Charles-Marie Widor - Toccata - Diane Bish - Program
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2012
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Diane Bish performs the "Toccata" from Charles-Marie Widor's 5th symphony during a special two night dedication concert series at the First Baptist Church of Dallas Texas (in which over 7,000 attended!), for the newly installed 149 rank Keates-Geissler pipe organ!
If you look closely near the end, Diane Bish's Mother & Father who also were in attendance are shown in the audience.
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Frantic insanity. I can't get over how fast this is.
I can only assume she has a bus to catch.
I wish I could play it this fast, but would be sure never to do so in public...
Wow no matter if you think this tempo sounds good or not, it's amazing that somebody can actually play it that fast flawlessly. Amazing
You are missing the point you musical heathen.
Its so fast tho
When you are Diane Bish, you get to play it however you want to.
Dennis Tedder I’ve grown as a musician a lot since I posted that comment 6 years ago. Then nor now would I play the piece that fast. My point had nothing to do with musicality. I was commenting on the technical ability. It seems you are missing the point, and to call a stranger a heathen for a comment on a RUclips video seems a bit much. Relax a bit
@@pwmcmz It sounds better to me played at 0.75 setting.
She murdered this piece! Nooooo why?????
MY GOD, who SPIKED her coffee... Much too fast to appreciate the colors of this GREAT work...
+jim Broome-Blanchard Yes some like to drag this piece....
+jim Broome-Blanchard I agree, it´s too fast. (But she is very talanted!)
+jim Broome-Blanchard She drinks decaf. Perhaps you are mistaken for the Holy Spirit working within this huge talent Ms. Bish to give glory to God.
+TC Fenstermaker Criticism of such a huge God given talent. Is that all you can say about how blessed this lady is of God or is it just your thing to crumble and complain about everything. Can you play like she does, if not keep your trap closed. Ridiculous.
+David Karlsson No mess about it. This was a beautiful piece played exactly like it was meant to be played or are you suspect to knowing more about music than this gifted lady of God. Shame on you, I believe you might the be mess.
Wow ! I love it. - One of the real pleasure of my Dad who taught me classical music was the diversity and all different forms one piece of music could be played. This is the spirit that brought to the world many orchestrated works for pieces meant and written for one particular instrument. - ‘Play it slow, play it fast, alone or together but by God play it with joy and love for the music’. And the hell with those complaining.
Thats my Girl! Diane.. Among the "BEST".
POWER & Elegance.
what cracks me up the most is that all the haters on here could NEVER hold a candle to Ms. Bish and play nearly as good as she does. She is a wonderful organist and a wonderful person. Widor would've shaken her hand. And for the record, I've heard her play this live MANY times at several different tempos...she plays according to the situation/room/acoustic/the instrument...WITH HER SOUL...and TO THE GLORY OF GOD.
Diane...I am one of your biggest fans....but you are playing this like you need to finish it quickly to get to the rest room....!!! Love you !!
108!!! 108 DAMMIT!!! 138 IS TOO DAMN FAST!!!
All versions of the sheet music produced in Widor's lifetime are marked quarter note = 118. This is somewhere around 138/140 bpm, which to me is far too fast.
Everything she she plays sucks. She’s just awful.
Yeah, way too fast. And that pedal technique... is she stomping on cockroaches?
It was the commissioning of a new mighty organ....Ms Bish played a faster tempo than usual and delivered a bravura performance with glitter and panache.
Oh how young you look there...and I love the Widor Taccata!
I'm just fascinated how she got the whole thing on two pages with no page turns!!!
J'ai écouté toutes les versions de la Toccata de Widor que l'on trouve sur youtube et c'est toujours avec celle-ci que je décolle..La plus démoniaque.
Affligeant... on dirait que Diane Bish veut gagner le record de vitesse pour l'exécution de cette pièce pourtant si majestueuse quand elle est bien interprétée !
jim B-R. This is beautiful, AND is HER PACE! Have YOU thrilled 100th the amount of people she has at YOUR pace? Come oooon!!! Hush and enjoy!!!
I didn't enjoy that she sounds like she's RUSHING through it. That a MY OPINION like it or not....
My fingers ache playing it at this speed, I don't know how she kept this going.
Widor himself complained of people doing just this to this piece.
Widor never did it like this! Bish is always playing faster and faster, with so much noise! Listen to Widor's version, you find it on youtube.
TRUE
Vikram Keskar no, it’s meant for showing the dexterity and agility of the performer. This performance does neither.
God Bless Texas from Cricklewood.
Umm the pace is just ridiculously fast, someone must have wanted to go home
Good idea. She SHOULD go home. And stay there and away from pipe organs. She needs to cut back on her speed and her 'speed'.
'Oh Lord, give me patience, but hurry...!!!'
