They both know the truth, Train is the only one that is real enough to speak up on the fake bs in the game / industry. Anyone that watches rosh knows this
12:03 proof they’re all playing with fake stake money which is high rtp… look how nervous they get when Rosh says about showing transactions and leaking them all
Adin is poor, he scks at stakes ceo Eddie craven , proof 12:03 … oh oh Eddie wants to join when they’re about to escalate to show them the transactions fake proofs
Train is right. He should show his losses,he should not advertise gambling by showing that everyone can win like him. Gambling is for losing money and u should show the truth specially when u have so many followers watching ur stream.
The reason it is clear Train won this argument by a KO and exposed Rosh is if you watch Rosh's streams more recently you will see a lot more losses (sometimes 5-10 mil) at the top of his page during streaming.. so there is capitulation on that front to show actual losses. But the bigger problem is that Rosh is not using his own funds. He has a co-op account with Stake where he gets a % of the action (or small % of the losses), but not putting his own money at risk. You can even call Stake or visit the website and they will tell you how this agreement works, but it is extremely private in terms of each negotiation.
This crap is annoying. It's all for views and they called each other after and laughed about it. Of course Eddy the mysterious stake man had to be named. This crap is corny. Online gambling is rigged and fake and a scam ppl
Train" "Rosh your telling me you showing people winning all the time does not add up to more affiliates?" Rosh: " No it doesn't, it doesn't" Train: "Wuw...... WHAT?!?!?" I fucking love that train reacts like that I fucking died LOL
@@MichaelHeyra Train is the absolute shit lol He fucking kills me in this video I literally listen to this to laugh every now and then. Wish I could meet the guy.
In retrospect Roshtein did gave me the illusion that the odds of winning some money at playing slots was far bigger than in reality. He seemed to win quite often to a point, that i also wanted to try it. So i unfortunally i did buy the myth that Rostein shows, and i lost a couple of hundered bucks. And if Roshtein did show the real reality of losing money at playing slots, i would never tried it in the first place. I always thought that playing slots winning or losing was arround 50/50. But you are already very lucky, when you play even. So winning money is only about a 15% possibillity. And playing even and getting you money back, is maybe only a 30% chance.
Look at this guy, your parents told you gambling was shit. If you honestly thought gambling could give any more than a coin flip could, you're braindead! Lol 🤡
This conversation makes me respect Trainwrecks more because of his openness and honesty. Ayezee is another real one who will tell you how much money he lost chasing max spin on Power Of Merlin or Muertos
The reality is this shit is sick, because majority of streamers are not transperant about their losses or how much the bonus hunts actualy cost them. Because their streams are designed to groom people and get them hooked on gambling and by the time the people realize they've been groomed its to late. Also hate how everytime a viewer that has lost everything gets pushed to the side like hes in the wrong, for beliving what was shown to him for days on straight or just gets told to self exclude. Its sick its litteraly like getting someone hooked on heroin then tellin them just quit it bro, it just aint that simple but it is simple for them to wash their hands of the blood thats on them. Cuz everyone knows the sad truth people die due to this & this is why gambling is considered a sicknes not a addiction by many experts, but im 100% certain Karma has something coming for some of those if not all of them mfs in the near future. This is gonna end up bad in one way or another either someone who lost everything is gonna blow someones head off or regulators are gonna clap down either way I truely hope karma claps back at all the non genuine streamers that take part in this kinda shit.
Listening back to this now, since rosh has moved on and streamed on kick magically all his viewership has moved to kick… bro can barely crack 1k on twitch now while he duel streams, while train does the same thing but averages 20k minimum on twitch and if not more on kick. The numbers don’t lie LMAOOO
It's because viewers from kick are just on twitch streamnto collect and farm points which is not possible currently on kick.. Simple..he runs stream only on twitch to show the audience where he's streaming now
I have a hot take on this… I feel like train is 1000% right and the only reason people are hesitant to agree with him is because nobody is talking about the effects of gambling. Train is probably the only streamer who is actively trying to expose how much damage these streamers/stake is creating. He sees the bigger picture and just wants people to be as aware as possible
Rosh streams for 15 hours doing mostly bonus hunts and bonus buys. It’s very normal that it looks like he is winning. But the reality is that most of his streams he doesn’t break even and he goes down millions. His affiliate business is just so huge that he can easily recover those dollars.
