How Strong is the Master Sword in Tears of the Kingdom
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Stop scrolling if you play Tears of the Kingdom, because the Master Sword is BROKEN.
And I don’t mean that in a good way, I mean it in a “it literally doesn’t function properly” way. Have you ever noticed that the first time you used your Master Sword, it lasted much longer? That’s because of how the fusion durability system works. The Master Sword has a durability of 40, and gains +25 when something is fused onto it. That’s a pretty hefty bonus, but you can’t keep fusing items onto a weapon to repair the weapon. It only works once!
So here’s the problem: when the Master Sword runs out of energy, it goes into its dormant “recharging” state until it reaches 40. It then becomes usable again. So you would think, oh, just fuse something onto the weapon and it’ll go back to 65 again, right? Hahahaha no, of course it wouldn’t be that simple. Because they don’t reset the weapon properly to let you gain the +25 from fusing again. That +25 is forever lost, and cannot be regained. Don’t believe me? Break your Master Sword right now, and wait for it to recharge. Once you get it back, you’ll see the Master Sword didn’t get its full durability sparkle back.
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A naturally existing lynel horn deals more damage than a sword crafted with the sacred flames of the godesses
Who became a dragon to “pour sacred magic” into the sword for CENTURIES
@@ungesbunges6885 not thousand of years ?
@@maesgaming01410not eons?
@@maesgaming01410a lot longer than that. She just kept looping through time until it was repaired
It is ridiculous that it's just as strong at the end as the opening scene when Zelda went through all that trouble to, not only repair, but further empower the master sword to outshine the gloom that easily broke it the first time. Absurd that it has the same strength. The storytelling from the gameplay is just not there this game, it doesn't feel thought through
The fact that the master sword got nerfed despite the lore telling us it got stronger is stupid.
Yeah, considering guardians were filled with enough malice to set off the full sixty damage of the master sword, gloom enemies should work like that, as the gloom is like a more concentrated malice.
Yeah I agree idk why so many players violently defend Nintendo over this
Also what’s the point of hiding the damage? Like how am I supposed to know that it deals most damage to phantom ganon without this video
@@user-tc5kc5td9dto be fair 45 is a great value for a weapon in this game
@@user-tc5kc5td9d30 base damage and 65 durability with fuse is a pretty good weapon and the fact that it recharges every ten minutes is great the only problem is the durability is broken and fuse durability doesn’t add after the first time so as long as they fix it the master sword would be quite good
I like how it’s powered up for 10000 years and it’s arguably worse than in botw
Zelda sacrificed herself so she could bathe it in Sacred Light for 10,0000 years. And it still requires multiple swings to kill bokoblins or break wooden boxes.
yup. they did the weapon dirty in totk
it's not arguable. every single weapon got debuffed to account for fuse in totk *except* the master sword, which by staying the same actually got *buffed*
@@MegamanStarforce2010When fused with a Silver Lynel Saber, the Master Sword has a base damage of 85, 115 when fighting a Ganon, and mfs really wanna argue the Master Sword is weak despite that likely being your highest damage weapon at any given moment, unless your stock full of Gerudo shit, nearly broken Royal Guard gear.
Zelda fans man I fucking swear. Mfs don't know basic math
I guess after like 10000 years it would be not the exact same as it was in botw.@@MegamanStarforce2010
I just find it annoying The Master Sword that has been bathing in sacred light for thousands of thousands of years still breaks and does as much damage as the BoTW one
It does way more damage. Everything is build for fusing.
It's game balance
I guess you never really fought against Ganondorf properly huh? You know those attacks that can break any shield even the Hylian shield instantly? The master sword is the only thing in the game that counters that attack and deals massive damage back to Ganondorf. It was bathed on sacred light to oppose the Demon King and that's exactly what it does.
@@diegomedina9637 What do you mean “properly”? I tried avoiding those attacks instead of swinging my sword hoping it works is there a “proper” way to play the game?
Guys I’m sorry that I think it’s annoying that the master sword that has been hyped up to be way better than the botw one is pretty much the same
nintendo patches fun things but doesn't fix the master sword
@@Thephoenixofgaming The Master sword the Best sword in all worlds, the sealer of darkness.
just don't notice the master sword being broken. while we remove fun
@@Thephoenixofgaming BUT'S THAT's A THEORY A GAME THEORY THANKS FOR WATCHING - Matpat
Does it really need fixing?
yes, it doesn't have full durability
@@Thephoenixofgaming that is not the issue, the problem is that it only gets the 25 fuse durability once, even after recharging. That means the first time it has a durability of 65 and from then on it will always recharge to 40 regardles of fusing. So it is a waste to fuse things to it half the time (except when fighting in depths or against (phantom) ganon)
If only the durability worked properly!
Yeah, it's weird that they patched all the dupe glitches yet haven't fixed the master sword yet. I played the game recently and it feels buttery-smooth, almost TOO smooth like they added a 1.2x speed boost to the game. I think it mostly feels weird to me cuz I played like 80% of the game before the patches. I miss the paragliding dupe glitch cuz that actually made it became more fun for me cuz I was able to experiment more when cooking food, that and rupees are so scarce in the game that duping diamonds made it more playable
you should get that msgnotfound master sword, that one never breaks
@@guochunli8829 sure cool, that and run the risk of glitch in your game
@@zacziggarot Haven't had any in a month, what kind of glitch r u talking about and why might we get that
@@guochunli8829 IDK, I don't know why you expect everything to work perfectly after you get a glitched sword. Especially in a game like tears where you'll get a lot of glitches anyways
I miss the old powered up master sword in botw it was so fun just destroying enemies
If only you had msgnotfound and didnt update your game you could have a master sword that wields all elements in the game and does 400 dmg plus
@@GirlGamerHacker how did you get all elements at once on it zuggling?
