MPC 4000 in 2021? - Why I Switched Back
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- For the past six months or longer, I've exclusively gone back to using my MPC 4000 for most of my music production. It got me thinking about some reasons why I went back to it and what I like and missed about using MPC's for production.
Do you have a vintage MPC that you're using for music production? Thinking bout getting one to use? What do you like or don't like about using your vintage gear for music production in 2021? Let's discuss and let me know why in the comments!
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Bravo!!! you are saying what i teach all of my students. U just more cool saying it!☺
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It's crazy that you made this video, because this is exactly how feel after 20+ years of beat making, I'm tired of software in full-time production.
Software forces you to keep up with all the lastest items (computer, VST's plugins...etc) which in turn just becomes more expensive over time. Not to mention your completely reliant on a computer working and not crashing on you as well. Don't get me wrong it definite has its benefits but for me persopnally alot of times I just dont want to turn on the computer to make music and prefer hardware. Appreciate the feedback and thanks for watching.
You miss using your ears aka SONICS. Your eyes are the guides hence why there is a stupid saturation of garbage 🗑️ music. This is my opinion
@@titanjake8640 agreed, the standard for today's "mixing and mastering" is out of proportion
@@ruethemaker5069 loud is the standard. Templates and autotune. Even in genres such as country has these elements. It is sickening 🤢
@@titanjake8640 @TitanJake I understand why more and more beat makers/producers move on into the industry of stock/royalty-free music, playlists, lofi, etc..
Coming from the dance music scene I'm feeling absolutely the same. That's why I'm mostly sticking to my beloved 2kXL to produce house and techno.
yes I have one of those as well and have been sampling to it all weekend. Time to get back to the basics of music creation ya know.
Still the dopest of the classic MPCs imo!
#Facts and great minds think alike! ..lol
I miss my 4000 but I’m happy with the MPC Live
@@fotpjusto457 As long as you're happy, thats all that matters!
Agree for real
@@fotpjusto457 I have both! I have the MPC Live, which I had for a year. I just bought the 4000 a few days ago and I love it!
You explained this perfectly . I completely agree that using too many plugins is a waste . I've been a Hybrid believer ever since plugins came on to the scene . Well done , great points
Appreciate it 👍🏾
I'm with you I still use my MPC 3000, MPC 4000 and SP 1200 all these years later.
these are ageless machines that still sound GREAT and can be used and connected to today's technology just as easy as well. The process is also just as fun and creative.
Great post. I just went back to the 2500... It's a great machine
The 2500 is an AWESOME machine for sure!!
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I feel you on this topic. I work dawless. All my favorite music producers use this set up in the past and even though some use a hybrid set up now, a lot of their best music was produced with a sampler, drum machine, and synths. I’ve done all set ups(daw only, hybrid, and dawless) and my favorite is dawless. The Mpc 4K is the grandfather of all the new Mpc lineup and the Akai force! I wish the Mpc 4K get its flowers but it’s still the most misunderstood Mpc of all time and most slept on. Great reasons for using it.
The 4K scared people when iut came out because many were still used to the 2KXL and the 3000 workflows. The 4K is actually a easy unit to work because honestly alot of the features that it has for certain types of producers will go unused anyway. I think the misunderstood peiece about the 4K is the fact that alot of producers really just didnt want to learn how to use it in my opinion but once you understand what it does and can do... it becomes the best tool in the arsenal
this is im still using my SP12 & EMU E6400 COMBO hybrid with protools
Whatever sparks the creativity and gives you what need as the end result....then I say go for it!!!
For me it’s all about the swing 😍
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My favorite MPC of them all that gets the most use nowadays. The simplicity and swing of the boutique samplers are unmatched in today’s technology, if you have the “Ear.” You will definitely perceive it. The limitations of the MPC’S made you heed to learning that less is more and it taught you patience because one couldn’t access everything we have today, which by the way can be overwhelming (I’m not complaining). Old school here and I have several older and newer MPC’S and revert back more than often. Those pads you speak of are called Fat pads and came standard on the 4K and can be adapted to mostly all MPC’S if you have the skills to upgrade your own equipment. Keep em coming Peace all
Definitely Agee,,,I have mpc 4000. Mpc X . Sequential circuits Drumtraks and Roland Tr86 with a room full of hardware synths and Arturia soft synths ...The mpc 4000 commands the room 95% of the time ,,, every thing else is for flavor and colors. I never use the computer to write .... just record!! Gotta learn to Use your ears...
