Men: does tons of problematic things Fans: It’s okay, we’re all human, he’s learned his lesson, stop attacking him! Women: breathe Fans: HEY WHAT IS THIS- CALL THE COPS ✋🏻
Not really.... Male or female no idol has gotten their career ruined cause of racism, why do you think dirty ass Wendy's solo album is outselling some full groups, why is blackpink the biggest girlgroup currently when they've mocked Desi pei multiple time?
my guess is that SM feels that they should still have them around because they’re making enough money or the members are still in contract for however long.
When I went deeper into super juniors, I noticed that it wasn’t just them who's were good to each other because their were group members but even their families too. 'your son is my son' 'your mother/father is my mother/father' (they call mom/dad not Mr/Mrs) they really have great relationship. And their sisters are also best friends (Kyuhyun, heechul, leeteuk and eunhyuk sister were best friend)
Also them always getting extremely revealing clothes, where you can clearly see they are uncomfortable with. They can't even sit comfortably without a blanket and people always hate on them when revealing moments happen. Like wake up, if you give them so short clothes of course it is more likely that there are revealing incidents smh Also they already get sexualized af no need to make it worse with revealing clothes the idol didn't consent to wear. If they choose to wear it volutarily, I am fine with it, but them being forced and also seeing their discomfort with it, just makes me angry and sad.
the fact that boygroups get way more freedom with song creation while girl groups have to work up to that point and also the fact that sm decided to make superm
FINALLY someone talked about men covering gg songs. why do u have to make it manly? it would be more entertaining, interesting and unique if you cover it originally without being scared of being called "gay". Like what is wrong with being gay, also u could be straight but act "feminine". What is this toxic masculinity
You should watch Oneus' gg covers, all members specially Hwanwoong and Keonhee don't have a bit of toxic masculinity, they truly respect women and that's why I stan them 🤗
another thing I hate is how the girls are always excepted to act nicely when there are men around *even* if they're making them uncomfortable South Korea has a huge problem with feminism (as in the internalised misogyny is horrible) like the latest incident with Stayc's Yoon says it all and she's a MINOR
that's why Irene is labeled as a man hater. like no she just doesn't laugh at every "joke" made by the male species. or jennie is labeled as mean bc ???? like what?!
naur cause how did weeekly who won roty didnt even performed but three bgs didnt even won anything but took 20 minutes off of mama and the bg roty performed for like 20 minutes too
Y'all know how big hit basically only has boy groups I need a company that only does girl groups then the money will only go to them and maybe for once the quality will be good. Not to mention that company wouldn't have to worry about their artist going away as long as they were treated right because they don't have to leave for 18 months.
@@leximichelle6022 Happyface entertainment. They’ve only had girl groups, Dreamcatcher, Dalsahbet and now they’re gonna debut another girl group. No boys in sight, y’all can stan them because they actually put effort into their girls like Dreamcatcher has a crazy budget
@@isabear478 literally, we all know that Wonder Girls, Twice, Miss A, Itzy and even their Japanese girl group NiziU are ten times better than whatever guy group they got
Mine: 1- Women simply taking years or never getting tours on dvd, full albuns, worldwide tour, not being allowed to write or produce(if they are....only one in the group like Soyeon/Hyuna case) 2-Men always get the best outfits and music videos budgets in any company 3-How the companies deal with the tough scandals like dating/drugs/anything, the men always get the best legal team. 4-Enough of female feat male idols. I want Seulgi feat Sunmi, Boa feat Britney Spears idk! 5- How foreign female idols are treated... 6-Dungeons 7-Girl groups having to promote or be kind 24/7 to their seniors and male dongsaengs. Like RV having to smile to Heechul jokes, Twice having to deal with Jyp etc 8-Award and festivals like gayo 9-99% of the FANBOYS ARE THE WORST! They always do shit to the girl groups they supposedly stan 10-Actress disease 11-Sudden termination of contracts, be it direct or indirect. Ex: Gfriend and Pristin 12-Who paved the way were women. Boa, wonder girls, snsd.... 13-Variety shows and Boygroups mocking the female idols, in interviews, covers, skits. R4diost4r excells at that
@@emilyrosario1589 Lots of girl groups helped create an audience in the West for K-Pop, a.k.a paving the way. First example that comes to mind is SNSD.
ok but like it FAILED failed, as in some of those girlies went to literal jail. they committed _crimes._ still doesn't justify not accepting female trainees no more but i can at least understand them focusing on bts rather than just accepting and debuting trainees willy nilly. now that they're back at doing idol trainees again, they do have their iland gg survival show that's coming out next year, so jury's still out on whether or not they'll treat female artists right. i hope they do as i actually like the sort of concepts they're doing with their other iland group.
I found the Hyuna and Jessi dance thing cringy , but people seemed to to like it 😭, but like the least they could do was have matching outfits and that choreo 😭😭😭😭 they really enjoy making me suffer
If you’re talking about the kbs thing they did, I’m pretty sure the reason why the outfits didn’t match is bc hyuna was on the hero team while jessi was for villain
@Rohan Joseph yea, I mean hyuna was the main dancer in 4m but pairing her with jessi, a rapper, was not the smartest move 👀 kbs just wanted to do it bc they were like the leaders of the sides but still, they could’ve rapped or something lol
girl groups put so much work into dance covers of male songs and male idols put on poor trashy feminine outfits wigs and makeup and expect us to be like "haha so funny boys cant wear dresses" when they most definitely can and when they dont do that they do these stiff ass dancing to it and they change the entire dance seventeen and the boyz are one of the only groups that cover female dances without being disrespectful or changing the dance
oneus are also quite respectful and don't overdo it! to me skz did a great job when covering fancy you but I've seen gg stans trash the performance so idk lmao. but yeah otherwise it's always boring, they do the same exaggerated moves and facial expressions and the same boring ass show hosts (MEN) laugh and we are t i r e d.
fr mama needs to start adding more gg’s instead of the same ones every single year 😭 why the hell are they’re 27 boy groups performing and then like 5 gg’s in between
I argue with engenes few days ago for Wonyoung. Sunghoon and Wonyoung were so cold with each other and they said that Wonyoung had to make him comfortable and try socialize with him because Sunghoon is introvert. They blamed Wonyoung for being cold to Sunghoon even though Sunghoon isn't different. Why is it Wonyoung's fault if Sunghoon is introvert or doesn't want to talk with people? They blame Wonyoung for everything. Internalized misogyny of these boygroup stans drive me crazy.
