Behringer Pro VS Mini: Vector tutorial - evolving pads with a BOC-ish ambience

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  • Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
  • The vector synthesis at the heart of the Pro-VS can be confusing at first. I thought I'd upload an extended walk-through of the process of creating a dreamy lofi evolving pad sound.
    Pro VS Mini soundbank available now: letsgetnaturedout.co.uk/
    00:00 Intro
    00:22 Background to vector synthesis on the Pro VS Mini
    02:45 Demonstrating final pad patch
    03:15 Initialising patch
    03:33 Explanation of basic vector mix controls
    05:10 Setting the oscillator waveforms
    06:10 Detuning the oscillators
    07:10 Setting amp envelope
    08:15 Setting mix envelope loop
    09:27 Setting mix points 0-4
    11:58 Demonstrating vector mix
    12:29 Setting mix envelope rates
    13:57 Adding oscillator interval tunings
    15:17 Setting filter envelope amount and ADSR
    17:08 Adding chorus
    17:35 Adding filter and pitch LFOs
    20:00 Tweaking mix envelope rates
    20:30 Trying different waveforms
    21:30 Thanks and goodbye
    This thing sounds great! (This is quite a long one, sorry. Let me know what else you'd like to see in the comments)
    If you like the idea of chilled synth and psychedelic wildlife action please have a look at my new channel / @letsgetnaturedout .
    linktr.ee/lets.get.natured.out
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Комментарии • 103

  • @colinlow1167
    @colinlow1167 9 месяцев назад +16

    I'm grateful for the turorial, I had no idea how all this stuff worked. It opened my eyes to what a fantastic little synth the Pro VS is, even if it isn't a spot-on clone of the original. Your moving backdrop of marine life drove me nuts 🙂

    • @witchdoctorwise
      @witchdoctorwise  9 месяцев назад +1

      Haha thanks glad it was useful. Sorry if the background swirling about gave you motion sickness and thanks for the feedback - was a bit of a quirky last minute idea (I have too many of those) that I think was probably a step too far 🙃

  • @andy-pandyman
    @andy-pandyman 9 месяцев назад +7

    This helped me a lot, kinda get stuck trying to work out Behringer manuals (and a few other manufactures) but this helped me get started, I will need to watch again as I have forgotten some of it already. Thank you for doing this😃

  • @alexrusso401
    @alexrusso401 9 месяцев назад +3

    My Pro VS just arrived! First thing I did was follow along with this video and create the patch. Super clear and easy to follow along...although it was a bit hard to read the LCD so I'm sure some of my numbers are a bit off, but it sounds right lol

    • @witchdoctorwise
      @witchdoctorwise  8 месяцев назад

      Oh nice one that’s great to hear. Yes I’d like to come up with a better resolution for the closeup in future. Or at least put the numbers up as I go.

  • @toyzintheattic
    @toyzintheattic 9 месяцев назад +5

    You are a legend. Thanks for this

  • @NoizeLabUK
    @NoizeLabUK 9 месяцев назад +2

    Just picked one of these (and a JT-4000 Micro) up over the weekend. I feel more confident about creating sounds with it and moving around the menus after watching your excellent video. Thank you very much.

  • @bengale1369
    @bengale1369 9 месяцев назад +4

    I'm new to making sounds and this was a brilliant tutorial video. Thank you for making it.

    • @witchdoctorwise
      @witchdoctorwise  9 месяцев назад

      Thanks so much for the kind comment, hearing that makes it feel very worthwhile!

  • @AndyFirebladeMuza
    @AndyFirebladeMuza 9 месяцев назад +3

    Fantastic Video, Got mine last weekend but was too busy to sit down with it so, only had a quick play. Plan for this weekend was to really put it through it's paces. This video has given me a great head start. Thanks for creating.

    • @AndyFirebladeMuza
      @AndyFirebladeMuza 9 месяцев назад

      @@veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee pre ordered mine at the beginning of August from Andersons Music in the UK. They still have stock.

    • @witchdoctorwise
      @witchdoctorwise  9 месяцев назад

      Great stuff, nice one! Hope you had fun. It takes a bit of getting used to and it’s hard to get some sounds out of it but for long evolving pads it’s really nice

  • @MariaCalfaDePaul
    @MariaCalfaDePaul Месяц назад

    Thank you. I really think there is. Or to this synth then I first thought. Just got it and having a ton of fun when I can’t sleep lol 😂

  • @Congasjones
    @Congasjones 9 месяцев назад +2

    Thanks for the video -very well explained and shows what this great little synth can do ❤
    Also has given me a great intro into how sound design works too thanks

    • @witchdoctorwise
      @witchdoctorwise  9 месяцев назад +1

      Great to hear, thanks for watching! Hoping to do another tutorial next few days

    • @Congasjones
      @Congasjones 9 месяцев назад

      @@witchdoctorwise great -looking forward to that cheers

  • @typistmusic
    @typistmusic 6 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for making this. The manual does not explain the mix points and that is a very important concept.