no but train was getting at the fact that roshtein will lose $6m offstream collecting bonuses, then rosh going live and saying the bonus hunt only cost $2m, and most of the time it looks like profit to his viewers as he claims its only 2m. so it looks like hes winning so he gets more signups
It’s all fake 12:03 rosh was about to expose the stake bubble … and adin instantly oh oh I think Eddie wants to join (ceo of stake) … stake is stealing millions of players with rigged softswiss systems from Russia … and u guys think Heyde playing with own owned money ?
Aiden's chat has to be dumb, so many of them saying that Rosh is cooking Train? Train is 100% Right, facts are that Rosh never shows him hunt his bonuses, so he could spend 5 Million to get them and then tell stream it cost him 2 Million, that way he always wins his bonus hunts and ends up ahead. He does that all the time, anyone with half a brain has caught on to that. ClassyBeef does the same thing as well. Isn't it weird that Syz and Xposed end most bonus hunts in a loss because they show themselves hunting it and the actual cost? but Rosh and Classy Beef almost always end bonus hunts in profit? Rosh saying the fact that he manages to be profitable 8 out of 10 streams is because he logs off when he's up is just absurd. He jukes his stats to sell a false reality.
In the past Rosh always did his bonus hunt on stream, I'd say it took mostly 5hrs for ~100 bonuses, he also used multiple casino sites. However, what is more interesting to me is that Roshtein always said he puts his stream before his gambling addiction and that he always would miss more to stream than to gamble. Then Twitch hit with it's restriction against stake and he was gone for ~12-16 weeks or something, without telling his viewers that he will take a break, when he's about to come back and what's going on in his life, he simply disappeared. He only came back when the cashcow on kick could continue and that's no no to me. Today his twitch channel is only live, constantly running dog house on 50$ bet just to promote his kick stream. He rarely interacts with twitch and only says things like "Oh hey Twitch you still there? How's the dog house going....?". He can be mad at twitch or whatever, but he grew a community there for years... and this is how he treats it today... you could do so much more with it... it's just sad. Today I cannot watch him anymore with the joy from the past. I did not care for fakes this and that, always enjoyed the entertainment... but that's gone now, now I only see greed and that basically kills the entertainment for me.
You got to understand, rosh dont make money on slots. He makes his money on commersial. Thats his job. The rest of us play at a casino, puts money in slots and if we play long enough we get back 95 %. You cant win money on slots, its the casino who gives you winning sessions when they think you have lost enough.
It’s way more sinister than that, rosh and all these guys make majority of their money on their affiliate codes, train is making a good point that pretending you win all the time will make the people who play on your code lose more because they see you doing well
thats definitely possible considering hes getting fed basically infinite play money to play with. anyone can hit 5 max wins in a week if they uses playmoney for 15 hours a day
1:05 I love Train, I do. But that is just pure madness. Rosh has been losing as much as Train has but THEN Rosh hits 3 max win's in a few weeks. That's the difference. They both lose but only one wins it back. Train's initial stance of 2 weeks of winning and then 2 days of losing is absolute nonsense.
This is a very important conversation to have and should have just been between train and Rosh, adin isn't on nearly enough ritalin to stay focused for this conversation. Neon brought great points to the table.