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I bought a MPC Live last year and I love it but I had to get my hands on the 4000, which I been trying to get for years but it was so expensive. I just bought one! It came in a few days ago! I got it for $788! And I love it!
Another top reason is the sound quality....Nothing sounds like the 4000.
Indeed 👍
I would argue the MV8000/8800 has great pads just as great for those who like to play hard. The MPC4K is a great machine! Oh, and I agree we have way too much at our finger tips these days! In the multitude of options, it becomes harder to make a decision.
I wish roland would stop playing and update the mv8800. I still use mine regularly.
Love the 4K. Been tempted to pickup another one. Currently using a MPC 1000 (JJOS2XL) & S6000 combo and it’s my favorite combo by far.
Very Cool
Bro, finally…someone who really get it! Job well done!
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I wholeheartedly agree.
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Turn it up. My fav MP
For me is a Best MPC a ever made is unique !! the sampler of 4000 is a Real sampler !!
And yet many people still look at the 4K and pass on it. This has always boggled my mind lol
I've played on and experienced all the MPC's and my heart is with the 2000xl, 2000 and 3000 especially that 2000xl and S950 combination lol, just pure magic ✨
Yeah, I like the 2KXL as well! In the market to pick up another just for nostalgic purposes and before they become unaffordable.
The 4K is my fav of all the classics though.
My manz¡!!! I'm still on the 4k and 3k. It is crazy how the time machine still works more gooder
2000XL and 3000 here, and when I'm away I use a 500. All three sound different, but all three have a sound that IMO beats the sound of Maschine and the new MPCs.
@@SoundstarMusic I have both a 2KXL and a 4K (and an MV8800) and I stick to the 4K as well. I used to have a 60 (as well as a few S950s) but I found that in the modern day the "sound" isn't worth the hassle. For the past while I've been working exclusively on the 4K - its just so easy to use - you can throw a few gigs of samples on a USB drive to have an unlimited collection to supplement your samples. Plus you can even get a USB hub and wireless keyboard (which I have) to easily name all your samples! They really thought of everything with the 4K. I feel like the older units have a little more "swing" and "sound", but the 4K is just so much more convenient and faster and fun to work with.
Hardware is always better.If you maintain your gear, you will always have it. Forget about renting software, and making sure your OS can operate on it.
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This was great. I had the 4000. I loved it.
Yeah man its a really great machine still to this day. Glad you enjoyed the video.
You totally right!
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Very true 👍🏽
In my opinion there’s 4 eras of MPC’s and this one knocks almost all of them out of the water depending on what you wanna do with it.
1. Old School (Roger Linn units) - 60, 60II, and 3000.
2. Classic - 2000, 2000XL
3. Modern - 4000, 2500, 1000, 500, 5000
4. Digital - X, One, Live, Live II.
Dope observation but I’d place the 4K in category 2 personally and in my opinion it’s the best one of the classics devices. I owned the 60MKI,,2KXL and 2500. Used the 3000 almost everyday for years but the 4K is a different beast all together vs those machines. Deeper and allows you to do more with sound to perfect your songs . Thanks for watching as well ✅
@@SoundstarMusic damn you hit that one like a sniper.
4k is classic 2002 not modern batch...
The 2500 is also a classic
Majority of the MPC'S listed aren't even made by Akai Professional. Akai Professional went bankrupt in the early 2000s. The 4000 was the last Japanese Akai MPC before Numark bought the Akai Professional trademark brand name in 2005.
Less is always MORE. Your so right about this. The more tools I have, the less productive I usually am. I know that's true for me. When I have just one stand alone machine to work with, I always made the music that I wanted to make. It was more spontaneous and free flowing...
Having tons of options is just too much, and causes even more confusion as to what to use, and what to make. Give me one unit that can do some things, and that's all I need...SBN RESONATE
👍🏾👍🏾🔥🔥🔥 Less is always better in my opinion
I got the MPC One and although there’s options on there, coming from computer based production, I LOVE the feeling of just turning one thing on and being able to make bops and just have fun again!!
Yeah I can dig it 👍🏾👍🏾
True about the tilt screen!! I started 10years ago with mashine mk1 now got the mk3. but i also have a mpc200xl and mpc2500 and i use them the most. The mk3 comes last but all depends on my mood.
