Thanks Tim. I love your vids, especially this one where you pass by my house down in the Capitola village. Maybe you could do a vid of your favorite, safe routes in the area.
That's awesome! Thank you for the support! I do have a lot of routes that I love, so that's a tough one! I think it kind of depends on my mood that day. 😆 I will say that Valencia to Cox Rd. to Day Valley Rd. is on of my favorites because they're not too busy and they pass through the peaceful valley and all the apple orchards. Swanton Loop is also a favorite, but I haven't done that on the ebike yet (only a hundred times on my road bike 🙂) and it requires riding the ever-crazy Highway 1. I appreciate the suggestion and will definitely consider a montage video of maybe my top 5 routes with kind of a "safety rating." That's a great idea! 👍🏻
I have the Ultra 1000 and did a throttle only test the other day. I pedal to shift gears then used throttle to cruise around 25mph. With the 21ah battery I got about 12 miles before I switched to my spare battery I carry. Wasnt all the way thru battery so probably could go 15 miles with slower speeds. With me, gear, spare battery im about 240 pounds. Ive gone 54 miles using pedal assist on 21ah battery for reference.
Nice! I think on flats I could have gone about 40 miles on throttle only. I didn't find shifting using throttle only a problem, since the M620 has a power cutoff. I did a battery longevity test using PAS and did just under 50 with about 35% left. I was carrying 2 panniers and pulling our 30 lb dog in a trailer, so I was lugging probably 320 lbs including myself. It's one of my longer videos, but if you haven't seen here's a link: ruclips.net/video/H8Smq2oP4bo/видео.html All the best! 👍🏻
@@twowheeltim Mine has the cutoff too but even then the ultra has enough power to shock the drivetrain a little and there are people having the hubs blow out so I baby the drivetrain as much as I can. I in Oregon so riding in winter is a challenge ( unless you like rain lol). Thanks for the videos. Oh I built a trailer for my dog that is kinda cool. ruclips.net/video/HT6KfkdIhE0/видео.html&ab_channel=nwmetalbug
If you increase the Slow Start setting on the m620's controller, that rough start when engaging e-engaging goes away. (Also reduces strain on the little pawl clutch inside!)
Also, you cited the exact same range numbers I get, on an m620 @ 48V×21Ah; except I'm 6'10" & 255lbs on an 80lb ebike with 2.8" wide 17.5” Maxxis offroad tires... Nice to know I'm getting range that's not so far from usual!
Thanks for taking the time to do this whole Series of videos. Very helpful the beast is on my short list! I had no idea that you could change the tire to a thinner one on the same rim. That big tire was too much for me! Cheers!
Thank you for the positive support! I'm happy I could help. I love the Beast and have really enjoyed exploring the possibilities. If you haven't seen it yet, I did a video specifically about changing the tires. You can't get much smaller than the 26x3.5 tires on the 100mm rim width. Just an FYI. Just be sure you're looking specifically for "fat tires." I'll be doing more, so please subscribe if you have yet to do so. 👍🏻 All the best!
@@twowheeltim yes I saw it, it was very helpful! I wish your camera battery didn’t die, but that is how it goes sometimes. The links you provided helped me understand a lot. We have a call with Biktrix soon. I do wonder if the beast is too big for me. I am just under 5’10 but it has all the features I want. Thinking of a stepthru ultra duo 3 for the 5’2 wife but all that will be discussed in the call. All subscribed and binge watching you before call :) Cheers Tim in Florida
😆 I appreciate the subscribing and binge watching. As far as bike size, here's my thought. I'm just over 6' tall and I have a little trouble getting the seat high enough to give me the leg extension I prefer (I'm a pretty experienced cyclist of all kinds of bikes). You likely will have very little standover, but you should be able to adjust the seat high enough for your inseam. The bigger concern here is your torso length. If your height is more inseam than reach, you might find it a little uncomfortable. Have you looked at the specs on the Biktrix site yet? It shows all the geometry measurements, so you can take your body measurements and compare. That's what we did before I bought Elaine the Hud Duo. I bought her the 18.5" step-over and it's a good fit. It's a little big for her, but the step-throughs were just not a good measurement for her. The Ultra Duo step-thru should be perfect for your wife. Maybe a little long, but you can adjust the stem. Hope this helps. All the best! 👍🏻
@@twowheeltim I’ve spent a bit of time on the site but did not see the geometry info… I’ll take a look. I have always been the guy that goes to a bike shop and they fit it! So its all new. Definitely pick up on your experience in biking! So website buying of a bike at more than 4k is a bit worrisome lol. When looking for video ideas consider going over all the upgrades you have done. So helpful to us inexperienced bikers! Take care ! cheers and thank you!