right now i don't like sunghoon because he is the one teasing one of his group members about gaining weight.and he doesn't seem to stop..... as an introvert, i dont claim him u.u b
5 times is asking a lot...they learned that dance by watching the choreography video while riding in separate vans on the way to the venue and having 1 run-through while waiting backstage
back then it was momoland, then jennie, then karina, and now it’s wonyoung. kpop stans are always choosing a female idol to target and hate on for no reason. never seen this happen to a bg or male idol.
as a gg stan I've witnessed this shit for so many years now and bg stans still have the audacity to disagree 😐 the biggest proof of internalised misogyny is how men are always better off when it comes to a dating scandal than the woman
Something I’ve noticed especially in Sm is they always shove their bgs down everyone’s throat (expect for exo) and always go all out but with their ggs they’re just like eh
I'm a MY and I think that Black Mamba was a mess. SM spent a lot of money to make it look like they care, but they don't. How could a company with SM's reputation give Aespa some recycled songs instead of something original that is better than Black Mamba? That's so pathetic.
I’m saw someone say that a male idol will have a voice crack and stans will be like ( even if there like mid 20s) “aw my baby’s being overworked” and other sh*t like that. But when Mina or Iu literally any other gg member it all “ she need to practice more , she’s so useless” LIKE WHAT IS THIS . Even when the female idol is like 15 . But when a 27 year old man had a voice crack he’s suddenly a “tired little baby”
The problem comes when V is rude to people and armys call it "vibe check" but when jennie or lisa slightly roll their eyes "she's so rude, you're an idol maam"
^^ actually I’ve been seeing Army’s saying “this woman actually passed Taehyung’s vibe check” recently about a recent interview with a black woman reporter. The video is labeled “V flirts with this interviewer,” look at the comment section about said “vibe check,” and how not many people pass. It’s you Army’s who are saying this shit
this comeback was the perfect opportunity for loona to have a full album with haseul coming back in over 2 years... but ofc bbc is doing the bare minimum
@@camargabsdotcom I mean I get what you mean, the lack of original songs (and songs in general!) by aespa is literally embarrassing, I don't know what SM is doing. They are giving them the BARE minimum when they have so much potential, when Red Velvet debuted they had a mini-album by now. But NCT dream has only had one comeback per year for a few years now, after 5 years from debut they now have gotten their first full album and first repackage, so they are not the best boy group to use as an example, in my opinion, they are the worst managed and underused boy group in all SM. 😅😅😅 Anyway, I get what you mean, is so frustrating to see boy groups coming back again and again, and not having any girl group comebacks. 😭😭😭
@@darlinarlin2661 I think i meant every nct comeback ever lol. I'm no bg stan so I know nothing about bgs except from Shinee lmao. It may not be a good example but my point was aespa's poor management, as you said. Not to mention that RV hasn't had a comeback as a whole group in like forever, fx was literally a waste of everything and snsd is probably never coming back :')
You know boys are not as good as girls when you literally see girls in other countries outsolding or still going strong like AKB48 and NiziU in Japan, Little Mix and Dua Lipa in England, The9 and SNH48 in China and Taylor Swift, Ariana Grande and Olivia Rodrigo in the US. That shows you that girls are the best when they can top everywhere, yet they still get hated on
i just remembered when berry good performed in music bank with no ear-in, no backing vocals, no nothing, and they still slayed... which boy group went through that in 2016?
@@Sophia-wd4bo ruclips.net/video/rbiF3yOpO5w/видео.html a comment said: "They use cheapest earpieces and mics. During some perf it did even fell off or didnt work at all." you could hear them sing a little late, probably because they didn't have earpieces or the earpieces they had were really bad/didn't work. moreover, music bank cut 1 minute of the original song and posted the video 4 days after they performed (the video says the date is 2016.11.04, but it's actually 2016.11.11, because there are 2 different performances of don't believe in music bank with the same date)
treasure stealing from blackpink getting 5 high quality mvs in less than a year AND a full album AND a japan debut while yg uses capcut to make blackpink japan teasers 🤨
Like they get a full length album in just a year, and if you compare treasures debut to blackpink's debut they are not even near to blackpink in terms of having a successful debut...
Misogyny and double standards DO EXIST and they're so normalised that people don't even notice. There's a HUGE reason why gg stans are toxic. 75% of our time goes in defending their personal choices. And don't blame it just on knetz, they play a huge role but the international stans aren't any less. I'm sure hate goes both ways but the reason for hate - gender, mostly exists for women. THAT'S THE TRUTH!
I am a multistan like i am a fan of treasure,blackpink,bts,twice,Stray kidz,Itzy,The boyz and Ateez but I have noticed that blinks called toxic the most among all these fandoms. In fact when blinks praise blackpink other people always like ALWAYS and ALWAYS bring other idols in it but don't do it to ther groups For Example I saw a tweet saying rosé is "one of the best" singers and my fav and then someone said wjat about solar?Rosé has no chance against solar! Like what the actual fuxk they literally said one of the best was it necessary to bring solar into this?! but i don't see this happening with other groups!
the lack of girl groups at the award shows make them so boring like.. we have all these talented girl groups here but they won’t get invited… and idk why. it doesn’t make sense. it’s always the same boy groups giving us absolutely nothing that get invited. some of them don’t need to be there. 👎 also ur editing is really cool 🙏🏾
Excuse me 1. Super junior fandom ELF raise their money and buy shares in sm 2. Super juniors put out their own pocket money for album making and music video. And not waiting for money from sm like their other artists
@@invadero.o963??? Kinder what??? Elf??? Haha.. Because we told the truth so we were kinderelf?? Than please be mature don't embarrass yourself. Accept the fact that your beloved group is selfish and chooses to break up. Don't blame other groups who work hard to satisfy their fans by spending their own money for the album while your favourite group is selfish and leaves you.
