You're basically an immortal soldier and everyone wants to use you or base new soldiers off your DNA now that they know you can't die. As that type of being, smartest thing Ethan can do is let everyone think he's dead.
He's Gordon Freeman with an actual (barely) personality. I love it. I always loved video game plots that use the main characters inherent invincibility and ridiculous power as a part of the plot as different factions use that to take each other on all the while being picked off one by one. It's so meta and honestly there's not a ton you can do with it but it does so much for the whole power fantasy and let's you both acknowledge it and run with it making you fell like a super hero
The agent guy said "You're a lot like him you know" and her responce was "I know" I'm bettin' she's already in communication with Ethan's conscience. Arguably every conscience the Megamycete has ever absorbed.
So you mean that ethan live in rose mind like how eveline do to ethan? Well that maybe have a sense to for me because why rose just like soo deep feeling with the father who actually not met yet in live and just knowing the story from mia and cris. Like rose actually trully love ethan as father figure and some reason she's not have that moment in her life. Are we finally will have super biotec as protagonis? It will be oposite to other protagonis like being dark hero? Well in my thinking only hehe.
@@prosackmetheus5409 or mia told the story, because hearing such heroic story you gotta admire ur dad (theory so chile). You never know what the game gonna give you, like you though this is a vampire RE but turned out it's all mold
When they say "the father's story is now done" I don't think they mean Ethan as a character I think it's them (a) trying to get you to believe he's dead (b) telling us he's no longer the protagonist and now we're moving on to playing Rose as a teenager
Meaning maybe Ethan is still alive but his story is over, cuz if Ethan is literally immortal, it would be pathetic to even make him in an RE story, cuz he just cant die,
People say Ethan isn’t a good protagonist, and maybe that’s true, maybe he isn’t the best, but I’ll be damned if I let people say he’s the worst. After playing as him through 7 and 8, I can’t lie, I’m going to miss him.
"You're a lot like him, you know?" "I know" The megamycete stores "memories" from its hosts. Ethan was a host, and so is Rose. What if a little bit of Ethan still lives within Rose?
This is what I thought. This is also why the one dude called her Eveline, not just because they’re both molded but instead because Eveline lives inside of her to some extent, as do all the other molded since she’s connected to them all
i mean im not sure exactly how rose was concieved, but isnt there a possibility is rose is a new version of the megamycete? because they did destroy the old one with the big explosion
Ethan outdone all the main cast of RE. I mean he destroyed the main source of how RE came to be. Miranda was the cause of the formation of umbrella which in turn how re1-6 came to be
Ethan is alive and he's one of the best characters in the series because he started out as a normal regular guy and just had the guts to go save his family just like a real man would!!
Syrus Coy ? You can be a gay/wimpy but still manly as hell bro wth are you talking about? Being manly is all about being a good person, not just some “masculine” shjt. That’s what we call “manly”. Btw, saying sexist garbage from your own selfish POV isn’t manly at all, just saying ;)
Out of all the games, I never did get attached to a main character like a did Ethan, he was a normal dude that kept getting caught up in these crazy scenarios
Is it me or did I enjoy the Ethan story a bit too much like I seriously can't get enough of these theories there's no way Capcom put Ethan's model as a coincidence they probably did it for this exact same reason to get people to make theories
@@RealCGH It probably is, because, if Rose has the same powers as Eveline, but amplified, then she can very VERY easilly make hallucinations or see them herself.
Maybe Miranda isn't dead or they found out how to use a portion of the mutation of Miranda who can mimicry. So what they might do is that they are using his character model because they are going to have dlc of a continuation of this ending scene being the opening like he said.
@@Yikes200 Miranda and Ethan are both 1000% dead. They literally got turn to dust from the city sized explosion. So my theory is that its either A. Roze is just hallucinating or B. Roze powers are so great, that he can have a constant manifestation of her father at all times, visible to anyone close to her.
