The only thing this got wrong was the fact that Sakuya cannot reverse time. This is mainly because it is literally impossible to reverse time or see into the future in Gensokyo, as the future is unwritten, and cannot be changed. However, she can summon another version of herself from the timeline that she can instantly create, as well as her last word being able to compress time making it so that the past, present, and future coexist, giving her immeasurable speed. Also, by doing this, all her attacks will hit the enemy at the same time due to the different timelines existing simultaneously.
She technically can reverse time for a specific object or space by speeding it up to oblivion, Sakuya can speed up time as much as she likes, and the only limit is practicallity, because there is always a point in time where the universe is exactly the same as at any given point. Altough this might take 10^10^10^10^1.300 years, (which by the way is 10 billion zeroes per ^10 which is unwritable on any length of paper [not to mention it goes like 10 billion zeroes, 10 trillion zeroes 10 quadrillion zeroes]) thus if Sakuya speeds time to that amount, time reverse or going back can be possible (Poincaree recurrence theorem)
@@zortokwa5972 it was a JJBA joke, she ain't a human, she a youkai or something, if you wanna talk about it ask me tomorrow, I've been listening to cheeki breeki for the past 8 hours and it's 1am so my brain is effectively dead and can't think
Since when can the maid deflect an energy attack, freeze someone with her knives, survive a knife on the heart(or i think is on the heart), and block attacks from someone who is physically stronger than her? And where is Reimu Ssj 9
@@sebastianalvarez1713 well yes, I was talking about her when I made that comment and I still don't know why did you come to that conclusion? Does liking zoom in or out as a meme is immoral?
I subscribed,this animation is realy good and her some fights ideas: Mr. Moon (RUclipsr) vs The Creeper (Jeepers Creepers),Rambo vs Mad Max,Hulk Hogan vs MR. T,Kick-Ass vs Crimson Bolt/Casey Jones,Hit-Girl vs Hitman,Aeon Flux vs Violet(Ultraviolet),Conan the barbarian vs Beowulf,Arnold Schwarzenegger VS Sylvester Stallone,Ip man vs Jackie chan,Bruce Lee vs Rock Lee vs Jet Lee vs Stan Lee,Harry Poter vs Percy Jackson,Star Trek vs Star Wars,X 23 VS Elecktra,Clayface(DC) vs Sand man(Marvel),Human Torch vs FireStorm (Marvel vs DC),Magus(Chrono Trigger) vs Ghirahim(Legend of Zelda series),Zero vs Geno(Super mario),Axl(Megaman X8) vs Shadow the hedgehog,Metal Knight vs Skull Kid(Legend of Zelda series),Rosalina (“Super Mario Bros.”) vs Silver,Power Star Devil Mario vs Mario Bros vs Neo Mario vs Paper Mario,Archie Sonic vs Sonic Exe vs classic Sonic vs Modern Sonic vs Lego Sonic vs Sonic Boom,Miles Tails vs Tails Doll,Wario vs Captain Syrup,Knuckels vs Stick the Badger,Bunnie rabbot vs Vanilla the Rabitt,Rosalina vs Silver the Hedgehog,Emerl the Gizoid vs Gemerls,Princess Elise vs Princess Peach,102 Gama vs E123-Omega,Sally Acorn vs Rouge the Bat,Blaze the Cat vs Princess Daisy,Orbot & Cubot vs Scratch and Grounder,Blaze vs Princess Daisy,Metal Sonic vs Metal Knuckels,Megaman vs Megaman X vs Megaman Star force vs Megaman NT warriors vs MegaMan Volnutt vs Vent(Megaman ZX),Zero vs Omega Zero vs Protoman vs Ailie(Megaman ZX) vs Grey(megaman ZX Advent),Haomaru(Samurai Shodown) vs Hanzo Hattori (World Heroes),Jin Saotome(Cyberbots:Fullmetal Madness) vs Hayato Kanzaki(Hero of the Star Gladiator),Donovan Baine vs Jin Kazama(Tekken),Kokonoe vs Mao(Disgaea 3 Absence of Justice),Rose(Stret fighter) vs Lilith(dark stalkers),Jedah Dohma(dark stalker) vs Gill leader of the Illumanati(stret fighter),Mr karate Takuma Sakazaki vs Gouken,Adam,Axel,Blaze(Final Fight) vs Guy,Cody,Haggar(Streets of Rage),Nightwolf(Mortal Kombat) vs Julia e Michele Chang mãe(Tekken ),Tunder Hawk vs Chief Thunder(Killer Instinct),Yuri Sakazaki(Art of fighters) vs Athena Asamiya,Ryo Sakazaki vs Akira Yuki(Virtua Fighters),Ling Xiaoyu(Tekken) vs Pai Chan(Virtua Fighter),Dural(Virtua) vs Seth(street),Iroha vs Airi(Queen's Blade),Litchi Faye-Ling(Blazblue) vs Jam Kuradoberi,Mai Hazuki(Blazblue) vs Faust(Guilty Gear),Liu Kang vs Jago(Killer Instinct),Twintelle(Arms) vs Cerebella(Skullgirls),Ryu/Ken Masters/Sakura Kasugano/Gouken vs Ryo/Robert Garçia/Takuma/Yuri Sakazaki(Street fighter vs KOF),Axel,Blaze(Final Fight) vs Guy,Cody,Haggar(Streets of Rage),Ryo Sakazaki vs Akira Yuki(Virtua Fighters),Haomaru(Samurai Shodown) vs Hanzo Hattori (World Heroes),Ling Xiaoyu(Tekken) vs Pai Chan(Virtua Fighter),Dural(Virtua) vs Seth(street),Morrigan Aensland vs Dizzy(Guilty Gear),Dragunov (Metal slug attack) vs Leona Heidern(KOF),Rainbow Mika vs Jaycee/Julia Chang(Tekken),Konoe Ayatsuki Mercury(Blazblue) vs I-No(Guilty gear),Elphelt Valentine(Guilty Gear) vs Celica Ayatsuki Mercury,Kokonoe vs Bedman(Guilty Gear),Nightwolf(Mortal Kombat) vs Michele Chang (Tekken ),Tunder Hawk(SF) vs Chief Thunder(Killer Instinct),Rose(Stret fighter) vs Lilith(dark stalkers),Hakumen(BlazBlue) vs Baiken(Guilty Gear),Rugal vs Kazuya Kazama,Withe(Real Bout Garou Densetsu Special Dominated Mind) vs Vega,Terumi(Blazblue) vs That Man(Guilty Gear),Gargos(lord of shadows) vs Firebrand (Ghosts 'n Goblins),SonSon(Mavel vs Campcom) vs Goku (Monkey Typhoon),Rushuna Tendo(Grenadier) vs Rebecca Streisand(Wild Arms 5),Sheik(Legend of Zelda ) vs Ranma Saotome(Ranma 1/2),Akane(Ranma 1/2) vs Makoto(stret fighter),Rosette Christopher(Chrono Crusade) vs Bridget (guilty gear),DareDevil(Marvel) vs Evil Rose(Rumble Roses),Benikage(The Rumble Roses) vs Kitana,Asura(Asura Wrath) vs Gene(God Hand),Leona Heidern vs Blair Dame(Stret EX),Sakura Kanbaru vs Asuka Kazama,Karin Kanzuki vs Emilie De Rochefort,Nina Williams(Tekken) vs Ayane(Dead or Alive),Dudley(Stret fighter) vs King(KOF),Raven(Tekken) vs C.Viper(KOF),Alicia Winston (Time Crisis 3) vs Sniper Wolf (Metal Gear Solid),Quiet Silences(Metal Gear Solid V:The Phantom Pain ) vs Yelena Fedorova(Deus Ex: Human Revolution),Bison vs Akuma vs Shaokan vs Sheng sun vs Rugal vs Geese vs Heihachi vs Ogre vs Fulgore vs Dural
Finally, another decent animation- but it feels weird that this fight is very Dragon Ball Z inspired- despite it being an entirely different franchise. Also since when did Shadow get energy attacks? Doesn't he use a gun instead? Sakuya best maid tho
Well sakuya can create different time lines, make them happen at same time, making question the whole time fabric. I don't even think Sakuya is remotely human, but apparently she is...well then. You can't beat Sakuya with time, not even if you are the super ultra duper god of time. It's like trying to kill Natsu (fairy tail) with fire, same result.
