I personally wouldn’t like a JJK “shippuden” type of sequel just to fight Sukuna again. Because Yuta,Yuji,Kusakabe&others have said “if we don’t win today we lose”. Which means if Sukuna gets even a day to recover all the damage he’s taken, there’s a 0% chance of victory for the good guys.
I would love a hundred year time skip to see how all the families hold up, how jogo hanami & mahito will reincarnate and what kind of technology will be built now that kenjaku has introduced cursed energy to the world 🌎. Theyre already making glasses and cameras that can see curses.
@@JusDion lmao, that tech utopia won't happen. If Holdingbackman (Sukuna) wins, Kenjaku's Rumbling plan will happen and all of Japanese in the Japanese archipelago covered by Tengen's barrier (except Hokkaido) will become a single entity, then.... there's that huge skeleton thing, and I do not know how would the outside world even respond to all of this, like...nukes? Or a futile full scale military deployment with foreign sorcerers? Also, they literally have an Mechamaru Evangelion, so I do think that they already advanced farther than baseline tech.
I like this take. More realistic than other ones on youtube. The writing inconsistency is clearly there, fans that say otherwise are not reading the manga or don't want to see it.
Bro facts it’s annoying because whenever you bring up the flaws people are quick to say “you lack reading comprehension “ lol like bruh you are allowed to respectfully call out story flaws
No you all are just salty your daddy Gojo got beaten. “Writing inconsistency” lmao! Just a bunch of cope. Sukuna has been stated to be the strongest in history from first episode. Yuta himself said he was far beyond the horizon of ALL sorcerers. Reading comprehension curse frfr
At this point, "not giving it his all" is such a shit excuse to make the fight more tense. After all the shit these guys have been going through agaisnt Sukuna too. If Sukuna starts clapping back for the 17th time next chapter, I'm just gonna stop reading until the story's done, cause the only way the good guys win is by pulling plot out of their ass, and I hate that.
Like honestly the only way they gonna win, is if they can somehow go through like a 4 year training arc or something. Goddamn sukuna keeps getting buffs.
😂😂😂 I told y'all this after 236. That's why Gege shouldn't have killed Gojo like that. My exact words were " If the strongest (Gojo) loses in the way that he did then the writing is gonna be terrible because, no one else is currently even close to Gojo in strength. So if that's the case, no one will realistically be able to touch Sukuna." And here we are folks 😅
3 ways i can see having a chance of beating sukuna at this point. 1) Megumi finally does something but that man is currently going through his own things so thats not happening yet. 2) Yuji eats the merger (good luck with that) 3) Gojo comes back because non of us are at gojos level and now your telling me sukuna isn't even trying after all that?? Nah bring this man back for round 2 we ain't winning like this. Btw after sukuna they still have the merger to fight keep that in mind. We are cooked.
@@DhirC35 that's the critique rn. The power gap is just way too much for the main cast to even come close to winning. The only real way would be megumi doing smthg that's it.
@@sanchaykubal1212Honestly, recently watched a video that explores jjk's themes of cycles and i think thats what gege is going for. Yuji having to figure out a way to save someone who doesnt want to be saved, a situation which Gojo was in long ago with Geto
or 4, Itadori finally gets his Cursed Techinique which is something ridiculously overpowered and beats Sukuna, which is why I hope we're all wrong and it is something actually creative, but with each passing chapter we see another good and honestly unexpected way of beating Sukuna, which was set up at least 20 chapters prior, being introduced only to be thrown out of the window in the same chapter, Yuji is gonna have to pull out a Mugetsu or something, and that would be hella anticlimatic, and I dont think that would be even possible Sukuna is the king of curses and spent almost a full year inside of Itadori, he would know if he had something in him
@@Drip_WooperKashimo has an op technique but doesn't have any experience using it, and look how that ended up for him. Yuji would be in the same boat if he suddenly awakened an op technique. The lack of experience and having to learn as he fights Sukuna is such a big detriment. And Sukuna has a track record of accurately dissecting the mechanics of curse techniques at a glance, so it's likely that Sukuna would learn how Yuji's hypothetical CT works faster than Yuji could, putting Yuji in a bigger disadvantage.
Sukuna faught the strongest of the modern time and lost the use of domain Then faught the strongest person from 400 year ago Then faught the most talented sorcerer of modern time and lost his curse tools Then faught two mc of the series and his curse output is lower Now he is fighting one the strongest character maki again if that's all is not enough then maybe nothing is enough
I mean are people really surprised sukuna isn't going down easily? This is the same character that was stated to never have a lost a single fight In the hein era and won jumpings from armies of sorcerers constantly
Exactly lol I love the story and everything and the direction but this part the part where sukuna was nervous always bothered me I've always explained to people like this " imagine you are beating the Dogg shi** out of someone and then they are laying on the ground gargling spit and blood then as you are walking to your car they sit up slightly and shoot you then get up and say "" hey you fought well but you just weren't strong enough"" and then after you telling everyone you need to train more because you just couldn't match the guys skill
The ridiculousness of it would be them spitting blood on the floor and getting up. Sukuna never acted like he was gonna lose. He just lost some limbs and kept going.
@@felix7720 The fact that he lost limbs means he factually took heavy damage, despite RCT. And at several points the audience is baited into thinking Sukuna is in serious trouble (which he is), only for him to somehow suddenly act like nothing happened. If Sukuna can suddenly be fine despite getting beaten to a pulp, why can't other characters do the same? Sukuna already set the precedent that apparently characters can just recover out of nowhere
@e1ovesGames gege had to create suspense somehow. He has to make it look like sukuna is gonna lose so that when he doesn't it's all the more jarring. And imo he did it perfectly everyone was suprised and the gojo glazer called it bad writing that's exactly what good writing is.
@@FilipeG96 Yes, but his biology is closer to a curse having 4 arms and two faces. Healing is easier for curses stated by Sukuna himself in s1. You're comparing a being that's lived 1000's of years to humans that haven't even lived close to the same amount of time. Of course his rct was going to be superior. This was never a fair fight to begin with. Sukuna hasn't stated that he's in trouble once and he likes to fight on the edge of life and death so we shouldn't assume anything regardless if it seems like he's in trouble because that's what Sukuna wants.
I agree i don't understand why gege made it look like gojo was winning the whole fight just to say oh nah my bad sukuna was holding back and sukuna is actually stronger like ???? What??? He could've written the fight better tbh
@@meatballs1972 same tbh wish sukuna smiled atlest or we saw just a split second of him launching it not gojo in the zone next chapter airport. Its as if rn ch254 drops and sukuna would be death liie that would ne bs
yuji gonna rip his finger, the same way sukuna did, put it in sukuna mouth and take control. Mark my word. thats the only way i see the good guys winning
@@pestydesperado8771 I doubt that, Yuji doesn’t have enough experience. That’s a little too much for a character who just learned jujutsu not even 6 months ago.
@@fackyoutube8452 yeah I mean it's a far out theory to begin with, you're responding to the wrong guy I don't even agree that's what will happen, although I do find it interesting
I don’t wanna hear anything about the students surpassing Gojo it’s simply not possible gege wrote 2 insanely broken characters and used 1 to take the other out.
@Gurufromgsm Problem with making OP characters like Gojo is then you have to make the antagonists equally OP or story lacks any real threat. Second problem was that there were no characters relative to Gojo on the heroes side. And the one character who could have possibly been, Megumi, wasn't given enough development to realistically be anywhere near his level.
Sakuna started the more annoying asspulls when the confiscation took away a cursed tool instead of his technique despite the rules of the domain being technique removal.
I don't think it was an asspull, Cursed Tools can have a Cursed Technique, having one is what separates a Special Grade Tool from the rest Maybe it goes by the path of least resistance, Cursed Tools wouldn't have a soul, will or anything like so it might be easier to remove them instead of a Technique from individual with a soul
Lol they were lucky it did take away the cursed tool tbh. While taking away cleave and dismantle is huge but him having the Kamutoke would've been worse. U can't even guard or evade that shit. It even scratched Kashimo a bit . A dude who became literally electricity. The students would've been cooked.
@@rand12389 You can guard against electricity and we've been explicilty told through Sukuna that the students CE reinforcement has gotten better (meaning they're tankier) World Cutter cuts space itself, is near instantaneous, and is unblockable I'm sure you can guess which one of these is worse to face.
@@rand12389 i like more rules and abilities to work as stated to me them having to deal with the unexpected tool rather than sakuna just having the rules changed is more interesting as otherwise the rules of the domain were changed honestly just to get right of the tool so feels forced.
@@CrucibleGuy the entire story revolves around him. Yuji only got the spotlight when sukuna was in him. Everyone who wins a fight wins it by his ideologies all the time with an overwhelming sense of self. Yuji never got a real victory coz he didn't follow sukuna's ideals. You get what I am saying?
Ok, I understand Sakuna being hyped up as the strongest of his era, but he got killed by someone at some point. Now, Sakuna just feels like an OC from a deranged power scaler that gets all the power-ups because the writer says so.
The reason I believe Sukuna was nervous in chapter 235 was because not only was he no longer able to use "Malevolent Shrine" to get around Gojo's "infinity" due to his right frontal cortex sustaining too much damage but his RCT was heavily slowed down cause again due to his right frontal cortex sustaining too much damage, so after Gojo landed a "Black Flash" on Sukuna not only did sustain heavy damage from it but wasn't able to heal as fast as he normally would have which is why in chapter 234 Sukuna said that if he got hit by a 100% "Hollow Purple" in his current state it could be fatal, and this is taking in consideration his "Domain Amplification" was in play but in this state he is in the output of it won't be powerful was it normally would be. Now if Sukuna used DA to bypass infinity and landed "Cleaves" on Gojo at the beginning of round 2 then he would have gained the upper hand, but in chapter 235 it wouldn't work since at that point Gojo's RCT was starting to be restored back to it's normal speed due to him unleashing 2 black flashes early on and with Sukuna's CE output dwindling would have also made it harder. Now to explain how Sukuna chanted the incantation for dismantle when his two tongues were cut off was most likely because he conjured another month somewhere on his body to pull it off.
It’s frankly getting tired. Why are we wasting so much time talking about strategies and plans when they amount to nothing. Gojo glazing sukuna in the afterlife is one of the worst written lines in the series. Gege has sacrificed every single characters personality to make sukuna strong
ah yes, the one character who;s entire goal was to get more people on his level(and who blindly trusts his students to be that) acknowledge someone on his level after 10 years of loneliness shocker.... gojo fans never knowing gojo's own character will forever be funny
@@blu3d3vil97 i personally wouod have preferred him thinking about those said students. We had thunder guy also glaze sukuna do its redundant. Gojo could have reflected on his students, if he failed them, or if he seperated himself, or how he failed do much cause he only relied on his power. Thinks like reflection and thinking about the relationships already established that the character cares for. Instead he glazes the villain and undermines the last 10 chapters of fighting. I haven’t seen any other writting go out of its way to glaze the villain and nullify the last 10 chapters of action. Also it becomes redundant when the rando thunder could have done the glazing instead
@@blu3d3vil97 btw im not specifically a gojo fan, im a comic fan and writer. Gojo glazing sukuna is such a waste of space when he was surrounded by students and peers who he failed in front of, but not think about any of them and just glaze sukuna
@@blu3d3vil97 the fact he’s glazing sukuna while HIS STUDENTS BODY IS BEING CONTROLLED BY HIM and gojo doesn’t even show an ounce of concern?!? Like make it make sense.
For the Gojo part it's Simple. Sukuna came with a defensive plan, and Gojo came with an offensive plan. So the fighting approach of Gojo during the fight allowed him to show off more than Sukuna because he was on the offensive mode, so he was more impressive than Sukuna. As for Sukuna being nervous it's because he took a Gamble and a riskier option. I mean because of the whole Mahoraga adaptation process he lost the ability to use hks domain, his CE dropped, and his brain was damaged. So when Gojo was cooking his ultime move, it was the only time in the fight he was nervous because he wasn't in control. He knew that Gojo was cooking and hollow purple and he thought he was the target which would have been fatal for him. However he miscalculated it and the target was Mahoraga. Which was a big mistake for Gojo because Gojo miscalculated too, he thought Mahoraga was the only way for Sukuna to bypass his infinity which was not true anymore. Anyway Sukuna didn't hold back against Gojo, he went into this fight with a clear and precise strategy and give it his all in order for his strategy to succeed. However it is also true he didn't use all his full power, he didn't need to go all out against Gojo. As for Yuta and Yuji, clearly Sukuna didn't give his all. Even tho his CE output is low , Sukuna is still strong enough to heal his tongue in order to chant and he only need one arm to dismantle. We already so 15F Meguna with 10%CE output tank Jacob ladder. So Sukuna at 20F being able to tank it doesn't surprise me at all.
