Pfft they would never it just happened to in my town 4 cars dead no liability on anyone besides the driver I gotta fix a car before dead of winter that got some poor gas she luckily made it home
It’s what one gets in a state with no fuel quality program. Quality stations in Texas often have a state office phone number posted to report pricing deviations but one can also report quality of the gas ie water. Some station owners have been known to add water to the in ground tanks to increase profit but many times after flooding or construction on nearby land, water runoff will seep in to unprotected underground tanks. Best advice is cheapest gas is not always the wise choice and one should if possible buy the best quality and highest octane available.
It's on the station to monitor their product. like selling bad milk. If they get bad gas they should then go after the supplier. They should also carry insurance for this, as they have to have insurance to cover gasoline storage anyway.
@auklon3372 actually the person that is elected the classes rep is who gets the millions. The rest just get an agreed upon settlement and future judgements determine if the rep has to pay the lawyers or if the defendant does.
I could easily end a class action on this with a simple question....DID....YOU...SEE...OR....SMELL PETROL, DIESEL, OR ANY OTHER FLAMMABLE FUELS AT THE STATION
@ I mean it got as high as $4.70 a gallon at the end of Trump’s term so if anything this is the lowest it’s been in quite a while. I wanna go back to the $.99 a gallon it was at the end of Obama’s presidency. But I drive in EV now so I don’t have to worry about it to begin with
@@NintendoBoy64 how do you propose doing that we all start acting like a really clingy date and hover around politicians sides at all times and throw a hizzy fit and cause a scene whenever said politician is approached by competing lobbyists? Last I checked one needed a bank account to maintain a relationship with a politician otherwise you'll be escorted out their office, place of residence, or even anywhere on public grounds courtesy of law infarcers (spelled wrong deliberately). The proletariat should never question those they vote for only that they vote for someone who knows best as put forth every election cycle out of the best crooks ahem I mean best of folks ever to grace the world.
@@NintendoBoy64supposedly we are. The only reason lobbying is legal is because supposedly without it we wouldn't be able to talk to our politicians. Even though it's their job to listen to us. Like I said lobbying is just the word for legal bribery.
I been saying that for years but democrat shills like it. I call democrats out because I spoke with a democrat representative at a voting booth one year and he explained why "lobbying is good".
@@RemainNameless614 I did, I don't remember them saying any business names. Maybe I wasn't paying attention close enough. Could have been mentioning names when i was commenting and missed it.
They didn't name a business but they did show pictures of Sunoco. Even when they were looking at the gas pump there was the Sunoco logo. Maybe because of legal issues they can't specifically say a certain business but they showed it in their video.
Take them to court for the damages. Just because the state can't do anything does not mean that you can't. Get a lawyer. The gas pumps are open. Pay for a gallon and fill a container to take to court. You pay for gas. Not Water.... Get a receipt every time you fill up. If you suspect a pump has water and damaged your car, fill up a container and go from there. Having the receipt as well as a sample would take you a long way.
Unfortunately, you cannot self-audit a company you already have a bias towards. The court has no way to confirm where the gas that damaged the car came from, or that you didn't add your own water to the container to skew the results against a particular station to make them pay for damages they may not have caused. This is why consumer protection agencies exist, for licensed non-biased quality testing that is court admissible. Dealt with quite similar situation with sludge in tap water ruining appliances and jars of funk water I could have collected from road runoff.
Alcohol should have NEVER been added to our gas. Not only does it absorb water, it lowers your gas mileage and does absolutely nothing for positive for the environment. The new UDF on Blue rock in Colerain offers alcohol free gas. At least a 10 % mileage increase, and especially on small motors, a big performance increase.
I normally use ethanol free gas when I learned about it except in rental cars. Right now though I am going back to 87 with 10% ethanol just to save on money so I can pay off this junk car asap. Once I get a newer car then I'll go back to using ethanol free. There's a $1 difference per gallon in the cost which adds up quick and the fuel economy and horsepower increase isn't that great especially in a v6. I am getting maybe 1-2 mpg more with 91 ethanol free vs 87. I had a 2.5l Dodge Dart previously which had spark plug issues whenever I would fill up with 87 yet would be fine on 91 ethanol free. No clue what was going on there.
That is not the cause of this particular problem. No way that 90% by volume water would have come from dew point absorption. It is likely a leak in the storage tank allowing ground or rainwater water in. That means they are polluting the ground water with gasoline which is a big EPA and Ohio EPA fine. They are not likely purposefully adding that much water as they would hydrolock 500 customers that week and be out of business. Just poor management
@@STho205 You are correct, I was kinda venting on the ethanol issue. Before about 2010 our gas would last up to 1 year before going bad, now it lasts about 3 to 4 months. What changed back then ?
@@toomanyaccountsDid you know gas stations don't make money off of gas? The pumps are actually leased to the oil companies. They make money off of what's inside the convenience store. So it would actually be the oil companies that would want to sell water. Because they're the one making the profit.
@@MamaMOB wrong they on average make 15 cents a gallon. they make money by selling in volume. if the oil companies wanted to sell water they wouldn't allow the testing in any state. the gas stations that allow water in the gas tanks means they don't have to buy gas as much hence they make more money. so it is the gas stations. less water means more gas ordered from the gas companies
There is also ANOTHER issue with the gas pumps with ONE hose for 3 grades. If the last customer purchased 87 octane and the next purchases 93, the first maybe 1/4-1/2 gallon may be 87 octane.
@@Seer645 very true set gas became so high I actually left the holes and empty the holes before I put it back but a lot of people don't so you are getting a hose full of whatever great gas was pumped last
I think it’s less but I doubt it will do any harm to your engine unless it’s constantly running on the incorrect octane rating then you should be fine. The only thing you gotta watch out for is how much ethanol you’re putting in the car
@@livefree1338 thanks I did not know one could drain the hose. The issue would be possibly over filling but this would not be an issue in my 4/4 ton pick up as it has a large tank I rarely top off.