I want Ethan to be alive. Well, so to speak, since I suppose he wasn't technically 'alive' for the entirety of both games. I just got so attached to this 'normal' guy who got dragged into this insanity and did his best to find and keep his family alive. It's honestly admirable that he did so well for himself. And it would just be neat if he managed to survive in some capacity, even as a 'hallucination' of sorts, his consciousness trapped in the megamycete that Rose can communicate with.
This always happens in video games man, I want ethan to be alive too, but I think the devs wanted ethan's saga to end, so they made him kind-of-dead. That's why "the father's story is now done" In every damn game, the main character last till 1st or 2nd part of the game. That's it. I got attached to ethan a lot too, i hope they bring him again
I think Ethan is a great character apart from his really stupid moments. I think he has a good character development etc BUT I feel like bringing him back to life after being blown to smithereens would be a bit too much. Even know it was explained for why he can regenerate so much, alot of the fans while playing through the game were a bit like "right...sure video game logic" so to do that again after so many injuries + deaths would be a bit ridiculous. I'm not sure though, It really depends on how they present his return in res9 (if that even happens) You can either present something really well or half ass it so, it just depends on presentation in the next upcoming game.
I figured since the consciousness is connected, the reason Rose feels so strongly about a man she never met, is cuz she has the memories of what Ethan went through to save her.
The guy with Rose inside the Jeep said to her "You're like your dad." Rose replied, "I know." That made me think that she and Ethan are secretly seeing each other.
My theory is, this could just be Rose's first time hallucinating Ethan and simply ordered the driver to stop. Meaning, she can now able to communicate with her dead dad telepathically and could help throughout her adventure.
If she's hallucinating then he wouldn't look the way he does as when he does in the village there is no way she would remember that. Because Ethan's hand is decaying and missing 3 fingers. If she was hallucinating it would be based off pictures she's seen of him
@@n1imnotfaze580 Well if the consciousness thing with the megamycete works how I think it does, the hallucination might be based on how the consciousness was last "recorded" by the megamycete, which would've been Ethan as he was right before the explosion. That's my take on it for why he looks like he did at the end, but maybe they just used him as is just because that was the final state of his character model so who knows?
@Johnny Moon It was just my take on it bud, considering the hands still in the same state which the other person who first brought it up mentioned doesn't make sense since Rose wouldn't have seen him like that. Unless you're trying to say it's a still living Ethan, which we'll only know once we hear from Capcom
“Maybe we’ll have Chris shooting Rose in the head at the end of Resident Evil 9.” Damn the new games just involve Chris killing Ethans entire bloodline because Ethan didn’t fuck Claire.
I love how heisenberg mentions chis by calling him a Boulder punching prick lmao, like even in the RE universe everyone knows about his fight with wesker in re5
BSAA member taking the statement of Chris after RE5 BSAA: "You....punched the boulder?" Chris: "Yes" BSAA: "Into the lava river.... inside a volcano"? Chris: "Yes" BSAA: "The twice your size and several times your weight boulder....into a lava river" Chris: "......yes" BSAA: "Yup, this one going viral in my instagram"
Now Ethan has 2 possibilities: he is pure consciousness in the my-seed’s storage or his body physically survived ie regenerated. I think the “evidence” points more to the latter though this is RE storytelling so logic isn’t exactly a given. There are 2 ideas. One, what makes more sense; the mega myseed surviving a point blank bomb in the epicenter of the explosion or Ethans mold body having just enough left from being farther away from the explosion to regenerate from? Now the former could be explained away if the myseed has a mycelium network that stretches underground for miles beyond the reach of the explosion but that Sentral heart thing seems pretty important so I think it’s more likely Ethan who was farther away form the epicenter survived in the flesh rather then the myseed which was point blank in the bomb. But again that could be explained away either way. However the second piece of evidence synergies more with Ethan in the flesh as well. When Ethan is in the myseed consciousness world on the brink of death or dead? He has both his hands where when he wakes up back to reality his hands are bandaged up and mutilated again. Ethan in the final shot has the bandaged hand not the intact hands. Unless the myseed conciousnous form of Ethan also would have bandaged hands (makes less sense to me but this is RE) and the evalin dream state was not from the myseed (even though Ethan learned of knowledge impossible/less likely for him to have learned form hallucinating or fever dreams, I am going to believe he is actually alive and the myseed is dead. Though could be retconned either way.