Thanks for the suggestion. I think I briefly touch on some, but I like the idea of doing a video specifically discussing the upgrades/changes. 👍🏻 I'll see if I can find the geometry link for you.
Thanks for your videos. I'm a big dude as well, 6'3 300lbs. I have a lot of hills where I live and was originally going to get the Ariel Rider Grizzly, but it has dual hub motors. Your and johnnynerdout's videos convinced me to go with the Beast with the mid drives.
Thank you for the positive support! The Beast is great and I have no regrets. I think you will feel the same way. The 1000w mid-drive motor is crazy powerful and I can get up to 30 mph in a snap. I'm planning a 3-day weekend trip on it next weekend rain or shine (forecast says chance of rain), so stay tuned! 👍🏻
That's a tough one because there are so many variables the impact battery usage. If you mostly use PAS 1 and 2, you could get 60-70 miles. If you use PAS 3-5 it will definitely drain faster; especially if you use the throttle. I feel like 60-65% is a good turnaround point until you get a better understanding for how your size, riding style/preferences, and terrain impact your battery usage. And I still don't have a great understanding for how voltage equates to battery percentage...🤷🏼♂️ 🤣
I'll second that estimate! In practice, I notice that _higher_ assist levels get more miles per Wh expended, once the Voltage drops below 48V. The m620 _really_ performs better (& runs cooler!) at higher Voltages. (Rumor has it, it was designed for 60V but ships with smaller mosfets\capacitors on its integrated controller, because they're more efficient for lower voltage setups...)
Oh. My beast came with a G510 Bafang. I guess similar motor then the M620 I clocked over 3000 miles this year. I'm now owner of 3 ebikes. I like the beast the best
@@prophetzarquon I've replaced the chainring to a 48 tooth on the beast 2. And I will be carrying a 3rd battery with me. Biktrix are selling those batteries for $599 now. I don't think they sell the Beast 2 any longer.
@@bergmanst Nice. I went with the Frey (AM1000 v5) because it's full suspension & good components, with one 1KWh battery. I see a lot of Biktrix ebikes though & they're pretty great! The m620 is one of the very best ebike motors out there
I would be confident in any trip 30-35 miles using half pedal assist. If you go visit a friend or something you can toss the Chargers in a bag on the rear rack and charge up for the ride home later.
Definitely. The chargers are pretty compact for travel. I recently bought a solar panel with charge controller that plugs directly into my bike. It fully charged from 19% in less than 8 hours. With the solar panel and charge controller weighing less than 17 lbs, it's definitely something I plan to utilize by doing camping trips on the eBike. 👍🏻 ruclips.net/video/UwiFHhqH_SY/видео.html
Two 47v 15ah batteries (dual battery). 1000 watt motor. If you actually watch some of my earlier videos, I discuss ALL of this. I'm not going to lay out the same specs over and over each time I make a new video.
@@twowheeltim - Hey brother, I do enjoy your videos. My I suggest setting your display to voltage rather than a percentage as it's far my accurate. (my Biktrix read 100% for a week until I checked the voltage which was at 53.x volts). Safe travels.
I have only done a few short trips with the rack, but I bought the 1-Up Super Duty rack. It holds up to 225 lbs for two bikes, and our bikes combined weigh in at about 160 lbs without the batteries; always remove the batteries. I'll be doing a review on my rack soon, but I have several other videos in my queue first. Here's a link to the 1-Up Super Duty: www.1up-usa.com/product/2in-super-duty-double-bike-rack/ Note that I don't make commission and am not sponsored in any way. ✌🏻
I found the same problem when I got to 30% I lost a lot of torque and I was coming back from riding to Elkhorn Slough on the beach the whole way from Aptos and I live up in the woods by the post office and it was hard getting all the way home of the hill thanks for your demos else we know there’s nothing wrong with the bike 90 miles that would never happen in 1 million years
Cool! A local! 👍🏻 I'm planning a 3-day Easter weekend ride from Santa Cruz to Monterey. I'm going to do a 3-part video with day 1 showing the preparation and ride, day 2 ride on 17 Mile Drive, and then day 3 pack up and ride home; most likely via Elkhorn Slough. I've mentioned "a 3-day ride" in a couple of my latest videos, but this is the first time I shared specifics with anyone because most viewers would have no clue where I'm talking about! 😆 Thanks for your support!!