I don’t like it! it’s too distracting from the story. I’m hearing lots of drumbeats instead of what’s being said. They could’ve lowered the volume on the music music. 🎶 But somebody in the mixing dept wanted attention instead of the story being the focus.
Quantity inspections only. That means that if its pumping water, its not providing 1 gallon of gas, which means it is an improper quantity. If you are going to test volume, you have to make sure you are testing the volume of the correct substance. That is not testing for quality, it is simply verifying what you are testing.\ Getting water means you are not getting gasoline. Bad gasoline is not the same as no gasoline.
I haul fuel and most underground tanks have 2 to 6 inches of water in the bottom, some even 12 inches, if you only knew how fucked up the gas industry really was.... most of the station owners dont even know how to check for water
Some water in the supply tank is expected, it just needs to be removed once in a while. Water and gasoline are immisible, so they can avoid drawing from the very bottom and no water reaches the pump unless something is very fucked up.
And why would they? That's on the oil company. How do people not know that the gas tanks and pumps are leased by the oil company? The gas station makes money off of what's inside the gas station. The oil company makes the money off of the pumps. The owner of the gas station wouldn't give a flying fuck about what's going on with the gas because they just sell it for the oil company.
@@MNDashcamfor what? Seriously for what? In Ohio it's literally against the law to test for quality of gas. So what are you suing them for? Following the law?
As a fuel hauler we stick tanks for volume and to check for water. If i see water in the tanks, it gets reported not only to my company, but i also inform someone in the gas station of it.
they should already be legally liable... the only problem is how much effort you want to put into pursuing it. also its the local station not the gas company.
@@TheObsesedAnimeFreaksNo it's not. You people really need to learn how gas stations work. The gas station owns the building and what's inside it. The oil company leases to the gas station owner the name and the gas pumps. It's the oil company who owns the gas pumps. The oil company is the one that makes the profit off of the gas. So it's the oil company that benefits from testing only for quantity and not for quality. Because then they can sell you water and not gas. As long as they're selling you 5 gallons of liquid they make money off of you. The gas station doesn't see a dime from gas sales.
For their own reputation. Individual gas station owners should check their tanks regularly and advertise that. I can see this as a business opportunity. If your station or chain of stations have a reputation of checking the gas for quality. You will get the business far more than other businesses.
For real, even if you have to raise prices to make sure that you cover the costs. Sounds like a great marketing idea by putting a sign stating that you actually care about quality which is why it costs more.
@@Midala87there should be no costs worthy of price increases. Testing tanks daily takes only a long stick and a tube of water detection goop. That's it.
You don’t get it, the station owners stand to make very little per gallon. Now if the gas contains 15% ethanol, well thar ethanol will absorb approx 1:1 of water, so you add 15% water to the tank and now you have many more gallons to sell at tge same price. This practice has gone on for some time - I carry a coke bottle to test whwere I fill up, I have found some stations as much as 50% non fuel
So if the municipalities and state are not interested in quality control and protecting consumers, appears that there indeed is corruption. Why woukd you not want ro protect consumers against fraud?
I just don't buy gas in Ohio. In fact I do the speed limit and drive all the way through Ohio without stopping for anything but bathroom breaks at rest stops. Ohio is corrupt.
If there are decent stations that would preform testing they can advertise they have verified good gas and thus get a bigger majority of the customers. Take away business from the bad stations. its pretty simple. I would use a verified gas station over a non verified.
Nobody goes out of their way to patronize a certain gas station. You go to whichever is nearest and cheapest because you’re a captive customer. The unfettered free market does not work. If you want that, go to a third world country.
@@ferretyluv Its a choice to pay attention to where you go. Unless I am traveling out of state There are certain places I will get gas because I know they periodically test for water contaminates. If you dont know you should find out which those are. If you dont care, I guess go to the closest.
@ If you’re out of gas, you don’t have a choice to go 20 minutes away to the place near your house where you know the owner. You’re a captive customer. And they could be lying and say they test their gas. Unless the state does it you don’t know for sure.
We have a station in NJ that has been repeatedly Closed and Fined over this.When they reopen, They continue to Test the Gasoline. It keeps happening. 1st time they said was due to a Flood. The 2nd? Never heard.
This is a common issue across the board, the state working against the people. Politricksters are everywhere. So why do we vote if the politicians in the United States gonna do the opposite of what they promise in their campaign? Lobbying should be against the law and any politician does so should be charged for treason.
Would you rather it be like China or North Korea? I mean I agree with you that lobbying should be illegal since it's just bribery under a different name but the idea of what's the point to voting is ridiculous. We have countries where you're not allowed to vote and they're so much worse than the US.
Keep your receipt file a lawsuit on the gas station for damages the attorney should have the fuel station tested if they have water in the fuel the station is guilty of damages and fruad. The state should be sued for allowing these practices to occur after continuing to be informed on the situation.
There is several ways for them to test gas. The main one is called fuel separation paste. There is more ways like dipping tanks, new computer monitoring is oil companies that will come and test your tanks for relatively cheap. The good faith of these station owners just dont want to spend time or money when not enforced.
Who owns the station? They should arrested and station closed down. No brainer ...but why wouldn't they do it?? Why aren't they being sued?;,I dont get it.
Hamilton County Ohio Sheriff refusing to perform the duties of her duties of her office Pat Dressings and Mike DeWine covered up for county employees not sending files to ODRC and APA covered up for years
I don’t believe that the water in the gas is being hauled there by the tanker. It is getting water from the tank in the ground because overtime water can seep into that tank that’s where the water is coming from. it’s not being hauled in.
I don't understand why it's so hard to do the right thing and stop doing the bad things common sense. All you people knowing problems but never do the right thing you'll answer someday for it.