I wont doubt it specially since Miranda havent gotten any action because of her busy life She probably jumped his pipe(bomb) every time the baby is sleeping
@@Sitthipong26006 not exactly. Because Rose is pretty much a replica of Evelyn, she probably also ages at a faster rate. So the end cutscene is probably only around 10-15 years after the Ethan's death
Ethan is too good of a character to just cross out. He should be up the ranks with Chris, Leon and Jill. Especially since RE7 renewed a lot of interest back into the series like his goofy ability to reattach his hands and legs with the juice in the aftershave bottles.
@@NovaShen4 I agree to an extent. Ethan was ment as a Resident Evil character seen from an everyman's pov. A civilian. After the events of Village, I bet people are going to form more of an attachment to the character, though.
The fact that Ethan survived those 3 years and with how resistant the mold is it wouldnt suprise me if Ethan actually survived and needed to enter a hibernation like state until he recovered from all the damage he took in villahe
Ethan can actually be alive Reason 1: He's made out of mold so he can probably Regenarate or Manipulate other molds to fix his own body. Reason 2: Duke is actually the 5th Lord and nobody know's his ability so he possibly saved Ethan. Btw, Duke represents the "Owl".
@@airyangelic852 in the ending when Ethan is in the Duke’s carriage after getting his heart ripped out the rug on the floor is the dukes symbol, (aka the owl) is his insignia as the fifth lord.
I think her line of: "I can show you things Chris isn't even aware of that I can do" means she can revive people. It's not based on anything, but maybe she can pull people from the megamycete, and use her powers to give them a body from the mold. maybe this means she wants to get away from the organisation, and Ethan going to help her. Just a wild theory
Ethan is accidentally the most prototype monster ever created but monster with heart and love Edit : holy smoke i never get these likes before thank you guys
"We created the ultimate weapon!" "What? How?!?!" "All we needed to do was make a loving father immortal and then steal his daughter!" "Wait... so you created the ultimate weapon... and pointed it at us?" "YES! I'm making the founders of Umbrella so proud right now!"
I think it would be interesting if Rose took on the anti heroine approach to bring Ethan back. Maybe through the hallucinations, Ethan tries to talk his daughter out of walking down a dangerous path she'll regret. They've already established that the two have a deep connection (even though Rose grew up without him physically there). I'd be down with it.
Viruses in Resident evil is at the realm of being supernatural at this point. So it is plausible that Ethan might be able to be with Rose consciously considering they are related and Evelyn/Baker family talked to Ethan the same way. My only issue is that Capcom has a bunch of explaining to do to reason why Bio weapon Viruses across the world haven’t been clamped and shut down by United Nations, the fact that the BSAA has now been doing their own experiments without government oversight or whistleblowers from the staff sounds like horseshit. World building is pretty much fucked.
@@talicgodfrey6560 To me, I've looked at 7, and now 8, as companions to the series rather than continuations. I know they're not but that's just how I view them lore wise. I didn't really understand why they just pushed the events of 7 underneath a rug. Like, it's mentioned that it was covered up by a gas leak but...come on...I know us Louisianians are crazy but we're not THAT crazy. It would be questioned. Hell, we'd probably get a lead on all this before the Saints game starts. We'd even question why the Bakers were so hostile. (I have dumb issues with 7 on that part. The accents as an example.) I can understand your point as well. I can see where they're trying to take it but I feel like they need to do some extra explaining, or I'm just missing out on some lore-which could be possible. (I enjoy RE but I'm not the type to know every tiny bit of lore there is. I don't have the time, haha.) I think it would be interesting if they did a prequel DLC or something, setting up Miranda as 8's villain and how this big..."megablob" essentially sets up everything. Or that might be what 9 will be about? It's RE so who knows, really?
