Builders, please verify alignment of the drive pulley with driven pulley on the engine side. You might need to add more spacing on the drive/crankshaft before putting the pulley on. You don't want the belt to be cocked, it should be perfectly straight on the engine side.
Got a problem. In my country I can't get a predator engine but similar. The problem is the jackshaft dismeter is either 18mm or 20 mm. Do you think the cvt kit will fit in one of them
I don't think I got the right bolts with my torque converter. The shaft bolt and the bracket plate bolts. threads just don't screw in how they should and they look different. more spread apart. is that normal or do I need new bolts. if I do what thread are they?
I just put a T.C. On my son's kart.. Having some issues with it. Feels like it's slipping going up hills , the governor is still hooked up not sure if that's the issue , the kart is slow , pick up is good but no top end like 10mph tops. I'm gonna try a smaller sprocket 72 too a 62 tooth. Running a 7 inch OD tire so the sprocket and tire are basically the same size.
I got mine from go power sports and it doesn't look like yours. Mine has a black spring, black cover, unpainted mounting plate, different looking belt. Even the numbers on the belt are different. Do you have any idea why that is??
@@Wmacrum go on amazon and look up torque converter for predator 212 the first one is it. Like the one from go power sports you will most likely need to raise the engine. You can find engine raisers on gopower sports for 20 bucks. My mini bike goes 48mph with out bypassing govnor on engine so if you have bypassed govnor it will go probably 10 to 15 miles per hour quicker.
Thank you for the video! I just bought myself a Torque Converter, the same one you installed and it’ll be arriving tomorrow! I plan on putting in on my Predator 212. How is the torque converter working out for you?? It’s been a few since you posted this video, so I’m hoping you have some feedback? Or any tips/advice?
I have a similar converter, does your cover block the chain? Mine does and i have no idea why. I'm about to just cut a notch out so the chain has a place to sit.
Our go kart has the same motor. I cannot find a video explaining why it could be hesitant to take off. I've looked over the converter everything is tight. The chains lined up well both bearings inside look good checked those. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
Your part connected to the crank is hanging out quite far. Mine did the same and if I don't, it makes the belt unaligned. Have you had any issues with it hanging out so far? Thanks!
Hi I have a modified racing predator 212cc. with governor and oil sensor delete and had the torque converter on and my jack shaft screw is wrong thread what is the jack shaft screw size? Metric? It's a mini bike.
Any idea why my belt doesn't spin? Installed correctly but belt will not rotate with torque converter that is properly spinning, belt has no grip. I don't get it. Thanks for any advice!
The black insert thing you are holding at 813, I did not get one with my kit. do you know what it is called and where can i get one without buying a whole kit
Should I remove my govoner? I have the same engine. But idk if it's worth it to remove the govoner, i want it to go fast but idk if this torque converter will damage my motor or anything, iv been told they are the wrong size bolts
If you do get a billet flywheel or be careful about over revving, the OEM flywheel is basically a hand grenade after a few trips north of 3500rpm.. If you want more revs, after flywheel upgrade you'll need heavier valve springs or the valves will float. Don't go nuts on pressure or you could wipe the stock cam. 8 od 10 pound springs will work.
@@Robinson-Homestead no problem sir, and 1 more question, I want my predetor to go like 50 to 60 mph, what can I do that will avoid a torqe convertor? And keep the govoner? I'm gonna get the stage 1 upgrade kit, but ik that wont get me to 50 mph, so any advice for specific items, I dont want a torqe convertor bc I'd have to lift the engine and move it forward and prolly modify the frame, so any parts from advice?
Kevin Robinson, your welcome and btw meant that as a compliment. I was thinking of putting a torque converter on a go kart soon to be on my channel instead of the traditional centrifugal clutch. Helpful video keep up the good work!
Im trying to get one on my 212 cc predator but some one told me this is it true ?"Your motor will just blow cause your basically adding more torque in a small engine"
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It’s always nice to see older fellows having fun doing stuff they love.
Thank you Steine that's what it's all about just have fun.