@Dung Tran Quang She would handle Sonic In Base Form,But if sonic turn into his super form,there is no chance for Sakuya to win this Also Who is Nerfed here is Shadow,even the game Shadow can beat her since he have an unlimited source of power and to limit this power he use The inhibitor rings to not risk your body of such power
@Dung Tran Quang Renember that Sonic can still use his Ultra form which is stated to be High Multiversal in The Archie Comics encyclopedia Super Sonic defeated Enerjak who has power to destroy thousands of universes Sonic can use a power of a ring that prevents him from existance erasure Archie Sonic in his comics survived against a Destroyed reality You can do your researches to find that Also I recommend you this video: ruclips.net/video/OX9DCeX_CI4/видео.html
Nice fight. I never thought about if Shadow or any sonic character were in Gensokyo til now. That would actually be interesting. Btw, what is the name of the very first song that plays? It sounds really epic and I could get some nice ideas from it.
@@lunariansoup9635 not fully, she cant rewind time but can rewind the position of an object, she's also limited to stop her own time (age) but not others. Asides from that im not aware of she being incapable of doing pretty much everything else
Well, Aya has over MFTL+ speed. (possibly her speed is ∞) And Sonic has FTL speed and being super sonic is FTL+ (Probably MFTL) i guess we know who is faster. (plus, Aya can fly without limitations, Sonic can fly with his Super Sonic form)
@@terraelaweonao yeah, she did a race with Remilia too, they go to the Moon and go back, Aya won... so the misile scene from the sonic movie is wrong too!
@@KirbyJason210 Nope. Sakuya claimed she was in her late teens. Most Touhou characters are underage. Or, well, most of the yokai have a mindset and body of a child but can be like 600 years old.
This is a...interesting match up for sure. Though Sakuya most likely takes the cake. Even if Shadow turned Super Shadow. I can't see him beating Sakuya. (Maybe in terms of power and speed but Sakuya can keep up with other Touhou characters who move at MFTL+ speeds so the speed difference between the two shouldn't be life ending) And overall Sakuya has more control over time than Shadow does. And (ignoring the spell card rules since this is a death match with no rules) Sakuya can most likely stop time forever. (The only thing she can't do is return an object back to the way it was. Basically kinda like reverse time...but. Technically she can reverse time, she just can't reverse damage done to her surroundings. It's...weird to explain.) Overall I think Sakuya wins.
I don't keep up with Sonic lore, but including super forms seems like such a strange thing to me. Can every character go super using the chaos emeralds (Or other items of power)? If the answer is yes, then Super Sonic, Shadow, etc. aren't really abilities. You've just given them performance enhancing drugs. To my knowledge, none of them actually own the chaos emeralds either. So they shouldn't be expected to keep them on hand in these fights.
@@MrCaneron The way (most) vs battles work is we take characters at their peak. Which is why you see people mention super forms. Or power ups, whatever. Since all this is what if, we want the battle to be on equal footings. It would be unfair if one character holds an advantage simply because another character is inconsistent with what they have. (In some games Sonic has the emeralds and then loses them for example Sonic Unleashed, in other games Sonic has to find the emeralds, for example Sonic the hedgehog 2.) The only way for characters to go super is through chaos emeralds. (Or technically super emeralds.) We only know that Sonic Shadow And Silver can go Super with the emeralds. Hyper Knuckles and Super Tails happened with the super emeralds and they're noncanon now. The closest we got was the yellow bubble in sonic heroes which...isn't really a super form. But yeah. Usually people always use Sonic and his Super Sonic form as a pair. Same goes for Shadow.
@@Wutizgoing What made the super emeralds noncanon? I wasn't aware the Sonic series had such a strict continuity. It seems kind of weird that only hedgehogs would be able to make full use of the emeralds though (Even if Shadow has more alien than hedgehog DNA in him if I remember correctly).
@@MrCaneron The game events is canon. But Hyper Sonic is not. (Yet, could change). I don't remember the exact reason but it could've been because of the issue. (Hyper caused seizures which put Sega in deep waters.). As for the Super Emeralds, they were only added because of the fusion. (Sonic3 and Sonic&Knuckles) they don't appear in either games but appear in the fused product. Most likely because...it would be weird having missing pieces. (You collect 7 emeralds but then there is still so much game left.). The Super emeralds outside that one game never made an appearance again or were even mentioned at all in games or lore. I did make a mistake however. Super Tails and Knuckles are probably canon. I forgot Sonic Mania was a thing and I believe they were brought back for that game. Same with Mighty and Ray. So there are other characters who can use the Super Form. The now total confirmed cases are Sonic Shadow Silver Tails Knuckles Mighty Ray Mecha Sonic (Sorry for the misinformation in my other post. I completely forgot about Sonic Mania.)
Man, the guys in the comments are using the Vs Battles wiki thinking that it will rock the arguments "Ah, instead of going to the official sources ... ah! I already know! I will use a wiki where people put what they think without any connection none!." Congratulations, you won the argument battle. 😳
Sakuya Izayoi cannot defeat the shadow and the super transformation is infinite, even if Sakuya Izayoi controls the space time, it would not affect the stability of the shadow since it has chaos control
I really wish I could like your comment 100xs cuz I 100% agree shadow in super form can manipulate time without breaking a sweat shadow is the ultimate life form plus having all 7 chaos emerald can also be used to reverse time I remember that in 06 story but some ppl never seen it probably complaining "too many glitches" fuck the glitches I played the game regardless and has alot of good point when involving the chaos emeralds
@i forget to add name Who exactly in the Sonic universe would be able to go up against her and stand a chance? And don't just say everyone, give me specific examples and explain why they would be able to beat her.
Good Video! but god these comments are hard to read lol. It's either A: somebody just being like "sakuya does this thing and insta wins" or B: somebody trying to explain how powerful shadow is, but with pretty bad hard to read grammar, making it look like mega fanboyism.
That thing sure is faster it's just not moving all the time (from sakuyas perspective) Also stopping time effectively gives you teleportation and telekinesis in a stupid way
@@scabatbat9099 that's false logic. An overpowered character is not considered to be "bad" if that character is developed correctly. Moreover, Sakuya is only mid-tier on Touhou power scale. Your character might be one of the strongest from your franchise but other franchises have different power scales. Thanos is also overpowered, does that make him a bad character? And Chara? Asriel? Don't make such assumptions please.
@@A1Plus4 sonic(more specifically Archie sonic) can literally do the same thing in his super and ultra form by using Chaos control, turning dreams into reality. Heck sonic has survived being erased thanks to the 1 billionth ring aura, not to mention having plot manipulation and literal plot armor. Plus he's also an Author-level character... I can't even make this up even I tried. Not to mention he outran a time stopper in base form, even saying "too slow"
@@cirnosnumberfan6449 plus shadow has unlimited amount of chaos control aaand is able to go back in time too I guess since 06 was so glitchy no one paid attention what shadow is capable of and yall need to get your facts straight I'm so tired of seeing ppl like her that just cuz she can manipulate time shes obviously gonna win news flash shadow can still use chaos control during her time freeze soooooooo like I said get the facts right before declaring a winner
list all the reasons how shadow could survive being wiped from all of time (and by extension, all of existence) by sakuya, an individual who has *total* power over time and is capable of doing *anything* with it, all except reverse it.
Honestly I already expected Shadow to lose. Touhou characters (specially characters like Sakuya, Reimu, Marisa and Yukari) are just too powerful. Still, it was fun to watch this
As much as I hate to admit it after extensive research sakuya would beat shadow This includes archie shadow who while he has incredible power in base form can not compete with sakuya's powers as they work on the conceptual level this has to do with universal power scaling in gensokyo monsters who can eat time, destroy absolutely, and fucking *float* above everything are common everyday mobs, hell one of the laughably weakest can achieve temperatures of absolute zero While some enemies in the sonic comics have reached this level, enerjak, they are incredibly rare so heroes only need to reach that level during the fight itself, this gives rise to a temporary power up, chaos energy and whatnot, sadly sakuya's year round conceptual powers beat out super shadow's temporary conceptual powers sakuya simply has too much survivability and can Outlast the transformations
Nah Sakuya is actually underated, you guys understimate Sakuya too much, Touhou characters are so op they got nerfed by themselves. Sakuya can make past,present,future exist in same moment, erase someone's existance, if she dies she spawns from another timeline, she survived the pression from a black hole. Same thing i said for Dio, you CAN'T fight Sakuya with time tecniques it doesn't matter if oppoent is a time lord, god, super uber op time controller, Sakuya does what the f**k she wants with time. In order to beat her you need some kind of reality warper, boundary manipulator like Yukari. Reimu defeated her because she can fly past reality and because she is obviously way stronger than shadow can ever be.
