked about very carefully and not be direct (like "the holder and kwami can only be separated when the holder is no longer with us" or something like that).
And to build upon "my idea" is that even if it is an option, this "safe" option is pretty painful, like UNBEARABLY painful and it ciuld be because you go through the memories of each previous holderor something. so that is why even if it allows you to continue living, it causes pain.
but it makes sense, your version is pretty cool and awesome!
Master Fu: “yeh imma just walk across da street and see if anyone is willing to help me, then I’ll give them deez extremely important and valuable items that are able to destroy the world. WHAT CAN GO WRONG?!” ,:D
As the Grinch once said, "BRILLIANT!"
One thing always bothered me about ladybug was definitely her outfit, and something else. Ladybugs fly. Not for long but they fly. I WANNA SEE A CUTE HOVERING LADYBUG with cute sparkles. Or not sparkles come and go. But hovering ability for short periods could be nice. Also i want the cape/wings thing on the outfit. Make her look like a ladybug.
Also why does queen bee not have healing powers? Queen bees don't do anything but make babies for a colony. It would be her duty to keep the colony save or on this case the miraculous holders save. Also BEES FLY have her be a flyer support character which conflicts with her personality and makes her a better person because she needs to learn to help people. MAKE THE THINGS THAT FLY FLY
There is this Marvel character named Niko Minoru who is a magician who wields the staff of One. It is OP as hell and can do anything you ask it to. The only rule is that you can only say the word or phrase once. You can only say "Sleep" once. If you want to redo that move, you might try "tranquilize" or "pass-out". I think it could be a cool quirky mechanic here. She will get a couple of easy missions but start to struggle after the first few episodes. By Season 4, she would be yelling "Vasovagal syncope"
Ooo! that's a cool idea! Very neat!
Would you consider writing this idea on Wattpad? I'd love to see more of this! I think it's a interesting concept and I'd also love to see how this show/story would go. Especially on how each person (other then Marinette and Adrien) would gain their miraculouses. One thing I ask tho, is will Adrien be the same as he is in the story or will he have a different persona? Also how would Marinette handle her feelings for Adrien? (considering people really want to see them together) Sorry for the length of this, I just really wanna see how this wonderful idea would go and if you'd make it into reality.
I'm so glad that you like this idea I came up with!
Unfortunately, I do not have any plans on making this into a full fanfiction as I feel it would be rather involved haha
I already have a non-Miraculous story I'm working on and I honestly don't have the time to devote to flushing this idea out.
Buuuut I will consider making a follow-up video with some other ideas I can add to this concept X3
As for Adrien, I think he'd be mostly the same but with a bit more pent up anger.
Marinette's crush would be there, but I'd have their friendship develop a little more naturally and have her grow out of that stuttery awkwardness rather quickly.
This would look so good turned into an anamatic storyboard! I can already imagine the whole episode
I'm glad you like how it turned out X3
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I love this concept! It would reflect more of how Marinette would think as a person therefore adding to her character development
And for the countdown bit where the miraculous beeps, maybe the bigger or more powerful the item is, the quicker she starts to transform back, so if she were to create something big and powerful, she may only have 1 min left before she turns back into Marinette but if she makes something smaller and less powerful (but she can still use it in an efficient way to defeat the villain) the less amount of time will be taken away from her de-transformation countdown
I think their costumes should be first a re-election of them when they get their miraculous. As they use their miraculous they get power ups that will change their suit. so as they gain skills and knowledge about being heros the suits that form on them change to reflect that (ie more detail, complex patterns, extra accessories).
I really love this idea!
However, there is one alteration I would make to it: have Gabriel critically injure Master Fu in a fit of rage for losing the ladybug miraculous. Then have Master Fu hospitalized in a medically induced coma. This would explain why he doesn't tell Cat Noir and Ladybug Hawkmoth's identity. And then bring him back into the story recovering after Hawkmoth is defeated by having him train Cat Noir and Ladybug.
haha yeah, someone else noticed the plot hole of why Master Fu doesn't just tell Adrien. I'm gonna do a part 2 at some point to address it lol
But that's a cool suggestion you gave ^0^
And I'm glad you like my rewrite--thank you!
I really like the new story and power system in the story! It's much more interesting and high-stakes
Thank you! I'm glad you like it
Ok. So first off, giving Gabriel Ty lungs backstory from kung fu panda is actually a great change and giving mari a less serious spiderman origin is also great
I definitely much prefer this story. Do you write fanfics? Or like...books in general? Cause you should. And I'd read it
Hahaha nice job catching onto the inspiration x3
I think when I initially thought of the concept, I didn't realize I was referencing Kung Fu Panda, and then it doned on me lol
@@TheArtisticAloubell hey, its a good idea :) and it works really well in the context of your alternate show
ALSO, giving mari scribblenauts powers!?! Chefs kiss. So much cooler. AND THANK YOU for giving chat noir a reason to exist!! It bothers me so much that they give them ties to yin and yang but mari is basically the ONLY one who is like... neccisary.
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It's actually kind of disappointing that the show doesn't fully utilize the Ladybug holder's powers of creativity. But hey, it's Astruc's vision and I guess he just didn't intend the show to be like that.
A girl can dream, though! Haha
I'm glad you like my changes x3
Seriously poor Cat Noir for not having much to do! Their superhero duo needs to be more balanced for sure.
There are SO many "super easy, barely an inconvenience" moments in this show.
XDD
This is so much better than what the show did. It makes me sad though because it reminds me of the potential This show has with its ideas and premise that it either completely ignores or ruins by doing something stupid.
Thank you
Third option as to how Gabriel and Fu would have met.
It's said Gab found his miraculous in ancient ruin on a globetrotting thing or something, so instead of *that*
he meets Fu on said trot and takes interest in his practices of self reflection and training in the arts of heroism and general do-goodieness.
So he becomes his pupil, and sense is right there and everything Fu plans for him to be the next Ladybug hero.
Until things go terribly wrong yada-yada anime backstory.
I have my own rewrite in my notes and i made the s1 finale a proper one cannot wait to see yours!!
Thank you for being here
I have bad facial recognition due to my autism and I like the idea that the same sort of effect happens with miraculous holders, where it’s almost like their features and any recognisable elements aren’t perceived because ✨magic✨ makes it so the persons brain physically can’t hold onto the information
I have got many ideas for a fixed version of this show. Problem is...they aren't very child friendly. I mean, in my scenario, I talk about smoking, drinking, death penalty (based on the epidode of "Criminal Minds" in which Penelope visited a killer on the death row), serial killings (don't worry, it's just one villain and the people might have deserved it), psychological descent into madness...
Oh my gosh, that is awesome! This show needs a different group of writers that actually care about it and know what they are doing.
Listening to this after part 4, the audio quality has improved dramatically!
Thanks! ^_^ I'm STILL figuring things out! ^0^
Your idea for a Miraculous bonding with the wearer and not able to be used by anyone else until the current holder dies reminds me of the Devil Fruits in One Piece.
Oh my goodness I didn't even pick up on that lol
LISTEN. IT MAKES MORE SENSE WITH EVOLUTION, AND I REFUSE TO BELIEVE THAT IT WAS PLANNED. like i refuse to believe anything other than the fact that they heard us complaining and so they made it "make sense"
I loved the MUCH NEEDED rewrite but there are some problems;
- If a miraculous is bonded with you for life, i'm assuming we won't see unifications of miraculouses.
- If the power of the Rabbit miraculous changes, so does it's concept. (This goes for rabbit)
- The new change in the Ladybug miraculous makes it the SAME thing as the Genesis from the Goat Miraculous.
Also, if the rat miraculous power would be shrink or grow doesn't make sense if the rabbit miraculous is going to shrink + multiply already.
There will be no mention of the rabbit miraculous in this rewrite, so let's just assume it doesn't exist lol
Unifications are rare in this reality, yes.
The goat will also not be mentioned, so let's also pretend it doesn't exist.
If I were to include the goat and/or rabbit, then yes, their powers/concepts would be different.
But I'm choosing to ignore them altogether XD
@@TheArtisticAloubell Thanks for the answer! Im loving this series so far!
@@phinnmiawrr3419 I'm glad you're enjoying it
so is Master Fu going to tell them Hawk Moth is Gabriel Agrest or does he not think that's important? Does master Fu know Adrien in Cat Noir?
Hmm...that's a good question!
