4x4 PTO Driven Timber Trailer BUILD Ep.8 - Differential To Beam Axle
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- PTO driven 4x4 timber trailer build - cleaning BMW E39 independent rear suspension differential half axles in the sandblasting cabinet. Turning in the lathe to size and welding on additional CNC laser cut flanges to accommodate the CNC-machined adapters for the 60 mm axles for the tandem axle chain housings. Fabricating a tool for turning down the modified BMW half axle to size. Checking the run-out of the shafts with a dial gauge. Turning the BMW half axle new flanges down to size and giving a centering edge so they fit together with the CNC machined adapters. Threading the flanges. Cutting off the old mounting ears of the BMW differential since they now interfere with the larger diameter flanges. Pressing back in the BMW half shafts and mounting the CNC machined adapters and shaft extenders. Sandblasting and painting the modified BMW differential. Jacking up and mocking up the now completed differential unit under the frame of the 4x4 PTO driven timber trailer with hydraulic crane. Starting to build the sliding movable axle frame that allows for load balance point adjustment on-the-fly but running into a fitment problem. The weld inside the 90x90x4mm rectangular tube prevents it from sliding on the 80x80x4mm frame tube. So I have to figure out a way of removing it. And a crude temporary fly-cutter is born out of an old rusty horse carriage axle and a cutting edge made from tool steel. Check it all out in the video! Stay tuned for the next episode & thanks for watching!
Trailer specs:
* 28x11-14" tires & 14" rims
* 1450mm/57" wide; length and height - unknown
* tandem axles with homemade chain housings
* BMW E39 530D differential with 2.81 gearing (identical to the UTV diffs)
* hydraulic crane with a boom & grapple for easier log loading & handling
* independent hydraulic power pack
* radio controlled hydraulic winch on the boom
* load capacity - 1-1,5 metric tonne
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Welding equipment borrowed from Spetselektroodi AS, Estonia:
Fronius TransSteel 2700 welder
Optrel Crystal 2.0 Welding Helmet
Hypertherm Powermax 45 XP plasma cutter
More fabrication videos on ruclips.net/user/DonnDIYvideos
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Very interested in seeing how this works out for you. Could you have used a thin sanding belt grinder type thing
You need do a Q and A who are you were you get the skills and training.
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Pretty clever solution in removing the weld seam!
Seriously, I’m not sure I would’ve thought about doing it that way, but it worked so well!
The last time I removed a weld seam, I used flap wheel sanding discs on a homemade extension on a cordless drill, only took about 30 odd wheels and 2 days of cursing lol, Donn is certainly an inspiration, I was making adjustable legs for a trailer.
Smart but also dangerous, in my opinion
@@matoivic5977 very dangerous, riding his luck there lol
This is the most impressive build yet. I just can’t get enough of it
Yeah, I know what you mean. It's also along the lines of something I wanted to build.
Wish I had the cash to afford the metals and parts I'd need, but my kids needs come first.
Truth be told, I'm feeling a little giddy with anticipation to see this Hand-made trailer and ATV going through the paces.
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Fireball Tool RUclips channel has some other ways of removing seam welds as well. He has a lot of good fabrication tips.
you can buy seamless tubing in any size, when i build a big trailer an set it up so the wheels can move back an forth i dont used a tubing as salt, mud an rush freezes them solid, just 2 heavy flat bars on the side in 3 spots with a spring loaded pin, one on each side. same way a tractor trailer is made
Agree..my thoughts too..
Такого токарного "извращения " я ещё не видел 👍. Молодец , классно придумал , котелок варит конкретно!!!
Класс!!!
Блиииин.... Такого оригинального решения я не видел. Здорово!
Always disapointment with your videos! Only because I wish they would not end. Very cool builds! Where did you get your training and equipment? I know you built your own plasma table.
1К62!!!!!!!!!!
Read the manual on the keyless coupling. You are actually supposed to tighten the bolt next to the bolt you just did and go in a circle, a few times. So not like a car wheel or steam valve etc. And use a torque wrench. They work great though, less machining, wider tolerance and better centered. Keep it up!
