This One Is Special - Waterman Carene Sea Green Shimmer Fountain Pen
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
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Thank you for this vidéo.
I love the Carène.
For anyone concerned about the state of the nib if you get a brand new Carène :
I have had four in my life, and got a fifth one for my husband - they were all brand new. All five wrote wonderfully well, just as smooth and wet exactly how I like it, out of the box, no tuning needed (2 Mediums, 2 Fine, 1 Oblique Fine). So I can say as a généralisation, you can trust this pen out of the box .
Thanks for sharing your experience with your Carene's
The Waterman Carene is why I am into fountain pens in the first place. My 7th grade English teacher wrote with an amber Carene at her desk. I asked about it, was even more interested, got a LAMY Al-Star and a little over a decade later I have more fountain pens than I care to admit.
Despite the Carene being the pen that ignited my interest in fountain pens I don’t own one, but I’m really thinking I may need to change that and get an amber Carene to match my old teacher’s.
Thanks for the lovely video!
I also fell in love with the carene... which is why i have one now :)
Modern Waterman pens are highly underrated IMO. They are extremely ergonomic and pleasant writers. They have both very light and heavier pens, all in that "standard vintage pen" size that aids in dexterity.
Extremely happy with this one. Looks gorgeous and a wonderful writer
Beautiful Sea Green Carene! I have the Waterman Carene L’Essence du Bleu. I had been looking for a Carene for quite some time and chose the one I got for the limited edition color. Mine is a medium, and very wet. I didn’t get the sweet deal you did, but picked it up for a better than usual prices on a weekend sale. Thanks for your great reviews!
Its such a classic looking pen
I learned something on my Carene I thought you would find interesting. I ordered a spare nib, a stub, and it didn’t line up with the end of the pen. I found out that the section threads are held in place with a little barrel you can unscrew. The threads have one direction with a little notch on one side that holds it in spot but you can flip it around and adjust the thread location to get it to align.
Have you made a video to show this?
@@nortoncmd2681 sadly no I have not.
@@nortoncmd2681 at the bottom of the threads there is a little smooth cylinder where the converter attaches. That unscrews. The thread unit has a key on one side that can either slide into a slot or flip upside down to be adjusted. Hopefully that’s enough description to help you out.
I’ve gushed about the Carene forever by now. I used to own three; sold one, so I still have two (Essential Silver and an all-burgundy w/silver trim). I have the fine and broad nibs. Very stiff nibs, but so stylish in appearance and splendid writers. I really wanted a Carene with a stub. But I could never find one in the pen color combination I wanted. The pens were always rather pricey but totally worth it to me. Or else I’d never have bought three of them. The Carene is still a supermodel on the Waterman catwalk ramp. ❤️
Dang you beat me here. Though I forgot to say I finally beat you to the Ogiva video.
@@ironmic9244 😂 Next time, I won’t comment until you do so first.
@@sajjadhusain4146 I just wanted one piece of glory that I commented before you. :)
@@ironmic9244 ..Glory achieved, then. It may happen again now that the spell is broken. 😀
Thatcolor Carene was my wedding present from my lovely wife in 1992. I have also been looking for another one in that color, and have not been able to find one! Glad to see you got one! Enjoy!
Super happy I found this one
I have a used 149 that had a *terrible* broad nib on arrival. Feeler gauges didn't work this time, but a couple swipes with some micromesh between the tines and it' now writes like a dream. It was uncomfortable adjusting that expensive of a pen, but I'm glad I did!
My Waterman Phileas from the 1990s (my first and still a favorite fountain pen) also has a glass converter with a metal collar. That may have been Waterman's standard converter at the time. That Carene is gorgeous.
My phileas also has this converter, but it is also a bit of a frankenpen- blue cap, green barrel, bock #6 feed, and either a #6 bock titanium nib or a #6 conklin 1.1 stub.
I tried out the nib & feed swap on a lark and was surprised when it fit and didn't leak, and was even more pleasantly surprised that the cap snaps on without tip collision.
In terms of nib adjustment the titanium nib took me about 45 minutes of work to coax it to write with proper inkflow and as the medium it is supposed to be rather than the stingily-dry fine it was from the factory. Writes like a wet laser beam now and I enjoy it, even though a wet broad is my preference.