I guess if we wanted the show to end quickly, then yes! LOL But if we want to stretch the story out, them we can say that Master Fu is too ashamed of his mistake to want to tell them Hawk Moth's identity. As for if Master Fu knows Mari and Adrien's identities...maybe at some point Mari and Adrien reveal themselves to Master Fu after hearing about his past relationship with Hawk Moth. They do this at separate times so they don't learn each other's identities.
When Master Fu finds out that Adrien is Cat Noir, he is VERY shocked and even more ashamed of the situation. He struggles with whether or not to tell Adrien the truth. He knows that Gabriel is a bit unhinged right now, so maybe him knowing Adrien's identity could be problematic as he doesn't know if Gabriel would be willing to sacrifice his own son. So...at least for the mean time, no he doesn't tell Adrien.
Part of Master Fu's character arc could be him learning to trust his protegees again and trust that they can handle the situation.
I guess this plothole could be solved by saying Gabriel already has the two miraculouses (like in the show, found them with his wife) but didn't tell anything to Master Fu. This way, when he leaves, Master fu doesn't know Gabriel is Hawkmoth.
Hi! I finished Bonds Beyond Fate already, but I finished this before watching the show. Because of you though, I decided to watch all 5 seasons and yeah, I can really see the impact..your ideas are great!!
Aww thank you!
@@TheArtisticAloubell yayyyy
As of ladybugs outfit, I believe it was due to the fact that she wasn’t ready to become a superhero, and saw it as an annoyance, while Adrien saw it as an escape, the costumes reflect their personality which is why it was so basic ( I may not be 100% correct )
Yeah, I heard that reason...I can almost accept that if Mari had gotten an updated outfit that she wears all the time since she's now accepted her role quite a while ago. I know she has an updated outfit now, but it only shows up when she does her Lucky Charm. If I honestly had to guess why its like that, maybe the animators don't want to do a new transformation sequence or something??? Idk
@@TheArtisticAloubell I really miss her outfit in the anime PV, disappointed they didn’t keep that
It would be cool for bonded miraculous to be able to be swapped, because of yin and yang and power balance. Not because im in love with lady norie or anything. (Then again the same results could be achieved with a power swapping akuma)
Interesting!
(My AU = Adult AU)
Marientte works as a fashion designer, meanwhile Adrian and Felix is a model.
Adrian is Gabriel's cousin, making sense since Adrian had a cousin (Felix) in the actual show, so they must be a auntie / uncle in the family.
This will be the same in this AU, Felix and Adrian are brothers, 1 day, both of them meet Marientte.
This'll happen because, they've been looking for new clothing for their career.
After both Adrian and Felix search the streets of Paris and look online, they were suggested to go this shop.
In there, they finally find the clothing designs they'd need, at this point, they meet Marientte.
Marientte had just opened a new shop with her designs displayed. Right away, she started to gain popularity, not that much though, people started recommending Marientte's shop, this is how Adrian and Felix got suggested to go there.
That's all, u can use this if u like, ♡
(That goes for anyone who sees this).
I think this can be a good start to a story! =D
3:52: if you are surprised with that, you never met parisian people before😅
I love the new origins!!I hope the show had that...
haha thank you
14:50 the irony of that statement is imessurable
X'DDD
This makes me wanna watch miraculous to see how the original came out compared to yours because I love yours way better and I don’t remember the first episode…
Oh wow, thank you!
@@TheArtisticAloubell ya… you’re welcome!
One of your videos about MLB popped on to my yt feed and I've been watching the whole playlist today, I wish Miraculous followed this storyline instead the mess created by Thomas Astruc
People usually say "oh but it's just a kid show is not really that important" like kids are stupid or something, there's amazing shows like Avatar TLA that were meant for kids too and had a deep and well written story and characters, so I don't think it's exactly unrealistic to expect the level of quality from your storytelling on a kids show
Aww thank you so much for supporting
3:10 you know the scene where master Fu trying to reach his staff due to his in the middle of the road.
Do you know what the people of Paris did?
They starring at their phone and acting as if nothing had happened. That even includes the adults
The people of Paris are either blind or they are ALL just awful >.>
Not to mention that the background characters are look very similar with the others and only them have a different colour.
For example, there's a blonded hair version of mallon.
6:22 Nuroo actually explained to Gabriel on how the Miraculouses work and about the ladybug and black cat wish thingy
Thanks for the info ^_^
@@TheArtisticAloubell no problem
Nino and Master Fu should somehow gain a relationship. Because if Miraculous' only come undone when the user dies, and Nino is the next turtle Miraculous user.... well... then one day Nino will have to be the one to shoulder the burden when the old man dies.
Maybe with Nino becoming Adrian's best friend, Nino actually becomes Adrian's confidant. That or Nino stumbles on the secret kind by accident, and that speeds up the friendship factor between Adrian and Nino.
Maybe once Nino learns, Master Fu makes it his business to meet the young man, and make SURE he keeps quiet. Nino is thoroughly interrogated and after he learns how serious the situation is, he makes it his own mission to help no matter what. And maybe...some of that help is meeting up with Master Fu to keep a line of communication open between the two (since Adrian Fu learns that Adrian is Gabrie's son and BASICALLY jailed, and so he'll have almost no way to contact the boy without putting himself at risk) and eventually helping Fu with Guardian duties. Maybe helping him find Charms and stuff instead of it just being Mary (like the potions or just gathering ingredients for him). Maybe Nino's family has a very strict respect your elder's policy that makes him want to do extra errands for Master Fu, and they genuinely start having a friendly relationship.
This could even work on Master Fu's end because after Gabriel betrays him, it must have been like losing a son. Especially since Fu has to go into hiding because Gabriel turns his connections and money methods of capturing Fu, forcing the elder into hiding. So when Nino starts assisting him...it's almost like gaining another son. And at first he doesn't notice because Gabriel and Nino are as opposite as two people can be... but eventually he finds himself growing attatched to him and maybe seeing him as another son/ grandson he never had.
So when Fu passes, possibly by Gabriel finding out where he's hiding and attacking his home, it's Nino who's there with him in his dying moments. And before he passes... he asks him to bring the miracle box to Marinette.
And when he gives Nino the turtle Miraculous, he says something like "You'll never be alone in your mission. I will always be there to protect you..." implying he is the shield in the Miraculous (which might also imply that when a wielder dies, a part of their soul remains in the Miraculous forever... whoa...)
And now I'm making myself sad! Thinking of Nino having that last message and responsibility given to him by a surrogate grandfather.
(As a side note, this means Nino would be one of the last people to gain a Miraculous of the main characters.)
I like your ideas! You have very similar thoughts as I have regarding this issue. Lets see how it plays out! ^_^
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Yay! I hope you don't mind but I just watched your third video in the series and gave an idea on how some people got their Miraculous. I hope I didn't over step in your story! I just got SO invested and immediately started making fan theories.
A bunny miraculous idea that has to do w time but not as broken: freezing time for a certain amount of time, 10 mins top
That would be cool!
I know this video is six months old but I thought I’d shed some light on a question of yours. Yes they said how Gabriel found out about the miraculous. He went on a trip with his wife far away where he found the miraculous of the butterfly and peacock, along with a book explaining the miraculous and the kinds of powers you could get from them. Only thing about the book is that it has information on what has been found out, so there are still plenty of secrets the miraculous have
Yeah, I have found that out since then haha. But thank you!
Did the show ever mention why the peacock and butterfly miraculous were separated from the other miraculous and why the book was with them?
@@TheArtisticAloubell yes they did. In one of the episodes, hawk moth and miyura finds an old sentimontster. Master Fu learns about it and explains to Mari what it was. Fu made it when he was only a child because he wanted some food during his training when he was forced to watch the box. His anger and hunger made the monster that would eat the miraculous. A guardian told him to run with the book to safety. While escaping the sentimonster, he ended up loosing both the peacock and butterfly miraculous along with the special book. Hope this helps :D
@@lordmage3694 thank you for the clarification! X3
@@TheArtisticAloubell you’re welcome! And thanks for making the vids! Found you through Cyrus the Great and you just gained a new sun :3
@@lordmage3694 thank you so much 🥰
Well writing a better origin for these characters is super easy barely an inconvenience
You get a cookie for that 🍪😎
@@TheArtisticAloubell excuse me don't tease me with cookies plzz I'm already hungry
In Canaan Gabriel found out about the miraculous from Natalie but we don’t know how Natalie found out about the miraculous
One idea of how Adrian gets the cat miraculous is that his father had been secretly hiding the cat miraculous in his room, office or somewhere no one would go to, not even Master Fu. Perhaps he locks it in a safe that only he knows the combination to. Adrian gets a hold of it one day when his father is looking for the ladybug miraculous, after finding out Master Fu lost it. Adrian was hoping to spend time with his father, but he’s away and decided to take something he knows his father would look for in hopes to gain his father’s attention. Perhaps pretending some thief stole something from his dad and he found the thief and brought back the item. Adrian breaks into his father’s safe, knowing his father always uses his mother’s birthday as his combination, then takes the ring. At first, he just looks at it, then puts it on. Some shenanigans happen and he becomes Chat Noir, seeing his super hero identity as an escapism, while also deciding to hide that he has it from his father. His father, on the other hand, can either have always know the holder of the cat miraculous was his son or believes the holder of the cat miraculous is a thief that stole what was his.