THANK YOU, Sukuna didn’t need to go full power against Gojo but that doesn’t mean he held back, which is what I agree with entirely. In terms of jacobs ladder, he tanked it when he was full power 15. With all the brain damage, constant soul hitting, maximum output Jacob, arms cut off, held by yuji and rika. It’s a bit mad he just “tanks it” jacobs ladder is a CT that nullify or remove so surprised after all that he still can just slash everyone away with the strongest move in his arsenal too. Shout out king of curses though he’s just that guy
@@GxYaw Now for Jacob ladder , it is stated nowhere it's a technique that could one shot him. Beside even the first time it worked on Sukuna it was because Sukuna just took Megumi body a few second ago, and even Angel said that they have to profit from this situation.
If sukuna was not using his full power then it would follow he was holding back. Unless you mean he was not using his full capacity here in this fight (what I mean here is all of his techniques available to him).
@@GxYaw hana using jacob's ladder still took multiple panels for the big damage to start off, against a sukuna that was fresh in a body(before the bath), with 15F(less of a soul) megumi's original body(not incarnated) and with megumi fighting back against sukuna(unlike now, which is why sukuna went after yorozu) and yuta only hit him for a single instance, it was so fast that by the time yuji swung his fist once jacob's ladder was already over
And then people will tell you "have faith in the main cast" , the only one to push sukuna is gojo and if all of the cast don't amount to the person who lost to sukuna , then the only reasonable outcome would be all of them dying and sukuna winning .
The concept of the dismantle that killed Gojo is fine but all of these creators acting like it’s ok that it was off screen is just ridiculous. Only excuse is Gojo is dumb and he allowed himself to be hit and this makes no sense
Gojo is arrogant and why would he think Sukuna could do such an amazing feat that bypasses his infinity, especially in that state? In his mind coherently he had no reason even if he did see the slash to dodge it cause in his mind it was not going to bypass. But the anime will show that offscreen or hopefully gege will draw it again in new chapters for fans who are frustrated.
Theres just secrets Gege has been withholding from us, its why many people want to see Heian Era flashback to see more of Sukuna Vow to Kenjaku and whats Sukunas full Kit because although we know Gojos, we never known anything about Sukuna. Thats why the meme of Sukuna pulling BS out of Heian Era is such a thing
Gege's holding cards too close to his chest. He loves seeing us speculate, get angry, get happy with our head cannons, and completely subvert our head cannon the end of the day 💀
It looked like Gojo was far superior cause Sukuna was fighting with a plan and the adaptation requires him getting beat up. Especially when he had the wheel on himself. Like bro's goal was literally to get beat up and stay alive. Sure he did get nervous and uncertain one time. But some people don't seem to realize how much Sukuna held back during the domain clashes. He always didn't have his sure hit around him cause he was adapting to infinity. When Gojo reversed his domains barrier conditions Gojo himself said that Sukuna could destroy it like usual but Sukuna took the riskier option by keeping the attacks on the outside because it gives the adaptation more time. He straight up completely deactivated his sure hit in the final 2 rounds . Like Gojo was literally not getting hurt during these to rounds and Sukuna just at hits and ended up getting hit by the red and injured to the point he can't have the domain and for some reason didn't think of healing it in like the next 10 -20 seconds that went on before the next domain clash happened. He had to sacrifice and get beat up a lot BECAUSE of the adaptation. Also Sukuna couldn't use domain amp constantly . So all the h2h getting beat up in the domain was kinda inevitable. He had that drawback BECAUSE OF the adaptation. People say 10 carried him when 10s is the only reason the fight lasted past the domain round. Like u can have your opinion but imo Gojo is not making it past the domain round if was against heian form Sukuna not holding back and not having to worry about getting jumped afterwards.
Gojo can just domain amplification the sure hit effect of Sukunna domain… If your argument relies on Sukunna winning a domain clash then it’s quite pointless he was grasping for his life throughout the entire fight. Anyways Gojo was holding back just as much or maybe even more, if Gojo had just took his Sukunnas head off rather than going for his heart he would have won. But he obviously didn’t because it’s megumi.
If author have not protected gojo eyes while taking first domain hit logically, his hollow purple and infinity already would have gone, it's just things work how author wants. Accept gojotards even if gojo comeback he alone cannot defeat sukuna 😊@@WinterXR7
@@WinterXR7 Domain amplification doesn't deactive the sure hit of a domain. He would have to use simple domain, but there's no way Gojo is surviving the cuts he took while Sukuna can chant at the same time. Simple domain will only get you so far.
@flipjo you know Gojo's six eyes are like his body parts right? He could've just used RCT like he was in that same chapter. There was even a panel that showed cuts all across his face including his eyes, he's just healing it at maximum output. Cutting the eyes won't do anything unless maybe you gouge it out and he can't heal instantly
I never thought i would say this, I am not coping i swear, but since sukuna is holding back, no one being able to come close to sukuna, that means that gojo may come back to team up with the rest of the survivors. It would justify the return.
All the problems will be resolved if gege gives hein era flashback and we have a reference to measure Sukunas power against hein era sorcerers and understand his powers. We dont know if his eyes have any powers, why does he have a deformed body? Flashback to understand Sukuna should fix alot of issues
Exactly, he wanted to make use of mahoraga's adaptation and 10s technique alone because he needed to reserve his heian era form and techniques for gojo's students thats why he got nervous that he might lose because of that
All of them actually. The Gojos has been around since almost the beginning. Remember Kenjaku was defeated various times by Gojos in the past hence why resorted to killing them in child birth, also explain why the Gojos are pretty much extinct and only Satoru remains. BUT!!!!! They never once said that The Gojos defeated Sukuna once in all Jujutsu kaisen. On the contrary, he killed them all(his enemies in general). Ppl Sukuna probably had something that counters Gojo in his "open" technique. Probably why Gojo thought that he didn't when in full power because Satoru Gojo could defeat him then why couldn't his ancestors do it. That's the key to this fight.
@carlosabreu2966 I understand where you're coming from, but you're misinformed. Or perhaps underinformed I guess. No other user of 6E + L has been on the same level as Satoru. We can assume this because the last user lost to an untamed Mahoraga and this is the only time we get some comparison we can make between current gojo members and previous ones. There have been no feats for Gojo members beyond this so we can't make any further assumptions beyond this, but this definitively puts Satoru massively beyond every other Gojo member until we are given a feat or something for previous 6E + L users that would go above fighting a Sukuna level threat and pushing him a bit. We can also conclude that Satoru is the only 6E + L user that sukuna has ever fought because we can see Sukuna is trying to understand the workings of limitless during their fight and all the way back in the first few chapters when he (at 1 finger) has a little fight with Gojo where he noticed something weird
@@Carepackage2966 that’s just the six eyes. The Combo of the limitless and six eyes showed up only 1 other time we know of in the series and that was when he fought the Zen’in clan head. We don’t even get a mention of kenjakus plans that far back so assuming the whole Gojo clan was actively anywhere near the current gojos level is omega cope
@@Dstryrr Nope, i think i spot on. Your assumption goes against the implications that Satoru tried to tell us, that the Gojo and the Zenins are on equal footing in power. You assume that Magoraha was untamed but the evidence points he needed a mastery of the shikigami to kill a Gojo, if not it would have been disposed after the Master death. There's no active technique less alone a shikigami that persists post his master death. If not a purple would've been enough. But the biggest disagreement i have is that you believe that Satoru is stronger than his predecessor when Satoru Gojo has nothing his ancestors didn't have. In fact the only reason why Satoru Gojo technique was so powerful was because the blueprint his ancestors laid for him, meaning the Gojos were as strong as Satoru was. This is backed by Kenjaku who was defeated repeatedly by the Gojos in the past and resorted to killing them on birth. Kenjaku being the 3rd strongest sorcerer by far would've speed blissed anyone that didn't have a 6E. Gojo was being carried by his ancestors and one of them died by the hand of a sorcerer far inferior to Sukuna. In Sukuna first fight with Gojo, Sukuna didn't know it was a Gojo until later on. First thing he did when he knows is tell Gojo he's the first one in the chopping block. Pure confidence is back always with something and Sukuna is not arrogant but extremely self aware. All the clues where there.
Sukuna being nervous like "ohh no purple might vaporise me" Then all it does is scratch gim up and he loses a hand. I think its fair to say that post fight sukuna, in spite of how it looked, was far from done.
its probably because Sukuna isn't exactly a single person, he is 2 people in one. 4 eyes, 4 arms, 2 mouths. He is clearly the fusion of two separate people. He may actually have a second brain, inside his chest or stomach area, which he may have not been using the entire fight so far. As a result, he would have been holding back the entire time. It would also explain why he was worried by Gojo. Because by holding back, if he got hit by a powerful enough attack, it would still kill him. By having a second brain, it may allow him to have more cursed techniques, be able to reverse curse technique even when seemingly exhausted. It could also mean he has much greater stores of cursed energy that he hasn't been using. And it would also allow himself to use much stronger binding vows with himself, because technically he's making it with another person. It would also explain why he is so strong in general when it comes to cursed energy. Because normally a person can not just become that strong otherwise somebody would have done so besides sukuna. By fusing with another person becoming one, it would allow him to cannibalize their stores of curse energy. Just imagine if two Gojo's fused together into a singular person. That is sukuna basically. Plus sukuna likely wasn't born strong like Gojo. He became strong.
@6:18 you know what's really funny about you saying that because this is the second time it's happened. During the Gojo fight after he lost the domain battle and got caught in unlimited void. Somehow he was still able to chant after being paralyzed, there was no explanation for it he didn't even do the hand signs but Maharaja still came out and this instance with Yuta and Yuji is heavily mirroring that same instance he's able to get these convenient things off without any real explanation and it's left so vague how he did it.
Yo see in actual japanese kanji, the chanting to summon mahoraga is more similar to chants for ct like cleave and dismante. so, it could mean that it was a skill thing and megumi just didnt have enough skill. • Skilled sorcerer can skip chantings. But it condradicts sukuna summoning totality(if he really said that) but there is a logical reason for that too. Considering totality is diff and unique than normal sikigami maybe they need chanting?? (All of this headcannon from my side)
@@somerandomdude1605 I can see that point. My Rebuttal: with 10s specifically you have to perform the hands + chants to summon the shadows and to be specific Mahoraga and that is without exception. Even chimera beast Agito had hands signs.
When you play your buddy in a fighting game that you know you’re better in, you don’t steamroll them. You might not block, or not use super moves, etc. Your buddy might get close to beating you but it’s not because he’s better, it’s because you’re holding back. Why are you holding back? To make the game more fun. Can your buddy make you nervous of losing, yeah, but it’s because you’re holding back.
I think the whole holding back narrative is meant to only apply to Heiankuna, I don't think it's meant to refer to Megkuna (Also Heiankuna no 10S no World slash gets high diffed by Gojo)
What I like is that this implies sukuna has gone all out in front of Uraume. Which makes me wonder if Uraume was part of the clans that tried to kill sukuna before being brought under him as his chef
Here is a list of Sukuna so far. Took permanent damage from Gojo. Avoided Higaruma's DE deletion. Just fucking DELETED Kashimo like wtf. Then he's faces Yuji and Yuta another 2 v1 again lol Ohh that he also impaled Choso as well. So far he has lower CE Permanent brain damage so no DE Using CE to LITERALLY pump his heart while weakened. He also took some soul damage from Yuji but that ain't shit apparently. I just don't buy ANY of this shit. If Sukuna gets his DE back then it's fucking GGs lol 😆 I'm old enough to remember the Madara weekly comparisons and we are reaching that level. How the fuck do you beat Madara after the Infinite Tsukuyomi 😂😂. Kishimoto had written himself into a hole by not letting someone like Might Guy finish Madara off in a epic and REASONABLE WAY.
so... might Guy the rando who isnt even related to the main cast of characters should have killed madara? so ig u want... kusakabe to one shot sukuna? yuji's soul damage is literally just weakening sukuna;s hold of the body its not IDLE TRANSFIGURATION or SSK using CE for his heart was done in detention center but ofc u need to ignore everything not fitting your narrative
@@blu3d3vil97 you totally misread that lol 😆 😂 if that's what you got out of everything I said 🤣 😂 okay then. But yes Might Guy killing Madara would be a better ending for him than getting killed by Zetsu lol 😆 I mean Might Guy maybe killing Madara is a bit much lol but I would've preferred that over what he got 😅. Madara was a straight beast for the entire arc and suddenly got killed by some even stronger unknown entity. It was terrible then and looking back on it, it still doesn't sit right. Madara should have been the final villian of Naruto. But since Madara was so strong and NONE of the MCs could compete with him. So he had to asspull Kaguya. Shit maybe Gege will asspull Sukuna with the Merger Curse thing lol 😆 😂 he did say Naruto was a inspiration for some things.
Remember when an antagonist used a technique to nullify techniques and they were overwhelmed through being inferior? It was the Disaster curses vs Infinity lol. Gege already established that you can overwhelm even nullification with immense cursed energy.