@@linklinksson6885fuse gleok horns to it
*Sabered Silver Lynel Horn wants to know your location*
@@raviolithebest8644 yeah I would love to fuse a silver Lynel saber horn to the powered up master sword
With how much sacred power it's absorbed over the span of OVER 10,000 years, I feel it should at least have its permanent glow upgrade like in the Trial of the Sword from BotW.
Were threats much weaker in the time of Ocarina of Time such that the power of the Master Sword then was 3?
It glows when unusual threats are near, typically Ganon. It's like Sting in The Lord of the Rings. Why would you want a cool narrative device gone? Every comment on this video is double digit IQ
@@iantaakalla8180 I mean technically yeah
Ganon has pretty much almost won in BotW
And the 100 years also gave him time to make enemies stronger so yeah
@@iantaakalla8180not the same scale. If an enemy has over 100 HP then it takes more than 3 strikes to kill it.
I think they nerfed it due to the ability to fuse items to it. I think they would have done better by giving it a base value of 60 with no fusion ability. Give it 80 in the depths and 100 vs Ganon and Phantom Ganons. This would make the sword more powerful while still leaving powerful fusions viable.
Just make it 50 with the ability to fuse, that way there are still other options but you also have a viable weapon at all times. Which really isn't a problem given how late most people will get it.
the fusing items is the most retarded concept ever a sword with a rock attached looks fucking retarded
We need the Master Trials back so we can get the Master Sword back up to full power at all times. The way it deserves to be.
yes
Notice how that was DLC and no DLC has been released for TotK yet.
@@BasedHyperborean Aonuma said that TOTK is in a state that he is perfectly fine with and they arent adding anything else to the game so there is no "yet" to the DLC, its just not happening.
I am violently agreeing with this
We need it BUFFED because that's what it canonically should be
love how they took the master sword, told us its several times stronger than in botw, made it significantly more difficult to obtain, and then nerfed it
When did they tell us it was several times stronger? I remember Zelda needing to repair it so it could serve its purpose of defeating Ganon, I don't remember Zelda's mission being to deliver Link a sick sword for all situations.
@@rareosts5752the master sword breaks when trying to block an attack from Gannon, causing it to need to be repaired. The sword ends up needing to be strengthened so that does not happen again.
@@rareosts5752it wasn’t explicitly stated that it was stronger per se, but the implication was that because of its natural regeneration powers when in contact with a strong enough source of light power, (as seen in botw when the sword was recharged by the great deku tree after being drained) it would continuously gain strength. Because of Zelda’s time shenanigans, this master sword has been soaking up light juices since hyrule was founded, and should be significantly stronger
How is the master sword more difficult to obtain?
@@knight0fdragon i have no idea what i was thinking when i said that, probably something about the light dragon being annoying to mount
So we did that whole reinforcement shit for absolutely nothing, nice
Unfortunately, instead of making a more powerful sword they decided hiding the value because they kept it the same was better. Absolute nonsense tbh
@@EonAegis Way to go Nintendo
You can use fuse on it now though
@@datboisenpai2806 you can fuse onto ANY weapon, so that isn't a point in the Master Sword's favor. In fact, you can make far stronger fusions with other weapons than is possible with the Master Sword.
@@EonAegis I doubt if anyone will answer but I would like to see the music in a video
I'd like another trial of the sword DLC, to have it permanently powered up and glowing.
Not if it works like it did in BotW
@@zedorian6547 that was pretty fun though. :)
The glowing 60 damage Master Sword is cool as hell, we need it forever. The glow is also pretty. (I like light blues.)
Man Zelda you shouldve just let me do the mastersword trial again
How does over 10,000 years stuck in a holy dragon make it worse than a trial some monks cooked up 😭
Id rather deal with a worse sword than ever step foot in that waste of data that is the Trials of the Master Sword again.
If the sword durability didn’t exist it would be perfect
I have good news, ever heard of the msgnotfound?
@@numberfork I have, and I missed out :(
@@_NormalEditorI have it and I legit cannot stop using it
@@dashbuurd4358the only thing that sucks about it is that it doesnt power up against any enemies
My Master Sword wields all elements and has a attack of 400+ only thing that comes close to it is the master torch
If it's strength is so low, then it's durability needs to be much higher.
If it's durability is so low, then it's strength needs to be much higher.
Not. Both. Low.
Fuse changes it though
@@Trishy-01 Not enough.
But at least it makes the dmg higher
@@Healer0079ayeah it’s enough when you fuse it with lynel parts
The master sword makes no sense at all its still just a tool to cut down trees and bust open rocks for me
It should be unbreakable at least....
It is unbreakable.
@@rareosts5752breaking and recharging are essentially the same only different is it stays
Is just like on botw
@@rareosts5752its not unbreakable. Unbreakable means it would suddenly explode and leave your inventory. Recharging does not equal unbreakable
@@rareosts5752it's only unbreakable when fighting a Phantom Ganon or the real one.
it shouldve behaved exactly as it did, just under new influence. All gloom enemies should act like Malice....because they are. Power up against the hands, Phantom Gan, Gan, and all gloom enemies with 60 for all. They shouldve given this to light dragon parts as well. Continuity.