I use the trottle at take off a lot of the times. But I don't use the throttle while pedaling the bike. I leave it in PAS 2 most of the time. I still achive a lot of distance in PAS 2. Most of my rides are 25 miles to 32 miles with over 70% battery life left to use. Same bike as yours.
Yeah, I'm not a huge throttle fan. I only did the video because a lot of commenters had asked about throttle use, distance, etc. It's funny because it's one of my most watched videos, too. 😆 It was a good to experience using only throttle, but I'll stick to PAS for 99.9% of my riding. 👍🏻
The Beast has a thru-axle that just threads out, and then you need to deflate the tire and use tire levers to remove the tire. I've done a few videos where I've showed this process in various stages. I'll post a link to each video separately.
Thanks for your video, what gear and pas level are you using with throttle only on flat ground? Keep riding cheers@ ps just curious what is your weight 😉
Hi Lou! Thanks so much for your positive support. For the throttle only video, I'm not using PAS until the very end when I started running out of battery and torque. At that point, I was using PAS 3. It's important to note that the PAS level has no impact on the throttle of the mid-drive motor (at least this one). The significance of shifting your gears while using throttle only is huge, and I was using the mid-range gears on the flats (6-9). Also, the motor has a cutoff switch, similar to a clutch, when you shift gears, so this minimizes stress on the chain and you need not release the throttle under most conditions while shifting. I would, however, think twice about this if I were climbing an extreme hill using only throttle. Regarding my weight, I actually mention this is several of my previous videos because it's extremely important. In fact, the whole reason I started making videos about my e-bike is because when I was trying to decide on an e-bike, most people doing e-bike reviews are probably half my size and no one ever addresses height, weight, etc. So, long story long, I'm 6'-1" and I started out around 322 lbs. I've since dropped 25 lbs and counting, so I'm really anticipating getting even more longevity! In fact, you'll probably notice I looked a bit heavier in my first couple videos. 😆 Stay tuned because I'm continuing to plan for more engaging videos very soon! Thank you! 👍🏻
Several shots of the display while running downhill at over 30 mph indicated no amps being used by motor. Did the motor just stop providing power over 28 mph?
Oh, I thought check to see if you have taken the motor off yet and grease the gears inside the motor? It's do at between 600 and 800 miles. If your motor start getting louder as you use it, it's time to grease the gears. I had to do mine at 600 miles. World of difference in how it sounds after that. That's really the pain of owning a Bafang mid drive.
Gotcha. 👍🏻 I've watched some pretty cool videos on it and I already purchased the bottom bracket tool. Other than being a pain, it doesn't seem too difficult and I do have some experience with working on bikes. Not sure if I'll do a video on it, though! 😆 Maybe...
@@twowheeltim One thing on the spider ring nut some have trouble with. Keep the chain on and hold the rear brake to break the nut lose. other than that, cakewalk.
@@twowheeltim After watching several youtube videos on greasing the motor I came across ome that suggested using Corn Head Grease from John Deer company. I just so have a JD not far from my house and picked up a tube of it. less than $5. It seems to work well.
My mind hasn't gone that far yet, but thanks for the heads up. I can definitely see it'll need to be a much thicker viscosity than Phill Wood grease! 😆
How many miles do you have on your beast 2 now?? I have over 800 miles on mine as of last week. I had to replace the cassette being the 11th cog went out on it. I find on my batteries they discharge quickly after 60% used even in peddle assist 1. I'm looking at picking up a go pro to video some of my rides in the future. Last week I clocked 118 miles in one week. I'm up here the Northwest where it's not so warm weather wise. But I do manage to ride when it's not raining.
Hey Steven. I have just under 600 miles so far. There was a 3-week span after New Years where I got sick and didn't ride. I'm on the central coast of Cali where the climate stays mild. I know very cold weather can really impact battery longevity. My batteries seem to holding up just fine so far, but we'll see if that changes come spring and summer.
If u have a programming cable. Its a easy setup to make the throttle follow pas levels. This again increases range by alot as the standard setup for throttle is really bad. Doing some small fixes increases range and give more options of acceleration. Especially if u limit the max throttle to around 1000-1200 W! Im testing a programming\setup build called Frey "smooth" programming.( for now this seems to make the bike pedal even better more akin to a bosch drive. More responsive and less overtorque\continues speed after pedalling. Again decreasing watt usage. And i am also experimenting runnig a 21 (1000w) maks draw instead of 30 a max draw and noticing increased range. And less voltage drop\sage. Btw your bike looks really nice. what is the total wattage of battery?