Yeah people sleep on how valuable that one little thing is and can be in my opinion.
@@SoundstarMusic Very true. I have a 2000XL and a 3000 and with both I love the fact that it has a tilt screen. I can sit and use it with the tilt or stand and use it flat. It's nice to have a choice lol
i like the reason you went back!
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Accurate!!!! we did more with less back in the day. And the comment about using your ears is #1. props
As a Producer/Engineer I always communicate using your ears instead of looking at a screen to tell you that your're in the right space. We don't watch music.....we LISTEN to it! And yes I'm getting waaaay more done with the three tools I've been using for the past 6 months or more now.
I couldn’t agree more.
Laptop stuff is overwhelming for me & i always run into something.
it also sounds thousand percent better than all the new mpc models
cool video homie , i love my 2000xl. Even though i do use DAWs i always return to the good ol' faithful blue MPC. Stay up G Peace
I use a DAW as well (Logic Pro X) I mean these days there's no way around them. I can honestly say though that being back to using outboard hardware for most of the production process has been a real joy! I also have my original 2000XL from 20 years ago and fully restored it which will be showcased in a upcoming video as well.
Thanks for watching
This showed up in my videos. This was important as I am thinking about switching to a hybrid workflow with a dedicated hardware sampler/sequencer/arranger. I had the Akai Force, which was great; however, the lack of the flip up screen was a minor annoyance and it was heavy. I would get an MPC Live in a heartbeat if they added the same arranger mode they needed for the Force. But the Live and One are limited in how many tracks you can do in standalone, while the Force had 128 tracks. I think for the MPC Live 3 and MPC One 2, adding that 128 track limit and arranger would be ideal.
But this was a good video that solidified my choice as I am eyeing that new Roland SP404 because of the upgrades and improved functionality.
Great!
Its funny i across this video because recently ive been feeling unmotivated and overwhelmed due to having hundreds of synth VST's AND mixing plugins...little did i know that the issue wasnt myself but all the software i had - it was just way too much. So i dusted off my old korg triton extreme board amd yamaha motif es rack, i learned how to use the Triton as a sequencer and my es rack as a slave device - and bro i actually couldnt believe at how many ideas that became fullu completed tracks ready to be tracked out! Ive made some early 2000's bangers! Lol All the experience and knowledge i gained over the years of mixing, i was able to use at a limit in the Triton due to the limitationsof CPU power, but it was enough to keep me inspired and prioritize the music! I started to research into buying a akai mpc 3000/4000 because thats what Brian Michael Cox used in the 90s. Was good to know that i wasnt the only one that felt a little overwhelmed with having too much tech
Yeah, there is way too much tech involved in the music-making process today. Years ago I decided to simplify my setup and music-making process and I found that I was more productive and made better music with less at my fingertips. There is always gonna be a new shiny tool that will be marketed properly and make us go "ooh and ahh" but in the end, I have to evaluate the need and since 2019 actually I've just been in a space of like "naw Im good, don't need it...I have what need to produce, mix, and master my own music already.
I think each individual is different and some feel like like newer items they purchase will give them an edge over the competition but instead, I denounced the idea of competition as I feel like I'm not competing with anyone but rather just creating music that I love, write and produce to. I use my Roland XV-3080 with either my MPC 2KXL or 4K, then I incorporate that with Logic and all that it does, with about maybe 4-5 VST's (Kontakt, Initial audio..etc) and that's all I use.
The reason I switched back to this way of producing is the same reason I got rid of my Maschine MK3......just too much going on ...lol Sorry for the long comment and thanks for watching👍🏾
No need to apologise my brotha, Its all good. We share the same passion, i could talk about this stuff all day long lol. There is something great about making music the old school way because the formula just works. So many hits were made using this technique - that is why im going back to the basic. Peace. @@SoundstarMusic
@@JSoulKeys Old is gold! 💯✌🏾
That thing beautiful 🙌🏾
Yeah I’ve been thinking for a while about digging out my 4000. Got the One, but I just use that for sample playback these days.
Go for it and pull it back out. I think you'll enjoy it.
@@SoundstarMusic I have and have been sampling synths at 24bit 96khz. All day. Sounds so good. Taking up a lot of space tho
Thank you for the video. I have a 2000Xl but I was always curious about the 4000. A RUclipsr did a sound comparison between the 4000 and the MPC One and it was very hard to distinguish between the two. Quick question: In terms of workflow, is the 4000 similar to the 2000XL? Thank you for sharing the video. Blessings!
