541 Mopar Stroker BLASTS on Nick's Dyno
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Nick's Garage Gear Shop
teespring.com/...
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Nick's Garage Patreon page. Thanks for your support!
/ nicksgarage
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Nick's Garage is on Instagram!
@nicksgarageofficial
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
What could be better than a 440 on the dyno? How about a 541 Stroker 440 Mopar, maxed out!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Nick's Garage is proud to be supported by Atlas And K Tool.
goatlas.ca
www.isncanada.ca
www.atlasautoe...
www.toolweb.co...
-------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
Авто/Мото
Engine owner is lucky to have such a knowledgeable master at his disposal. Thank God for honest mechanics. Awesome fails to describe this guy.
Pat did a great job on the engine, the owner is going to buy a lot of rear tires, nice job fixing the dyno too, that was a real test for it.
😅
So the real answer to Nick's question: Where's the beef err..... oil, Where's the oil? Engine had to be runnin' to get pressure, as the feed holes align whilst it's turning (camshaft), yes?
So the question might be to drill another hole? A smaller hole, smaller contributer.
This engine really sounded nice ! Especially after all of the air was finally purged from the lubrication system.. 591 hp and 680 ft.lbs. of torque... Awesome!!! Hopefully they have a good supplier for the rear tires on the vehicle it's going into!!! Merry Christmas to everybody out there !!!
Indeed! Merry Christmas.
Yep 😊
Nichels Garage NHRA engines
Hot Rodding Small Block Mopars
You guys never fail to deliver, what a street/strip motor that is,MOPAR or no car❤
" With an ungodly amount of torque" , George, something about your sense of humor hits me right.😂😂😂😂😂😳
Best wishes to the whole crew at Nicks. Looking forward to a great New Year with your videos.
Merry Christmas.
Pull the rocker shafts and use compressed air to ck for obstruction in the shaft.
That doesn't look like sufficient oil to the rockers.
Same here I don't think there is enough oil
@@gulfy09notice how much oil pressure loss from beginning to end. 75-45
@@thomasroth4695 I don't know why Nick just didn't start the motor without valve covers off or spin oil pump while cranking it over
Agreed here, I don't know why they thought those few trickles is ok. I've had valve covers off engines while running and it threw the stuff everywhere.
That is not enough oil for a top end. It cools the springs too, that's going to kill it.
Its no wonder the channel has grown so huge. Nick is a true gentleman with his clients and viewers. Always a pleasure to watch.
The reason you had no oil at the rockers was because you were going by the mark on damper. If it has after market cam which im sure it does, the cam maker will drill the holes wherever
I love Nick's personality. So calm, so patient, no temper. Great teacher.
The man really loves what he does.
@@Kunfucious577😊😊😊😊
Sure does have a ton of Movement on those Motor Mounts.
Another stroked RB making small block power!
😊😊😊
Awesome engine build! Better have big tires to handle all that torque! Merry Christmas to you all at Nick's Garage, and God bless to a happy new year!
Merry Christmas.
Thank you Nick for a Christmas present for us, a big Mopar singing on the dyno.
Merry Christmas everyone!
Merry Christmas.
Merry Christmas Nick, and George, I'm anxious to see what numbers this 540 BB Wedge will make on the Dyno. It should be a torque monster. Here We Go!!
Merry Christmas.
Merry Christmas
What an awesome motor that Pat built , going to be fun in the Charger . Congratulations, from Connecticut 😎👍
Must respect the big Mopars and the vast power of the big blocks. Good to see you here BillD. Hope all is well for you, "South of the Border" (MA./CT. line)
That is a really nice looking, smooth running engine. The owner is justly proud. I was really sweating those rockers though. 🙂
Smooth you say? Big cam, far from smooth.
The stock rocker shafts have oiling holes and need to be installed a certain way.. I thought that was going to be the oiling problem.. Not sure on an aftermarket rocker shaft..
This man is a genius on enginez
@@moby271 By smooth, I mean it returned to idle and didn’t appear to vibrate. I didn’t notice it loping much, but perhaps I missed it. But yeah, to make that kind of power, it had to have a big cam.