I'm talking pens here; pull your mind out of the gutter.
@@NikeaTiber did you change the whole grip section ?
I cant see in my mind's eye, how to change the Carène nib with a standard bock nib ?
PS the end sentence of your post made me laugh, ah ! 😅
PS bis : i just reread your post and realised you were talking about the phileas not the Carène, sorry ! It makes sense now.
I adore the Carene so much. I have it in the Marine Amber finish and it is SO hard to capture how beautiful the finish is on camera.
Yeah this video doesn't do the color justice. The amber was the backup in case I couldn't find this green
So glad to see Waterman getting some love. I have the marine amber Caréné and absolutely adore it. It is such a smooth writing experience even for a fine nib and light to medium wetness.
Its a unique feeling pen and a lovely writer
That is a beautiful pen. I have a soft spot for Waterman as my first fountain pen was a Waterman (I think it’s a Hemisphere in brushed stainless).
That color is something special!
Even better in person as the camera doesn't do it justice
Fascinating video, thank you! I use a Carene (marine amber) with an EF nib. I use cartridges, so when the nib dries, all it takes is just a gentle squeeze of the cartridge to make the nib work. It is a gloriously smooth writer, a pleasure to use. I bought mine new for around £160, it's worth every penny as I use it all the time.
This pen is one I have anguished over for years. I am glad that you got it to work well. My anguish was whether to spend the money for this pen or not. I have tested it numerous times but kept walking away.
There have been a number of reviews recently and all have been positive. Glad you enjoy it and I will have to go on a hunt to find one at a reasonable price.
Great review.
I own a new Waterman Careen ‘ Black Sea ‘ which pen was faultless and as the name suggests is metallic high gloss black . I was unaware before viewing this video that the clip tilts . Thank you
I have this pen and love it, I recommend you pair it with Conway Stewart’s Sheerwood Green ink
I want to like my Carène more than I do, and it comes down to the nib needing some work, so I never use it. I agree, otherwise it’s a great pen that I’d probably use all the time.
I have three the Amber Marine, blue and silver/black. They are lovely and write so smoothly.
Wow! Thanks for sharing. That gold trim works so well with that green shimmer.
Based on your vid I purchased the pen in amber. Gold spot appears to sell the pen at a much higher price point than other retailers. I hope it turns out to be a good buy.
Have that very same pen. You are correct, sir, beautiful to look at and to write with.
I’m glad you got it writing better than it was, thanks for sharing Doodlebud!
The Carene is on my wish list. 😉 Enjoy
Dooooooodlebud!
I’ll have to try this on my carene. They both are dry
Practice on some other nibs before you give it a go with these ones
Glad to see I'm not the only person who inks up a new pen with a similar colour to the body :)
When were we talking about the Carene? I remember you talking about the Sea Green. Anyways, congrats on the find and the success of tuning the nib. You need to get your hands on the Exception, another very unique looking pen, for the trifecta. I can also see you hunting for the Edson.
I was in the comments when I did the video of the Expert III. I've been looking at one for a long time but never pulled the trigger. When I got the expert III to review it made me want to get a Carene even more. And so many comments were viewers saying "you gotta get a Carene" to which I say "yes... yes I do." I've tired an Exception in store and they are very cool but not sure if I want to own one. The Edson looks very nice but Im not sure if I can get past the price. So many great pens out there :)
I have a Waterman Carène l'essence du bleu, and it is one of my top 5 fountain pens. I find it writes expressively and smoothly. I prefer not to post my pens, and especially not to post this one because of the potential scratch marks the cap will make on the body. The pen is plenty long enough to write comfortably unposted. Congratulations on your Carène acquisition.
Beautiful pen for sure. I'm a bit of a sucker for inlaid nibs. I think giving it a bit of a tune helps you bond with the instrument. Glad you got a good deal for a great pen.