The 2KXL is a great machine in its own right and to be honest with these sound comparison videos its kinda hard to tell what the goal is really. With that being said the 2KXL and the 4K are two totally different machines in my opinion. The OS on it is completely different and it allows you to do alot of different things the 2KXL didnt. The 4K sample time is longer, holds more memory, has higher sample rates up to 96khz, has a digital ADAT option etc.... When fully expanded (or even without being fully expanded) the 4K is in a class by itself. Glad you enjoyed the video.
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I loved the sound of this thing and the workflow but I always thought the onboard effects sucked, for the most part. I still have mine, but it's been sitting in storage for a number of years now. What I miss the mot about this machine is this upper mid frequency coloration thing it did. No other machine sounds like it.
I'd say given its age there weren't too many MPC's that had effects that were better than the 4K. I use them sparingly on certain sounds but these days the DAW has better choices for the added ear candy stuff. Go get it out of staorage and start back playing with it :)
I agree, to much can stifel creativity. Good luck on your journey.
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Ain't No Pads Like MPC Pad! I feel th same way. I'm going back to an analog mixer and Adat machines.
I went back to an 16 channel analog mixer myself (Mackie 1604VLZ4). I run my drums through mic pre's as well.
Great video. You do have find what good for your work flow. I was making everything in mpclive mk1 now I use roland vs 2480. Yep a digital recorder. Live no quantization no midi. I still ise the mpc only as a instrument. Same as i use a keyboard synth. After learning the operating system. I really like the work flow. Especially with the motorized faders.
I used one of those on some of my first ever recordings with some friends as well.
My favorite MPC
Mine as well.
I love the point you made about overchoice!
Right on. For me personally having too many things in the arsenal just became unproductive and started to render me ineffective at finishing music before moving on to the next thing. So I just went back to the basics when creating and needed something simple and my 4K is that for me.
@@SoundstarMusic dope stuff. I think of terms of simplicity for me what I've done is hide plugins in logic, create templates, and sometimes I'll challenge myself to make a beat using only 1 plugin for sounds
@@oshaymusicgroup yup that all works as well!
This video aged well you see the flack Easki getting for making some of these same points👍🏾👍🏾
I appreciate that!!! I think mostly if people pay attention to consumerism and sound they would've arrived at the same spot as he and I both did.
One of my friends has the 4000...I have 4 other samplers,including the Roland MV8800/Polyend Tracker,and I have a hybrid studio setup..
if it works, it works!
Great video, man.
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4k is an awesome machine
It is indeed!
I am looking at getting an old model too, the new ones are overkill for me, and yes, the new pads are rock hard on my live II, I just wanted a keyboard and an mpc, for me, my live ii is overloaded. Good talk, been thinking that way for a while. Less is more productivity.
If you're looking into the older models for simplicity I think the 4K is a really great option and priced decently as well. Beyond that, the 2KXL is another great cost effective option and I really wouldn't look at any others beyond these two in my opinion. www.reverb.com has alot to choose from so you can browse there and search. Appreciate the feedback and thanks for watching.
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Great stuff.
Being relatively new to these touchscreen devices, it has been hard not to fall into the trap of getting something with all the bells and whistles only to realise I suddenly did not want to turn them on because they were just overwhelming me, I have made so many mistakes like that, so hearing your talk on the matter just gave me the ligh bulb moment to say enough and step back a recall why I enjoyed making beats and music. The gear literally separated me from my passion and I kept trying to fix the feeling of separation with more "better" gear.
These "old skool" machines seem to have been built to help you capture your creativity and NOT get in your way with what the current developers think you need.
4Ks and 2KXLs look like works of passion, looking over them.
Great talk.
@@SoundstarMusic Funnily enough, I actually think the MPC 4000 has a more sophisticated feature set and workflow than the modern-day MPC. The modulation matrix alone is amazing. I feel like these were real tools for real work. The workflow was tight. The modern one feels like working with a hand behind your back. Just can't get the muscle memory down with a touchscreen versus physical buttons.
“You make music with your ears, not your eyes”. That’s the beginning and the end of the debate right there. Everything that’s gone wrong with music is folks making music with their eyes.
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Facts!!!!!! MPC pads are god
Nothing like them! Especially the pads on the classic machines.