@@MajinAdell you don't need a reality warper to beat sakuya lmao, any character with better feats (like archie shadow) than her can win, no reality warping needed
I actually can't reverse time just to let you know, and if I did it would kill me. I can only stop, slow, acclerate, deflate, erase, and make the past and future exist both at thr same time. Not to mention I also rule over space as well...
@@mellyalyna6623 I can't erase the existence of people no. I can only erase the time of the present. So think of it as skipping time. I'm just merely snipping away the present with nobody remembering what even happened
@@bruh-_-7219 Oh shit don't mind previous reply I send you if you got the notification, I didn't check the video and thought you were talking about Dio vs Sakuya lol
In reality, Sakuya would not win for the simple reason that chaos control can also completely control both royalty and time, plus you forget That the super form is invulnerable to attacks and that shadow didn't even use all his abilities Plus he's faster than sakuya :/,Sakuya is strong but she is not at shadow's level
I think Super shadow should be able to keep up with her speed for a bit but the power edge that Sakuya has over him is way to much she is mutiversal Shadow in base form is muti planet level at best and super shadow should be at best a Muti solar system level but archie shadow is a different story
Well there a debate about Super shadow being 1/3 universal because of solaris is universal and it took 3 super hedgehogs to beat him so yeah.But Archie Shadow is a different story
From what I could find I found out that Game sonic in base form is 2000c so using the 1000 times multiplier by Super sonic that comes to 2000000c making Shadow around that speed so that is fast and it might be able to keep up and even if super shadow was multiversal Sakuya can turn back time stop time and fast forward it now what about Hyper Shadow still even with Hyper Shadow it would not make a difference he gets no new abilities and his time limit
@@hanktoney3741 sonic, shadow and silver has type 1 acausality which prevent them to be affected with space time paradoxes. Solaris and Sonic06 IS CANON, crisis city was in Generations and in sonic riders Sonic remembers the events of sonic06. Also Solaris is Multiversal and Sakuya never showed such feats.
I think Shadow should won this battle since Sakuya can't reverse time, Super Shadow is Invunerable to all Sakuya's attack and Sakuya can't even counter Shadow's attack(even with her knives) since Super form is beyond Super Saiyan, and this part 2:58 is where she can't even counter a chaos powers with just kicking it.
I don't know much about Super Shadow, so I can't tell if her attacks would indeed work or not, same for how much his attack would work on her, however... it doesn't matter to her. She indeed can't reverse time, but she can do everything else that is possible to do with time. She stop it, slow it, speed it, stretch it, compress it, erase it. And since space and time are one and the same she can do the same with space. She respect the Spell Card Rules, so won't do anything too crazy, but well she has millions of way to dodge that slow strong attack that she won't just counter by kicking, and just as many ways to kill Shadow when he isn't Super Shadow. He isn't Super Shadow forever, she can outlast him, can speed it up until it wears off, can make it so past present and future exist at the same time by compressing space time so could still hurt him in the past despite not being able to reverse time, and even if he was born as Super Shadow and stay that way forever, well she would stop respecting the rules since he isn't fair, and could just erase his present and future (which would be closer to skipping his life than erasing it, like instantly reaching your future death).
@@para9938 shadow can actually manipulate time and space and other chaos abilities and fought solaris an equal to sakuya and speeding time to kill shadow is useless since he ha immortality type 1
@@Therealcriticalideology okay but so did Vegeta + Cell's personality is nothing like Shadow. Only similarity they have is that they are both creations from a lab
@@onlyechadtherebellious2467 I say he is more based on cell because cell calls himself the perfect being. He was made to be such, and shadow the hedgehog was made to be that as well. His character is more like cell when we are comparing their profiles. Not their personalities. And yes, I am aware. Shadow the hedgehog is nothing like vegeta or cell. Even combined.
Yea she should be able to cause she "Manipulates Time" only thing is it's the spell card rules that prevent her from using all her capabilities, if she didn't have spell card rules she'd be able to reverse time, but Sonic fan boys are retarded they don't know shit about Touhou they talk about Yukari, and downplay the fuck out of sakuya.
Bread Breadington Look at this SIMP Also sonic survived time erasure and is 6d in super or base so time stop doesn’t work and since shadow is like almost as powerful as sonic he could survive time erasure too
@@theboominghypes2521 1. *If not for the laws of this land, Sakuya would have slaughtered me.* 2. Imagine "simp" 3. in what fucking dimension is super sonic 6 dimensional, the comics aren't canon and therefore weren't taken into account in this, plus I've already mentioned 06 I S N ' T canon.
Black Son But what’s that going to do for her, shadow defeated Solaris who was literally destroying the existing timelines and shadow defeated him Solaris>>>>>>>Sakuya, Shadow>>>>>>>>>>>Sakuya Edit: Shadow - Muiltversal to high muiltversal, Sakuya - Large star level
Black Son That is the biggest wank ever, she should be superior to yukari with that power by what you’re saying dude remilia>>>>>>>Sakuya like cmon touhou is overwanked yukari is fodder when it comes to the sonic verse.. Edit: Shes never done anything like that wth..
Black Son That is the dumbest logic ever, by what you’re saying you say that yukari is above dc comics so she can destroy beyonder? Stop wanking, remilia is not that powerful compared to characters from more OP series than the sonic verse. Sonic in the comics manipulates fate better than remilia.. and it does not matter about the spell cards honestly yukari is weak compared to enerjak from the sonic comics..
first. 1) Tricky is from Madness Combat, not from FNF. 2) Sakuya destroys Tricky and here are the reasons: -Sakuya can time stop and can slow time, accelerate it and compress it. -Sakuya is way more durable than Hank, Sanford, Deimos and Jebus. -Sakuya is way more faster (Massively faster than light), meanwhile Tricky is Supersonic at best.
@@fadingshade5097 going back and forth through the entire comment section kept wanking sakuya and yukari and lowballed shadow and sonic even the archies, shows that half of the 2hu fanbase wank their characters
@Cirnium lol shadow scales to solaris who is super dimensional being who was about to consume all the existing timelines making the time collapse into nothingness and eating dimensions for launch also super shadow is equal to super sonic who beat beings like time eater a time god who was damaging the universe by just moving and tearing the time , egg wizard who was sustaing Sonic's universe and blaze's universe including their space-time and merge them together
bruh u just like sakuya sakuya cant push this ball with her leg and when he hited her with the normal balls she didnt get any dmge and sakuya does not have this powers she cant push this big ball with her leg or dont get any dmge from shadow's attacks like i said u prob like sakuya thats all if sonic.exe fighted sakuya i bet he will win or if sonic turned to the shadow transformation all of his body gets black the billy only is normal and white glowing eyes with a white lightning and if sonic.exe also used his power or his super saiyan transformation they would beat sakuya easily
no i don;t like her at all :D a lot people said she so powerful, and you can watch she vs dio, she vs frisk and chara, she alway win o.o and some people said she already spit anime verse
well she cant win on goku even she lost when she was fightning hit and goku is stronger than hit so what do u expect from vegeta and goku and gohan and those characters dbz is the coolest strongest anime have the strongest characters
@Black Son if she can do that then why didnt she do it in the anime bcuz she cant and also sans can just blue soul her and summon a circle of giant blasters on her and then he can blast her and shes already controled with the blue soul and she cant move or teleport or use any of her skills
I mean it was kind of obvious that shadow would lose but if probably pinned sakuya against sonic or something im pretty sure sonic would probably win im not 100% sure though.