About #3, I was watching Taeyong and Seulgi (forgive me if I spelled her name wrong) dancing to Make A Wish right. And I go into the comments and I see things like “other female idols are so stiff when they’re doing dance covers to male idols songs but not Seulgi” like tf that supposed to mean m’am? Maybe it’s because I’m not into kpop music as I should be or because of my limited knowledge but a lot of the comments gave me very misogynistic vibes idk. (And when I say I’m not into kpop music as I should be I mean I’ve been exposing my self to the problematic side of these kpop idols that I don’t even trust to listen to any of the songs without fearing that might’ve done something to others (which is pretty sad when you think about it))
NUMBER 8 IS SO TRUE!! and literally when ggs are given full albums a lot of the songs are filler, it's so sad (not all ggs but a lot). they usually look like this alsjdks -intro -title track -one good bside -ballad -ballad 2.0 -title track (instrumental) + CAN I ALSO SAY the editing of your intro is so good and made me laugh a lot LMAO
bro y'all remember holland saying allot ALLOT of idols where homophobic, bro is besties with half the gg industry and bts, i am getting very very worried ngl
aespa has had 3 singles and NO MINI YET and it’s been months in between their comebacks, i was thinking that aespa would have the same pattern of comebacks as red velvet in their debut/rookie era but i was wrong .... 😕 and now i’m praying to god that aespa gets a mini their next comeback or i’m gonna cry i need more aespa content i am starving . ALSO YOU’RE SO RIGHT SM JUST REPACKAGED NCT DREAM’S HOT SAUCE ALBUM EVEN THOUGH IT WAS SO BAD WHILE AESPA SHOULD’VE HAD A MINI BY NOW BC THEY HAVE GOOD MUSIC!!! IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE THE ONLY ANSWER IS MISOGYNY .
also the fact that male kpop idols could literally commit a crime and their comments would be filled with support (yknow who im talking about) while they will drag female idols for making the wrong facial expression 🤡
i also feel like ggs get canceled so much more easily than boy groups. so many bgs have said and done similar things that these cancelled ggs have done yet they’re still thriving. i can think of more openly problematic ggs than bgs but that’s only bc girls are being held accountable (which rightfully so) while bgs aren’t. i feel like it’s bc the fandom has far more female stans and women place these men on pedestals and claim that they’re high and mighty and only pick out the good things to focus on. like sis, u are angry that gidle uses culture as a concept but u don’t hold bts accountable for doing the exact same thing. sowon was rightfully canceled for being an antisemite through ignorance yet y’all forget that bts had a sw@zika scandal too.
I went to a purplebeck fanmeeting the other day and all of their hair colors had changed and they looked like they were at their dorm but I think there just getting some good rest. BUT I MISS PURPLEBECK TOO😭😭😩
finally someone said it. i blame verivery for gugudan's disbandment. as soon as they debuted jellyfish said fuck gugudan even tho they were doing pretty good. and the fact that verivery is even less popular than gugudan but still active??? misogyny
@@dogstarrules7433 i didn't talked shit about boys. i meant that their debut took away all poorly made gugudans promotion. if jellyfish gave gugudan the same promotion they do for verivery, gugudan would sell even more. companies tend to prefer to promote bg over gg but jellyfish didn't even promoted gugudan for last 2 years, which is completely different for verivery :))) so yeah as person who ults gugudan for 4 years i can be mad at verivery and jellyfish
@@caratarmy_lyla there was viral video showing a black man harassed and handcuffed on a subway platform by white police officers for eating a sandwich and amber qrted(?) the tweet saying "i think he deserved it, he was being super disrespectful. you don't have to act like that towards a police officer. a police officer is a police officer. you should still some type of respect. know your rights, but show some type of respect.”
My 13th reason is how mino, bobby and this other flop from winner or ikon idgaf all had full albums with like 183929 songs and my girl rosé had 2 and jennie had 1
I'm so glad someone shares my opinion about men covering girl group dances. It has been over a year and I'm still SO enfuriated by that one Wannabe dance cover GOD that man ruined the dance!!! Do you see girl groups making boy group dances more feminine? Hell no they don't! Get a grip of your toxic masculinity lmaoooo
Feminism≠ to hating men. To all the people bashing boy groups we should be fighting for the women in the kpop industry to get better treatment but we shouldn't ask for the boygroups to get worse treatment. Please stop this! Your gender doesn't make you superior please stop!
I will never stop being pissed over the fact that some random rookie bgs got to perform at mama but weeekly who actually fcking won roty didn't?! The misogyny is so obvious
the thing about #7 that makes me mad is that when gg's do get to perform, they get 3 minutes and just get to perform their most recent comebacks (even if their other comebacks from the year were better ex. gidle performing dumdi dumdi despite oh my god also coming out in 2020). with bg (even rookies bg's), they get to have a fancy intro and so much money put into their performances.
Loona dubbed themselves as a performance group so I think they work on the choreo more. They still manage to make good songs on their mini albums tho. I think that’s why they haven’t had a full album yet. Could be wrong tho
1. I'm in love with your editing style and channel 2. FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT like the new MLD (Momoland's company)boy group give this boy with generic as music an music video budget that Momoland can only dream of, but my girlies here in the ready or not music video had the most BASIC music video (and says a LOT)
sm giving flop boy groups full album after full album and then giving 2 digital singles to the pretty rookies that are smashing , its giving me anti woman 😥
@@dogstarrules7433 the thing is I don't disagree with ops comment. but you have to remember that nct (if op meant nct) are like million sellers with each album😭 but no its definitely not fair. every group should be given like a full album every 2 years in my opinion and like 2 mini albums in a year and maybe a single as well. but 1 song every couple of months????!!!! ELECTRIC CHAIR
On 3, I just want to say there are fans who think that the female covers of male groups aren’t better than the male groups’ original songs, but they think the male covers of female groups are better than the original version. Like tbh, I prefer Twice’s FANCY to Stray Kidz’s version, because it just wasn’t really their style.
omg your point about male idols covering gg dances has bothered me for YEARS now,, the girlies actually put effort in covering the songs/dances and the male idols 99% of the time play it off as a joke and i hate it
no. 3 should be spoken about more!!! why tf are they over exaggerating and making fun of ggs dances while ggs put effort and take any bg/gg dance srsly
sm gave us the biggest gg collab of all time, only to sing about how "big" their boy is xD.... literally i hate it.... i want an actual girl group collab now.
legit cried thinking about the systematic oppression women face in the workforce..
#sad
I cry too
haha dont kill urself :( ur so seci
its actually sick. heartbreaking.
fr its so sad
Men: does tons of problematic things
Fans: It’s okay, we’re all human, he’s learned his lesson, stop attacking him!