That's a really cool idea too! Very nice! That would have made the show interesting, for sure X3
@@TheArtisticAloubell Thanks. I took a bit from my own experiences of dealing with neglect when I was at the same age as Adrian. Going into my parents' room and taking things was something I did sometimes.
I’m working on my own rewrite of the show and I LOVE these ideas, especially the bonding because even in mine I feel there’s a weak reason to keep Chloe as the bee holder. Gabriel’s reason to be in the plot is also better in yours and I do like the power scaling but you definitely have to address the Rooster. Also I know I’m more than a year late but whatever. I have some ideas for my one and I’m taking some inspiration from you, Cyrus and some other Miraculous reviewers. Not saying you only do Miraculous but I mean people who review the show some amount of times. I definitely need to work on some things like I don’t really know what to do for my S2 tho I do have a good idea for S3 (the last one). And yes 3 Seasons to my one and maybe some backstory spin offs like an Agreste/Fathom short series and a Backstory for Fu series in fact I already have some ideas for both of those. I doubt you’ll see this but if you do good job Alou! I feel like a rambled a lot about my rewrite… so let me tell you everything I freaking have! Haha!
2 Part Origins (S1 beginning):
Now Paris is recovering from some “attack” that happened about a month back (and coincidentally so did Emelie’s death! Wow! I wonder if that has anything to do with it) and so is Master Fu. So Fu is shown coughing and just being ill. Wayzz advises Fu to take some rest but Fu is remaining diligent for any attack. Wayzz suggest that the old man choose 2 new Miraculous holders, 1 for the Ladybug Miraculous and 1 for some other Miraculous. Fu uses the Rooster and in my version the Rooster has the power of Inscription. It basically can make a non sentient and non magical object magical. The object won’t have the same power of a Miraculous but more of a Miraculous weapon like you can create the Turtle’s Shield but not the Turtle itself. Get the gist? Also the only way to get rid of the inscription is to destroy the inscribed object or for the Rooster holder to snap away the inscription like how you would snap away a Sentimonster with the Peacock. Anyway he uses the Rooster to make his cane a wise magic choosing cane and takes to the streets. Meanwhile, Marinette wakes up at 8:18 AM after silencing her phone twice and realises she done f-ed up. She rushes down stairs to 2 angry parents but they have no time to scold her and she just takes a couple… idk Croissants? Yeah sure and leaves to go to school, riding on her bike. We also get Adrien’s scene and he sneaks out of the house with Natalie following suit. Then, we get an introduction to Gabriel/Hawk Moth. I’m not leaving the twist that Gabriel is Hawk Moth, it’s just a straight reveal. Anyway, Gabriel is talking to Nooroo about some exposition stuff about Nooroo’s power and the fact that no one should willingly help Gabriel but Gabriel puts on the Broken Peacock after a smirk and transforms. Fu is out on the streets and Mari and Adrien help him up and with his cane he realises that they would fit the Ladybug and Cat. Fu is pretty hesitant as they’re teenagers and tries to find some alternative but that’s the best he could find so he reluctantly gives them the Miraculouses. After some episode time we get the Stone Heart stuff and this is basically just like the original but I would change 1 thing. The time Marinette falls in love with Adrien. So at this point Paris has gone to shit all because Mari didn’t purify the Akuma. Adrien and Marinette hide together and Adrien shares some of his thoughts about how he does so much of his modelling for his father because it’s not about him, it’s about them. The people he cares for, the people he does good to. Even if it’s just Gabriel and maybe Natalie, it’s still about them. Mari is inspired and decides to transform back into Ladybug to fight the Akuma. Also the gum thing didn’t happen and the Umbrella scene. So yeah that’s the new Stone Heart. Oh and if you’re wondering why Gabe put on the Peacock Miraculous but never transformed is because with it he can faintly sense emotions so any really bad negative emotions he could sense. Oh and I’m doing your thing of the Ladybug chooses what to make
Some other stuff for S1:
Felix is going to appear here and the stuff he’s going to do is find the coded Grimoire and then give it to Adrien so Gabe can’t have it and he’s going to swipe Gabriel’s ring. Not because of the Senti theory but because the rings have a different power. But that’s a mystery! Alya, Nino and Chloe will get a character arc. Chloe’s one will be like her one in S2 and 3. Alya’s will be about letting go of her blog and we get to know some of her past. She was inspired by old YTs to become an influencer herself but ended up flopping until Ladybug showed up and she was showered in fame. But, the blog will get in the way of LB and CN because Alya’s supposed to be Rena Rouge when they need her. Nino… ok Nino I haven’t quite figured it out yet but he’s getting something at least. Also CN and Mari bump into each other some times. Oh and we get an episode like Glaciator minus the part with the Glaciator villain cus Andre’s truly an asshole where Mari and CN talk about love, their feelings and some other stuff before falling asleep on the roof of a building(this is basically the candle place). That’s another thing I would change, the characters freaking talk to each other. Instead of getting stalking we get talking that’s not awkward. We get actual natural and funny interactions between these characters. Oh and the Bunny is nerfed cus of course. I’ll discuss its power in a later part of this post. Lila’s also going to be a bit more of a prevalent villain but I’ll get to that one later. Chloe getting her Miraculous is basically the same btw. Master Fu also comes in to decode the Grimoire and like uhhh they receive weekly lessons on how to fight better I guess. And like CN and LB are equal because they should be.
Evillustrator:
Yes this episode is in the rewrite. I just can’t help myself because it’s MARICHAT! AHHHHHHH! But in all seriousness, it’s not going to be a perfect rehash, let me explain. So basically, instead of the birthday thing Evillustrator kinda just runs off the create this elaborate trap for LB and CN while CN and Mari try to lure Evillustrator out by going on a fake date filmed by Alya as a part of the blog. Of course some parts are real and there’s 1 joke I NEED to include. So Mari and CN are going to the movies and the ticket guy is like “ticket?” And CN just shows a card that gets them in. Mari asks what cat did and CN says that Adrien let him borrow a card for their “date” that would allow them to just sit in any film if there’s empty seats. Mari asks “Did Gabriel buy the whole god damn cinema?” And CN responds “no, the company that owns the chain”. Idk why I just chuckle at that. Anyway after the movie Mari and CN kiss under the rain and Evillustrator is pissed enough to attack CN. Mari and CN work together to defeat Evillustrator and now Nathaniel has a broken Tablet. F dude that shit’s expensive. Also this episode includes a plot of Mari wanting to confess to Adrien. So yeah it’s Evillustrator + Glaciator 2. Yay
2 Love Part not Season Finale (Context):
So under some bull crap Mari confesses to Adrien as LB and they start dating. We have an entire episode of their relationship and really Adrien realises that maybe Ladybug doesn’t really love Adrien but the perfect pretty boy model. Because Mari fell in love with how selfless Adrien is to do something he doesn’t like for the people he loves but that’s not all of Adrien. Anyway LB and Adrien get caught making out or something and now Gabriel knows. Gabe now could endanger his son to get a chance at the Ladybug Miraculous and this is a tough call for him. Eventually he decides to do so and we lead to the 2 Part… thing called “Love”
Love (the 2 parter):
So Gabe akumatises Natalie into LadyBubbler and she then kidnaps Adrien by putting him in a bubble. LB fights LB but LB got Rena to make an illusion and LB beats LB eventually but Adrien breaks up with LB (yes the fact that I refer to Lady Bubbler and Ladybug as LB is meant to be a joke). Then LB gets akumatised and the first part of the 2 parter ends in a Cliff hanger. Adrien is able to escape and LB becomes Princess Justice. So Cat gets the team and we get a new concept. Reverse Centrifuges. So this is a new kind of Unification where if 2 Miraculouses are like meant to be linked then when you combine them with the special Reverse Centrifuge phrase, they both power each other up and both powers get a big boost. It does tire the user more than even a regular unification tho but Cat doesn’t really have a choice because this is an Akumatised LB. After a long fight, nearly everyone is beaten down in their civilian forms (so their identity is revealed) but Cat is able to take the Pig and Fox to Reverse Centrifuge them with the Cat to make a Super Illusion (explained in Appendix 54 H) and Cataclysm Ladybug’s earrings to get the Akuma. Ladybug is pretty shocked that she was both dumped and akumatised and just runs off. And that concludes the 2 Parter.