@@orphic-3766 Sakuya has a lot more tricks than only "Stop the Time" She can slow it down, speed it up, compress it, delete it, etc. is cappable to create and destroy timelines effortless. Can move at MFTL speed (She is faster than Suika, who can move at 2,6*10^175 FTL)
And to be honest i think sonic is faster than sakuya, while she can stop time sonic can just use light speed dash or chaos control and if thats not enough he can just use darkspine sonic and use the soul gage
@@orphic-3766 Hah... You want me to really argue, don't ya? Well, you'll suffer because I'll tell you everything. i'm have summarized the info into this
Disappointed? Why would ZUN be disappointed, Time Manipulation is meant to Stop time and yea since sakuya has chrono-kinesis, Sakuya can just forward time, slow down time, and possibly reverse it but on a limited scale her time reversal is limited, but the rest aren't is what I've seen, and heard anyways, Sakuya can "compress time making past and future meet" so I see no reason of why she shouldn't be able to reverse time, also then again why would he be disappointed if, the outcome of this sprite animation is accurate you dumb idiot. use right choice of sentences not only that but you spelled disappointed wrong.
@@mellyalyna6623 That isn't the reasonings, the reasoning is cause her ability of "Manipulation of Time" Space and Chrono-Kinesis It's said she should be able to reverse time but on a limited scale, she can stop time indefinitely, she can slow down time, she can clone and even compress time by making past and future meet into the present has knifes that pierce space and time causality of fabric of reality it's said in lost word, she can do that hell, in most games she's capable of launching bullet hell knifes out of all timelines that are compressed proof on how she pierced the timelines in order for that to happen gaps are of time piercing, and which sakuya did do that, sakuya can fly faster than shadow she can time stop and warp your objects back at you erased existences even with the spell card rules that limit her she's capable of so much she's not weak, if she can easily just erase timelines hell It's even stated she has a certain level of acausality, since she pierced causality there will be no effect or causes but it's only limited reversal cause of Gensokyo spell card battle rules but this if she fights someone else that doesn't have spell cards that isn't from her universe like yes shadow for example he'd get one shotted, sakuya said she's fast enough to make time freeze... and she should be able to reverse time to the full extent against every other character, just not in touhou get it guys?? forget about the limited extent that's only when she's in her own world. By world i meant verse cause Touhou is about nerf while if she was out of her world she'd have access to her time manipulation entirely
Well, she can't reverse the time because Gensokyo's laws and physics. In other universes she probably can do it. Btw, she can easily just erase Shadow from the existence (Delete the timeline and create a new one without Shadow in or just delete his future)
Just gonna say she can reverse time she’s not in gensyoko meaning she isn’t bound by the laws there and since shadow doesn’t have spell card rules sakuya could literally just freeze time and slash his head off
@Cirnium shadow already destroyed a time user example solaris, and Sakuya is like Solaris and shadow is immune to erasure and is also faster than sakuya, this battle lowballed shadow in every way
@Cirnium lol shadow,sonic and sliver defeated Solaris who exist in the past present and future shadow defeated Solaris in the past, sonic defeated him in the present and silver defeated him in the future so no it will not work again, and shadow is faster than sakuya cuz he scales to sonic.
The only thing this got wrong was the fact that Sakuya cannot reverse time. This is mainly because it is literally impossible to reverse time or see into the future in Gensokyo, as the future is unwritten, and cannot be changed. However, she can summon another version of herself from the timeline that she can instantly create, as well as her last word being able to compress time making it so that the past, present, and future coexist, giving her immeasurable speed. Also, by doing this, all her attacks will hit the enemy at the same time due to the different timelines existing simultaneously.
@Mana Wata STFU
@@sebastianalvarez1713 Tf why were you so mad 😂 he was literaly making a joke
She technically can reverse time for a specific object or space by speeding it up to oblivion, Sakuya can speed up time as much as she likes, and the only limit is practicallity, because there is always a point in time where the universe is exactly the same as at any given point. Altough this might take 10^10^10^10^1.300 years, (which by the way is 10 billion zeroes per ^10 which is unwritable on any length of paper [not to mention it goes like 10 billion zeroes, 10 trillion zeroes 10 quadrillion zeroes]) thus if Sakuya speeds time to that amount, time reverse or going back can be possible (Poincaree recurrence theorem)
Marx do you have a discord ?
@@Catgatroid Do you have discord ?
THIS IS FREAKIN' AWESOME!
Finally the accurate match, you're a great animator, even without taking the result into account i like the choreography of this fight way more
thanks ^__^
Nope base Shadow negs Sakuya and her verse.
@@Jayfym912stop the wank
@@Jayfym912 facts
You clearly don't know anything about Touhou. your information came from out of your ass@@Jayfym912
Do u got discord? I'm making a sonic vs sakuya...
0:37 *_Nobody can deflect the emerald splash!_*
Don't JOJOke on me *D:
@@zortokwa5972 it was a JJBA joke, she ain't a human, she a youkai or something, if you wanna talk about it ask me tomorrow, I've been listening to cheeki breeki for the past 8 hours and it's 1am so my brain is effectively dead and can't think
@@Minty_Mentos_ but wiki say sakuya is ordinary human
John cena: are you sure about that.?
@@mellyalyna6623 DON'T JOJOke us *D:
Sakuya > Shadow
Archie Shadow > Sakuya
Rimuru Tempest normal mode Sakuya > Archie shadow
Hard mode Sakuya > Archie shadow
Lunatic mode Sakuya > super Archie shadow
nope
@@saraskyline8331 what about hyper archie shadow?
mete genç hmm hyper might be able to beat Sakuya but still characters like Reimu or Yukari could destroy hyper Archie shadow
@@saraskyline8331 well of course your talking about gods shadow is just a random hedahog monster
when you annoy ur silbling and whwn you realize that ur alone with them:
Since when can the maid deflect an energy attack, freeze someone with her knives, survive a knife on the heart(or i think is on the heart), and block attacks from someone who is physically stronger than her? And where is Reimu Ssj 9
Ikr? Bullshit!
@@dvousmenace5438 ye
Dio will also win her too
En la pelea contra Youmu la nerfean xD
@@foxhmaster3278 Damn I'm late, but dio loses to sakuya my guy she has Hella op powers that dio can't win against
Im pretty sure in one of the tohou figthing games sakuya can frezee someone with her knifes
Fun fact: Sakuya wont die if she gets stabbed like that at the end, so will shadow. Since he is immortal
OMG!!!!
If anyone wanna see a better sprite animation version of this ask what my discord is..
I like how it zooms in at 4:20
Pervert
@@majorlucasgaming-rg6mh maybe... Just maybe
@@sebastianalvarez1713 late reply, probably you won't bother reading it but, I don't know why did you come to that conclusion?
@@peaveejay2700 just see the moment when you say that, and it's look like you are talking about sakuya...
@@sebastianalvarez1713 well yes, I was talking about her when I made that comment and I still don't know why did you come to that conclusion? Does liking zoom in or out as a meme is immoral?
This is a fucking Blazblue reference!?(gluttony fang)
Sakuya:
Bites the dust
I subscribed,this animation is realy good and her some fights ideas:
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"Some Ideas"
what the fuck
is this a joke comment
What the hell...?
*Jotaro vs. Dio*
*in a nutshell*
Finally, another decent animation- but it feels weird that this fight is very Dragon Ball Z inspired- despite it being an entirely different franchise. Also since when did Shadow get energy attacks? Doesn't he use a gun instead? Sakuya best maid tho
Thanks for the knowledge, also everybody has their own opinions. Shadow is not the god of time, he is the hedgehog of time 😃
Again, opinions
Let us just have our separate opinions, this argument could go on and on...
Well sakuya can create different time lines, make them happen at same time, making question the whole time fabric. I don't even think Sakuya is remotely human, but apparently she is...well then. You can't beat Sakuya with time, not even if you are the super ultra duper god of time. It's like trying to kill Natsu (fairy tail) with fire, same result.
MajinAdell She is human but she isn’t an ordinary human at all
i made a test if you wanna see it....
the fact that sakuya can just stop time and kill him is crazy
yea her knifes pierce space and time this hax
I asked because I'd like to share my part with u since u did shadow vs sakuya
oh this my discord.. Mellyana#0274
I friended my username is Sakuya Izayoi
so it's "Sakuyaizayoi#0989"@@mellyalyna6623
I friended you... Just so you know...@@mellyalyna6623
Btw I'm still waiting on your request back at me ):@@mellyalyna6623
Ya should have nerfed more as everyone does XD but it was a very nice fight.