These were the issues sukuna had to get past in the fight. 1. Infinity. How can he get past it. Solution 1: beat him in domain battle. Nearly works but didn’t account the damage from infinite void. Solution 2: learn through mahoraga’s adaptation. He got the first adaptation but it wasn’t good enough so he had mahoraga adapt another way. Cleave the world 2. Black flash amp + preventing being destroyed before adaptation. Gojo was giving it his all and sukuna was playing defensive. The black flash amp made gojo’s output increase by 120% or more. Sukuna also couldn’t use cleave/dismantle/blackbox(fuga) cause he was trying to get the adaptation to get past infinity. Note:If sukuna was trying and got a black flash on gojo (doubt it’s possible cause we haven’t seen a technique that could get past infinity) the fight would be over. Depleting cursed energy: as said before gojo was working at 120% or more basically having his second wind. Gojo’s ct was rising while sukuna’s was falling and gojo’s rct was returned while sukuna’s was leaving. That’s why he summoned agito and mahoraga, to take a breather and fight more strategically not wasting ct or to wait or restore his rct which was slowing down. Gojo realized this and called him out, sukuna said game is game and the fight continued. Gojo hit another black flash and also eliminated agito who let’s be honest couldn’t really do anything to gojo. Then the purple. Gojo didn’t want to play the long game cause it wouldn’t end up in his favor. He needed a way to take out mahoraga(and his adaptation) and sukuna. He remembered the blue he used to kill agito and shot a red. Sukuna realized what he was doing and sent mahoraga. Gojo stopped mahoraga but sukuna sneaked out of his shadow and shot piercing water at the red. Gojo said a chant to strengthen the blue and absorbed the water, sukuna realized it was too late and gojo hit the purple. Don’t know how he survived the purple tho?could be using cursed energy that he had left or a binding vow but he did. Sniped gojo with cleave the world and gg
youve done a very good analysis on sukuna's motives in the fight. i believe sukuna survived the final purple by using rct to try and neutralise the purple when it hit him since positive energy can neutralise negative energy
Sukuna survived the final hollow purple by using cursed enrgy reinforcement. He had overestimated gojo's hollow purple at being just over 120% which was actually 200% so yeah he survived but barely as he was quite weakened while gojo was being amped constantly by black flashes.
holding back wouldnt be the right thing to describe what happened against gojo. IT seems to me that that he limited himself on what he COULD use against him and rather only focused on adapting to infinity itself. If he wanted 2 he could use everything he had at his disposal including his true form
I think this whole thing would have been solved if there was a chapter between the “gojo wins” one and the “gojo is dead on the ground from dismantle” one. When I first read it I thought I had skipped a chapter or something from how abrupt it was. I swear if there actually was a chapter showing Mahoraga using dismantle and killing Gojo the ending of the fight problem could have been solved or at least severely reduced. Edit: Also all those holding back statements and Uraume saying he wasn’t trying should have been taken out.
To bypass Gojo’s Infinity, Sukuna needed Mahoraga’s adaptation ability. This is a fact. And I don’t care what anyone says, Megumi’s body could not hold up a fight to Gojo’s. Size difference, weight class, denser muscles. All around, Gojo’s body is superior to Megumi’s. Thus, it’s written as Sukuna holding back because he literally needed to in order to win because if he went into his Heian Era form (which is his full power), he wouldn’t be able to bypass Infinity unless he used Domain Amplification, which would result in his loss because he wouldn’t be able to use his technique while Gojo could. I wholeheartedly believe, that Sukuna would’ve lost in his Heian Era form if he didn’t adapt to Infinity. Thus it’s not that he wouldn’t fight at full power he couldn’t lest he wish to lose. It’s also likely that Sukuna’s stamina returned after transforming so while his Cursed Energy might be low, he still has plenty of force to hit them with. So yeah, the students are fucked. Honestly, I think it’s fair to say, if Sukuna could bypass Infinity from the get-go. Sukuna vs Gojo would’ve been more like Sukuna vs Kashimo because he wouldn’t have a reason to hold back.
It's a lose-lose situation now. If Uraeme and more or less the story says Sukuna hasn't gone all out. Then he most likely is going to. And if the heroes cant win when he isnt trying. How are they going to be able to do so when Sukuna is at 100%? It's most likely going to be something crazy that makes almost no sense, so an asspull. And then even Sukuna fans would hate it. Because then he lost by some bullshit. It's surprising that not many people point out how the story wrote itself into corner with this.
Sukuna is my favorite character & I am getting tired of him. Why did Gege even point out the fact that Sukuna Rct output is low, his overall CE amount is low & he has permanent brain damage. Also why have Yuji do soul damage If none of it matters. Lastly I pointed out a long time ago that Satoru having no chance against Sukuna & him holding back against Gojo calling him painfully ordinary doesn't make sense.
Nobody said none of it matters. He kinda literally hasn't done anything new offensive except the usual slashes and the world cut which he learned recently.
love it that pple like u cant comprehend trash talking atp im expecting you pple to actually think sukuna thought gojo a literal, biological fish when he called him so and then make complaints about it
@@blu3d3vil97 He wasn't just trash talking in that moment when he called Gojo painfully ordinary that was a serious statement. If Sukuna was impressed at that point he would have said so because he thought the fight was over. If the fight was over right there Satoru still did enough to him to be more than painfully ordinary. He literally called Jogo strong he even complimented Kashimo but Gojo the dude that almost killed you is painfully ordinary. I'm not dumb I know sh**t talking when I read it. You can't tell the difference between trash talking and a serious statement.
Yuji will be the key I’m sure, sukuna will become such an overwhelming force and yuji’s soul damage will come into effect to win the fight (can’t wait for Gege to prove me wrong and have sukuna squad wipe everyone)
Here is a random comment Sukuna, The Endless: Powers: Unblockable heavy hits, Homing or locked in melee or ranged attack. Quotes (Start): "Let's get this over with." Quotes (Taunt): "Is that all you've got, 'hero'?" Quotes (Half-Health): "Not enough." Quotes (Death): "This isn't over! I'll return someday!" Quotes (Wins): "You cannot beat me
honestly what annoys me is there are like 8 binding vows he has made every time he was about to take damage that would kill him and were never told what he gave up to do it
@@junesucy3014 fraud for using something u obtain huh love it that jjk fans DEMAND u only headbut opponents with whatever luck u were born with, fuk skill, learning, planning just hope u get the lucky shot and never improve anything else
Sukuna was nervous because he wasn't going all out but rather sticking to a plan, and he thought he'd have to abandon his plan and go all out but in the end, looks like he didn't have to worry about that.
THE COPE HERE IS INSANE. HE WAS NERVOUS CUZ HE WANTED MAHORAGA TO ADAPT TO GOJO BEFORE HE KILLS HIM. AND HE DIDNT WANT TO END THE FIGHT WITHOUD GETTING THE UPGRADE.
You guys read things on auto pilot tiktok gen is real. It was stated true jujutsu mastery is usage of techniques without the need of hand signs and/or chants albeit a weakened version of said attack. Sukuna can do a weak world slash no chant. If he had used the chant Yuta would be confirmed Yu/ta
I was never a fan of Gogo returning but at this point the only way that Sukuna losing would make sense is if he does come back and he works with his students to get the job done, but i dont know at this point
when did he lose his tongue ?, his face was cut not his tongue. also re read the chapter Jacob's Ladder isnt Technique Extinguishment so being able to use CT inside it would be expected as it's never stated to be able to do that, only able to destroy evil
its the madara thing all over again basically. like how kakashi was unable to transport himself into the kamui relam with his eye but madara could or how obito couldnt transport kamui himself after becoming 10 tails jinchurki while madara could
Nigga that is literally contradictory. You can’t be nervous and holding back, its like Beerus. Beerus is so shocked Goku reached this new level of strength to fight him, and he’s scared that he would use it on him. Then they say “Goku isn’t even close to Beerus’s level”. If you’re scared that you might lost when you’re holding back, you’re not holding back, you’re just ass.
4:26 He was holding back to save his strength, he was probably just nervous that him, while holding back, wouldn't be enough, and that he might not win that fight. He was holding back, he had a completely different form he's been saving up. As for how to beat Sukuna, the best way I can think of is yuji making a binding vow with himself to gain a ton of power in exchange for completely losing cursed energy, or dying when his cursed energy runs out. Something similar to gon. Thats the only acceptable ass pull lol 😆
Appreciate the referring to what I said in the vid😂, also I added he may be nervous he’s holding back and could get smoked by the next set of people afterwards. Even then he objectively held back because of his second form. But sukuna has a theme dialogue wise he’s the GOAT then when it comes to actions it’s completely different. But anyways I hope he cooks and gege lands the ending
plus by the time he felt nervous his plan was working well, but suddenly gojo gets 4 black flashes and 120% power while sukuna was still weakened by UV which obviously wasnt planned its basically a "fuk this might not work as i wanted" because after all, black flashes are literally luck of the draw he lost his domain and domain amplification so with gojo gaining everything back if mahoraga didnt get that seccond aplication his high risk gamble wouldve failed and even if he incarnated into his OG form, he still would've been on low output, low rct and no domain or domain techniques like DA its like a dark souls magic build where u are risking to run out of casts but the casts are giving a huge potential advantage
Idk there's no way you guys notice this now. Look at his cursed technique. It's very obvious why he's op and it all starts with how versatile his cursed technique is. Im not taking into account anything else he has. You can't see the slashes more often than not. You can't avoid the slashes depending on what cursed technique you have and then he has two part of the cursed technique. One for close ranged and the other for ranged. But yeah he has his unfair moments. But he was always unfair to me. Just as unfair as gojo.
Gege is really making me lose interest in the story. Sukuna is just OP at this point and I legit cannot see this ending in any way without some stupid asspull bullshit. Looking back on it, it started with Gojo dying and him basically doing nothing except burning something out temporarily.
I like to think after Mahoraga's World Slash, Sukuna was trying his hardest to expand his technique's target, but he wasn't able to grasp it until Sukuna could feel the possibility of certain death.
8:24 sukunas never said or thought that secret heian era move thing maybe he has once an I just forgot but not as much as people are making it seem that’s literally just a tiktok joke
He’s using RCT where he needs it most..if he doesn’t need one of his hands, he’ll go without it..if he needs his tongue back to chat..he’ll regrow it, he was talkin to Maki a few panels later so he prob grew it back instantly. And Angels technique doesn’t just automatically remove a technique, it can remove the technique over time..if it was a one tap there would be no reason for Yuta to use it on max Output. But after Yuta healed so much his CT output would also be lowered making the attack weaker. And context matters I think it was Uro who described Sukuna as “surpassing Jujutsu” or something like that, of course he’s going to do absurd things with the power system. But I definitely understand why ppl feel the way they do about Sukuna, it’s all a matter of perspective..I’m enjoyin this cook session lol
I like to point out that even IF Sukuna loses, he can just turn his fingers into curse objects again and yeet them like dragon balls. "I always come back!" - Sukuna 2024
I personally think Gojo is going to come back, but he's going be working with his students or Yuji this time. 1. Gojo wasn't talking to Sukuna during his dream sequence. Every other worthy fighter spoke with Sukuna before they died. 2. In the dream sequence Gege drew 7 lotus flowers which signify moving north in Budism. It was also said to go north if want to find a new side of yourself or go south to stay the same. I think Gojo was done on his own, but if he gets revived by his comrades it's going to make him look at things alot differently, like for once he's not alone.
I actually think that the hand signs just strengthens the world slash like how it would with dismantle and cleave and in order to activate the world slash he has to say the chat
JJK shippuden finance wise would be the dumbest thing for them to do. Gojo was the main thing holding JJK together every chapter he’s gone hurts jjk. They have to kill sukuna in this arc so many people left when gojo died but most are sticking around because its the end if there is another arc or a series after this 60% of the fanbase is gone
Also just cuz you can't explain something doesnt mean others cannot. In addition the story is not complete we may get more exposition in due time why complain months to a year before completion?
2:58 maybe he's nervous because he won't get his adaptation on his technique maybe .... I think he will always hold back because he wants a good fight not a massacre.... If he wanted a massacer he would have gone full force 4 arms but he wants enjoyment so he will never fight with full might unless you are worthy.... Still he isn't using his trident........see i was going to comment shit but then after hearing your explanation i think it's kinda right... And then again i think there will be a explanation like gojo's fight we all thought why why is Sukuna taking all these hits but there was a reason maybe Gege will give some explanation before the show end's if he doesn't he fed up big time.....Sukuna is actually isn't using his whole 100% again the trident.... And again we are seriously ignoring the merger (that is something maybe stronger than Sukuna) so let's wait and enjoy instead of always finding geges flaws and if he fails criticise him then... Because if he changes his original narrative because of pressure it won't be right (because i know gojo fan's might actually kill him if they find him 😂😂)
2:09 That is just not accurate at all. Sukuna was injuring Gojo with domain amplification at the start of the fight before he used domain expansion. They were pretty close before Sukuna used domain expansion in their hand to hand fight although Gojo definitely had a slight edge. Then when he used domain expansion Sukuna had the massive edge for multiple chapter until Gojo used the small domain and even then he only got a 0.1 second edge over an injured Sukuna in activating his domain. If he did not get that edge he would have lost. Gojo only got a massive edge in hand to hand combat when Sukuna was summoning Mahoraga because he could not use domain amplification and 10 shadows at the same time and without domain amplification he could not hurt Gojo and he needed to take a few hits to make Mahoraga adapt hence why he was getting thrown around. Then after Mahoraga was summoned he sliced Gojo and cut off Gojos arm with Gojo himself wondering that he might loose. In conclusion the fight was actually really close even before world slash was a thing but people don't seem to remember how close it was. only really remembering the Sukuna ragdoll part probably because that was what people talked about the most and trended the most but no one considered why it was happening.