Nah it would be too broken once you the master sword if you get it by story you already have really good fuse items with a lot of relatively common fusions you can get it to 60 without the gloom bonus at all
@@datboisenpai2806 and breaking lore is not new for the zelda series
@@datboisenpai2806there’s no such thing as broken it’s a fuckin single player game
When the game depends on your new weapon fusing and mechanics it’s definitely good to have an “unbreakable” weapon that just runs out of energy for ten minutes. 🎉
Yep! Now if only the other half of the durability system, the added durability of fusing, actually worked on it 🎉
Running out of energy makes 0 sense...it's the Master Sword...
Yeah, but it runs of the same basic combat engine that Botw runs on. Weapons have to “break” even if it is the master sword, it has to “break” too.
I wish the Master Sword didn't run out of durability (energy). It's a legendary sword that gleams with holy light, which has been healed by a dragon of light for tens of thousands of years but it breaks just as easy as any other weapon. It's also Link's sword, like lemme just have it all the time please, Nintendo! It looks so cool but it has such wasted potential.
Of it ran out of energy just lower its damage I hate not having my stylish sword on my back 😢
It doesn't break.....Good God. I don't want it to break the weapon system, it's fine how it is.
@@rareosts5752other weapons break the weapons system dude. Double digit IQ
I love how Nintendo hides the damage tables and stuff so we cant see that the weapons dont do the amount of damage they say they do
I love how you assume that's why they did it.
@@rareosts5752why else would it be hidden
Botw Master Sword did this as well, and in that game it actually showed its damage value.
That's lame, that doesn't seem very legendary
Yup, I'm guessing everyone who is upset is used to the post trial of the sword version.
Literally all they needed to do was make the mastersword unbreakable and whatever items you attach to it have durability. It would be strong but with fuse having a consistent tool for everything would have been nice.
No, they literally didn't need to do that. It's much better balanced as it is
@@rareosts5752 compared to botw, this mastersword is weaker as it now has less durability and damage, and we arent getting the mastersword trials to upgrade it. plus it is quite literally bugged where it cant gain fuse durability again after it first breaks. canonically this is supposed to be the most powerful the mastersword has ever been, and yet gameplay wise it breaks faster and does less damage than the previous game. infinite durability wouldnt even be that big a deal as many weapons have unique properties that allow them to surpass the mastersword in sheer strength, and having an unbreakable multi-tool would have been really nice.
Is the same as the base botw
@@rodrigoqueirozmontenegro3456 in botw and totk the mastersword does 30 damage yes, but in botw when you're near guardians or the castle the master swords damage doubles and gets increased durability, in totk the masterswords base damage increases by 1.5x instead and doesnt get extra durability. this was probably done to account for fusing materials but the issue is when the mastersword breaks for the first time, it will never get extra durability from fuse. mechanically totk's mastersword is weaker
@@rareosts5752 Bro... From the hours I spent playing TOTK, from the start to Ganon.
The Master Sword felt very pathetic against basic, and gloom-affected enemies.
The damage on it feels waaaay too low, and fusing stuff to it felt like a waste because of how it quickly it breaks.
Fusion, breaks the weapon as well VIA an unpatched bug...
Once it breaks I'm stuck waiting 10:00 minutes, which wouldn't be so bad in BOTW.
in TOTK it's the same but it due to how often it ended up breaking, it felt like I waited 10 hours for a headset to recharge only for it to die after 10 minutes of use time.
My feelings toward the Master Sword went from:
"Finally... I have the Master Sword! Oh boy! I can't wait to use this, I hope it'll serve me as a decent option to use against most enemies I come across, considering the sword after the Trials turned it into a fantastic, but op option! It should be more balanced here, I feel."
To...
"The Master Sword was only ever good to use, when I was fighting, Ganondorf. Fuck this fucking sword! Auuuuugh! IT BROKE! AGAIN! God fucking damn it, Fi! You're useless! Screw this, imma go use the BOTW version and see how bad it is. In BOTW it wasn't this bad was it?."
The funny thing about the Master Sword is it's actually pretty good at being a Depths buster if you really do the numbers
Since going at Gloomed enemies gives a 1.5× boost to base damage, if you have a Molduga Jaw fused to it and Bone Proficiency, it'll have a damage output of 138, or 207 if you have a Lv3 Attack Up effect from a meal
For comparison, a Pristine, +10 Atk Up Royal Guard Claymore fused with a Molduga Jaw and Bone Prof. only dishes out 129 damage, and 194 with Lv3 Atk Up
There are other things that can surpass that best case scenario of 207, of course, a Pristine Silver Longsword with the works [+10 Atk Up, Jaw, etc.] does 167, but get drenched and it flies up to 334, but if you want to be keeping that in the long term, you're going to be either constantly throwing down Splash Fruits or be constantly poking Sidon's Spirit for the funny bubble shield
And the previous Royal Guard Claymore example gets up to 356 with Breaking Point in effect...but that also means it's about to break, and is probably better saved for when you mount a Lynel instead of proper combat
Basically, if you're aiming to pick a lot of fights in the Depths, puttin' Fi to some work is pretty much one of your best options for it
Unfortunately not entirely right! The Master Sword's bonus damage only applies to the base damage of the sword, so it only ever gives +15 to +30. It's not applied to the fused component at all! A better, cheap and readily available weapon would be Knight's Broadswords. While their base damage when rusted is obviously sucky, when it comes to the depths they're almost unmatched in versatility. You can walk around on 1 health while still taking hits due to how gloom damage works, and the low health doubler doubles both base and fuse attachment damage, so this obviously scales extremely well with any additional modifiers like attack up, bone proficiency and even +atk modifiers. Thanks to the Master Sword being bugged as well, the durability becomes very similar between the two, and you can carry several so there's no forced breaks.
