Killing Radovid and letting Dijkstra win is the 200 IQ option. This way Geralt plays both sides. He and Yen do everything Emhyr asks of them and still Geralt denies Emhyr forcing Ciri into a life she does not want and taking her away from Geralt and Yen. While also denying a lunatic like Radovid to win the war und massacre people. Geralt can even claim to have been neutral, because he helped both sides, Redania and Nilfgaard. He just killed a monster, so that it does not commit genocide. And in the end the North wins the war, just like Vesemir wanted. So, he didn't do it for politics. He did it for his loved ones, Ciri and Vesemir. And all he really did was Witchers work: Killing monsters.
Of course it's the best option to let Dijkstra kill Thaler and Roche and reunite the north if you think about the fate of the world but book Geralt would never have watched the people who helped him be killed for political reasons. The only time he gets involved is when his conscience comes into play, be it good or bad for a kingdom, only the people close to him matter so if you're playing a lore friendly Geralt, no way in hell you're gonna choose Dijkstra instead of Roche. The other things you mentioned only sound like making up excuses why siding with Dijksta would be neutral after letting his friends die. I think you're dead wrong.
@@House-of-Hades i've played witcher 2 four times, did everything that could be done in the game, no he doesn't want to kill geralt, idk where that came from. He's not as close to him as he is with dandelion or zoltan but by the time of the third game he can be considered a friend, especially if he helps the witchers in kaer morhen, geralt wouldn't just stand there when their life is in danger out of a political scheme, he would defend roche and ves
@@toothakace "2 four times" ? I have 1600 hours in episode 2. In The Secrets of Loc Muinne if you look at Megascope you'll see that Roche wants to murder Geralt, but somebody will talk him out of it. 2.40 ruclips.net/video/s8oQOKq4Ji8/видео.html
@@House-of-Hades That's on iorveth's path, not the "right way" to play the game, it's just one of the choices you can make that sets your path apart from roche and he's a soldier doing his job, someone who has no love for geralt who didn't listen to him and broke his promise if you side with iorveth. Considering roche is amicable to geralt and along with other references to roche's path in w3, it's also much more reasonable that geralt canonicaly went with roche's path in which he makes no offer to kill him
I am playing this quest for the first time right now and am cripplingly conflicted, putting all of the information out like this really does help show the overall outcome of both sides which i definitely appreciate, but i cant help but feel that loyalty with Roche which is whats making the decision to side with Dijkstra so painful! :(
...Vesemir wanted a great North...he despised the Black ones. I personally really despise Emyhr. Dijkstra is a lesser human being than Roche, who truly is a friend, and more often morally right than wrong. That said....I think deep down Gerald would have upheld and honored his lifelong mentor wishes...? Not sure. I'm giving myself 15 mn and a sandwich to decide their fates. A chicken sandwich (don't even need to kill Djikstra to get one!)
@@ChristmasLore If u spy on roche in loc muine, or see his dreams, he is ready to kill Geralt at the drop of a hat on orders, and even suggets to his commander he kill him, and he never ammends his racist ways. Iorveth protects humans wether you side with him or not, truly trying to make a better world. Roche isn't even close to a good of a human being than Dijkstra, listen to his speech at the docks, that's who he truly is, no matter the tough bad guy act he tries to put on.
I don't like Dijkstra that much but I side with him because Roche is just a dochbag, he used geralt in the w2 and if you side with him I think he turns racist trying to kill the dwarves and elves coz he thinks them squirrels (not sure tho) now Dijkstra I like his idea he is tactical and wants to create alliances production and science which is better than killing the mages as radovid would do
Don’t think as political point of view. Think as Geralt who doesn’t gives a shit about politics but is faithful to friends. Can’t kill a friend who was with him in battles just so north can win. Fuck that
Is it just me and the fact I like the Iorveth path much better in Witcher 2? Because I don't really see the whole "Roach is Geralt's BFF best buddy" side of the deal. The way I see it, Roach is a good ally, and a more ameanable than Dijkstra at that, but he's not a friend whose bad ideas are worth dooming a continent. He's not Zoltan or Jaskier. Besides, it's not just cold politics - Geralt is trying to protect Ciri from Nilfgaard, so a stronger opposition to Nilfgaard is *also* a personal choice.
A) Roche put his life on the line for you. B) Ves did the same, with sex tossed in. C) Geralt can’t see into the future. D) What he DOES know about Dijkstra is that in a time of war and famine, he, as a state functionary managed somehow to accumulate 20 TONS of gold. I actually LIKED Dijkstra, but that choice was easy. Ves - Sex. Dijkstra - Not even a peck on the cheek. WWGD?
it might sound heartless, but unfortunetly what is roche gonna do when black ones take over? lay his weapons down so that the white flame who dances on graves of his enemies would just let his enemy live after one pinky promise? and besides that roche unfortunetly is known to be a murderer, without a war to fight he could turn out like bloody baron if not a brigand chief
Before the battle of Kaer Morhen, Geralt asks both Dijkstra and Roche to send help in his fight against the Wild Hunt. Dijkstra says that he doesn't owe anything to Geralt and refuses to help, while Roche arrives to the battleground himself and puts his life on the line. After that event, it's hard to let Dijkstra kill Roche for his own personal gain. I think making Dijkstra the ruler of the North would be easier if there was an option to make Roche survive.