Yeah I get what you mean about not wanting to have to turn the computer on to cook something. I'm beginning to pick up some standalone machines specifically because I'm tired of seeing the same daw and cooking with midi controllers can be fun but really i dont wanna have to plug in a bunch of gear when i can just have one machine that allows me to have fun making beats.
Having fun and creating is whats its all about! 1000% Agree!
Dope Unit full option
FACTS!!!!!
I disabled the vst plugins for a while on my m+, (I have too much plugins and rack extensions for reason lol)only used expansion packs and the built in instruments. ( I still attached my m+ to the laptop for cpu and have a battery so I could take it on the sofa/ bed, etc) Because I remembered the best stuff I made on maschine was with my mk1 at version 1.5 I think when vsts weren’t incorporated yet. Weird how my music started to sound differently, not just the sound but the arrangement too. My guess it’s almost all sample based so it’s different than using instruments. I did use heaps of internal fx though on every sound almost, because I love the sound sculpting.
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Never used an MPC before. I know it’s legendary though! I use Maschine MK1, it’s all I’ve ever used. Some of the points you make are why I like Maschine as opposed to a full fledged DAW like Studio One, which I also use. There’s so much happening in a DAW I feel like I can’t concentrate lol! Maschine software is the perfect amount of computer usage for me. That’s where Maschine shines, in concert with the software. But man I would like to be able to just turn on some equipment and go! That’s gotta be a great feeling! And also back in the day I played around with the little MPC that had the built in sounds, can’t remember what it’s called. But even those pads felt great! I hate the pads on my Maschine controller!
Lol.. the MK3 would DEFINITELY suit you better for sure The software is the same but if you upgrade the controller you'd gain more dedicated button control over certain aspects and more features vs hitting shift and another button all the time.
@@SoundstarMusicSince I last watched this video I bought a MPC X, the regular one not the SE. I know it ain’t a 4000 but I sure do love using it!
@@leogolive whatever works for ya just keep making music 👍🏾
lol you sound like me!...dont jump in the comments if you never had or dont know how to use a mpc!. Theres a satisfation element to using a more tactile way of making music harware is crazy!. Got a fully Loaded 4K Motif XF and Fantom G!. just nice to sit there and create!
Dope video and I agree
Right on. Thanks for watching. 🙏🏾🙏🏾
What do you use to clean the surface on the mpc 4000?
I use an old fashion duster I picked up from target of all places LOL
I have one for 20 years ,I like the sound and swing better than the MPC x
Agreed..
Someone is trying to sell me theirs for $500. Should I take the deal and bite the bullet? I already have my full studio ready to go (maschine studio, kontrol s61 mk1, reloop rp700, stanton m207 mixer), but I always liked the mpc 4000 out of all the mpcs
$500 thats beyond a steal as long as it's not damaged or anything. I'd say go for it if you really want one. You can always resell for more in the end if you decide to part with it..
I'm getting back in the game after 20 years. My mpc 2000xl is down what do you think about the MPC Live 2 Or the MPC 4000. I want the 4000 but people say get MPC Live 2. what you think?
Each person is different in their approach. I'd say consider how you plan to use the device. Are you a mobile producer or mostly in-home studio? These types of questions believe it or not help determine the purpose and the purchase of the right device. Also consider what it cost to fix the the 2KXL vs buying a new machine. I'd say because you have one of the best classic MPC's already look into fixing that one (www.mpcstuff.com) because they are becoming rare and the value of them is increasing but if thats not an option for you because of cost then the 4K would be my next choice and they are reasonbly priced (but not for long). I personally dislike the newer MPC's because they are more of controller hybrids to me. Hope that helps !
@@SoundstarMusic Thanks man that help me out a lot im doing in house work . So i might get the mpc 4000 and get my xl fixed later.
@@williewill2460 👍🏾👍🏾🔥🔥🔥 Glad I could help.
I'm curious to know if you've checked out Orchestral Tools' instruments?
I have not but I have a ton of these types of instruments from various vendors though.
The 4000 was dope but the sound of the MPC 60 is classic.
4000 is my favorite MPC. I owned the original 60MKI and the 12bit lo-fi is great but I could never use that machine again honestly.