Techno Trio (terrible name Ik):
So uhhh Gabriel gets Natalie to akumatise their little servant robots into 3 very powerful Robots that could be disguised as Nino, Chloe and Alya. Gabe makes a party thing and locks the 3 in a closet. LB and CN need their help and so they give all 3 of them their Miraculouses. In the end LB and CN are betrayed by the 3 but are able to defeat 2 of them but the final one runs off with the Fox Miraculous. You see where I’m going here? So Lila becomes a permanent villain team member and holds the Fox Miraculous. And the final robot uses the Peacock because it’s just so durable. Natalie controls the robot btw. I think I’ll need to make multiple posts for this.
Some other stuff this Season:
Marichat. There it becomes canon. Chat dresses up in a banana suit every night and jumps over to Marinette’s balcony for some late night visits, maybe some snacking, gaming, the bell’s a zi- you know. I was thinking about this like episode (or episodes) where it’s close to Mari’s 15th Birthday and so Adrien wants to give her the best Birthday ever. There’s this big Masquerade ball, a giant cake that he helped Tom bake, uhh some presents from friends and Adrien’s even going to give her a ring as his present. And maybe protection (yes THAT kind) but perhaps it’s not a good lesson to teach kids to mate immediately when you reach the age of consent (it’s 15 in France lel). That also leads into one of the jokes. So CN reveals his identity to Mari and Mari reveals herself to be LB and they both hop on a bed and make out. Alya walks in on them and she’s like “wtf you 2 are back together? And doing the dirty thing!” And so LB like changes her voice back to Mari to make it sound like she and CN are the ones doing the naughty. Oh and CN is disguised as someone else, he’s not in his superhero costume because he wouldn’t do that. Then LB and Adrien escape and head back to the party as Alya goes to tell her friend off. The ring thing feels too much but it’s actually important for the next episode. Also CN’a disguise is like the banana suit and he tries to sound different from usual
The 2 Part Season Finale!
In exchange for so much free time to prepare for Mari’s B day, Adrien is forced to take a modelling trip for some other company. In class, everyone’s just cheering for Mari because it looks like she got married to her mysterious Boy friend. Alix even sends a video of everything to the class chat. That day Adrien and Mari kinda hint that Adrien is the B friend and everyone’s just kinda confused because they thought they heard Cat’s voice from that Banana trying to impersonate Arnold Schwarzenegger but whatever. Adrien’s about to leave but suddenly, Marinette is kidnapped by Gabriel and Lila! Oh no! So you remember how Alix sent a video to the Class chat? Yeah so Lila’s in the class and would have access to that chat so she deduced that Mari is Chat’s Girlfriend. Then she told Gabe and yeah. Also Lila wasn’t in class that day or in most days really. Why? Cus she’s staying at Gabriel’s house. She’s hidden from Adrien tho. So Gabe holds Mari at knife point in public to draw out Chat. Adrien transforms and goes to save her but they demand he hand over his Miraculous or she be stabbed through the stomach. Chat doesn’t know what to do and so with nothing but his eyes he begs Mari to save herself but she defeatedly accepts her fate as if she didn’t, she’d be endangering everyone. So Mari is stabbed and is dying. So she dies and Master Fu quickly teleports to her deathbed to get her earrings while Cat gets akumatised and amokatised alongside Mari’s family and friends. Fu has no choice but to wear and use all of the Miraculouses in order to beat the horde. There’s a big battle and he wins but he uses so many Miraculouses (he once had 6 or 7 active at 1 time) that he’s in a critical condition and will die in a year or so. He berates CN for doing something such as “proposing” to his love interest in public and not being careful. In fact, he discourages the relationship in general because it has to be kept secret or something like this could happen. Now Fu has to train CN every night after the trip for a year and then CN has to choose a new Ladybug. So that’s the Season Finale. Of S1, we still have so much to go.
Appendix 54 H:
Let’s discuss some of the power scaling. So the Bunny is nerfed into just being able to see like 15 minutes of time at a specific time and place. Like you could go to the Park, use burrow and be in a past setting of the Park but you could only see like 15 minutes of the past unless you use Super Burrow which lets you see all of the past but still limited to location. Super Gift is like the Gift in Jubilation and normal Gift is like the Gift in Guilt trip. Super Clout (combined with Bee) is like Clout but you can fire it. Super Venom is like Venom but you can fire it and if you don’t hit anyone you can fire again. Super Resistance (combined with Turtle) is basically resistance but you can use it on 5 people. Super Shellter is like that Protection Spell in Marvel What IF. Super Voyage (combined with Bunny) is basically Voyage but you could teleport anywhere in the universe (before it was limited to like Planet and moon). Akumas on Miraculouses grant them unlimited use of their powers but don’t give them a super powered version except for Cat Blanc but that’s going to be explained a bit later. Now in S2 there will be something called an Advanced Transformation. It’s like a boost of power but it takes a long time to master and if you don’t, you could go insane or die. It can do many things, for the Ladybug it can give you that portal to the Miracle box (but this time only the Ladybug holder can open it) and some wings to fly. For the Cat you get uhh well you can shoot your Cataclysms. This change also applies to Cat Blanc because yes. Another boost for all Advanced Transformations is that you no longer have the 5 minute transformation rule and you can remain transformed indefinitely however if you use your power more than twice before feeding your Kwami you could seriously hurt you and the Kwami. Using your power twice would also tire your Kwami immensely and you probably can’t transform again until it has rested for a couple hours. All kwamis are different so it’s different to master each Advanced Transformation.
That is probably all, I may have missed some stuff but yeah. I might make a S2 and 3 reply to this comment but I don’t really have too much of an idea on what to do for those Seasons except for like villain gets all the Miraculouses like in S4. Yeah this comment was too long
I have nothing better to do so here’s my thoughts on S2 and S3:
2 Parter:
So there will be a 2 Part special of CN going through intense training every night with Master Fu dying. CN can’t stay for more than 1 night because he has his modelling and school and piano and fencing and everything. CN’s final test is going to be the whole 24 hours in a room with just the Miracle Box with no food or water or talking. To do this, Fu makes CN use the Snake Miraculous to use Second Chance about every 5 minutes for 24 hours. If CN tries to lie, Fu will use the Rooster to make a magical lie detector. So CN struggles hard and he even screams sometimes which fails the test so he has to reset the counter. Eventually, he figures it out. Oh and he Masters the Advanced Transformations for the Ladybug and Cat Miraculouses. After passing his test, Fu considers CN to be ready and passes the torch of Guardian to Adrien before passing away.
