What!!! So Waller is mad at Heroes because her husband decided to go kill the man who un alived her daughter. She's not angry at the crooked politician or the man who destroyed her life. No the heroes. That makes since I guess.
I think that's the point, her logic is meant to be delusional, she is meant to be the other side if batman (similar to joker) she took a different route to put the blame on something, not on corruption but on vigilantes, only cos she can't see passed being a vigilante killed her husband In other words she is just crazy and delusional
I like this story. Is it great, no. Good, yes... I can see why she would hate vigilantes. I would be mad if my partner died while avenging the rape of My daughter only to be deemed equally criminal, while at the same time watching the city hail Batman for almost the same thing (he don't kill perps). That would make Me bitter, if I were a lesser mind. Amanda seems to have become bitter about it, rather than seeing the fault in it. Probably because She is still upset about her own losses. That is perfectly understandable to Me and is interesting because, like U say, it seems like she would have championed vigilantes. I feel like that would be the "comic way to go", in other words, expected. This is kinda unexpected. Not all together hyper dynamic, but it fits with a woman's rage when Her family is attacked. I think Absolute Power has been great. As was house of Brainiac. That just suffered from being to short and deserved a better a conclusion. Then again, these are just My opinions. Happy Hunting y'all
Villains blame others and targets the wrong people for their hurt. Jealousy and twisted revenge motivates villains like Luther. Hate that Amanda is taken this route.
I agree with you. It doesn’t make sense! I like her origin story more in My Adventures with Superman. She was a badazz military soldier, when her platoon were killed by aliens. It would be cooler if it was a Men in Black like group that knew about the aliens and never let them now of the impending doom. You’re welcome DC.
She seems more like someone who would side with The Authority rather than the Justice League. She doesn't think people like Batman are effective enough.
Bruce and Amanda mirror each others motivations to protecting the public from metahumans and dangerous criminals who possess the intellect and weapons of mass violence. Two sides of the same coin when it comes to contingency planning and strategic foresight within the DC universe. The emphasis on preparation and gathering intelligence to help outmaneuvering their adversaries.
Something I can say about this comic is Waller manipulating Marvin Collins to make sure that he’ll win the election after learning the truth about him and that her origins are lined up with Bruce Wayne witnessing his parents’ death by Joe Chill in 1939 and finding Joe Chill as Batman in 1955. Also, since Waller is five to nine years older than Bruce, this means that she was 13 to 17 years old when Joe Chill murdered Thomas and Martha Wayne and 29 to 33 years old when Bruce found Chill, making her 69 to 73 years old (but looks 60 to 64) in 2024. To be honest, I prefer Waller’s original origin and backstory because it’s simple and effective for her instead of all of this, and it’s likely that the next two issues will be worst than this issue. That’s all I have to say for this comic.
Real world job titles could easily be applied for an action/suspense/drama. They need to push to make Amanda less of a villain on a Dr Doom level. She’s extremely relatable. 8:44 I was typing right here & you see what needs to be added. Thank you for the drops.
I’ve never really understood Waller, her goal is to get rid of of meta’s but if that happens what’s next when Darkseid or any other of the fifty million off world threats pull up
Okay but where is the part where everything falls apart for her and all the super heroes take turns kicking her in a circle for the horrible stuff she's constantly gotten away with.
This issue seems that the police and officials do not care about the case experienced by Amanda Waller. Because her husband took his own action for the death of his daughter and Amanda Waller hated her husband's actions. Actually, Amanda Waller just wants to ask for justice in the case that happened to her husband and daughter. But with the police and officials not caring about her, that's what makes Amanda Waller look Paranoid and take action on her own.