She is no Monster, She is a Powerful Human being.
Cylia Margatroid she is a diversion not a human
But we can all agree archie sonic would decimate her
@Dung Tran Quang She would handle Sonic In Base Form,But if sonic turn into his super form,there is no chance for Sakuya to win this
Also Who is Nerfed here is Shadow,even the game Shadow can beat her since he have an unlimited source of power and to limit this power he use The inhibitor rings to not risk your body of such power
@Dung Tran Quang Renember that Sonic can still use his Ultra form which is stated to be High Multiversal in The Archie Comics encyclopedia
Super Sonic defeated Enerjak who has power to destroy thousands of universes
Sonic can use a power of a ring that prevents him from existance erasure
Archie Sonic in his comics survived against a Destroyed reality
You can do your researches to find that
Also I recommend you this video:
ruclips.net/video/OX9DCeX_CI4/видео.html
@Dung Tran Quang I´ve never heard of Sakuya having imortality,where did you find that?
If you have a proof then face me
Nice fight. I never thought about if Shadow or any sonic character were in Gensokyo til now. That would actually be interesting.
Btw, what is the name of the very first song that plays? It sounds really epic and I could get some nice ideas from it.
DARLING in the FRANXX -Strelizia- Awakening BGM :D
@@mellyalyna6623 Darling in the Franxx!? I never would have guessed. But anyways, thank you
@@mellyalyna6623 btw. If you haven't heard it already, listen to Unfathomed Force from Ao no Kiseki Evolution. You might like it
Sakuya WINS!!
She is awesome at manipulating time.
@giorgio giovanna definitly not
@@darkwolts Yeaah. True. It goes a little something like this. Base shadow > sakuya.
Sees ending:
Me: OHHHHH MY GOOOD SHADOW GOT THAT INTELLIGENCE!!!
What he did
Song name?
Darling in the Franxx - Vanquish (OST)
Good job even though sakuya can't rewind time. She still wins though because the type of shadow hasn't been shown to us
@Mana Wata ¿chaos Control?
@Mana Wata Ra warudo or Za warudo?
@Mana Wata xd
Doesn't she have complete manipulation over time?
@@lunariansoup9635 not fully, she cant rewind time but can rewind the position of an object, she's also limited to stop her own time (age) but not others.
Asides from that im not aware of she being incapable of doing pretty much everything else
0/10 not enough knifes :v
Next time: Sonic vs Aya, who is the fastest?
#Touhou4Smash
Well, Aya has over MFTL+ speed. (possibly her speed is ∞)
And Sonic has FTL speed and being super sonic is FTL+ (Probably MFTL)
i guess we know who is faster.
(plus, Aya can fly without limitations, Sonic can fly with his Super Sonic form)
@@terraelaweonao yeah, she did a race with Remilia too, they go to the Moon and go back, Aya won... so the misile scene from the sonic movie is wrong too!
@@Tulipia5 Yep.
@im big WHEN is transformed, in the basic state is FTL and in Super Sonic is FTL+
@im big Evidence?
Vegeta The Hedgehog Vs DIO as a maid
Ye shadow would be most likekyly vegeta xD
Waifu? She's 16,,
@@hannahbg1852 16? I don't think she's 16 tho...from what I can tell she's either 20 or older....most Touhou characters are like that
@@KirbyJason210 Nope. Sakuya claimed she was in her late teens. Most Touhou characters are underage.
Or, well, most of the yokai have a mindset and body of a child but can be like 600 years old.
@@hannahbg1852 tbh we don't really know her age either
HAHA IM NOT FALLING FOR THAT AT 1:14 YOU USED DUDLEY’S VOICE FROM STREET FIGHTER 3
zaki1500 you meant 1:29
This is a...interesting match up for sure. Though Sakuya most likely takes the cake.
Even if Shadow turned Super Shadow. I can't see him beating Sakuya. (Maybe in terms of power and speed but Sakuya can keep up with other Touhou characters who move at MFTL+ speeds so the speed difference between the two shouldn't be life ending)
And overall Sakuya has more control over time than Shadow does. And (ignoring the spell card rules since this is a death match with no rules) Sakuya can most likely stop time forever. (The only thing she can't do is return an object back to the way it was. Basically kinda like reverse time...but. Technically she can reverse time, she just can't reverse damage done to her surroundings. It's...weird to explain.)
Overall I think Sakuya wins.
I don't keep up with Sonic lore, but including super forms seems like such a strange thing to me.
Can every character go super using the chaos emeralds (Or other items of power)?
If the answer is yes, then Super Sonic, Shadow, etc. aren't really abilities. You've just given them performance enhancing drugs.
To my knowledge, none of them actually own the chaos emeralds either. So they shouldn't be expected to keep them on hand in these fights.
@@MrCaneron The way (most) vs battles work is we take characters at their peak. Which is why you see people mention super forms. Or power ups, whatever. Since all this is what if, we want the battle to be on equal footings. It would be unfair if one character holds an advantage simply because another character is inconsistent with what they have. (In some games Sonic has the emeralds and then loses them for example Sonic Unleashed, in other games Sonic has to find the emeralds, for example Sonic the hedgehog 2.)
The only way for characters to go super is through chaos emeralds. (Or technically super emeralds.)
We only know that
Sonic
Shadow
And Silver can go Super with the emeralds.
Hyper Knuckles and Super Tails happened with the super emeralds and they're noncanon now. The closest we got was the yellow bubble in sonic heroes which...isn't really a super form.
But yeah. Usually people always use Sonic and his Super Sonic form as a pair. Same goes for Shadow.
@@Wutizgoing What made the super emeralds noncanon? I wasn't aware the Sonic series had such a strict continuity.
It seems kind of weird that only hedgehogs would be able to make full use of the emeralds though (Even if Shadow has more alien than hedgehog DNA in him if I remember correctly).
@@MrCaneron The game events is canon. But Hyper Sonic is not. (Yet, could change). I don't remember the exact reason but it could've been because of the issue. (Hyper caused seizures which put Sega in deep waters.). As for the Super Emeralds, they were only added because of the fusion. (Sonic3 and Sonic&Knuckles) they don't appear in either games but appear in the fused product. Most likely because...it would be weird having missing pieces. (You collect 7 emeralds but then there is still so much game left.). The Super emeralds outside that one game never made an appearance again or were even mentioned at all in games or lore.
I did make a mistake however. Super Tails and Knuckles are probably canon. I forgot Sonic Mania was a thing and I believe they were brought back for that game. Same with Mighty and Ray.
So there are other characters who can use the Super Form. The now total confirmed cases are
Sonic
Shadow
Silver
Tails
Knuckles
Mighty
Ray
Mecha Sonic
(Sorry for the misinformation in my other post. I completely forgot about Sonic Mania.)
@@Wutizgoing ruclips.net/video/G44Z-mE6kV0/видео.html
Love it
Man, the guys in the comments are using the Vs Battles wiki thinking that it will rock the arguments "Ah, instead of going to the official sources ... ah! I already know! I will use a wiki where people put what they think without any connection none!." Congratulations, you won the argument battle. 😳
Sakuya kicked a sun into outer space
I want you all to think about that
i am making my own version of this
@@Sakuyaizayoi1996 Keep the sun kicking
No i am gonna do accurate sakuya movesets@@XquizetBlix
@@Sakuyaizayoi1996 Alright fine ☹️
Pretty neat. Though, It’s been a while since when we last saw you...
^___^
@@mellyalyna6623 you fool, base shadow > sakuya with 7 emeralds
Cool
Sakuya Izayoi cannot defeat the shadow and the super transformation is infinite, even if Sakuya Izayoi controls the space time, it would not affect the stability of the shadow since it has chaos control
Then how about Yukari?