The new Ladybug:
So then Adrien has to choose a new holder for the Ladybug Miraculous and he chooses Alya. He then teaches Alya how to fight better and how to master the Ladybug and Cat’s Advanced Transformations. And yes I know he could’ve chosen anyone but Alya does have experience being a hero and her original Miraculous is now in the possession of the villains so pity points ig. There’s probably more reasons but there’s a lot to go through. Oh and of course Alya will be known as Scarabella. Oh and Adrien keeps the Miracle Box and Grimoire back at Fu’s place
A 2 Parter I guess?:
So Felix returns in this Season and Gabriel wants his ring back. Felix has hidden the ring and is mysteriously wearing a glove now. Felix tries to ask Adrien where he kept the Grimoire but Adrien just says he doesn’t have it. Felix is a bit angry but convinces Adrien to go shower and get changed for a photoshoot or smt. Felix then uses a weird device to hack into Adrien’s phone and finds the translated Grimoire on Adrien’s phone. Felix then uses some pen drive to download the Grimoire and then downloads it onto his own phone. Felix then places back Adrien’s phone to where it was. Adrien then leaves for the photoshoot and Felix goes searching some more. He stumbles upon the Robot and he’s utterly fascinated by it. Not only because of how advanced it looks but because he supplies Gabriel with advanced technology (with funding provided by Gabriel) and yet he never designed a robot like this. Then, Felix decides to make a deal with Gabriel. He reveals that the ring is part of his new weird techno glove and offers to give it and the translated Grimoire in exchange for the robot and the device that controls it. Gabriel accepts the deal and they shake hands but this only allows Felix to swipe Gabriel’s other ring. Gabriel then uses the info on the Grimoire and tells Natalie and Lila to work on fixing the broken Peacock before realising that Felix swiped his ring and asks them to work on the Space Potion while also snapping away the Akuma for the Robot he gave to Felix. Now, Felix has confirmed his suspicions that Gabriel is Hawk Moth. And in the next episode, Gabriel uses the Space Powerup to fly to London and confront Felix. Felix used the other ring and created another glove. Space Moth is about to beat up Felix when suddenly he transforms back into Gabriel. Nooroo just disappeared. After that, Felix uses his glove to make an Akuma and akumatises himself into some kind of Karate villain. He beats up Gabe and takes the Butterfly Miraculous and some extra Space Powerup potion infused food. And while all that was happening, Natalie and Lila were working on how to fix the broken Peacock. At the end the day, after they’ve attempted a few times at fixing it, Natalie locks it up in a secure vault and Lila can’t see the passcode. So she uses the Fox Miraculous to see the Passcode and get the Broken Peacock. Lila is able to fix it because she secretly sabotaged their previous attempts and spends hours making a perfect Senti-monster replica of herself. The next day, a beat up Gabriel is found on the Agreste mansion doorstep. Gabriel is furious that he lost the butterfly but at least he has the Peacock and Fox. Senti-Lila reveals that she fixed the Peacock last night and gives it to Gabe but what she actually gave was a fake Peacock that was an accessory the Senti was created with. Lila heads back home (oh and her mother didn’t do much about her staying in another house cus she’s always in another country doing idk diplomatic stuff maybe in an embassy) and snaps the Senti Monster out of existence when Gabe tries to use the Peacock. Gabriel realises he’s lost almost everything but he decides to use his wealth and power to try and force Lila and Felix to hand the Miraculouses back.
Gabriel Agreste:
So in the next episode, Gabriel tries to ruin Felix and Lila’s lives using his influence to try and expose Lila and Felix but Lila uses the Peacock and Fox Miraculouses to make a Senti Gabriel and the Fox for some illusions. Ultimately, Gabriel is exposed as Hawk Moth and he’s now on the lam. But Cat Noir finds Gabriel and he is pissed. Adrien’s own father. His only parent, who has been cold to him for the past couple years. And the man Adrien was willing to sacrifice his own happiness for, betrayed him and was the most evil person on the planet. CN beats up Gabriel until he’s murdered in Cold Blood. Cat Noir then feels immense guilt and is comforted by Alya because of what he had done.
Some other S2 stuff:
So now that Gabriel has been disposed of and Lila is in possession of the Fox and Peacock Miraculouses, Lila is the new main villain. So she will create Senti-monsters, either by sending Amoks to Parisians feeling strong negative emotions or by creating some herself. She will also use the power of illusion to maybe hide the person that has the Amok by putting an invisible dome around them. And since they can’t find the Amoks, Scarabella and Cat Noir use the Rooster to inscribe a phone or something with the ability to track Amoks. Now we also have some exposition of how you can’t use a Miraculous to track down another Miraculous because the old Order of Guardians created a precaution in case a Miraculous like the Rooster, Peacock, Butterfly or others were stolen and someone could use them to locate the Order in their hidden temple. Adrien and Alya also become closer because of their hero duties. Natalie becomes Adrien’s new Guardian and the Agreste Brand will become Adrien’s when he turns 18 (in 2 years). And because of Adrien and Alya’s new found closeness, Nino starts to feel as if Alya’s cheating on him with Adrien as they always sneak away together, they always talk to one another about things and she never goes to any dates with him at night (because Scarabella and Cat Noir have their night patrol). We also get some backstory to Lila. So basically, Lila wants power. Why? Well for one she has had a bad childhood because her mother is a politician and has to travel abroad and maybe work at embassies. And Lila’s father well she doesn’t know who he is because she was a mistake. She was conceived from a one night stand when some rubber broke. She also has drilled into her head this idea from her mother. “Without power, you can affect nothing”. Her mother once yelled it to her when she dared to ask why she had to be a politician and work abroad so much. Because her mother had an existential crisis of her life doing nothing and so she wanted to do something and affect people even if it may be for the not so good. And it’s because of this that Lila uses her powers to gain influence within Paris. She threatens the mayor, her school Principal, Jagged Stone and even Audrey. They all have to answer to her or well Volpina. And then comes the Season Finale
2 Part Season Finale “Akuma”(prelude):
Felix returns! And with some frightening news: Adrien is adopted! Yes that’s right! Adrien is actually Amelie’s son and Felix’s twin brother! So Felix basically made some Space Potion things and then flew to Paris to give the adoption papers to Adrien in hopes of Akumatising Adrien for his plan. The Akuma enters Adrien’s ring but Adrien throws it away in defiance and grabs his Rapier. Felix then decides to duel Adrien and holds the Butterfly’s cane in a way that’s kinda like a fencing sword, with the sharp part facing his opponent. Felix uses his superhuman speed and strength to defeat Adrien but the commotion attracts Gorilla and Natalie. Felix’s Akuma enters his cane and he begins to fight all 3 of them. In the end, Felix is defeated and has to blast off (but not as embarrassingly as Team Rocket lol). Natalie then attempts to comfort Adrien about the shocking news he just received not only because she cares for him but because she doesn’t want him attracting any Amoks. Adrien runs off and has to be comforted by Alya, she ultimately convinces him that being adopted is actually a good thing since he’s no longer related to Hawk Moth.
Akuma 2 Part Finale:
Felix comes back again but this time he shows him his adopted mother’s refrigerated corpse and reveals that she too was a Supervillain and that she was behind the attacks before Hawk Moth. Felix attempts to akumatise Adrien again but he resists and tries to fight Felix hand to hand. Adrien gets pinned down and Felix tries to akumatise him again but Plagg uses Cataclysm to destroy it and the ground starts to shake. Felix escapes out the mansion before it collapses. Adrien falls into the water below (you know the water in the basement with Emelie’s corpse) and transforms into his Aquatic form and swims out of the water. Without a home, he goes to Alya where he spends the night there and sleeps with her. Not in the sus sense but like they just sleep in the same bed. Nino is pissed though since Adrien just slept with his girlfriend. Alya tries to convince him otherwise but they breakup. Felix then takes this opportunity to akumatise Alya instead into Lady WiFi. Then, he goes to Volpina with a plan. She will create a fake Scarabella to fight Lady WiFi to trick Cat Noir into a trap. If they spot the real Scarabella, Volpina will use her illusions to hide her and/or distract her from helping Cat Noir before he’s captured. Then, they can take the Miraculouses and become god like beings. The Amok that controls Senti-Bella is in the Fox’s flute and Felix (his villain name is Papillon btw) gives Volpina Gabriel’s ring with the techno-glove being part of it or rather it being part of the glove. He says that it’s for communication. They set their plan into motion but Scarabella never shows up. They still capture Cat Noir but Papillon betrays Volpina and uses the glove to steal Trixx and the Fox Flute goes to him. Volpina tries to Thor’s Hammer the flute back to her but she can’t. She’s then forced to snap Senti-Bella out of existence or else Felix will use it against her. Felix uses the power of Mirage and Lady WiFi to defeat Volpina, take her Miraculouses and the glove before leaving Lila to be taken in by Cat Noir. Felix then removes Lady WiFi’s powers and Alya feels even worse since she was akumatised and couldn’t help Cat Noir. Lila is sent to jail (not juvie) for many crimes against the state, the Agreste mansion is rebuilt (though Natalie died), Amelie has to become Adrien’s new guardian and Felix gets to stay in Paris with his mom and brother I guess.
Season 3:
I have even less ideas for S3 but here we go!
First episode(s):
Felix now has the Butterfly and Peacock Miraculouses so he can make Super Akumas and Super Amoks. But first, he uses the power of the rings and his glove to transfer Nooroo, Duusu and Trixx into this Super Computer. Whenever he wants, he can call one of the kwami’s to his glove and use their respective power. However, to create Super Akumas and Amoks he has to have both the Butterfly and Peacock kwamis active. So he transforms with the Butterfly Miraculous and uses the Peacock in his glove. Scarabella and Cat Noir then have to face their most powerful adversary ever. It’s a tough battle but they can defeat the Super Akumatised Villain and Super Senti-monster. Maybe there’s a 2nd episode of this too.