Sue the gas stations owners and corps for false advertisement. It may be currently legal for them to use water as a volume replacement in those states, but it's illegal for them to not inform the consumer. They advertise fuel at a certain price per gallon. If you pay for 13 gallons of Unleaded fuel, but receive 4 gallons of Unleaded + 9 gallons of water, that's misleading and illegal. Once they start having to reimburse customers for more than just auto repairs, the risk won't be worth the profiteering.
When I hear people say i cant test it i hear I dont want to try. The remedy to this is you can test it. Take a gas jug to the gas station and pump a small amount of gas into it first. Look at it. pour it into a clear container. If its water then don't pump that garbage into your vehicle. I mean it doesn't take a chemist or a certified technician to see if water is in gasoline.
@@thepotatoofheaven Water usually gets in from improperly secured caps or from a bad well drain that doesn't allow the well to be drained before the fill cap is removed.
actually there is a way to see if you are getting gas over water, that is to use a gas can. fill the gas can take it home pour some into a clear container and wait for it to settle. or get some of that paste that one station own uses and test it that way.
Do you not drive or something? That’s not practical and you still have to spend extra money to test it. You’re also not allowed to put gas into a container that’s not specified to hold gas. So if you’re not putting gas into a gas tank or one of those red gas cans, you’re breaking the law.
Just saying, I’ve never had a problem with this anywhere. These complaints are all from the Cincinnati area, it’s not like every filling station in the state has problems with water in their gas.
When the rules and laws fail, it is the civic duty of the citizen to take matters into their own hands. You are supposed to have protections from stuff like this. You are not being provided the protection. So you must protect yourselves. You are under attack. Defend yourselves.
For the Ohioans that live on the borders, they can go to the next state(s) over. IN, KY, MI, WV, and PA has gas quality testing. For those that live in the middle, it may be time to get a testing kit and a small fuel container to do their own testing.
I can tell you.... quality testing doesn't do much when it comes to a certain gas station about 10 miles north of the Michigan/Ohio border. Every time someone stops into the parts store I work at and they state they just filled up and their vehicle runs like crap... we always say the name of the station and they confirm it's where they bought fuel. I don't know HOW the station has stayed in business as many years as it has.
Here’s what you do. Keep a bottle of dry gas with you and use it at every fill up. It’s called Heet or IsoHeet. It’s basically alcohol which displaces water . Next carry octane booster as well. This should get a tank of questionable fuel to at least burn. Ideally you wanna fill up before crossing into Ohio, but I can say when I fueled up in the Dayton area I never got bad gas
nobody should hafta do all that... let alone buy additives just to make it minimally acceptable just to make it run. Besides, buying HEET or iopropyl alchohol addatives is redundant... modern gas is required to have at least 10% ethanol in it.. that's 10% alcohol already.. that tiny bottle will make no difference except to your wallet. and it will not do anything if it's 90% water like in all these examples. The problem is the Ohio Democrats who don't want to allow them to test for bad fuel. Especially when it's a common, well known problem... why wouldn't they want to make sure it's actually gas? could it be that politicians are being paid off by big oil (as they said) to stop them from voting to protect the consumers? Maybe because when there's bad or contaminated gas around the country from storms etc... it's easier to truck it & sell it to Ohio instead of losing all that money because it's contaminated. Why are the Democrats in the state fighting to stop the ability to protect consumers? spending more money on addatives just to make what you already paid for barely acceptable? doesn't sound like a good plan.
I’ve lived here all my life, I’ve never gotten bad gas nor heard of anybody getting it before now. People will hear one story about something and start acting like it’s an issue that everyone on earth is dealing with on a daily basis.
When will you political nut jobs understand, It doesn't matter who is in office. As long as their pockets are filled they will tell you whatever you want to hear!
People like to think the station is crooks watering down their gas to increase profits. It dont work like that. Water & gas do not mix. they separate. Water, being heavier, will sink to the bottom of the tank. Where is the intake pipe in a gas station tank? At the bottom. Where is the intake pipe in your car gas tank? At the bottom. So the gas pumps suck up the water & pump it into your tank. The water was delivered to the gas station in the big gas tanker truck, Either the truck had water in its tank from cleaning? Or where he picked up his load had water in the tank. For cleaning? Who knows. Long story short - it is not the gas stations fault. Here in California, all gas stations must have a computer tank monitor which not only shows the level of the fuel but also reports if there is any water & if so, how much. @1" the tank monitor shuts all the pumps down until the water is pumped out. FYI the intake pipe to the pumps = 3" off the bottom of the tanks. !
This audit for testing the quality of the fuel should be at federal level so it's covered at all state level's. Hate lobbyists all they care about is there bottom line and nothing else
This happened to a friend of mine in Florida. Luckily he saved the receipt and the gas station reimbursed him, all 700 dollars for the mechanic to flush all the water out and engine diagnostic. Thankfully, no engine damage.
Is that why gas in Ohio is cheap? I was wondering what brought the prices down. It's water. Imagine trying to drive with a giant ice cube in your tank.
Same thing happened here in southwest Florida a while back. The only gas that didn't have water was Walmart gas station. Everyone else had water in the gas.
That’s why you don’t buy the cheapest gas you can find! Find the more expensive stations. I always get diesel fuel at the co-op station because they are $1.00 higher than anyone else. It’s more expensive but they use tons and tons of different fuel additives to make sure your engine will stay running properly. And they do have better quality than anyone else. My diesel truck gelled up last winter due to going to cheaper stations it gelled at 25 degrees Fahrenheit but when I’ve ran co-op fuel, it gelled up at-45 Fahrenheit. If you buy cheap gas than that’s on you.
I was a gas hauler for a short time. Sometimes the independent stations will order more regular than the regular tank will hold, and they tell the truck driver to put it in the premium.
Why isn't there a water separator with a sensor inside each pump? Every single pump at a filling station should have a sensor for that that shuts down the pumps if water is detected in the fuel.