Rosh is so lost in his own bullcrap that he doesnt realise how many lives are being ruined by gambling and manipulating streams to get more people to sign up....ffs...This has saved the future me a lot of money due to them exposing the bullcrap behind the scenes
Rosh so shady he acting like because he stops when he gets up that’s why he doesn’t show a loss is bs. He gambles more than anyone. Than to say showing him winning doesn’t make people want to gamble lol dude is delusional
Lol rosh saying that people See him win constantly would not make him more money through affiliation must have been the most braindead thing ive ever heard Jesus Christ 😂😂😂😂
For anyone who believes that these 2 are gambling real money on stream more than the combined play of the whole of Las vegas needs a reality check. They wagered billions on stake and have direct contact with the owner of stake. Legit yeah right.
train talked about his deal. it is enough for the IRS to arrest him and put him behind bars if he didn't pay taxes for that amount. so train for sure is playing iwth actual money. Rosh never talked about numbers so no one can approach him from the government
@@smmshoe that's the reason he moved to Canada. To avoid taxes. And my oh my you actually believe an ex gamer can wager billions of dollars on slots 😂😂😂. And by the way the so called deal with stake is bullshit. Stakes networth is 2 billion dollars. They not paying him 30 percent of their networth yearly. All what he makes from affiliates goes up his nose.
"You always stay at one slot so you lose, while my strategy is leaving and going on to the next big win so thats how im able to stay in profit 8/10 streams" Crazy thing for him to agree to lmao
portray an honest gambling session....each and every stream...otherwise you are creating more and more compulsive gamblers who believe they can win the same way that you are showing.....actually you should be arrested and jailed for falsely portraying gambling
Train has very good arguments, but Rosh also, Rosh uses his senses and often knows when to leave a slot. Train drains his whole balance on 1 or 2 (often bad) slots. Rosh is certainly not transparent enough. bonus hunts are done off stream, for what we know he could have bought them or spent 20 million getting them, but just noting down that he spent 6.5 million to get them. Rosh did not answer that question, which means he is not reflecting reality of gambling fully. I would love to have a chat with Train and explain/teach him some stuff, so he is aware of internals behind online slot playing. Like behaviour detection mode and such. There is a lot more behind slot than so called RNG and RTP. If you really understand those mechanics It will make world of difference. I have sent train email years ago offering some free advise so he understand the internals behind online slots and his gameplay can be improvement. I am really feeling very sorry for Train every time he streams I hope he wins big, but it does not happen often. If anyone read this and knows train, he can message me. He/you guys really need some more insights. I need nothing from anyone, but am offering free advise.
@@mauinokaoi8747they’re transparent you fkin moron, say how much they’re down, showed all sorts of receipts when he exposed roshtein. Gave millions to his com (including me). You’re a freak
@@ozzymertrain was well established before his gambling career and doesn’t have an affiliate code. Of course ultimately we never know but I would put a lot of money on train being real. He’s a crazy dude
7:10 Rosh just called himself a good gambler. You can't be a good gambler when you gamble 24/7. You lose, end of story. You can gamble for 5 minutes, get lucky and never look back. If you gamble daily, you will fucking lose
rosh always had bots because of his store and points system, people use bots to farm points to trade for crypto. its a win win situation no matter if he is the one who is boting is chat, its views anyway
If you're gambling $12 million you need to seek help. Straight greed. Give back to the viewers who made you, save a life or help to. Something like that, damn. Never understood it and never will.
Just look at the numbers, Roshtein easily wagered 20 times Train's wagered amount and Train is down 300 millions. Do you think Rosh can be down even 10 times that amount without that "business model" Train is talking about? No chance at all, especially since Roshtein doesn't get money from subscriptions or ads. Money has to come from somewhere.
Train was on his ass years ago. And not but 10 months ago now train called him out for him to just deny and now ayezee just popped up the proof. This dude should be black balled
I think rosh makes people think they can gamble and win but how many people has he made think that and they have lost everything, i think rosh portays that he wins millions and millions without losing that much
If you know anything about psychology it’s very easy to see that rosh is deflecting and trying to attack things irrelevant to the actual conversation while train was making clear and understandable questions and accusations that rosh was saying didn’t make any sense. They made very clear sense and if it was a cop interrogating him the cop would know he’s lying.
I've seen train win 12 million plus, then lose it all 2 hours later. Rosh isn't a degen and thinks the more he puts in the more he is going to win back. He knows when to stop, lol
Rosh is dishonest here. Train wants him to be transparent so his viewers is aware of the reality of gambling which is fairTOS. But Rosh viewbots and hides the true reality, set his gambling to more wins than lose. He gets paid for gambling with his affiliates money and set himself more wins.