Women: breathe
Fans: HEY WHAT IS THIS- CALL THE COPS ✋🏻
so true
@BLACKPINK DOMINATION Zico
Not really.... Male or female no idol has gotten their career ruined cause of racism, why do you think dirty ass Wendy's solo album is outselling some full groups, why is blackpink the biggest girlgroup currently when they've mocked Desi pei multiple time?
@@punpunhater I wasn’t just talking about racism there’s more reasons, but even with racism bgs don’t get called out as much
@@cyd3ria135 SuJu
Exactlyyy how come most girl groups can only get to 7 years meanwhile super senior etc are literal zombies and still having comebacks
it makes even less sense bc of the military service for men
my guess is that SM feels that they should still have them around because they’re making enough money or the members are still in contract for however long.
still snsd make more money than super grandpas and no sign of a comeback...
super hags
When I went deeper into super juniors, I noticed that it wasn’t just them who's were good to each other because their were group members but even their families too. 'your son is my son' 'your mother/father is my mother/father' (they call mom/dad not Mr/Mrs) they really have great relationship. And their sisters are also best friends (Kyuhyun, heechul, leeteuk and eunhyuk sister were best friend)
And can we also talk about stylists not knowing how to dress female idiols that aren't pear or hourglass body shape?!? 🙄
And most female idols have square or inverted triangle body types, so most of them aren't dressed properly
Also them always getting extremely revealing clothes, where you can clearly see they are uncomfortable with. They can't even sit comfortably without a blanket and people always hate on them when revealing moments happen. Like wake up, if you give them so short clothes of course it is more likely that there are revealing incidents smh
Also they already get sexualized af no need to make it worse with revealing clothes the idol didn't consent to wear. If they choose to wear it volutarily, I am fine with it, but them being forced and also seeing their discomfort with it, just makes me angry and sad.
and the idols who do have an hourglass shape always get dressed in revealing outfits sigh
Honestly I noticed they dress the apple and rectangle shape the worst.
@@butterflyera765 yea jongyeong and giselle be suffering
Plz I seen someone say female idols starting acting is the equivalent to male idols going to the military🙄🙏
NO BECAUSE THEY ARE RIGHT
the thing is men come back... women never do 💔
AAAAAAAAAAAAAA STOP NOOOOOOOOOO
YG watched rose's ONE fucking b side outsell the full album treasure got after not even a year and said 'back to the dungeon for you'
watched jennie break all them records and yet..
this comment
Rosé’s two songs were better than whatever tf treasure has been putting out
@@maddiej2165 Okay but their title tracks + Orange and Slow Motion were actually good so 😭
Rosé outsold with two songs 👁️👁️
the only girl in the whole industry that keeps releasing full albums is iu and that's because she's probably the most famous kpop idol in korea
#7 : no but fr where was the girl groups???? weeekly literally won rookie of the year and didn’t even get the chance to perform😭
THIS AND THE ROOKIE OTHER GROUP GOT TO PERFORM TRASH
the fact that boygroups get way more freedom with song creation while girl groups have to work up to that point and also the fact that sm decided to make superm
More creative freedom for everyone!
No one even ASKED for superM wtf was SM doing
sperm's music is so cringe
got is here yall
Girls On Top/GOT The Beat is here to save us y'all don't worry (altho ryan jhun the weirdo made the song misogynistic but HERE WE ARE)
why weren't gfriend invited to most end of the year awards ceremonies when they released MAGO???? misogyny is the only possible answer
cuz nazi 🥲
@@aesynk3537 Oh yeah i forgot well then the only answer is misogyny
@@brennathecatlover4360 girl I see you everywhere defending these boy groups. And you're still dumb
@@Im_a_nice_fox best pfp ever bestie
@@keishalawson3995 don't u think you are the one who's being a men hater here lmao? That person never defended bg's
FINALLY someone talked about men covering gg songs. why do u have to make it manly? it would be more entertaining, interesting and unique if you cover it originally without being scared of being called "gay".
Like what is wrong with being gay, also u could be straight but act "feminine". What is this toxic masculinity
you should watch stray kids fancy cover. break all stereotypes
You should watch Oneus' gg covers, all members specially Hwanwoong and Keonhee don't have a bit of toxic masculinity, they truly respect women and that's why I stan them 🤗
@@carlaalmendros611 yes we stan respectful kings.
I watched them join the rpd in kcon and one guy caught my attention when he was dancing to gg songs
Seventeen covers of girl groups are neither them without being shy to act feminine nor demeaning the feminine aspects.
u gotta watch what is love by The Boyz and fancy cover by Stray KIds
another thing I hate is how the girls are always excepted to act nicely when there are men around *even* if they're making them uncomfortable
South Korea has a huge problem with feminism (as in the internalised misogyny is horrible) like the latest incident with Stayc's Yoon says it all and she's a MINOR
that's why Irene is labeled as a man hater. like no she just doesn't laugh at every "joke" made by the male species. or jennie is labeled as mean bc ???? like what?!
@@sal336 exactly lol I love Irene for giving men the cold shoulder if she doesn't feel like laughing or being near them
right like miss yoon is literally in school doing her algebra homework
istg dreamcatcher have such potential to become THE milf group,,, they better not disband before that
YES
Oh my gosh imagine if female idols collaborated with eachother more 😭😭😭😭😭, we would've gotten iu X rosé years ago 😭😭
i would cry if that actually happened 😭✋
😭
naur cause how did weeekly who won roty didnt even performed but three bgs didnt even won anything but took 20 minutes off of mama and the bg roty performed for like 20 minutes too
FR THAT SHIT HURT
Y'all know how big hit basically only has boy groups I need a company that only does girl groups then the money will only go to them and maybe for once the quality will be good. Not to mention that company wouldn't have to worry about their artist going away as long as they were treated right because they don't have to leave for 18 months.