Water can damage the engine due to water not as easy to compress like air is. If you hear knocking from the bottom of engine after water got in it you may need a new engine.
I'm curious as to who owns these gas stations. And what I mean by that is what nationality are the people doing this? I have my suspicions but they are just that right now. Also sounds like someone at the state level is getting some massive Kickbacks to allow this to happen, imagine that.
Wow. We never have this problem in Lego City. Our Octan fuel, be it Octan Unleaded, Octan Diesel, Octan Aquatic, or Octan Leaded Avgas for the Hindenbrick, has not now nor has it ever contained water. In fact, a good chunk of our fuel comes in via the dockyards, on ships, and has never contained even a drop of water. Have to feel sorry for Ohio, first the idiots array that was the train derailment and now years of bad fuel. People might as well just buy the crude and make the fuel themselves…. That is, if that’s even legal. Rockatoa, a very thankful to live in Lego City Brickticks out!
40 year auto mechanic here. I have had many cars come in over the years with straight water in the tank. I just remove the fuel line and just run the fuel pump until it runs out of fuel/water. Put in two gallons of new gas and run the pump again until straight gas is running out. Connect the fuel line again and start the car and let it run for about 20 minutes. Then completely fill the tank and it’s good to go. Never had another problem related to the water being in there. Shops replacing all fuel lines, fuel injector’s fuel regulator’s are just ripping people off and is totally unnecessary. Just taking advantage of people’s misfortune. I charge around $300 for the time involved. I have seen people with $2500.00 bills for repairs for water in the tank. A lot of shops/ dealers are scumbags.
The state of Ohio is the one that should pay these people back
Pfft they would never it just happened to in my town 4 cars dead no liability on anyone besides the driver I gotta fix a car before dead of winter that got some poor gas she luckily made it home
Vendors are responsible for the quality of the products they sell.
Companies spend good money on bribes, err I mean "campaign contributions", to prevent profit crushing regulations.
It’s what one gets in a state with no fuel quality program. Quality stations in Texas often have a state office phone number posted to report pricing deviations but one can also report quality of the gas ie water. Some station owners have been known to add water to the in ground tanks to increase profit but many times after flooding or construction on nearby land, water runoff will seep in to unprotected underground tanks. Best advice is cheapest gas is not always the wise choice and one should if possible buy the best quality and highest octane available.
It's on the station to monitor their product. like selling bad milk. If they get bad gas they should then go after the supplier. They should also carry insurance for this, as they have to have insurance to cover gasoline storage anyway.
Sounds like a class action lawsuit needs to be filled against the gas companies and the state politicians for allowing this to happen.
The only winner in class action lawsuits are the attorneys.
Better off getting your own legal representative, depending on the amount being sought.
@@auklon3372 right
@auklon3372 actually the person that is elected the classes rep is who gets the millions. The rest just get an agreed upon settlement and future judgements determine if the rep has to pay the lawyers or if the defendant does.
I could easily end a class action on this with a simple question....DID....YOU...SEE...OR....SMELL PETROL, DIESEL, OR ANY OTHER FLAMMABLE FUELS AT THE STATION
Not legally allowed to test for gas quality in 2024? Shame on you Ohio
Yeah, Hio! Shame on you!
Why would you ever not legally be allowed to test for gas quality? Who wrote that law?
@@MamaMOB the oil companies send their bad gas to States that don't allow gas testing and probably giving bribes to the legislators
It should be REQUIRED to test gas for quality letting gas companies get away with this is insane
that's why you look for the Top Tier Gas Detergent logo on your gas pumps
@ yeah all for the incredibly low price of 4 dollars per gallon
@@slapshotjack9806 I mean gas is only $2.95 a gallon right now here in Michigan
@ that’s very expensive still
@ I mean it got as high as $4.70 a gallon at the end of Trump’s term so if anything this is the lowest it’s been in quite a while. I wanna go back to the $.99 a gallon it was at the end of Obama’s presidency. But I drive in EV now so I don’t have to worry about it to begin with
This is also why lobbying should be outlawed. representatives should be making things better for their constituents, not their donors and lobbyist.
No, you got it wrong, we need to be the lobbyists
I agree with you 100%
@@NintendoBoy64 how do you propose doing that we all start acting like a really clingy date and hover around politicians sides at all times and throw a hizzy fit and cause a scene whenever said politician is approached by competing lobbyists? Last I checked one needed a bank account to maintain a relationship with a politician otherwise you'll be escorted out their office, place of residence, or even anywhere on public grounds courtesy of law infarcers (spelled wrong deliberately). The proletariat should never question those they vote for only that they vote for someone who knows best as put forth every election cycle out of the best crooks ahem I mean best of folks ever to grace the world.
Lobbying is just bribery under a different name.
@@NintendoBoy64supposedly we are. The only reason lobbying is legal is because supposedly without it we wouldn't be able to talk to our politicians. Even though it's their job to listen to us. Like I said lobbying is just the word for legal bribery.
Get a receipt every time you gas up.
What will that do? As long as they sell you a certain amount of liquid they've done their supposed job.
@@MamaMOB except you select the grade of gas before you pump if the gas doesn't match that grade its false advertising.
GET RID OF LOBBYING!!! IT"S JUST LEGAL BRIBERY!!!
MAKE IT A FELONY NOT JUST ILLEGAL!
I been saying that for years but democrat shills like it. I call democrats out because I spoke with a democrat representative at a voting booth one year and he explained why "lobbying is good".
Name the businesses so they can be boycotted out of business. If they screw the customer, they should go out of business, with prejudice.
Did you not watch the video?
Watch the video
@@RemainNameless614 I did, I don't remember them saying any business names. Maybe I wasn't paying attention close enough. Could have been mentioning names when i was commenting and missed it.
@DonCurrier it's literally in the first minute of the video, had you watched it.