What I usually do with inlaid nibs is slip two thin strips of brass shim between the tines below the tipping, and then you have something to grab onto. I just sort of grab the shims and then push the tips of my thumbs together to lever the tines apart, which gives you a great deal of control over how much pressure you're applying. You also don't run the risk of twisting or lifting the tines because you are pulling them apart in a flat plane while your index fingers on the bottom of the feed are keeping your thumbs from going up or down.
Yup that works for sure. I don't have any of the brass shim material but should get some.
Nice job thank you. And Holy Cow, I have been looking for one of these in this finish since about 2005 when I first saw it in a brick and mortar and no way then could afford it. I’ve never bought on line (E-bay, etc.). I guess I need to start looking. Yours is the second I’ve seen in less than 2 months. You tuber Waski Squirrel found one on line with out a nib, no problem he had a spare Carene nib section in his stash.
Oh nice! Yeah a spare nib can come in handy!
Modern Waterman pens are generally ignored by the RUclips community. I have the Exception and the Carene and love them. This is an exceptional pen.
This pen will look beautiful & classy no matter the time period. One of those pens that can be appreciated no matter your design/style tastes. Waterman doesn't get much love these days other than vintage. But TBH they don't really do too much these days. Same basic inks, no much new as far as pens etc. There's an expression in business "If you're not growing you're dying." I'd love to see them come out with new stuff
Very lovely pen.
It really is
Lovely pen! I am glad you were able to fix the nib. Thanks for the tips!
I was happy to get this pen writing the way it should be
Hoping you and yours are keeping safe; the Canadian fires are horrible to watch.
Take care my friend.
I'm very fortunate that's it's good where I am, but I have friends that are dealing with the worst of it, it's unbelievable
Wow. This pen is gorgeous. Never saw this color. This green is my jam. I had the opportunity to try the Amber one in Medium. A very nice writer running a bit on the broader side. I am here lusting after that green Carene now.
Hi DB!: Good save on that Carene! Gotta say that is one SEXY pen! That color is VERY nice!
Can't even capture the full color in the video. Way nicer in person
I love the look of fountain pens with embedded nibs and I am REALLY looking into getting a pilot elite 95s/ E95s. A big buy for me but am saving up!
That's a great pen. It will be worth the wait. I have a vintage model and love it!
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I too like the e95s due to gold nib and inlaid nib design. I have two of them.the Champaign color is for my wife. Nibs on these write perfect out of the box like most owners report. Smooth and pleasant to use. We like the medium nib as they are on the wet side. Great pens from pilot! You’ll like it!
I won't work on my gold nib pens yet, but I probably could. i just get more nervous because steel nibs are way way cheaper and I have with them. Great video Doodlebud! And I thought the Marine Amber Carene was a sight to behold. This one is just as gorgeous. Great find!
The amber was the backup in case I couldnt find this one in green
@@Doodlebud I've been eyeing them for awhile now. That and the Pilot E95S. Love the look of the nibs on both.
Excellent show. I prefer lighter pens, but you've almost persuaded to try one. BTW, the shape of the barrel end on the Carene is called a 'torpedo stern' on speed boats.
Excellent choice, the Carène is my only mid/high end rollerball, a couple months ago I bought a Blue Obsession rollerball and a Parker Premier FP for almost half the price of the Premier alone, I'm extremely happy with both.
Great video, love my Marine Amber Carene. Probably in my top five. Bought it new from Atlas in Chicago, wrote perfectly out of the box. Then recently found a pristine black Carene rollerball for about a third of the cost of a new one. The two make a great pair in my collection! And totally agree with your comments on basic fountain pen adjustments and maintenance. With your content and encouragement (and many other fountain pen channels on YT), I’m now doing full restorations of vintage pens and building various frankenpens from parts bought on Ebay. Keep it going, Doodlebud!
Good to hear! Being able to tune, adjust, and repair makes the hobby so much more enjoyable
I own one of these that I bought in Paris years ago. It's one of my most prized possessions.
Love my Carene in Marine Amber!
A fantastic color as well 👌
Hey, from where I am, I have no nibmeister near me, so I also did what you've done, but to be honest I also was very careful as the tool was steel, not brass
Congrats on the new/old pen! I'm glad you were able to tune it to your satisfaction. The Carene is one of my all-time favorite pens and it's nice to see you were able to rescue a truly beautiful example of these wonderful pens. Thanks for the video!