Jyp needs to stop debuting boy groups if they know girl groups do better in their company 🙄
omg i would love an all gg company. that’d be so iconic
@@leximichelle6022 Happyface entertainment. They’ve only had girl groups, Dreamcatcher, Dalsahbet and now they’re gonna debut another girl group. No boys in sight, y’all can stan them because they actually put effort into their girls like Dreamcatcher has a crazy budget
@@isabear478 literally, we all know that Wonder Girls, Twice, Miss A, Itzy and even their Japanese girl group NiziU are ten times better than whatever guy group they got
I’m sorry to inform but they do have big groups. Classmate and d1ce but they are very unpopular
Mine:
1- Women simply taking years or never getting tours on dvd, full albuns, worldwide tour, not being allowed to write or produce(if they are....only one in the group like Soyeon/Hyuna case)
2-Men always get the best outfits and music videos budgets in any company
3-How the companies deal with the tough scandals like dating/drugs/anything, the men always get the best legal team.
4-Enough of female feat male idols. I want Seulgi feat Sunmi, Boa feat Britney Spears idk!
5- How foreign female idols are treated...
6-Dungeons
7-Girl groups having to promote or be kind 24/7 to their seniors and male dongsaengs. Like RV having to smile to Heechul jokes, Twice having to deal with Jyp etc
8-Award and festivals like gayo
9-99% of the FANBOYS ARE THE WORST! They always do shit to the girl groups they supposedly stan
10-Actress disease
11-Sudden termination of contracts, be it direct or indirect. Ex: Gfriend and Pristin
12-Who paved the way were women. Boa, wonder girls, snsd....
13-Variety shows and Boygroups mocking the female idols, in interviews, covers, skits. R4diost4r excells at that
Also, girl groups in the west helped paved the way for pop groups to be popular in the east. So, the girls did that too
Paved the way for what?
BoA feat. Britney Spears would actually be great
@@emilyrosario1589 Lots of girl groups helped create an audience in the West for K-Pop, a.k.a paving the way. First example that comes to mind is SNSD.
@@emilyrosario1589 for your oppas
big hit deciding a failed girl group 1,000 years ago justifies never accepting female trainees again 😒
@kim namjoon made me straight again literally like damn i wonder how many talented females he lost-_-
exactly I used to thought they only did boy groups but no, they just don't have many female idols/groups
bighit has a another company called belift belift is accepting girl trainees making iland girl version in 2022
Well now most crazy people would only try to get in because of bts
ok but like it FAILED failed, as in some of those girlies went to literal jail. they committed _crimes._ still doesn't justify not accepting female trainees no more but i can at least understand them focusing on bts rather than just accepting and debuting trainees willy nilly. now that they're back at doing idol trainees again, they do have their iland gg survival show that's coming out next year, so jury's still out on whether or not they'll treat female artists right. i hope they do as i actually like the sort of concepts they're doing with their other iland group.
I found the Hyuna and Jessi dance thing cringy , but people seemed to to like it 😭, but like the least they could do was have matching outfits and that choreo 😭😭😭😭 they really enjoy making me suffer
If you’re talking about the kbs thing they did, I’m pretty sure the reason why the outfits didn’t match is bc hyuna was on the hero team while jessi was for villain
@Rohan Joseph yea, I mean hyuna was the main dancer in 4m but pairing her with jessi, a rapper, was not the smartest move 👀 kbs just wanted to do it bc they were like the leaders of the sides but still, they could’ve rapped or something lol
same 😫
@@daisyseungwoo6154 LMAO💀💀
😂
girl groups put so much work into dance covers of male songs and male idols put on poor trashy feminine outfits wigs and makeup and expect us to be like "haha so funny boys cant wear dresses" when they most definitely can and when they dont do that they do these stiff ass dancing to it and they change the entire dance seventeen and the boyz are one of the only groups that cover female dances without being disrespectful or changing the dance
@@brennathecatlover4360 that’s not the point also they aren’t
@@brennathecatlover4360 well they don’t tho so we don’t know
@@brennathecatlover4360 sweet summer child. "Care", bitches are ready to throw hands. You must be new...
oneus are also quite respectful and don't overdo it! to me skz did a great job when covering fancy you but I've seen gg stans trash the performance so idk lmao. but yeah otherwise it's always boring, they do the same exaggerated moves and facial expressions and the same boring ass show hosts (MEN) laugh and we are t i r e d.
@@jaman_jy omg yess!!! I totally look into oneus
fr mama needs to start adding more gg’s instead of the same ones every single year 😭 why the hell are they’re 27 boy groups performing and then like 5 gg’s in between
Exactly!!!!!
"they train for 87 years just to be active for 5" why is this sentence so sadly true
I argue with engenes few days ago for Wonyoung. Sunghoon and Wonyoung were so cold with each other and they said that Wonyoung had to make him comfortable and try socialize with him because Sunghoon is introvert. They blamed Wonyoung for being cold to Sunghoon even though Sunghoon isn't different. Why is it Wonyoung's fault if Sunghoon is introvert or doesn't want to talk with people? They blame Wonyoung for everything. Internalized misogyny of these boygroup stans drive me crazy.
True
@@lemuelygusquiza8117
and she is only 17, they should be sued for harassing a minor.
right now i don't like sunghoon because he is the one teasing one of his group members about gaining weight.and he doesn't seem to stop..... as an introvert, i dont claim him u.u b
@@danigirii
Im glad u dont agree .
Sadly, most fans dont have moral compass.
hyuna and jessi did NOT practice that lil number more than like 5 times
5 times is asking a lot...they learned that dance by watching the choreography video while riding in separate vans on the way to the venue and having 1 run-through while waiting backstage
^^^ stfu 💀💀💀 not you narrating their day with so much detail lmaoo
you mean 5 minutes 😭
that moment when you realized nct have more members than the overall amount of females in sm 😶
ggs being the ones charting & selling yet companies put all their money into their bgs…
yg and jyp would be broke without their ggs
@nicki what bg they got going on?
@@1ia802 ikr. Twice and bp are the only thing keeping yg and jyp alive.