They didn't name a business but they did show pictures of Sunoco. Even when they were looking at the gas pump there was the Sunoco logo. Maybe because of legal issues they can't specifically say a certain business but they showed it in their video.
Take them to court for the damages. Just because the state can't do anything does not mean that you can't. Get a lawyer. The gas pumps are open. Pay for a gallon and fill a container to take to court. You pay for gas. Not Water.... Get a receipt every time you fill up. If you suspect a pump has water and damaged your car, fill up a container and go from there. Having the receipt as well as a sample would take you a long way.
You have a lawyer in retainer?
Unfortunately, you cannot self-audit a company you already have a bias towards. The court has no way to confirm where the gas that damaged the car came from, or that you didn't add your own water to the container to skew the results against a particular station to make them pay for damages they may not have caused. This is why consumer protection agencies exist, for licensed non-biased quality testing that is court admissible. Dealt with quite similar situation with sludge in tap water ruining appliances and jars of funk water I could have collected from road runoff.
people don't have money to pay for a lawyer, even if they get reimbursed, who is to say they even have that money to begin with?
MAKE SURE YOU FILL ONLY APPROVED CONTAINERS AND KEEP IT ON THE GROUND AND NOT IN YOUR VEHICLE WHEN FILLING IT
@@justin6point7You can video yourself from start to finish with an empty container right out of the pump, and then sealing it.
Alcohol should have NEVER been added to our gas. Not only does it absorb water, it lowers your gas mileage and does absolutely nothing for positive for the environment. The new UDF on Blue rock in Colerain offers alcohol free gas. At least a 10 % mileage increase, and especially on small motors, a big performance increase.
But that does not make profit for the stock holders don't be silly.
I normally use ethanol free gas when I learned about it except in rental cars. Right now though I am going back to 87 with 10% ethanol just to save on money so I can pay off this junk car asap. Once I get a newer car then I'll go back to using ethanol free. There's a $1 difference per gallon in the cost which adds up quick and the fuel economy and horsepower increase isn't that great especially in a v6. I am getting maybe 1-2 mpg more with 91 ethanol free vs 87. I had a 2.5l Dodge Dart previously which had spark plug issues whenever I would fill up with 87 yet would be fine on 91 ethanol free. No clue what was going on there.
Some states ban ethanol from being mixed in with Gas. Oklahoma is one such state where it's vary hard to find that shitty mixed gas.
That is not the cause of this particular problem. No way that 90% by volume water would have come from dew point absorption.
It is likely a leak in the storage tank allowing ground or rainwater water in. That means they are polluting the ground water with gasoline which is a big EPA and Ohio EPA fine.
They are not likely purposefully adding that much water as they would hydrolock 500 customers that week and be out of business.
Just poor management
@@STho205 You are correct, I was kinda venting on the ethanol issue. Before about 2010 our gas would last up to 1 year before going bad, now it lasts about 3 to 4 months. What changed back then ?
Who has been blocking this bill? Gas Companies themselves?
Willing to bet your right. They probably lobbied politicians to not pass the bill.
gas stations. the gas companies want gas to be sold. a gas station would want to sell water.
@@toomanyaccountsDid you know gas stations don't make money off of gas? The pumps are actually leased to the oil companies. They make money off of what's inside the convenience store. So it would actually be the oil companies that would want to sell water. Because they're the one making the profit.
green energy lobby
@@MamaMOB wrong they on average make 15 cents a gallon. they make money by selling in volume. if the oil companies wanted to sell water they wouldn't allow the testing in any state. the gas stations that allow water in the gas tanks means they don't have to buy gas as much hence they make more money. so it is the gas stations.
less water means more gas ordered from the gas companies
There is also ANOTHER issue with the gas pumps with ONE hose for 3 grades. If the last customer purchased 87 octane and the next purchases 93, the first maybe 1/4-1/2 gallon may be 87 octane.
I've always wondered that myself
@@Seer645 very true set gas became so high I actually left the holes and empty the holes before I put it back but a lot of people don't so you are getting a hose full of whatever great gas was pumped last
I think it’s less but I doubt it will do any harm to your engine unless it’s constantly running on the incorrect octane rating then you should be fine. The only thing you gotta watch out for is how much ethanol you’re putting in the car
@@livefree1338 thanks I did not know one could drain the hose. The issue would be possibly over filling but this would not be an issue in my 4/4 ton pick up as it has a large tank I rarely top off.
That doesn’t really matter. Filling a 20 gallon tank and 1/2 gallon of 87 when you bought 93 means an average dilution of only 2.5%
Fire whoever added the background music
Dude... it's soooo dope! These guys are hip AF bruh.
Sounds like elevator music in a N64 game 😂
Yeah the thumbnail was dope af too
I don’t like it! it’s too distracting from the story. I’m hearing lots of drumbeats instead of what’s being said. They could’ve lowered the volume on the music music. 🎶 But somebody in the mixing dept wanted attention instead of the story being the focus.
😂
Quantity inspections only. That means that if its pumping water, its not providing 1 gallon of gas, which means it is an improper quantity.
If you are going to test volume, you have to make sure you are testing the volume of the correct substance.
That is not testing for quality, it is simply verifying what you are testing.\
Getting water means you are not getting gasoline. Bad gasoline is not the same as no gasoline.
Contaminated fuel is bad fuel, the degree of degradation varies
I haul fuel and most underground tanks have 2 to 6 inches of water in the bottom, some even 12 inches, if you only knew how fucked up the gas industry really was.... most of the station owners dont even know how to check for water
Which is ridiculous. It's not difficult to goop the end of a stick.
So report those stations.
Some water in the supply tank is expected, it just needs to be removed once in a while. Water and gasoline are immisible, so they can avoid drawing from the very bottom and no water reaches the pump unless something is very fucked up.
And why would they? That's on the oil company. How do people not know that the gas tanks and pumps are leased by the oil company? The gas station makes money off of what's inside the gas station. The oil company makes the money off of the pumps. The owner of the gas station wouldn't give a flying fuck about what's going on with the gas because they just sell it for the oil company.
