2020 Honda CRF250R | First Impressions w/Kris Keefer
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- Опубликовано: 20 окт 2024
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The new Honda CRF250R is here and, just like everyone else, we were eager to get our hands on one and put the new changes to the test. For us, that meant sending Chase out to California to meet up with Honda and Kris from Keefer Inc. Testing for some seat time on the new bike. Check out the video as Kris and Chase give their impressions of the 2020 CRF250R!
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What do you think of the 2020 CRF250R? Which new 250 would you go with?
Rocky Mountain ATV MC I bought the KTM xc-f over the Honda because the KTM has better gearing for off road.
Do you ship to SoCal if I get a bike from you? Thanks
Spartan 2Six did the yz250f feel better to sit on?
@Spartan 2Six I'd go Yamaha: Best suspension, bullit proof, won the 2019 MXA shootout, plus Blue goes with all outfits.
Spartan 2Six nice good to know thanks for the info
Good down-to-earth video. Saw Kris out at Pala today...I'm guessing he was doing more testing
Still pushing the 08. Ill grab one of these used in a couple years.
Yessir I am pushing the 06 and still runs like new just keep up on my oil and filter changes
HoW is it
I'd like to hear Chris review old bikes that have been restored. Great vid fantastic insight
Just got this bike, my first MX bike. I spent last season which was my first season ever riding, on a 2019 CRF250F and let me tell you, HUGE difference. I love riding on a track more so than trails and I was pushing the F model well beyond its limits. I hopped on the 250r and other than the change in seat height (I’m only 5’ 7) I felt way more comfortable. The power is there where as the F just didn’t have enough to get me out of a corner and over the following doubles at my local track. This video helped me choose to continue to ride red so thank you. Awesome bike! Now it’s time for some FMF pipes!
That's awesome, MotoJerg! Glad this video helped you stay on the red machine! It's my favorite 250! Have fun out there and stay safe - Chase
Great review guys 👍🏼
Thanks man!!
I’m a Honda guy and that’s why I bought this bike, but the Yamaha is definitely king in the class I feel Honda is right behind in 2nd in class
Maybe 2nd in the motor division, but I'd give in the win in chassis and cornering. - Chase
Where would you rank the Kawasaki, if you have ridden one?
@@MX-CO Kawi has a very good motor but the chassis is pretty stiff and doesn't give as much comfort as the yamaha or honda and the balance on the blue and red is a bit better right off the floor. But still a great bike.
@@rmatvmc thanks , sounds like you had your own shoot out, did you get to ride them all ?
Riding all in one day like a shoot out
Or being in a shoot out has always been a dream of mine.
@@rmatvmc hey chase alot of people have said the same as you about the chassis and cornering. Is it better then the suzuki at cornering?
Honda need ta stop playing and bring their 2 strokes back
When in doubt Braap_it out they all need to bring back them big two strokes
Yessir
Love your vids guys ❤️👍
Great video, very well explained. 🙂 Always been a big Honda fan. Waiting for my 2020. Will be coming soon. 😁 . My previous bike was a ‘09 250R honda. And I only ride as a hobby. So I guess it will be far more enjoyable on this one.
I love that red gear you’re wearing!
Fox Airline gear! Better get some! - Chase
Pick mine up on Saturday!! 🤗
Great review, thanks Rocky Mountain
Great review!
Being 14 I cannot afford to buy a brand new bike. Still enjoy watching your review 👍
Does the crf250r feel as planted as the yami does though? I did like that about the 250f when I test rode it. Idk I think I will end up going with Honda, would you say they are just as reliable as the yami as long as you keep up on maintenance?
Absolutely. Any Honda i've ever owned has been very reliable. My first bike, a 2014 CRF450R, I put 130 hours on it and just changed the oil and filters. As far as planted, it's really close. The Yamaha might have a very slight advantage but the Honda wins in the cornering category and is easy to change direction. It just feels more playful which many riders have said in shootouts. And the motor is good. - Chase
Great review, actually reasons why a new model year is better... not just fluff to please the manufacturer!
Thanks, Matt! Glad you liked it. -Chase
Might just go buy one now..........
Don't forget about getting mine.. you promised.
I wish I could get a 250 but I have to wait a couple of years till I’m a better rider.
c walsh People learned me that a 250R is actually a great bike for learning how to ride when you put it on the soft map. I learned to ride with a ‘09 Honda 250R without all these mappings and tech. But ofcourse you gotta feel safe and comfortable.