I thought her origin would be something like when she was a little girl she lost one of her family members in midst of a battle between superman and zod
@@chaneladriana6829 I honestly thought they was gonna say the evil white man murdered her family because that’s all they do is portray us as bad all the time and I literally thought that’s where they would go some racism side to it because of course racism everything when you’re black, of course you’re always discriminated against according to the media lol they don’t have black privilege or anything which they so clearly do but nobody wants to admit
Her husband was murdered when he took the law into his hands, but in Walker's eyes candyman was a man of resources. He did foul acts but, he was covered by the powerful and influential. If counselmen can have skeletons in there closet so can metas
So Waller has an issue with vigilantes but, has no issue with Darkseid and General Zod invading Earth. The villains don’t have to worry about an Amazo coming after them. Lol
Unless I’m mistaken, didn’t Superman accidentally brought Darkseid to his doorstep because of his reputation? I don’t remember if he’s to blame or intergang
Absolute Power is a great story, but in this issue I don't understand why they always try to explain the behavior of the characters through traumatic events. It's like justifying the actions of a person like Waller, sick with power, and here we see her more maternal. They are elections now in the US, I hope they don't wear us readers down with Republican or Democratic politics, I just want to follow a good story. Amanda Waller is a great character because in reality we know that neither Superman nor Batman exist, but there are many Wallers, the United States secret service that tries to intervene around the world.
Dan picture if your loved one avendged the death of your children in an act of vigilantism and the commissioner deemed him a criminal. Yet these caped crusaders acting as vigilanties is deemed a hero and justified by the very person that called your loved one a criminal. She wants the hero's to be treated in the same light as her husband with the same driving force that drives batman to avenge his parents.
So another crisis that was started indirectly by Batman. This is like the 4th big crisis that he unintencionally starts something bad. I am starting to think he is the root of all evil in DC.
They both have a lot in common but at least Batman learned from his mistakes and refocused his efforts towards his family and love interest and his potential future daughter. Waller, on the other hand can’t accept Batman’s trust in his superhero friends especially powerhouses like Superman who could always become influenced by rage and become a weapon like he did in the last 20 years in the comics. Batman can reform anti heroes and trust Harley, White rabbit, Catwoman’s team, and Ivy. Waller, on the other hand would decide to target people close to the heroes including ex villains and new heroes like Dreamer, Harley, etc and turn them into assets rather they like it or not to obtain the ability to control the worlds monopoly and metahumans better than Batman.
I don’t get going after the ppl who try to stop the evil she experienced. But hey I’m not writing it. It I onow she’ll get hers once falisafe and amazo turn on her lol.
Failsafe is incredibly loyal to Waller. They both share the same goals but her Amazos are beginning to have human traits that might be their downfall. Brianiac Queen is definitely going to dominate everybody
After seeing what Superman was capable of in many adaptions including My adventures with Superman, I understand why she and Batman both went behind their scenes to acquire the resources to neutralize the Justice League should they be under the influence of hypnosis or powerful forces
A sob story that the authors quickly bail on. Still doesn't explain all of the stories where she acts like a vigilante & tyrant. Completely does not explain her actions on Earth 3 or all the murders she committed.
We can have both,that's what make comics interesring,they fight all kinds of threats (street level,cosmic bring,aliens,mutants, killer robots,magical beings,govorment,secret societies etc..)
Yea, I don't like it when stories mirror real world events or narratives. I mean it's been going on since the 60s, but In these crazy times , we need comics to help us escape this chaotic realm of reality.
I feel like a better version of her origin could have been a hero who accidentally killed her daughter trying to protect her from candy man.. so her views of heroes is that they do more harm than good .. idk something like that
Those two have been at odds with each other since the establishment of the Task Force X and Justice league unlimited. Two sides of the same coin and polar opposites. Joker and Batman represent order and chaos. Amanda Waller’s motivations mirrors Bruce’s motivations in Snyder’s Batman v Superman.
I think it's more about the corruption. She has seen it since the beginning people being on the payroll of criminals\crime lords, I think she wants absolute control. Politicians who have allowed superheroes act without limits. Waller has always been about controlling everything and everyone around her.
but her husband was criminalized possibly due to race. That Batman, as a rich white male, is permitted again and again to do what her husband did… yet not be held in the same regard as her courageous husband. Most superheroes don’t look like her or those in the hood. What most don’t see is “exceptionalism” that were someone who looked more like her or her husband… wouldn’t be treated the same fashion. Remember there’s no Luke Cage in DC, no Ororo Monroe, or T’Challa… only a character like Cyborg or “Black” Lightning. Representation matters, so maybe that’s why many of you don’t grasp the origin story. Jim Gordon is a staunch hypocrite on the best days. And a rich boy in a bat suit could have done so much more with this wealth than beat down on poor people.