The Knight's Broadsword will start matching the Master Sword in the depths (45) at the following power levels:
Rusted: Modifier / Fusion damage total of 31 (funnily enough, almost exactly Molduga Jaw)
Pristine: Modifier / Fusion damage total of 9.
Any modifier / fusion attachment combined value higher than this will rapidly cause the Master Sword to fall behind.
It’s never full durability. You can tell because there isn’t a sparkle when it comes back after running out of energy.
Master sword durability bug is so dumbbbb
Fun fact the master sword when glowing used to do SIXITY SIXITY!!!!!!!!
it still does 60 have you watch video but only for ganon final boss which i get your point i pretty sure damage is nerfed since you can use fuse ability with master sword increasing damage more than botw did
I feel like the master sword is undervalued, depending on what stage of investment in the game you are at anyways. It obviously becomes obsolete if you dig into what's under the hood of the weapons system. Making Links unofficial career meticulously farming the best weapons, with the best multipliers, best fuse materials. This does indeed make any weapon that's not one of the 6 or so weapons that provide the best multipliers look like crap. Especially when you just so happen to also be aware that octorocks upgrade both a weapons power, durability and provides a bonus boost on top of all of this. This late game stuff aside. On a first time, pure and vanilla run of the game, I think it's pretty solid. It is at worst a durability sponge that's power is at worst barely viable late game, and at best is a respectable 80+ damage. Considering the fact that even pristine weapons do break permanently (unless you know about octorocks somehow with out googling it) at some point. It's role as an "infinite" weapon makes it really valuable in my untainted, and casual perspective.
That's the tl:dr, if your interested as to why, well, keep reading.
It's pretty valuable in the depths, even compared to Claymores and their potential power. Having a dependable and consistent 80+ power weapon down there is nothing to scoff at. Solid A tier weapon in the depths for sure. Maybe I am overvaluing it's potency. But the role of a durability sponge, I'd say it's power is more than respectable, and even usable against even the toughest opponents down in the depths. Which is more than a lot of weapons in the game can actually say, so despite being still easily out classed despite the 50% boost given to it. I'd still say it's a low A, high B tier choice down there.
I don't like it in the over world, it's obviously not the greatest thanks to a lack of multipliers. The only thing going for it is that if your inventory isn't that big yet, it may consistently be your second or third best weapon to pick from. If you do have an inventory close to max though, then it's very easy to collect a pile of weapons over time that more than outclass the master sword. The various broadsword multipliers make it so thanks to lynel parts, as well as parts over 30 fuse power just make a fool of the master sword. Thanks to some combos literally making 2 master swords on top of your weapons base damage. It just gets worse if you dedicate yourself to going after pristine variants. Which is just depressing since technically it is the second strongest 1 handed weapon if multipliers didn't exist. I'd go B if it's early game, C once you dig into how to farm weapons effectively. This also hasn't even considered that even bad Claymores are not only better in terms of raw damage than most broadswords. But that some Claymores even go a bit higher than the master sword itself, with great multipliers to boot. So you can create a broken horde cleaner that so far out classes the master sword, if you have enough of these weapons you just never consider the master sword at all. In this specific load out, It quite literally is only a durability absorber against weaker enemies, even if you fuse stuff to it and try to make the most of its capabilities (which you still should, it just doesn't live up to the title "blade of evils bane").
Spears just suck. So the only one that is even worth talking about, the light scale trident, actually also technically outclasses both well over 90% of any spear/fusion combination, as well as the master sword itself. Lynel parts fused to it while wet brings a whopping 154 power to work with. Even taking into account the spear having a negative multiplier that I couldn't calculate at this moment. I remember it's minimal enough that there is absolutely no way this thing's power is lower than say, 124. Which is still well above the maximum fuse power of an overworld master sword, and still has a fairly wide clearing over a depths boosted max fuse power master sword. Thankfully, the only other spear that is in the same ball park as the master sword is the Gerudo spear as far as I know. So there are thankfully less weapons that actually out class it than you'd think. Of course, this is in a casual run of the game anyways.
Casually, it's pretty solid. Solidly cut above about 75%-80% of the game imo. Didn't really complain about how lame it actually is once you dig into the nitty gritty's until the final hours of the game. Since you become fully aware of what type of power is actually capable of you farm the right weapons and materials. As well as somehow become aware of the fact that Octo rocks boost power/durability on your own somehow.
Solid read! I think the main problem with it is simply that the rest of the game's weaponry tends to outpace it. It's really *only* better than the earlygame sticks and stones, mostly because you can be grabbing hold onto what is effectively late to endgame gear right as you get the paraglider. There are just simply way too many really good weapons that are in fixed spawns around the world, and the Master Sword just doesn't keep up with that. I stumbled onto the Lynel Arena place early and simply made an effort to beat them up whenever I needed new weapons and bows, so very early on, the game's balance was broken in half because I could just use one of my many Savage Lynel Bows.
The durability of the Master Sword would make that power trade and the role of durability sponge so much better... but it's bugged and doesn't work correctly, so it gets locked at about the same durability as any other fused weapon, which just kinda makes it "as good as" any other weapon in terms of durability sponging.
If the argument is that it stops holding up in the mid to late game, the problem becomes that the sword *is usually found in the mid to late game* unless you actively seek it out. In which case, the same argument could be made for the weapons that just do really, really well. And even then this is still comparing the weapons against their own weapon class. If you add bows into the mix, the Master Sword is only not a waste of an inventory slot because it comes with a free one.
TL;DR: I wouldn't be so harsh on the damn thing if it actually had the intended durability, because as is it's kinda weak and being weak also means you run out of durability faster.