The Beast has two 48-volt, 15-amp hour batteries integrated into the down tube, and the max output is listed as 1440-watt hours. Thank you for the info! I'm not too worried about the throttle and PAS levels because I honestly never use the throttle. I prefer pedaling using the PAS levels as I would using the gears of a non-electric bike. I also have a mountain bike, downhill bike, road bike, cross bike, beach cruiser, and motorcycle. I guess that's why I call myself Two-Wheel Tim! 🤣 Thanks, again, for sharing your insights!! 👍🏻
@@twowheeltim Nice we are similar then. I have 3 frey bafang bikes. and a haibike allmountain and a mondraker bike. Its so awesome:) If u do like pedalling i still recommend to get a programming cable and check it out. Fex one can enable a second magnet and get more presice readings. And the frey smooth i mentioned really makes pedalling much more better like the bosch engines handle:) Offcourse everyone has their preffered preferences. But the standard programming is pretty basic and normally the throttle isnt even configured- just changing from speed to current make it handle much more like a gas pedal and not like a on off switch.! Quality battery time on that bike you have if they come with an improved version with 48v 21 amp i would by it in a second.
I do enjoy pedaling. Before I bought my Ultra Beast 2, I borrowed a friend's Sondors 750w hub-drive and was very impressed with how PAS worked; being able to pedal as much or as little as I wanted. The Sondors felt way too small for me, however, and after doing a lot of research I knew I'd prefer a mid-drive over a hub-drive. I also needed a beefy enough bike to handle my size as I was well over 300 lbs at the time, but I've since dropped about 45 lbs. THAT will definitely help with battery range! 😆 I haven't been disappointed! 👍🏻
Great Video! Your other videos are the reason I bought the beast 2 and just got it last week! Love it and thank you! Did you use eco 1 to get the most distance out of the battery? Does Pass only effect when you pedal or does it effect throttle only too? Haven’t had enough time on the bike to figure it out yet. Im about 285 and only have gotten a top speed of around 31 mph. I see you averaged close to that with a top speed of 34 at one point. I wonder if you would have gotten a higher top speed in sport 5. Again, great videos!!! Also, when you are using the throttle and shifting, do you let up on the throttle or keep it at full throttle? Thanks!
Hi Bob. Congrats on getting the Beast! All great questions. PAS level has no impact when using the throttle. When you shift the gears while using the throttle, the motor has a cutoff switch the does a brief pause on the torque to allow the derailleur to shift, and then it picks up again once the shift occurs. It's like an internal clutch, and you don't need to let off the throttle. I find that the eco setting is plenty powerful enough for me. I live in a fairly mountainous area where you can't ride 20 miles without climbing at least 1,500 feet total. I do try to focus more on distance over speed because I want to ride farther rather than faster. Plus, I can usually get that adrenaline fix on a good descent at least once per ride. 😆
Thanks Tim. I love your vids, especially this one where you pass by my house down in the Capitola village. Maybe you could do a vid of your favorite, safe routes in the area.
That's awesome! Thank you for the support!
I do have a lot of routes that I love, so that's a tough one! I think it kind of depends on my mood that day. 😆
I will say that Valencia to Cox Rd. to Day Valley Rd. is on of my favorites because they're not too busy and they pass through the peaceful valley and all the apple orchards.
Swanton Loop is also a favorite, but I haven't done that on the ebike yet (only a hundred times on my road bike 🙂) and it requires riding the ever-crazy Highway 1.
I appreciate the suggestion and will definitely consider a montage video of maybe my top 5 routes with kind of a "safety rating." That's a great idea! 👍🏻
@@twowheeltim I just put in my order via your affiliate link for a Beast. I should have it in three weeks.
That's so awesome. Congratulations! And thank you so much for using my link! 🙏🏼
I have the Ultra 1000 and did a throttle only test the other day. I pedal to shift gears then used throttle to cruise around 25mph. With the 21ah battery I got about 12 miles before I switched to my spare battery I carry. Wasnt all the way thru battery so probably could go 15 miles with slower speeds. With me, gear, spare battery im about 240 pounds. Ive gone 54 miles using pedal assist on 21ah battery for reference.
Nice! I think on flats I could have gone about 40 miles on throttle only. I didn't find shifting using throttle only a problem, since the M620 has a power cutoff.