We need a heian era arc, that shows us what made him the king of curses. If we look at madara, we saw an arc that showed how him and hashirama grew. We were shown what made em different. When madara was finally summoned to the battle field and lived up to the hype, we understood this nigga lived through a generation of war and knew he was all about that. On the otherhand the narrator just keeps hyping sukuna while he's fighting some grouo of kids with doesn't really cut it. We need to know who the sorcerers form the heian era was and how powerful they were. How he overcame them all and how he got four arms, four eyes and two mouths. Tbh there's a lot of missing pieces in the character, all I'm saying is we need a crazy backstory for sukuna
I think Megumi will pull himself up by his bootstraps. I hope he doesnt go out like he's acting currently. What better way for him to honor all those that have died fighting against Sukuna or those putting their lives on the line to try and save him?
Think about this real Quick Sukuna in the hein Era already Squad Wiped Sorcerers from that Era The Strongest Era in Jujutsu Sorcery and he didnt even have the space slash yet Now fast foward to current day It Makes so much sense And u can be Nervous and still hold back And Jacob's Ladder is not a INSTA Kill
Now think about this real quick Yuta is relative if not stronger than those in the heian era scaling off of Yorozu and Takako alone. Yuta, teamed up with Yuji amped by Domain wasn’t able to do anything to a Gojo, Kashimo, Higuruma, Angel, and Yuji caused nerfed Sukuna, who mind you is again “holding back”
@paradox7566 Yea but Think about What do we Really Know About the Hein Era Fighters Compared to the modern ones 🤔 when barely know any of the fighters from the hein Era but what we do know is that it's The STRONGEST ERA IN HISTORY and the modern history is not
@@CVVLin You ask people to think real quick and you alone do not think at all. Nobody is mad that Sukuna is OP for fucks sake, people are mad that what Sukuna is pulling looks like complete BS and plot convenience for Gege. Gege established pretty well power sets and capabilities of everyone on good side, so why tf he refuses to do so with Sukuna? I will tell you why, because Gege didn't think it through and now he is using this to pull out bullshit out of his hat so people like you who do not think, will tell other to "think real quick" about an ass pull character. This looks like Madara situation once again and it will end just as bad or even worse than in case of Madara
@@senjusan6359or maybe it’s because he’s got 1000s of years of experience, is a genius and is already powerful. Like what did you expect? 😂 this isn’t a madara situation at all
Sukuna hasn't used all the tricks in his bag. We know for a fact he was HOLDING BACK. Being nervous out of a miscalculation from holding back doesn't mean you aren't holding back.
Plot twist: Megumi was faking his sorrow to fool Sukuna into false hood thinking he gave up his will when in reality it was all apart of the plan that he surprises his true power causing Yugi Itadori to land a maximum black flash to free Megumi.
Okay in my opinion sukuna wasn’t afraid of Gojo killing him with that final attack i think he was scared that he would be forced to use that form to beat gojo due to how prolonged the adaption was he feared he wouldn’t adapt in time
Fam, the tongue is a relatively small organ focusing your, albeit low output, RCT on one of the tongues isn't undoable. Sukuna not going all out is something we all already knew so why are we shocked by uraume's statement? Sukuna using CE to pump his heart shouldn't be that much of a shock neither should him saying he's not breaking a sweat. He literally was fighting megumi without a heart at 3 fingers. We know he's skilled, experienced, quick to learn so why the surprise? He technically should be able to have the same effect as yuji's hits cos of how quickly he is to pick up things involving CE. I mean he split his soul into 20 fingers b4 and then into 1 finger recently. And it makes sense that he's aware of the outline of his soul. Why should that be a Yuji only thing? Tbh, Yuji being the only one that can do that is a bit of a MC syndrome thing. Yuta should technically be able to do it since he literally had/has another soul attached to him. And so should Gojo too. Imagine if every one of Gojo's punches had the effect of yuji's punches. My only problem will come if somehow someway, despite all these, Yuji still defeats Sukuna by himself then I'll call bs. I personally don't like MC syndrome. It's the only reason I won't give bleach a 10/10 rating.
Having an OP Antagonist defeated is okay as long as it's written well, I mean look at Bill Cipher bro is God fighting weak ass humans but due to his over the top Ego he was innevitably defeated.
yuta yuji & rika was right there and cant hear the chant. i mean they are with sukuna there is no way sukuna do thing and they not notice (i think world cutting is just a technique to cut every thing in that space now its depend on sukuna output to how much damage it will be done that is why my boy yuta will survive)
Gege watched Rosario vampire, season 1 final episode, saw the demi-god vs Skunei, and said.... "That's it. That's Sukuna! Every time he weakens, he STRENGTHENS!"😂😅
Sukuna being this strong would be fine , IF any of the good guys were close to the level that Gojo represent. Even when talking about big hitters(Yuta,Yuji,Maki,Hakari even Higuruma later on), Gojo unironically could have done 1vs all and still win at WORST low-mid diff. Gojo talks about next generation surpassing him but we never see anyone display something like that. We don't even see Gojo train them that much or teach them something(with main trio being the exception). Either Gojo comes back or we need the biggest asspull/talk no jutsu in manga's history to beat Plotkuna... Edit: also Gojo not dodging this dismantle but Maki doing it, seems so bs. Is Maki faster and has a better reaction speed than Gojo with teleportation and Six Eyes? Did Gojo lose just because he was cocky? Sukuna was holding back but was also nervous?
surviving the purpe can easily be explained by the fact that sukuna stating a 100% purple would be fatal was regarding a normal purple, a direct cursed technique to the face that is concentrated the unlimited hollow was 360 aoe and improvised, it was two different technqiues(blue and red) being shot and then combined im sure there would be some power loss from that gojo not dodging is perfect sense, gojo never dodged sukuna's slashes, didnt even react to the dismantle sukuna shot after pointing towards gojo and screaming its name, then gojo is shocked the building behind is cut if gojo could see it he would never be shocked by that the slashes are invisible, visually they dont exist, but maki can detect any movement trough the differences in air density so maki doesnt see the slashes(sukuna cannot know that, so he goes by the logic that like mahoraga post adaptation she has the ability to see them) but rather she can feel the air that the slashes are moving away while bisecting everything like the weird dude in the culling games that took SSK and was swinging away, he couldnt see Naoya a curse but he could see everything else, therefore he could "see" where naoya was because it was the one thing that was basically a void in space like seeing the only part of a painting canvas that isnt covered by paint physically gojo should most likely be able to dodge the slashes but he doesnt have the ability to see them
@@blu3d3vil97 Slashes still have curse energy which six eyes in theory should see, but even if that is not true the world cutting slash as we know right now has a drawback- chanting. Everytime we see sukuna do WCS he does the chanting soo... The question is: was the first WCS done without chanting? If yes then how, and why is chanting seemed required now? If no did Gojo let him do the enhchantment? Unless sukuna doesn't need chanting and does it only for the lower CE cost or whatever, this seems like a pretty big plot hole as of now.
@tygrono the slashes are invisible as a part of their ability Every sorcerer can see ce just like six eyes But dont mean you see invisible ones The first slash is offscreen therefore the hypothesis' can be made Binding how, pure arrogance on gojo, etc Not everything needs explained, but we might get one Or at least if not in the manga maybe in a fanbook As of Binding vows about it it can be a wide array of possibilities: Give something for an instant use Maybe it is the opposite and whatever vow he made the price was to need chants from then on Maybe indeed he doesn't need them but the lower output made it so he cant use it without chanting for now Maybe the vow of the slash is the fact he cant make more than one slash(so far every world slash was one singular strike) Maybe the vow on the slash made it so he has a cooldown on it since we dont see sukuna just constantly chant and spam it
I would actually love a dark ending for once.. in every freaking story the good guys always win.. sukuna was built to be this unstoppable force an unbeatable being the king of curses.. it makes sense for someone like that to win and continue ruling the world if gojo lost ain’t no one that’s beating him I hope he wins cause that makes the most sense for our hero’s failed in the end and that’s not a bad ending but a tragic one if the hero’s honestly win it will be trash I can’t see a group of kids defeating an unstoppable being of legend.
I don’t mind seeing villains win, but in this case if he wins then it kinda defeats the point of the entire story, all of the character development and the whole idea of especially the willingness to grow in order to become the best version of yourself to help others. Instead it would be selfishness overcomes and wins. So I do personally think that would be a bad ending in this case. But I do understand your perspective and respect your opinion.
Then it wouldn't be shouen it would be Seinen. Anyway there are a few stories that have calamities happen while the protagonists fail. You are looking at the wrong genre if you want the bad guys to win, read seinen
@@matthewlewis5198 no I absolutely agree with you here 100% I think you are right unfortunately in this case abd where we are with jjk at the moment what you said makes no sense because sukuna at this point is practically unbeatable the man is destroying the main characters and he’s not even trying so when he tries what? Will he one shot everyone? lol unfortunately beating sukuna now will result in an ass pull that’s the only way I see them beating sukuna and I hope that’s not the case because gege has been writing everything so well and in detail that doing that will tarnish everything he has done only outcome I see is 1. Sukuna wins and kills everyone or 2. Gojo comes back fully enlightened like Buddha once did to fight an all powerful sukuna and by him the find way to put an end to him because yuji maki hakari are no where near the level sukuna is
I 100% think he was trying against Gojo - Uruame even says they should be ashamed for not having anyone on Gojo’s level My take on “Sukuna hasn’t been trying” is that it only applies to the fight post-Gojo. Bc he hasn’t used Fuga (useless against Gojo) and his domain still has yet to come back
They're not even fighting against Sukuna at this point, they're fighting Gege
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No, they would all be dead already if that were the case
@@spartanchief2 they're literally about to be 😂
The class airport meetup with gojo coming soon on JJK 💀@@e1ovesGames
Watch Sukuna pull the "Errrm, actually 🤓☝" technique again next chapter @@spartanchief2
I personally wouldn’t like a JJK “shippuden” type of sequel just to fight Sukuna again. Because Yuta,Yuji,Kusakabe&others have said “if we don’t win today we lose”. Which means if Sukuna gets even a day to recover all the damage he’s taken, there’s a 0% chance of victory for the good guys.
I would love a hundred year time skip to see how all the families hold up, how jogo hanami & mahito will reincarnate and what kind of technology will be built now that kenjaku has introduced cursed energy to the world 🌎. Theyre already making glasses and cameras that can see curses.
@@JusDion I'd be interested for a second and then not care. I'd be sad cuz I like caring about jjk
@@JusDion lmao, that tech utopia won't happen. If Holdingbackman (Sukuna) wins, Kenjaku's Rumbling plan will happen and all of Japanese in the Japanese archipelago covered by Tengen's barrier (except Hokkaido) will become a single entity, then.... there's that huge skeleton thing, and I do not know how would the outside world even respond to all of this, like...nukes? Or a futile full scale military deployment with foreign sorcerers?
Also, they literally have an Mechamaru Evangelion, so I do think that they already advanced farther than baseline tech.
That would be pretty sweet, but unlikely seeing Gege is interested in writing different stories
Same energy as if Toji gives Gojo a day to recover after sending merc after exhausting Gojo, 0% chance Toji can win if Gojo at tip top shape
I like this take. More realistic than other ones on youtube. The writing inconsistency is clearly there, fans that say otherwise are not reading the manga or don't want to see it.
Bro facts it’s annoying because whenever you bring up the flaws people are quick to say “you lack reading comprehension “ lol like bruh you are allowed to respectfully call out story flaws
Also they would call you gojo meatrider.
@@thomaskennedy5728 true
@@chukaugwuanyi2982Your flaws need to actually be valid and they aren’t.
That’s the problem.
No you all are just salty your daddy Gojo got beaten. “Writing inconsistency” lmao! Just a bunch of cope. Sukuna has been stated to be the strongest in history from first episode. Yuta himself said he was far beyond the horizon of ALL sorcerers. Reading comprehension curse frfr
At this point, "not giving it his all" is such a shit excuse to make the fight more tense. After all the shit these guys have been going through agaisnt Sukuna too. If Sukuna starts clapping back for the 17th time next chapter, I'm just gonna stop reading until the story's done, cause the only way the good guys win is by pulling plot out of their ass, and I hate that.
I hope they won't win. King deservers the fight with merger. We'd witness the peak of jujutsu.
You mad because the story not going your way 😂 loser write your own story
Like honestly the only way they gonna win, is if they can somehow go through like a 4 year training arc or something. Goddamn sukuna keeps getting buffs.