Took the words right out of my mouth.
@@Shagaru_Bleedfr
Is it just me or do you have a Hylian shield fuesed with another Hylian Shield?
I have 310 hours in botw totk combined and had no idea that’s what the arrow meant. I always thought it was durability
😂
I think it does, and I like the way it reacts to being fused.
The one thing I would change is I think that it's durability should not be depleted until the item it's fused to breaks. This way, as you long you keep your master sword "fed", you can continue to use it unabated. Personally, I think that's the best compromise between wanting it to be designed with the weapon durability in mind, while also feeling like a special weapon of consequence in terms of the story and gameplay.
This would be very powerful, but that's the way the Mastee Sword SHOULD be imo.
Kinda feel bad for the sword/fi. Shattered instantly, repaired for thousands of years just to be permanently weakened.
Also very bad theory:
Prehaps the sword in botw was far far older than the time repaired in totk
Pretty bad theory considering we KNOW the BotW sword only took 100 years to repair from a pretty bad state of disrepair :')
Yeah I was really tired lol
@@EonAegisI think a main reason is that Fi was shattered to a lot of pieces in totk, and in botw(if I remember correctly) only the sharp edge was damaged and covered in malice
Sadly if Reports are true, we won't get dlc to power it up more. Or any new story stuff (there are still unanswered questions)
Damn that shield tho
The durability sucks ass in my opinion. In botw when you finished the master sword trial, the master sword became like 10x more durable and delt twice the original damage. That was amazing. This new master sword is ass
Yes, why is the sword you get early to mid way through TOTK not as powerful as the sword you have after doing a bonus trial in late game from BOTW? It's almost like Nintendo are making games or something...
@@rareosts5752you can do the trial as soon as you get the sword. Completely doable even early game if you're good enough. By that point balance isn't achievable for the dev anymore. When someone plays so well they can go in with 1 really good Hearty meal and get through without losing all their extra hearts. May as well hand them their unbreakable master sword because they'll slaughter the game with or without it.
I know I did, even in master mode.
Stop defending their awful design.
I think the master sword should've gotten the same effect that you get when fusing a part from the light dragon, where you heal a quarter of a heart with each attack. It would've made so much sense as a "powerup" that it got from all those years, it'd let you get that effect without having to regularly scrape a part from the dragon (which feels bad), and it wouldn't even be that strong compared to all the elemental effects that the other dragons and other parts offer.
Its base damage was stronger after 3 trials in botw, yet 10 000 years makes it WEAKER?
How is it weaker you can just use fuse you got to balance the game somehow
Dawg, the legendary blade that seals the darkness needs fuse to make it mildly usable after reacharging for 10k years
@@pacadile2025 60 isn't mildly usable tho. Like, the master sword is underwhelming in this game and broken (not in good way) but let's not exagerate. 30, 45 is "okay" (the master sword shouldn't be just "okay") and you can't ignore that you can fuse things to it, it is like one the main mechanics of the game, not making the master sword interact with it would the master sword weak by defaut.
@DarkHunter047 , gameplay wise it makes sense, but lore wise...
@@pacadile2025 Well, the master sword seems to fuse diffently than other weapons, and she seems more malleable after being exposed to pure light for thousands of years so you could make an argument that it makes sense that she behaves that way now.
It would be cool if the master sword gained an ability that gave it way more durability when fused, after they fix the master sword.
MsgNotFound: i’m about to ruin this man’s whole career
Jumping from the full-power 60 Damage Master Sword down to TOTK’s Master Sword was like jumping in a washing machine on Spin cycle.
I thought that the whole damage was boosted, ie. The fused horn's power also got boosted 1.5x or doubled
That sounds like Breath of the Wild with extra steps
Remember when you could one shot kill most small enemies and Bokos and easily kill bigger enemies after unlocking the fully powered Master Sword in games like Skyward Sword, Twilight Princess and A Link between Worlds?
Lore wise TotK's Master Sword is supposed to be the strongest it has ever been since its creation, and still a goddamn stick with a horn does more damage and has more durability...
Oh Hylia, what have they done to your beautiful blade... one more Reason why I'm never replaying TotK...
A few other notable things:
- The durability is glitched. 40 is the base durability, but if you fuse something to it and it breaks / regens, it will never retain the durability fuse boost.
- Its actually unbreakable when fighting Ganon enemies (Phantom Ganon, final boss).
Small thing here, it's only truly unbreakable during the final segment of the final boss, but with any other ganon it just gains a whooooole buttload of bonus durability, hence why it feels unbreakable!
@@EonAegis it doesn’t gain true unbreakablity in Ganon fights? Geez I’ve been lied to. Do you know what the buff is?
@@cato3277 I haven't tested the exact specifics, but if it carries over the same mechanic as how it worked in Breath of the Wild, it should be buffed to about 188 (or 200 if they made a minor alteration to that). I don't think there's ever an enemy that realistically causes it to run out of bonus durability, thus the reason people think it's true unbreakability, but it *is* possible.
The game flags the Master Sword to be unbreakable during the final sequence of the battle (in the sky) but before then, it does not use this state. Oddly enough, there are two other invulnerability states for weapons in the game - one that makes all weapons not lose durability (used exclusively in the room of Awakening, and disabled specifically upon destruction of the second vine) and the other being the intro master sword which has a similar invuln state as the Master Sword in the ending, but this sword uses a different ID than the "regular" Master Sword. This invuln flag for the intro Master Sword is never cleared, thus making MsgNotFound unbreakable if you smuggle it out of the opening.
