*Important* | I Wish I Knew This Before Starting WalMart Spark | What All Spark Drivers Should Know
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This is a super important tip for any driver who just started Walmart Spark or are thinking about signing up for Walmart Spark. This is a MUST SEE! Acceptance rate matters…
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It should be illegal to force you to do jobs when the expenses is all up to the driver.
Right! Whole point of being an Independent contractor. Punish people for not doing things the way Spark wants ugh
@@angelinah427 I just realized they stealing the tips too, keep records of the deliveries, is either that or the customers bait you with the tips
@@rafatorres1420rtboth
I’ve done over 100 deliveries, I haven’t got tip baited one time! You guys never worked customer service, are you just really bad at it.
Pretty sure it is
I'd never work for a company as a contractor and be treated like an employee. Hell to the NO.
I made so much money off them manipulate them let them cancel you if they say there's a long wait and try to resnag as an asap if you hit start trip on an asap you're in the clear on time doesn't count on them. Many people who do spark as more of a side platform use this strategy for two reasons you don't have to check in by a certain time and it's more likely to be ready when you do get there.
@budsodastories sorry can you explain this method more. I'm interested in doing spark
@whyisthisnottyping Yeah I'm not understand what he means by this‽
The fact that were even threatened with deactivation in the first place just tells me we aren’t really independent contractors were more like employees ☠️
@@nathanrivers4395employees with no hourly pay or protection by law. Don’t pay into social security so won’t be retiring off spark …oh and If you ever go to Drs no medical insurance.
To be honest it won’t matter. I have 0% acceptance rate and I still get orders. It depends on how the market is.
Yeah I agree with you !
Do not accept every round Robin I repeat do not!!!!
Agreed‼️
My shit at 2% and make $500 a week
That's the same as just working for walmart and saving your car..... if you're not making 1k+ on deliveries per week you need a different job (as someone who was a driver for 4 years on different apps and actual delivery positions at fast food places)
@uhpixr youre basing your reply on the assumption they worked 40+ hours a week. You'd say the same thing to me when i say i make 100 per week but i work less than 4 hours.
@uhpixr Also your your own boss, have the freedom to chose your jobs, do whatever you want in your car, & the part you don't have to worry about other employees. Dealing with other employees is the biggest for me always out working them, them complaining, & all the other bs that comes with working with others.
@@TrevynPlaysso you paying into social security off delivery? If not and make this your full time …you’ll be screwed come retiring time
@@iamtheiamwearealloneYou really think we are still going to get SSI when we get of age- with all the people they are letting into the country and the money they are giving out to other countries for wars that have nothing to do with us?
They dont care about acceptance rating now as long as it doesnt get extremely low. They mainly care about being on time and customer rating. Which being on time is stupid most of the time the order isnt ready when you get there.
Right! Orders be ready for pick up at a quarter til the hour, but Walmart has me waiting 15 more minutes, but spark pays you for waiting if the load isn’t ready.
I agree, I only accept orders that are worth doing. It’s frustrating to know that people are busy and here I am waiting on offers to appear on my screen.😢
Yup just found this out. U gotta keep 40% or higher acceptance rating to have them keep sending you orders. Complete bs it’s illegal because as independent contractor we are supposed to be able to decline whatever we want without penalty because we aren’t employees.
I agree… & so many ppl told me I was wrong, but it’s right there in the app. Unbelievable
@@GigMom yup, literally and I’ve had customer service reps tell me this is why I don’t get orders. I have an acceptance rate of like 7% because they constantly send me shit that either a)equates to operating at a loss or b) won’t even fit in my car. But because I don’t accept the orders as much s they want (which again is ILLEGAL) I can’t get any orders. It’s a catch 22. Why despite being on the platform
Since 2020 I literally only have 33 deliveries
How do they get away with it… they send me crap too
@@GigMom what dollar amounts are ya'll getting?
@@jamessparks7650 as stated above it’s literally stated in the app, however if you are in a busy major market(think larger cities) you can generally ignore the 40% rule. As your market is busy enough that it doesn’t matter what spark wants to do they got more orders coming in than they can afford to let sit because of a drivers acceptance rate
Not only that- wait time goes by your arrival as well! Was unaware once you except an offer you had to be there within 15 minutes - was told I would be reimbursed for a 30 minute wait time and was just told that because I got there in 16 minutes I was not going to get it! Definitely looking to see if this gig is really worth it!