I found a roller ball Carene in sea green and bought a nib and fitted it to that. Works well.
I have a Carene and a Lamy 2000. I much prefer the Carene for looks and writing experience. It has a much higher quality feel to it.
I have a gorgeous Carene deluxe in black with the gold and silver cap, which I bought myself as a reward for finishing an enormous project. It's far and away the most attractive pen I own. I got it with a F nib, which to me writes like a fat Medium. Since I prefer Japanese F, I special ordered an EF nib unit for an additional $90. I couldn't be more disappointed. Line width is perfect. But it needs significant coaxing to start writing, even after setting it down for 3 minutes, fully capped. Once it gets started, it writes well, no problem. I don't have the confidence to tune the nib, if that would even help. Sadly, this beautiful pen sits at the bottom of my never-use-it-again drawer.
If you can't tackle the nib adjustment yourself it might be worth it to have it sent off and get writing the way you want. I have a Visconti Homo Sapiens that was amazing but the nib didnt work for me. The gorgeous pen sat in my drawer for years. Finally I sent it off and got the work done. Its absolutely perfect now and enjoy using it every time. Seeing as I will keep that pen forever, it was well worth it
Wow, that's a gorgeous pen! I have a blue Carene with a gold cap. I also have 2 Phileas, a Torsade and a Cótelé. Waterman pens are very good, very underrated. I'm envious of that Sea Green finish. Green is my favorite color, I guess because my birthstone is peridot. One of the Phileas is green. I love Waterman pens.
They don't get much attention these days outside of their vintage pens. At some point I need to get a vintage waterman wet noodle!
@@Doodlebud Me too! One of these days...
Love my Waterman Carène l'essence du bleu...got mine in Mongolia of all places. They weren't selling well, so I got a nice discount.
Nice score!
Gorgeous pen and one that I had my eye on for some time too. Finally found one, new in box with a broad (L) nib from a UK used pen dealer for £120, which I consider a very fair price. Love the mottled, translucent green lacquer finish over the brass barrel :)
Funnily enough, I got my Carene 10 years ago for under a $100 with a similar nib issue. Easily fixed and its been writing great every since, though it got dethroned as my go to EDC pen when I got my Platinum 3776 century.
I picked up an unused Waterman Carene Black Sea earlier this year for what I thought was an unbelievable price. Loved it. Swore that it would be the LAST new pen for 2023. Held to that promise so far. Besides this one practically writes by itself. 😮
Congratulations on your find and (gasp) your heart failing adjustment. Great experience review.
I absolutely love writing with this pen. Just feels so natural in the hand
My fave is the Esterbrook petrified forest pen. It is such a delight to write with.
Yup, I have that one too and it's a lovely pen
I rarely buy the same style pen in different colors, but I have bought a few Carenes. I to have the green shimmer, and it is my favorite of the bunch. I also have a rarity--a matching pencil.
Just love the looks of this one
I have two Carènes- one of which is an Éssence de Bleu. They are stunningly beautiful pens and very smooth writers. Coincidentally, my first fountain pen was a Waterman Expert. I didn’t know what I was doing, and I ended up mangling the nib. I fixed it years later.
My "Carene" would be the Pelikan m800. It's a pen I always come back to. It feels so solid and reliable. Simply perfect. It is always inked.
I have a M805 and its a lovely pen
Congratulations Doodlebud.
That is indeed a beautiful fountain pen. The burgundy finish was on my wish list, but that green, wow! It’s just one of those pens. You are correct about learning how to do simple nib tuning and repair. With a three month turnaround schedule I will only send away very serious nib problems. I swear my last pen whispered tune me when I opened the box.
I love my Marine Amber Carene! It had an issue where the cap band fell off, so I had to epoxy it back on, but it’s great now! I also have a Black Sea with gold trim, but it has a problem where the cap feels loose. Not sure what to do about it.