@@Robinson-Homestead bicyclist hate me when I ride my mini bike
yeah im 48 and been building one for the last 2 years. neighbors always comment “ oh your kid will love it” to which i respond “ kids?” lol
jon doe lolol
Man, I'm 66 and just got a Massimo mb200 mini bike, not to old to have fun !
Very nice. Those 6.5s are plenty of power. Your gonna have a blast. Thanks for the video.
Thank Rob.
Builders, please verify alignment of the drive pulley with driven pulley on the engine side. You might need to add more spacing on the drive/crankshaft before putting the pulley on. You don't want the belt to be cocked, it should be perfectly straight on the engine side.
Great video. Answered the questions about the install without having to ask!! 😀😀
I love to play with all new like that. A bit of bling for sure. Nice simple setup Kevin. Thanks.
Thanks Tomok.
That looks like a wheelbarrow full of fun!!!
Kevin so cool see you working on go karts that's a bad looking more you got there brother thanks for the video🎃👍😎🕇
Got a problem. In my country I can't get a predator engine but similar. The problem is the jackshaft dismeter is either 18mm or 20 mm. Do you think the cvt kit will fit in one of them
I wouldn't want to tell you for sure. I do know the Predator engine is a millimeter engine.
Sorry.
What size drive belt is it I need a replacement
What size belt does this take? My belt just broke and want to pick up the right size? Thanks!!
Not sure on longer have it sorry.
I don't think I got the right bolts with my torque converter. The shaft bolt and the bracket plate bolts. threads just don't screw in how they should and they look different. more spread apart. is that normal or do I need new bolts. if I do what thread are they?
Sorry I wish I could help you not sure.
what is the maximum speed you can get out of this set up?
I just put a T.C. On my son's kart.. Having some issues with it. Feels like it's slipping going up hills , the governor is still hooked up not sure if that's the issue , the kart is slow , pick up is good but no top end like 10mph tops. I'm gonna try a smaller sprocket 72 too a 62 tooth. Running a 7 inch OD tire so the sprocket and tire are basically the same size.
Forgive me for asking, what does a torque convertor do different than just a centrifugal clutch? Thanks
www.diygokarts.com/vb/showthread.php?t=18371
Here’s a really good forum thread explaining the difference and what they’re best for
Great job, and explanation
Thank you
Thank you this video really helped
Glad to hear it!
Great vid
Thank you
I got mine from go power sports and it doesn't look like yours. Mine has a black spring, black cover, unpainted mounting plate, different looking belt. Even the numbers on the belt are different. Do you have any idea why that is??
No i don't know but maybe call go power sports and ask them hopefully you can get some answers, good luck and thanks for watching.
The go kart I am working on has a rear pull that mounts on the axle and it pulls across the shat to the chain will this part work for mine
Thanks
So is it possible to use some of the other holes so the converter sits straight instead of tilted down?
if i only have a torque converter do i need to do anything else like a billot rod or anything
do i need to remove the governor?
How many inches was from the driver belt to the driven belt ??
Not Hector Martinez sorry I sold it.
The tourqe converter on amazon is cheaper than the go power sports one. It is the same exact thingbut comes with a black cover rather than a blue one
Thanks for the comment Isaac.
what's the link
@@Wmacrum go on amazon and look up torque converter for predator 212 the first one is it. Like the one from go power sports you will most likely need to raise the engine. You can find engine raisers on gopower sports for 20 bucks. My mini bike goes 48mph with out bypassing govnor on engine so if you have bypassed govnor it will go probably 10 to 15 miles per hour quicker.
Wow, that was easy. I need to read up on those torque converters to see how they work. Is that a Harbor Freight engine?
yes hf engine
What converter, belt, and driven plate are you using? I keep smoking belts on mine
@@skdrcr man, I've never tried smoking belts !
@@markcollins5026 It's a little tricky, but tires is the real tough one. It separates the men from the boys. I'm tellin ya.
Are you using the original clutch mount that sits on the frame with the predator engine and newly installed torque converter kit?
Yes
What was the threading for the mounting plate bolts? The ones that came with my set didn't go in all the way.