@@ashtoneva4926 We just have to see what DLC will come out. I’m expecting to see Chris’s trip to Europe for BSAA HQ since that was mentioned at the end, best thing I could see is getting information on workers who happen to be former researchers of Umbrella exchanging hands with higher officials in that site, corruption etc.
Exactly, Miranda and Eveline has proven that those who got infected are connected to one another, yes the Megamycete is gone but Rose still exists and has her mold power. It could be said that Rose has become the second databank for Megamycete's record as the first and main got destroyed by Ethan. It make sense for Rose to tap into Ethan's consciousness, she might even be able to read his memory of horror in the village. That could explain why Rose grows up to respect him so much despite the last time she is with him was when she only 6 months.
@@TheOverlordEND Adding to how the Megamycete is basically just a huge flash drive, it's entirely possible to make an entirely new mold body and inject Ethan's whole memory, personality, and information into said mold body to effectively resurrect him. Though that would need Rose to fully tap into the magic mushroom's power, so the implication of that is still dubious, and even undesirable perhaps. Rose might go on an unholy crusade in the next game to awaken her full host power despite Ethan fighting so hard in RE8 to prevent Miranda from doing it in the first place. Would make a nice plot for the next game with Chris fighting an unknown enemy that would later be revealed to be Rose herself.
He couldn’t be that basic because miranda was screwing his brains out for several weeks & if Chris didn’t shoot her ethan was going to have another happy ending after dinner…
@@xCYKS Duke bails first out of the village after dropping ethan on his way to fought Miranda, when the explosion were over he probably returns to retrieve Ethan back
@@ricegrain1809 the fact that he always helping Ethan in the game makes me thinking about what if the duke has some ability or access to revive someone in the game
I imagined a multipanel meme for when Lady D is chasing him in the dungeon. First panel: Hand on the lever to open the door Caption: *Me finally finding the door to happiness* Second Panel: Hand removed Caption: *Depression and anxiety* xD
Can we like, give ourselves a second and take in the fact that he basically killed Lady D and the others, went through torture and everything, just for his daughter?
*Here, is Rose looking at Ethan as he's walking or does her head never turn like ignoring a stranger on the road side. If she looks, it's a hallucination, if she doesn't then Ethan is back. Maybe it just took him a long time to regenerate and he got wind he's dead and now he's going to check his grave?*
@@thiccusmaximus2515 yea she'll have memory of ethan destroying everyone in third person probably lol Jokes aside, I guess she'll know what he knows because of connected consciousness and stuff, but I don't think she'll know how did he looked like
I was wondering how teenage Rose was still so fond of the father she lost when only an infant. Maybe she's been able to communicate with him the whole time.
I also don't think it's really been 15 years or so since she was a baby. Like Eveline, she probably grows super fast, like being a 20lb, 24inch newborn. So maybe 3-5 years later at this point idk.
@@nlikeflynn8837 Eveline went from kid to old woman in a matter of months tho. Rose would also be an old woman possibly even dead in 3-5 years if she aged like Eveline. She could still be aging fast due to the mold maybe just not as fast as Eveline since Eveline was infected as a baby by mold and not born of mold like Rose is. idk its all very confusing lol, it would make sense for her to age fast tho if they are gonna continue Ethan's family story since they wouldn't have to skip 15 years ahead
It's Ethan without the jacket of all things. So, its after he gave it to baby Rose. They clearly wanted us to know this is Ethan after the explosion. Don't think that's random
Rose says “I can show you things even Chris doesn’t know I can do...” then we see Ethan walking. To me that implies Rose did that. 🤷♂️. We’ll find out in the next one!
i get the feeling that village was implying that the megamycete was sentient the entire time and was using miranda to find a perfect body for it to inhabit, i wouldn't be surprised if bits of the mold that didn't get incinerated in the explosion took ethan's form to trick rose so it can get close to her and take over her body for it's own ends
The megamycete is not evil, its more like a commensalism organism, it does not think, it only lives through others, everyone infected with it have their own free will and they benefit from it (Eveline's mold was not a pure strain and twisted people's personalities).