Who y’all think is in the right?
They both know the truth, Train is the only one that is real enough to speak up on the fake bs in the
game / industry. Anyone that watches rosh knows this
@Dr retardo granted, but what does that have to with the topic at hand in this video
adin ross been a liar/scammer since 2020? U want me to believe him Manz never changed.
12:03 proof they’re all playing with fake stake money which is high rtp… look how nervous they get when Rosh says about showing transactions and leaking them all
Rosh is a scumbag
"Please show me proof"- famous last words LOL ayezee got him.
Rosh is a scammer, ayzee has shown his true colors.
Pretty much... Trains and Rosh have a middle school-style argument about a first-world problem whilst Adin fights his demons to not gamble.
Adin is poor, he scks at stakes ceo Eddie craven , proof 12:03 … oh oh Eddie wants to join when they’re about to escalate to show them the transactions fake proofs
THE PROBLEM WITH ROSH is real. It’s way deeper behind the scenes. Which is mad shady.
@@srbigbuttfacts if they only knew
Train is right. He should show his losses,he should not advertise gambling by showing that everyone can win like him. Gambling is for losing money and u should show the truth specially when u have so many followers watching ur stream.
Rosh literally just deflects and contradicts himself this whole argument.
Because hes guilty as a mf lol
Roshe using self victimization & denial tactics was so seeable 😂😂
Jewish behavior
this discussion was a huge win for train...rosh looked foolish and deceptive
Makes even more sense now after ayezees video
What..ayegaping assezZ is 4 real%?!
@@neelp323 What video?
The reason it is clear Train won this argument by a KO and exposed Rosh is if you watch Rosh's streams more recently you will see a lot more losses (sometimes 5-10 mil) at the top of his page during streaming.. so there is capitulation on that front to show actual losses. But the bigger problem is that Rosh is not using his own funds. He has a co-op account with Stake where he gets a % of the action (or small % of the losses), but not putting his own money at risk. You can even call Stake or visit the website and they will tell you how this agreement works, but it is extremely private in terms of each negotiation.
And???? the account matter not. This is dense. If he's showing the losses what trainwrecks is saying is completely useless a null.
Ayezee just confirmed what Trainwreck suspected months ago
It was true but he try to slendering on Ayezee by Roshtein hired
Asif... That's what you call an honest gambling promoting Arab
Peace for Gaza ❤
Ayezee is fake too loo
Ayezee is fake af aswell so 😂
@@supyeet2953no he isn’t lmaooooo (I won a giveaway)
Rosh using ALL the deflecting tactics. He's always been dirty. Train is 100% right
What I like with Trainwrecks is that he is brutally honest and he has my respect.
who knew if u just blatantly deny hard evidence repeatedly u automatically win the argument?? Rosh rlly cracked the code w that one
This crap is annoying. It's all for views and they called each other after and laughed about it. Of course Eddy the mysterious stake man had to be named. This crap is corny. Online gambling is rigged and fake and a scam ppl
Eddie is the worst of them all
Train" "Rosh your telling me you showing people winning all the time does not add up to more affiliates?" Rosh: " No it doesn't, it doesn't" Train: "Wuw...... WHAT?!?!?" I fucking love that train reacts like that I fucking died LOL
19:54 approx for people wanting time stamp
@@MichaelHeyra Train is the absolute shit lol He fucking kills me in this video I literally listen to this to laugh every now and then. Wish I could meet the guy.
if rohstein really doesn't get what train is saying than he must be slow mentally.
he´s avoiding fs
He deflecting. He knows exactly what train is talking about. He stutters more often than not when he is deflecting
In retrospect Roshtein did gave me the illusion that the odds of winning some money at playing slots was far bigger than in reality.
He seemed to win quite often to a point, that i also wanted to try it.
So i unfortunally i did buy the myth that Rostein shows, and i lost a couple of hundered bucks.
