Seeing that new equipment running up narrow gravel roads reminds me of growing up and seeing tractors and equipment going by our house. We had a farm but nothing like some of the neighbors! The more things change, the more they stay the same! Thanks Mike!
I imagine you don't see it much because it's so much cheaper and easier to store and handle straw as bales. But with silage bagging technology where it is it must pencil out with them already have the forage harvester on site.
You are still doing it! I was just watching an oldie, 8 years ago near Redstone, MT. Hope you make it up here to see how GREEN we are in September. It's amazing. Have fun & keep up the good work. Thanks a lot.
I’ve filtered through the comments and pondered this. By the time you pay a baler and haul the straw I wouldn’t be surprised if you’re close to the same cost. This is a one and done. Baling then hauling straw and tub grinding is a lot more work. Very interesting.
Greetings from Slovenia! My brother also cuts straw with a forage harvester, but he throws it directly from the harvester into a baler for large square bales, which is driven by a tractor and drives next to the harvester just like in this video tractor with trailer. This chopped straw is used by local farmers when raising chickens for bedding. The Claas "quadrant fine cut" baler cuts the straw quite well, but never as finely and evenly as the silage harvester does. He cuts it with a harvester to a maximum of 20 mm (less than one inch). Although the price of the service is slightly higher, more and more poultry farmers choose such cut and baled straw for the reason that raising chickens is much easier and they no longer have problems with paw prints. Also, they use a smaller amount of this straw for bedding than before when they did not use this chopped straw. It is interesting, however, that the finely chopped straw in the bale is held together by only six strings. When they first saw this bale, no one believed it was possible. Otherwise, it is necessary to set the baler much differently than usual, but the brother is a real genius when it comes to such things. But the most interesting thing is where the straw gets into the baler. He made a funnel in front of the headstock and the straw falls past the cardan shaft to the collecting device on the baler. The only shame is that he doesn't have any footage to show you. As far as I know, there are videos on RUclips of farmers from the Netherlands and Austria, who also make such bales. My brother also wants to be able to drive and tow the baler directly with the combine itself. Otherwise, there are solutions with the help of hydraulics, but none of them guarantee that the thing will work for a long time, mainly due to the oscillation of the baler during the operation of the compression piston, since this oscillation constantly causes oscillation of the engine revolutions, which is not good for the combine in any way. Maybe the brother manages to solve these problems as well. But I will definitely post a video of his grounding next season.
Thanks mike for another great video.i have to say I never saw wheat straw chopped and put into and ag bag before . Mike did this farm say if that straw fermented to a certain degree or does it stay dry inside the bag I am very curious how it smells coming out when they use it in the cows ration for a filler if smells on the order of haylage when and if it ferments inside the 🎒
Pretty wild field with a lot of character to it (humps, valleys, drainages, etc) ! As others said first time seeing wheat straw run through a chopper like this ! Thanks Mike !
I read all the comments and thought about it. With the cost of renting a press and transporting the straw, the total cost might not be much cheaper. This 'one and done' approach is much more reasonable. However, I also wonder: Does this simple approach have any impact on quality or long-term efficiency, compared to pressing, transporting and grinding the straw? Anyway, this is a very interesting approach and worth learning. Thanks for sharing!
Hello Mike, do you have some information on pressed density of the straw in the bags, compared to bales, sometimes around 0,2 metric tonns per cubic meter. Is it much lower in the bags when hard compressed inside?
If I understood you correctly, did these people build these haul trailers? I'm not sure that I have seen a trailer used in this way that has a false end gate. This seems to be unique to their design and how they chose to build it. This eliminates needing the steep dump angle. Can they be used as a full fledged dump trailer with high and steep dumping? Or is the dump height limited?
Hi Mike, I noticed that the carts discharging into the AGBAG loader are gravity only, no belt. This is very dry material given the dust coming off it. How does this work with moist or wet material? Like the corn silage harvest they did in a previous video. Just a non stick coating/paint and gravity or are the carts greased and if so with what?
as far as i know there is no non stick paint/coating its just normal paint that wears off eventually as you see in the one trailer. the wet silage as long as it is not too wet will just fall out like the straw they might just need to tip a bit higher. gravity does all the work.
I've never seen wheat straw used like this before. You mention in the description that it is filler for the cow's feed. Is there any nutritional value to the straw at all? Would seem like it would be very minimal since it doesn't seem that this is a popular way of handling wheat straw.
It was cheaper to harvest it this way, take two HW80 trailer, towed by a Fortschritt Tractor and and Forage-Harvester. The baler does not cut good as a Forage Harvester. And a bale need a spezial trailer, straw chopped this way can be transported with every Cornable trailer, trucks etc
A very well done video Mr Mike. Never knew they made a self powered bagging machine. Curious if that can be driven to the site or is it hauled or towed? Those big wagons are impressive.