I get that you’re having trouble reconciling. What’s going on with her origin. but try putting yourself in the shoes of a black woman in America. The problem is always going to be the system. So her resolution was to take over the system. There, you go also along the way apparently should became a true believer. And as a true believer, her responsibility is to protect the country from all threats foreign and domestic. And that’s how we ended up with the Amanda Waller today.
I don’t like it that they got this heavyset black woman being able to dominate all these superheroes and I know she’s been around since the 80s but come on now this she never had that kind of power back then and now she’s just superior to everybody out smarting everybody come on now they’re doing that as this is a clearly political correct trying to more race
Nah it's not a race thing. Or politically correct. Random characters always get buffed for the sake of a story. I don't like that it's waller but that doesn't make it politically correct.
@@comicbreakdown you could be right I'm just so down on everything anymore with this political correctness and this race swapping and always making minorities look superior to whites and everything but you could be right maybe it's not that this time I know she's been around forever t but I hope this whole thing leads to a reboot or gets rid of the multiverse and Omniverse I can't stand it I want the post crisis DC universe back a version of that one version of the characters I know they're doing that ultimate thing but else worlds could solve everything and you don't need a multiverse it's like Marvel's what if I just hate the multiverse I grew up with the post crisis DC universe where there was one version of each character and then you had elseworlds but that's another tangent I went off on but I'm hoping this event leads to that
@@dakingbey I don’t give a damn what it looks like. I’m sick of this left-wing nonsense, destroying my great country and destroying western civilization. I’m a very big fan of western civilization in history and I’m sick and tired of to even go off track here all of our history of us, European people being made out to be horrible. When literally we built the entire world that would be nothing without us, but we’re portrayed as the bad guys and everything. That’s why I say what I say and how they portray, blacks and people like that as great all the time Noble when anybody that knows them in the real world knows that’s not the case but I just live in reality buddy. I’m allowed my opinion. Nothing racist about it. A lot of people agree with me. Let’s put it that
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What!!! So Waller is mad at Heroes because her husband decided to go kill the man who un alived her daughter. She's not angry at the crooked politician or the man who destroyed her life. No the heroes. That makes since I guess.
I think that's the point, her logic is meant to be delusional, she is meant to be the other side if batman (similar to joker) she took a different route to put the blame on something, not on corruption but on vigilantes, only cos she can't see passed being a vigilante killed her husband
In other words she is just crazy and delusional
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Having a sad backstory is not a justification for doing bad and/or horrible things to people.
I sympathize with her, but I can't forgive her.
I dont think it was meant to be justification i think it was supposed to give us understanding for why she hates superheroes
@@trevor8726 Makes sense
So all her kids are dead??
This is a horrible origin story. Waller herself is a criminal
Wait a damn minute!..... Did DC confirm Candyman is real in the DC Universe?!!! The jacket, color scheme pf the panel....hold up what
Who's candyman?
@@hexshots1045 90s Horror Icon played by Tony Todd who also voices Venom in Marvel's Spiderman 2
A man who sells candy
@@chaneladriana6829and a man who sells drug
@@hexshots1045 he loves bees too xD
I like this story. Is it great, no. Good, yes... I can see why she would hate vigilantes.
I would be mad if my partner died while avenging the rape of My daughter only to be deemed equally criminal, while at the same time watching the city hail Batman for almost the same thing (he don't kill perps).
That would make Me bitter, if I were a lesser mind. Amanda seems to have become bitter about it, rather than seeing the fault in it. Probably because She is still upset about her own losses.
That is perfectly understandable to Me and is interesting because, like U say, it seems like she would have championed vigilantes.
I feel like that would be the "comic way to go", in other words, expected. This is kinda unexpected. Not all together hyper dynamic, but it fits with a woman's rage when Her family is attacked.
I think Absolute Power has been great. As was house of Brainiac. That just suffered from being to short and deserved a better a conclusion.
Then again, these are just My opinions.