And if Roshtein did show the real reality of losing money at playing slots, i would never tried it in the first place.
I always thought that playing slots winning or losing was arround 50/50.
But you are already very lucky, when you play even.
So winning money is only about a 15% possibillity.
And playing even and getting you money back, is maybe only a 30% chance.
This is 1000% the point trainwrecks was trying to get him to see here
Look at this guy, your parents told you gambling was shit. If you honestly thought gambling could give any more than a coin flip could, you're braindead! Lol 🤡
This conversation makes me respect Trainwrecks more because of his openness and honesty. Ayezee is another real one who will tell you how much money he lost chasing max spin on Power Of Merlin or Muertos
It's all bs
🤣🤣🤣🤣 you think AyeZee is legit 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Can’t stomach rosh
Rosh has been speaking english on stream for the past 6 years. Not sure why he's offended when someone corrects his english.
The reality is this shit is sick, because majority of streamers are not transperant about their losses or how much the bonus hunts actualy cost them.
Because their streams are designed to groom people and get them hooked on gambling and by the time the people realize they've been groomed its to late.
Also hate how everytime a viewer that has lost everything gets pushed to the side like hes in the wrong, for beliving what was shown to him for days on straight or just gets told to self exclude.
Its sick its litteraly like getting someone hooked on heroin then tellin them just quit it bro, it just aint that simple but it is simple for them to wash their hands of the blood thats on them.
Cuz everyone knows the sad truth people die due to this & this is why gambling is considered a sicknes not a addiction by many experts, but im 100% certain Karma has something coming for some of those if not all of them mfs in the near future. This is gonna end up bad in one way or another either someone who lost everything is gonna blow someones head off or regulators are gonna clap down either way I truely hope karma claps back at all the non genuine streamers that take part in this kinda shit.
The guy who can’t come up with a plausible argument let alone a proper sentence trying to insult train’s intelligence 😂
Listening back to this now, since rosh has moved on and streamed on kick magically all his viewership has moved to kick… bro can barely crack 1k on twitch now while he duel streams, while train does the same thing but averages 20k minimum on twitch and if not more on kick. The numbers don’t lie LMAOOO
It's because viewers from kick are just on twitch streamnto collect and farm points which is not possible currently on kick.. Simple..he runs stream only on twitch to show the audience where he's streaming now
The rosh deff view bots.
100%
Listening to very rich people argue like this is actually entertaining lol
Kicks value brand channels:
Rosh = xqc, train = asmond, aiden = destiny
I have a hot take on this… I feel like train is 1000% right and the only reason people are hesitant to agree with him is because nobody is talking about the effects of gambling. Train is probably the only streamer who is actively trying to expose how much damage these streamers/stake is creating. He sees the bigger picture and just wants people to be as aware as possible
First time I heard Rosh covers losses by affiliation -> Passing losses on to his viewers
Train is really adins daddy
no adrew is adin father
Rosh streams for 15 hours doing mostly bonus hunts and bonus buys. It’s very normal that it looks like he is winning. But the reality is that most of his streams he doesn’t break even and he goes down millions. His affiliate business is just so huge that he can easily recover those dollars.
no but train was getting at the fact that roshtein will lose $6m offstream collecting bonuses, then rosh going live and saying the bonus hunt only cost $2m, and most of the time it looks like profit to his viewers as he claims its only 2m.
so it looks like hes winning so he gets more signups
It’s all fake 12:03 rosh was about to expose the stake bubble … and adin instantly oh oh I think Eddie wants to join (ceo of stake) … stake is stealing millions of players with rigged softswiss systems from Russia … and u guys think Heyde playing with own owned money ?
@@Loveiswhatweneed-mx6tbGet your editing skills up and do a video on it! Interesting to say the least
His affiliates aren't actually the biggest LOL he's been lying.
Wow. Roshstein is totally delusional he thinks he's a "winner" on slots? 😂
I think he was saying that ironically haha
@@ashleymariel4153 I quit gambling I don't trust the casinos anymore.
Some people are so poor, all they have is money.