@@imsentinelprime9279im saying😂
I hope Uraume lives long enough to witness Sukuna get his shish-kabob’d. No glaze goes unpunished
What about Ui Ui
@@aaz.2007the council will decide his fate
@@VoiderDevilhe is the council
@@Feeliberated oh sh*t
😂😂😂 I told y'all this after 236. That's why Gege shouldn't have killed Gojo like that. My exact words were " If the strongest (Gojo) loses in the way that he did then the writing is gonna be terrible because, no one else is currently even close to Gojo in strength. So if that's the case, no one will realistically be able to touch Sukuna." And here we are folks 😅
Reality of jjk is gege focused too much on sukuna that other characters doesn't got that much built and other stuff
Gege the ultimate sakuna glazer
3 ways i can see having a chance of beating sukuna at this point.
1) Megumi finally does something but that man is currently going through his own things so thats not happening yet.
2) Yuji eats the merger (good luck with that)
3) Gojo comes back because non of us are at gojos level and now your telling me sukuna isn't even trying after all that?? Nah bring this man back for round 2 we ain't winning like this.
Btw after sukuna they still have the merger to fight keep that in mind. We are cooked.
All trash ways to win at this point.
@@DhirC35 that's the critique rn. The power gap is just way too much for the main cast to even come close to winning. The only real way would be megumi doing smthg that's it.
@@sanchaykubal1212Honestly, recently watched a video that explores jjk's themes of cycles and i think thats what gege is going for. Yuji having to figure out a way to save someone who doesnt want to be saved, a situation which Gojo was in long ago with Geto
or 4, Itadori finally gets his Cursed Techinique which is something ridiculously overpowered and beats Sukuna, which is why I hope we're all wrong and it is something actually creative, but with each passing chapter we see another good and honestly unexpected way of beating Sukuna, which was set up at least 20 chapters prior, being introduced only to be thrown out of the window in the same chapter, Yuji is gonna have to pull out a Mugetsu or something, and that would be hella anticlimatic, and I dont think that would be even possible Sukuna is the king of curses and spent almost a full year inside of Itadori, he would know if he had something in him
@@Drip_WooperKashimo has an op technique but doesn't have any experience using it, and look how that ended up for him. Yuji would be in the same boat if he suddenly awakened an op technique. The lack of experience and having to learn as he fights Sukuna is such a big detriment. And Sukuna has a track record of accurately dissecting the mechanics of curse techniques at a glance, so it's likely that Sukuna would learn how Yuji's hypothetical CT works faster than Yuji could, putting Yuji in a bigger disadvantage.
Sukuna faught the strongest of the modern time and lost the use of domain
Then faught the strongest person from 400 year ago
Then faught the most talented sorcerer of modern time and lost his curse tools
Then faught two mc of the series and his curse output is lower
Now he is fighting one the strongest character maki again if that's all is not enough then maybe nothing is enough
I mean are people really surprised sukuna isn't going down easily? This is the same character that was stated to never have a lost a single fight In the hein era and won jumpings from armies of sorcerers constantly
@@chromtastic2092 true i kind a feel like sukuna is gonna win and gege would be like good guys don't always win
Plot is plot Sukuna is still gonna lose anyway, it's a trope, if you seem winning you are actually losing.
@@chromtastic2092
There's a difference between being difficult vs impossible to put down
@@QuazarNovaPrimecope
I can't tell if Gege is rushing or extending cuz what the hell is this
Lmao you don’t even know which one it is.
Gege is bad… because he just is!
Lol
Exactly lol I love the story and everything and the direction but this part the part where sukuna was nervous always bothered me I've always explained to people like this " imagine you are beating the Dogg shi** out of someone and then they are laying on the ground gargling spit and blood then as you are walking to your car they sit up slightly and shoot you then get up and say "" hey you fought well but you just weren't strong enough"" and then after you telling everyone you need to train more because you just couldn't match the guys skill
The ridiculousness of it would be them spitting blood on the floor and getting up. Sukuna never acted like he was gonna lose. He just lost some limbs and kept going.
@@felix7720 yeah he looked totally fine after face tanking that hollow purple 🙄
@@felix7720 The fact that he lost limbs means he factually took heavy damage, despite RCT. And at several points the audience is baited into thinking Sukuna is in serious trouble (which he is), only for him to somehow suddenly act like nothing happened.
If Sukuna can suddenly be fine despite getting beaten to a pulp, why can't other characters do the same? Sukuna already set the precedent that apparently characters can just recover out of nowhere
@e1ovesGames gege had to create suspense somehow. He has to make it look like sukuna is gonna lose so that when he doesn't it's all the more jarring. And imo he did it perfectly everyone was suprised and the gojo glazer called it bad writing that's exactly what good writing is.
@@FilipeG96 Yes, but his biology is closer to a curse having 4 arms and two faces. Healing is easier for curses stated by Sukuna himself in s1. You're comparing a being that's lived 1000's of years to humans that haven't even lived close to the same amount of time. Of course his rct was going to be superior. This was never a fair fight to begin with. Sukuna hasn't stated that he's in trouble once and he likes to fight on the edge of life and death so we shouldn't assume anything regardless if it seems like he's in trouble because that's what Sukuna wants.
I agree i don't understand why gege made it look like gojo was winning the whole fight just to say oh nah my bad sukuna was holding back and sukuna is actually stronger like ???? What??? He could've written the fight better tbh
Off screening Gojo after that build up killed the story for me. Everything else has been downhill
@@meatballs1972 same tbh wish sukuna smiled atlest or we saw just a split second of him launching it not gojo in the zone next chapter airport. Its as if rn ch254 drops and sukuna would be death liie that would ne bs
yuji gonna rip his finger, the same way sukuna did, put it in sukuna mouth and take control. Mark my word. thats the only way i see the good guys winning
bro bouta force feed suki
It would just be a regular finger. Sukuna’s fingers are cursed objects he condenses his power into.
@@fackyoutube8452he clearly means yuji doing the same with his own soul and CE
@@pestydesperado8771 I doubt that, Yuji doesn’t have enough experience. That’s a little too much for a character who just learned jujutsu not even 6 months ago.
@@fackyoutube8452 yeah I mean it's a far out theory to begin with, you're responding to the wrong guy I don't even agree that's what will happen, although I do find it interesting
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again , Gojo was the strongest. Everybody after him is fodder , if Gojo couldn’t beat him nobody else can.
I don’t wanna hear anything about the students surpassing Gojo it’s simply not possible gege wrote 2 insanely broken characters and used 1 to take the other out.
Gege clearly said Takaba could compete with Gojo tho, I think his design is not that appealing so most of you forget about him so it is okay.
Nah, you forgot about Ligma…. Gege stated that Ligma could be stronger than Gojo.
@@tokyoghoulre1582
Sukuna: Gege is not gonna take you seriously if you keep saying "can compete with Gojo."
😂😂😂
@Gurufromgsm Problem with making OP characters like Gojo is then you have to make the antagonists equally OP or story lacks any real threat. Second problem was that there were no characters relative to Gojo on the heroes side. And the one character who could have possibly been, Megumi, wasn't given enough development to realistically be anywhere near his level.
Sakuna started the more annoying asspulls when the confiscation took away a cursed tool instead of his technique despite the rules of the domain being technique removal.
I don't think it was an asspull, Cursed Tools can have a Cursed Technique, having one is what separates a Special Grade Tool from the rest
Maybe it goes by the path of least resistance, Cursed Tools wouldn't have a soul, will or anything like so it might be easier to remove them instead of a Technique from individual with a soul
Cry
Lol they were lucky it did take away the cursed tool tbh. While taking away cleave and dismantle is huge but him having the Kamutoke would've been worse. U can't even guard or evade that shit. It even scratched Kashimo a bit . A dude who became literally electricity. The students would've been cooked.
@@rand12389 You can guard against electricity and we've been explicilty told through Sukuna that the students CE reinforcement has gotten better (meaning they're tankier)
World Cutter cuts space itself, is near instantaneous, and is unblockable
I'm sure you can guess which one of these is worse to face.
@@rand12389 i like more rules and abilities to work as stated to me them having to deal with the unexpected tool rather than sakuna just having the rules changed is more interesting as otherwise the rules of the domain were changed honestly just to get right of the tool so feels forced.
At this point sukuna is the main character XD
sukuna kaisen is real
He always was. Not joking. The entire story revolves around his ideology of selfishness and jujutsu
@@Pqihtyieojn12 Main antagonist? Yes. Main character? no.
@@CrucibleGuy the entire story revolves around him. Yuji only got the spotlight when sukuna was in him. Everyone who wins a fight wins it by his ideologies all the time with an overwhelming sense of self. Yuji never got a real victory coz he didn't follow sukuna's ideals. You get what I am saying?
Ok, I understand Sakuna being hyped up as the strongest of his era, but he got killed by someone at some point. Now, Sakuna just feels like an OC from a deranged power scaler that gets all the power-ups because the writer says so.
He did not get killed I think .
I think its implied he did a deal with Kenjaku to become cursed object .
He sealed himself and they said they killed him
The reason I believe Sukuna was nervous in chapter 235 was because not only was he no longer able to use "Malevolent Shrine" to get around Gojo's "infinity" due to his right frontal cortex sustaining too much damage but his RCT was heavily slowed down cause again due to his right frontal cortex sustaining too much damage, so after Gojo landed a "Black Flash" on Sukuna not only did sustain heavy damage from it but wasn't able to heal as fast as he normally would have which is why in chapter 234 Sukuna said that if he got hit by a 100% "Hollow Purple" in his current state it could be fatal, and this is taking in consideration his "Domain Amplification" was in play but in this state he is in the output of it won't be powerful was it normally would be. Now if Sukuna used DA to bypass infinity and landed "Cleaves" on Gojo at the beginning of round 2 then he would have gained the upper hand, but in chapter 235 it wouldn't work since at that point Gojo's RCT was starting to be restored back to it's normal speed due to him unleashing 2 black flashes early on and with Sukuna's CE output dwindling would have also made it harder.
Now to explain how Sukuna chanted the incantation for dismantle when his two tongues were cut off was most likely because he conjured another month somewhere on his body to pull it off.
It’s frankly getting tired. Why are we wasting so much time talking about strategies and plans when they amount to nothing.
Gojo glazing sukuna in the afterlife is one of the worst written lines in the series.
Gege has sacrificed every single characters personality to make sukuna strong
ah yes, the one character who;s entire goal was to get more people on his level(and who blindly trusts his students to be that) acknowledge someone on his level after 10 years of loneliness
shocker.... gojo fans never knowing gojo's own character will forever be funny
@@blu3d3vil97 i personally wouod have preferred him thinking about those said students. We had thunder guy also glaze sukuna do its redundant. Gojo could have reflected on his students, if he failed them, or if he seperated himself, or how he failed do much cause he only relied on his power.
Thinks like reflection and thinking about the relationships already established that the character cares for. Instead he glazes the villain and undermines the last 10 chapters of fighting.
I haven’t seen any other writting go out of its way to glaze the villain and nullify the last 10 chapters of action. Also it becomes redundant when the rando thunder could have done the glazing instead
@@blu3d3vil97 btw im not specifically a gojo fan, im a comic fan and writer. Gojo glazing sukuna is such a waste of space when he was surrounded by students and peers who he failed in front of, but not think about any of them and just glaze sukuna
@@blu3d3vil97 the fact he’s glazing sukuna while HIS STUDENTS BODY IS BEING CONTROLLED BY HIM and gojo doesn’t even show an ounce of concern?!? Like make it make sense.
For the Gojo part it's Simple. Sukuna came with a defensive plan, and Gojo came with an offensive plan. So the fighting approach of Gojo during the fight allowed him to show off more than Sukuna because he was on the offensive mode, so he was more impressive than Sukuna.
As for Sukuna being nervous it's because he took a Gamble and a riskier option. I mean because of the whole Mahoraga adaptation process he lost the ability to use hks domain, his CE dropped, and his brain was damaged. So when Gojo was cooking his ultime move, it was the only time in the fight he was nervous because he wasn't in control. He knew that Gojo was cooking and hollow purple and he thought he was the target which would have been fatal for him. However he miscalculated it and the target was Mahoraga. Which was a big mistake for Gojo because Gojo miscalculated too, he thought Mahoraga was the only way for Sukuna to bypass his infinity which was not true anymore.
Anyway Sukuna didn't hold back against Gojo, he went into this fight with a clear and precise strategy and give it his all in order for his strategy to succeed. However it is also true he didn't use all his full power, he didn't need to go all out against Gojo.
As for Yuta and Yuji, clearly Sukuna didn't give his all. Even tho his CE output is low , Sukuna is still strong enough to heal his tongue in order to chant and he only need one arm to dismantle.
We already so 15F Meguna with 10%CE output tank Jacob ladder. So Sukuna at 20F being able to tank it doesn't surprise me at all.
THANK YOU, Sukuna didn’t need to go full power against Gojo but that doesn’t mean he held back, which is what I agree with entirely.
In terms of jacobs ladder, he tanked it when he was full power 15. With all the brain damage, constant soul hitting, maximum output Jacob, arms cut off, held by yuji and rika. It’s a bit mad he just “tanks it” jacobs ladder is a CT that nullify or remove so surprised after all that he still can just slash everyone away with the strongest move in his arsenal too. Shout out king of curses though he’s just that guy
@@GxYaw Now for Jacob ladder , it is stated nowhere it's a technique that could one shot him. Beside even the first time it worked on Sukuna it was because Sukuna just took Megumi body a few second ago, and even Angel said that they have to profit from this situation.