I believe they use this in the dry cows ration to help keep them full and prevent them from getting fat since the dry cow is not producing milk. I don't think the straw has much for nutritional value.
I have never seen such a wasteful operation for getting straw in my life. All that was needed was a good large square baler or a round baler with netwrap. The straw could have easily been tub ground with the silage to prevent the feed from passing through the cows so quickly
You're certainly entitled to your opinion but this apparently works better for them. It's one and done here versus a tub grinder which they would have to use often throughout the year. Also I'm sure this doesn't take up near the space doing it this way that 400 acres of bales would.
I don't know about big squares but we tried to make small squares behind a rotary combine and it was impossible to make a bale that would hold together, at least with our old 24T. Would have been much different with a conventional cylinder combine.
@@farmhandmikein the end that operation can do whatever they want to bring there straw in, but I'd hate to look at there bill to chop and pack that straw would be terrible.
Speed can be a factor also. They are getting that chopped and bagged pretty fast. He still would have to get the baler around the field, bale the straw and the bales picked up, wrap the round ones or put the square ones in a building, move them anyway. Sounds like a lot of time and man power. They were doing it all in one shot. Sometimes it's faster and less expensive to have it done rather than doing it yourself. And it make good content for Farmhand Mike! lol!
Awesome seeing those JCB Fastrac's working.
Seeing that new equipment running up narrow gravel roads reminds me of growing up and seeing tractors and equipment going by our house. We had a farm but nothing like some of the neighbors! The more things change, the more they stay the same! Thanks Mike!
You have an incredible knack for creating entertaining content. This video was superb!
First time seeing a big chopper do wheat straw like this
Thanks for sharing Mike
Same here, pretty wild stuff ! Thanks Mike !
I imagine you don't see it much because it's so much cheaper and easier to store and handle straw as bales. But with silage bagging technology where it is it must pencil out with them already have the forage harvester on site.
You are still doing it! I was just watching an oldie, 8 years ago near Redstone, MT. Hope you make it up here to see how GREEN we are in September. It's amazing. Have fun & keep up the good work. Thanks a lot.
It's pretty cool to see someone chopping straw😉👍 thanks for the long video👍👍
I’ve filtered through the comments and pondered this. By the time you pay a baler and haul the straw I wouldn’t be surprised if you’re close to the same cost. This is a one and done. Baling then hauling straw and tub grinding is a lot more work. Very interesting.
Super unique content 👍
The JCB tractors are looking amazing🥰
Enjoyed the video 👍
Thank you
Thanks Excellent videos long HARVEST MIKE
Greetings from Slovenia!
My brother also cuts straw with a forage harvester, but he throws it directly from the harvester into a baler for large square bales, which is driven by a tractor and drives next to the harvester just like in this video tractor with trailer. This chopped straw is used by local farmers when raising chickens for bedding. The Claas "quadrant fine cut" baler cuts the straw quite well, but never as finely and evenly as the silage harvester does. He cuts it with a harvester to a maximum of 20 mm (less than one inch). Although the price of the service is slightly higher, more and more poultry farmers choose such cut and baled straw for the reason that raising chickens is much easier and they no longer have problems with paw prints. Also, they use a smaller amount of this straw for bedding than before when they did not use this chopped straw.
It is interesting, however, that the finely chopped straw in the bale is held together by only six strings. When they first saw this bale, no one believed it was possible. Otherwise, it is necessary to set the baler much differently than usual, but the brother is a real genius when it comes to such things. But the most interesting thing is where the straw gets into the baler. He made a funnel in front of the headstock and the straw falls past the cardan shaft to the collecting device on the baler. The only shame is that he doesn't have any footage to show you. As far as I know, there are videos on RUclips of farmers from the Netherlands and Austria, who also make such bales.
My brother also wants to be able to drive and tow the baler directly with the combine itself. Otherwise, there are solutions with the help of hydraulics, but none of them guarantee that the thing will work for a long time, mainly due to the oscillation of the baler during the operation of the compression piston, since this oscillation constantly causes oscillation of the engine revolutions, which is not good for the combine in any way.
Maybe the brother manages to solve these problems as well. But I will definitely post a video of his grounding next season.
Excellent video 👍
This is a Great Video. Like to see the European Equipment. Dont get to see these everyday.
What an operation.
Thanks mike for another great video.i have to say I never saw wheat straw chopped and put into and ag bag before . Mike did this farm say if that straw fermented to a certain degree or does it stay dry inside the bag I am very curious how it smells coming out when they use it in the cows ration for a filler if smells on the order of haylage when and if it ferments inside the 🎒
Pretty wild field with a lot of character to it (humps, valleys, drainages, etc) ! As others said first time seeing wheat straw run through a chopper like this ! Thanks Mike !
Another interesting video @Mike Less!
nice video again
Wow that bagging machine engine sound
When I watch these videos, I remember my late colleague. He passed away in a work accident.