    • @witchdoctorwise
      @witchdoctorwise  6 месяцев назад

      Glad it was useful! The manual is not super helpful I agree

  • @HairyJamie
    @HairyJamie 9 месяцев назад +2

    Thanks for making this, really opens the synth up for me and i couldn't work it out myself!

    • @veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
      @veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee 9 месяцев назад +1

      you have one? where to buy? i wanna play!

    • @Congasjones
      @Congasjones 9 месяцев назад

      @@veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeAndertons in uk

    • @witchdoctorwise
      @witchdoctorwise  9 месяцев назад

      @@veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeI got it from Andertons in the UK

    • @witchdoctorwise
      @witchdoctorwise  9 месяцев назад +1

      Ah thanks for watching, really pleased it was useful 😊 it’s not the easiest synth at first but there’s a lot to play with hidden in there

  • @manmaas
    @manmaas 7 месяцев назад +2

    This popped up as a suggested video. So glad it did, like others here I quickly grew frustrated with the lack of detail in the manual and kind of put the synth aside thinking perhaps it wasn’t for me. Your video gives me a far more in-depth idea of what it can do. I’ll be sitting down to recreate this patch which is very much what I’ve been looking for. It has very much an Eno style. Thanks again and Happy New Year!

    • @witchdoctorwise
      @witchdoctorwise  6 месяцев назад

      Brilliant!

    • @manmaas
      @manmaas 6 месяцев назад +1

      One question though: How do you actually save patches? I’ve tried several times now and I’m getting something wrong. Can’t believe how little information there is out there for this thing.

    • @witchdoctorwise
      @witchdoctorwise  6 месяцев назад +1

      @@manmaas yes Behringer’s documentation is definitely one area for improvement! To save a patch press the ‘func’ button - then ‘store’ on the keyboard (the right-most key). You can give it a name first by pressing Func and then the name button. It will overwrite the current patch, you can’t choose where to save it. So best to use Synthtribe to back up your patches first, the. You can also use Synthtribe to back up any of your saved patches and load them back where you want them.

  • @cfytcf
    @cfytcf 9 месяцев назад +4

    Excellent video, thanks for making it.

  • @michaelpierce3264
    @michaelpierce3264 9 месяцев назад +3

    very in-depth thanks so much!

    • @witchdoctorwise
      @witchdoctorwise  9 месяцев назад +1

      Glad you enjoyed it… it was a bit long but I felt we needed one deep dive at least, I’m going to try and do a shorter one covering more percussive sounds

  • @nikjanevmusic
    @nikjanevmusic 6 месяцев назад +1

    You have a gift at explaining. Fantastic vid.

  • @marcelzoer3655
    @marcelzoer3655 6 месяцев назад +1

    Super explanation on how to program Vector synthese and how to do that on this Behringer. 👏🤩🤩

    • @witchdoctorwise
      @witchdoctorwise  6 месяцев назад +1

      That’s fantastic to hear, thank you!

  • @guitfiddleblue
    @guitfiddleblue 6 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the instruction here. I am new to this sort of thing and it’s very helpful to learn.

  • @77Tom77Tom77
    @77Tom77Tom77 6 месяцев назад +1

    Your tutorial was very helpful for me! Thank you for this!! :D 🥰🥰🥰

  • @simoncardie9371
    @simoncardie9371 9 месяцев назад +1

    Excellent! I can now produce some sounds, thanks to you!

  • @ArvoTomingas
    @ArvoTomingas 5 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you! A lot of information, which is missing from Behringer's own instructions. The background music was a bit distracting, which made it a bit challenging to focus on the sound you were editing. :) But otherwise great job and it was very helpful!

  • @tonymurray750
    @tonymurray750 8 месяцев назад +3

    Great Video. I mustvadmit im not loving the stock sounds overall but think with the help of this tutorial i can get a lot more out of it 👍

    • @witchdoctorwise
      @witchdoctorwise  8 месяцев назад

      Great to hear, that’s the result I’m hoping for as I feel people can get a lot more out of it once they start delving! Presets aren’t great I’ll agree. But then that’s often the way which at least leaves plenty of space for my vids haha

  • @philipjewer5275
    @philipjewer5275 7 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for the video! I got the Pro-VS Mini today as a Christmas present & was a bit frustrated that Behringer's manual is so brief. I think your videos are going to be the go-tos for a lot of us novice Pro-VS users. Luckily I haven't been on the booze too much today so didn't mind the marine life background 😂

    • @witchdoctorwise
      @witchdoctorwise  6 месяцев назад +2

      yeah sorry was a bit of an unfortunate experiment I now regret haha

  • @christdolphin69
    @christdolphin69 8 месяцев назад +1

    sounds unreal. nice work

  • @D5x610
    @D5x610 9 месяцев назад +6

    It’s absurd that this isn’t documented by Behringer. Its fundamental feature is not clear how to use. Thanks for the video.