I'm a UPS driver without a route and forced to work midnight + twilight shift inside the building until further notice if I want my hours so I'm gonna try out this Spark shit 🙌
great...more newbies
@coreyrich420 haha Well so far I can't even get past the 1st freakin step cuz people like you are hogging up all the work so "your area is full" is all I got so far 💩
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Thank you. Just signed up today. Waiting for background check or something like that. Thank you 🙏🏻
My ACCEPTANCE RATE is 98% right now. My ON-TIME ARRIVAL is 96% this week paycheck is $LOVELY 🙂
Awesome!!
My acceptance rate is 0 and o time rate is 100. My paycheck is lovely also. Market does matter though.
Let us see
I agree
Prob uses bots and it’s the reason the rest are struggling 😮
All gig work is the same. Push the bad cost of doing business onto the driver
This about sums it up.
the acceptance rate resets after a month or so ive had bad ones and its always resets its your own personal preference so they not gonna damage u for it ive been a spark driver for almost 2 years now
Making decent money?
They can’t use acceptance rate against you, it’s been ruled on in court. If you think they are, get an attorney and get that money
They say in the app that you will get better offers, the higher your acceptance ratings. 🤷♀️
@@GigMom I wonder if it’s just mind games, because I’m fairly certain that would be in violation of that ruling, guess I’ll find out lol
A lot of us have tested it out and then standing in the same area at the time the orders drop and it’s always the person who has the highest acceptance rate that gets the highest paying orders sent to their phone. It’s crazy.
@@GigMom Damn, I’m sure that’s gonna bite them and in turn bite us
@@GigMom Damn, I’m sure that’s gonna bite them and in turn bite us
Good to know
Yesterday was my first day so thank you for this!!!
You’re welcome! How did it go?
@@GigMom It went great! It’s crazy easy. I hit over $200 in bonuses alone between Fri & Sun. A beautiful thing 😊😊 and Thank you for asking.
Yep
With Shipt it did matter but they just took that out! maybe later they’ll get rid of it when their pay starts sucking and no one wants to take them.
Thank you I just started … very helpful… get your rate up… you’ll get there!!🤜🤛
Glad it helped!
Sounds like being taken advantage of, and being held hostage to their manipulation tactics. Sounds just like any other gig platform. Where drivers are used to make the others "rich" at the drivers' expense. That sounds about right. I read a comment once on a door dash platform that the guy said, "gig platforms" are the biggest scam ever! Think he's on to something.
This is 💯% Facts!
Biggest scam? Make others rich? Sounds like you do it wrong. $330 a day for me. I make money hand over fist. And do give that crap about auto wear and tear. I factor that into my daily goal. $20 for gas, $50 for future auto repair, $10 for food and drink, $250 in my pocket. Taxes are nothing when you own an llc
@@jorgemarquez7911 finally got approved. Going to start it up this week. How many hours a day do you work?
@@jarrydcabrera1743 I work til I get at least my goal of 330. So hours vary.
@@jarrydcabrera1743 your first week you can make 2500 easily
Omg girl thank you!
You’re welcome!
As an independent contractor this wrong, you should always have the ability to choose what you deliver.
Also Tip-Baiting should be addressed
Just learned this too. I’m getting my metrics back up
I'm at 10% and I stay pretty busy.
Good to know!
Are you in California
I’m in Florida
Lol 😂
Same!
Thanks so much , love u for this
You’re welcome! 😉
Did you know that when offer cards are stacked, it indicates a batched order?
So true mine at 24 only get 5 orders a day when I was getting 12 a day
With DoorDash your AR matters!! The higher it is…The better offers u get!!!
Problem is you won't make any money doing that... Best advice I can give is to multi app, and stop taking trash all drivers and maybe just maybe they will be forced to stop making independent contractors worry about bullshit metrics!
This must have changed because in my zone it doesn’t matter. I have one of the highest ar rates and I get the offers they don’t want or reject. Literally one person I was parked next to last week had a 38% and she got offers before me and better offers. So it must have changed.
I wish I knew they pay $3 per order to deliver 3 cases of water up to 3rd floor apartment
The acceptance rate doesn’t matter . For some reason fcfs is effecting metrics
All depends on the market mine it's only 15 % and I get alot order
Jeremihtechz
On instagram
programmed a software for me that generates high paying orders with great tips. I have been using it for a long time and it is amazing.