I read all the comments and thought about it. With the cost of renting a press and transporting the straw, the total cost might not be much cheaper. This 'one and done' approach is much more reasonable. However, I also wonder: Does this simple approach have any impact on quality or long-term efficiency, compared to pressing, transporting and grinding the straw? Anyway, this is a very interesting approach and worth learning. Thanks for sharing!
Those JCB Fastracs are cool
Those JCBs are the ones that can reach highway speeds or close to it? Looks of cool machines here! Great video!
Here in the UK, barley straw is sometimes used as feed. But I've never heard of anyone using wheat straw.
Hello Mike, do you have some information on pressed density of the straw in the bags, compared to bales, sometimes around 0,2 metric tonns per cubic meter. Is it much lower in the bags when hard compressed inside?
If I understood you correctly, did these people build these haul trailers? I'm not sure that I have seen a trailer used in this way that has a false end gate. This seems to be unique to their design and how they chose to build it. This eliminates needing the steep dump angle. Can they be used as a full fledged dump trailer with high and steep dumping? Or is the dump height limited?
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Is this the same Claas unit with different head the same as a corn silage chopper??
What kind of yield were they getting in that wheat?
Good crop of wheat. it will all be down to the slurry .
Hi Mike, I noticed that the carts discharging into the AGBAG loader are gravity only, no belt. This is very dry material given the dust coming off it. How does this work with moist or wet material? Like the corn silage harvest they did in a previous video. Just a non stick coating/paint and gravity or are the carts greased and if so with what?
as far as i know there is no non stick paint/coating its just normal paint that wears off eventually as you see in the one trailer. the wet silage as long as it is not too wet will just fall out like the straw they might just need to tip a bit higher. gravity does all the work.
@@kylewil12plays thx, city guy here, haven't seem a operating farm in a quite a few years now.
They use Johnson’s baby powder to keep it from getting sticky
@@TcJCB24 good idea. haha better than those paving crews using cherry diesel to prevent sticking.
You should come video shaum family farms. They’re from Indiana as well. They know Zimmerman’s
I've never seen wheat straw used like this before. You mention in the description that it is filler for the cow's feed. Is there any nutritional value to the straw at all? Would seem like it would be very minimal since it doesn't seem that this is a popular way of handling wheat straw.
I believe they use this in the dry cows ration to help keep them full and prevent them from getting fat since the dry cow is not producing milk.
In eastern Germany, the ex GDR or DDR this was commen sense the Haverst straw like this
@@HolzDenniswhy not just bale it…
It was cheaper to harvest it this way, take two HW80 trailer, towed by a Fortschritt Tractor and and Forage-Harvester.
The baler does not cut good as a Forage Harvester. And a bale need a spezial trailer, straw chopped this way can be transported with every Cornable trailer, trucks etc
A very well done video Mr Mike.
Never knew they made a self powered bagging machine. Curious if that can be driven to the site or is it hauled or towed? Those big wagons are impressive.
They can drive around slowly on site but they fold into a transport position and are towed via pintle hitch.
Their in either nappanee or wakarusa Indiana.
Hi Mike, what do you mean the chopped straw is filler for feed, what nutrients does it have ? Thanks ❤️🇬🇧😎
I believe they use this in the dry cows ration to help keep them full and prevent them from getting fat since the dry cow is not producing milk. I don't think the straw has much for nutritional value.
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I like Mike less videos on RUclips from the imperial county California 👍🇺🇲🚜🚜🐐
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Nice video, but i like john deere
Grain cart operator is making me nervous and I'm not the one driving the combine
Your comments show that you have no knowledge of what’s really going on
@@ronjillhermiston4565 My comments? Please explain
I have never seen such a wasteful operation for getting straw in my life. All that was needed was a good large square baler or a round baler with netwrap. The straw could have easily been tub ground with the silage to prevent the feed from passing through the cows so quickly
You're certainly entitled to your opinion but this apparently works better for them. It's one and done here versus a tub grinder which they would have to use often throughout the year. Also I'm sure this doesn't take up near the space doing it this way that 400 acres of bales would.
I don't know about big squares but we tried to make small squares behind a rotary combine and it was impossible to make a bale that would hold together, at least with our old 24T. Would have been much different with a conventional cylinder combine.
@@farmhandmikein the end that operation can do whatever they want to bring there straw in, but I'd hate to look at there bill to chop and pack that straw would be terrible.
@@carlfalt174 Lot's of expensive equipment in that field.
Speed can be a factor also. They are getting that chopped and bagged pretty fast. He still would have to get the baler around the field, bale the straw and the bales picked up, wrap the round ones or put the square ones in a building, move them anyway. Sounds like a lot of time and man power. They were doing it all in one shot. Sometimes it's faster and less expensive to have it done rather than doing it yourself. And it make good content for Farmhand Mike! lol!