I really wish I could like your comment 100xs cuz I 100% agree shadow in super form can manipulate time without breaking a sweat shadow is the ultimate life form plus having all 7 chaos emerald can also be used to reverse time I remember that in 06 story but some ppl never seen it probably complaining "too many glitches" fuck the glitches I played the game regardless and has alot of good point when involving the chaos emeralds
sakuya izayoi can defaet everything is can so dont be a hater
she’ll erase his powers from the timeline entirely and edit shadow to uselessness, then kill or erase him
@@zortokwa5972 agreed
Finally, a pile of salt.
Imagine Yukari Yakumo
@i forget to add name that's so inaccurate it's almost funny
i forget to add name Okay, first of all, I want to know exactly what you think Yukari can do.
@i forget to add name Who exactly in the Sonic universe would be able to go up against her and stand a chance? And don't just say everyone, give me specific examples and explain why they would be able to beat her.
i forget to add name Okay, how would Sonic be able to deal with literally having the boundary between life and death removed from him?
Forget the boundary of life and death. Yukari can easely just erase Sonic from existance
Good Video! but god these comments are hard to read lol. It's either A: somebody just being like "sakuya does this thing and insta wins" or B: somebody trying to explain how powerful shadow is, but with pretty bad hard to read grammar, making it look like mega fanboyism.
Shadow has wankers on his dick.
O shadow do filme em sprite super shadow movie
That thing sure is faster it's just not moving all the time (from sakuyas perspective)
Also stopping time effectively gives you teleportation and telekinesis in a stupid way
What was that “Beautiful Music!😱😍🤟” from (Time index [0:00] to [1:36])
Shazam said, that`s is 橘麻美 - Vanquish, but i think in video were used some mix.
"You're too slow", said the time manipulator to the hegdehog.
zortokwa nobody gives a shit, stfu
@@hiiragii shadow stomps actually
This would have ended much easier if sakuya brought her knives collection cause it lacks knives. Tho this animation is so cool and very great!
Shadow shitstomps. Reason? Biolizard, and the final hazard.
What do you guys know again about this sonic and shadow super forms are invincible
Psssst
Sakuya can just erase him outta existence
Alex Adzy Sonic will be superior and epic because we don’t make our characters look retardedly overpowered.
@@scabatbat9099 that's false logic. An overpowered character is not considered to be "bad" if that character is developed correctly. Moreover, Sakuya is only mid-tier on Touhou power scale. Your character might be one of the strongest from your franchise but other franchises have different power scales. Thanos is also overpowered, does that make him a bad character? And Chara? Asriel?
Don't make such assumptions please.
Alex Adzy Shadow has survived existence erasure before so worst thing you can ever say..
@@A1Plus4 sonic(more specifically Archie sonic) can literally do the same thing in his super and ultra form by using Chaos control, turning dreams into reality. Heck sonic has survived being erased thanks to the 1 billionth ring aura, not to mention having plot manipulation and literal plot armor. Plus he's also an Author-level character... I can't even make this up even I tried.
Not to mention he outran a time stopper in base form, even saying "too slow"
Do your research before you comment
nah m8 I’m good
I mean, Sakuya would beat base Shadow, but not Super
@@cirnosnumberfan6449 plus shadow has unlimited amount of chaos control aaand is able to go back in time too I guess since 06 was so glitchy no one paid attention what shadow is capable of and yall need to get your facts straight I'm so tired of seeing ppl like her that just cuz she can manipulate time shes obviously gonna win news flash shadow can still use chaos control during her time freeze soooooooo like I said get the facts right before declaring a winner
K00RNEX CyP Sakuya stomps :)
list all the reasons how shadow could survive being wiped from all of time (and by extension, all of existence) by sakuya, an individual who has *total* power over time and is capable of doing *anything* with it, all except reverse it.
That didn't end too well for Shadow the Hedgehog.
if this was Archie shadow, this would of been over much quicker.
True
Samsung GON True but the outcome is wrong Sakuya can’t reverse time so she loses to game shadow who defeated Solaris..
Is every comic version of sonic characters stronger?
@@animetheorists5496 I’m pretty sure ZUN said that she can reverse time
@@ceciliatavarez5655 yep
Sakuya top forever
she is way to powerful
Sure her can manipulation time XD
SAKUYA ATE AND LEFT NO CRUMBS 💅🏾💅🏾💅🏾💅🏾💅🏾💅🏾💅🏾💅🏾💅🏾
L bozo, shadow would dog walk
+Violates The Verse
Nah bozo Shadow negs her 💀
Honestly I already expected Shadow to lose. Touhou characters (specially characters like Sakuya, Reimu, Marisa and Yukari) are just too powerful. Still, it was fun to watch this
Shadow is almost as strong as sonic.
@@Therealcriticalideology yeah I know that. Still think Super Shadow should have win though
@@ChenEpicGray in a researched fight shadow will win
Sakuya would not be able to bypass the chaos emeralds timestop. The second Shadow uses chaos control the fight is over lmao
Nice animation! I love shadow WAAAAY more than sakuya, but I know she's the real winner.
Yea... Because she can stop time forever
@@mellyalyna6623 also so much other bs things she can do XD this is why we shouldn't have touhou vs. But it's fun anyway ze
Has she ever froze time forever
@@Batman-qv1ln i believe so. Either way, she can escape shadow's chaos control.
MackingXD
I don’t want you to believe, either you show me proof or not
Lel sakuya go brrrrr with time stop
As much as I hate to admit it after extensive research sakuya would beat shadow
This includes archie shadow who while he has incredible power in base form can not compete with sakuya's powers as they work on the conceptual level this has to do with universal power scaling in gensokyo monsters who can eat time, destroy absolutely, and fucking *float* above everything are common everyday mobs, hell one of the laughably weakest can achieve temperatures of absolute zero
While some enemies in the sonic comics have reached this level, enerjak, they are incredibly rare so heroes only need to reach that level during the fight itself, this gives rise to a temporary power up, chaos energy and whatnot, sadly sakuya's year round conceptual powers beat out super shadow's temporary conceptual powers sakuya simply has too much survivability and can Outlast the transformations
nah m8
SeerNiN DarkStar and you overrate shadow in massive scales
Nah Sakuya is actually underated, you guys understimate Sakuya too much, Touhou characters are so op they got nerfed by themselves. Sakuya can make past,present,future exist in same moment, erase someone's existance, if she dies she spawns from another timeline, she survived the pression from a black hole. Same thing i said for Dio, you CAN'T fight Sakuya with time tecniques it doesn't matter if oppoent is a time lord, god, super uber op time controller, Sakuya does what the f**k she wants with time. In order to beat her you need some kind of reality warper, boundary manipulator like Yukari. Reimu defeated her because she can fly past reality and because she is obviously way stronger than shadow can ever be.
You guys do realize I said sakuya can beat shadow right?
@@MajinAdell you don't need a reality warper to beat sakuya lmao, any character with better feats (like archie shadow) than her can win, no reality warping needed
I actually can't reverse time just to let you know, and if I did it would kill me. I can only stop, slow, acclerate, deflate, erase, and make the past and future exist both at thr same time. Not to mention I also rule over space as well...
n you can erease people from timeline too right.? :D
@@mellyalyna6623 I can't erase the existence of people no. I can only erase the time of the present. So think of it as skipping time. I'm just merely snipping away the present with nobody remembering what even happened
Sakuya is that really you COOL!or i just think like that
@@UmbralSovereign it just like Diavolo too or something
@@UmbralSovereign You aren't Sakuya you're a fraud shut up
There's no sense for a person to literally be able to kick a sun, I don't like it, I'm sorry.
Wdym"there's no sense"? is there sense for a person being able to control time either???
Nothing good to say man cake? Then shhhhh Noone cares about your oppinion you hate the kick sun? Then shhhhh
Don’t worry this fight has no research, and in a research battle sakuya will basically lose
@@bruh-_-7219 Oh shit don't mind previous reply I send you if you got the notification, I didn't check the video and thought you were talking about Dio vs Sakuya lol
@@iamepicfumo2360 it’s ok even tho I never saw the comment
The one thing funny is the comments section taking that animation serious and wasting time writing texts
Yeah Its So cringe
Like what a waste lel
@@melaniestan888 I agree
If shadow gets his strongest form have Sakuya no chance, but in that forms he is to weak
Sakuya be like when reveal times " Haha ez gg n00b"
that one option to win this xD
Yeah but she can't reverse time and her game profile states this i.imgur.com/2w30LDB.png
I just came here to see a Sonic character getting demolished, was very satisfied lol
We all did
Why lowballing tho
@Cirnium and you responded to my other comments too PATHETIC
Very true
4:07 When you try 1v1 vs Ekko
Ohh you LOL player too
Sakuya vs Ekko (full ap build lvl 18) is a good idea
Sakuya:*uno reverse*2:49
You don`t end it, chaos emeralds can revive.
