Stay Alive and HM7000 in a Class 08? Is it easy now?
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025
- Testing the new AE Model's micro stay lives for TT120 in both a Class 50 and attempting to fit one to a Class 08... stay tuned!
Stay alive link is here (via Resource Hub)
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Class 50s are here (Affiliate)
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Class 08s are here (Affiliate)
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Nicely done Greg, its a bit late but maybe it will help others, I find a light shinning against the outside of the shell helps to judge the thickness of the body as you grind it, theres a wiring diagram in my video of the one i did if you ever fancy doing another one 👍
Good advice Richard - thanks! But I think this is my only foray into such deep waters - I am replenished with new admiration for what you managed - all this plus lights too - makes me come out in a cold sweat! 🤣
@@mactrains haha thank you, i think having dealt with alot of N gauge the TT experience is a little less cold sweaty for me, i love how the hobby makes us try new things and you've done a great job, the Stay alives are a dream aren't they!
Yup - the stay alive make a huge difference, not even to the running, but just knowing that they will run, virtually flawlessly. Thanks
“Suck it out” ??? I beg your pardon! 🤣🤣🤣
Excellent work Greg….👌
This is what happens when I ad-lib... happens to the PM too apparently... 🌭
@@mactrains 🤣🤣
Well done Greg. You’ve given me the confidence to fit in my class 50 now.
Excellent Les - it it really not hard, though the 50 runs pretty well even without the stay alive, at least in my experience.
Both honest and brave. I wouldn't try fiddling with the insides of any of my models, so hats off to you.
In fairness had guys like Richard at This Way Works not shown it could be done there is no way I would ever have even attempted it! Too, too kind as ever
Brave man, well done. I wouldn't dare do it !
Took me a good few weeks to build up the guts!
Very nice congratulations on fitting the chips
Thanks Steven 👍. I am pleasantly surprised I didn't ruin the whole thing.
Well done mate cracking job 👌
Thanks Anth, 👍. Sheer nerves of... jelly
Nice video, I'm waiting for the 6 pin and see what can be done with that.
Wise man...!
Hi Greg, thanks for the excellent content. Could you tell me which decoder and wiring you use and if poss which supplier. Keep up the good work and thanks for developing the resource hub, it's brilliant.
Hi Alan - sorry should really have made plain in the video - this is the 8 pin txs chip - as it has the pre-soldered wires to use. The stay alive was direct from DCC Concepts. Hope that helps.
Awesome, thanks Greg, I'll get one and dive in, what could possibly go wrong 😁@@mactrains
Hi Alan - I should also have said that I very slightly sanded down the plugs on the end of both the stay alive and speaker, which may have made almost no difference whatsoever, but I think it allowed the chip to sit very slightly flatter inside the loco body.
Hi there we used a zimo in my 08 and they also do a stay alive too. smaller chip. caroline
Thats a great option if either you have an HM7000 dongle or don't want bluetooth functionality. Does it do sound too?
Isn’t the Zimo pretty expensive? I was looking at that but thought it would nearly double the loco cost
yes .
That was brave. I wouldn't have dared to grind anything off the casing. I once drilled a hole in the weight block of a die-cast zinc locomotive for a steam generator, but that was the best I could do so far, and even then I sweated blood and water.
Wouldn't sanding the edges of the decoder be just as effective? At least 0.5mm seems to be possible on both sides with fine sandpaper and a lot of sensitivity. In that case, it only hurts your wallet if something goes wrong. But the blue 08 itself is no longer available, at least from Hornby.
I did look at the decoder and considered doing that, and in fact I did grind away a slight angle off the plug sockets to allow easier fitting, but I left the decoder itself alone.
Great work Greg, not something that I would take on. Guess that those stay alive’s will easily fit in A1/A3/A4’s as well?
It varies with these. Depends on the tenders. Peachy has an excellent run down in his video of what will and won’t work.
Quite an achievement getting that into the 08! I think I'll stick with DC for a while myself, looks a wee bit beyond my nerve and skill level
Your 08 already runs beautifully Dave - no need!
@@mactrains most of the time… you’ve not seen the outtakes where it’s started by the giant finger from the sky 😂
We all edit out those bits..! 😆
Great video and fair warning for my skill level. Please could you let me know the detail of how you wired up the decoder so that when I’ve forgotten your warnings I can have a go?
Ah, that was a panic whatsapp to Peachy! Motor+ is the light orange, Motor- is the grey. Track+ is the red/orange, and Track- is black.
Hi love the video, scares the sh@@ out of me tho to do it myself, do you know if anyone has fitted a nano 6 pin and used the hm7000 link via expressnet to a select controller to get round the chip size?
I'm fairly sure a number of folk used the dongle for this and it certainly a way easier route. But of course then it means buying the dongle and the select or elite controller if you don't already have one. But if I did have one, thats exactly what I'd have done.
I was just gifted a select, so I think I’ll try that route especially as hornby don’t appear forthcoming with their 6 pin decoder until autumn 2025, still waiting for the green 08 and the j50 though to try it.
If you have a select, then def go that route. This way is only for the clinically insane!
Who Dares Wins 🚂
Either that or (in my case) no fool like an old fool!! 🤣
I may have missed but which HM7000 decoder did you use for the 08? The 8 pin?
Sorry Damian - you're quite correct I didn't;t actually say - but yes, it is the 8-pin. Thanks for watching!
Not for me . too scary . I’ll keep waiting for a 6 pin hm7000. Or maybe if the J50 is better to fit, i might use that as a shunter.
I don't think you're alone! Thanks for watching.
If you need a stay alive in a 50 then you should check your track because there is something seriously wrong.
See comment below to Les