The 60II had the warmest sound. I’ve used the 60,60II,3000,4000, 2000,2000XL, and X. The X is a beast on the sound too. I used the 60II, 3000, and 4000 the most. They all have unique sounds that are slightly different to the discerning ear. I still have my 4000. It is WAAAAAY UNDERATED!!! It’s so deep in what it can do that most people didn’t read and learn everything but if you did. Bro - this thing is a monster. The only one that is compatible and slightly better feature wise is the X imo. But for those that have it, you know what I’m saying. For clarity, each one will give you a sound that is preferable to you so it’s subjective. I’d say try them out and buy what you want. For the controller users - Im not hating those. I have the Push 2, Maschine Studio and Jam. Check them all out and get what sounds best to you and is best for your flow. I personally seem to do different things with them just because of the work flow. Boom Bap/Lo-fi? MPC!
I've had the a few mpcs and current have the live and the mpc x. Got the live first for cost and portability but still craved the x and a few years later got the x. If I could do it again I would have got the x first. Still glad I have both now though. I use the live as the interface with a laptop and my desk top and it's awesome for traveling and studio sessions. The MPC x is my go to and it never leaves the house. It can do so much you really don't need anything else. Expand the storage and you can store all your sounds and drums.
Yeah Im sure the X is beast but with the way that i make music on the 4K I can do all the same and it connects to my computer via 1/4" cables into my apollo rack. I can play my VST from it or just use my NI M32 to play VST instruments to midi tracks ornthe 4K. So for me personally its the same thing in my opinion the X just makes certain things quicker and thats great for those producers where speed is an issue for them. Thanks for watching and I hoped you enjoyed the vid! 👍🏾
@@SoundstarMusic the 4k is a beast I always wanted one. It has Zhe most capable sampler of all the older models. I just decided to go with modern technology with the live and the x but I still love the 4k. It's a beast of machine even now.
The mpc x vibes
MPC Renaissance has a good pads too
Dope.. I never messed with the Renaissance when it dropped but if the pads feel like the old school classic MPC’s then that a win win 👍🏾
i just use the computer like tape, everything else outboard. 4k is a beast
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4000 great workhorse)
i wish akai would remake and reissue some of those old mpc's brand new like how that other company did with the Emu Sp-1200
I'm not sure what it would be or look like honestly. I mean how could you re-release/re-create the 60, 3000, 2000XL, and 4000 which are classic machines, and not to mention those units are still being purchased today in 2022? I feel like the MPC X is a mix between old-school feel (build quality and size) and new-age technology.... but I'm just not sure what that would look like honestly. Original SP1200's are (1) rare to find and (2) if you find one you'll pay an astronomical fee for it ... lol
It'll never happen. When Akai went bust in the 00s, they laid off 100% of their staff. That talent and information is long gone.
@@HammyHavoc they literally just do what they did with the sp-1200 re hire the people that designed it to re issue it. That ain’t hard. E-Mu is not even a company anymore and the guy that designed and engineered it remade it
imo it's quite sick. The 4000 sounds like the new school MPCs, but it still has the old hardware balls in the low-mids/sub. The quantise is amazing sounding /implemented but I would still prefer Ableton workflow but the sound is shit.
I would say the 4K sounds like the new ones though.
Great video.
Thanks.
"We have waaaaayy Too many TOOLS" God you Ain't lyin! The more stuff I bought the less I was getting done!
Yup! I've scaled back a whole LOT! since this video. Just my MPC and like one or two VST's and that's it.
@@SoundstarMusic It’s so difficult especially when you’re a producer arranger and composer. I’m still trying to figure it out!
@@ameeromedia5883 Yeah I get it for sure!
Wish I could find a solid 4k
Yeah they are becoming rare and rare because no one is selling theres (like me ...ha ha) but here are two. 👍🏾👍🏾
reverb.com/item/75550197-akai-mpc4000-music-production-center-2002-2007-white
reverb.com/item/74996245-akai-mpc4000-music-production-center-2002-2007-white
It’s true . With Mpcx it forced me to use my ears and create melodies on the pads.
Yeah its definitley a fun process for sure! 👍🏾👍🏾
@@SoundstarMusic making simple Melodie's hitting those pads is a good experience.
I got both and i use both but i also have a ton of samplers so i switch according to my mood
I see a lot of people on youtube calling these samplers analog but they are digital samplers they sound great tho also gotta be careful with the 4000 jog wheel buttons mines always go bad for some reason
Does that thing have a floppy disk ?
floppy disk were obsolete by the time the 4K was released. They came with internal hard drives and CD-Rom drives as optional installs for more money. My device has a internal SSD drive in it currently.