Does this type of revival counter existence erasure?
she’ll erase the emeralds and all of sega if she has to.
@@yeen.7209 She probably beats sonic, butI don't think she'll be able to erase all of sega since Shin megami tensei exists
@@zortokwa5972 touhous are stronk get over it nerd
@@zortokwa5972 yes
In reality, Sakuya would not win for the simple reason that chaos control can also completely control both royalty and time, plus you forget That the super form is invulnerable to attacks and that shadow didn't even use all his abilities Plus he's faster than sakuya :/,Sakuya is strong but she is not at shadow's level
While I agree with the final outcome, I disagree with how you got there.
ye
Sakuya is a smol
Unlike Sakuya, Shadow can reverse time.
Electricity Creeper she can
Electricity Creeper she manipulates time in any way she can:
Stop, reverse, fast forward anything
Sees the Comments and like ratio
Oh shit.
sakuya could have just finished it quickly by destroying the timeline shadow is in right now and create a new one where shadow doesn't exsist
But shadow can used the caos control
bruh
@@rashidelmi4108 ¿you dont ever play a sonic game rigth?
Shadows chaos control even in super is unmatched compared to that girl
@the great Papyrus Yeah sure I can say shadow can control many time lines whit one chaos Control whit out prof Xd
bruh this is stuff you'd see in. like, 2010 or something
I think Super shadow should be able to keep up with her speed for a bit but the power edge that Sakuya has over him is way to much she is mutiversal Shadow in base form is muti planet level at best and super shadow should be at best a Muti solar system level but archie shadow is a different story
@Dio Brando
Not canon.
@Dio Brando
My debating days are long over, I'm just here because the other guy's got a shitty attitude.
Well there a debate about Super shadow being 1/3 universal because of solaris is universal and it took 3 super hedgehogs to beat him so yeah.But Archie Shadow is a different story
From what I could find I found out that Game sonic in base form is 2000c so using the 1000 times multiplier by Super sonic that comes to 2000000c making Shadow around that speed so that is fast and it might be able to keep up and even if super shadow was multiversal Sakuya can turn back time stop time and fast forward it now what about Hyper Shadow still even with Hyper Shadow it would not make a difference he gets no new abilities and his time limit
@@hanktoney3741 sonic, shadow and silver has type 1 acausality which prevent them to be affected with space time paradoxes. Solaris and Sonic06 IS CANON, crisis city was in Generations and in sonic riders Sonic remembers the events of sonic06. Also Solaris is Multiversal and Sakuya never showed such feats.
I think Shadow should won this battle since Sakuya can't reverse time, Super Shadow is Invunerable to all Sakuya's attack and Sakuya can't even counter Shadow's attack(even with her knives) since Super form is beyond Super Saiyan, and this part 2:58 is where she can't even counter a chaos powers with just kicking it.
I don't know much about Super Shadow, so I can't tell if her attacks would indeed work or not, same for how much his attack would work on her, however... it doesn't matter to her.
She indeed can't reverse time, but she can do everything else that is possible to do with time.
She stop it, slow it, speed it, stretch it, compress it, erase it. And since space and time are one and the same she can do the same with space.
She respect the Spell Card Rules, so won't do anything too crazy, but well she has millions of way to dodge that slow strong attack that she won't just counter by kicking, and just as many ways to kill Shadow when he isn't Super Shadow.
He isn't Super Shadow forever, she can outlast him, can speed it up until it wears off, can make it so past present and future exist at the same time by compressing space time so could still hurt him in the past despite not being able to reverse time, and even if he was born as Super Shadow and stay that way forever, well she would stop respecting the rules since he isn't fair, and could just erase his present and future (which would be closer to skipping his life than erasing it, like instantly reaching your future death).
@@para9938 shadow can actually manipulate time and space and other chaos abilities and fought solaris an equal to sakuya and speeding time to kill shadow is useless since he ha immortality type 1
Hedgehog Vegeta meets Maid DIO
He's more like cell. Because he calls himself the ultimate lifeform
@@Therealcriticalideology okay but so did Vegeta + Cell's personality is nothing like Shadow. Only similarity they have is that they are both creations from a lab
@@onlyechadtherebellious2467 I say he is more based on cell because cell calls himself the perfect being. He was made to be such, and shadow the hedgehog was made to be that as well. His character is more like cell when we are comparing their profiles. Not their personalities. And yes, I am aware. Shadow the hedgehog is nothing like vegeta or cell. Even combined.
Can she reverse time can she I think she can
No i.imgur.com/2w30LDB.png
Yea she should be able to cause she "Manipulates Time" only thing is it's the spell card rules that prevent her from using all her capabilities, if she didn't have spell card rules she'd be able to reverse time, but Sonic fan boys are retarded they don't know shit about Touhou they talk about Yukari, and downplay the fuck out of sakuya.
The biased is real with this one, lmao
@@zortokwa5972 06 isn't canon, and tf does Memphis Tennessee have to do with Shadow the Hedgehog?
Bread Breadington Look at this SIMP
Also sonic survived time erasure and is 6d in super or base so time stop doesn’t work and since shadow is like almost as powerful as sonic he could survive time erasure too
@@theboominghypes2521
1. *If not for the laws of this land, Sakuya would have slaughtered me.*
2. Imagine "simp"
3. in what fucking dimension is super sonic 6 dimensional, the comics aren't canon and therefore weren't taken into account in this, plus I've already mentioned 06 I S N ' T canon.
@@breadbreadington5735 06 is canon the timeline still exist, in generation city crisis was brought making the timeline still exists
@@breadbreadington5735 06 is cannon. Moron.
Wait..
I don't think she can Rewind time, but also..
I'm kind of sad, because no Spell Cards are used-
Black Son No she cannot reverse time it’s impossible for her to do so shadow>>>>>>Sakuya
Black Son Dude she can manipulate time but cannot rewind it it’s impossible for her..
Black Son But what’s that going to do for her, shadow defeated Solaris who was literally destroying the existing timelines and shadow defeated him Solaris>>>>>>>Sakuya, Shadow>>>>>>>>>>>Sakuya
Edit: Shadow - Muiltversal to high muiltversal, Sakuya - Large star level
Black Son That is the biggest wank ever, she should be superior to yukari with that power by what you’re saying dude remilia>>>>>>>Sakuya like cmon touhou is overwanked yukari is fodder when it comes to the sonic verse..
Edit: Shes never done anything like that wth..
Black Son That is the dumbest logic ever, by what you’re saying you say that yukari is above dc comics so she can destroy beyonder? Stop wanking, remilia is not that powerful compared to characters from more OP series than the sonic verse. Sonic in the comics manipulates fate better than remilia.. and it does not matter about the spell cards honestly yukari is weak compared to enerjak from the sonic comics..
Bites the dust
Oh yeah well I like to see her fighting tricky From friday night funkin !!!
I don't know man he might beat her due to controlling reality, and tricky is not from fnf he is from madness combat
Tricky is unstoppable
first.
1) Tricky is from Madness Combat, not from FNF.
2) Sakuya destroys Tricky and here are the reasons:
-Sakuya can time stop and can slow time, accelerate it and compress it.
-Sakuya is way more durable than Hank, Sanford, Deimos and Jebus.
-Sakuya is way more faster (Massively faster than light), meanwhile Tricky is Supersonic at best.
@@nefibarreto9315 reality wrapping
@@bruhtastic4311 his reality warping is only generating a building, not so useful to stop time stop or being erased
YEAAAAH sakuya win !!!