I think Ethan isn’t done, either some dlc comes out and show him with like some mold powers climbing out of the pit, or He’s in Rose’s mind and is gonna be her conscious or instinct or something along the lines of when Rose is desperate she gets a clementine like thing where she’s in her home and Ethan sits in front of her and gives her one hell of a pep talk.
Honestly what I'm hoping for too, a total johnny silverhand kinda interaction where Ethan pops in at points and gives advice, though the clementine analogy is good too
well actually the only people you see in that part in re7 is jack and zoe and they were both live still at that point. if marguerite came out a talked to ethan than you would have a point but she did not because she was dead
@@Nubby6370 Miranda's plan was to resurrect her daughter Eva, because she found out that Eva though dead her consciousness is preserved inside the Megamycete.
@@InitialPC i did not say that "you can't talk to dead people threw the mold" i just said that there is a possibility that you could not because jack a zoe were the only ones in that scene and they were both still alive
i took what she said to mean once your a part of the mold you a part of the mold alive or dead. as in jack said welcome to the family, i dont think he just meant the bakers. like a hive mind, almost a second reality. i think jack although in the real world was under mind control, in the "mold world" was his normal self. and thats how he talked to ethan. and zoe was infected too. but not sure how it works with the cure? would mia still be attached to that? and also i dont get that if all that is true shouldn't rose be able to talk to all of them? including ethan?
i honestly hope ethan comes back, i feel like the game following someone who started off as just an average guy who was thrown into all of this because of him trying to save his wife is such an enjoyable concept.
I mean it would make sense seeing how Jack Baker survived Eveline's death and Ethan killing him twice. If Jack could do it I see no reason why Ethan couldn't do it too.
@@fandeysy Fair enough. Though this is literally set in a universe where zombies, vampires and massively muscular bioweapons exist. I'm prepared to will my suspension of disbelief.
@@fandeysy I think they could make it believable. They state a couple of times that Rose has complete control over the mold, which is why Miranda wanted her. The megamycete was killed, but Rose still clearly has powers because she threatened the guy picking her up with them... so... I would think that implies that either she is part mold and can manifest things herself, or there is mold somewhere that she can control. Otherwise, if her only ability was control over the mold, which is all we’ve been told about her, she’d have no powers at all if the mold was completely gone and would be a completely normal teenager, which she clearly isn’t. When she confirmed that she knew she was like Ethan, I think it’s because she’s still connected to his consciousness through whatever mold is in her. So putting that together, if A. she is part mold and can manifest things herself, and B. she’s connected to Ethan’s consciousness, I’d find it completely believable that she could create a new body for Ethan’s consciousness to use and connect his consciousness to that body. I honestly expected for something like this to happen when Ethan was holding her as a baby at the end, tbh. If she had such great powers even as a baby, I would think that her overwhelming positive regard for her father could have been enough to heal him if she touched him, even if she was an infant who didn’t know what she was doing. Would have believed that, too.
"I'm afraid you cant return to your old world any longer", the dukes words to Ethan before fighting Miranda, I always wondered what this could mean. Of all the things to say to Ethan, it was never goodbye.
I’m betting that it’s something to do with him (probably) existing within Rose’s mind now!! Like, she’s probs still able to communicate with him albeit not in the physical world?