I did a battery longevity test using PAS and did just under 50 with about 35% left. I was carrying 2 panniers and pulling our 30 lb dog in a trailer, so I was lugging probably 320 lbs including myself. It's one of my longer videos, but if you haven't seen here's a link: ruclips.net/video/H8Smq2oP4bo/видео.html
All the best! 👍🏻
@@twowheeltim Mine has the cutoff too but even then the ultra has enough power to shock the drivetrain a little and there are people having the hubs blow out so I baby the drivetrain as much as I can. I in Oregon so riding in winter is a challenge ( unless you like rain lol). Thanks for the videos. Oh I built a trailer for my dog that is kinda cool. ruclips.net/video/HT6KfkdIhE0/видео.html&ab_channel=nwmetalbug
If you increase the Slow Start setting on the m620's controller, that rough start when engaging
e-engaging goes away. (Also reduces strain on the little pawl clutch inside!)
Also, you cited the exact same range numbers I get, on an m620 @ 48V×21Ah; except I'm 6'10" & 255lbs on an 80lb ebike with 2.8" wide 17.5” Maxxis offroad tires... Nice to know I'm getting range that's not so far from usual!
@@prophetzarquon Good to know we are about same performance
Thanks for taking the time to do this whole Series of videos. Very helpful the beast is on my short list! I had no idea that you could change the tire to a thinner one on the same rim. That big tire was too much for me! Cheers!
Thank you for the positive support! I'm happy I could help. I love the Beast and have really enjoyed exploring the possibilities. If you haven't seen it yet, I did a video specifically about changing the tires. You can't get much smaller than the 26x3.5 tires on the 100mm rim width. Just an FYI. Just be sure you're looking specifically for "fat tires." I'll be doing more, so please subscribe if you have yet to do so. 👍🏻 All the best!
@@twowheeltim yes I saw it, it was very helpful! I wish your camera battery didn’t die, but that is how it goes sometimes. The links you provided helped me understand a lot. We have a call with Biktrix soon. I do wonder if the beast is too big for me. I am just under 5’10 but it has all the features I want. Thinking of a stepthru ultra duo 3 for the 5’2 wife but all that will be discussed in the call. All subscribed and binge watching you before call :) Cheers Tim in Florida
😆 I appreciate the subscribing and binge watching. As far as bike size, here's my thought. I'm just over 6' tall and I have a little trouble getting the seat high enough to give me the leg extension I prefer (I'm a pretty experienced cyclist of all kinds of bikes). You likely will have very little standover, but you should be able to adjust the seat high enough for your inseam. The bigger concern here is your torso length. If your height is more inseam than reach, you might find it a little uncomfortable. Have you looked at the specs on the Biktrix site yet? It shows all the geometry measurements, so you can take your body measurements and compare. That's what we did before I bought Elaine the Hud Duo. I bought her the 18.5" step-over and it's a good fit. It's a little big for her, but the step-throughs were just not a good measurement for her. The Ultra Duo step-thru should be perfect for your wife. Maybe a little long, but you can adjust the stem. Hope this helps. All the best! 👍🏻
@@twowheeltim I’ve spent a bit of time on the site but did not see the geometry info… I’ll take a look. I have always been the guy that goes to a bike shop and they fit it! So its all new. Definitely pick up on your experience in biking! So website buying of a bike at more than 4k is a bit worrisome lol.
When looking for video ideas consider going over all the upgrades you have done. So helpful to us inexperienced bikers! Take care ! cheers and thank you!
Thanks for the suggestion. I think I briefly touch on some, but I like the idea of doing a video specifically discussing the upgrades/changes. 👍🏻 I'll see if I can find the geometry link for you.
Thanks for your videos. I'm a big dude as well, 6'3 300lbs. I have a lot of hills where I live and was originally going to get the Ariel Rider Grizzly, but it has dual hub motors. Your and johnnynerdout's videos convinced me to go with the Beast with the mid drives.
Thank you for the positive support!
The Beast is great and I have no regrets. I think you will feel the same way. The 1000w mid-drive motor is crazy powerful and I can get up to 30 mph in a snap.
I'm planning a 3-day weekend trip on it next weekend rain or shine (forecast says chance of rain), so stay tuned! 👍🏻
@@twowheeltim do you suggest a voltage or battery % to know when jts a good time to turn around and head home? Was thinking 65% to be safe
That's a tough one because there are so many variables the impact battery usage. If you mostly use PAS 1 and 2, you could get 60-70 miles. If you use PAS 3-5 it will definitely drain faster; especially if you use the throttle.