Optigami:
Felix uses a Super Amok to create Optigami and have it infect the Fox Miraculous. He then transforms with the Butterfly, Peacock and Fox before sending out a Super Akuma. He then goes out into the public and purposefully loses the Fox Miraculous (and just in case, he quickly transfers Trixx to the Super computer) before escaping. Cat Noir and Scarabella then keep the recovered Fox Miraculous but Felix uses Optigami to find out where they keep the Miracle Box and then steals all the Miraculouses. Adrien and Alya go to Fu’s to feed the kwamis only to find all of the Miraculouses gone and the Miracle Box empty. They are devastated by the loss.
Evolution:
So even with a mega nerf, Felix needs to lose the Bunny. Felix recovers after using 3 Miraculouses (including a Twin Reverse Centrifuge) at the same time. After that, he uses the glove to transfer all of the kwamis into the Super Computer but it overloads after the 4th so he has to use the Rooster to make it so that it could withstand an infinite amount of kwamis. Felix then uses Twin Reverse Centrifuge with the Bunny and Horse. He goes to Fu’s place and uses Super Burrow to try and find out Scarabella and Cat Noir’s identities. But before that, he transfers the Snake to his glove and sets up Second Chance. He goes inside the portal but it immediately dragged out by Scarabella’s Yo-yo and he snaps his fingers to use Second Chance. This time, he anticipates Scarabella’s Yo-yo and dodges it. A fight ensues and he keeps using Second Chance while Scarabella and Cat Noir are confused as to how he set up Second Chance yet he’s visibly not wearing the Snake Miraculous. Eventually, Scarabella and Cat Noir stop him for using his hands and take away the Bunny. Since Felix can’t use his Second Chance without a snap, he is forced to transfer the snake back and transfer in the dragon. He uses Wind Dragon and then uses Voyage to get away. Felix is devastated to have lost the Bunny but decides to keep moving forward.
Some other stuff and explanation:
So how Felix feeds the kwamis now is that he like puts some crackers onto a machine that turns the Crackers into energy and that energy is put into the Super Cimputer to feed the kwamis. At some point, Felix uses Lila to make a 2nd pair of rings and thus another glove so now he can use 2 Miraculous Powers at once using the gloves. In exchange, he gives Lila an akuma so she can escape prison. The reason why she uses Lila is because she has mastered the Peacock or well the creation of Senti monsters and so the Rooster is not very different so she can do it first try. Idk what’s gonna happen to Lila. These are all my ideas… uhh another thing I thought of is that Gabriel actually comes out in Stoneheart, the first episode. And he comes to whoop the hero’s asses. Like even after the army of Stonehearts are gone, he still is able to kick their ass before he has to run off because his Akuma is purified therefore he will turn detransform. That’s all I guess and I have even less ideas for a Fu spin off and Agreste Mini series but I have a few. Bye
I’ve pulled an idea from OrdinaryDreamer’s take on this show and I wanna see your opinion.
-Instead of having the miraculous be bound to you regardless, the only way you can retire a miraculous is if it’s by your own free will. That way, no one can just take your miraculous but you can still choose to disengage with it.
(I’m going to add my own little layer and say that giving up your miraculous must be what you TRULY desire. You can’t just say you’ll give it up and it comes off. You’d have to mean what you say.)
This next idea is COMPLETELY my own thing. I kinda like the outfits being semi simplistic because it will give room to guardian outfits. If Adrien is to also become a guardian, I think he (and Marinette) should get a very good guardian outfit to match.
- I was looking through the comments and the topic of combining miraculouses popped up. I personally don’t like the idea of someone becoming bound to multiple miraculouses forever. It can lead to a power imbalance and if we wanna get psychological, a loss of self identity. I think that the secondary miraculous shouldn’t be bound to the user but the primary miraculous is.
Thank you for sharing these ideas! They are very good!
I personally like the idea of a permanent bonding (hence its inclusion in my story), but I certainly wouldn't be opposed to the idea of being able to voluntarily lose the bond in someone else's story ^_^
I would definitely be on board for outfit upgrades. It starting simple and then getting more interesting as the heroes get promoted. I don't think I've officially established the outfit situation in my version of the story...I'm still pondering on it lol
Yeah, the unification is a tricky topic. Hmm...I agree that no one should have the power to be bound to too many miraculous at once. I'll have to come up with some kind of consequence for piling on miraculouses.
Anyway, thanks again for the discussion ^_^
@@TheArtisticAloubell No prob! Just throwing some things onto the table. Keep up the good work!
As a grown up fan of Shugo Chara who started watching MLB, instant follow for that one
Thank you
In terms of the boring ladybug suit, I was going to defend it until I remembered that she is a fashion designer.
X'D
In my opinion I feel like it makes sense that you can take off the miraculous and give it to other people but I also agree with that it's annoying how they give it to someone and their the holder for 5 seconds. it gets super annoying because I wanna see the miraculous in action more!! And we have only seen like the same 6 miraculous I wanna see the other kwami's in action too and new holders too that are not Marinette's friends but someone she just had to give because there was no other choice.
I also like the idea that you have to have some sort of bond with the kwami to use the miraculous but what if you become stronger as the bond between you and the kwami grow? And like you get new abilities that way too!
I love these ideas! is it okay to get inspired by these? I wanna make my own Miraculous AU and I was wondering I can take some inspiration from you!
Sorry I wrote so much lmfao!
Keep up the amazing work!
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(I would love to talk to you in chat to get your opinions on my ideas!)
There's definitely a lot of ways you can spin this Miraculous concept to where it can work. Mine is one of many ideas!
I like the idea of upgrading your powers as your bond with your kwami grows X3
You can certainly use my ideas as inspiration! As long as its not an exact copy of my version here, go for it X3
I'm sure you'll add your own bit of creativity into it too X33
Thank you so much for your support and for subbing! ^_^
I'm unable to chat at the moment, but I do hope all the best in your creative endeavors!
I believe that marionette should become the caretaker of the box before she lends any miraculous out. I feel like Master Fu wouldn’t trust a teenager to find worthy super heroes.
That would be a unique turn on things!
So this is a bit old so dont know if you would see this but in terms of the show for what it is it's getting better but I do agree that it could be much better. After watching the vid it got me thinking and made some alterations. Some ideas on the show I really do enjoy mainly being that fu lost them and the whole Emily situation. But instead of outriggt death I'd like to proposition that the miraculous still ties to the souls but that you withdrawal when separated from the miraculous. Doing this could make for alot more depth this could instead be why emily got into the state shes in and I'll go more into this later but first I want to elaborate more on my thoughts of what it could be. Prolonged exposure to the miraculous is deadly in that the more you use it the more dependent you body becomes on it. However this would be able to make special situations where you can switch. Wearing one for a short amount of time doesnt really give your body enough time to become dependent but it is the prolonged exposure that does the damage. With this you can still have the moments where they switched or use another but they cannot do that constantly because they can not just continually use because they become increasingly more dependent on that miraculous. Back to emily, my idea is that she had a friend in the excavation community who was heading to Tibet to search through some ruins and Emily asked to tag along to get some ideas for her next line of clothes. While on this trip she managed to stumble across the moth and butterfly miraculous and decided to keep them finding them beautiful later on playing it off like she bought them from some locals. The only reason they were never found before was the the ruins were forbidden thought to be cursed due to the disappearance of everyone from the events of feast. Later in her hotel she puts them on activating them and revealing both of there kwamis to which she is highly fascinated with. After discovering what they can do she transforms and just messes around enjoying her new found abilities not really doing to much as to not draw attention. Through out the trip she continues playing around with the miraculous and talking with the kwamis unknowingly building her dependence on them and with her wearing to at one the dependence is much faster. Eventually she returns home and shows them to her husband and giving him the butterfly miraculous unbeknownst to them starting Emily's downfall. As time goes on she gets increasingly sick not realizing that its from not having the butterfly miraculous. This eventually leads to her death. This send gabriel into a downward spiral in which he has become obsessed with finding a way to bring her back. If the miraculous can grant them powers surely they can also bring her back. He begins searching everything he can about tibet and trying to find anything that could prove of use. As days pass he discovers that the excavation crew will be having in exhibition in London to showcase artifacts found in the ruins. Scrolling through the page eventually nooroos attention is caught by a book and he explains what it is. Learning this gabriel realizes he needs this book. He makes a plan and sets it in motion. Transforming he akumatizes a member of a the museum security to steal the book and leave it in an undisclosed location to which he retrieves it and gets to work. Seeing the book isn't in any known language he desperately flips page through page eventually coming across the page that catches his attention. Demanding to know what the page is nooroo explains that although he doesnt know what it says based off the image it's the wish granting ability of the cat and ladybug miraculous when paired together. He then goes on to explain the wish is extremely dangerous but gabriel doesnt care because that wish can bring emily back.