Glitz, glamour, sparkles, ludicrous, relentless speed for speed's sake, brashness, tackiness, the inability (or disinterest) in slowing down so as to let each of the notes reverberate properly in a huge space... I can imagine the Frenchman Widor burying his pained face in his hands, only being able to peer through his fingers at this spectacle. I'm amazed the pipes didn't all come crashing down around her after that display of destruction of a mighty piece that just sounds so much better played slower -as it ought to be. It is a great bit of pantomime though, or dare I say 'fun'.
Un morceau de choix magnifiquement interprété. Un plaisir pour le cœur et l'âme.
morceau de choix certes mais hélas interprété par Diane Bish qui ferait mieux de jouer de la guitare plutôt que de s'essayer à l'orgue, aucune sensibilité, ici on dirait qu'elle a un train a prendre après le morceau, affligeant !
This is utterly spectacular. There is not a note out of place and at a faster tempo than written. This is the ultimate expression of this piece. Communion with God.
Fabulous!! She is so great.
It's like Andrew's sisters meets Liberace. Love it!
Fantastic!
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Those who have a problem with the speed are simply envious and don't really have the knowledge and or skill to play as gloriously as Ms. Bish
Scott, Ms Bish could play very well when she wanted to, and I respect that. But this was played as if she had just had a shouting match with someone, and was venting her spleen on the audience. The composer prepared a full gourmet meal, but this was an unappetising stir fry.
Beautiful organist..Diane Bish !!
All the right notes in all the right order, but not necessarily in the right time. Great comedy.
She only made one mistake; it lasted for four and a half minutes.
Oh for crying out loud! Leave the poor woman alone! She's a legend and she plays beautifully! And who knows....maybe she had to PEE!! LOL I can't say anything about speed. When I first started, I frequently got yelled at by church members for "rushing" through hymns. For some reason it never sounds like I'm playing too fast in my head ~shrugs~.
Wonderful The Lord bless you Diane in special way
Fast fast faaaaast!!!! Tooo fast! :(
We can not hear the music. If you understand.
This video is a heavenly gift ! We in Brazil envy the musical level of the baptist churches in the US. Unfortunately just a few ones still have an organ in activity. Congratulations and thanks for sharing this with us.
Where 's The Fire !!
Ms Bish is extremely gifted but must know this speed is killing the music ?
Yes, I agree. And where is the staccato in the right hand that the composer asks.
Maybe she had to pee. Even Christians have to 'go' sometimes.
I love her 🕊
Just because you CAN play this that fast, doesn't mean you SHOULD!!
You are a great player a beautiful woman and you dress like a true queen . Thank you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Loved it!
THis piece of music always gave me an" uneasy"feeling
I've never heard it so fast..... We had an old 78 of Widor himself playing it, and he played it half the speed that it is NORMALLY played!!!!!
I have a clip of this where her mother and father actually stood in front of the congregation while the pastor introduced them and they were applauded. I think it was on "A Tribute to Mothers" program.
good lord almighty this is fast. My fingers could never.
If I didn't know she was serious I'd say this was a parody.
Dr. Frankenfurter in drag. On cocaine.
I see lots of comments about it being too fast. Is that based on personal preference? The music is in 4/2 time, marked allegro (qtr note=100). By my calculations that yields about 18 measures per minute. If you time her playing, she's almost eerily consistent. Personally, I prefer this piece a little on the quicker side.
Right after she has finished you can hear the laughter coming out from Widor's grave...
32' Bombarde - and what (if any) substance can you add to the mix with a zero content page and a sophomoric screen name?
Rather sobbing than laughter...
Widor is actually yelling for someone to go get her a triple Valium.
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It’s too fast but it’s not out of time or sloppy.
Have a listen to Frederick Hohman playing this wonderful piece. He actually knows how to play it.
It's kind of fun hearing this banged out so stupidly fast, but it's definitely not the definitive version lol.
Widor in Hollywood
OUTSTANDING Ms. Bish. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I pray God may richly bless you and your family!
Some like apples, others oranges. I liked her energy and ardour since I was a child, apart the religious fervour... Yes she plays fast( with passion), and that's her charm.
Merci madame Bish!
Diane Bish has a very attractive personality, and a will to reach out to people through the medium of good music. I nevertheless find this very capable rendering somewhat too fast for optimum clarity. In spite of this comment, I wish Ms. Bish to continue fruitfully her apostolate of the console: my very best wishes!
Speed is certainly open to interpretation, and a faster speed is called for in a drier acoustic like this, and I actually don't mind this piece being played at a nice festive, exciting tempo. But when you play it so fast that you can't play the block chords in 16th notes as written (as we see Ms. Bish here, skipping the 16ths........), you might consider slowing down, at least to point where you can effectively play all the right notes! Don't misunderstand: I respect her abilities. In fact, she was actually my initial inspiration to learn the organ at age 8. But her tempo choice on this piece is just objectively out of hand, based on the reality that she can't even fit all the notes in!