@@MNDashcamfor what? Seriously for what? In Ohio it's literally against the law to test for quality of gas. So what are you suing them for? Following the law?
As a fuel hauler we stick tanks for volume and to check for water. If i see water in the tanks, it gets reported not only to my company, but i also inform someone in the gas station of it.
the petro company better start paying 4 repairs .!!!
they should already be legally liable... the only problem is how much effort you want to put into pursuing it. also its the local station not the gas company.
Or what ? Trump will give them a tax cut 😹
This happened locally and the gas station paid for everyone a new fuel filter. Just not the labor to replace it or drain the tank.
@@TheObsesedAnimeFreaksNo it's not. You people really need to learn how gas stations work. The gas station owns the building and what's inside it. The oil company leases to the gas station owner the name and the gas pumps. It's the oil company who owns the gas pumps. The oil company is the one that makes the profit off of the gas. So it's the oil company that benefits from testing only for quantity and not for quality. Because then they can sell you water and not gas. As long as they're selling you 5 gallons of liquid they make money off of you. The gas station doesn't see a dime from gas sales.
@@MamaMOB oil company is not responsible for the pumps or the tanks and their maintenance
all gas is worse than it use to be since alcohol absorbs water in the air.
For their own reputation. Individual gas station owners should check their tanks regularly and advertise that. I can see this as a business opportunity. If your station or chain of stations have a reputation of checking the gas for quality. You will get the business far more than other businesses.
For real, even if you have to raise prices to make sure that you cover the costs. Sounds like a great marketing idea by putting a sign stating that you actually care about quality which is why it costs more.
@@Midala87there should be no costs worthy of price increases. Testing tanks daily takes only a long stick and a tube of water detection goop. That's it.
You don’t get it, the station owners stand to make very little per gallon. Now if the gas contains 15% ethanol, well thar ethanol will absorb approx 1:1 of water, so you add 15% water to the tank and now you have many more gallons to sell at tge same price. This practice has gone on for some time - I carry a coke bottle to test whwere I fill up, I have found some stations as much as 50% non fuel
You’d think but that costs money and they’re running on thin margins already.
@@ferretyluv In these circumstances I would be willing to pay 20 or 30% more for that guarantee. My engine is worth more than that
I bet if a state senator or someone else who's "important" fell victim to this, they'd pass legislation against it.
An honest Politician is one who stays bought.
So if the municipalities and state are not interested in quality control and protecting consumers, appears that there indeed is corruption. Why woukd you not want ro protect consumers against fraud?
Ummm.... Republicans?
This pretty much disproves the libertarian argument that companies will self regulate because of the free market. Nope.
That is pretty bad. Yeah, the quality needs to be checked, laws need to change.
I just don't buy gas in Ohio. In fact I do the speed limit and drive all the way through Ohio without stopping for anything but bathroom breaks at rest stops. Ohio is corrupt.
If there are decent stations that would preform testing they can advertise they have verified good gas and thus get a bigger majority of the customers. Take away business from the bad stations. its pretty simple. I would use a verified gas station over a non verified.
The big chain gas stations almost certainly do their own fuel testing. And even half a tank of good gas can help offset a tank of crap
Nobody goes out of their way to patronize a certain gas station. You go to whichever is nearest and cheapest because you’re a captive customer. The unfettered free market does not work. If you want that, go to a third world country.
@@ferretyluv Its a choice to pay attention to where you go. Unless I am traveling out of state There are certain places I will get gas because I know they periodically test for water contaminates. If you dont know you should find out which those are. If you dont care, I guess go to the closest.
@ If you’re out of gas, you don’t have a choice to go 20 minutes away to the place near your house where you know the owner. You’re a captive customer.
And they could be lying and say they test their gas. Unless the state does it you don’t know for sure.
We have a station in NJ that has been repeatedly Closed and Fined over this.When they reopen, They continue to Test the Gasoline. It keeps happening. 1st time they said was due to a Flood. The 2nd? Never heard.
1:14 how can they not test for it? Get a sample and send it to a lab. This is bureaucratic incompetence manifest
This is a common issue across the board, the state working against the people. Politricksters are everywhere. So why do we vote if the politicians in the United States gonna do the opposite of what they promise in their campaign? Lobbying should be against the law and any politician does so should be charged for treason.
Would you rather it be like China or North Korea? I mean I agree with you that lobbying should be illegal since it's just bribery under a different name but the idea of what's the point to voting is ridiculous. We have countries where you're not allowed to vote and they're so much worse than the US.
This happened years ago on N.J. That gas company is now gone.
1:13 i think brother misspoke here. He can verify someone got 5 gallons of something, not gas. 😂😂
The people should be able to sue for damages independently. The station that sold the water instead of gas. Then sue the politicians as well.
I live in Wisconsin and we test gas regularly but seriously wtf why would you even do this like it just says I don't care about my costumer
This deserves more views
Ohio is The dumping ground for stale gasoline and Diesel..... Less miles to the gallon . 😮
Politicians allow it because they get paid to look the other way. Nothing politicians greed.
Keep your receipt file a lawsuit on the gas station for damages the attorney should have the fuel station tested if they have water in the fuel the station is guilty of damages and fruad. The state should be sued for allowing these practices to occur after continuing to be informed on the situation.
Did you see that?!?! 1.27 for gas!!!!
Loser can't bother with a time stamp....
1.27 for a gallon of water
😂@@wilfredoortiz3820
the bloux scam but for gas
Water down gasoline
There is several ways for them to test gas. The main one is called fuel separation paste. There is more ways like dipping tanks, new computer monitoring is oil companies that will come and test your tanks for relatively cheap. The good faith of these station owners just dont want to spend time or money when not enforced.
that's why you look for the Top Tier Gas Detergent logo on your gas pumps like at Shell gas stations
@@WigWoo1 Yes, the shell station they showed from their archived 2-Aug-2001 footage.