I really feel like you need some kinda slip coupler between the vehicle and the trailer. Kinda like a farm implement.
The adjustable wheel base is so unexpected but yet so obviously necessary. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
As always it’s great to watch someone that’s so forward thinking and innovative.
Your Line Boring Machine idea was excellent. Enjoy watching you work through these issues. Thanks very much for sharing.
Привет, а есть фото того, что должно получится? Рендер? Превью?)
Классно получается!
And yet again the old
Adapt...overcome and improvise rule comes into effect!
PRETTY GOOOOOD !
Love ya work Donn.
Cheers from Sydney Australia MATE
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Very nice
Love you're videos all the way from Australia
I absolutely enjoy your videos. Thank you for sharing your passion.. Have a Blessed weekend
Love when all the machined parts fit together perfectly.
Hi Donn,
That seam removal was genius, I always considered myself
pretty good at custom fabricating, but you are lights years
ahead of the game. Just a joy to see how you make things
work. Take care my friend, and thanks for the video.
fireballtool made a cuter that pulls through the tube that did a great job of removing the internal weld at the seam
I was scrolling through the comments to see if anyone had recommended this video. Well worth checking out Donn, could save you time in the future.
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Awesome Donn, you're a mechanical genius 👍
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Beau travail ( beautiful Job)👍👍👍👍👍
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I tell you what, your channel and maybe acouple of others are my favorites!! It's amazing to watch all the things you build! Thank you for sharing your time with us 👏!
I 100% agree! So entertaining and motivating.
This thing is going to weigh about the same as the moon by the time you're finished! And I probably would have just used a powerfile to remove the inner box seams.
Those B-loc’s will definitely handle the load. We use them on quite a lot of our high load equipment at work with zero issues
I really hope the center diff can take the load. Normally the wheel bearing/ hub is very close the the wheel center line which basically takes the leverage off the bearings in the diff. With only one spherical bearing per side the diff is going to be supporting a lot of load compared to a normal car. Is it not possible to use a solid axle from a truck…I guess the gears would be different. Great video I hope it works!!!
I am worried about the diff as well. If one of the wheel assemblies hits an obstacle (plenty of those in the forrest), it will put a huge load on the diff. I really hope it all works out, but I would not do it this way. Using a second outboard bearing to take the load and let the diff float free of external forces seems a lot more in line with the diff's original purpose. The diff housing is not designed to take bending loads from the output shafts.
Ok, so you both missed the fact this diff will drive tandem wheels mounted in walking beam style?
The load will be borne by the bearings in the walking beam.
@@haroldphipps3457 a typically walking beam suspension still has the main load riding on springs which are very close to the wheel centerline. It's just like a seesaw. The pivot point is in the middle and the load will balance.the wheels and the center diff will see the same load. The bearings need to be as close to the wheel centerline as possible so the axle works like a lever and not the seesaw. Walking beam or not the current set up the center diff is probably not going to be very Happy. Some of those diffs don't even have bearings, they just use bushing because they are meant to take rotational load not radial.
@Scott of all trades you obviously haven't watched his video on the, what he calls "chain boxes".
There are NO SPRINGS.
AND, the chain boxes take all the load of the trailer.
The diff supports ZERO load. NONE.
Makes all your concerns invalid.
All it does is transmits power.
It is helpful to know what you are talking about, before making yourself a fool.
@@haroldphipps3457 a single spherical bearing on a shaft can’t magically support a load on two ends of a shaft… that’s a fact. I would draw you a Mickey Mouse first grade version of what I’m talking about but you clearly still wouldn’t understand.
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Great job Donn 👏 👏 👏
Amazing. Great job bro 👌👌👌
Impresionante en los detalles excelente como siempre ingeniero A1 Saludos desde Puerto Rico
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Man, I can't wait to see this thing run!
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That play in the shafts is nothing to worry about, it will become linear as they spin
Wonder if a handheld belt sander would have worked? Great job!!!