Dxrkwave nice man, my uncle just doesn’t want me on a 250 yet. I’ve been riding for 2 years but he wants me to wait a couple more years.
c walsh Yeah, that is understandable. MX is a dangerous sport. What bike do you have now, if I may ask?
Dxrkwave I was looking into a 250 enduro but I just got a ttr 225 like a couple weeks ago. And before that I had a crf 100F.
c walsh Yeah great choice of bikes. As long as you’re having fun. 🙂
I took one on a test ride and I found it great. I'm a Yamaha guy and I found all it needed was a bigger sprocket on the back. The suspension was alright i just found it a little soft but that might be shower forks but I loved it
Soft suspension on a 250 is usually the case but it's still pretty good. I agree, the bike is really good. I wonder if a tooth in the rear would be good or take away too much top end speed. It would be a good test. Thanks for watching! - Chase
Kevin Garaway would still go for a Yamaha? I’m so torn between this and the 2020 yz250f
@@markmagness3693 yeah its a hard one to decide on
#homelife. Need more keefer on this channel and maybe a discount code for Keefer inc listeners?
Hey chase, In any of your testing did you guys have valve problems or where the valves sounded louder then normal? I have 7 hours on my 2020 250r and it was broken in but today I did my first trial ride and the bike def got hot but then the valves started to get louder then I remembered, I almost started to hear a rattle sound when riding but at idle it wasnt there. Im going to look for maybe a lose engine mount bolt or something but it just seemed weird. Just curious if the valves are just loud and maybe I just forgot what they sounded like but I just figured I would ask before I tear apart my bike. Thanks once again.
Hi, Snickers. I don't recall anything unusual as far as the sound of the engine when I was riding it. Have you called your dealer you bought it from? - Chase
@@rmatvmc They are currently closed and for a brand new bike, I did not want to tear into it. It just sounded a little to loud but I was just curious if you guys had anything with the valves being loud once the bike got hot. Thanks
Thanks for the honest review!
You bet! Thanks for watching. You going to get one?
@@rmatvmc I'll probably look for a left over 20 at the end of next year.
@@disturbed8999 Nice
would this be a good bike for me? around 6 months of experience on a 125 4 stroke and i’m really good at riding, i’ve always been good at riding, i learned how to ride in like 2 days.
Gotta learn somehow, I'd get a older used bike because your gonna drop it alot
Did at 10:00 you changed and began talking about the Honda 250f not the 250r? Because that’s what he was saying and describing.
This video is all about the CRF250R, he was just referring to the 250 (F)our-stroke.
How would this bike compare to the 2016 crf250r? Thinking about upgrading.
These two bikes are very different. Different chassis, suspension, motor etc. But this bike will be better than the 16 in every way. Does that mean you NEED to upgrade? No, but this 250 is easily one of the best bike i've ridden this year. - Chase
Renaissance chamber... Cool !?
Hey I’m looking to buy a second hand 250 race less the 5 grand. Would you have any suggestions in what I should buy second hand that will last me a long time?
Any 250 is a good bike. Just depends on how it was taken care and maintained by the previous owner. 5K will probably get you a 250 roughly 3-5 years old and depending on the hours it has, I'd be asking if they've had a top end or bottom end done, when they last greased the linkage, swing arm, steering stem and other pivot points. Check the spokes and make sure there are none broken, check the rims for any really bad dents or cracks. As long as they've done regular maintenance, then you should be alright.
Can you do some more atv videos preferably the 2020 Honda TRX 250 x
I just bought the honda 250r and Im coming from a ktm 2 stroke and the clutch pull is just destroying me. Do the WC levers help that much or is it best to go with a hydraulic clutch? I havnt tried lubing the cable but it has 5 hours on it, Is it possible it came from the factory a little short on lube? idk maybe im just finger weak
It definitely won't hurt to lube your cables. The 250R has a lighter pull than the 450 so be grateful for that haha. Which finger do you use to pull in the clutch? The middle finger has more strength than the index so maybe try that out. A good tip and one that I use is pushing my clutch lever in as far as possible so when I pull it, I'm grabbing the very outside of the lever. There is more leverage the farther out you go so it makes the pull easier, AND you won't break levers as easily if you crash. The WC connection levers have a really good feel to them and I love the bend. I don't know if it'll make too much difference in pull though. - Chase
@@rmatvmc thank you so much. Honestly I end up using a couple fingers idk im interested in the lever but just wanted to know what to expect instead of being disappointed. Ill try your tips and if not maybe once my lever breaks I will get the WC but for the time being it seems I just gotta build up that finger strength
Hey im 17 and 6’0 i have a lot of experience with sport quad and im thinking buy a 250 would this be a good choice for me?(take in consideration i never even touch a motocross in my life)
What is your weight? Personally, I would tell you to get a 250 and work up to a 450. But if you're between 185-220, then a 450 might be a better option. It also depends on your skill level. Sounds like you'll be learning how to jump and corner all over again and I think a 250 is the best way to learn. I'm about 175 lbs so for me, I like the power of a 450 to get me out of some corners but other than that, I love riding a 250! - Chase
@@rmatvmc thank you it means a lot!