The broken English just sells it
This comment section lowballed shadow really bad
Ikr
@@fadingshade5097 going back and forth through the entire comment section kept wanking sakuya and yukari and lowballed shadow and sonic even the archies, shows that half of the 2hu fanbase wank their characters
@Cirnium lol shadow scales to solaris who is super dimensional being who was about to consume all the existing timelines making the time collapse into nothingness and eating dimensions for launch also super shadow is equal to super sonic who beat beings like time eater a time god who was damaging the universe by just moving and tearing the time , egg wizard who was sustaing Sonic's universe and blaze's universe including their space-time and merge them together
@Cirnium hello it’s me bruhtastic but in a different account oh and.
I’m 4 parallel universes ahead of u >:3
@Cirnium solaris exists in the past and the present and the future , super sonic beat the present one , shadow the past , silver the future
Archie sonic vs sakuya (already know who's going to be the winner)
Sakuya would be oblirated by archie
@@bruhtastic4311 yep therefore she be erase from existence
some humans think that she is a powerful human but she is not a human she is a diversion watch sakuya vs reimu video
Sakuya isn't a human in fact she's the DNA of both Kaguya and Eirin.
Second place of more strongs
There's a reason why she wanted to fight shadow...
Because she was obviously afraid to fight sonic... DUH!
@Not so Black Yes.
But mostly Archie.
@Not so Black yeeeep
@Not so Black I know, im just mention Archie sonic not shadow.
@Not so Black I don't know.
She will more powerfull if she use a stream roller
She isn't DIO
But... Sakuya can’t reverse time
@@Xx-Darkcrimson-xXshe literally says reverse time....
She can don't even try this
gorianssj 100 she can’t, don’t even try this
The extent of her reversed time is position only
She can though have you not read the manga ?
bruh u just like sakuya sakuya cant push this ball with her leg and when he hited her with the normal balls she didnt get any dmge and sakuya does not have this powers she cant push this big ball with her leg or dont get any dmge from shadow's attacks like i said u prob like sakuya thats all if sonic.exe fighted sakuya i bet he will win or if sonic turned to the shadow transformation all of his body gets black the billy only is normal and white glowing eyes with a white lightning and if sonic.exe also used his power or his super saiyan transformation they would beat sakuya easily
no i don;t like her at all :D a lot people said she so powerful, and you can watch she vs dio, she vs frisk and chara, she alway win o.o and some people said she already spit anime verse
well she cant win on goku even she lost when she was fightning hit and goku is stronger than hit so what do u expect from vegeta and goku and gohan and those characters dbz is the coolest strongest anime have the strongest characters
white wolf. origins or maybe she lost because Hit has had abilities superior to Goku and Sakuya’s?
nah goku is alot more stronger than hit so what do u expect from him didnt u see the mui and ui? they were so powerful
@Black Son if she can do that then why didnt she do it in the anime bcuz she cant and also sans can just blue soul her and summon a circle of giant blasters on her and then he can blast her and shes already controled with the blue soul and she cant move or teleport or use any of her skills
Shadow would win if it were a battle with analysis
Yeah, that would be pure speedblitz against Infinite speed&Spatial manipulation.
yeah ... Shadow would really win
@@jajajaxd117 didn't realize super shadow can move faster that the literal stopping of time
Well, at least if its canon games' shadow or archie's shadow
Holy sh*t most sonic fans really suck
Your future will is shining
Sakura time stop is kinda cheating
And chaos control and super shadow arent?
Well she still won
It isn't cheating because if it weren't for that she would just be a normal human
@@downtowner5941 ¿súper form?
¿Realy?
gorianssj 100 Even without time stop she’s still WAY above a normal human.
I mean it was kind of obvious that shadow would lose but if probably pinned sakuya against sonic or something im pretty sure sonic would probably win im not 100% sure though.
Sakuya is faster than Sonic.
GG
First of all sakuya is only stopping time, sure time has something to do with speed but still saying sonic is slower than sakuya is overkill.
@@orphic-3766 Sakuya has a lot more tricks than only "Stop the Time"
She can slow it down, speed it up, compress it, delete it, etc.
is cappable to create and destroy timelines effortless.
Can move at MFTL speed (She is faster than Suika, who can move at 2,6*10^175 FTL)
And to be honest i think sonic is faster than sakuya, while she can stop time sonic can just use light speed dash or chaos control and if thats not enough he can just use darkspine sonic and use the soul gage
@@orphic-3766 Hah...
You want me to really argue, don't ya?
Well, you'll suffer because I'll tell you everything.
i'm have summarized the info into this
If zun see this he will be desaponted
“Desaponted”
Disappointed? Why would ZUN be disappointed, Time Manipulation is meant to Stop time
and yea since sakuya has chrono-kinesis, Sakuya can just forward time, slow down time, and possibly reverse it but on a limited scale
her time reversal is limited, but the rest aren't is what I've seen, and heard anyways, Sakuya can "compress time making past and future meet" so I see no reason of why she shouldn't be able to reverse time, also then again why would he be disappointed if, the outcome of this sprite animation is accurate you dumb idiot. use right choice of sentences not only that but you spelled disappointed wrong.
Gone wrong. Sakuya most powerfull
She can't even beat yamcha.
@Cirnium and now my job is to debunk YOU
@Cirnium but it's the truth
@Cirnium HA
@@Therealcriticalideology It's not
Shadow's blood is green.
Why winner is always Sakuya
because she is way to powerful, she beat Dio, Frisk and Chara, Sans the Skeleton,
@@mellyalyna6623 Oh understandable
@@mellyalyna6623 nah shadow blitzes
@@mellyalyna6623 That isn't the reasonings, the reasoning is cause her ability of "Manipulation of Time" Space and Chrono-Kinesis It's said she should be able to reverse time but on a limited scale, she can stop time indefinitely, she can slow down time, she can clone and even compress time by making past and future meet into the present has knifes that pierce space and time causality of fabric of reality it's said in lost word, she can do that hell, in most games she's capable of launching bullet hell knifes out of all timelines that are compressed proof on how she pierced the timelines in order for that to happen gaps are of time piercing, and which sakuya did do that, sakuya can fly faster than shadow she can time stop and warp your objects back at you erased existences even with the spell card rules that limit her she's capable of so much she's not weak, if she can easily just erase timelines hell It's even stated she has a certain level of acausality, since she pierced causality there will be no effect or causes but it's only limited reversal cause of Gensokyo spell card battle rules but this if she fights someone else that doesn't have spell cards that isn't from her universe like yes shadow for example he'd get one shotted, sakuya said she's fast enough to make time freeze... and she should be able to reverse time to the full extent against every other character, just not in touhou get it guys?? forget about the limited extent that's only when she's in her own world. By world i meant verse cause Touhou is about nerf while if she was out of her world she'd have access to her time manipulation entirely
@@yobrosonan1082 Give a reason why, you'd wank and hype shadow, Touhou is lowballed anyways Sonic is overrated, and hyped
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and sakuya can't reverse time. p sure even she's claimed it's impossible in canon sources
Well, she can't reverse the time because Gensokyo's laws and physics.
In other universes she probably can do it.
Btw, she can easily just erase Shadow from the existence (Delete the timeline and create a new one without Shadow in or just delete his future)
Terra11 sure whatever
@@anonymousanonymous8216 Lol, k
that doesn’t change the fact that she stomps shadow lmao
@@terraelaweonao shadow can't be erased
Beerus hakai
Just gonna say she can reverse time she’s not in gensyoko meaning she isn’t bound by the laws there and since shadow doesn’t have spell card rules sakuya could literally just freeze time and slash his head off
true that
2003
Pls I swear to god NEVER use shadows spirit EVER AGAIN
The thing is if you stopped time he is already gone...
Cause in the stopped world well just stopped but in the real world aint not lel
@Cirnium shadow already destroyed a time user example solaris, and Sakuya is like Solaris and shadow is immune to erasure and is also faster than sakuya, this battle lowballed shadow in every way
@Cirnium lol shadow,sonic and sliver defeated Solaris who exist in the past present and future shadow defeated Solaris in the past, sonic defeated him in the present and silver defeated him in the future so no it will not work again, and shadow is faster than sakuya cuz he scales to sonic.
@Cirnium 4 words: the one billionth ring, it basically prevents sonic,shadow and silver from being erased so it will not work
@Cirnium yep
@Cirnium both sonic and shadow survived worse than some knives and magic I’m 4 parallel universe ahead of you try again