Nobody seems to be focusing on the real issue, which is the man paid a so-called engine builder good money to assemble this engine and he didn't do what Nick did and check the oiling by sight not a pressure to gauge. And he didn't apply any oil or assembly lube to the valve tips, rocker tips, or push rod cups! So probably none on the lifter end of the push rods either. I don't remember ever seeing anywhere that metal to metal contact was the way to run an engine.
I had to lube all the pushrods cups and springs with oil before start up.
I didn’t hear anything about the heads but I’m guessing those are the TF 240’s. I think peak HP would be higher with 270’s on that motor.
270 is mandatory on 500ci and bigger IMO
I was thinking the same thing. With that size engine it would seem like it should be around 630 - 660hp. Nice combination but seems low on horsepower. Wonder what the compression ratio is. Torque was outstanding!!
Since they did not give the cam specs I would imagine it is a small hydraulic roller which explains the torque number higher than the horsepower. Trick flow 240s will make way over 600 horsepower on that engine with the correct camshaft. I believe he wants it to idle a little smoother and be in A Streetcar
@@thomasward4505 Actually the stroke makes the torque with a 4.5 stroke
The 270's recommend with 500+ cubics Max wedge design
Merry Christmas Nick. That's clearly a problem & the engine would not have lived long. You have such wisdom & itcrealky shows in how you work & think. On top of being an awesome tecnical automotive Guru, you one heck of a nice person. Anyone you call your friend is indeed lucky.
Let's all have a great Christmas & a wonderful 2024.
Merry Christmas.
Nick truly is a master of his craft
Missing 100hp 🙈 my 518 did 685hp and 700tq
I agree. I can't work it out. I'm sitting here scrolling through the comments wondering is someone else was thinking the same. I'm normally pretty good at picking HP and I picked 685-715. I was way off. The other thing is pass car low RPM. At 5200 you'd expect at least another 500rpm of power production for a 4.5" stroke wouldn't you? Perhaps the heads were the Stealth heads rather than the TF. It just seems like the airflow stalls.
I believe the camshaft is too small and this is not a race engine
My engine peak'd @6100. Hope they have a tiny RV cam in that thing😅@@ThePaulv12
So, you want to know what I would do with a 600 H.P. 541.
I would put it in a fiberglass ,Fiat Topolino bodied fuel altered replica street car.
P.S. the Fiat brand is now under the mopar brand.
Are you sure that's enough oil flow?
We are going to open the oil hole at the shaft where the bolt goes through.
We just built a 512 made 800 hp
Subbed. Looking to do the same on my charger
Would love to see the parts list for that, awsome.
Definitely what’s the parts list is that wheel or engine dyno
I have 611hp & 655 lbs trq in my 1966 Bel Air Wagon. Regardless of brand , it's a ton of fun in a 4100 pound car. Currently building a blown, injected 1st Gen 392 Hemi that should be above those numbers in a 31 Model A Victoria, Merry Christmas Nick and the gang.
Merry Christmas.
What would I do? Replace the carb with fuel injection. More power and less gas used when not romping on it.
I have no doubt that fuel injection would reduce fuel consumption as I could see it was idling pretty rich, but, I don't think you could get much if any more power as the ratio was perfect in the power band.
That oil SHOULD be flying all over the place!
When the oil is too low of flow, the outer parts can end up dry.
Better high oil flow than low!
Working with AFTERMARKET high performance parts can be a real problem . Alot of Nick's time here trying to find the lack of oil issue as if something was blocked is stressful, and can be frustrating . Finding out the oiling holes are extremely tiny for racing applications as compared to stock heads wouldn't be known unless Nick built this engine and would have noted the tiny oiling holes . Note that racing items are not usually intended for a daily cruiser street vehical . Final thought here , is the minimal oiling to valve train for high RPM applications preventing too much oil being pumped to the top end and running the pan low also can give poor lubrication to the rocker arms and valve train.
Scott in soca
Those rockers don't need a ton of oil. It'll be fine.