I love mine. The nib is outstanding. Especially for a company that makes its money mostly from plastic food storage 😆 What I've heard so far people seemed to be rather satisfied with Waterman and Parker gold nibs and I had the impression that they are rather consistent, smooth, maybe a bit prone to baby's bottom. I'm not sure whether I'm just lucky but both of my modern Dufolds (one is an Akkerman, yeah 😎) and my Carène had outstanding nibs out of the box. I had the opinion that maybe more fashionable fountain pen companies could actually learn something from Rubbermaid 🤪 Though based on your experience it seems that their QA isn't flawless as well. Anyway, luckily you managed to fix it and ended up with a fantastic pen for a bargain 👍
You’re braver man than I.
Your light is very hard and direct. If you soften it for example with a soft box or even bed sheet, that could help reduce the hard reflection and enable seeing more detail. Maybe it helps for future content. Beautiful pen.
I sometimes wonder what your pen sources think if they watch your videos, and realize that the pen they thought was trash has, with some careful love, attention, and detail, become a stellar attraction 🎉. Not that I could do the magic you perform....
No different than someone fixing up a car, piece of furniture, etc. Just takes some practice, time, and dedication.
Now that is a really beautiful pen!
What a contrast to the orange abomination a cobble of videos ago...
Now Sir Doodlebud thats a good video of a beautiful pen.... no Sir it was the pen I called beautiful. 😉
Your local pen klub?!? Now why don't you tell something about that?
Her in Denmark are there no pen clubs (that I know of anyway) we have a Facebook group but unfortunately there are not that many active members 😢
And absolutely no pen shows to go to.
Really good video keep'em coming.
I've always liked the Waterman Carene in both fountain pens and ballpoints. It has a brass body, which gives it a nice heft without being too heavy. The design is unique and now iconic. Waterman Carene medium nibs write on the fat side and lay down a a nice wet line. The Carene used to be available in quite a few different finishes, most of which are no longer produced. The Carene also comes in a Deluxe model with a variety of metal caps.
Recently I saw an older, discontinued Carene Deluxe in emerald green with a textured gold cap - absolutely gorgeous! I have two Carenes, the Black Sea (black and silver) and another in Glossy Red. I like the new Carene l'essence du bleu, but I do really want to get ahold of that Carene Deluxe in emerald green and gold cap! Have fun with your new purchase!"
I think I know the model you're talking about, gorgeous! Some of the older cap stylings looks so nice with the pen
I had problems with every inlaid nib, this one included. Mine doesn’t hold ink and will just drip back into bottle right after inking. Love the green and gold combo though.
Oh wow that sucks! Must be something wrong with how the nib/feed are sitting inside the section. Sounds like the ink is bypassing the feed and just coming straight out.
I love my Carene. My first fountain pen. I collected only ballpoint before. The Carene was just too beautiful in the fountain pen version, had to switch.
That's a great first pen!
Thanks for this video, I'd love to find a beautiful Carene! In fact I bought 2 Pelikan M200 (the brown and the green models) for almost half their price (got them for around 50-60€ each), and they were like new! But their nibs where awfully scratchy... I worked on their nib and they are now excellent writers 😁
But I did this operation on steel nibs, not sure I would dare to do the same on gold nibs!
Are they not "trickier" to work with (more fragile than steel nibs? 🤔
Not tricker really. Just don;t need to use as much force to make the adjustments. But I've done it many times so for me I don;t really get any more anxious working on a gold nib vs steel
@@Doodlebud thank you for the feedback 👍
I saw one on Ebay with a low bid on it. I put a bid of only £60 on it as I already had one and was amazed when my bid won it. When it arrived it was almost mint and wrote better than my original Carene.
OMG that's an amazing find!
Similar to an e95s in black, when the pen is extended out. Are Carene's known to be dry nib writers? I've read other reviews online and on RUclips that have had issues with it being a dry, or a hard starter.
You have every right to feel chuffed about adjusting the nib to fix the flow. I think I might have hoped that lots of use would have done the same job over a longer time.
You doodle "Azure Noir" a fair bit in the writing but surely not ....is it "Jade Nior"?