The sleeve you put on, is that so it doesn't engage will you idle?
Where did you get the belt from
I got it from go power sports . com
Why not zip them bolts down with an impact and then hand torqe to spects?
You can if you like Mike.
How bout some blue thread locker?
Should work
Is the outside of the pulley suppose to have play after tightening the bolt into the shaft? Mine still has play
yeah a little bit is normal.
YOU CHEATER...lol..good show..can't wait till big race!
He need to get the valve spring and delete the governor lolol
Thank you for the video! I just bought myself a Torque Converter, the same one you installed and it’ll be arriving tomorrow! I plan on putting in on my Predator 212. How is the torque converter working out for you?? It’s been a few since you posted this video, so I’m hoping you have some feedback? Or any tips/advice?
it worked great, thanks for watching, good luck with yours
I have a similar converter, does your cover block the chain? Mine does and i have no idea why. I'm about to just cut a notch out so the chain has a place to sit.
That would work I didn't use the cover.
The Whole SetUp 😂😂
Thanks for the comment and watching.
Is there a link for this torque converter?
Should be one in the description
Our go kart has the same motor. I cannot find a video explaining why it could be hesitant to take off. I've looked over the converter everything is tight. The chains lined up well both bearings inside look good checked those. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
Maybe your is not together right Luke.
Check the engagement speed. i 'think' some are different.
Your part connected to the crank is hanging out quite far. Mine did the same and if I don't, it makes the belt unaligned. Have you had any issues with it hanging out so far? Thanks!
Know issues thanks for the comment Bradley.
Hi I have a modified racing predator 212cc. with governor and oil sensor delete and had the torque converter on and my jack shaft screw is wrong thread what is the jack shaft screw size? Metric? It's a mini bike.
Sorry i'm not sure about that.
Damn Good video 👍
Thank you very much
Super helpful video thanks bro
Thank you
Glad to help
How did you get that bar off the shaft I can’t get mine to come off and I’m getting pretty frustrated lol
You might have to get a puller
Would I be albe to put one on a 5hp brigs?
Should work fine.
@@Robinson-Homestead thank-you! Is there anyway you could do a video on that how to set it up and all I would be very thankful
Is it me, or does the belt look a bit loose? I have not messed with a torque converter yet, and wanted to ask, since I just purchased one.
Working great thanks for the comment Adam.
The distance is pre set with the backplate.Should be just right.
Nice motor Kevin! Thank you for sharing!
Any idea why my belt doesn't spin? Installed correctly but belt will not rotate with torque converter that is properly spinning, belt has no grip. I don't get it. Thanks for any advice!
Make sure the pulleys are put together right.
This video help me out so much made the job super easy
Thank you glad I could help Jeremy.
Hows the power on a 6.5 HF predator with a torque converter instead of just a centrifugal clutch setup? It must be quite a difference...
Have a torque converter with a 212 honda clone on my manco dingo. Hauls my 180lb ass around just fine. Takes hills like a champ.
The black insert thing you are holding at 813, I did not get one with my kit. do you know what it is called and where can i get one without buying a whole kit
You may only need a bellville washer www.gopowersports.com/bellville-washer-20-30-series/?RUclips&Kevin_Robinson&Video
Should I remove my govoner? I have the same engine. But idk if it's worth it to remove the govoner, i want it to go fast but idk if this torque converter will damage my motor or anything, iv been told they are the wrong size bolts
I didn't remove mine.
If you do get a billet flywheel or be careful about over revving, the OEM flywheel is basically a hand grenade after a few trips north of 3500rpm.. If you want more revs, after flywheel upgrade you'll need heavier valve springs or the valves will float. Don't go nuts on pressure or you could wipe the stock cam. 8 od 10 pound springs will work.
What size blots did you put on to get the Torque converter on
Do i have to oil or grease my torque converter every 20 hours of use? And where do I specifically apply the oil?
They are dry
Apply the oil in your hair
@@elisalazar3097 man, good one !
What size bolts for the mounting plate? I just upgraded to a 212 and my old Honda 196 clone bolts don't work
I'm sorry i don't know
Wow thanks man
No problem thanks for watching
So the 10 tooth gear I can use the 420 chain?