I feel like 60-65% is a good turnaround point until you get a better understanding for how your size, riding style/preferences, and terrain impact your battery usage.
And I still don't have a great understanding for how voltage equates to battery percentage...🤷🏼♂️ 🤣
I'll second that estimate!
In practice, I notice that _higher_ assist levels get more miles per Wh expended, once the Voltage drops below 48V. The m620 _really_ performs better (& runs cooler!) at higher Voltages.
(Rumor has it, it was designed for 60V but ships with smaller mosfets\capacitors on its integrated controller, because they're more efficient for lower voltage setups...)
Oh. My beast came with a G510 Bafang. I guess similar motor then the M620 I clocked over 3000 miles this year. I'm now owner of 3 ebikes. I like the beast the best
Do you mean a Frey Beast, rather than the Biktrix? (The Frey Beast comes with a Bafang m620 motor & integrated motor controller set up for 60V.)
Oh, & g510 _is_ m620: one refers to the motor itself, the other refers to the integrated motor+controller combo.
@@prophetzarquon Biktrix Beast 2
@@prophetzarquon I've replaced the chainring to a 48 tooth on the beast 2. And I will be carrying a 3rd battery with me. Biktrix are selling those batteries for $599 now. I don't think they sell the Beast 2 any longer.
@@bergmanst Nice. I went with the Frey (AM1000 v5) because it's full suspension & good components, with one 1KWh battery. I see a lot of Biktrix ebikes though & they're pretty great! The m620 is one of the very best ebike motors out there
I would be confident in any trip 30-35 miles using half pedal assist. If you go visit a friend or something you can toss the Chargers in a bag on the rear rack and charge up for the ride home later.
Definitely. The chargers are pretty compact for travel. I recently bought a solar panel with charge controller that plugs directly into my bike. It fully charged from 19% in less than 8 hours. With the solar panel and charge controller weighing less than 17 lbs, it's definitely something I plan to utilize by doing camping trips on the eBike. 👍🏻
ruclips.net/video/UwiFHhqH_SY/видео.html
GREAT VIDEO!
Thank you!
All good and well, but what does it really mean? What battery spec? What motor size ? Etc
Two 47v 15ah batteries (dual battery). 1000 watt motor.
If you actually watch some of my earlier videos, I discuss ALL of this. I'm not going to lay out the same specs over and over each time I make a new video.
@@twowheeltim ACTUALLY thankyou thankyou so much. That is all the info required to complete the picture.
I'd be interested to know the battery voltage at the ride's end.
Unfortunately, I didn't check.
@@twowheeltim - Hey brother, I do enjoy your videos. My I suggest setting your display to voltage rather than a percentage as it's far my accurate. (my Biktrix read 100% for a week until I checked the voltage which was at 53.x volts). Safe travels.
How’s it going do you use a bike rack for your bike for transportation? If so what do you use or recommend
I have only done a few short trips with the rack, but I bought the 1-Up Super Duty rack. It holds up to 225 lbs for two bikes, and our bikes combined weigh in at about 160 lbs without the batteries; always remove the batteries. I'll be doing a review on my rack soon, but I have several other videos in my queue first.
Here's a link to the 1-Up Super Duty: www.1up-usa.com/product/2in-super-duty-double-bike-rack/
Note that I don't make commission and am not sponsored in any way. ✌🏻
I found the same problem when I got to 30% I lost a lot of torque and I was coming back from riding to Elkhorn Slough on the beach the whole way from Aptos and I live up in the woods by the post office and it was hard getting all the way home of the hill thanks for your demos else we know there’s nothing wrong with the bike 90 miles that would never happen in 1 million years
Cool! A local! 👍🏻 I'm planning a 3-day Easter weekend ride from Santa Cruz to Monterey. I'm going to do a 3-part video with day 1 showing the preparation and ride, day 2 ride on 17 Mile Drive, and then day 3 pack up and ride home; most likely via Elkhorn Slough. I've mentioned "a 3-day ride" in a couple of my latest videos, but this is the first time I shared specifics with anyone because most viewers would have no clue where I'm talking about! 😆
Thanks for your support!!
Just got my juggernaut ultra beast 2. My question is what’s your max speed set to? My bafang display has the speed and tire size blocked…
Mine is actually blocked, too, but when I ordered it the website said the max was 28mph. I can go quite a bit faster on flats (up to 34mph so far).