I kind of feel like if they wanted to have it so low powered they could have at least allowed it to be the one weapon that doesn't break) disappear
This sounds stupid, but this is the main reason why I quit TotK and returned to BotW. All because the Master Sword in BotW (while in probably one of its weakest states ever, only beaten by the WW's Master Sword) still feels powerful with it's 60 base damage against Malice corrupted enemies. Now TotK's MS is supposed to be the most powerful version of this sword and it is WEAKER than all the other Master Swords? WTF?!
Or the enemies are just way stronger, more protected against the Light of the goddess.
Ganondorf is supposed to be stronger than ever as well, wouldn't it make sense if it was reflected in the game play?
And instead of increasing everyones health they lowered to damage outputs.
I tried going back to botw after bearing totk. Game mechanics are way better in tears at least for me.
You can easily cancel ultra hand but can't magnesis etc. Menu controls are better. It all ads up
Holy crap what a bad take. TOTK is objectively better in every way. I bet you couldnt afford it
@@rareosts5752it's the same game with small changes
@thespider8782 are you an idiot? You must be if you really think this is the same game as BotW.
Master Sword is brilliant when fused with something strong, like the blade from a Silver Lynel, makes awesome damage!
Bro no way this dude has a hylian shield hylian shield
If i remember, the weapon stats of twohanded swords are decreased in the game menus. I think austin john plays made a video discussing this.
If the durability was unlimited then it'd be whatever. With limited use it should be way stronger.
You gotta love that the master sword, which powered up with sacred light for 10000 years is less durable and powerful than a weapon created by a gerudo weaponsmith
Lore is dead
@@EonAegis The time wasn't supposed to make it the best weapon in all contexts, that would destroy the strategy of the weapons system. Zelda was bathing it in the sacred power to beat Ganon and that's what it does. That's why it's legendary. Lore isn't dead, you're just an idiot.
They really should fix the points for both enemy health numbers and the master sword. I don’t even get why they instantly darkened the new blade of the master sword after the flashback… they could have at least done a bigger improvement to the appearance of the master sword, like a permanently glowing blade and replacing the blue-ish purple with pure white. That would have been so edgy and made such a cool change.
The master sword got nerfed so bad in TOTK that I literally never use it… we need another trail of the sword like DLC before I even think of using it
They just need to half the hitpoints of every enemy because they’re way too spongy while you and your weapons are too fragile. Really that’s a problem in a lot of games these days.
I hate that Nintendo thinks they’re slick by hiding the base damage. Maybe they’ll go back on their word and give us DLC (please i’m begging)
So I used the master sword for the entirety of the gannondorf fights and it held through along with the hylian shield
During fights with Phantom Ganons and Ganondorf, the sword gets upgraded to the same durability it has post-trials in BotW. Then during the final phase, it's actually properly unbreakable - because it's required to do the final strike.
its genuinly really awesome that it uses the main mechanic for it to be stronger
If you attach a silver lynel saber horn to it and go fight ganon it’s stupidly easy as it can’t break during the fight
add the fierce deity set and ganon turns into a normal enemy
The master sword should have 3 states powered down 15 damage but indestructible normal 30 damage and powered up at 60 this way it's actually indestructible but not completely broken.
Wow I actually really like this idea. Honestly I’d even argue the base damage should be 40-45 since the game’s story implies that the MS got even better than in BoTW after 10 000 years of time yadda yadda. But that’s a fantastic concept nonetheless, well done.
Fix the durability issues when recharging then yes
This is the answer tbh. As a 65 durability weapon it's pretty good. But with it locked to 40, it's mid as heeweeell
You would think that using battery icons to indicate charge would cause some anachronism and stress suspension of disbelief, but at this point it's like a floppy disk being used to represent "save." so universally understood that it can be used to concisely and immediately convey the function of the meter without any words
That it does functionally LESS damage than in BotW without even improving the durability.
"Does the MS hold up in this game?" Ha, no.
absolutely crazy how it’s not any different from the breath of the wild
I'd go as far as to say it's generally worse 😭 atleast the durability and damage trigger in botw was in the entirety of hyrule castle, letting you plunder it for items super easily and giving you some major strength. Here it's pretty much just a final boss killer :(
@@EonAegis i went back into BOTW to check and youre right 😭 it’s WORSE
i want my master sword trials back
fuse silver lynel horn!! Boom stronger than botw. Cant blame damage if your not properly playing game mechanics.
I don't even use the master sword when i can use MSGnotFound which i can stack all elements to and put a dmg of 400 - 800 on it as well it one shots most in the game
If you fuse it to a silver lynel sabor horn it shreds
WHY IS IT WEAKER THAN BEFORE????????
The narrative dissonance in this game is off the charts.
the narrative dissonance in all zelda games is off the charts
@@cewla3348 What narrative dissonance is there in Twilight Princess?
@@jorgehuertas3995 Ugh. TP the worst 3D Zelda. TOTK is a game and it's balanced. The master sword is the legendary sword that seals the darkness, meaning it delivers final blows to Ganon, that's what it does. You're making up the fact that it's supposed to be stronger that everything all the time
@@rareosts5752Double digit IQ and bad takes on all comments lmao. TP was a great game
@@rareosts5752Room temp IQ + terrible takes
Bro teach me the ways of the master sword and how you drop it
IM YOUR PADAWAN NOW XD
im hyped for the stream! :D
har har har har
(my meds are kicking in rn LOL)
He dropped Msgnotfound which is the beginning master sword the one that ganon breaks
This makes me want a modded master sword with a base of sixty tbh.