Nah he can be more badass the dude isn't even specially train and fked up the bakers family and eveline and went through even crazier shit in re8 lol imo he's up there
Pretty sure Rose and Ethan will stay linked together like being able to communicate. Maybe even with Mia and Eveline, would seem logical from what we saw
Maybe rose being a teen is actually ethan’s dream and he wake up just a day after he blow the village up and have a conflict with the BSAA bioweapon after then end up meeting duke and then become RE duo
considering that the mold basically kept the consciousness of its victims within it even without eveline (end of zoe) and that Jack was able to come back albeit in a moldy form after being calcified and disintegrated, i have no doubt that Ethan will at the very least exist in some way
@@nt4696 the only one who was related to miranda was the little girl the bakers found miranda's notes even say she discarded her because she wasnt her daughters true form
@Adolf Hitler I seriously don't understand why people has a username after someone who killed Jewish people, including children. That along with wanting a pure Aryan race of blonde hair and blue eyes. Fucking disgusting.
@@sonnenblumefrau2048 for shit posting and trolling honestly are you living in some fantasy world? Gosh no wonder people think girls are stupid. It’s not that hard to figure out
Did anyone else realize that Evelyn was still alive and Ethan‘s mind at the end because of the fungus. Maybe because of it Ethan in someway is still alive kind of like how Evelyn showed up at the end?
Eveline isn’t alive... They explain the hive mind concept for the mold in the game. Miranda even says the megamycete holds people’s consciousness on record.
I hope ethan does come back, I actually really like Ethan, and I have enjoyed his character throughout both of the games, he is underrated in my opinion
I believe before re village bunch of RE fans not like ethan (not in hate just not as badass MC we know like leon crish ada jill) who hard to kill enemy with knife, really2 need gun the entire run or just run away from monster to save ammo, no combat action like jill have super dodge ability in re 3 remake, leon kick in re 4 and 6. But overall i think i finally meet the MC i loved in RE out of army. Civilians not army who fight with biotech is awesome. Not badass but try hard as possible for life. Trying to save who he loved not duty call to save all city. And father figure in any game just gold to me.
After everything I've seen through the game I think anything and everything that was touched by mold is connected as Miranda stated multiple times. Meaning Rose has access to all of those peoples memories. However clearly daddy was special in that he had his conscious retained almost the entire time compared to most other people going insane like the bakers, so he's probably able to talk to Rose. And honestly I feel like Mia is probably able to do the same. You could even argue that Heisnburg, Miranda, and Dimestrescu could as well since they were high functioning transformations. Just my 2 cents
Theres a part where when Miranda lifts up baby Rose, Miranda says that her powers are leaving her. I took that as Rose naturally sucked her powers being a pure born from the virus.
@@michaeljohnsantos3752 totally agree. At first I thought it was Ethan bc it was right after he got into the area, but then Miranda referred to Rose as Rose and not Eva, so I assumed that the whole ritual failed, and Rose came out herself as well as started taking her power. I bet Ethan couldn't have killed Miranda if Rose wasn't so powerful. What a great tag team!
@@iondis Exactly man! Thank you! Had to read through too many comments before finally found another person who talk about this. When Miranda and Heisenberg called Ethan's body "special" it was not because he was infected with mold but because he manage to hold off the mold infection to enter his brain. Leaving him a molded person with full control of his bodies. Also to point it out, since we know megamycede can save the information of people it came in contact or infected and Rose is possibly the last person with megamycede cell in her, she probably now acting as the megamycede "database" or something like that. Meaning she's super smart like Miranda and high chance she have all the memories of the events that happened in that village.
I mean, the imagery of the Megamycete is "the unborn" so I think the explosion was actually its birth. Rose is the only remaining "part" of it, so it's possible everything encoded into it is now basically haunting her, including Ethan. She goes to the empty grave to talk to him so it doesn't seem suspicious when she is literally talking to him.
It's much better if they'll make a dlc named as "not dead" in which Ethan will be revealed not dead of course. It will be someone who'll play it or maybe Ethan himself.
Also, the fact that the entire epilogue is a real-time rendered cutscene instead of a pre-rendered one, could hint that Capcom want to do something with Rose in Resident Evil IX.
I took that as Ethan's consciousness or at least memories living inside Rose. Rose seems to care deeply for someone a normal baby wouldn't remember. If Rose has all the powers of the Megamycete, then she would have a lot of people's essence living in her including Ethan's.