I’m at %6 and very busy 😊
It depends on your market as well I believe if there are more drivers then order then ya metrics may matter. May area seems pretty even but when I got to 50% it seems they tip better lol
Just don't decline just let it time.out
You're totally right.. My acceptance rate is low and I rarely see orders but I can't take just any order.. Especially having a smaller car. Around my market they will try to send you 12+ miles with a huge order and the pay isn't great for the distance and work
That’s my problem. I got a 7% acceptance rate because either the order is just absolutely ridiculous. Like under a dollar a mile, 100 items, or order simply doesn’t fit into my car. Which is also dumb because they have all our car infos on file so they know what kinda car we are driving yet they don’t care will still send nonsense our way
@@robert907 I have noticed this has gotten better.. I'm not sure what my AR is right now but I still reject things I just will not do. But I see some decent offers. The best offers are the shop/deliver but you have to kind of weed those out too
Yes, I love the shop & deliver!
I will be on 50% on monday , i made pretty much 280$ for 6.30 hours and 347$ once, rest of the days i check on it and see if its a good order then only i will pick it by the end of the week my rating is back to 0-4 percent , back on monday again i will to 40-50%, full time on any of these gig works are a big waste of time, last night i went saw a surge worst orders btw no one picked them up and walmart suddenly decided to drop a round robinhood order of 19 dropps for 34$ for almost 56 miles lol , sometimes looking at these orders i feel are we working for free for the customer vise verse
If you look at your metrics toward the bottom.. It tells you that your acceptance rate will not affect you getting orders. My acceptance rate is below 20% and I still get orders. You are an independent contractor and you DO NOT have to accept every order. Period.
My acceptance rate is 8% rn and I haven’t had an order in like 4 straight fucking days. Shit is pissing me off especially when I was grocery shopping the day I wasn’t working and I saw drivers shopping inside. I’ve been making over 1K every week for about 3 months now and it looks like everyone is doing spark to where there’s less offers like bruh you grown stick to your real job
If this is the case
The advice ought to be IMO
Hey guys if u thinking to get into spark… just DONT
I’m getting into deliveries again I’m thinking door dash tho
Am I wrong?
I don’t like how Uber eats people can change there tip rates after u drop off the package that doesn’t happen often so I hear but what knucklehead at Uber thot that was a good idea!?
Right
It matters with DoorDash, too.
Door dash does the same thing 😮
That's why I do uber eats is easier and don't have to deal with those heavy cases of water. finally you can decline orders and it won't count against you
Ubereats..AR is critical, it matters. Same as doordash
Wth is a round Robin order? They actually expect me to drive 30 minutes to another walmart when I'm sitting at my local one?
An order they send just for you & not to any other driver, the notification will say There is 1 order for you to accept by…. I know right! When I first started they were sending me offers for stores 2 towns over 🤦♀️ thankfully they changed my area & made it smaller.
Question to do spark is a car require or can I have a bike like uber eats?
100% On Time Arrival, 0% Drop Rate, 88% Acceptance Rate, and 4.6 Customer Rating
Great info!! What is a round Robin? I haven't seen that term on their website. Knowing me o overlooked it.
It’s under offers section in the FAQ’s. It’s basically an order that they send directly to you and no one else. It’s the order they said that isn’t a First Come first.
@@GigMom how do I know if it’s a round ribbon offer does it say?
It doesn’t quite say, but the push notification will say “There is 1 offer….” Those are round robins, the first come first are not.
@@GigMom thank you!
@@jasonloera3358 you’re welcome!
Hey, quick question! I took note of ur advice here... went to sign up for the first time (free time now since son started kindergarten) well it says my area is "full" should I just keep checking back or just sign up anyhow thru a non preferred area in hopes I can change it later? Thx for ur time!🤠💕
I personally would wait til your area opens because I haven’t heard good things about switching zones. Anytime! 😉
@@GigMom WOW, thx for the SUPER FAST response!!! Will do then... I will check back every hour or so... U rock.... I appreciate ya!!!🤠💕
Wish I had know this also. Barely my second week delivering and I’m at 20%. I haven’t been getting barely any orders FML!!!
It’s ridiculous isn’t it.
@@GigMom yes I’m soo annoyed! Not to mention they also keep calling me “doordash”🤣😭 when I tell them no, it’s spark they honestly have no clue what I’m talking about and will still walk away like doordash is here🤬
@@GigMom that’s not even the worst of it. I just started and I’m already done with them lol
Mines at a 32 percent for 35 delivers so far.