Part of the factory scheme to pump that much oil up there was also to flood and cool the valve springs. With the spring technology we have today, they don't need as much oil to cool them. Also, with the higher spring pressures used for a more radical cam, they aren't going to last 100,000 miles anyway, and will need replacement much earlier, also foregoing the need for so much oil up top.
I'd personally rather have more oil volume and pressure down in the bottom-end, where it's needed much more than up top. A much more powerful engine than stock IS going to need to be torn down and refreshed MUCH more often than a factory engine. It doesn't need all that oil going up top to try and preserve spring life AND to try and lube the bearing-less factory rocker system.
Redesigned aftermarket parts are not always just for racing purposes, and they're NOT always a bad thing for the street either... as technology progresses and things change, so must some of the ideas behind those old engine parts.
My first three cars were a 1970 340 magnum Dart Swinger, 1970 383 magnum T/A Challenger and traded the Challenger straight across for a 1971 Plymouth Roadrunner w/440 magnum. I wish there were videos like this back in late 70’s and early 80’s, was in high school and this would have helped. Best video I have ever seen on the top end workings of the 440. 👍🤙
Should have kept the T/A.
If the rocker shafts are on the wrong sides oil won’t come up
These go any way of direction.
He's going to need a bullet proof drive train to stand up to that much torque.
I cannot believe you run this thing without oil. If the drill motor did not produce oil, the oil pump with the engine running is not gonna produce oil. There's definitely something that's blocking that and just letting a little bit of squeeze oil through after it sets for several hours. Something is definitely not en alignment correctly. You probably burn Up the rocker arm shalfts
What would I do with that engine? Commit a bit of the unthinkable. Drop it my Ih Scout, dana 300 t case, dana 60 rear, go back to 35 inch tires, make some front wheel pulling rear tire smoke!!
So for any Mopar guy out there, 1 the large hole on the oil bolt goes down, as that is the hole that lets in the oil. 99% of the time the shaft is up side down when you pull the cap and see a hole that big like here. Second, you never prime a Mopar without turning the cam, obviously you can miss align these. On stock rockers chances are you would have pull the covers and seen the hole holes in your face. Nick is priming the engine in place, looking at the larger shaft hole under the cap and "looking" for the problem. You actually turn the engine over by hand, not the starter and prime a Mopar. Are cams being made wrong? Yup my first gen hemi has been a nightmare. Isky has done the cams since the 50s, they screwed up the oil holes. Stanke has made new shafts for the rockers since 1976 and says I am the first guy to complain or notice that the oil shaft feed holes are 1/2" out of alignment. So again this has to do with being a Mopar guy as this is what we deal with. I am also a younger 53 year old, but I do a range of Mopar. BTW turning over the engine by hand is rough as the cam spins over half speed to the crank fyi. New shafts are machined tight to the bolt size on one side and a big gaping hole on the other. For obvious reasons.
Hello Nicholas, Master builder and troubleshooter. Glad my engine build is in your hands. Merry Christmas to you and crew. Like so. Thunder Road, Kocan
All the best to you too Michael and family.
Merry Christmas.
Hey Pat. Stop dry revving the expensive motor on Nick's Dyno. And get out of Nick's way my guy. He tryna save you here. I know your worried, anxious, and terrified. But Nick can listen to that motor and assess motor than 5 of you with a fully stocked garage complete with a diagnostic machine. Let him work. He got you.
I love Nick's videos, awesome to watch him work.
Oh my damn! I cringed every time he did that wondering why the hell would he knowing there is a lubricating issue!🫣
I think he did that to see if it would squirt more oil on drivers side.
Chill Karen. He was testing oil flow at momentarily higher RPMs.
The way that idles hope he glues he's teeth in when its in the car its terrible
On my last big block Chrysler engine I got hollow pushrods which when used with hydraulic roller lifters do oil through the pushrods. Which on a big block Chrysler I've noticed the problems are usually at the Cup end of the pushrod. Just adds a little more protection for that area
I have had small block Chevy engines that took a half hour to fully lube the rockers during the priming phase. I wondered if the assembly lube was restricting the flow. I typically roll the engine over slowly while priming to make sure everything gets oiled 360 degrees.