@@dogstarrules7433 exactly. if twice wasnt there jyp would be broke cus their other money maker dipped
@@dogstarrules7433 we don't care about got7
back then it was momoland, then jennie, then karina, and now it’s wonyoung. kpop stans are always choosing a female idol to target and hate on for no reason. never seen this happen to a bg or male idol.
ok, but the one about female soloists featuring random dudes is so true, i'm always so done with this shit, why do they always ruin my girls' bops 💔😭
@@sayenka6093 wait I forgot easy had a dude featuring HAHAH the most unnecessary 5 seconds periodt
as a gg stan I've witnessed this shit for so many years now and bg stans still have the audacity to disagree 😐
the biggest proof of internalised misogyny is how men are always better off when it comes to a dating scandal than the woman
Something I’ve noticed especially in Sm is they always shove their bgs down everyone’s throat (expect for exo) and always go all out but with their ggs they’re just like eh
so true bestie
so true. I'm a hardcore ntczen but pls GIMME SOME AESPA CONTENT AND PLS PUT YOUR EFFORT AND BUDGET IN IT DAMNIT
@@alicebrocardo861 ‼️‼️‼️‼️
I'm a MY and I think that Black Mamba was a mess. SM spent a lot of money to make it look like they care, but they don't. How could a company with SM's reputation give Aespa some recycled songs instead of something original that is better than Black Mamba? That's so pathetic.
@@alicebrocardo861 true
I’m saw someone say that a male idol will have a voice crack and stans will be like ( even if there like mid 20s) “aw my baby’s being overworked” and other sh*t like that. But when Mina or Iu literally any other gg member it all “ she need to practice more , she’s so useless” LIKE WHAT IS THIS . Even when the female idol is like 15 . But when a 27 year old man had a voice crack he’s suddenly a “tired little baby”
The problem comes when V is rude to people and armys call it "vibe check" but when jennie or lisa slightly roll their eyes "she's so rude, you're an idol maam"
Yassss
When tf was he rude to other people? Now you're calling others rude just to defend your faves
^^ actually I’ve been seeing Army’s saying “this woman actually passed Taehyung’s vibe check” recently about a recent interview with a black woman reporter. The video is labeled “V flirts with this interviewer,” look at the comment section about said “vibe check,” and how not many people pass.
It’s you Army’s who are saying this shit
@@gumball_watershit ok bts stan. i see you commenting on every comment calling out army’s misogyny. i promise you v doesn’t gaf about you.
@@aurora-cc6hk I promise neither does your parents about you, and wtf it's your problem I'm a bts stan? Ok dumbass
this comeback was the perfect opportunity for loona to have a full album with haseul coming back in over 2 years... but ofc bbc is doing the bare minimum
well at least their mini albums are longer than most groups
@@ajanugu yeah 7 songs for mini album is alot unlike... you know *cough cough* blackpink mini albums *cough cough*
@nicki JAJAJAJAJAJA
@nicki also im gay
The Album is only about 3 and a half minutes longer than & lmaooo
Also true on number 7 I’m sick of having to sit through individual performances from every single nct subunit just to see a single girl group
Dream coming back like 10 times a year and Aespa having a comeback with a non original song and not even a full album..I'm-
@@camargabsdotcom I mean I get what you mean, the lack of original songs (and songs in general!) by aespa is literally embarrassing, I don't know what SM is doing. They are giving them the BARE minimum when they have so much potential, when Red Velvet debuted they had a mini-album by now.
But NCT dream has only had one comeback per year for a few years now, after 5 years from debut they now have gotten their first full album and first repackage, so they are not the best boy group to use as an example, in my opinion, they are the worst managed and underused boy group in all SM. 😅😅😅
Anyway, I get what you mean, is so frustrating to see boy groups coming back again and again, and not having any girl group comebacks. 😭😭😭
@@darlinarlin2661 I think i meant every nct comeback ever lol. I'm no bg stan so I know nothing about bgs except from Shinee lmao. It may not be a good example but my point was aespa's poor management, as you said. Not to mention that RV hasn't had a comeback as a whole group in like forever, fx was literally a waste of everything and snsd is probably never coming back :')
Dream catcher is one of the most obvious example. Istg if bg do that kind of concept people will love it because it's unique and look attractive.
weki meki: 4 mini albums, 3 single albums, repackage single album.....
astro: 2 full albums, 7 mini albums
weki meki: -_-
Where’s Weki Meki, Fantagio. Give me my girls
@@maddiej2165 it's been 9 months ,, fantagio I hate u
You know boys are not as good as girls when you literally see girls in other countries outsolding or still going strong like AKB48 and NiziU in Japan, Little Mix and Dua Lipa in England, The9 and SNH48 in China and Taylor Swift, Ariana Grande and Olivia Rodrigo in the US. That shows you that girls are the best when they can top everywhere, yet they still get hated on
I think Taylor Swift has outsold more album than Ariana and Olivia and heck she is the most outsold artist of our generation.
@@Taylorc0de true but women rule
@@maddiej2165 facts bestie
because most male artists are literally plain as fuck unlike women who make more creative effort of pieces (loona, lady gaga etc.)
@Did someone say DRACO MALFOY Period and if someone says otherwise than I respect your opinion to be wrong.
Girl groups always disband yet we still have suju still here. Like bring the girls back and disband the men 😩
FR LIKE WHY IS SUJU STILL A GROUP 😭
@@jisungroove Exactly like we want a snsd or a rv come back. Here come these men who isn't bringing. Anything to the table making a come back.
These crusty men should disband
YES LOVING THE SUJU SLANDER
@@brennathecatlover4360 smh being noticed by you is the best thing that has happened to me. tysm senpai.
i just remembered when berry good performed in music bank with no ear-in, no backing vocals, no nothing, and they still slayed... which boy group went through that in 2016?
none!
Omg what performance was that? i wanna watch itttt
@@Sophia-wd4bo ruclips.net/video/rbiF3yOpO5w/видео.html
a comment said: "They use cheapest earpieces and mics. During some perf it did even fell off or didnt work at all." you could hear them sing a little late, probably because they didn't have earpieces or the earpieces they had were really bad/didn't work. moreover, music bank cut 1 minute of the original song and posted the video 4 days after they performed (the video says the date is 2016.11.04, but it's actually 2016.11.11, because there are 2 different performances of don't believe in music bank with the same date)
@@isabear478 that wasn't my point... what i was trying to say is that women are always given less resources to perform than men
i haven’t rewatched a single performance from kingdom but queendom was so good😕😕😕
i only watched some kingdom performances they were ok
I just love how you post randomly you honestly just made my day 😭
hehe
treasure stealing from blackpink getting 5 high quality mvs in less than a year AND a full album AND a japan debut while yg uses capcut to make blackpink japan teasers 🤨
Like they get a full length album in just a year, and if you compare treasures debut to blackpink's debut they are not even near to blackpink in terms of having a successful debut...