You have a really neat idea for Miraculous as well! Thank you for sharing ^_^
@@TheArtisticAloubell adding on to this and I kind of hope they do this in the show but what if the wish gabriel is wanting to make isn't bringing emily back but that they never found the miraculous in the first place. That could easily fix Gabriel's one flaw in the sense that he is impulsive and reckless. If that was the case that would still bring back emily but also in his mind justify any of his actions. If they never found the miraculous then any of the pain he has caused would have never happened so nothing he does matters in the grand scheme of things. Explains why he is so neglectful of his son why even knowing the cost he still let natalie use the peacock and why he seems to not care if someone dies.
@@ronaldmorris1462 Didnt Gabriel reveal in the show that his intent is to destroy the world and recreate it into a more ideal reality? Or something like that?
Though I think your plan is a bit better for what he should wish for X3
Thanks to evolution it makes perfect sense
How exceptional do you think Alya is? Up to here you probably haven't seen Hack-San yet. But you would have seen Reflekdoll. Adrien is quite exceptional too, but his use of the Lucky Charm wasn't so great. And in Hack-San you would see Alya - a 27 year old soul trapped in the being of a 13 14 15 16 year old - wasn't very successful with her Lucky Charm, was she.
Do you really think Marinette got the Ladybug responsability just because she helped an old geezer cross the street? How Master Fu did it - wether he used the Bunny Miraculous or whatever - he chose -> you would say, one in a million. Maybe I would say - by shear luck she was just near by -> in Paris: one in many billions.
I think a little bit the same can be said about Adrien.
No disrespect to you ... maybe I'm completely wrong and give the writer(s) much more credit than they deserve, but I say: from what we saw (and yeah I know mine is just as much conjecture as yours) my take on it isn't less valid than yours. I might argue that they might have hinted at what I'm saying, in the actual show.
Not everybody hits you over the head with all the mysteries right in the beginning. That's also why I find the umbrella scene at the end of the season so much cuter, as if we would have seen it just right away, just more or less as the first thing we would have seen. Yes you would have gotten the origin story, but the buildup would have been completely wasted.
You can make a Captain America anthology after Iron Man has been introduced - and I prefer it that way. It doesn't confuse me one bit, getting the story told just a little bit out of linear time.
Also I feel like we never talk about the fact that it makes absolutely no sense that master fu chose children to fight against an adult supervillain because their powers are not as strong and they transform back after a single use
these ideas are really cool! i know with how you re-wrote the power system, you got rid of the time limit for their powers, but i feel like there should still be some urgency and resourcefullness to how the team ends up using their powers, so like ladybug can't just stay transformed for like days at a time and keep throwing items and ideas at the villains. maybe you could add an energy cap? like take into account how the powers are derived from the kwamis, and using the powers drains the kwamis.. idk i feel like the kwamis are only really used in the show as either like comedic relief, a random character that pops up randomly to give support, or just something to feed for powers? maybe theres a learning curve in there for the miraculous holders to learn to care for the kwamis rather than just treat them like things, because it has an effect on how much they can use their powers
Thank you
Fun fact:Noroo explained the miraculous in the orgins
I'm aware of that now. but thank you! ^_^
I feel like I wanna see this version more
thank you!
The existence of kwamis bugs me so much, I really think kwamis shouldn't have a physical form but instead be voices inside their heads just like venom lol
The detransformation system is annoying, also they just have one or 2 spe power, really??
Them already knowing how to fight is just unrealistic.
Also I hate the fact they are middle schoolers...
I'm okay with the cute animal-fairy mascots, but i do think your ideas is cool! Each miraculous having its own distinct voice.
They could also go the Shugo Chara route and make it so that only other miraculous holders could see other kwamis.
I also think its a bit annoying how inconsistent it is when people use their miraculous for the first time. Sometimes its awkward and you don't know what you're doing, but most of the time they're instant masters.
They're in 10th grade not middle school
I think the miraculous gives them the ability to fight but yeah I wish it only gave them enchanced strength/agility/durability but they still had to train
I have to agree with that. It feels like the writers cheated them out of good development in canon by having it so they instantly know how to fight and use their powers. Them not knowing means that Fu and the kwami have more of a narrative role. Fu could handle the physical fighting, tactics,and learning how to be a hero while kwamis teach new ways or techniques to use their powers. I know ML was never a shonen,but it would be so satisfying narrative to actually see the Miraculous wielders train and grow in using their powers over time. Shonen uses this common trope all the time and I don't see why it couldn't have worked for canon ML
I would say you don't have to get rid of the Kwanis having physical forms. I would just make it so that the fact that these are magical ancient beings is emphasized more. Have it be that their morality is just slight off compared to modern day. Make it clear that they have lived for many years and they have a lot of wisdom because of it. Have them comment on how technology has advanced and it confuses them.Have them act a little like the Fair Folk.
Are you gonna make the origins again but in a better format? I mean anything is better than the mircalous writers writing it. Liked your idea of having some brutality so much. Must say master Fu should have been hit by a car and reincarnate and then again hit by a car in front of Adrien dropping the magical jewels of both of ladybug and black cat. Should have made master Fu a spirit or something so that we would have some exploring of ladybug and cat noir. And oh Adrien development that boy doesn't get any
It's not a total rewrite of the entire episode~
I'm just gonna rewrite the plot points that bother me the most lol
@The Artistic Aloubell Come to think of it, your origins scenario about Master Fu training Gabriel Agreste to be a wielder of the Ladybug Miraculous does remind me of a fanfic I read years ago before Season 3 came out. Unfortunately, I can’t remember the title or the author since it was so long ago. Anyway, in it, Master Fu’s ‘big mistake’ was that he trained someone to be a wielder of the Ladybug Miraculous. And, if I’m remembering it right, that someone went rogue, destroyed the Order Of The Guardians and later on sometime after Heroes Day, made an offer to Gabriel to help her take over the world and in return she will help Gabriel revive his wife.
Ah interesting! That is very similar!
I personally was subconsciously inspired by Kung Fu Panda XD
@@TheArtisticAloubell Thank you for the reply. By the way, what do you think of the idea of Gabriel teaming up with a villain whose just in it to rule the world? I mean one of the things that I remember happening in that fanfic that I described is that the villain was perplexed and irritated that Gabriel would have the Wish but only use it to revive a dead person. And when Gabriel retorted to her that the person isn’t dead, the villain replied with “That’s even worse”.
@@scottpetersen672 anything can be a good idea if executed nicely! And conceptually, that sounds cool!
@@TheArtisticAloubell That is a nice perspective. Anyway, thank you for that reply.
@@TheArtisticAloubell It’s been a year since I made the comment but I think I found the fanfic in question. It’s called Nom de plume and it’s by an AO3 user named karuvapatta.
If anything Fu should be prioritizing finding people who aren’t prone to strong emotional outbursts, which of course hormonal teenagers are going to be great at. That should have been part of the test
1:32 Coughs and stares All Might dead in the eye 👁👄👁
LOL
Yeah but Izuku was actually willing to sacrafice his life for Katsuki back then. Horikoshi is an actual good writer other than Thomas😭
Yeah, it´s a good thing the origins episodes were basically the last ones I saw of the episodes that I did watch, because I basically lost interest after seeing what should be the first two episodes setting up the whole plot for it: Basically I always thought there was a greater reason as to why Gabriel can´t just have his wish, and I assumed that was set up in the...setup. But then I found out, nope, Gabriel having his wish is just "bad", but wouldn´t it have been better to just like...ask Hawkmanguy: "Hey, what wish do you want anyways? Oh, well that doesn´t even sound so evil, infact...I think we could literally just help without using that power, yeah no problem man, we fixed the peacock along the way no biggy, have a happy laifu with happy waifu" instead, just like with the weird "no, revealing our identities is...bad...for reasons...that you don´t care about...hmmm yeah then actually it´s just me powertripping with random rules so that I can´t let you have it BECAUSE OUR IDENTITIES ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS OF THE JOB, who cares about qualification" and it´s the same with the wish, it´s just "bad" "the worst" "worldending"...somehow. But we never know why. Just because they assume Hawkyboi is a baddy? Like, come on, is this a bad spanish telenovela with 3000 episodes where the whole loveplot could be resolved by exchanging words in a 30 second conversation? Oh...oh it is. We just have to accept that the most obvious solution is somehow the worst ever.