Exactly
Why did you not verify oil to the left bank while cranking and priming as you did on the right bank????? Faulty thinking in my opinion!
That cam must be small for the engine. By the way it runs it needs more. I was thinking it would be a 700 + hp combo plus the torque
You call that oiling? Hmmmmmm. There’s no oil. That’s not oiling. You ran it for so long and there was not even 1 oz of oil in heads
Merry Christmas to the whole Nick's Garage family and great job Pat on the build.
Merry Christmas.
Beautiful!. I would put it in a 68 Dodge LWB straight side p/u RIDE SAFE OUT THERE!
I was over at John Scotti last week. Of course he has boatloads of restored HEMI cars, but as my father would say, his reputation proceeds him. Like most (99%?) of dealers, he's a flipper, with 2 very unhappy local customers. A Trans Am and Olds Rallye 350... As your showing now... buyer beware... I'll buy my HEMI directly from the owner, no auction mysterys
The rich, Flippers, and " dealers" have made the hobby too expensive for most of us
Precedes.
What would I do with 600 horse power? Use 200 for a burnout and put the other 400 in the bank 😂. Congrats on another great mopar and Merry Christmas to you and the whole crew!
Merry Christmas.
I would make a 600 hp car my daily driver; my favorite car is the 1970 Buick GSX
600 hp big block mopar would look great in my 1979 t top chrysler 300
All that time and money spent… a stock Z06 Corvette will leave this Mopar in the dust!!!!😂🤣
Luv your knowledge of engines Nick, very educational to us viewers.
If i had a 600 hp mopar it would cost me a fortune on gas and tires my 340 dont put out those numbers lol
Aesthetically a six-pak setup would have been sweet. Happy Holidays Nicks Garage! 🎅🏼
Happy holidays!
The question was what would I do with a 600 hp Mopar ?
Buy a lot of tires a lot of fuel possibly some differentials and driveshafts, with an occasional transmission thrown in? and you need a fan to blow fresh air into the cabin
love the high rise manifold it looks brilliant, along with the black carb and rocker arms............wicked !!
600 hp? I’d put it on a Cub Cadet lawnmower and enter it in a tractor pull😂😂
Is this a complete trick flow top end kit ? Otherwise did you give the camshaft specifications or is it a secret?
Yes it is. All from 440 Source. Give them a call.
Cam/heads choking that thing? i was expecting at least 700hp good torque tho.
Merry Christmas Dr. nick, George, Nico, Manny, Robert, and all at the shop.
Merry Christmas.
I dont know what u mopar guys are hooting and hollering about i built a 434 sbc pump gas engine in my garage that makes 695 hp with off the shelf parts like afr 220 heads and a bullet roller cam
wouldn't you need a transmission, drive shaft, and rear end that could handle that kind of torque. The OEM equipment probably couldn't handle it or am I wrong. Would be a heck of a street racer.
It will need up-grading for sure.
As a mechanic I hate, I mean hate, checking someone else's work. If you talk to me around my work, do NOT touch anything, not one bolt.
MERRY CHRISTMAS NICK ,GEORGE, MELISSA, MANNY, AND KREW !!!!! ALWAYS LOVE WATCHIMG YALL !!! NICK DONE SAVED THAT MAN ALOT OF MONEY !!!! GREAT JOB NICK !!!!!!!
Merry Christmas.
@@NicksGarage Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you all !!! God Bless !!!
At 600HP you have to carefully consider what smoking implement you want Goodyear Dunlop Bridgestone all i can see is tubes of smoke!
Nick is a Canadian national treasure. Watching a guy who is as knowledgeable and with such high integrity is amazing. To watch him love his job so much is fascinating. Bravo sir.
Wow, thank you!
This must be the lamest BBM build ever. I can’t believe they would show this to the world.
Takes about 20 minutes for oil pressure to build up, thats on any engine.