Another Great Video Donn .. only problem never enough hours in a day .. love the way you cut the weld out ,, hope the drive shaft part slides longer and shorter just as well ..
Great looking work that you do, Donn.
Fireball Tool had a good way of using high speed steel and a piece of steel cut to the shape of the inside of the tubing for removing the weld seam, so that even if the seam is off-center in the tube it will still cut it out. just need some all-thread rod to go with it.
I appreciate fireball's ideas/builds; especially the vise he built awhile back, but the nonstop talking/explaining finally drove me away. I tried the "mute," but he does much of his work when he's not talking, so nothing was happening [on my end]. Don't misunderstand, I get talking re: some of the important parts of a build, but Donn's captions are enough for the 95% who get what they're seeing. If not, questions will fix those frowns: 🙁🤔😏😉😃😁
@@DanKoning777 Everyone has a style that they enjoy to watch and a style they don't enjoy as much. Lucky for us that there are so many people contributing here.
Your solution for removing the weld seam was pure genius.
Very very good job bro
Your videos are more interesting than any TV show. I look forward to the next episode !!
Donn, now that was spectacular thinking outside the box.👍
Line boring box section - that's not something you see every day!
Take a look at how Fireball Tool does it. It's in his bench vice build series.
Awesome Donn, that'll work PRETTY GOOD !! Thanks for sharing with us. Fred.
Liebe Deine Arbeit ,einfach nur genial.P.S.Sandstrahlkabine ?Neu oder hab ich etwas verpasst?
Check back , he did a video on it recently
You got to do the hand tool rescue thing when using a sand blaster !!! Also just got cough up on the build, lot beefier then I expected and the log crane is sweet!
This video is what I do love about the RUclips community. People can share ideas and stuff. Removing that weld seam was brilliant. Not likely something I would have come up with and I've been machining and fabricating a long time. The build is similar to something I've had percolating in my head for years. It's great we can learn things and pass them on.
Your engineering skills are second to none. Your craftsmanship is amazing an inspiring love all ur content as usual. Just keep doin you buddy ur talent an skill is amazing.
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Fireball Tool make a hole video about removing weld seams from tubing. Maybe wanna have a look in case you have to do it again?
keep up the great work.
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Very nice work !! I really like the idea for removing the mill seam from the tube !! This is coming along very nicely excellent work !!👍👍
So are you making an adjustable (floating) axle?
No matter awesome build, can't wait to see whats next.
Your build quality is going through the roof brother. Very impressive 👏. An inspiration for everyone trying to solve an problem by creating something from nothing and some re-purposed parts and materials and end up with a tool or machine that nobody else has and everyone wants. We'll done
6:20 those look almost identical to those that are used in our mechanical garbage sorting machine we use at work. They lock the pullies to the eccentric shaft that move the sieves. All powered by one big electric motor. The forces involved are a bit teriffying to me
I can't wait to finally see your trailer in full action!
Excellent machining work!
Wonder if be easier to make the short slide-over tubes out of two angel bars welded together and is that diff strong enough since it was made for a small car? Might of saved a lot of weight if you made the power driven trailer with hydraulic motors on tires like others do. I think your utv is going to be maxed out with drive-train issues, solution is 25hp tractor............
Brilliant idea on cutting that weld seam down. I’ll remember that. I just did one with a long chisel in the air hammer, it worked but that is a great idea the way you did it.
Great idea for getting them welds shaved down. This build is one of my favorite. Thanks Donn love what your doin. See you on the next episode my dude..
Nice! All your projects are going to be more detailed over time. Also, the tools you are making for projects 🤪Cheers mate!
Wont that stick after awhile, better to use something bigger you can shim up with nylon or something, Sick AXLE tho.
Amazing the technic used to remove the internal seam of tube! Your projects are awesome! Sorry for any grammar error, my english is not so good!
Your English is better than our current "president".
@@haroldphipps3457 Thanks!