At least that´s what I took from watching the origins episodes of the actual show and it made me lose so much respect for the episodes that I had already watched because I always thought they actually had a reason for doing the things they are doing. Rather it seems that just like with the show just goes with statements first and thinking later "Ladybug is the hero" ok and somehow it feels that results in the duo at 99% power being just Ladybug when they were supposed to be equals somehow and I just have to accept it because the show is called Miraculous Ladybug, for worse or even worse writing...
yeah...it's not the greatest when the whole entire conflict could be resolved with a conversation X'D
@@TheArtisticAloubell Well, the reason I am harping onto it, especially in mention of their "secret identity" conundrum is because this happens at multiple points throughout the show. Specifically annoyingly when the writers don´t even respect their own powersystem, like in the Cat Blanc episode where Adriens goal and Ladybugs LITERAL eraser power basically totally align and makes me question the whole point of all the fighting going on.
And this is in an episode where they wanted to show how bad this one specific thing really is and that it will totally end in absolute disaster...meanwhile I am sitting there wondering: If you want to reset everything to how it was and she has the Ladybug charm in hand with the power and goal to set back everything to how it was: Why are you fighting trying to get her Miraculous? Why are you even akumatized anymore when you were the one who ended Hawkmoth with your own power...
And the kicker being: It happens twice, in one episode. We are being shown that, actually, everything about Adrien knowing her identiy was going perfectly in every way possible. The reason it went south into the Cat Blanc situation was not because "oh no the secret identity" but because when Hawky wanted to create an Akuma, he created drama by forbidding the relationship, the one they only got BECAUSE of Adrien knowing, and his plan only succeeded BECAUSE Marinette instantly went like "oh my god drama, I GOTTA GET IN THERE" when she could have just gone up to Adrien and said: "Your father forbids me from visiting you, he is a dirtbag, I love you and I will wait for you these next two or three years until you can be free of him, kthxbye" instead the writers were like: "We planned this Romeo and Julia ship so we play it out no matter what, no talking allowed...look we are writing on Shakespearean levels, aren´t we awesome!" when they very well know that they follow the formula of "we need one transformation for each of them every episode, and we need to have a fight every episode, and we need ladybug saving the day"
It´s as I mentioned in another comment, the multiple ways for the show to give me what I - would - want to see in the most exasperating way possible that makes me go: NOT. LIKE. THIS...
Wow nice job 👍👍
I prefer this origin more than official one!
But I don't actually like that concept of "if someone becomes Miraculous holder they will keep the Miraculous for whole life," I mean it's a good idea but I would rather go like this "if the Miraculous holder makes any*Huge* mistake which is Unforgiving then they have to give up their Miraculous" but it's my opinion and I have no problem with your concept , I respect everyone's opinion 😊
And also I would love that if you also re-write the love Square, how Adrienette met stuffs and handle Marinette's crush on Adrien
(only if you want to do it and if you have time of course)
The rules I added are a bit harsh lol
It definitely adds to the drama, though! XD
Re-writing the love square is a bit more complex since they should have moments sprinkled throughout the show and isn't one isolated episode. But if I ever come up with something, I'll share it with you all! ^_^
@@TheArtisticAloubell okay thanks 😊
I mean, technically the cat miraculous in the show can destroy the akuma, basically accomplishing the same thing lol
But people don't want the butterfly reduced to atoms soooooooo
They kinda explain this in origins. Gabe is told how the powers work by the Kwami and the old man test stuff was more a last minute “just to make sure they are not assholes” test since it is made clear he already picked them for some reason as Marinette’s test was right outside her house so he could walk in and drop off the box and Adrian’s was somehow in the only spot possible where the father wasn’t helicopter parenting him at the time
That still leaves the question of how he came across them in the first place and why ONLY they were candidates?
In cannon they did explain it a bit, he has studdied the place from where the miraculous came.
Hello I like you didn’t really use the sentimonster theory because it would be weird for Adrian to be a sentimonster and you made a good backstory for gab and i would watch this story
Thank you
I don't think the identity shrouding is a problem. Just saying that they look and sound different is fine with the added addendum of just changing some stuff. Say what you want about Chat's design. Its trash but changing his hair's color and consistency and slightly altering its style and giving him cat eyes does actually help in altering his appearence instead of him just being Adrian with a Domino mask on. Marinette should have gotten the same treatment.
Heck. Lady Noir can be an entire different person that it was really silly that Gabe recognized that they swapped powers. The only context clue being there's a female cat themed hero and a male ladybug themed hero.
So here's something that is needed. Ladybug cannot and should not be the only hero that can capture Akuma. All of them can or at the very least The Creation/Destruction Miraculous can. I think your idea is spicer but I do like idea of the capture being tied to both. It means they don't inherently need each other. The reason Chat and LB work together is because - and that's if you want to hook the love story on this - is they just do. They have a natural sync. That'll make stories interesting for when they fight. And the series desperately needs solo episodes where Chat Noir could do his own thing WITHOUT ladybug.
9:06 dont worry this is the time dot for me to remember where I was at basically I'ma sleep and watch it tmr also interestung Origins ✨✨
Thank you
FINALLY someone adressed that totally messed up new york speacial like how in the everlasting fuck did they manage to give random powers to the people there?? I still can't understand what was going on there and why 😂😂😭
I have questions and the writers refuse to give me answers DX
I wish they at least had it make sense >.
it's nice idea but if the origin was like this then I guess someone could point that it based on Kung Fu Panda story (master training his adopted son and promise him to get this special item and in the end [by accident] some random person got it)
Haha I did partially base the idea off of Kung Fu Panda. Or rather...once the idea got fleshed out in my head, i realized how similarly it sounded to Kung Fu Panda so I might have subconsciously used that as inspiration X'D
Good catch!
It was the same lady bug skin who cause problem for the show to have a work around in 2d anime animation
Question, if ladybug is no longer allowed to bring back dead people, then dose that mean in the episode when Alex goes evil do her friends don’t come back because they technically died
Some of the episode plot points would have to change in order for this new version of Ladybug can work.
Otherwise it'll be a super dark show in which people die every now and then.
But since this is supposed to be a kids show, the writing for the episodes would need to change so that the friends are in danger and almost die, but don't die.
@@TheArtisticAloubell understood, sorry for the confusion
@@thesealantern no worries! You're fine x3
That was fun I love your rewrite of miraculous ladybug I have some ideas I have for the show first thing first thing I would change is the fact of how creepy Marinette can get next I would add more lore to the miraculous how they were made why were they made was their a great evil that appeared one day treating the world (the answer to this question is in my version yes) after that I would give Gabriel a different villain name like monarch because that name makes more sense than hawkmoth because it's a reference to the butterfly miraculous as in the monarch butterfly plus it sounds more of a butterfly theme villain than hawkmoth next I would have a more magical approach to the show sensing the show trys to imply that and that the miraculous is magical in nature but outright put the thought into the background and finally I'll add a new villain to be the main end game villain a greater evil than the first one. that's what I would do what do you think.
I completely understand your wanting Mari to be less creepy lol I would personally keep that character trait of hers, but have other characters acknowledge and tell her how not okay that is and she would have a character arc learning how to behave more appropriately towards the one she likes haha
More lore is always good!
I personally don't mind Hawk Moth's name, but I think Monarch would be cool and definitely more in line with the theme of his miraculous!
And YES I was also thinking there should be a bigger bad guy behind Hawk Moth. 100%. Hawk Moth just doesn't feel like a final bad guy lol
Thank you so much for watching and commenting! X3
@@TheArtisticAloubell your welcome I'm not a writer but I love fanfics and I always like to give ideas for stories to writers I'm interested in this rewrite of miraculous ladybug are you going to post this rewrite on fanfiction and ao3? I would love to see it.😀
@@CB7368 Thank you for the interest! But I have no formal plans on writing an actual fanfiction about it. I'm only dedicated to one fanfiction right now and I've been neglecting it for too long lol
I don't really have a desire to write miraculous fanfiction. Fortunately, I know A LOT of people write MLB fanfiction and do a fantastic job at it X3
@@TheArtisticAloubell that OK I understand still looking for to more videos. 😀
@@CB7368 thank you ❤