Aiden's chat has to be dumb, so many of them saying that Rosh is cooking Train? Train is 100% Right, facts are that Rosh never shows him hunt his bonuses, so he could spend 5 Million to get them and then tell stream it cost him 2 Million, that way he always wins his bonus hunts and ends up ahead. He does that all the time, anyone with half a brain has caught on to that. ClassyBeef does the same thing as well. Isn't it weird that Syz and Xposed end most bonus hunts in a loss because they show themselves hunting it and the actual cost? but Rosh and Classy Beef almost always end bonus hunts in profit? Rosh saying the fact that he manages to be profitable 8 out of 10 streams is because he logs off when he's up is just absurd. He jukes his stats to sell a false reality.
Some were probably trolling but yeah i agree. Idk how you watch that and think Rosh made a single valid point.
If you watch rosh you deserve to be scammed just use your brain we don’t need daddy train to tell us what to do
i aint reading allat but rosh on top
In the past Rosh always did his bonus hunt on stream, I'd say it took mostly 5hrs for ~100 bonuses, he also used multiple casino sites. However, what is more interesting to me is that Roshtein always said he puts his stream before his gambling addiction and that he always would miss more to stream than to gamble. Then Twitch hit with it's restriction against stake and he was gone for ~12-16 weeks or something, without telling his viewers that he will take a break, when he's about to come back and what's going on in his life, he simply disappeared. He only came back when the cashcow on kick could continue and that's no no to me. Today his twitch channel is only live, constantly running dog house on 50$ bet just to promote his kick stream. He rarely interacts with twitch and only says things like "Oh hey Twitch you still there? How's the dog house going....?". He can be mad at twitch or whatever, but he grew a community there for years... and this is how he treats it today... you could do so much more with it... it's just sad. Today I cannot watch him anymore with the joy from the past. I did not care for fakes this and that, always enjoyed the entertainment... but that's gone now, now I only see greed and that basically kills the entertainment for me.
You got to understand, rosh dont make money on slots. He makes his money on commersial. Thats his job.
The rest of us play at a casino, puts money in slots and if we play long enough we get back 95 %. You cant win money on slots, its the casino who gives you winning sessions when they think you have lost enough.
It’s way more sinister than that, rosh and all these guys make majority of their money on their affiliate codes, train is making a good point that pretending you win all the time will make the people who play on your code lose more because they see you doing well
Train is a GOAT ! when i make trillions i will give this guy 10 mill to gamble for me no matter what happen
Rosh got me into watching gambling vids. Then I found other people's. Always thought he was dodgy. Now I know the truth haha
i have seen roshtein win 5 max wins in a week. somethings weird
thats definitely possible considering hes getting fed basically infinite play money to play with. anyone can hit 5 max wins in a week if they uses playmoney for 15 hours a day
Best part of this video is adin gettin hyped when he has 3 scatters and then gets sad when the 4th doesn’t drop in 😂😂
1:05 I love Train, I do. But that is just pure madness. Rosh has been losing as much as Train has but THEN Rosh hits 3 max win's in a few weeks. That's the difference. They both lose but only one wins it back. Train's initial stance of 2 weeks of winning and then 2 days of losing is absolute nonsense.
This is a very important conversation to have and should have just been between train and Rosh, adin isn't on nearly enough ritalin to stay focused for this conversation. Neon brought great points to the table.
Rosh is the last person on this earth, thinking he is legit
Rosch can't answer any questions 🤣🤣
adin is lowkey childish for yelling like a kid over train because he is annoyed.
Train is right . Streamers suck people in and destroy peoples lives. Gamblings kills.
This is Kinda Hilarious to watch, Specially when we all know The Truth After Zee blasted it all out. If rosh were an animal, he would be a Snake.
25:49 Listen!
Listening to this is mad funny after everything that happened with AyeZee and Rosh yesterday 😂
What exactly happened? I been gone for some time
Train makes perfect sense how tf do you not understand?