I use the trottle at take off a lot of the times. But I don't use the throttle while pedaling the bike. I leave it in PAS 2 most of the time. I still achive a lot of distance in PAS 2. Most of my rides are 25 miles to 32 miles with over 70% battery life left to use. Same bike as yours.
Yeah, I'm not a huge throttle fan. I only did the video because a lot of commenters had asked about throttle use, distance, etc. It's funny because it's one of my most watched videos, too. 😆
It was a good to experience using only throttle, but I'll stick to PAS for 99.9% of my riding. 👍🏻
Great videos
Question for you how do you remove the rear tire?
The Beast has a thru-axle that just threads out, and then you need to deflate the tire and use tire levers to remove the tire. I've done a few videos where I've showed this process in various stages. I'll post a link to each video separately.
E-Bike Ride | Burley Trailer & Biktrix Ultra Beast 2 Compatibility Test | Ep. 4
ruclips.net/video/NZICKlqZ3EU/видео.html
E-Bike Ride | Testing the Vee Speedster 26 x 3.5 Tires | Biktrix Juggernaut Ultra Beast 2 | Ep. 5
ruclips.net/video/RcfIsIe2SBo/видео.html
E-Bike Ride | Getting the Broken Spoke Repaired | Wheel Removal & Reinstall | Ep. 11
ruclips.net/video/GDZ1D53FvXQ/видео.html
I hope these help. 👍🏻
Thanks for your video, what gear and pas level are you using with throttle only on flat ground? Keep riding cheers@ ps just curious what is your weight 😉
Hi Lou! Thanks so much for your positive support. For the throttle only video, I'm not using PAS until the very end when I started running out of battery and torque. At that point, I was using PAS 3. It's important to note that the PAS level has no impact on the throttle of the mid-drive motor (at least this one). The significance of shifting your gears while using throttle only is huge, and I was using the mid-range gears on the flats (6-9). Also, the motor has a cutoff switch, similar to a clutch, when you shift gears, so this minimizes stress on the chain and you need not release the throttle under most conditions while shifting. I would, however, think twice about this if I were climbing an extreme hill using only throttle.
Regarding my weight, I actually mention this is several of my previous videos because it's extremely important. In fact, the whole reason I started making videos about my e-bike is because when I was trying to decide on an e-bike, most people doing e-bike reviews are probably half my size and no one ever addresses height, weight, etc.
So, long story long, I'm 6'-1" and I started out around 322 lbs. I've since dropped 25 lbs and counting, so I'm really anticipating getting even more longevity! In fact, you'll probably notice I looked a bit heavier in my first couple videos. 😆
Stay tuned because I'm continuing to plan for more engaging videos very soon! Thank you! 👍🏻
Several shots of the display while running downhill at over 30 mph indicated no amps being used by motor. Did the motor just stop providing power over 28 mph?
Yes, but only because I stopped using the throttle at that speed. Some of the roads were terribly bumpy and I didn't want to push my luck. 😆
What is your battery size?
The Beast has two 48 volt, 15 amp hour batteries.
Oh, I thought check to see if you have taken the motor off yet and grease the gears inside the motor? It's do at between 600 and 800 miles. If your motor start getting louder as you use it, it's time to grease the gears. I had to do mine at 600 miles. World of difference in how it sounds after that. That's really the pain of owning a Bafang mid drive.
Gotcha. 👍🏻 I've watched some pretty cool videos on it and I already purchased the bottom bracket tool. Other than being a pain, it doesn't seem too difficult and I do have some experience with working on bikes. Not sure if I'll do a video on it, though! 😆 Maybe...
@@twowheeltim One thing on the spider ring nut some have trouble with. Keep the chain on and hold the rear brake to break the nut lose. other than that, cakewalk.
I appreciate the input. I've pulled many a crank and chain rings in my day from non-electric bikes, but never from a mid-drive. 👍🏻
@@twowheeltim After watching several youtube videos on greasing the motor I came across ome that suggested using Corn Head Grease from John Deer company. I just so have a JD not far from my house and picked up a tube of it. less than $5. It seems to work well.
My mind hasn't gone that far yet, but thanks for the heads up. I can definitely see it'll need to be a much thicker viscosity than Phill Wood grease! 😆
How many miles do you have on your beast 2 now?? I have over 800 miles on mine as of last week. I had to replace the cassette being the 11th cog went out on it. I find on my batteries they discharge quickly after 60% used even in peddle assist 1. I'm looking at picking up a go pro to video some of my rides in the future. Last week I clocked 118 miles in one week. I'm up here the Northwest where it's not so warm weather wise. But I do manage to ride when it's not raining.