That would make you an employee rather an independent. No worries this will not last long as it will be challenged and they will start doing it like the others.
I think it depends on the market. Once I hit 40% I get less offers and bad offers.
I try to keep it at a specific range. I'm at 4% right now because I was lowering my AR last week and it was busy yesterday.
Today I still got some orders, with decent tips. Made over $100. But I did have a two hour dead time today which rarely happens for me. I'm usually on the next order within minutes of finishing an order.
I think drivers should just feel the market. But I got most offers at certain AR range.
You should be able to set preferences
I did it for two years my tip is get a real job your beating your car to worthless that's my warning
I appreciate your feedback, thank you! I’ve been doing gigwork FT for over 4yrs, so I personally consider it a real job since I pay my taxes & my bills with what I earn from it. I was fortunate enough to get my car just for doing gigwork & was able to get extra warranty because of that, but I can definitely see where you’re coming from. If I didn’t have the car I have, I wouldn’t feel the same way…Not to mention how unpredictable it can be.
According to the TOS in the app itself, it does not matter.
I applied in Feb and finally got put all the way through, Nov 4th. I enjoy the instore pickups, i have a laundry basket in my front seat❤️
Next order u get take the grocery home screw app they screw your time
So does getting your acceptance rate up = more quality orders ? Trying to determine if taking these bad orders is worth it . Spark seems like it could be a lucrative gig once you learn how to navigate through the hurdles
That’s what they say, but I’m not so sure I notice a difference when it’s super busy. It can definitely be lucrative, especially with all the incentives they have!
That’s why I quit driving for them. They wanted me to drive 30 miles to another town and pick up groceries for 3-4 different houses for pennies??? 😮
Acceptance rate does matter on spark if you are in a saturated market. In my market I can always get 1-6 offers in a hour period as Robin's. I average 6%-40% since I dk t tske every order. What I noticed is staying active om the platform helps keep getting u orders dropping orders plus a major role and will deprioritize u on orders.
I guess it kind of depends on the market like you said. I haven’t been excepting a lot of orders because of the whole tip baiting thing that’s been going on and my acceptance rate is horrible but I did get a $53 Sam’s Club order even though I have a bad acceptance rate. I seem to get a lot of well-paying Sam’s Club orders for some reason. I used to think it matters and I still do to a point but I can’t understand why I would get these orders as opposed to somebody with a better acceptance rate. And round robins too, super easy.
@geraldineokeke3422 sometimes you gotta do whT you gotta do gotta adapt to survive
Wow, I didn't have a clue. I thought it was all first come first serve.
It still is.
Can you just deliver on the weekends?
Ummm.... I think that's illegal as hell, but you have supported my point, I am at 16% acceptance. They keep incentivizing me but don't send me offers. I cannot wait until spring break kicks in around here and Spark becomes desperate ~snicker~ They're going to have to come up off some cash to get me to get back on board!
Yes, I agree & I remember you just said this the other day & now I’m in the same boat. I’m curious to see how the weekend goes tho. 🤦♀️
Those ones with the timers are what’s bringing it down
Your smoking zaza 🍃 I still get hella orders with a 14% acceptance rate making $500+ a week. Walmart won’t catch me lackin driving 14 miles for $15
I guess being your own boss doesn't matter, like managing your business is not a concept they favor? Thanks for reminding me of their class action lawsuits for screwing over their employees for work related injuries. I'm not a very good slave. I prefer to be free.
Mine is at 96% but I live in a small town and it's been super slow the past week or so
What's a round Roben order
East Peoria
Dont accept exploitive offers. They might penalized you for not doing $5/hr trips? Multi-app !
Have you gotten the latest bot form spark ? You can make $2500 weekly
Oh yeah? What’s it called?
@@GigMom omortech
What is round robins
My acceptance rate was 0 and they keep sending me orders
Same
Does this company give you a paper that shows tips paid and deliverys and mileage
I haven’t seen the mileage listed on anything other than the offer screen , but they have 2 different apps besides the driver app where you can get all the other info
Why should it count when they offer up stores that are 20 miles from where you are and get delivered 10 more miles from that far away store?