Yzf250 2020 or crf250 2020 average rider. Have a yzf250 2017 now want to upgrade. Thoughts ? Help appreciated to chose which one😂
Man, that is a tough choice because both are soooo good. For me, I like the Honda just a little more. Doesn't have the initial hit of the Yamaha, but it revs high and I think it's the best cornering bike out there and has a lighter feel. Both have awesome suspension and are very well balanced. The Honda, for me, just felt so good right away. Either way, you're going to love it. Hope this helps - Chase
I just rode a friend's 18 crf250 and it had more mid power than my 13 KTM 250 but then the Honda dies on top end power. Is the 20 that much stronger on the top end? They say it gained more mid range I'm not interested in that. It needs more top
The new Honda 250R is a screamer up top. That's where it likes to be in the RPM range. It is much improved from the 18 and 19 models. The Yamaha is still the HP king, but the Honda isn't too far off. It would be my 250 of choice. I love that bike. - Chase
I’m 210Lbs. Wolud it be enough power for me woods’ing around mostly and track maybe once a year.
Ummm, I think it depends a lot on your skill level. A 250 will get you around but how fast? That is the question. Are there a lot of hills where you ride? If I were your weight, I would definitely probably go up to a 450 FX or RX. - Chase
Thank you very much for your reply. Yes I’m a skilled rider and there are a lot of hills in the areas I ride. 03 bone stock CR250R was my last woods rig. My weight made it work good in woods. Being able to hit the track every once and again was nice on that bike as well. Half a century old now and want similar but with FI and e start. Thx again for the reply.
@@jamesc6137 A 250F, in my opinion, will be under powered for a guy your size, especially if you're a skilled rider. I would get a Honda 450RX, Yamaha 450FX, or a KTM 350 or 450 XC.
Chase, I need some help, I am 5' 6" vet just wanting to have some fun. I have a real hard time touching the ground on these 250's. My son has a CRF150r and it fits me perfectly. Just don't know what to get 250 and struggle with the height or 150 and struggle with the lack of power. Any thoughts?
Personally, I'd go with the 250. I'd rather have a harder time touching the ground (which is most times since i'm barely 5'7) than not having the power I want. But it does depend on the riding that you're doing. Maybe check out the new Honda CRF250F. It's a mellow 250 but the seat height is quite a bit lower than a 250R. - Chase
@@rmatvmc Thank you for the reply, I really do appreciate it. I went back to the dealer today and I can't even touch the ground on the 250r, it's embarrassing... I did get the 150RB I am going to be doing some small track stuff and probably some trails with my son. It will be fine. It just destroys my ego more than anything. Also my confidence is through the roof on the 150 compared to the 250r. At 5' 6" 150lbs the 250's suspension barely dropped when I got on it. Also for about $1000 more you get so much more with the 250r These CRF150RB are a rip off at over $5,000. Living the short life...LOL thank you for taking the time to answer my question.
Thomas Sylvestro I’m 5’7 and only 118 lbs. the bike barely dropped when I sat on it as well. But after setting the rider sag it is much easier. I can get both feet on the ground and be comfortable. It’s all about getting used to planting one foot, which us short people need to learn to do. Honestly, if you can, try to sit on one and get the rider sag set and see how you feel then.
@@MotoJerg44 thank you
Thomas Sylvestro no problem
what about a 250f (crf or yfz) for a 220 pd, local races, c class, +30 rider? Too small?