Hey Steven. I have just under 600 miles so far. There was a 3-week span after New Years where I got sick and didn't ride. I'm on the central coast of Cali where the climate stays mild. I know very cold weather can really impact battery longevity. My batteries seem to holding up just fine so far, but we'll see if that changes come spring and summer.
You did throttle only on which pas levels?
PAS level makes no difference when using the throttle on the mid-drive.
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I see. Ur controller works that way. Mines the throttle power output is dependent on pas level
Do you have a hub drive motor? With the mid-drive, shifting your gears makes all the difference, but PAS does nothing. At least, on the M620 motor.
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Mines a mid drive. Throttle output is based on pas level. It might just be how my display controller functions
@@slurpyman20 That's adjustable in the controller settings, if you hook it to a computer: You can pick which PAS mode you want the throttle to use
If u have a programming cable. Its a easy setup to make the throttle follow pas levels. This again increases range by alot as the standard setup for throttle is really bad. Doing some small fixes increases range and give more options of acceleration. Especially if u limit the max throttle to around 1000-1200 W!
Im testing a programming\setup build called Frey "smooth" programming.( for now this seems to make the bike pedal even better more akin to a bosch drive. More responsive and less overtorque\continues speed after pedalling. Again decreasing watt usage.
And i am also experimenting runnig a 21 (1000w) maks draw instead of 30 a max draw and noticing increased range. And less voltage drop\sage.
Btw your bike looks really nice. what is the total wattage of battery?
The Beast has two 48-volt, 15-amp hour batteries integrated into the down tube, and the max output is listed as 1440-watt hours.
Thank you for the info! I'm not too worried about the throttle and PAS levels because I honestly never use the throttle. I prefer pedaling using the PAS levels as I would using the gears of a non-electric bike.
I also have a mountain bike, downhill bike, road bike, cross bike, beach cruiser, and motorcycle. I guess that's why I call myself Two-Wheel Tim! 🤣
Thanks, again, for sharing your insights!! 👍🏻
@@twowheeltim Nice we are similar then. I have 3 frey bafang bikes. and a haibike allmountain and a mondraker bike. Its so awesome:)
If u do like pedalling i still recommend to get a programming cable and check it out.
Fex one can enable a second magnet and get more presice readings.
And the frey smooth i mentioned really makes pedalling much more better like the bosch engines handle:)
Offcourse everyone has their preffered preferences. But the standard programming is pretty basic and normally the throttle isnt even configured- just changing from speed to current make it handle much more like a gas pedal and not like a on off switch.!
Quality battery time on that bike you have if they come with an improved version with 48v 21 amp i would by it in a second.
I do enjoy pedaling. Before I bought my Ultra Beast 2, I borrowed a friend's Sondors 750w hub-drive and was very impressed with how PAS worked; being able to pedal as much or as little as I wanted. The Sondors felt way too small for me, however, and after doing a lot of research I knew I'd prefer a mid-drive over a hub-drive.
I also needed a beefy enough bike to handle my size as I was well over 300 lbs at the time, but I've since dropped about 45 lbs. THAT will definitely help with battery range! 😆
I haven't been disappointed! 👍🏻
Great Video! Your other videos are the reason I bought the beast 2 and just got it last week! Love it and thank you!
Did you use eco 1 to get the most distance out of the battery? Does Pass only effect when you pedal or does it effect throttle only too? Haven’t had enough time on the bike to figure it out yet.
Im about 285 and only have gotten a top speed of around 31 mph. I see you averaged close to that with a top speed of 34 at one point. I wonder if you would have gotten a higher top speed in sport 5.
Again, great videos!!!
Also, when you are using the throttle and shifting, do you let up on the throttle or keep it at full throttle?
Thanks!
Hi Bob. Congrats on getting the Beast! All great questions. PAS level has no impact when using the throttle. When you shift the gears while using the throttle, the motor has a cutoff switch the does a brief pause on the torque to allow the derailleur to shift, and then it picks up again once the shift occurs. It's like an internal clutch, and you don't need to let off the throttle.
I find that the eco setting is plenty powerful enough for me. I live in a fairly mountainous area where you can't ride 20 miles without climbing at least 1,500 feet total. I do try to focus more on distance over speed because I want to ride farther rather than faster. Plus, I can usually get that adrenaline fix on a good descent at least once per ride. 😆
one of the most expensive eBikes :(
True, but it's worth every dime in my opinion.