+bushmogulmaster I was going to make the same comment. The 16th-note chords are indistinguishable from the 8th-note rhythms simply because Bish cannot play them at this ridiculous tempo. As you stated, she leaves them out for the sake of speed, but her audience, in whose ears she can do no wrong, doesn't know the difference. Shameful!
bushmogulmaster think she dropped a gram of speed before she played it
Sloppy hasty performance. NO SPIRIT TO IT. Just to show off technical skill.
Outstanding! Thank you Ms. Bish. All glory and praise to God our Father!
As soon as audience heard the first few notes of this composition, they applauded! Obviously they enjoyed this quite fast tempo as compared to how the composer himself is playing it! This is a real crowd pleaser!!!
The crowd is stupid. The people like also the blood-pudding.
Listen to Widor himself playing this work - it is far more measured than this Star Trek performance at Warp 9
An incredible peace of music played by an incredible musician; love it!!!
On the tempo issue, Widor composed it as a toccata and so allowed for technique; you could argue that few other musicians, if any, would be able to play at this tempo because of their technique, and there is nothing wrong with that. Thank you for sharing x
Nonsense!
How to show off your virtuosity by playing a toccata so quickly that what ought to sound majestic instead sounds as if we should be seeing cartoon characters scampering around throwing things at one another.
I could not have said it any better.
made my day! :D
Hahaha, funny.
Somebody delete this; it's offensive.
What about free expression, dork?
Is it played two fast, yes. But it’s still incredible that she can play it this fast with little to no mistakes
fantastic!!
Burk !
Judging by the incredibly high speed of her playing, I’d say she probably immediately jumped off the bench and made a mad dash to the nearest restroom to take a leak.
I cannot Believe the Mean spirited ugly Comments about Diane Bish .When She was senior Organist at Coral Ridge Church .She gave the most exciting Concert's and composed so many Great Anthems Such as the Toccata on Christ the Lord is Risen .She has given so many young organist the Honor of given Concert on the Coral Ridge Pipe Organ She also was outstanding when she played for the Sunday Worship Services with the Choir Director Roger McMurrin.
God's Blessings on you and your staff at the Joy of Music.
Ugh. Heard her in Winnipeg, Canada, in 1995. She actually played this piece well at the conclusion of her concert. She sounds like she has to pee sooooooooooo badly.....
This is how to play if the wedding started late and you're trying to catch up. I can hear the composer crying in heaven
So Brilliant, what a joyful, powerful sound. Love and Peace from UK
Obviously, church service was getting perilously close to the beginning of the Cowboy's game.
Een mooi stuk muziek om naar te luisteren maar alleen veel te snel gespeeld. Zo gaat het ten koste van deze mooie Toccata.
Way too fast. Slow it down........good God!
Widor Toccata meets Flight of the Bumblebee
I've heard it played at many different speeds, and somehow I still love it, even this way... Amazing dexterity, and somehow, while it did sort of evoke a carnival, it felt fast but somehow not quite 'frantic' for me, which I admire... Still, not how I would like to hear it. == After reading aitch749's fun comment, I laughed at the wonderful image that painted for me, and VinylToVideo's choice of the phrase "show piece" says it perfectly for me. I know it's /probably/ not entirely accurate to say this, but that made me think, "Well, the tempo might be fine... if Liszt had written it." == All in all, though, bless Ms. Bish for the joy it no doubt gave many who wouldn't know as well as y'all how it was intended, because they (like myself when I fell in love with this piece at St. Thomas Church 5th Ave NYC in 1971 at the age of 12) might have simply reveled in the triumphant, joyful, and, yes, gloriously bombastic feel of it, and not have minded one little bit how fast or slow it was played! Now I'm off to listen to the next video in line, “Ch. M. Widor plays his Toccata from V Symphony Op. 42 No. 1” to learn for myself what Monsieur Widor really wanted it to sound like!
PERFECTION! To God be the Glory!
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love this good for weddings especially royal wedding
She is playing it that fast because she can, sadly Mr. Widor didn't intend for it to be played that fast. When Widor performed this he played it about 20 beats per minute slower.
Looks like a nightingale ... I can' t sleep anymore
DIANE BISH
A GREAT ORGONIST THIS ONE BY CHARLES MARIE WIDOR ONE OF MY FAVORITES
I admire anyone who can play this piece, as it is technically difficult, but goodness she really rushed through it here. She played this piece very well, she also played it like she had to pee real bad.Slow down just a bit so your audience can appreciate the true beauty of this magnificent piece. I guaranty this is not how Mr. Widor would've liked for it to be played.
She beat the merde out of that thang for them Suthren Baptists, bless her heart!