I thought it was kinda obvious when the Driver said "You're just like your father", and Rose said "Yeah, I know", hinting that she either talks to him, or knows him because of her powers. I really enjoyed the game. Can't wait till the final chapter.
I got a feeling Ethan is alive but he's going to be different come either dlc or the next game. Like he may have evolved into something but is in control of himself, possibly out in the world hunting down anyone who is involved with the fungus and spores and that's what he's been doing during the time skip. But he's so deformed and mutated he can't bring himself to see Mia and Rose. They'll probably have him rearrange his name into Thane so no one will pick up on it, except maybe Chris who will keep it to himself.
@@andys2801 yep, imo the closest we'll gets is share memor flashbacks or whatever because of the whole hivemind thing. If Ethan survived that, might as well call him nemesis 2.0.
If you see the ending its yes its completely herself. More like she got ethan personality, and technicly its not mean ethan do something in rose mind, even eveline not do that to ethan. Its term to biologic thing because she was etham daughter after all. So rose completely her self as more like have ethan personality, and even she's hair colour are blonde like ethan. Thats why the agent said she similar to him alot.
@@legendarycollection7184 Yeah for the most part but there’s still a reference to Miranda at the end with the book. Besides Umbrella thinks Rose is a threat to some degree so there’s something within that that would make me question her control over her consciousness
@@legendarycollection7184 but she wanted to use rose to bring her daughter’s conscience back. That’s something you wouldn’t just see with the naked eye. Plus we don’t know how Eva was as a person so it could lead to plot down the road.
@@daeshonfields1402 i am mentioning again miranda don't want to "control" But try to get back she's daughter. And basicly rose still baby so she can "be" Wathever the parent taugh her. Even rose have all miranda daughter stuff it will be rose, because not in the hell appear a baby with personality already. Parent was the main reason what personality we get. Miranda don't want to control the world, she's just need to have the daughter back. Just that, control her will meaningless since she's said to ehtan "do you know the feel of love for your child, why you not let me have that again" In last boss battle
I really do hope Ethan is alive. He is just such a good character and with his personality he should be seen in the next game. I believe that if rose has powers, and Ethan was made of mold that Rose could bring him back out of mold. It only makes sense because if Ethan was able to put his hand back together, his body can be put together too.
My theory is that Rose essentially took the place of the Megamycete and has a bunch of other memories stored within herself. Hell, she can probably recreate people if given enough biomass.
Their is a line by duke that really made me think in the final area before the boss fight. He says along the lines of "i hope we will meet again someday" has me thinking
It has to be Ethan. There must be a reason why they used his model and not just a generic figure despite the fact that you cant see him in the cutscene. If he can survive what he went through then it wouldn't surprise me if he could come back from being nuked. The Duke must have known he would do that because he would of had to of gotten out the village to avoid the blast.
Alcina thinks Ethan's blood is stale because he's dead, but the daughters like Ethan because they're really bugs and bugs love eating dead bodies.
That makes sense
Oh wow I didn't think of that and that totally makes sense of their dialogues now.
Thnx
"Alcina thinks Ethan's blood is stale because he's dead" Or because he was a little moldy.
Oop, thats accurate
Yea that's true because he died few years back
Ethan: Dies
Duke: Pours alcohol
Ethan: Lives
Its holy water.
@@fitness_ninja5744 goopy juice
Ethan: *dies*
Duke: *pull out gummy vitamins*
Ethan: *revive*
lmaoooooo
Like the achievement says Ethan never dies
You're basically an immortal soldier and everyone wants to use you or base new soldiers off your DNA now that they know you can't die. As that type of being, smartest thing Ethan can do is let everyone think he's dead.
yeah an army Ethan clones naturally resistant to the mold but infected by an E-type would be a pretty effective fighting force.
@@ChristmasCrustacean1 Effective would be a very big understatement if they raise these clones right.