Buddy more like a second at most. Does fuel pump need 2 minutes to
Need to look further into it .Too long. I agree,
I'm sure you check to see if there was enough oil in the Pan if they put an off oil in it. I mean but I know one thing if I took the valve covers off of my car. My entire garage would be flooded from the ceiling to the walls to the floor I never heard. Of a car like? That with a big race. Engine? Not. Spewing oil just everywhere because those motors run hot they require an oil Bath on all of those valves. But then I'm just a little old guy from Cleveland Ohio.
And the other thing. I guess is the thickness of oil whether you said it was a 2050. Maybe. He should run a thinner oil so he gets a lot more coverage.
Merry ❤Christmas Nick & the whole gang !
Merry Christmas.❤️
I had to change out the lifters I start with due to the fact no oil was getting pumped to the top end, turns out it was all leaking by the wheel, after much cussing and discussing changed lifters and no more problems.
Merry Christmas
When you finally got oil to flow!
I thought I could hear a sound as if something popped?
Enjoy your videos. Cape Cod John
Merry Christmas. Thanks for watching on the Cape.
Merry Christmas 🎄🎁 Nick! Keep bringing the goodies and knowledge!
Thanks! Will do! Merry Christmas.
Nick ….! good job my friend ,thx for the videos and Merry Christmas !!! 🎁🎄
Thanks 👍. Merry Christmas.
Put a nitrous bottle on and take it to the strip!
That engine looks exquisite and powerful 👌
I wanted to look into the oiling on the Trick Flow head after watching the video and commenting on the diagnosis being done . Well the TF heads have a TINY oil transfer hole in these heads to lubricate the rockers . The 2 oil holes look to be about an 1/8" in size at best . They are definitely more restricted than stock iron heads which have a decidedly larger oiling holes . I'd attribute this to wanting less oil to the valve train in these very hi performance application . I'd say to compare the oiling holes just to note the significant size differences.
Merry Christmas Nick crew and patrons
@scottrance-im7xz , I think that You hit the nail squarely on the head, about the aftermarket valvetrain needing a lower amount of oil flow, because of the rockers pivoting on the needle bearings... Low restriction to oil flow , would result at those pivots, for all 16 of those rocker arms... And without a restriction on the 'veins' , once the oil temp increases, the oil pressure in the top end lube passages would drop to very low levels, possibly reducing the oil pressure in the rest of that engine...
I feel the 440 source china made rocker shaft assembly is the issue. my last big block Mopar i bought Comp assemblies, and there was a ton of oil up top.
They might be restricted on porpoise.
If you run high rpms long enough, you can end up with 4 quarts in the valve covers, if there is too much flow
@user-xt3ot1xu1b You don't WANT a "ton of oil up top"...
Having THAT much oil flow up there robs your oil pressure and flow down in the bottom-end where you need it MORE. Having a ton of oil up top also does nothing but promote valve cover leaks. There is NO need for that much oil up there for the rockers. No, excess oil does NOT cool the valve springs that much better.
With that motor with all that torque, you can easily beat a Buick GS 455 STAGE 2 !!
Merry Christmas Nick. Great show. May this year be a happy and healthy one for you and your family.
Merry Christmas.
Merry Christmas,Nick, George, Manny and the whole bunch!.He , you have to get Nico get his hands dirty on some American muscle! his little MG is fun, but they are the future!! have a great new years guys may the good lord bless!
Merry Christmas.
Merry Christmas Nick!! Your drill would appear to be turning clockwise. Wrong direction hotrod.
Nick, you should have a PHD in Engine Building!
This is a Master of Master Mechanic. This is a lost art.
Everything built today is throwaway
I've been waiting for this all morning!! Merry christmas everyone
Same to you! Merry Christmas.
My plant where I work, can be loud
Anywhere from 90 to 160 plus decibels.
Ear protection needed every day & everywhere.
It's good to see the dyno fixed, and I'm sure nick is relieved.
I hope you wear double protection if it is over 100 dB for an extended length of time. At 160dB, I don't think it is even possible to protect your hearing. There isn't anything that will attenuate it enough.