That is what I used so I think you can.
What’s the exact size of the bolt? I know it’s 5/16-24 but can’t figure out the length.
Sorry i'm not sure
you find the length?
I wish they made a torque converter specifically for a baja doodle bug beacause I really dont want to modify the frame
Thanks for the comment Jake.
@@Robinson-Homestead no problem sir, and 1 more question, I want my predetor to go like 50 to 60 mph, what can I do that will avoid a torqe convertor? And keep the govoner? I'm gonna get the stage 1 upgrade kit, but ik that wont get me to 50 mph, so any advice for specific items, I dont want a torqe convertor bc I'd have to lift the engine and move it forward and prolly modify the frame, so any parts from advice?
I have a cheap china eBay torque converter on a 212 Honda clone. It powers my Manco Dinge just fine. Hauls my 180lb ass up hills just fine.
Thank for watching josh.
I have the same motor how do you know what torque converter to use
No governor
Need to get the valve spring and delete the governor lolol
Nah, unless your changing cam too I would leave valve springs. I'd do the billet flywheel first!
Good afternoon, I changed the crankshaft to a 6.5 hp engine,
Cool thanks for the comment.
the question is for you to help me what could be the change in engine performance
@@fco.antonioluzaniaacosta8537 sorry I'm not sure on that.
Hey I'm trying to put this on my shwin do you have any advice.
Not sure on that one sorry I think you could get it to work though.
Great vid thanks
Thank you for the comment.
Is the converter plate steel or aluminum
Not sure John thanks for the comment.
Pretty sure its cast aluminum
how do you connect the chain to it
Take the master link from the chain and wrap around the sprocket then put master link back together.
im a anti seize kinda guy too
hi,is there a kit for 1 inch shaft engine??
Not sure but I think.
Call gopowersports.com they should be able to tell you.
Yes. I have one on a 301cc Predator.
Yes your going to need the 40 series
This guys sounds like older version of the Gasman from Quad Ricers.
Thanks for the comment and watching ATV.
Kevin Robinson, your welcome and btw meant that as a compliment. I was thinking of putting a torque converter on a go kart soon to be on my channel instead of the traditional centrifugal clutch. Helpful video keep up the good work!
how do you put on a chain now ?
Take the master link out and put the chain on and then put the master link back in thanks for the comment.
What size belt is that?
Not sure sorry.
The link you added is for a Coleman DOES NOT FIT THE 212 PREDATOR
I will look into that thanks.
What size is that bolt
Sorry i'm not sure
Price for kit?
Im trying to get one on my 212 cc predator but some one told me this is it true ?"Your motor will just blow cause your basically adding more torque in a small engine"
no it will be completely fine as long as you install everything correctly
👌🏼
Thank you Josh.
Having a hard time with chain alignment on bike 🤯
They can be a little tricky , good luck with it
Could somebody tell me what's the big deal with these predator engines?
lot's of after market parts
@@Robinson-Homestead Hey buddy thank you for the response and the info. Take care buddy.
Mine come with 3 sprockets
Probably for different size chains thanks for the comment.
It had two 40s in there someone messed up
You forgot to install the most important part. The key.
Thanks for watching
I got that engine on a bike
Thanks for the comment and watching Tommy
What’s the shaft size on this engine
Sorry i'm not sure
Say "this guy" one more goddam time.
Thanks for watching.
how much money?
điển đồng comet brand ones are $120 Chinese clones are $50
Take the ratchet back to lowes. That thing is shot. Lifetime warranty.
Thanks for the comment Joe.
@@Robinson-Homestead lowes will warranty sears tools now that sears is gone.
throw the anti seize in the trash. get ARP fastener lube.
Thanks for the comment.
Hello
I left the link down below
@@Robinson-Homestead
I thank you
Thanks for watching
@@Robinson-Homestead
American is a
I do not have centrifugal clutch in Vietnam
Check out our video, we just installed 212 as well!!
These are under 80 bucks anywhere else.
Your choice thanks for watching.