  • @Highfiber123
    @Highfiber123 4 месяца назад

    Well done,,,, thanks for posting

  • @VintageMusicGearTV
    @VintageMusicGearTV 9 месяцев назад +1

    Awesome tutorial just made a great blade runner sound thanks so much

  • @simontappenden9179
    @simontappenden9179 9 месяцев назад +1

    Excellent tutorial thanks!

  • @nique21nue
    @nique21nue 6 месяцев назад

    if there had been tuts like yours back when I had the time to tweak my Kawai K1-II all nite every nite ;)
    Nice one, thx!

  • @erik_gerhard
    @erik_gerhard 9 месяцев назад +4

    Now THIS is why I want one of these! Not to half-assedly recreate the Terminator soundtrack. 😂

    • @witchdoctorwise
      @witchdoctorwise  9 месяцев назад +3

      Haha. My next vid is actually a film soundtrack cover for a bit of fun 😅 but will do more of these tutes too…

    • @erik_gerhard
      @erik_gerhard 9 месяцев назад

      @@witchdoctorwise no worries there. Tbh tbh it seems like a machine well suited to soundtrack production, I just can't get over that Behringer didn't think to include any use of vector synthesis in their demo videos about a vector synth. 😂

  • @kurtklingklang5918
    @kurtklingklang5918 9 месяцев назад +3

    You highlight the main omission on the synth - it doesn’t respond to sustain pedal input. It would make previewing sounds a lot easier, along with making playing it live a lot better, if it recognised a sustain input.

    • @witchdoctorwise
      @witchdoctorwise  9 месяцев назад +1

      Agree that responding to sustain would be a useful future update (I’d also like a unison mode and glide)

  • @coraduncan2325
    @coraduncan2325 3 месяца назад

    Each ofyor videos on this synth have opened up new sounds & work flow.
    Now to get this little JT-4000 under control!
    Maybe do that one next?

    • @coraduncan2325
      @coraduncan2325 3 месяца назад

      I'm doing my best at an intermediate level of synth connectivity knowledge.
      Doing my best to link the Pro VS Mini, an Alesis SR-16 drum machine & a microKORG to do live or to tape so I can play guitar or piano & sing over the bass, arpeggios or sweeps and pads.
      I'll get there little by little, i wont give up.
      At 72, I've learned to have lots of patience. Besides, this is fun!

  • @livelooper
    @livelooper 7 месяцев назад +1

    Good demo, ....gonna bail before the end because the background music makes it hard to stay with.

  • @emixbase
    @emixbase 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for the video ! Nice to see pus pus and Junior getting into sounds 🍻

  • @DemoniCareScriu
    @DemoniCareScriu 5 месяцев назад

    Hello! I see you using 4 notes after thr fitlrr anvelope but other rpeople say that the filter is mono or paraphonic! Can share a little light about this? I am confused!

  • @159awi
    @159awi Месяц назад

    So can I jump from setpoint 0 to setpoint 3 by setting the envelope for 1 and 2 to zero? Setpoint 3 sustains, right?

  • @johndurrant9262
    @johndurrant9262 9 месяцев назад +1

    I've tried the Pro VS Mini connected to a couple of different external keyboards via midi cable but can't move the joystick around to tweak sustained notes because the sustain pedals on my external keyboards don't sustain the notes on the Pro VS Mini - any ideas?

    • @witchdoctorwise
      @witchdoctorwise  9 месяцев назад +2

      Sadly it doesn’t seem to respond to sustain signals at the moment. Hopefully they’ll change that in a future update.

    • @johndurrant9262
      @johndurrant9262 9 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for confirming... Your video really helped my exploration of the functions to create an interesting variety of sounds, looking forward to more.

  • @bikegarrett
    @bikegarrett 2 месяца назад

    How can I get my mod wheel and slider wheel to work from my midi keyboard ?

  • @madmac66
    @madmac66 9 месяцев назад +2

    Can you control any of the functions via CC messages?