If sukuna was not using his full power then it would follow he was holding back. Unless you mean he was not using his full capacity here in this fight (what I mean here is all of his techniques available to him).
@@GxYaw hana using jacob's ladder still took multiple panels for the big damage to start off, against a sukuna that was fresh in a body(before the bath), with 15F(less of a soul) megumi's original body(not incarnated) and with megumi fighting back against sukuna(unlike now, which is why sukuna went after yorozu)
and yuta only hit him for a single instance, it was so fast that by the time yuji swung his fist once jacob's ladder was already over
Well said
And then people will tell you "have faith in the main cast" , the only one to push sukuna is gojo and if all of the cast don't amount to the person who lost to sukuna , then the only reasonable outcome would be all of them dying and sukuna winning .
The concept of the dismantle that killed Gojo is fine but all of these creators acting like it’s ok that it was off screen is just ridiculous. Only excuse is Gojo is dumb and he allowed himself to be hit and this makes no sense
Gojo is arrogant and why would he think Sukuna could do such an amazing feat that bypasses his infinity, especially in that state? In his mind coherently he had no reason even if he did see the slash to dodge it cause in his mind it was not going to bypass. But the anime will show that offscreen or hopefully gege will
draw it again in new chapters for fans who are frustrated.
Pretty much what's being said is, Gojo was the last and only hope they had. Get ready for the Tengen merger! 😂
Theres just secrets Gege has been withholding from us, its why many people want to see Heian Era flashback to see more of Sukuna Vow to Kenjaku and whats Sukunas full Kit because although we know Gojos, we never known anything about Sukuna. Thats why the meme of Sukuna pulling BS out of Heian Era is such a thing
Gege's holding cards too close to his chest. He loves seeing us speculate, get angry, get happy with our head cannons, and completely subvert our head cannon the end of the day 💀
@@zizu-lakakahow many times is he gonna subvert exceptions before people stop caring?
people will never stop caring. That's what gege has discovered, because we are all addicted to speculations 💀@@Ooks012
It looked like Gojo was far superior cause Sukuna was fighting with a plan and the adaptation requires him getting beat up. Especially when he had the wheel on himself. Like bro's goal was literally to get beat up and stay alive. Sure he did get nervous and uncertain one time. But some people don't seem to realize how much Sukuna held back during the domain clashes. He always didn't have his sure hit around him cause he was adapting to infinity. When Gojo reversed his domains barrier conditions Gojo himself said that Sukuna could destroy it like usual but Sukuna took the riskier option by keeping the attacks on the outside because it gives the adaptation more time. He straight up completely deactivated his sure hit in the final 2 rounds . Like Gojo was literally not getting hurt during these to rounds and Sukuna just at hits and ended up getting hit by the red and injured to the point he can't have the domain and for some reason didn't think of healing it in like the next 10 -20 seconds that went on before the next domain clash happened. He had to sacrifice and get beat up a lot BECAUSE of the adaptation. Also Sukuna couldn't use domain amp constantly . So all the h2h getting beat up in the domain was kinda inevitable. He had that drawback BECAUSE OF the adaptation. People say 10 carried him when 10s is the only reason the fight lasted past the domain round. Like u can have your opinion but imo Gojo is not making it past the domain round if was against heian form Sukuna not holding back and not having to worry about getting jumped afterwards.
Gojo can just domain amplification the sure hit effect of Sukunna domain… If your argument relies on Sukunna winning a domain clash then it’s quite pointless he was grasping for his life throughout the entire fight. Anyways Gojo was holding back just as much or maybe even more, if Gojo had just took his Sukunnas head off rather than going for his heart he would have won. But he obviously didn’t because it’s megumi.
If author have not protected gojo eyes while taking first domain hit logically, his hollow purple and infinity already would have gone, it's just things work how author wants. Accept gojotards even if gojo comeback he alone cannot defeat sukuna 😊@@WinterXR7
@@WinterXR7 lmao Gojo was not holding back at all aside from not maiming megumis body. That didn’t even matter because mahoraga stopped him anyways
@@WinterXR7 Domain amplification doesn't deactive the sure hit of a domain. He would have to use simple domain, but there's no way Gojo is surviving the cuts he took while Sukuna can chant at the same time. Simple domain will only get you so far.
@flipjo you know Gojo's six eyes are like his body parts right? He could've just used RCT like he was in that same chapter. There was even a panel that showed cuts all across his face including his eyes, he's just healing it at maximum output. Cutting the eyes won't do anything unless maybe you gouge it out and he can't heal instantly
I never thought i would say this, I am not coping i swear, but since sukuna is holding back, no one being able to come close to sukuna, that means that gojo may come back to team up with the rest of the survivors. It would justify the return.
All the problems will be resolved if gege gives hein era flashback and we have a reference to measure Sukunas power against hein era sorcerers and understand his powers. We dont know if his eyes have any powers, why does he have a deformed body? Flashback to understand Sukuna should fix alot of issues
Sukuna gambled that’s why he was nervous, the gamble was to do with getting the universal slash at the cost of getting ‘beaten’ by Gojo
Exactly, he wanted to make use of mahoraga's adaptation and 10s technique alone because he needed to reserve his heian era form and techniques for gojo's students thats why he got nervous that he might lose because of that
this would be fixed if gege showed us at least 2 gojo tier characters in heian era
Don't worry he will give us 5 of them
All of them actually. The Gojos has been around since almost the beginning. Remember Kenjaku was defeated various times by Gojos in the past hence why resorted to killing them in child birth, also explain why the Gojos are pretty much extinct and only Satoru remains.
BUT!!!!! They never once said that The Gojos defeated Sukuna once in all Jujutsu kaisen. On the contrary, he killed them all(his enemies in general).
Ppl Sukuna probably had something that counters Gojo in his "open" technique. Probably why Gojo thought that he didn't when in full power because Satoru Gojo could defeat him then why couldn't his ancestors do it. That's the key to this fight.
@carlosabreu2966
I understand where you're coming from, but you're misinformed. Or perhaps underinformed I guess.
No other user of 6E + L has been on the same level as Satoru. We can assume this because the last user lost to an untamed Mahoraga and this is the only time we get some comparison we can make between current gojo members and previous ones. There have been no feats for Gojo members beyond this so we can't make any further assumptions beyond this, but this definitively puts Satoru massively beyond every other Gojo member until we are given a feat or something for previous 6E + L users that would go above fighting a Sukuna level threat and pushing him a bit. We can also conclude that Satoru is the only 6E + L user that sukuna has ever fought because we can see Sukuna is trying to understand the workings of limitless during their fight and all the way back in the first few chapters when he (at 1 finger) has a little fight with Gojo where he noticed something weird
@@Carepackage2966 that’s just the six eyes. The Combo of the limitless and six eyes showed up only 1 other time we know of in the series and that was when he fought the Zen’in clan head.
We don’t even get a mention of kenjakus plans that far back so assuming the whole Gojo clan was actively anywhere near the current gojos level is omega cope
@@Dstryrr Nope, i think i spot on.
Your assumption goes against the implications that Satoru tried to tell us, that the Gojo and the Zenins are on equal footing in power. You assume that Magoraha was untamed but the evidence points he needed a mastery of the shikigami to kill a Gojo, if not it would have been disposed after the Master death. There's no active technique less alone a shikigami that persists post his master death. If not a purple would've been enough.
But the biggest disagreement i have is that you believe that Satoru is stronger than his predecessor when Satoru Gojo has nothing his ancestors didn't have. In fact the only reason why Satoru Gojo technique was so powerful was because the blueprint his ancestors laid for him, meaning the Gojos were as strong as Satoru was. This is backed by Kenjaku who was defeated repeatedly by the Gojos in the past and resorted to killing them on birth. Kenjaku being the 3rd strongest sorcerer by far would've speed blissed anyone that didn't have a 6E.
Gojo was being carried by his ancestors and one of them died by the hand of a sorcerer far inferior to Sukuna.
In Sukuna first fight with Gojo, Sukuna didn't know it was a Gojo until later on. First thing he did when he knows is tell Gojo he's the first one in the chopping block. Pure confidence is back always with something and Sukuna is not arrogant but extremely self aware. All the clues where there.
Gojo’s group airport field trip, looking real promising
Sukuna being nervous like "ohh no purple might vaporise me"
Then all it does is scratch gim up and he loses a hand.
I think its fair to say that post fight sukuna, in spite of how it looked, was far from done.
I always assumed he was nervous cause he didnt want to be too hurt or use his trump cards before getting jumped by the rest of the cast.
@@fl8704 This. He could literally revert back to his Heian form anytime but stayed handicapped to further strengthen. I respect the hustle
its probably because Sukuna isn't exactly a single person, he is 2 people in one. 4 eyes, 4 arms, 2 mouths. He is clearly the fusion of two separate people. He may actually have a second brain, inside his chest or stomach area, which he may have not been using the entire fight so far. As a result, he would have been holding back the entire time. It would also explain why he was worried by Gojo. Because by holding back, if he got hit by a powerful enough attack, it would still kill him. By having a second brain, it may allow him to have more cursed techniques, be able to reverse curse technique even when seemingly exhausted. It could also mean he has much greater stores of cursed energy that he hasn't been using. And it would also allow himself to use much stronger binding vows with himself, because technically he's making it with another person. It would also explain why he is so strong in general when it comes to cursed energy. Because normally a person can not just become that strong otherwise somebody would have done so besides sukuna. By fusing with another person becoming one, it would allow him to cannibalize their stores of curse energy. Just imagine if two Gojo's fused together into a singular person. That is sukuna basically. Plus sukuna likely wasn't born strong like Gojo. He became strong.
@6:18 you know what's really funny about you saying that because this is the second time it's happened.
During the Gojo fight after he lost the domain battle and got caught in unlimited void. Somehow he was still able to chant after being paralyzed, there was no explanation for it he didn't even do the hand signs but Maharaja still came out and this instance with Yuta and Yuji is heavily mirroring that same instance he's able to get these convenient things off without any real explanation and it's left so vague how he did it.
Yo see in actual japanese kanji, the chanting to summon mahoraga is more similar to chants for ct like cleave and dismante. so, it could mean that it was a skill thing and megumi just didnt have enough skill.
• Skilled sorcerer can skip chantings.
But it condradicts sukuna summoning totality(if he really said that) but there is a logical reason for that too. Considering totality is diff and unique than normal sikigami maybe they need chanting??
(All of this headcannon from my side)
@@somerandomdude1605 I can see that point.
My Rebuttal: with 10s specifically you have to perform the hands + chants to summon the shadows and to be specific Mahoraga and that is without exception. Even chimera beast Agito had hands signs.
Impatiently waiting for Sukuna to show us his super saiyan god & bankai that he hasn't used since the heian era. Good chapters coming ahead y'all!
When you play your buddy in a fighting game that you know you’re better in, you don’t steamroll them. You might not block, or not use super moves, etc. Your buddy might get close to beating you but it’s not because he’s better, it’s because you’re holding back. Why are you holding back? To make the game more fun. Can your buddy make you nervous of losing, yeah, but it’s because you’re holding back.
I'm praying to the gods Uraume was just tripping
I think the whole holding back narrative is meant to only apply to Heiankuna, I don't think it's meant to refer to Megkuna (Also Heiankuna no 10S no World slash gets high diffed by Gojo)
What I like is that this implies sukuna has gone all out in front of Uraume. Which makes me wonder if Uraume was part of the clans that tried to kill sukuna before being brought under him as his chef
Here is a list of Sukuna so far.
Took permanent damage from Gojo.
Avoided Higaruma's DE deletion.
Just fucking DELETED Kashimo like wtf.
Then he's faces Yuji and Yuta another 2 v1 again lol
Ohh that he also impaled Choso as well.
So far he has lower CE
Permanent brain damage so no DE
Using CE to LITERALLY pump his heart while weakened.
He also took some soul damage from Yuji but that ain't shit apparently.
I just don't buy ANY of this shit. If Sukuna gets his DE back then it's fucking GGs lol 😆
I'm old enough to remember the Madara weekly comparisons and we are reaching that level. How the fuck do you beat Madara after the Infinite Tsukuyomi 😂😂. Kishimoto had written himself into a hole by not letting someone like Might Guy finish Madara off in a epic and REASONABLE WAY.
so... might Guy the rando who isnt even related to the main cast of characters should have killed madara? so ig u want... kusakabe to one shot sukuna?
yuji's soul damage is literally just weakening sukuna;s hold of the body
its not IDLE TRANSFIGURATION or SSK
using CE for his heart was done in detention center but ofc u need to ignore everything not fitting your narrative
@@blu3d3vil97 you totally misread that lol 😆 😂 if that's what you got out of everything I said 🤣 😂 okay then.
But yes Might Guy killing Madara would be a better ending for him than getting killed by Zetsu lol 😆
I mean Might Guy maybe killing Madara is a bit much lol but I would've preferred that over what he got 😅. Madara was a straight beast for the entire arc and suddenly got killed by some even stronger unknown entity. It was terrible then and looking back on it, it still doesn't sit right. Madara should have been the final villian of Naruto.