Wait guys, the ONLY thing I messed up on is letting Radvoid get the crystal ( I gave it to him so he can give it to his mages ). I helped Djisktra set up the plan to kill Radvoid.. but never did it. Is it because I let Radvoid get the crystal?
@@_forester_ yeah I figured that out. I confused myself for sure, since I was looking at other guides and some said “ do not give Radvoid the crystal “. Lol. Thank you though !
Geralt cares only for who is good and bad and he wouldn't let roche die, Just like regis yes, and radovid is a psychopath while Dijkstra is greedy, emhyr is the rightful king as always, even in the beginning at the inn of white orchard the lady bartender says nilfgardians do treat us right.
After I played thronebreaker, I side with Dijkstra instead. He count on Geralt will remain neutral and bet the right side win all the north. If Radovid only killed guilty party instead innocent people, I'll side with him.
Killing Radovid and letting Dijkstra win is the 200 IQ option. This way Geralt plays both sides. He and Yen do everything Emhyr asks of them and still Geralt denies Emhyr forcing Ciri into a life she does not want and taking her away from Geralt and Yen. While also denying a lunatic like Radovid to win the war und massacre people. Geralt can even claim to have been neutral, because he helped both sides, Redania and Nilfgaard. He just killed a monster, so that it does not commit genocide. And in the end the North wins the war, just like Vesemir wanted. So, he didn't do it for politics. He did it for his loved ones, Ciri and Vesemir. And all he really did was Witchers work: Killing monsters.
Of course it's the best option to let Dijkstra kill Thaler and Roche and reunite the north if you think about the fate of the world but book Geralt would never have watched the people who helped him be killed for political reasons. The only time he gets involved is when his conscience comes into play, be it good or bad for a kingdom, only the people close to him matter so if you're playing a lore friendly Geralt, no way in hell you're gonna choose Dijkstra instead of Roche. The other things you mentioned only sound like making up excuses why siding with Dijksta would be neutral after letting his friends die. I think you're dead wrong.
@@toothakace Roche is not Geralt's friend, if you play through The Witcher 2 the right way you will see that Roche wants to kill Geralt
@@House-of-Hades i've played witcher 2 four times, did everything that could be done in the game, no he doesn't want to kill geralt, idk where that came from. He's not as close to him as he is with dandelion or zoltan but by the time of the third game he can be considered a friend, especially if he helps the witchers in kaer morhen, geralt wouldn't just stand there when their life is in danger out of a political scheme, he would defend roche and ves
@@toothakace "2 four times" ? I have 1600 hours in episode 2. In The Secrets of Loc Muinne if you look at Megascope you'll see that Roche wants to murder Geralt, but somebody will talk him out of it.
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@@House-of-Hades That's on iorveth's path, not the "right way" to play the game, it's just one of the choices you can make that sets your path apart from roche and he's a soldier doing his job, someone who has no love for geralt who didn't listen to him and broke his promise if you side with iorveth. Considering roche is amicable to geralt and along with other references to roche's path in w3, it's also much more reasonable that geralt canonicaly went with roche's path in which he makes no offer to kill him
I am playing this quest for the first time right now and am cripplingly conflicted, putting all of the information out like this really does help show the overall outcome of both sides which i definitely appreciate, but i cant help but feel that loyalty with Roche which is whats making the decision to side with Dijkstra so painful! :(
It shouldn't be about the Dijkstra or Roche, it needs be about Continental politics and whether you side with the North or Nilfgaard.
...Vesemir wanted a great North...he despised the Black ones.
I personally really despise Emyhr.
Dijkstra is a lesser human being than Roche, who truly is a friend, and more often morally right than wrong.
That said....I think deep down Gerald would have upheld and honored his lifelong mentor wishes...?
Not sure. I'm giving myself 15 mn and a sandwich to decide their fates.
A chicken sandwich (don't even need to kill Djikstra to get one!)
@@ChristmasLore If u spy on roche in loc muine, or see his dreams, he is ready to kill Geralt at the drop of a hat on orders, and even suggets to his commander he kill him, and he never ammends his racist ways.
Iorveth protects humans wether you side with him or not, truly trying to make a better world.
Roche isn't even close to a good of a human being than Dijkstra, listen to his speech at the docks, that's who he truly is, no matter the tough bad guy act he tries to put on.
no is about are u ready to sacrafice a friend for the greater good or are you willing to give up the north for a friend.