Happy Hunting y'all
Villains blame others and targets the wrong people for their hurt. Jealousy and twisted revenge motivates villains like Luther. Hate that Amanda is taken this route.
I think Amanda Waller is villain, but unlike Luthor her motives actually make sense.
I agree with you. It doesn’t make sense! I like her origin story more in My Adventures with Superman. She was a badazz military soldier, when her platoon were killed by aliens. It would be cooler if it was a Men in Black like group that knew about the aliens and never let them now of the impending doom. You’re welcome DC.
You're a hundred percent correct in your assumptions. This back story doesn't make any sense.
@@EnemeeXerro not at all
Of course we needed a comic talking about wallers origin story because she is some 6th dimensional cosmic being like prepetua
She seems more like someone who would side with The Authority rather than the Justice League. She doesn't think people like Batman are effective enough.
Bruce and Amanda mirror each others motivations to protecting the public from metahumans and dangerous criminals who possess the intellect and weapons of mass violence. Two sides of the same coin when it comes to contingency planning and strategic foresight within the DC universe. The emphasis on preparation and gathering intelligence to help outmaneuvering their adversaries.
Something I can say about this comic is Waller manipulating Marvin Collins to make sure that he’ll win the election after learning the truth about him and that her origins are lined up with Bruce Wayne witnessing his parents’ death by Joe Chill in 1939 and finding Joe Chill as Batman in 1955. Also, since Waller is five to nine years older than Bruce, this means that she was 13 to 17 years old when Joe Chill murdered Thomas and Martha Wayne and 29 to 33 years old when Bruce found Chill, making her 69 to 73 years old (but looks 60 to 64) in 2024. To be honest, I prefer Waller’s original origin and backstory because it’s simple and effective for her instead of all of this, and it’s likely that the next two issues will be worst than this issue. That’s all I have to say for this comic.
Cant wait for the waller tv series amanda is positive role model 😂 she even keeps villans and heros in line
Real world job titles could easily be applied for an action/suspense/drama. They need to push to make Amanda less of a villain on a Dr Doom level. She’s extremely relatable.
8:44 I was typing right here & you see what needs to be added. Thank you for the drops.
She's not relatable at all. Her entire character sucks. It makes 0 sense
I agree, she’s very relatable.
I’ve never really understood Waller, her goal is to get rid of of meta’s but if that happens what’s next when Darkseid or any other of the fifty million off world threats pull up
She believes that her Amazos and perhaps her Earth 3 justice league with the right equipment.
Okay but where is the part where everything falls apart for her and all the super heroes take turns kicking her in a circle for the horrible stuff she's constantly gotten away with.
This issue seems that the police and officials do not care about the case experienced by Amanda Waller. Because her husband took his own action for the death of his daughter and Amanda Waller hated her husband's actions. Actually, Amanda Waller just wants to ask for justice in the case that happened to her husband and daughter. But with the police and officials not caring about her, that's what makes Amanda Waller look Paranoid and take action on her own.
I agree she should have sided with them seeing as her daughter was averaged by one
I thought her origin would be something like when she was a little girl she lost one of her family members in midst of a battle between superman and zod
@@chaneladriana6829 I honestly thought they was gonna say the evil white man murdered her family because that’s all they do is portray us as bad all the time and I literally thought that’s where they would go some racism side to it because of course racism everything when you’re black, of course you’re always discriminated against according to the media lol they don’t have black privilege or anything which they so clearly do but nobody wants to admit
J.Jonah Jameson has a better origin than this Amanda Waller on why he hates vigilante.
They could have kept the New 52 waller origins
Isn't that where she was part of team 7
@@bashengatheblackmanta7003 yes
Or the Post Crisis origin.
Her husband was murdered when he took the law into his hands, but in Walker's eyes candyman was a man of resources. He did foul acts but, he was covered by the powerful and influential. If counselmen can have skeletons in there closet so can metas
Still stupid. This whole arc is dumb. Never liked the whole failsafe/zer arc either
Her motivation is similar to Bruce’s motivation to take out Clark after his ordeal with General Zod in the Snyder film.