That was Jade Noir I used to write that. I just like writing Azure Noir as it has some strokes that seems to catch things when I nib is off. I don't mind if a 2nd hand pen needs some tuning. I got a great pen for a great price in a color that is very difficult to find. 20-30 min of getting it just the way I like it for me is something I sort of enjoy doing. Especially when you consider I'll have the pen for years, decades, or a lifetime
I have a shimmering amber version, got it off amazon for 120cad/~92usd back in 2020. was always a little scratchy and finally got a loupe a week ago and saw that the tines are slightly misaligned, tried to bend them into place but they won't budge, too stiff. Any recommendations for nibmeisters to fix it up?
All depends on your location. Just google Nibmeister and you can find one around your location. I have personally used Mark Bacas & Josh Lax for 2 seperate pens and both turned out great
thanks for the recommendations! ill look into them.@@Doodlebud
Worth acknowledgment at least, that learning a few principles of basic repairs and tuning on just about anything can set you up to save MONUMENTAL amounts of money in life in general. Either you can learn which deals are really STEALS with just a small investment of "elbow grease and sweat equity" or you can (at the very least) learn the deals that sound and look great on paper but spiral hopelessly out of control... such that you're "already in too deep to back out" before you realize you're in any kind of trouble.
Stands to reason, fountain pens would be another of the things that follows that trend. It IS a handsome looking pen, and I'm glad you've only grown to appreciate it more for the time and patience to tune it in and play... as it were.
Reminds ME (though just how my brain "works") of the last 3 or 4 computers and more specifically LAPTOPS, I've picked up in the collection. I don't think I've spent more than $100 (US) on a computer in the last 25 years... not even ONCE! It's not because I'm some kind of geeky genius, either. Computers (just for instance) are 100% MODULAR construction. There really isn't anything you can't replace with a screwdriver and a pair of needlenose pliers... AND 99 out of 100 computers "gone bad" are something dubiously small. Bought a laptop about 4 years ago, less than a year old, $25... WHY? Fan... That's right, the fan had quit. I know why (probably) too. The gal who had it just LOVED the funny sound they make when you BLAST keyboard cleaner through them... Don't do that (btw)... It's not good. Instead, to clean out the fan with keyboard cleaner, PUT A Q-TIP or bamboo skewer or just ANYTHING like that through the fan blades... and THEN blast away.
SO I unscrewed the panel, took out the fan, and for $10 got a new fan from Ebay... and later someone came by and ABSOLUTELY HAD to have that laptop... I warned I needed to replace it, and it probably wasn't worth the full retail... BUT no, they bought it anyways... FULL retail. Which obviously did NOT go to the next one I bought under similar circumstances...
Point is, wherever you take up a little interest to fix things rather than chuck 'em, it WILL save you. It'll save you short term, long term, and even MAKE money from time to time. However far you take that is up to YOU... BUT at the very least, you can limp some older things along to the degree that you can eventually afford to buy the upgrade... or even... limp along until the upgrade ACTUALLY DOES make sense for you. NOT everything is 100% more efficient or necessarily better JUST because someone says so to sell you something.
IN ANY CASE... my tangentials aside... It's a nice pen... and ALWAYS cool to see and share your new shiny toys! ;o)
Yup just like being able to change a tire on a car. You need to know how to swap an engine, but the basics can help a bunch
damn that green is nice
Looks even better in person, camera doesn't do it justice
Every single review i have seen of the p36 with a bock nib has mentioned the nib needed work to make it write decently. Meanwhile the asvine version nib seems to fare far better.
I kind of regret getting the broad bock nib now (on its way to me from china)
I might also get a v126 vacuum filler, the value proposition is excellent
I got one with silver wavy finish from massdrop
Those ones look so nice!
I remove the nib of my Carene with a small strip of Scotch tape. First I dry the nib, then stick the tape on top it and pull straight out. Comes off very easily.
Oh nice! Just like a Lamy Safari thanks for the info
@@Doodlebud Except that glue is involved in the process.
It is likely that you removing the nib will require you to glue the nib back on, as it was not made to be friction fit like a LAMY nib.
How good is this company I am tempted in getting one next month…which one would you recommend?
Waterman is a very reputable company, one of the most influential, and arguable the creator of the modern day fountain pen. What pen feels comfortable to you, a thin pen or a thicker pen?