It's just like blackpink stole bigbang and got mvs
@ALDREZ actually they stole from 2NE1 and made use of that money cause unlike treasure they made back even more
Misogyny and double standards DO EXIST and they're so normalised that people don't even notice. There's a HUGE reason why gg stans are toxic. 75% of our time goes in defending their personal choices. And don't blame it just on knetz, they play a huge role but the international stans aren't any less. I'm sure hate goes both ways but the reason for hate - gender, mostly exists for women. THAT'S THE TRUTH!
IFKR
I am a multistan like i am a fan of treasure,blackpink,bts,twice,Stray kidz,Itzy,The boyz and Ateez but I have noticed that blinks called toxic the most among all these fandoms.
In fact when blinks praise blackpink other people always like ALWAYS and ALWAYS bring other idols in it but don't do it to ther groups For Example
I saw a tweet saying rosé is "one of the best" singers and my fav and then someone said wjat about solar?Rosé has no chance against solar!
Like what the actual fuxk they literally said one of the best was it necessary to bring solar into this?! but i don't see this happening with other groups!
the lack of girl groups at the award shows make them so boring like.. we have all these talented girl groups here but they won’t get invited… and idk why. it doesn’t make sense. it’s always the same boy groups giving us absolutely nothing that get invited. some of them don’t need to be there. 👎
also ur editing is really cool 🙏🏾
ok but the fact that when rookie bg covers a bg its always a carbon copy of the bg stans BUT WHEN ITS GIRL GROUPS
NOT EVERYTHING IS ITZYS FAULT BTW. THEY HAD ICY
IT IS ACTUALLY
AGREE
“uses ggs as guinea pigs”
sm:👁👁
I want cute concepts but ACTUAL GOOD CUTE CONCEPT -after school-
the ''school girl'' concept too, and then you see the stages full of old men GLPSFJASI
If you wanna see misogyny in kpop, just look at how SM treats Super Junior compared to SNSD.
Excuse me
1. Super junior fandom ELF raise their money and buy shares in sm
2. Super juniors put out their own pocket money for album making and music video. And not waiting for money from sm like their other artists
Kinderelf is coming...
@@invadero.o963??? Kinder what??? Elf??? Haha.. Because we told the truth so we were kinderelf?? Than please be mature don't embarrass yourself. Accept the fact that your beloved group is selfish and chooses to break up. Don't blame other groups who work hard to satisfy their fans by spending their own money for the album while your favourite group is selfish and leaves you.
@@Jojo-rc4em this entire comment section is giving me mysandrist vibe tbh
@@aloowalia2849 Exactly. And I'm bet they don't even know what is misandry 😂
About #3, I was watching Taeyong and Seulgi (forgive me if I spelled her name wrong) dancing to Make A Wish right. And I go into the comments and I see things like “other female idols are so stiff when they’re doing dance covers to male idols songs but not Seulgi” like tf that supposed to mean m’am? Maybe it’s because I’m not into kpop music as I should be or because of my limited knowledge but a lot of the comments gave me very misogynistic vibes idk. (And when I say I’m not into kpop music as I should be I mean I’ve been exposing my self to the problematic side of these kpop idols that I don’t even trust to listen to any of the songs without fearing that might’ve done something to others (which is pretty sad when you think about it))
not nctz*ns projecting their pick me misogyny on seulgi 😭😭😭😭😭
NUMBER 8 IS SO TRUE!! and literally when ggs are given full albums a lot of the songs are filler, it's so sad (not all ggs but a lot). they usually look like this alsjdks
-intro
-title track
-one good bside
-ballad
-ballad 2.0
-title track (instrumental)
+ CAN I ALSO SAY the editing of your intro is so good and made me laugh a lot LMAO
bro y'all remember holland saying allot ALLOT of idols where homophobic, bro is besties with half the gg industry and bts, i am getting very very worried ngl
well he wouldn’t be besties with the homophobes so we can rule the girlies out
well in that case gg and bts are probably NOT homophobic while others are
aespa has had 3 singles and NO MINI YET and it’s been months in between their comebacks, i was thinking that aespa would have the same pattern of comebacks as red velvet in their debut/rookie era but i was wrong .... 😕 and now i’m praying to god that aespa gets a mini their next comeback or i’m gonna cry i need more aespa content i am starving .
ALSO YOU’RE SO RIGHT SM JUST REPACKAGED NCT DREAM’S HOT SAUCE ALBUM EVEN THOUGH IT WAS SO BAD WHILE AESPA SHOULD’VE HAD A MINI BY NOW BC THEY HAVE GOOD MUSIC!!! IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE THE ONLY ANSWER IS MISOGYNY .
Hot sauce album kinda slays tho
the thing that makes my blood boil is nct 127 had a mini album and aespa just DEBUTED WITH BLACK MAMBA
Aespa definitely deserved to have a mini album..... but the Hot sauce album is good af tho hahahhah
Chill they just debuted
I love how you never forgot to diss jessi in every video of yours
it's my brand!
also the fact that male kpop idols could literally commit a crime and their comments would be filled with support (yknow who im talking about) while they will drag female idols for making the wrong facial expression 🤡
i also feel like ggs get canceled so much more easily than boy groups. so many bgs have said and done similar things that these cancelled ggs have done yet they’re still thriving. i can think of more openly problematic ggs than bgs but that’s only bc girls are being held accountable (which rightfully so) while bgs aren’t. i feel like it’s bc the fandom has far more female stans and women place these men on pedestals and claim that they’re high and mighty and only pick out the good things to focus on. like sis, u are angry that gidle uses culture as a concept but u don’t hold bts accountable for doing the exact same thing. sowon was rightfully canceled for being an antisemite through ignorance yet y’all forget that bts had a sw@zika scandal too.