I hate to 'question' Ms. Bish playing, because she is SO Gifted in playing the pipe organ...it is very fast...(the man who wrote this song Charles-Marie Widor ) played the song alot slower in paris on April 1932.
it's how you play the piece either slow or fast; she played with con brio a lot of power and gusto to get the job done!!! everything she does is worth it!!
Absolutely breath-taking!!!
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Sad thing is now they don’t even use this organ anymore!!
I know!!
Being good doesn't mean to be fast. Adoring this peace Diane's version is a no-go.
I really like this tempo(in spite of the general consensus preferring it slower).
Try playing according to the composer's wishes.
@@dennistedder3384 What were Widor's wishes concerning tempo?
@@mihara4730 Okay, perhaps slowly would have been Widor's own personal wishes but I also believe in some sort of artistic license concerning performances. I prefer to hear it faster. You, and others, are welcome to disagree with me just as I disagree with others concerning tempos that I prefer.
AGREE. Bravo!!!
When you’ve heard a minute of this,search Widor himself playing it. Let’s remember it was written as a Funeral recessional piece!
Well, let's hear him playing it!
@@Numbers_6.24-26 here you go: ruclips.net/video/J8vz1D_L_OE/видео.html
@@Blokartperformer Just lovely! Amazing playing the pedals at age 88!
Almost one minute and a half shorter than it should be.
> The original recording of this piece by the composer himself made in 1932 I believe spanned roughly 6.58 minutes wheres as this interpretation is complete in roughly 5:48 which is around 18% quicker.
> Is this really necessary? It is an interpretation after all.
> Of course, the capacity of the pipes and their limits of vibration is a limiting factor as is the overall vision of the organist. Transcribing a piece for violin to the organ would obviously pose some restrictions with regard to overall time to completion. Here we are seeing a piece composed with a certain type of pipe organ in mind; this modern instrument can allow an organist to explore the tempos of the composition.
> Why not let such a detail fall to the side and just listen to this glorious piece. That is what the members of this congregation did and they paid for the instrument; they were also evidently very pleased with the performance and with the quality of the instrument itself.
Leonard Pacelli, Montreal, Canada
If you're going to speak facts - it's best to get them correct!
The actual music on Widor's recording lasts 6mins and 28secs and Bish's 4m 30secs (from 0:54 to 5:24 - she does a lot of talking!) That's 30% quicker!
You do raise a good point. My real comment, however, was directed more to the type of instrument; that is, violin, pipe organ from 1930's, modern instrument. Thank you. LPP
Now that was some agressive pedal-playing!
I have heard some versions played a bit slower, which lends a different feeling to the piece, but this virtuoso interpretation is also interesting - the energy in it gives a "WOW!" experience.
I wasn't commenting on the quality of the playing, just the fact that people claim that Widor meant it to be played slower. If so, then why did he put in the tempo markings that he did? Played as written, she nailed the tempo almost exactly. And yes, that probably did lead to the mistakes in the piece. It's hard enough to play at a much slower tempo!
She is one fantastic organist and is a great ambassador for the instrument. Interesting tempo...but at this speed I don't hear or feel the 'maestoso' of the movement which contributes to its appealing grandeur. But did she show off the instrument and registration? Mission accomplished. Ms. Bish, please come back to Schenectady!
let's see you play it lol my first hearing and I think it sounds good
If I remember correctly, Widor wrote this to show Marcel Dupre, Widor's student at the time, that he could write super demanding pieces like Dupre. lol
Well said Adam Carter ! She ruins everything by being too much in a hurry.
Diane ist die beste Organistin weltweit. Sie ist fantastisch, und diese Interpretation ist ebenfalls einzigartig, ihrem unglaublichem Talent geschuldet.
This is not an "interpretation". It is horrendous and misses all of the composer's intentions. It's ugly, populist and unmusical.
she certainly knows how to bang it out! But give here this: every note is in it's place, incredible technique.
There are lots of missing notes, 16th notes played the same as 8th notes, notes slurred together, and the final bars have the wrong time signature. In addition, there is absolutely no expression in this melée, apart from fast and loud.
Listen to the recording of C-M Widor, the composer, playing it, and listen to how much more majestic and expressive it was than Ms Bish's maelstrom, even though he made a few wrong notes. The difference is striking.
@@RWBHere les americains confondent souvent prouesse et beauté. Quel cirque!
sie ist ein Geschenk! Gottes Zeit ist anders
A virtuoso performance, obviously. Extraordinary talent, but what's the rush? This is a million miles away from what Widor would have wanted.
tooooooooooo faaaaast!!!!!!
i must admit she is playing this WAY too fast, she really needs to slow it down
Monsieur Widor is not turning, but SPINNING in his grave.
Whoa Maestru, slow down or the organ will run out of wind!