@@ironmic9244 I like the Parker Jotter as much as I like my TWSBI so I don’t discriminate
Check out the ‘ Inkquiring minds’ solution to this problem patented as ‘ Doug’s six strokes to inky happiness’. Essentially drawing the pen down hard on papers six times . Doug tried the solution with a feeler gauge but discovered using six downward strokes as better and safer .
Yup that doest work, but only if it needs just a little opening. It can introduce issues with the nib seperating from the feed a bit or putting stress in the section/housing depending on how the pen is built. Several ways to fix the same issue just need to know when to use the right method for a given situation
I had the very same issue with my waterman expert, but using your videos I tuned it perfectly and now I love it!
Great to hear my vids have helped you fix up your pen. Good job on getting it writing just the way you like it!
Would love to have this in red or burgundy
They carry the marine amber which is a burgundy one at Goldspot Pens. Not as many retailers carry waterman anymore.
goldspot.com/products/waterman-carene-fountain-pen-in-marine-amber-18k-gold?aff=5
Hi Doodlebud,
I'm trying to choose between the Expert and Carene fountain pen currently, as a present for myself for finishing a project. I'm finding it really hard choosing between the two...haven't found a shop where I can see, feel, touch and try them yet so its all online viewing and reviews which is far from ideal. I only currently have a Waterman Hemisphere so this'll be an upgrade.
I wanted to ask how you'd compare both, as you have no doubt used them a fair amoutn. What have you noticed? Feel, writing performance, and any other parameters you can comment on to help me decide. Is the Carene noticably 'better' or the next level up from the Expert?
Thanks!
Thats a tough one. Both are great, of course the Caren costs more and has the gold inlay nib which is beautiful. I do prefer my Carene over the Expert. The only thing that happens the very odd time is a touch of ink comes out of the filler hole on the underside of the grip. It especially did it with one ink I had in the pen. But since I switched the ink it hasnt happened since. But the color of the Carene I picked up is just so lovely. Timeless classy looking pen
Hi @@Doodlebud , thats good to hear so maybe I can't go too wrong with either. One thing I noticed that keeps cropping up in written reviews for the Carene is that the nib is described 'like a nail' and has 'some feedback'. What does that mean and is that considered important how hard/flexible(?) the nib is or is that seen as a negative in the world of fountain pens? I'm guessing its to do with the nib being part of the main body rather than protruding out like a 'normal' one. I'm not an expert by any means so just trying to understand what some of these terms mean.
For colour choice I think it would be the L'essence de blue for both, I like the pattern. You wouldn't say one writes better than the other then?
And, is choosing between a medium and fine nib only something you can determine by trying them out? Only ever had medium but that fine you're using looks quite nice and less thin that I thought!
Many thanks
@@AM4N18 the nib on the Carene has a firm feeling to it. When they say it feels like a nail it doesn't mean like dragging a nail across the page. It more has to do with it's a firm nib which doesn't have any bounce or give to it. I agree with that. It is smooth but does have feedback. As far as nib width it all depends what you're looking for and how you plan to use it. For some pens I pick a different nib point size depending upon how I plan to use that pen. I did a video comparing a bunch of nib sizes to help with that.
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@@Doodlebud Thanks for the advice, I will check that video out.
I learnt a bit about nib tuning from your Carene video, I had no idea that was a thing. My Hemisphere has never worked since day 1, very scratchy and there is always a skip when starting a word. I had relegated it to being a bad pen but I now wonder whether a bit of tuning from a professional might be sort that out after all.
where do you generally buy used pens from?
All sorts of places. Ebay, reddit, instagram, facebook, auctions, etc. I'm planning to do a video on it
@@Doodlebud Thanks and yes, a video would be great.
I have an old Carene and it writes terribly. Unfortunately getting the nibs replaced on both of my old gold nib pens is highly above my budget and there are no "nibmeisters" here, so I'm not sure if I should sell them or keep them in case of marrying a 95 year old rich lady 😂
I've sent a few pens off in the mail to get them worked on by Nibmeisters. They don't have to be local. Im in Canada and sent my pens off to the USA
Hey Doodlebud, was it you that said smoothing out a nib using figure 8s was not a good idea?