Sick of companies abandoning their women for men🙄
WE MISS PURPLEBECK BRING THEM BACK
I went to a purplebeck fanmeeting the other day and all of their hair colors had changed and they looked like they were at their dorm but I think there just getting some good rest. BUT I MISS PURPLEBECK TOO😭😭😩
I NEVER NOTICED IT TILL NOW (talking about 8). Like WHERE ARE THE FULL ALBUMS ⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️
finally someone said it. i blame verivery for gugudan's disbandment. as soon as they debuted jellyfish said fuck gugudan even tho they were doing pretty good. and the fact that verivery is even less popular than gugudan but still active??? misogyny
@@dogstarrules7433 i didn't talked shit about boys. i meant that their debut took away all poorly made gugudans promotion. if jellyfish gave gugudan the same promotion they do for verivery, gugudan would sell even more. companies tend to prefer to promote bg over gg but jellyfish didn't even promoted gugudan for last 2 years, which is completely different for verivery :))) so yeah as person who ults gugudan for 4 years i can be mad at verivery and jellyfish
normalize blaming everything on jay park and amber liu
@@caratarmy_lyla there was viral video showing a black man harassed and handcuffed on a subway platform by white police officers for eating a sandwich and amber qrted(?) the tweet saying "i think he deserved it, he was being super disrespectful. you don't have to act like that towards a police officer. a police officer is a police officer. you should still some type of respect. know your rights, but show some type of respect.”
bestie don't forget nct and bp.
Misogyny is when gfriend suddenly and abruptly got their contract terminated 5 months after their latest comeback
My 13th reason is how mino, bobby and this other flop from winner or ikon idgaf all had full albums with like 183929 songs and my girl rosé had 2 and jennie had 1
I'm so glad someone shares my opinion about men covering girl group dances. It has been over a year and I'm still SO enfuriated by that one Wannabe dance cover GOD that man ruined the dance!!! Do you see girl groups making boy group dances more feminine? Hell no they don't! Get a grip of your toxic masculinity lmaoooo
i already knew kpop community is misogynistic when i started stanning kpop idols, the netizens are just uhm... A MESS
Can y’all stop disbanding the girlies and disband the men?? Ty 😩🥰
how about disbanding nobody unless they want to 😭
@@dogilppdisband the men
why are there so many 2nd gen soloists collabs with jay park 😡
"Shinee, nct and jimin are here and queer" ily wtff 😩😩😩
HEHE
@@darshanpotdar7654 ...
@@darshanpotdar7654 i hate kpop
HLPPP IJFIODF
As always, your editing
✨top tier ✨ 😭
hehe
“let’s keep doing this actually” FHSJFND
The pie faces on the problematic girls had me dead, especially with Hwasa's n-word cover in the background and the messed up names.
knetz when a man does something 'cute': awww look at him! so cute
knetz when a women does something 'cute': PICK ME.
replace knetz with bg stans
OMG YES THE FIRST REASON IS SO TRUE. Like I always end up listening to the female version of a Collab song
ur right nugu ggs are carrying the cute concept and it’s crickets from kpop fans… it’s not sitting right with my spirit
NOT JESSI AND HYUNA COLLABFKDN
Point 3 needed to be said! Shout it from the rooftops! I remember bambam, BTS, etc "dancing" to girl group songs... All looked like parodies.
Feminism≠ to hating men. To all the people bashing boy groups we should be fighting for the women in the kpop industry to get better treatment but we shouldn't ask for the boygroups to get worse treatment. Please stop this! Your gender doesn't make you superior please stop!
I will never stop being pissed over the fact that some random rookie bgs got to perform at mama but weeekly who actually fcking won roty didn't?!
The misogyny is so obvious
bgs give the same thing every comeback and people love it...but when ggs reinvent themselves or come up with smt new fans always complain :/
the thing about #7 that makes me mad is that when gg's do get to perform, they get 3 minutes and just get to perform their most recent comebacks (even if their other comebacks from the year were better ex. gidle performing dumdi dumdi despite oh my god also coming out in 2020). with bg (even rookies bg's), they get to have a fancy intro and so much money put into their performances.
Loona dubbed themselves as a performance group so I think they work on the choreo more. They still manage to make good songs on their mini albums tho. I think that’s why they haven’t had a full album yet. Could be wrong tho
im actually crying. why do women always have it so bad, and yet men have it so good but still complain
I don't get why bg can't dances to gg songs, why is it so hard for them like they are so stiff. WHY?
the mama awards are the worst thing ive ever seen, even tho my favs appeared SIS WE NEED MORE GIRL GROUPS IVE SAW MEN ENOUGH
THEY GAVE KINGDOM TWO SEASONS AND THEY BOTH FLOPPED !! IM FURIOUS
your editing >>>>>>
hehe
1. I'm in love with your editing style and channel
2. FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT like the new MLD (Momoland's company)boy group give this boy with generic as music an music video budget that Momoland can only dream of, but my girlies here in the ready or not music video had the most BASIC music video (and says a LOT)
cherry bullet abandoned their video game concept and for WHAT????
to afford a comeback for nflopping!
Aloha Oe will never be better than Q&A🙄💅
We need more bgs disbanding NEOWWW.
Just disband Super Racist and bring back GFRIEND😫
sm giving flop boy groups full album after full album and then giving 2 digital singles to the pretty rookies that are smashing , its giving me anti woman 😥
@@dogstarrules7433 the thing is I don't disagree with ops comment. but you have to remember that nct (if op meant nct) are like million sellers with each album😭 but no its definitely not fair. every group should be given like a full album every 2 years in my opinion and like 2 mini albums in a year and maybe a single as well. but 1 song every couple of months????!!!! ELECTRIC CHAIR
instead of two mini-album can they give us a full album like gosh
and there's the problem of women in kpop not writing their own songs (specially in girlgroups)
This is why I’m not a kpop stan anymore, the misogyny is immaculate but I still Stan a few groups
On 3, I just want to say there are fans who think that the female covers of male groups aren’t better than the male groups’ original songs, but they think the male covers of female groups are better than the original version.
Like tbh, I prefer Twice’s FANCY to Stray Kidz’s version, because it just wasn’t really their style.
I agree, It was really plain and boring
@@moonie6368 Yeah, some of the members also felt uncomfortable, like Changbin and Felix.
Im actually scared that Nature might disband, but luckily they still post a lot of content in their youtube channel. btw, great video!
omg your point about male idols covering gg dances has bothered me for YEARS now,, the girlies actually put effort in covering the songs/dances and the male idols 99% of the time play it off as a joke and i hate it
no. 3 should be spoken about more!!! why tf are they over exaggerating and making fun of ggs dances while ggs put effort and take any bg/gg dance srsly
I’m so glad I found this channel I love the energy here. Idk when I subbed or why but I’m so glad I did whenever that was
sm gave us the biggest gg collab of all time, only to sing about how "big" their boy is xD.... literally i hate it.... i want an actual girl group collab now.