Will you be putting a hydraulic ram on the sliding part to move it back and forth for the axle pivot point or an electric screw jack?
That line boring hack to remove the weld is a stroke of genius. Going to file that away for future.
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Looks good Donn. One suggestion that we use at work, when using a roll of tape, bend the last few mm of the tape back on itself to make a pull tab for removal. Its so much easier than looking for the end of the tape, either on the roll, or where you applied the tape.
Oh that is smart.
Even better is to back wrap the tape so the sticky doesn't get on what you are protecting.
@@visionisscaryYTg we hand a lot of plastic for power washing, and use LOTS of tape and zip ties. My boss taught us to do this.
@@Farm_fab Did you even understand what I wrote? (apparently not)
is the diff going to be lockable for those extra muddy areas or just permanently locked while sacrificing turning radius?
I only have 1 question.
3:25 Why did you use such a bizarre approach？
Normally you should clamp the other side, and use a 4-jaw chuck.
Otherwise you should use a chicken heart chuck, I don't understand why you use a round bar to support the workpiece,It's not accurate so it's dangerous.
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Those axels are heavy duty! Interesting way of removing the seem in the box section we usually just use a die grinder but wouldn’t end up as clean as that
I'm in love with your blasting cabinet
Typing out “this dudes a genius” and he hits his head on crane…maybe I should rethink my comment. 😂 maybe a clumsy genius. 😂
Хм. Когда времени и денег много, а кукуха не варит. Снимаем кухонную дверцу шкафа(петли оставляем прикрученные к шкафу), к штатной петле привариваем гаражные воротные петли, к гаражной петле привариваем 20мм пластину, а к ней прикручиваем дверцу. На видео тот же принцип.
Excellent work 👍👍👍 . Thank you for sharing. Be safe 🇨🇦
You should look into a surface conditioning tool, it uses drums that are either just scotch-brite or a combination of sand paper and scotch-brite and sand paper. It strips rust and scale right off of metal
VERY WELL DONE, THANKS FOR SHARING
Brilliant solution to the inside seam of that square tube!!!
Hey Donn, please work a little bit faster, i need more content from you!!! :D:D:D greets from germany
I am LIKING this trailer! Very impressively done. The adjustable driven axle is a 1st, that I know of. There are plenty of adjustable trailer axles (most of the 18 wheeler trailers in North America, I think), but I've not heard of one this small, nor of a driven adjustable one. You'll have to keep the slider greased up so it'll work well, but keep on top of the daily grease points, and you'll be on decently good shape. I'd build the slider differently, with either teflon slides or conveyor rollers, but this'll work well.
I'm looking forward to seeing it with both final drives in place, and being tested for fore-and-aft movement of the entire arrangement. That will validate whether this will work. I think it's an idea that should be further explored.
Good job!!
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I like your line boring idea for removing the weld seam. I thought you were just going scrape the seam away by moving the carriage with the 'planer' fixed to the round bar...
I always enjoy your videos! Thanks for sharing
Great project!! Making thing adjustable is smart and gets you proceed a head with out figure everything out before fabrication
Kinda trying to get my head around the twin drive rear axles... I have done rear steering on them but never figured out how to tie the two small rear ends together... wishing ya luck... never have too much of that
Wish I had £1 for every time I bang my head by accident. It would be more than enough to buy a crash helmet 😂
you want to build a sliding mount for a self driving axle, this sounds like a bad idea, excapt if you determine the balance and then also weld these sleeves on
cools down my room very well and yes it does come with the panels (i made the mistake of assuming that it didn’t since no one in the reviews mentioned it or even the description and bought a whole separate pair)
Watch Jason on the Fireball Tools channel, he's got a load of different ways to remove the seam.
Never seen a weld seam being removed like that looked like alot of setting up
Clever 🥹 some Quick attachers tho a ”bucket” on the wagon and bucket attachment to the crane and you gona have à nice setup with dual posibillites,
Sorry for bad grammar,
Cher’s from Sweden 😊
Missing the British comedic sayings