3:40 Love that jacket with the flag. I would like to see who the owners of the stations with the bad gas are.
Who owns the station? They should arrested and station closed down. No brainer ...but why wouldn't they do it?? Why aren't they being sued?;,I dont get it.
This was common in Florida, hate to see Ohio becoming Florida.
Too late.....
They should be held Responsible.
Hamilton County Ohio Sheriff refusing to perform the duties of her duties of her office Pat Dressings and Mike DeWine covered up for county employees not sending files to ODRC and APA covered up for years
Absolutely awful music at the beginning
I didn't even notice how bad it was till I read this while watching. Why did they go with hip-hop for this...?!
honestly the whole video had bad music, better to have no music imo
This is just one of the many many reasons I left that state.
They can already get in big trouble with the EPA if their storage tank is leaking
It shouldn't happen at all.
old gas pumps need a comeback! the one where you can actually see the gas that's going in your car
Their underground tank must have a leak and fills up with groundwater. The electronic tank gauge can tell when theres water in the tank.
We got a sonoco employee folks.
I don’t believe that the water in the gas is being hauled there by the tanker. It is getting water from the tank in the ground because overtime water can seep into that tank that’s where the water is coming from. it’s not being hauled in.
I don't understand why it's so hard to do the right thing and stop doing the bad things common sense. All you people knowing problems but never do the right thing you'll answer someday for it.
Sue the gas stations owners and corps for false advertisement. It may be currently legal for them to use water as a volume replacement in those states, but it's illegal for them to not inform the consumer. They advertise fuel at a certain price per gallon. If you pay for 13 gallons of Unleaded fuel, but receive 4 gallons of Unleaded + 9 gallons of water, that's misleading and illegal. Once they start having to reimburse customers for more than just auto repairs, the risk won't be worth the profiteering.
The beat in the back goes hard🦻🏻💯
It doesn't take much to stop a small engine, learned that the hard way.
Lesson learned: DO NOT move to Ohio
When I hear people say i cant test it i hear I dont want to try. The remedy to this is you can test it. Take a gas jug to the gas station and pump a small amount of gas into it first. Look at it. pour it into a clear container. If its water then don't pump that garbage into your vehicle. I mean it doesn't take a chemist or a certified technician to see if water is in gasoline.
THE VEEDER ROOT HAS A WATER ALARM!!! These gas stations are lying to escape liability.
gas stations shouldn't have to tested. the company should test it before releasing it
@@thepotatoofheaven Water usually gets in from improperly secured caps or from a bad well drain that doesn't allow the well to be drained before the fill cap is removed.
actually there is a way to see if you are getting gas over water, that is to use a gas can. fill the gas can take it home pour some into a clear container and wait for it to settle. or get some of that paste that one station own uses and test it that way.
Do you not drive or something? That’s not practical and you still have to spend extra money to test it.
You’re also not allowed to put gas into a container that’s not specified to hold gas. So if you’re not putting gas into a gas tank or one of those red gas cans, you’re breaking the law.
Can you sue the gas station for the cost of the damage?
What a horrible thing. If i ever go to Ohio i won't be filling up there.
Just saying, I’ve never had a problem with this anywhere. These complaints are all from the Cincinnati area, it’s not like every filling station in the state has problems with water in their gas.
This place should be shut down
When the rules and laws fail, it is the civic duty of the citizen to take matters into their own hands. You are supposed to have protections from stuff like this. You are not being provided the protection. So you must protect yourselves. You are under attack. Defend yourselves.
For the Ohioans that live on the borders, they can go to the next state(s) over. IN, KY, MI, WV, and PA has gas quality testing. For those that live in the middle, it may be time to get a testing kit and a small fuel container to do their own testing.
Next time I go to Ohio I’ll remember to carry a bottle of octane booster and a bottle of dry gas
I can tell you.... quality testing doesn't do much when it comes to a certain gas station about 10 miles north of the Michigan/Ohio border.
Every time someone stops into the parts store I work at and they state they just filled up and their vehicle runs like crap... we always say the name of the station and they confirm it's where they bought fuel.
I don't know HOW the station has stayed in business as many years as it has.
Here’s what you do. Keep a bottle of dry gas with you and use it at every fill up. It’s called Heet or IsoHeet. It’s basically alcohol which displaces water . Next carry octane booster as well. This should get a tank of questionable fuel to at least burn. Ideally you wanna fill up before crossing into Ohio, but I can say when I fueled up in the Dayton area I never got bad gas
nobody should hafta do all that... let alone buy additives just to make it minimally acceptable just to make it run. Besides, buying HEET or iopropyl alchohol addatives is redundant... modern gas is required to have at least 10% ethanol in it.. that's 10% alcohol already.. that tiny bottle will make no difference except to your wallet. and it will not do anything if it's 90% water like in all these examples. The problem is the Ohio Democrats who don't want to allow them to test for bad fuel. Especially when it's a common, well known problem... why wouldn't they want to make sure it's actually gas? could it be that politicians are being paid off by big oil (as they said) to stop them from voting to protect the consumers? Maybe because when there's bad or contaminated gas around the country from storms etc... it's easier to truck it & sell it to Ohio instead of losing all that money because it's contaminated. Why are the Democrats in the state fighting to stop the ability to protect consumers? spending more money on addatives just to make what you already paid for barely acceptable? doesn't sound like a good plan.
I’ve lived here all my life, I’ve never gotten bad gas nor heard of anybody getting it before now. People will hear one story about something and start acting like it’s an issue that everyone on earth is dealing with on a daily basis.
The citizens of Ohio keep voting in the same politicians that are not doing anything about it!
When will you political nut jobs understand, It doesn't matter who is in office. As long as their pockets are filled they will tell you whatever you want to hear!