Thanks for this information, great video!😊
ALL THIS JUST TO MAKE US PAY MORE FOR DLC
They literally made a problem in botw, fixed it, hyped up the sword by saying it’d be stronger now, AND MADE THAT OLD PROBLEM WORSE! THEY’RE LITERALLY JUST BAITING US INTO BUYING DLC ON THIS ALREADY $70 GAME
if nothing else, it was just really surprising to me to see that they tried to hide the master sword's number, did it so poorly and then it ended up just being the exact same sword :')
the true DLC bait for me is the obvious 8 missing orbs to collect and I hate it so much
@@EonAegis YES BRO
Except there won't be DLC. It's been announced they are done with TOTK. Probably because they are working on the next title for Switch 2. So it has a competent launch title.
This comment didn't age well
@EonAegis you still have more hearts than at start of game. The two slots left is so hearty meals have a use. Not dlc 😂. They would have left more than 2. Yall gotta chill with this and think
Just a reminder to everyone about how it's weaker in TotK than in BotW: it's the only weapon that can reflect gloom energy blasts from Ganondorf (I'm assuming that they didn't put anything special in for the Amiibos or a glitch or something else, because that's the extent of my knowledge and i don't think other weapons could reflect, IDK, but unless I'm wrong, the Master Sword is the only one with that exclusive mechanic). Before it powered up, it couldn't do that, but now that it has that ability.
Also the Master Sword not being the strongest sword in a Zelda game is nothing new. Biggoron Sword from Ocarina of Time was a reward for a sidequest that was stronger than the Master Sword. Heck, there were stronger weapons in BotW than the Master Sword fully powered, there's very few instances in the Zelda series where the base Master Sword is the Strongest sword in the game, it either gets upgraded, or gets a stronger replacement. Sometimes it's even optional, like, again, BotW.
Outside of the bugged durability and strategies for weapon/ armor buff synergy, it's not a bad weapon, heck 30-60 base damage is still pretty good, plus whatever you decide to fuse to the blade. Also considering that it does come back, you could just have a free weapon that does 30 points of damage if you just need something to use instead of a very valuable weapon, and ten minutes isn't much time between the exploration and, you know, other weapons.
Best weapon? No. Solid weapon with utility, significance, reliability, and grants an edge in difficult areas basically for free? Yeah. It's not everything, but I'm not asking for the most broken weapon, just something to get through the final boss, and it can do that well enough.
I think for me it's just the fact that it *does* have the bugged durability. It just makes it a weapon I use to smack rocks. Master Pickaxe.
Mostly because it's fine in terms of pure numbers, but then other weapons have multipliers. and then those become problems in the power scaling because the Master Sword is something you get mid to late game, when it's already massively outclassed. The Master Sword being outclassed is nothing new, but it's never outclassed by the time you get it, and that's moreso the issue for the weapon - It never gets its chance to shine. If it didn't have the bug, it actually would be much more special since it's over 2/3rds of its durability being gone, and it would be an increase of 25-30 compared to most RUSTED weapons in the game.
Especially in the transition between ToTK and BotW, in BotW it was decently powerful. Outclassed, but good durability and always came back. With weapon power now mostly coming from the fuse, nearly every weapon is the same. The base of the Master Sword only adds like 15 at most, with no multipliers - and the weapon slot is no longer a free return because your weapons are married to your material inventory moreso than your weapon slots, and literally every enemy drops weaponry. It has its perks, but since the majority of its perks are carry-over from Breath of the Wild, these perks end up falling flat in Tears of the Kingdom. Again, mostly because it's best niche is hampered by a bug that they haven't fixed despite it having been found somewhat closely after release day.
@@EonAegis I agree with your reasoning, and should they fix the bug then the Master Sword would be a much more viable weapon than what it is currently. I was just saying that it does have good use as a weapon even if it wasn't the most powerful fusion base in the game (even though admittedly, it's more optimal uses are more niche than the sheer attack stat back in BotW). Plus I wanted to defend how the lore of the Master Sword is upheld in gameplay, as it does have unique properties that make it useful.
I still want to use a fully powered Master Sword like in BotW post Master Trials all the time.
Weird. It's almost like it's a game that's balanced for strategy or something
@@rareosts5752"balanced"
Meanwhile all my gerudl and zora weapons fused with silver lynel horns: balance means nothing in this game
Ruining the master sword isn't balance
Good thing emulation and modding exists so I can undo nintendo's bad design choices
Funny how in other games the Master Sword is slashing bushes and jars without issue, but if I use it to hack at the demons it was made to kill it "forgets its purpose."
30 base 5 beam normally . 60 base 10 beam against miasma sub class enemies . 15 beam if wearing champion leathers(and probably tunic of memories? Idk I havent tried the latter), complete Wild set, or any complete Legend set . Beam range is dependent on health . Any fused gains x2 dmg against miasma sub class . 40 durability but regains durability instantly if fighting demon dragon Gannon. If fighting him without the sword you get a cutscene in which the light dragon flies in bringing it to you . Additionally it glows much brighter blue against miasma and makes a notably different, much louder sound when drawn out against miasma subs .
Oh no, I don't think it holds up, the weapon is too weak- WHAT IN SAM HELL WOULD MAKE YOU THINK IT DIDN'T HOLD UP, THS THING IS WAY TOO OP!!! A LEGENDARY CLAYMORE ONLY DOES 38 DAMAGE AND THIS ONE HANDED WEAPON GREATLY SURPASSES THAT, DESPITE BEING WAY EASIER TO REPLACE! WHO IS POWER BALANCING THESE WEAPONS?!?