So Waller has an issue with vigilantes but, has no issue with Darkseid and General Zod invading Earth. The villains don’t have to worry about an Amazo coming after them. Lol
Unless I’m mistaken, didn’t Superman accidentally brought Darkseid to his doorstep because of his reputation? I don’t remember if he’s to blame or intergang
Absolute Power is a great story, but in this issue I don't understand why they always try to explain the behavior of the characters through traumatic events. It's like justifying the actions of a person like Waller, sick with power, and here we see her more maternal. They are elections now in the US, I hope they don't wear us readers down with Republican or Democratic politics, I just want to follow a good story. Amanda Waller is a great character because in reality we know that neither Superman nor Batman exist, but there are many Wallers, the United States secret service that tries to intervene around the world.
Dan picture if your loved one avendged the death of your children in an act of vigilantism and the commissioner deemed him a criminal. Yet these caped crusaders acting as vigilanties is deemed a hero and justified by the very person that called your loved one a criminal. She wants the hero's to be treated in the same light as her husband with the same driving force that drives batman to avenge his parents.
7:57 i know right
My thoughts are she wanted to be saved and nobody saved her so now she like fucc yall then
So another crisis that was started indirectly by Batman. This is like the 4th big crisis that he unintencionally starts something bad. I am starting to think he is the root of all evil in DC.
They both have a lot in common but at least Batman learned from his mistakes and refocused his efforts towards his family and love interest and his potential future daughter. Waller, on the other hand can’t accept Batman’s trust in his superhero friends especially powerhouses like Superman who could always become influenced by rage and become a weapon like he did in the last 20 years in the comics. Batman can reform anti heroes and trust Harley, White rabbit, Catwoman’s team, and Ivy. Waller, on the other hand would decide to target people close to the heroes including ex villains and new heroes like Dreamer, Harley, etc and turn them into assets rather they like it or not to obtain the ability to control the worlds monopoly and metahumans better than Batman.
She is one of the characters in the comics I know little of
Good points. I 100 % agree.
I love the name change lol better then Joe chill joe kill
I liked her other origin story where she was former military and worked her way through there with the government
I don’t get going after the ppl who try to stop the evil she experienced. But hey I’m not writing it. It I onow she’ll get hers once falisafe and amazo turn on her lol.
Failsafe is incredibly loyal to Waller. They both share the same goals but her Amazos are beginning to have human traits that might be their downfall. Brianiac Queen is definitely going to dominate everybody
I want more, the logic is meant to be mind boggling.
Excellent issue but I cannot sympathies amanda waller this doesn't give you the right to take out all metahumans
After seeing what Superman was capable of in many adaptions including My adventures with Superman, I understand why she and Batman both went behind their scenes to acquire the resources to neutralize the Justice League should they be under the influence of hypnosis or powerful forces
So all this time we didn't an Amanda Waller origin story? OK, this doesn't mean I sympathize with her.
A sob story that the authors quickly bail on.
Still doesn't explain all of the stories where she acts like a vigilante & tyrant. Completely does not explain her actions on Earth 3 or all the murders she committed.
Wasn't there a comic where she was said to have been part of team 7
I don’t read comics to see superheroes fighting wallers governments I read comics to see superheroes fighting universe destroying cosmic beings
We can have both,that's what make comics interesring,they fight all kinds of threats (street level,cosmic bring,aliens,mutants, killer robots,magical beings,govorment,secret societies etc..)
Yea, I don't like it when stories mirror real world events or narratives. I mean it's been going on since the 60s, but In these crazy times , we need comics to help us escape this chaotic realm of reality.
I feel like a better version of her origin could have been a hero who accidentally killed her daughter trying to protect her from candy man.. so her views of heroes is that they do more harm than good .. idk something like that
Ok this is some character development here.
Not really imo.
Her origin does feel a bit, off. I'm just surprised Amanda Waller hadn't had a Green Lantern ring show up bc she has some serious power of will.
Why do they got to have her origin connected to batman for
Those two have been at odds with each other since the establishment of the Task Force X and Justice league unlimited. Two sides of the same coin and polar opposites. Joker and Batman represent order and chaos.
Amanda Waller’s motivations mirrors Bruce’s motivations in Snyder’s Batman v Superman.
doesnt make sense to me either.