Little neon in the background before the fame lol
Rosh is so lost in his own bullcrap that he doesnt realise how many lives are being ruined by gambling and manipulating streams to get more people to sign up....ffs...This has saved the future me a lot of money due to them exposing the bullcrap behind the scenes
train and adin are in the same boat
Yep I realise that now...been researching for last 24hrs and unsubscribed from everything
Rosh so shady he acting like because he stops when he gets up that’s why he doesn’t show a loss is bs. He gambles more than anyone. Than to say showing him winning doesn’t make people want to gamble lol dude is delusional
Rosh doesn’t do view bottling someone else is doing it on his behalf. Plausible deniability.
Man has 24k view bots 😅
100% ROSH DUDE - U NOT TELLING PEOPLE U LOSE CERTAIN AMOUNT OFF STREAM IS DECEPTIVE!!! ROSH BROOOO
Rosh is mad cause he got CAUGHT💯. 🖕ROSH 💯
Lol rosh saying that people See him win constantly would not make him more money through affiliation must have been the most braindead thing ive ever heard Jesus Christ 😂😂😂😂
Look at Adin face when he was told to shut up 😂
26:30 😅😂
“You are making me looking bad and I know it’s true so I’m going ramble and start talking like a kid “ Rosh is so shadey
For anyone who believes that these 2 are gambling real money on stream more than the combined play of the whole of Las vegas needs a reality check. They wagered billions on stake and have direct contact with the owner of stake. Legit yeah right.
train talked about his deal. it is enough for the IRS to arrest him and put him behind bars if he didn't pay taxes for that amount.
so train for sure is playing iwth actual money.
Rosh never talked about numbers so no one can approach him from the government
@@smmshoe that's the reason he moved to Canada. To avoid taxes. And my oh my you actually believe an ex gamer can wager billions of dollars on slots 😂😂😂. And by the way the so called deal with stake is bullshit. Stakes networth is 2 billion dollars. They not paying him 30 percent of their networth yearly. All what he makes from affiliates goes up his nose.
It's all smoke and mirrors!
JEwish Tactician vs Iranian madman
"You always stay at one slot so you lose, while my strategy is leaving and going on to the next big win so thats how im able to stay in profit 8/10 streams" Crazy thing for him to agree to lmao
Rosh is so disingenuous
portray an honest gambling session....each and every stream...otherwise you are creating more and more compulsive gamblers who believe they can win the same way that you are showing.....actually you should be arrested and jailed for falsely portraying gambling
Rosh such a big liar and nothing less
People gamble because they’re bored? Hahaha he’s got to be kidding me
A liar never will tell u the true ...never! He could sell his family too..shame on u Rosh.
Train has very good arguments, but Rosh also, Rosh uses his senses and often knows when to leave a slot. Train drains his whole balance on 1 or 2 (often bad) slots. Rosh is certainly not transparent enough. bonus hunts are done off stream, for what we know he could have bought them or spent 20 million getting them, but just noting down that he spent 6.5 million to get them. Rosh did not answer that question, which means he is not reflecting reality of gambling fully.
I would love to have a chat with Train and explain/teach him some stuff, so he is aware of internals behind online slot playing. Like behaviour detection mode and such. There is a lot more behind slot than so called RNG and RTP. If you really understand those mechanics It will make world of difference. I have sent train email years ago offering some free advise so he understand the internals behind online slots and his gameplay can be improvement. I am really feeling very sorry for Train every time he streams I hope he wins big, but it does not happen often. If anyone read this and knows train, he can message me. He/you guys really need some more insights. I need nothing from anyone, but am offering free advise.
Where are the sites with good rtp
Casino's hate this strategy
I knew Rosh was fake i also think Classybeef is fake AF
Fun fact, rosh was involved with classybeef in the early days. Even came up with the name 😅
But why train is not fake ? Hes doing 2k spins all the fucking time but claim other streamers playing with fake money
@@ozzymer He could be but i dont think he is. Also, the biggest fakes are Ayezee and his boyfriend X7Dave
@@mauinokaoi8747they’re transparent you fkin moron, say how much they’re down, showed all sorts of receipts when he exposed roshtein. Gave millions to his com (including me). You’re a freak
@@ozzymertrain was well established before his gambling career and doesn’t have an affiliate code. Of course ultimately we never know but I would put a lot of money on train being real. He’s a crazy dude
7:10 Rosh just called himself a good gambler. You can't be a good gambler when you gamble 24/7. You lose, end of story. You can gamble for 5 minutes, get lucky and never look back. If you gamble daily, you will fucking lose
TRAIN IS THE GOAT 💯.