220lbs is a lot for a 250F, especially if the dirt is sandy or soft and loamy. What do you currently ride? For a C rider, you might be ok. It's really hard to tell without seeing you ride. If I were you, I'd try to ride a 250 and 450 back to back and see which you like more. You can also get a KTM or Husky 350 and be right in the middle. - Chase
One is saying F and the other is saying R. Em I missing something
No it's just a simple mistake
Looking to buy soon. 2020 crf 250r or the yz250f. I rode the yz at the demo day and I like the power and stuff but I didn’t like how wide it feels up front. But it didn’t discurage me. I like the features( tuner and app) I don’t know what this Honda rides like and that’s my worry. Ik more about the yami but these Honda’s have had very good reviews and it’s making my choice so difficult. Keep in mind the Honda is the best looking bike in my opinion
You will not be disappointed with the Honda. I've ridden them all and the Honda would be my choice. Yes, it doesn't have as much bottom as the Yamaha but it isn't far off and that thing screams on top! Suspension is just as good, it corners better, and is thinner feeling. But even if you find a good deal on a 19', DON'T do it. Get the 2020 for the better motor and gearing. I rode them both back to back and I'd honestly bet the Yamaha over a 19 Honda but not a 2020. #riderred
Rocky Mountain ATV MC yes definitely a no for the 2019 The bike didn’t preform wel in anyone’s shootout. Does it feel as planted as the yami does though? I did like that about the 250f when I test rode it. Idk I think I will end up going with Honda, would you say they are just as reliable as the yami as long as you keep up on maintenance?
@@rmatvmc I got the honda and boy am I happy with it. I used to ride woods and now im getting into motocross. I love my 200xcw but it wasnt cutting it for the track. I hate saying the bike was limiting me but Im already so much more comfortable and what seems to me quicker. Took 2 hours easy, oil filter and oil change and took her to the track yesterday and opened her up. The power is amazing
I don’t know why everyone always goes off about yamahas bottom end. After hearing it a million times I actually got to ride a 19 yamaha (same as the 20) and was not impressed at all
We need a keefer discount code!
When we can expect 2021 crf250r review?
Not sure. With COVID, we haven't been traveling and not getting invited to bike intros due to the restrictions. But I'm sure they'll be coming soon. This year with the new 450R coming out, I'm sure Honda is putting much more emphasis on that bike right now. But it'll be here soon enough. - Chase
I need one ❤️
Have never been a fan of those expensive dual exhausts...
They need to make a Ronnie Mac signature model, cut fenders and everything. 🤔😄
What I'd give to have this bike and go riding 😭
Do they mean a 250r not a 250 f??
They are just referring to a 250 Four stroke when saying "250F". Sorry for the confusion!
Please can you bring back kid dirt bike reviews like I agreed
Best mod for any 250f is a 270cc kit
Are you guys gonna test anymore together?
We plan to film some more videos later in the year. I might be a part of his 250 shoot out so we'll see!
@@rmatvmc that would be Great
If you where to Race motocross.
At a local race what class would you enter
250A
250B
250C
Or Just
An age class
Like 30 plus or something like that?
Did you get Yourself a 250 Chase ?
If so which brand did you get ?
@@MX-CO No, I haven't yet. I'll probably wait for next year to get a new bike and continue on my Kawi til next spring. I have a map in my kawi that mellows out the bottom end and makes it much easier to ride. But a 250 is still on my radar. If I go 250, it's a honda or yamaha no question.
@@MX-CO I'd probably do a over 30A and and intermediate. No way I could hang with the young bucks in the A class.
I'm gonna miss the renaissance chamber...
Mad video but this dude gotta stop saying 250 f this is a 250 r
You noticed how he saying
Yeh haha it started to frustrate me
When he says 250f he means 250 four strokes in general not just speaking about the honda. 250f=four stroke, 250t=two stroke
#UPS
I want this bike but first I need a property for it 🌚
Can yanks go somewhere other than Cali it's just lazy ! same reviews different people but all in Cali ? 90% same content, dull and dusty tracks ur country is big and amazing go different places tracks and conditions.
Trust me, I wish they would! We get tired of riding the same tracks also. But to get a rig to another part of the country i'm sure is much more expensive and time consuming than people think. But you're right, it would be nice to mix it up. - Chase
He’s been saying 250f for the longest time when it’s a 250r
Referring to a 250 four stroke....
Wow, I think I’m riding my 2019 totally wrong. I have always been a short shifter, I guess I need to rev the piss out of it.
#RideFasterPussy
If Keefer says it’s good, it’s good. #FahqFamily.
With the 19', the gearing wasn't quite right. Second gear was just too short and that's why you would have to short shift it. But the 20 gearing is much better and you can carry the gears longer. - Chase
Thank you Chase. I’m 55 years old, and do mainly fun moto track riding, and the JDay Offroad series in the Super Senior Class. I switch back and forth from my ‘95 CR250R, and really appreciate the way CRF feels when I hop back on it.
I had an ‘03 CRF450R and truly believe the 250f is a much better fit for me. I totally agree with your assessment. Awesome upload as usual.