But since Madara was so strong and NONE of the MCs could compete with him. So he had to asspull Kaguya.
Shit maybe Gege will asspull Sukuna with the Merger Curse thing lol 😆 😂 he did say Naruto was a inspiration for some things.
Remember when an antagonist used a technique to nullify techniques and they were overwhelmed through being inferior? It was the Disaster curses vs Infinity lol. Gege already established that you can overwhelm even nullification with immense cursed energy.
These were the issues sukuna had to get past in the fight.
1. Infinity. How can he get past it.
Solution 1: beat him in domain battle. Nearly works but didn’t account the damage from infinite void.
Solution 2: learn through mahoraga’s adaptation. He got the first adaptation but it wasn’t good enough so he had mahoraga adapt another way. Cleave the world
2. Black flash amp + preventing being destroyed before adaptation. Gojo was giving it his all and sukuna was playing defensive. The black flash amp made gojo’s output increase by 120% or more. Sukuna also couldn’t use cleave/dismantle/blackbox(fuga) cause he was trying to get the adaptation to get past infinity.
Note:If sukuna was trying and got a black flash on gojo (doubt it’s possible cause we haven’t seen a technique that could get past infinity) the fight would be over.
Depleting cursed energy: as said before gojo was working at 120% or more basically having his second wind. Gojo’s ct was rising while sukuna’s was falling and gojo’s rct was returned while sukuna’s was leaving. That’s why he summoned agito and mahoraga, to take a breather and fight more strategically not wasting ct or to wait or restore his rct which was slowing down.
Gojo realized this and called him out, sukuna said game is game and the fight continued. Gojo hit another black flash and also eliminated agito who let’s be honest couldn’t really do anything to gojo.
Then the purple. Gojo didn’t want to play the long game cause it wouldn’t end up in his favor. He needed a way to take out mahoraga(and his adaptation) and sukuna. He remembered the blue he used to kill agito and shot a red. Sukuna realized what he was doing and sent mahoraga. Gojo stopped mahoraga but sukuna sneaked out of his shadow and shot piercing water at the red. Gojo said a chant to strengthen the blue and absorbed the water, sukuna realized it was too late and gojo hit the purple.
Don’t know how he survived the purple tho?could be using cursed energy that he had left or a binding vow but he did. Sniped gojo with cleave the world and gg
youve done a very good analysis on sukuna's motives in the fight. i believe sukuna survived the final purple by using rct to try and neutralise the purple when it hit him since positive energy can neutralise negative energy
Sukuna survived the final hollow purple by using cursed enrgy reinforcement. He had overestimated gojo's hollow purple at being just over 120% which was actually 200% so yeah he survived but barely as he was quite weakened while gojo was being amped constantly by black flashes.
@@Pqihtyieojn12 isnt that an underestimation
I can see certain people showing back up for the ultimate jumping of sukana lol. What kind of spear is he holding on that cover?
holding back wouldnt be the right thing to describe what happened against gojo. IT seems to me that that he limited himself on what he COULD use against him and rather only focused on adapting to infinity itself. If he wanted 2 he could use everything he had at his disposal including his true form
I think this whole thing would have been solved if there was a chapter between the “gojo wins” one and the “gojo is dead on the ground from dismantle” one. When I first read it I thought I had skipped a chapter or something from how abrupt it was. I swear if there actually was a chapter showing Mahoraga using dismantle and killing Gojo the ending of the fight problem could have been solved or at least severely reduced.
Edit: Also all those holding back statements and Uraume saying he wasn’t trying should have been taken out.
Kenjaku was the better villain, i swear to god if Gege is gonna do this shit just bring kenjaku back atp
To bypass Gojo’s Infinity, Sukuna needed Mahoraga’s adaptation ability. This is a fact. And I don’t care what anyone says, Megumi’s body could not hold up a fight to Gojo’s. Size difference, weight class, denser muscles. All around, Gojo’s body is superior to Megumi’s.
Thus, it’s written as Sukuna holding back because he literally needed to in order to win because if he went into his Heian Era form (which is his full power), he wouldn’t be able to bypass Infinity unless he used Domain Amplification, which would result in his loss because he wouldn’t be able to use his technique while Gojo could.
I wholeheartedly believe, that Sukuna would’ve lost in his Heian Era form if he didn’t adapt to Infinity. Thus it’s not that he wouldn’t fight at full power he couldn’t lest he wish to lose. It’s also likely that Sukuna’s stamina returned after transforming so while his Cursed Energy might be low, he still has plenty of force to hit them with. So yeah, the students are fucked.
Honestly, I think it’s fair to say, if Sukuna could bypass Infinity from the get-go. Sukuna vs Gojo would’ve been more like Sukuna vs Kashimo because he wouldn’t have a reason to hold back.
I agree bro 💯💯
It's a lose-lose situation now. If Uraeme and more or less the story says Sukuna hasn't gone all out. Then he most likely is going to. And if the heroes cant win when he isnt trying. How are they going to be able to do so when Sukuna is at 100%? It's most likely going to be something crazy that makes almost no sense, so an asspull. And then even Sukuna fans would hate it. Because then he lost by some bullshit.
It's surprising that not many people point out how the story wrote itself into corner with this.
Sukuna is my favorite character & I am getting tired of him. Why did Gege even point out the fact that Sukuna Rct output is low, his overall CE amount is low & he has permanent brain damage. Also why have Yuji do soul damage If none of it matters. Lastly I pointed out a long time ago that Satoru having no chance against Sukuna & him holding back against Gojo calling him painfully ordinary doesn't make sense.
Nobody said none of it matters. He kinda literally hasn't done anything new offensive except the usual slashes and the world cut which he learned recently.
love it that pple like u cant comprehend trash talking
atp im expecting you pple to actually think sukuna thought gojo a literal, biological fish when he called him so and then make complaints about it
@@blu3d3vil97 He wasn't just trash talking in that moment when he called Gojo painfully ordinary that was a serious statement. If Sukuna was impressed at that point he would have said so because he thought the fight was over. If the fight was over right there Satoru still did enough to him to be more than painfully ordinary. He literally called Jogo strong he even complimented Kashimo but Gojo the dude that almost killed you is painfully ordinary. I'm not dumb I know sh**t talking when I read it. You can't tell the difference between trash talking and a serious statement.
Yuji will be the key I’m sure, sukuna will become such an overwhelming force and yuji’s soul damage will come into effect to win the fight (can’t wait for Gege to prove me wrong and have sukuna squad wipe everyone)
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Sukuna, The Endless:
Powers: Unblockable heavy hits, Homing or locked in melee or ranged attack.
Quotes (Start): "Let's get this over with."
Quotes (Taunt): "Is that all you've got, 'hero'?"
Quotes (Half-Health): "Not enough."
Quotes (Death): "This isn't over! I'll return someday!"
Quotes (Wins): "You cannot beat me
honestly what annoys me is there are like 8 binding vows he has made every time he was about to take damage that would kill him and were never told what he gave up to do it
Gege's tired of this series and will probably explain it after the ending of JJK😂
Can you list me those 8 binding vows? I'm actually curious as to what they are
@@spartanchief2 not a single one lol
just made up bullshit by him
I just love how We've gone from "he's fraudulent" to he's too overpowered
Just shows how people underestimated him lmao
On god, lmfao.
It’s always like they called him a fraud for using ten shadows and now he’s using a upgraded version of his already busted dismantle, context matters.
@@junesucy3014 fraud for using something u obtain huh
love it that jjk fans DEMAND u only headbut opponents with whatever luck u were born with, fuk skill, learning, planning
just hope u get the lucky shot and never improve anything else
Sukuna was nervous because he wasn't going all out but rather sticking to a plan, and he thought he'd have to abandon his plan and go all out but in the end, looks like he didn't have to worry about that.
THE COPE HERE IS INSANE. HE WAS NERVOUS CUZ HE WANTED MAHORAGA TO ADAPT TO GOJO BEFORE HE KILLS HIM. AND HE DIDNT WANT TO END THE FIGHT WITHOUD GETTING THE UPGRADE.
You guys read things on auto pilot tiktok gen is real. It was stated true jujutsu mastery is usage of techniques without the need of hand signs and/or chants albeit a weakened version of said attack. Sukuna can do a weak world slash no chant. If he had used the chant Yuta would be confirmed Yu/ta
The idea of a jjk shippuden is genuinely exciting.
I was never a fan of Gogo returning but at this point the only way that Sukuna losing would make sense is if he does come back and he works with his students to get the job done, but i dont know at this point
I forgot about Sukuna having his toungues cut off that's really quite confusing, the thing that really annoys me is Uraume's statement
when did he lose his tongue ?, his face was cut not his tongue.
also re read the chapter Jacob's Ladder isnt Technique Extinguishment so being able to use CT inside it would be expected as it's never stated to be able to do that, only able to destroy evil
its the madara thing all over again basically. like how kakashi was unable to transport himself into the kamui relam with his eye but madara could or how obito couldnt transport kamui himself after becoming 10 tails jinchurki while madara could
U missed this video just because u can’t comprehend holding back and being nervous doesn’t defeat him still holding back
Nigga that is literally contradictory. You can’t be nervous and holding back, its like Beerus. Beerus is so shocked Goku reached this new level of strength to fight him, and he’s scared that he would use it on him. Then they say “Goku isn’t even close to Beerus’s level”. If you’re scared that you might lost when you’re holding back, you’re not holding back, you’re just ass.
4:26
He was holding back to save his strength, he was probably just nervous that him, while holding back, wouldn't be enough, and that he might not win that fight. He was holding back, he had a completely different form he's been saving up.
As for how to beat Sukuna, the best way I can think of is yuji making a binding vow with himself to gain a ton of power in exchange for completely losing cursed energy, or dying when his cursed energy runs out. Something similar to gon. Thats the only acceptable ass pull lol 😆
Appreciate the referring to what I said in the vid😂, also I added he may be nervous he’s holding back and could get smoked by the next set of people afterwards. Even then he objectively held back because of his second form. But sukuna has a theme dialogue wise he’s the GOAT then when it comes to actions it’s completely different. But anyways I hope he cooks and gege lands the ending
plus by the time he felt nervous his plan was working well, but suddenly gojo gets 4 black flashes and 120% power while sukuna was still weakened by UV which obviously wasnt planned
its basically a "fuk this might not work as i wanted" because after all, black flashes are literally luck of the draw
he lost his domain and domain amplification so with gojo gaining everything back if mahoraga didnt get that seccond aplication his high risk gamble wouldve failed and even if he incarnated into his OG form, he still would've been on low output, low rct and no domain or domain techniques like DA
its like a dark souls magic build where u are risking to run out of casts but the casts are giving a huge potential advantage
Idk there's no way you guys notice this now. Look at his cursed technique. It's very obvious why he's op and it all starts with how versatile his cursed technique is. Im not taking into account anything else he has. You can't see the slashes more often than not. You can't avoid the slashes depending on what cursed technique you have and then he has two part of the cursed technique. One for close ranged and the other for ranged.
But yeah he has his unfair moments. But he was always unfair to me. Just as unfair as gojo.
Gege is really making me lose interest in the story. Sukuna is just OP at this point and I legit cannot see this ending in any way without some stupid asspull bullshit. Looking back on it, it started with Gojo dying and him basically doing nothing except burning something out temporarily.
when I see Sukuna's flashback it will be heaven because we know what Gege does when he gives us a flashback
When you said Sukuna was not able to land 1 hit against Gojo @2:14, I cut the video.
I like to think after Mahoraga's World Slash, Sukuna was trying his hardest to expand his technique's target, but he wasn't able to grasp it until Sukuna could feel the possibility of certain death.
8:24 sukunas never said or thought that secret heian era move thing maybe he has once an I just forgot but not as much as people are making it seem that’s literally just a tiktok joke
He’s using RCT where he needs it most..if he doesn’t need one of his hands, he’ll go without it..if he needs his tongue back to chat..he’ll regrow it, he was talkin to Maki a few panels later so he prob grew it back instantly. And Angels technique doesn’t just automatically remove a technique, it can remove the technique over time..if it was a one tap there would be no reason for Yuta to use it on max Output. But after Yuta healed so much his CT output would also be lowered making the attack weaker. And context matters I think it was Uro who described Sukuna as “surpassing Jujutsu” or something like that, of course he’s going to do absurd things with the power system. But I definitely understand why ppl feel the way they do about Sukuna, it’s all a matter of perspective..I’m enjoyin this cook session lol
I like to point out that even IF Sukuna loses, he can just turn his fingers into curse objects again and yeet them like dragon balls. "I always come back!" - Sukuna 2024
Will yuji combine with the merger to fight sukuna ?
I personally think Gojo is going to come back, but he's going be working with his students or Yuji this time.
1. Gojo wasn't talking to Sukuna during his dream sequence. Every other worthy fighter spoke with Sukuna before they died.
2. In the dream sequence Gege drew 7 lotus flowers which signify moving north in Budism. It was also said to go north if want to find a new side of yourself or go south to stay the same.