I agree, not my favorite story. But hey that's just my humble opinion.
Anyone else think she shouldve gotten a ring invite by now? 😂
Amanda Waller is not a villain.
No she's the devil lol
@@comicbreakdown She's a hero
Because her husband went to be a vigilante got arested and blamed for it batman does it its ok nah its not
I think it's more about the corruption. She has seen it since the beginning people being on the payroll of criminals\crime lords, I think she wants absolute control. Politicians who have allowed superheroes act without limits. Waller has always been about controlling everything and everyone around her.
About damn time.👍🏿
Joe chill is wallers husband
Nothing will make her interesting & DC needs to ditch her character.
James Gunn is making a show about her, that's why she's getting pushed
@@Hello-bi1pm Oh geez, so they're expanding her character...I'm so bored of her :/
They couldn't come up with a better, original name?
but her husband was criminalized possibly due to race. That Batman, as a rich white male, is permitted again and again to do what her husband did… yet not be held in the same regard as her courageous husband. Most superheroes don’t look like her or those in the hood. What most don’t see is “exceptionalism” that were someone who looked more like her or her husband… wouldn’t be treated the same fashion. Remember there’s no Luke Cage in DC, no Ororo Monroe, or T’Challa… only a character like Cyborg or “Black” Lightning. Representation matters, so maybe that’s why many of you don’t grasp the origin story. Jim Gordon is a staunch hypocrite on the best days. And a rich boy in a bat suit could have done so much more with this wealth than beat down on poor people.
candy man?????
Like that's literally Candyman so he's a DCU character now?
Also this story is sad as hell and a cool duality to Waller and Bruce
Glad I didn't buy the issue.... I thought her origin story should be better. Kinda ruins the whole Absolute Power story arch for me...
Political science major and hates the police? Sounds familiar 😂
I get that you’re having trouble reconciling. What’s going on with her origin. but try putting yourself in the shoes of a black woman in America. The problem is always going to be the system. So her resolution was to take over the system. There, you go also along the way apparently should became a true believer. And as a true believer, her responsibility is to protect the country from all threats foreign and domestic. And that’s how we ended up with the Amanda Waller today.
Except is less about the system and more about vigilantes
Waller its french for hater... also thats a weak AF reason
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Meh. I am not impressed. It is just,...Meh. Amanda Waller is just a weirdly written character.
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I don’t like it that they got this heavyset black woman being able to dominate all these superheroes and I know she’s been around since the 80s but come on now this she never had that kind of power back then and now she’s just superior to everybody out smarting everybody come on now they’re doing that as this is a clearly political correct trying to more race
Amanda Waller always hates superheroes
Nah it's not a race thing. Or politically correct. Random characters always get buffed for the sake of a story. I don't like that it's waller but that doesn't make it politically correct.
@@comicbreakdown you could be right I'm just so down on everything anymore with this political correctness and this race swapping and always making minorities look superior to whites and everything but you could be right maybe it's not that this time I know she's been around forever t but I hope this whole thing leads to a reboot or gets rid of the multiverse and Omniverse I can't stand it I want the post crisis DC universe back a version of that one version of the characters I know they're doing that ultimate thing but else worlds could solve everything and you don't need a multiverse it's like Marvel's what if I just hate the multiverse I grew up with the post crisis DC universe where there was one version of each character and then you had elseworlds but that's another tangent I went off on but I'm hoping this event leads to that
@@BruceWayne-ri4wrthis sounds like something you should keep to yourself because it looks bad
@@dakingbey I don’t give a damn what it looks like. I’m sick of this left-wing nonsense, destroying my great country and destroying western civilization. I’m a very big fan of western civilization in history and I’m sick and tired of to even go off track here all of our history of us, European people being made out to be horrible. When literally we built the entire world that would be nothing without us, but we’re portrayed as the bad guys and everything. That’s why I say what I say and how they portray, blacks and people like that as great all the time Noble when anybody that knows them in the real world knows that’s not the case but I just live in reality buddy. I’m allowed my opinion. Nothing racist about it. A lot of people agree with me. Let’s put it that