When adjust valve lash, I bump the engine over until the intake valve is on the way down and exhaust just begins to open: then adjust valves on the companion cylinder
Morning Nick & Crew just finished watching while having breakfast which went down a real treat with a 541 putting out numbers like that, WOW! Dyno went well also Nick. Merry Christmas all and thanks for yet another top video George.
Needs more cam for that single plane intake. Performer RPM may have made the same hp with 700 ft;lbs of torque.
Nick, from now on I think it would be a good idea to check all engines for proper lubrication at the rockers before firing the engine.
To be fair, they could also hear the dry rockers when they first ran the engine, and we frequently see Nick check for any odd sounds from the valvetrain.
Rocker shafts with threaded end plugs are nice, I just thread my pressure gauge in and prime and turn slowly
You should have changed the power valve not upping the jet size the power valve would have given you what you desire
Are the heads 240 or 270 cc versions? Good video!
240
240
Kool thanks and Merry Christmas
Merry Christmas.
Some aftermarket heads require external lines through a passage in the heads
i watched every second of that dyno show, & Nick the true gentleman @ people visiting his shop, Some1 buy the man a beer👍👍👍
Does the car have room for a taller spacer on the intake? Bet if you could put a 1” tapered spacer you would gain that 11 hp to break 600 and also make more power through the curve. A 2” one would be even better.
An affordable 1” that’s works well is from AFR part number 4460.
Also on quick fuel carbs like that, replace the high speed air bleeds with 28 or 30’s. They go leaner at high rpm because of too large of bleeds.
I also would reduce the amount of emulsion, get some quick fuel emulsion blanks and block off 2 opening in each stack, so you only have 2 open. One aligned with the top of the power valve threads, the other just below the squirter passage in the metering block.
Lastly, check the carb to see that the throttle blades actually open to 90 degrees to the throttle bore. A lot of times they do not, and you need to adjust the primary side full throttle stop, then bend the link rod to the secondaries.
Thanks for the info.
Nick Happy Holidays to you and the show, Blessing River&Sea in Kittery Maine < cody ..made my day
Merry Christmas.
Well whatever you put it in you only need a 3.23 gear in your Dana 60 I hope it has!
That's the same oil I use in my big block 427 that's Brad Penn oil great stuff for hi performance engines
If i had a 600 hp Mopar i would be going on bread and milk runs every day maybe 2
Good vid thanks for sharing wish you were closer to my local
Blessings
Dyno on
That 440 would be great in a 66 Plymouth Satellite 2 door.
i just subscribed cause i watched your video on 68 dodge d200 w/383 . i would like to purchase a clone .
Awesome show what would ido with 600 hp probably buy a lot of tires lol keep them coming and see you Monday
258👍's up Nick thank you for sharing your work😮
😃
If I had that engine in a charger I'd give all the camaros and mustangs around town a good lesson on there's no replacement for displacement
Valve springs need a lot of oil to cool them down. The internal friction in the spring creates heat. Oil splashing all over the valve train cools everything down. It takes much more oil for cooling then for lubrication. Does a 5500 rpm motor really need 80- 90 psi oil pressure? Oil pumps eat up quite a bit of hp. If the oil feed to the valve train was opened up it would lower the oil pressure slightly and splash the valve train with lots of cooling oil. It would gain a little hp and
help valve train longevity. Please respond with your opinion. Thanks
I would be curious about the oil pressure at idle with HOT oil.
We are thinking of opening the rocker shaft hole or thinning out the shaft bolt for more oil to help out the springs.
@@nickpanaritis4122 I understand that the oilflow to the valve train is intermittent so could you remove the the rocker shafts
and drive the oil pump with a primer.
Rotate the crank by hand while priming the oil pump to check the oil volume when the
Oil holes are in alignment . Check both banks and compare. If oil flow is good
you could check further upstream at the
mounting bolts and rocker assembly. With the cam and bearing holes aligned and an 80-90 lb oil pump you could hit the walls with a stream of oil.
@@williambikash6645 ....I have done that. And yes, there is enough oil coming through with shaft not in place.
I’m so glad the engine worked out had me worried about the oiling the rocker shafts issue. It runs great 👍🏻