I think Gojo was done on his own, but if he gets revived by his comrades it's going to make him look at things alot differently, like for once he's not alone.
I actually think that the hand signs just strengthens the world slash like how it would with dismantle and cleave and in order to activate the world slash he has to say the chat
JJK shippuden finance wise would be the dumbest thing for them to do. Gojo was the main thing holding JJK together every chapter he’s gone hurts jjk. They have to kill sukuna in this arc so many people left when gojo died but most are sticking around because its the end if there is another arc or a series after this 60% of the fanbase is gone
Also just cuz you can't explain something doesnt mean others cannot. In addition the story is not complete we may get more exposition in due time why complain months to a year before completion?
There is obviously a reason why he's so okay so we just need to keep reading and find out what it is The story's not over yet
2:58 maybe he's nervous because he won't get his adaptation on his technique maybe .... I think he will always hold back because he wants a good fight not a massacre.... If he wanted a massacer he would have gone full force 4 arms but he wants enjoyment so he will never fight with full might unless you are worthy.... Still he isn't using his trident........see i was going to comment shit but then after hearing your explanation i think it's kinda right... And then again i think there will be a explanation like gojo's fight we all thought why why is Sukuna taking all these hits but there was a reason maybe Gege will give some explanation before the show end's if he doesn't he fed up big time.....Sukuna is actually isn't using his whole 100% again the trident.... And again we are seriously ignoring the merger (that is something maybe stronger than Sukuna) so let's wait and enjoy instead of always finding geges flaws and if he fails criticise him then... Because if he changes his original narrative because of pressure it won't be right (because i know gojo fan's might actually kill him if they find him 😂😂)
theres still so much we dont know about sukuna, at this point it seems like sukuna keeps receiving plot armor
2:09 That is just not accurate at all. Sukuna was injuring Gojo with domain amplification at the start of the fight before he used domain expansion. They were pretty close before Sukuna used domain expansion in their hand to hand fight although Gojo definitely had a slight edge. Then when he used domain expansion Sukuna had the massive edge for multiple chapter until Gojo used the small domain and even then he only got a 0.1 second edge over an injured Sukuna in activating his domain. If he did not get that edge he would have lost. Gojo only got a massive edge in hand to hand combat when Sukuna was summoning Mahoraga because he could not use domain amplification and 10 shadows at the same time and without domain amplification he could not hurt Gojo and he needed to take a few hits to make Mahoraga adapt hence why he was getting thrown around. Then after Mahoraga was summoned he sliced Gojo and cut off Gojos arm with Gojo himself wondering that he might loose.
In conclusion the fight was actually really close even before world slash was a thing but people don't seem to remember how close it was. only really remembering the Sukuna ragdoll part probably because that was what people talked about the most and trended the most but no one considered why it was happening.
We need a heian era arc, that shows us what made him the king of curses. If we look at madara, we saw an arc that showed how him and hashirama grew. We were shown what made em different. When madara was finally summoned to the battle field and lived up to the hype, we understood this nigga lived through a generation of war and knew he was all about that. On the otherhand the narrator just keeps hyping sukuna while he's fighting some grouo of kids with doesn't really cut it. We need to know who the sorcerers form the heian era was and how powerful they were. How he overcame them all and how he got four arms, four eyes and two mouths. Tbh there's a lot of missing pieces in the character, all I'm saying is we need a crazy backstory for sukuna
I think the hollow purple was more like a jump scare for sukuna
I'm actually loving it. Saying I told you so without saying I told you so 😅
'I don't like gojo cuz he's too strong'
Sukuna in the latest chapters:
I think Megumi will pull himself up by his bootstraps. I hope he doesnt go out like he's acting currently. What better way for him to honor all those that have died fighting against Sukuna or those putting their lives on the line to try and save him?
Thank you GX, someone had to say it
Think about this real Quick
Sukuna in the hein Era already Squad Wiped Sorcerers from that Era The Strongest Era in Jujutsu Sorcery and he didnt even have the space slash yet
Now fast foward to current day It Makes so much sense
And u can be Nervous and still hold back
And Jacob's Ladder is not a INSTA Kill
Now think about this real quick
Yuta is relative if not stronger than those in the heian era scaling off of Yorozu and Takako alone.
Yuta, teamed up with Yuji amped by Domain wasn’t able to do anything to a Gojo, Kashimo, Higuruma, Angel, and Yuji caused nerfed Sukuna, who mind you is again “holding back”
@paradox7566 Yea but Think about What do we Really Know About the Hein Era Fighters Compared to the modern ones 🤔 when barely know any of the fighters from the hein Era but what we do know is that it's The STRONGEST ERA IN HISTORY and the modern history is not
@@CVVLin You ask people to think real quick and you alone do not think at all.
Nobody is mad that Sukuna is OP for fucks sake, people are mad that what Sukuna is pulling looks like complete BS and plot convenience for Gege. Gege established pretty well power sets and capabilities of everyone on good side, so why tf he refuses to do so with Sukuna?
I will tell you why, because Gege didn't think it through and now he is using this to pull out bullshit out of his hat so people like you who do not think, will tell other to "think real quick" about an ass pull character.
This looks like Madara situation once again and it will end just as bad or even worse than in case of Madara
The purpose of Jacob ladder didn’t work, so it’s a bit strange
@@senjusan6359or maybe it’s because he’s got 1000s of years of experience, is a genius and is already powerful. Like what did you expect? 😂 this isn’t a madara situation at all
GeGe is caught up in each chapter...I feel like what Gege see's as mysterious and op we see as lazy writing 😂 like what's going on? INCONVENIENT AF 💯
I love that he’s not going all out
My guy you had turned off angels technique so you can punch him to get megumi ou
Sukuna hasn't used all the tricks in his bag. We know for a fact he was HOLDING BACK.
Being nervous out of a miscalculation from holding back doesn't mean you aren't holding back.
Plot twist: Megumi was faking his sorrow to fool Sukuna into false hood thinking he gave up his will when in reality it was all apart of the plan that he surprises his true power causing Yugi Itadori to land a maximum black flash to free Megumi.
Okay in my opinion sukuna wasn’t afraid of Gojo killing him with that final attack i think he was scared that he would be forced to use that form to beat gojo due to how prolonged the adaption was he feared he wouldn’t adapt in time
Fam, the tongue is a relatively small organ focusing your, albeit low output, RCT on one of the tongues isn't undoable.
Sukuna not going all out is something we all already knew so why are we shocked by uraume's statement?
Sukuna using CE to pump his heart shouldn't be that much of a shock neither should him saying he's not breaking a sweat. He literally was fighting megumi without a heart at 3 fingers. We know he's skilled, experienced, quick to learn so why the surprise? He technically should be able to have the same effect as yuji's hits cos of how quickly he is to pick up things involving CE. I mean he split his soul into 20 fingers b4 and then into 1 finger recently. And it makes sense that he's aware of the outline of his soul. Why should that be a Yuji only thing? Tbh, Yuji being the only one that can do that is a bit of a MC syndrome thing. Yuta should technically be able to do it since he literally had/has another soul attached to him. And so should Gojo too. Imagine if every one of Gojo's punches had the effect of yuji's punches.
My only problem will come if somehow someway, despite all these, Yuji still defeats Sukuna by himself then I'll call bs. I personally don't like MC syndrome. It's the only reason I won't give bleach a 10/10 rating.
I would love if inumaki came back with one arm just to yell fall
Having an OP Antagonist defeated is okay as long as it's written well, I mean look at Bill Cipher bro is God fighting weak ass humans but due to his over the top Ego he was innevitably defeated.
yuta yuji & rika was right there and cant hear the chant. i mean they are with sukuna there is no way sukuna do thing and they not notice (i think world cutting is just a technique to cut every thing in that space now its depend on sukuna output to how much damage it will be done that is why my boy yuta will survive)
Gege watched Rosario vampire, season 1 final episode, saw the demi-god vs Skunei, and said....
"That's it. That's Sukuna! Every time he weakens, he STRENGTHENS!"😂😅
Sukuna being this strong would be fine , IF any of the good guys were close to the level that Gojo represent.
Even when talking about big hitters(Yuta,Yuji,Maki,Hakari even Higuruma later on), Gojo unironically could have done 1vs all and still win at WORST low-mid diff.
Gojo talks about next generation surpassing him but we never see anyone display something like that. We don't even see Gojo train them that much or teach them something(with main trio being the exception).
Either Gojo comes back or we need the biggest asspull/talk no jutsu in manga's history to beat Plotkuna...
Edit: also Gojo not dodging this dismantle but Maki doing it, seems so bs.
Is Maki faster and has a better reaction speed than Gojo with teleportation and Six Eyes? Did Gojo lose just because he was cocky? Sukuna was holding back but was also nervous?
surviving the purpe can easily be explained by the fact that sukuna stating a 100% purple would be fatal was regarding a normal purple, a direct cursed technique to the face that is concentrated
the unlimited hollow was 360 aoe and improvised, it was two different technqiues(blue and red) being shot and then combined
im sure there would be some power loss from that
gojo not dodging is perfect sense, gojo never dodged sukuna's slashes, didnt even react to the dismantle sukuna shot after pointing towards gojo and screaming its name, then gojo is shocked the building behind is cut
if gojo could see it he would never be shocked by that
the slashes are invisible, visually they dont exist, but maki can detect any movement trough the differences in air density so maki doesnt see the slashes(sukuna cannot know that, so he goes by the logic that like mahoraga post adaptation she has the ability to see them) but rather she can feel the air that the slashes are moving away while bisecting everything
like the weird dude in the culling games that took SSK and was swinging away, he couldnt see Naoya a curse but he could see everything else, therefore he could "see" where naoya was because it was the one thing that was basically a void in space
like seeing the only part of a painting canvas that isnt covered by paint
physically gojo should most likely be able to dodge the slashes but he doesnt have the ability to see them
@@blu3d3vil97 Slashes still have curse energy which six eyes in theory should see, but even if that is not true the world cutting slash as we know right now has a drawback- chanting. Everytime we see sukuna do WCS he does the chanting soo...
The question is: was the first WCS done without chanting?
If yes then how, and why is chanting seemed required now?
If no did Gojo let him do the enhchantment?
Unless sukuna doesn't need chanting and does it only for the lower CE cost or whatever, this seems like a pretty big plot hole as of now.
@tygrono the slashes are invisible as a part of their ability
Every sorcerer can see ce just like six eyes
But dont mean you see invisible ones
The first slash is offscreen therefore the hypothesis' can be made
Binding how, pure arrogance on gojo, etc
Not everything needs explained, but we might get one
Or at least if not in the manga maybe in a fanbook
As of Binding vows about it it can be a wide array of possibilities:
Give something for an instant use
Maybe it is the opposite and whatever vow he made the price was to need chants from then on
Maybe indeed he doesn't need them but the lower output made it so he cant use it without chanting for now
Maybe the vow of the slash is the fact he cant make more than one slash(so far every world slash was one singular strike)
Maybe the vow on the slash made it so he has a cooldown on it since we dont see sukuna just constantly chant and spam it
I would actually love a dark ending for once.. in every freaking story the good guys always win.. sukuna was built to be this unstoppable force an unbeatable being the king of curses.. it makes sense for someone like that to win and continue ruling the world if gojo lost ain’t no one that’s beating him I hope he wins cause that makes the most sense for our hero’s failed in the end and that’s not a bad ending but a tragic one if the hero’s honestly win it will be trash I can’t see a group of kids defeating an unstoppable being of legend.
I don’t mind seeing villains win, but in this case if he wins then it kinda defeats the point of the entire story, all of the character development and the whole idea of especially the willingness to grow in order to become the best version of yourself to help others. Instead it would be selfishness overcomes and wins. So I do personally think that would be a bad ending in this case. But I do understand your perspective and respect your opinion.
that would go against the themes of the story. gege wrote himself into a corner
Then it wouldn't be shouen it would be Seinen. Anyway there are a few stories that have calamities happen while the protagonists fail. You are looking at the wrong genre if you want the bad guys to win, read seinen
In the shonen jump? Lol good Luck with that
@@matthewlewis5198 no I absolutely agree with you here 100% I think you are right unfortunately in this case abd where we are with jjk at the moment what you said makes no sense because sukuna at this point is practically unbeatable the man is destroying the main characters and he’s not even trying so when he tries what? Will he one shot everyone? lol unfortunately beating sukuna now will result in an ass pull that’s the only way I see them beating sukuna and I hope that’s not the case because gege has been writing everything so well and in detail that doing that will tarnish everything he has done only outcome I see is 1. Sukuna wins and kills everyone or 2. Gojo comes back fully enlightened like Buddha once did to fight an all powerful sukuna and by him the find way to put an end to him because yuji maki hakari are no where near the level sukuna is
I 100% think he was trying against Gojo - Uruame even says they should be ashamed for not having anyone on Gojo’s level
My take on “Sukuna hasn’t been trying” is that it only applies to the fight post-Gojo. Bc he hasn’t used Fuga (useless against Gojo) and his domain still has yet to come back