You have to do it properly. Just doing figures 8s holding the pen in the same orientation will make a flat spot on the tipping and broaden the nib. Have to sort of rotate the pen a bit as you do it to ensure you keep the tipping ball a ball. I should maybe do a video on that
@@Doodlebud Thanks. Yes, do a video. I get what you're saying.
Which one would you choose for a student: Carene or Lamy 2000?
They are both great pens so just depends what someone likes. For example some don't like the grip section on the Lamy 2000 some love it. Best thing would be to try them both at a store if you can
I have a Carène. Never loved it. Always inky fingers. And I post my pens. This one will get scratched where the cap meets the body. A ring of wear on the cap.
And the nib is a nail. Very stiff.
I got it as a present from my grandmother when I graduated for MSc, so it does have sentimental value. Then I dropped it nib down. The nib came off. A new section/nib combo costs €100 and that's too much for me as I don't like the pen.
hi slightly off topic but could you review the Gravitas Vac Filler if you could get your hands on one? I have searched youtube for a review and can't find much. Thanks.
If I get my hands on one I'll be sure to give it a very thorough walk through 👍
Where do you find these flawed pens that you can fix up?
I search all over. I don't always know if there's a flaw or not. But if there is I'll fix it. I'm planning to do a video on where I find pens
Love it but maybe it should be called the Waterman Watermellon
I've never tried to "tune" a pen before, but my Carene has that dreaded "sweet spot."
I will comment on your comments about the Lamy 2000. I always carry my Lamy 2000, because no matter it stays in my pen holder, it always writes and writes well. I even lost one, and I immediately bought another. It had a fine nib, while my first had been a medium nib. I did discover that I slightly rotate my pen, so the “F” nib did have a maddening “sweet spot” probably related to my writing style. Nevertheless, I get really upset with the critics. This pen is the best everyday carry for a professional who wants to write with his pen than any pen ever designed. My Montblanc 149 always collects ink in the cap, and I was forever getting ink on my fingers. (Not cool in a business meeting or court room). I asked a German architect writing with a Montblanc 149 what I could do. He said, “Oh, there’s nothing you can do to stop that. You just have to have a cloth with you to wipe away the ink. I have many other complaints about the 149 but it was a gift from an alumn, so I keep it. It will likely be one of several pens I may sell to buy what I think will be my last Grail pen. Look at the Lamy 2000: designed with a hooded nib and fills in such a way that any ink is easily wiped away (completely), it stays wet all the time, writes every time. It is not ostentatious; it is the pen someone needs WHO ACTUALLY WRITES IN THE COURTROOM or CONFERENCE ROOM. I know it is not a status symbol (which is the comment I get from lawyers working on Wall Street or in other high prestige areas. They could care less about anything except the snowflake at the top. Genius was the engineering of the LAMY.
Any tips on where I could find a green one
Only thing I can say is patience. Tooke a while to find one for sale in the condition that I wanted at the price I was looking for. Jsut have to look around and be patient
I have this pen in Abyss Blue and I want to shoot it into the Sun. The writing experience is just abysmal (skipping, hard starts, flow issues, plus the nib is poorly affixed and it feels like I may damage it if I start tinkering). A total Nope Pen for me.
Sounds like it's in need of some nib tuning
@@Doodlebud It would be an option but one of the "tails" of the nib that affix it to the section is not embedded properly and has slight spring to it. I risk damaging the nib entirely.
@@Doodlebud So I tinkered with it. It took me over a week to do this properly. The flow issues are mostly resolved, but somehow the nib is now slightly scratchy (it wasn't the smoothest to begin with). Also the nib did not come off but the left "tail" of the nib is still wonky and ink tends to collect under it. The writing is not as smooth as I hoped for. Hard to believe this is an 18k nib. I need to see a nibmeister/pendoctor to fix this.
This one or e95s?
I like my vintage pilot elite over the new e95s. Between my elite and this one.... Tough call.
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I’m jealous please help me find one
half an houur flossing, yikes. beautiful pen clearly worth it.
Especially if you keep a pen for decades. The little time spent is worth it.
Very pretty green but somehow i just can't unsee how the nib reminds me of gold tipped french nails 😅