I miss mine... I bought it back in 2004. I had to pay rent was broke.
Nothing ismor3 simple than Maschine plus I understand you not wanting to turn on a computer though.
This was my first MPC I ever owned. I want to switch back so bad but I don’t trust peoples gear online. There’s a lot duds out there.
Understandable but buying something used nowadays is basically going to require that you maintenance something or another so just look for a machine with the items you absolutely don't want to replace (screen, mainboard, etc) and those you don't mind replacing (knobs, pads, buttons) and you should be good.
Why not get a mpc x?
(1) I really dislike hybrid devices quite honestly, (2) I also already own a classic machine, and (3) that puts me closer to software not further from it which is my preferred way of producing music nowadays. The MPC X is probably a great box but I'm fluent on my 4K, and know how to use it in almost every way imaginable. Why interrupt something if there's no need?
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Well you should have bought the Maschine plus
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MPC X, can have one for about $1500 used on Ebay, so much better and more convenient. A much more affordable option is the MPC Live for portable use (and internal HDD capability) while the MPC One will get your feet in the door...if you don't need HDD storage or portability, get the MPC One. All of the current MPC gen products beat the 4k, and, the current MPC gen products have emulation plugins for classic MPC hardware to process the sound and make them sound very close to the vintage MPC products.
I personally use an MPC Live 1 as a controller for the PC and an MPC Live 2 in bed as I cannot justify $1500 for all the knobs, buttons, inputs and outputs (the software between the MPC One / MPC Live 1 / MPC Live 2 / MPC X is the same, the Force is very similar, but is a different kind of unit designed more for live producing... This means, you really just need to compare the hardware of the four units, software wise, they all have the same capabilities, and it is hard to justify twice the price for more IO and controls).
I respect your opinion but this video was not about which device is best but rather why I switched back to a device that I already own vs what I was using.
@@SoundstarMusic I agree with you. I went DAWless in 2011. it's not about the best gear. I stopped using Logic and started using my MPC2500, I have since added a SP 404a and SP- 808 etc... I find these boxes have their own personalities and make creating music fun.
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The 4000 eats all other MPCs for lunch due to its modulation matrix and free flowing LFOs which turn it into a sampler/synth.Plus you can pop a USB stick into the front and also attach qwerty keyboard for naming samples.ectect.And in my ears it has an edge on sound over most.
@@mattyg499 All of the classic MPC's have their thing that people like. I found that after owning all of what I consider to be the best classic MPC's (2KXL, 3K, 4K, 2500, 60MK1) the 4K has the best intuitive simplistic workflow for me but i get what you mean.
I just sequence the new rossum sp with mpc live, don’t like the sound of the new mpcs but great for sequencing
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The big ones usually have a better sound
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No the MPC X is boss mode. I had the 4000 plus fully loaded. It’s was mad tight but very slow in terms of today. You should have never got with machine. beats don’t bang and no feel coming from it.
To each is own and Im not bothered by the work flow of it. I personally don't need to make beats fast and if we're being honest most people that do aren't earning a living from music like I am...but I digress on that point.
In terms of the maschine and it not being able to bang out nice sounding music is nonsense. Its not about the tool but what you put into the tool that makes the sound coming out of it. The swing feature is solid as is the speed in which you can edit audio, chop samples, automation etc etc..
That being said I use my 4K 99% of time as a choice because I love the workflow of it personally and don't need to turn on a computer when being creative most times in the creative process.
Thanks for watching.
@@SoundstarMusic for some reason I have yet heard a beat that bangs from the machine. I talked and listened to a lot of artists who work on it. Nothing tight. Yeah, they sound nice but do they bang NO. I'm not a hater either I just wanted to hear something that's banging coming from the machine but it hasn't happened yet. It's like it's got no pocket if that makes sense. Oh well I know I'll be without. Although I hear the workflow is tight.
Keep making videos bro you are doing a great job. Eventually, I'll have something for you to check out. Peace ✌️🏿
Neither device is better than the other, this matter is subjective. I have both and they both have their strength and weaknesses, I make dope beats on both, and you can’t ever have enough resources as VST’s and daws . Actually different tools spark different ideas. Don’t get me wrong but I think a person that can’t handle
Different kinds of software and hardware has a limited imagination for creativity.
All good points, although I respectfully disagree with some. Never said either device was better than the other as well. 👍🏾👍🏾
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