On its own, it holds up really well. The problem is in fusing, where most easily accessible items either catch up to or eclipse the master sword by simply hitting their bonus requirements. Take a knights broadsword for example - it's bonus will double it's damage, can have modifiers and fuse damage also gets doubled. When pristine or on a particularly good durability reroll, the knights broadsword has better durability as well due to the master sword suffering from a bug.
The 45 and 60s are nice but one is only available in the depths, while the other is an edge case scenario.
Our earlier example, the knights broadsword, is very easily abused in the depths as it only checks health, not gloom corruption, meaning that if you go down into the depths at 1 health, you can still take hits from monsters just fine since those deal damage in gloom corruption. So in a scenario in which the master sword is supposed to shine through, it still loses easily.
@@EonAegis nevermind the knights stuff, I got gerudo and zora weapons hitting easy 100+s from lynel parts, sure that can seem out of the way for some, but you really wont need to hit crazy numbers for a good while anyways, and idek what goron weapons do if they even exist lol
A weapon that basically has infinite durability (And actual infinite durability vs the final bosses) that has the damage of a pristine 2 handed weapon and can still have stuff fused to it, and people whine that it's not the 1 hit oblitorator.
lowkey still pissed at Ganon cuz I literally JUST finished trial of the sword man. VILE!
Should have had a utility use like removing gloom with the laser
* equips a silver lynal horn to the master sword *
Link to Ganondorf: so you have chosen death
thank you this was helpful :)
It delivers at being "the sword that seals the darkness"
Exactly, you're the only person here who seems to understand what the Master Sword even is.
@@rareosts5752and you seem to think you do when you don't
Ain't ever broke til these games
What a bad design choice
All for the illusion of "game balance" when weapons that can outclass it can just be found sitting on the ground in someone's dusty closet
If we really want to nitpick here, the Master Sword opposes all evil
And all monsters are evil, directly born and reborn from Ganon's power
Therefore every monster is filthy with Ganon's influence and the Master Sword should never shatter against any of them according to game lore, not game ""balance""
And that's actually extremely insane. That's already OP levels in this game considering that it still has room to fuse for even more damage
That's why I only have eyes for msg
It is literally broken, not in a good way. When you fuse something to it then it gets the +25 durability, but if you break it then it recharges, and you fuse onto it again it doesn't count it as a new weapon and can't get the bonus durability again.
It would have been cool if you could only damage Ganon using the master sword and any other weapon wouldn't work. Since that is what's supposed to happen in the lore.
its actually the same as in botw, being 30 at the start with it being 60 near malice. that is of course before completing the master sword trials, however the fact you can fuse anything to the master sword makes up for the damage lost.
This video made me realize I didn't take a picture of the master sword before picking it up.
I think it was kept the same because most weapons were nerfed(decayed) to make fuses balanced, so a base value of 30 while still being able to fuse with items, added with fuse items like lynel horns, you're looking at a sword with at least 110 damage with reasonable durability (when you're fighting Ganon: you get 60 base damage)
The one thing people don't seem to be aware of is that the Master Sword doesn't lose durability when fighting Ganon and Phantom Ganon.
I mean I get it they didn't want us to lean on it too much but. That sucks.
YO EON U BLEW UP THATS CRAZY
Now getting the Msgnotfound blade, feels like I got it at a distribution, or gamestop event. Nintendo patched the process out in later updates. They even patched out the easy weapon dupe glitch.
Now that there are no DLC coming, there is no reason to ever update...
The way the damage goes up reminds me of Trial of the Sword. First it's 30, then after Beginning Trials it's 45, after Middle Trials it's 50, and after Final Trials it's 60.
Master sword
>sword is destroyed and eroded by malice, and after a hundred years has recovered but still needs to take it easy
>unlock ancient secret trial made for this occasion, restores much of its power and it can go even longer than before
>it gets fucking destroyed entirely, blade gone
>it gets sent back in time to bathe directly in sacred light for TEN THOUSAND YEARS
>countless iterations of heroes and villains come and go, Hyrule remains in name and people only with a vague understanding of a largely unrecorded history of heroes wielding the younger and mightier blade and fending off great foes
>the sword is rediscovered when it is needed back in its current hero’s hands, with a golden blade that cools and hardens into a beautiful, subtly pearlescent blade
>its perfectly revitalized to its legendary status
>less durability and damage than ever before cus “FYOOOOOOZZ”
>its not even great with fuse cus the durability is bugged
What did miyamoto mean by this
So it only does powered up botw damage the one time you fight the final boss. Boy do I love this game
I really wish there were ways to upgrade the Master Sword further. Like, despite what the story says, maybe in order to tap its absolute full potential, Link is required to revisit locations significant to the Hero of Time and attune himself to the sword, making it more potent, last longer, or hell, maybe at max just make it unbreakable and/or really high damage…
Heck, in previous games, it could even deal *_double damage_* and fire projectiles so long as Link was at full health.
Let me feel _heroic_ while using it. Not like I’m swinging an overhyped rod of glass.
You can fire progectiles woth the master sword at full health just try to throw it
The master sword doesn't live up to it's name at all.
Ok so ye olde tree in the Forrest said if you bathe it in sacred light the power grows so it got damaged in botw 100 years it fixed in totk it got broken and took 10000+ years to fix and still has same durability and damage bruh
The master sword shouldve had a base of 60 75 when fighting gloom enemys and 90 while fighting gloom hands and 120 when fightimg ganons and should have special stuff when you fuse certain items like LD horns and gloom weapons
I like fusing stuff to it. It is a good reliable blade with decent durability, and it makes for a good hammer to mine bocoblins and zoanite with.
Always wondered, thanks