They have since changed it in my area, but I e heard others still complain about it. 🤷♀️
The app literally says acceptance rate dosnt matter or effect you receiving orders. However I’m new so thing may have changed
Under the ratings when it explains each one, it says it can affect the orders they send us.
Yesterday I waiting at Sam's for 30 minutes for curbside. I asked a girl loading, she checked her handheld & said it's still being shopped. Theeeeeee Fuck 😂 so annoying 😑
Just keep orange or green. Red is bad and has a sad face next to it below 40 is orange above 40 is green red is . I r
Pretty low 5 or below
Well that sucks. I just got accepted to be a driver and I logged on to see what it was like and was surprised it was giving me 7 orders at once! I was like how in the world would that fit in my car!?!? And 20 miles??? Is that one way or round trip?
That’s the in store pick ups. I don’t like those… I believe it’s one way.
@@GigMom lol I’m scared to turn the app back on now! I saw another video that’s made the scanning process look like a disaster!
It can if you don’t know what you’re doing, & that’s what I’m here for, to help! Sometimes the labels won’t scan but everything matches up, so you have to enter it manually. Lmk if you need more info!
@@GigMom I mean like when you have to scan the orders with the customers name. I think I saw on your video or maybe it was someone else’s where it was crazy and wasn’t working it Idunno and there were several customers orders
Oh wait I just watched it again and it didn’t seem too hard lol. So you can enter in the customer info and number manually?
Also how do you scan when it’s curbside? Just get out and go to your trunk before you leave?
It doesn't matter as much as you think it does. I made more money when my acceptance rate was much lower. Now that my acceptance rate is much higher, they give me crappy orders now.
Yeah I kno that now 😉
@@GigMom OK. All these gig jobs sit around and try to figure out how to pay you less money.
What if you just let the order expire and not decline it ? Will that count as a decline still?
I never decline them, I always let them expire, but yes, it still counts against your acceptance rating.
I have done a lotta research, and some of those third-party apps aren’t as worth it
Like doordash i will not accept every order
So we are NOT independent contractors
Well in that case they should pay a basement salary plus tips plus miles , because when they’re telling you because you don’t take all the rides we sent you’re not making enough money they have to pay you a salary that’s what it should be if you’re being forced to take SHITY DELIVERYS , if you want me to do that shit at least pay me decently
how do you get accepted into spark. No help with processing application
It takes a while depending on your area..
What’s Round Robin? I just did Spark today for the first time. Will it say “Round Robin”?
No, it’s the one with the timer they send just for you
63 Orders
Cool. How much are you making a week and how many hours are you working?
It only matters if you are in a slow market. I have had a zero AR and still got multiple orders.
Ohhh,you so bad,like bad to the 🦴!!
How can you have 0% Ar, but take multiple orders? Someone is exaggerating just a little, No?
@@someguy9185 no exaggeration. Just say your market is trash!
@@latobylee1324 That explains everything
That's a Tear 🦵 Knee good luck to those who take that initiative because there's no way going up to the third floor second floors hell no and I'm not talking about one time you have to go at least sometimes 5 to 6 trips
So you’re saying forget knowing your worth n’ keep them in control?
What?
stick with Amazon flex or Uber..💯
AR 54%
how do u kno witch are round Robin's
Round robins are the ones with a count down time on them
Not anymore
Round robin and ASAP orders effect your acceptance rates.
Nope, just the round robins. It says so right in the app.
@@GigMom That is what I was told from spark yesterday on the phone. Ask them about it.
The app says...This metric looks at the number of offers you accepted out of the total number of offers you received when you are available or have ‘Spark Now’ turned-on. (This does not include First Come First Serve or Surge pricing offers).
Notice that it doesn't say round robins and ASAP orders in that list of what it doesn't include?!
@@SalohcinDranreb I’m sure they did tell you that. Support has told me plenty of false things. The only way an ASAP goes towards acceptance rate is if it has a timer, which makes it a round robin. I have gotten round robins that were ASAP before, but just a first come first serve ASAP does not effect it whatsoever.
AR does not matter. I caught my biggest offer at my lowest AR
Same
It doesn't anymore
not really my metric are almost perfect and for the past 3 days I haven’t received orders, for example yesterday all day and I only had 3 order
I’ve had issues like this sometimes & a lot of it is the app glitches & also someone told me that if sum1 from a store doesn’t like you, they can ban you from that store. Idk if it’s permanent or temporary. Did you reach out to Spark about it or report the issue thru the app?