I don't like Dijkstra that much but I side with him because Roche is just a dochbag, he used geralt in the w2 and if you side with him I think he turns racist trying to kill the dwarves and elves coz he thinks them squirrels (not sure tho) now Dijkstra I like his idea he is tactical and wants to create alliances production and science which is better than killing the mages as radovid would do
@@ChristmasLore nonsense, roch is geralds friend, he would never even think of letting him die
roche already lost when he sell temeria to nilfgard
Literally my thoughts. So uncharacteristic of him. The handling of this quest...was not so good
I don’t CARE about politics, I’m not about to let Roche, Ves and Thaler, my allies die after all we’ve been through….
Don’t think as political point of view. Think as Geralt who doesn’t gives a shit about politics but is faithful to friends. Can’t kill a friend who was with him in battles just so north can win. Fuck that
Is it just me and the fact I like the Iorveth path much better in Witcher 2? Because I don't really see the whole "Roach is Geralt's BFF best buddy" side of the deal. The way I see it, Roach is a good ally, and a more ameanable than Dijkstra at that, but he's not a friend whose bad ideas are worth dooming a continent. He's not Zoltan or Jaskier. Besides, it's not just cold politics - Geralt is trying to protect Ciri from Nilfgaard, so a stronger opposition to Nilfgaard is *also* a personal choice.
A) Roche put his life on the line for you.
B) Ves did the same, with sex tossed in.
C) Geralt can’t see into the future.
D) What he DOES know about Dijkstra is that in a time of war and famine, he, as a state functionary managed somehow to accumulate 20 TONS of gold.
I actually LIKED Dijkstra, but that choice was easy. Ves - Sex. Dijkstra - Not even a peck on the cheek.
WWGD?
I always side with Dijkstra. Cant help but love the guy. Roche is a more loyal friend, but Dijkstra is more in the right overall.
Remember, Geralt has a saying " Its lesser evil". I think killing Roach will save many innocents lives.
If I go with Roche slavery will continue. I'm not very partial to slavery.
Amen to that
it might sound heartless, but unfortunetly what is roche gonna do when black ones take over? lay his weapons down so that the white flame who dances on graves of his enemies would just let his enemy live after one pinky promise? and besides that roche unfortunetly is known to be a murderer, without a war to fight he could turn out like bloody baron if not a brigand chief
Even better... Ciri becomes empress and consolidates the whole continent
I broke dijkstra leg. DO NOT BREAK HIS LEG.
RIP
Dijks out for Dijkstra
If my friend wants to bring slavery into the country idk man, I'm not really down for that.
Before the battle of Kaer Morhen, Geralt asks both Dijkstra and Roche to send help in his fight against the Wild Hunt. Dijkstra says that he doesn't owe anything to Geralt and refuses to help, while Roche arrives to the battleground himself and puts his life on the line. After that event, it's hard to let Dijkstra kill Roche for his own personal gain. I think making Dijkstra the ruler of the North would be easier if there was an option to make Roche survive.
Sigismund is anti-slavery, that's enough for me.
The first time I played W3, I thought geralt won't care about politics so I chose the friend who helped him, and now there is a problem to think about
Theres got to be a way to do it, with dikstra, without merkin roche
Wait guys, the ONLY thing I messed up on is letting Radvoid get the crystal ( I gave it to him so he can give it to his mages ). I helped Djisktra set up the plan to kill Radvoid.. but never did it. Is it because I let Radvoid get the crystal?
@@_forester_ yeah I figured that out. I confused myself for sure, since I was looking at other guides and some said “ do not give Radvoid the crystal “. Lol. Thank you though !
Worst Quest of all Witcher Franchise ,
Geralt cares only for who is good and bad and he wouldn't let roche die, Just like regis yes, and radovid is a psychopath while Dijkstra is greedy, emhyr is the rightful king as always, even in the beginning at the inn of white orchard the lady bartender says nilfgardians do treat us right.
Dexter give you a fat sack of coin to help with the wild Hunt
Roche do be a homie, but I will not choose my homie over all of of the North. Geralt isn’t political, but hear me out...maybe he should be 🤣
I think I missed this mission unless it happens after everyone goes to Kaer Morhen 🤦
After I played thronebreaker, I side with Dijkstra instead.
He count on Geralt will remain neutral and bet the right side win all the north.
If Radovid only killed guilty party instead innocent people, I'll side with him.
I don't give a shit about politics, but I care about my friends, so side with Roche.
The greater good
But it’s boach 🥺
أنا محتار لاكن اتوقع أنني سوف اختار قتل روتش بالرغم من أنه صديق جيد 😢
للاسف يجب اختيار الخيار الاقل سوءا على الخيار الاخر
Thanks u
Dexter is like Donald Trump he wants to make redania great again Roach is like a Democrat he wants to sell out to the Chinese
If you think Donald Trump is good you should start seeking a doctor
So roche is chaing kai shek??
And dexter is Mai zedong??
Dexter would hateeeee Donald trump
Poor editting.. I even hard to understand what you have saying... Waste of time