They COULD check. They just wont for fear of repercussions. Selling 90% water as gas is a huge lawsuit in the making. Never getting gas at Sonoco.
People like to think the station is crooks watering down their gas to increase profits. It dont work like that.
Water & gas do not mix. they separate. Water, being heavier, will sink to the bottom of the tank. Where is
the intake pipe in a gas station tank? At the bottom. Where is the intake pipe in your car gas tank? At the
bottom. So the gas pumps suck up the water & pump it into your tank. The water was delivered to the gas
station in the big gas tanker truck, Either the truck had water in its tank from cleaning? Or where he picked
up his load had water in the tank. For cleaning? Who knows. Long story short - it is not the gas stations fault.
Here in California, all gas stations must have a computer tank monitor which not only shows the level of the
fuel but also reports if there is any water & if so, how much. @1" the tank monitor shuts all the pumps down
until the water is pumped out. FYI the intake pipe to the pumps = 3" off the bottom of the tanks.
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Send this to Hank Green who said this doesn't happen in America since we have laws 🙄
Seriously Ohio? Well I will not visit your state with this kind of crap.
very blessed I was not born in Ohio
Glad i don't live in Ohio and i guess I'll never get gas in Ohio if I'm driving cross country and going through Ohio
Stay away from small privately own gas stations... this happens because the station owners are being cheap and lazy with their tank maintenance.
Do people not have noses? I mean you can see the fumes and smell it.
I wonder how many reports it takes to do something about this?
Looks like this station has been reporting about this problem for over 20 years.
EV vehicles don't have bad gas problems.
This audit for testing the quality of the fuel should be at federal level so it's covered at all state level's. Hate lobbyists all they care about is there bottom line and nothing else
Somebody got paid off
This happened to a friend of mine in Florida. Luckily he saved the receipt and the gas station reimbursed him, all 700 dollars for the mechanic to flush all the water out and engine diagnostic.
Thankfully, no engine damage.
always keep a receipt to prove you bought gas there. But even this causes issues depending on how much you bought.
Is that why gas in Ohio is cheap? I was wondering what brought the prices down. It's water. Imagine trying to drive with a giant ice cube in your tank.
I can’t believe Ohio refuses to protect the consumers!
As gerrymandered as OH is, I would be surprised if they did Anything for consumers.
that's why you look for the Top Tier Gas Detergent logo on your gas pumps. Shell stations will only use top tier
how does that help with tank water ingress?
moral of the story stop buying no name gas
this exactly what i was thinking, california gas is already expensive.
y’all have it good even at good quality gas stations 😭😭😭
They no that Ohio can use bad gas so they ship it here
Welcome to Ohio.
Same thing happened here in southwest Florida a while back. The only gas that didn't have water was Walmart gas station. Everyone else had water in the gas.
We are having the same problem in Preble and Darke County, OH!
That’s why you don’t buy the cheapest gas you can find! Find the more expensive stations. I always get diesel fuel at the co-op station because they are $1.00 higher than anyone else. It’s more expensive but they use tons and tons of different fuel additives to make sure your engine will stay running properly. And they do have better quality than anyone else. My diesel truck gelled up last winter due to going to cheaper stations it gelled at 25 degrees Fahrenheit but when I’ve ran co-op fuel, it gelled up at-45 Fahrenheit. If you buy cheap gas than that’s on you.
The guy that was checking the gas was at the gas station by my aunt's house in Hamilton!
Pay up gas delivery!!! Pay up Ohio law makers!
Won’t buy gas in Ohio. Thx.
I buy gas only at Costco. It Ohio whee safe here in Southern Ca.
I was a gas hauler for a short time. Sometimes the independent stations will order more regular than the regular tank will hold, and they tell the truck driver to put it in the premium.
Why isn't there a water separator with a sensor inside each pump? Every single pump at a filling station should have a sensor for that that shuts down the pumps if water is detected in the fuel.
😂 whats up with the trap music in the background?
It's a bop 😂😂
They will probably find octanes are off and the waste gas recycled from junkyards is being mixed in with fresh fuel.
Water can damage the engine due to water not as easy to compress like air is. If you hear knocking from the bottom of engine after water got in it you may need a new engine.
I'm curious as to who owns these gas stations. And what I mean by that is what nationality are the people doing this? I have my suspicions but they are just that right now.
Also sounds like someone at the state level is getting some massive Kickbacks to allow this to happen, imagine that.
Indians are notorius for watering down their gas. We've had several caught doing it over the years as far back as the 80s.
Someone at the State House is on the take... hands down. People need to get together and hire private investigators.
Wow. We never have this problem in Lego City. Our Octan fuel, be it Octan Unleaded, Octan Diesel, Octan Aquatic, or Octan Leaded Avgas for the Hindenbrick, has not now nor has it ever contained water.
In fact, a good chunk of our fuel comes in via the dockyards, on ships, and has never contained even a drop of water.
Have to feel sorry for Ohio, first the idiots array that was the train derailment and now years of bad fuel. People might as well just buy the crude and make the fuel themselves…. That is, if that’s even legal.
Rockatoa, a very thankful to live in Lego City Brickticks out!
these cars are now insurance claims and are now scrap
How can these gas station be selling bad gas and there’s no law to protect car owners sad
40 year auto mechanic here. I have had many cars come in over the years with straight water in the tank. I just remove the fuel line and just run the fuel pump until it runs out of fuel/water. Put in two gallons of new gas and run the pump again until straight gas is running out. Connect the fuel line again and start the car and let it run for about 20 minutes. Then completely fill the tank and it’s good to go. Never had another problem related to the water being in there. Shops replacing all fuel lines, fuel injector’s fuel regulator’s are just ripping people off and is totally unnecessary. Just taking advantage of people’s misfortune. I charge around $300 for the time involved. I have seen people with $2500.00 bills for repairs for water in the tank. A lot of shops/ dealers are scumbags.
Gas companies scamming their customers