Xposed is giving out some of his winnings. He's real
rosh always had bots because of his store and points system, people use bots to farm points to trade for crypto. its a win win situation no matter if he is the one who is boting is chat, its views anyway
Brother not everyone out there is coding a bot to act as a view bot to mine points on his stream
@@Shrowlly Bruh ofc not genious but is a thing that happens. Thats what i said.
i got banned for saying Roshtein has been easing off the viewbots lately, mods are up his clakka
If you're gambling $12 million you need to seek help. Straight greed. Give back to the viewers who made you, save a life or help to. Something like that, damn. Never understood it and never will.
Rosh swore on his parents
W train, but recon rosh havin a hard time following up with English that is his second language.
Train would fucking destroy Rosh in a fight,
1 calf kick train be disabled
@@cindybates68🤡🤡🤡
Just look at the numbers, Roshtein easily wagered 20 times Train's wagered amount and Train is down 300 millions. Do you think Rosh can be down even 10 times that amount without that "business model" Train is talking about? No chance at all, especially since Roshtein doesn't get money from subscriptions or ads. Money has to come from somewhere.
Rosh is acting so stupid. Suddenly he doesnt understand english.
LOL this $hit is so funny listening to these 2 arguing
Rosh is dumb
Train legid he tells people to be careful how gambling is bad, but that losers think he wim everyday
EVERYONE uses view bots, even the streamers you wouldn't expect.
Debating Roshtein is like debating Trump. I love it.
Train was on his ass years ago. And not but 10 months ago now train called him out for him to just deny and now ayezee just popped up the proof. This dude should be black balled
Wow. The further i get, rosh sounds more and more like a total bell end.
Internet Indian wouldn't be anything without Stake. For that fact any of these people
Rosh should own it be real ..then say I dont give a fuck
I fucking hate roshi ever since the start!
damn im back here after ayezee and rosh beef on twitter
3 scammer in the same stream
Wait are there still people that believe Roshjew is a legit gambler? lmao
I think rosh makes people think they can gamble and win but how many people has he made think that and they have lost everything, i think rosh portays that he wins millions and millions without losing that much
Wow this video makes sense after aye zee video
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20 mins in and adin Ross’s balance hasn’t dropped below 50k despite starting with 60
One of the slowest spinning slots and probably the best slot for rtp
Rosh literally doesn't understand anything Train is saying lol. He sounds so stupid 😭😭
Not full clip. There are cuts in this video at 1:03:12 and 1:07:56
If you know anything about psychology it’s very easy to see that rosh is deflecting and trying to attack things irrelevant to the actual conversation while train was making clear and understandable questions and accusations that rosh was saying didn’t make any sense. They made very clear sense and if it was a cop interrogating him the cop would know he’s lying.
did you notice rosh didnt directly deny any of the accusations
I've seen train win 12 million plus, then lose it all 2 hours later. Rosh isn't a degen and thinks the more he puts in the more he is going to win back. He knows when to stop, lol
This I do agree with, it sounds dumb bc it’s gambling either way, but Rosh def knows how to handle a balance better
Rosh is also viewbotting like crazy, like train said he's closer to 4K then 10K viewers
Well I mean, why would Train even care if Rosh is viewbotting or not. How does that affect him?
Rosh is dishonest here. Train wants him to be transparent so his viewers is aware of the reality of gambling which is fairTOS. But Rosh viewbots and hides the true reality, set his gambling to more wins than lose. He gets paid for gambling with his affiliates money and set himself more wins.
@@shamusteakiawaAffects the viewers cause we all know they poor 😂