    • @madmac66
      @madmac66 9 месяцев назад +2

      Great sounding patch by the way. I think more should be made of vector synthesis. Modern computing power is way capable of it. I want 12 vector envelopes with all the loop point options you demonstrated here but freely assignable to any of the synths parameters. Thinking of NI Absynth here

    • @veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
      @veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee 9 месяцев назад +1

      you're onto something there! i wanna play it@@madmac66

    • @witchdoctorwise
      @witchdoctorwise  9 месяцев назад +2

      Yes it does, I have made a Cubase editor for exactly this purpose. You can control filter cutoff, resonance, oscillator tunings, chorus, lfos and the filter and amp envelope ADSRs - but not the filter envelope amount, osc mix envelopes and mix env loop and mix point controls which would all be really useful and I hope they add them in a future update

    • @veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
      @veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee 9 месяцев назад

      noice! that's exciting
      @@witchdoctorwise

  • @synthsamuraiproductions
    @synthsamuraiproductions 9 месяцев назад +1

    Gonna pick one up when 🇺🇸 comes out

    • @simoncardie9371
      @simoncardie9371 9 месяцев назад +1

      Quite a few people in the US are ordering from Andertons in the UK, as they seem to have all of them. Around a week for delivery to the US.

    • @witchdoctorwise
      @witchdoctorwise  8 месяцев назад +1

      Do it!

  • @alexaustin5322
    @alexaustin5322 9 месяцев назад +2

    Saving separate sequences and recalling them plz

    • @witchdoctorwise
      @witchdoctorwise  9 месяцев назад

      Yes this is an area I’m still getting my head around - the sequencer could be more intuitive for sure, will try and do a vid on this soon..

    • @DJ_312
      @DJ_312 9 месяцев назад

      @@witchdoctorwise Perfect, I'm struggling with the sequencer too. Great video, thanx.

  • @AModulationJourney
    @AModulationJourney 9 месяцев назад +1

    2 days late for me, sent it back, lack of documentation and info on this was driving me crazy!!

    • @witchdoctorwise
      @witchdoctorwise  9 месяцев назад +1

      Oh dear, it’s a shame - I feel lack of documentation is an issue with this one but at least it gives a chance for people like me to fill the gaps 😅

    • @AModulationJourney
      @AModulationJourney 9 месяцев назад +1

      Its a shame indeed@@witchdoctorwise

  • @cooleo867
    @cooleo867 9 месяцев назад +1

    Are the envelops Analog or digital?

    • @THEREALDATALORD
      @THEREALDATALORD 9 месяцев назад +2

      Everything is digital except the analog filter.

    • @cooleo867
      @cooleo867 9 месяцев назад

      @@THEREALDATALORD thanks

    • @witchdoctorwise
      @witchdoctorwise  9 месяцев назад +1

      Analogue VCAs too maybe?

    • @witchdoctorwise
      @witchdoctorwise  9 месяцев назад +1

      (I think the LFOs and envelopes were digital on the original Prophet VS by the way)

  • @vincezab1
    @vincezab1 9 месяцев назад +1

    Great video from a content perspective but that moving background is completely distracting!

    • @witchdoctorwise
      @witchdoctorwise  9 месяцев назад

      Yes with hindsight not sure about that idea apologies to all whom it gave motion sickness 😅

    • @Dudderlyful
      @Dudderlyful 9 месяцев назад +1

      I like the moving background! It's very creative 👍🏻

    • @witchdoctorwise
      @witchdoctorwise  9 месяцев назад

      haha thanks @@Dudderlyful- it certainly seems to divide opinion. I do tend to have that effect as I have a tendency to go off the reservation sometimes

  • @TheJuzzmezz
    @TheJuzzmezz 6 месяцев назад +3

    impossible to watch with the nauseating moving background-

    • @witchdoctorwise
      @witchdoctorwise  6 месяцев назад +1

      Sorry about that, a fair comment. I didn’t do it for my next one haha

  • @ManyattaYokatta
    @ManyattaYokatta 9 месяцев назад +2

    The background video is very annoying.

    • @witchdoctorwise
      @witchdoctorwise  9 месяцев назад +1

      Haha sorry, yes I thought this may divide opinion, it was a bit of a quirky addition I’ll admit and my offbeat style isn’t going to be for everyone… hope it didn’t ruin its usefulness for too many 😢 (thanks for the feedback anyway, it is always useful!)

  • @GaryWalker
    @GaryWalker 6 месяцев назад +2

    This was so close to being a great tutorial...but your profound abuse of chromakey is, frankly, nauseating. As in it gave me motion sickness such that I had to stop the video.

    • @witchdoctorwise
      @witchdoctorwise  6 месяцев назад

      Haha oh dear apologies. Yes I think it’s fair to say my approach on this one certainly divided opinion and you’ll note I didn’t do it on my next pro vs mini tutorial!

    • @GaryWalker
      @GaryWalker 6 месяцев назад +1

      For which I was grateful. Thanks for being a good sport about it. Your explanation of vector synthesis was spot on, even if the visuals were....not. :D

    • @witchdoctorwise
      @witchdoctorwise  6 месяцев назад

      @@GaryWalker haha