@@Upstartvirus04
"Man literally loves his family too much to die"
He's Gordon Freeman with an actual (barely) personality. I love it. I always loved video game plots that use the main characters inherent invincibility and ridiculous power as a part of the plot as different factions use that to take each other on all the while being picked off one by one. It's so meta and honestly there's not a ton you can do with it but it does so much for the whole power fantasy and let's you both acknowledge it and run with it making you fell like a super hero
Ethan is Big Boss confirmed
Resident Evil 7: Ethan finds his wife Resident Evil 8: Ethan finds his daughter Resident Evil 9: Ethan finds himself
I think it's not that, maybe we might play as Chris Redfield or Rosemary Winters and Mia Winters
Its Hines to be pointed away from Ethan being the main character so most likely it would be rose
Resident Evil X: Ethan finds Tupac
I mean, the fathers story is done so in RE9 it isn't Ethan.
@@sigmatic_cartel7780 what is tupac🤔
The agent guy said "You're a lot like him you know" and her responce was "I know"
I'm bettin' she's already in communication with Ethan's conscience. Arguably every conscience the Megamycete has ever absorbed.
So you mean that ethan live in rose mind like how eveline do to ethan? Well that maybe have a sense to for me because why rose just like soo deep feeling with the father who actually not met yet in live and just knowing the story from mia and cris. Like rose actually trully love ethan as father figure and some reason she's not have that moment in her life. Are we finally will have super biotec as protagonis? It will be oposite to other protagonis like being dark hero? Well in my thinking only hehe.
Or she saw picture of him. Surely mia have photos of him for memories
@@kendernicklas7524
She said she loved him.
She literally never met him.
I thought about that and I like the concept of it
@@prosackmetheus5409 or mia told the story, because hearing such heroic story you gotta admire ur dad (theory so chile). You never know what the game gonna give you, like you though this is a vampire RE but turned out it's all mold
Pretty sure if Rose had poured some med kit juice onto Ethan’s grave he would have been resurrected right there
His body isn't in the grave. They never did find his body.
Chemical fluid man, chemical fluid.
it’s goop juice actually
@@yacker6091 ah yes goop juice
@@wildwyatxbox It disintegrated/crystalized just like all of the other dead molded. He's fucking dead.
Ethan : *awake after his heart stabbed*
Duke : Oh, you're finally awake
wasn't his heart squished?
“Hey you! Finally awake”
it was removed from his chest.
@@averie6564 he got killua'd
Duke : I've heard you try to go across the map to where miranda is
When they say "the father's story is now done" I don't think they mean Ethan as a character I think it's them (a) trying to get you to believe he's dead (b) telling us he's no longer the protagonist and now we're moving on to playing Rose as a teenager
Hopefully....
OR even as an Adult.
Rose might be the new "Jill" to Chris.
@@JohlorBJJ If she is I bet Chris will take more of a behind the scene role. He's gotta be old by the time we play as adult Rose
Meaning maybe Ethan is still alive but his story is over, cuz if Ethan is literally immortal, it would be pathetic to even make him in an RE story, cuz he just cant die,
For a cutscene ending at a distance, they even took the time to make him look at the car where Rose is.
@disempty101 lol
Lalilulelo
More specifically theyre using Ethan's character model before he died, without the jacket
@@eduardochacon1258 the patriots????????
They probably just used the models and made him walk and thats it ,rotating someones face aint that big of a deal
I'm calling it, our pal Duke, found Ethan's body and healed him
Shut it
I don't think he can healed him but yeah he can save the body or the crystaled form
@@albumkosong That is true they saved Zoe.
@Rip Tide me wondering why someone who isnt alive needs a heart.
Duke will do it in any way possible
People say Ethan isn’t a good protagonist, and maybe that’s true, maybe he isn’t the best, but I’ll be damned if I let people say he’s the worst. After playing as him through 7 and 8, I can’t lie, I’m going to miss him.
i will miss him too man
me too man... me too
the way he stood against that megoma whatever monster like a MAN to protect and save his family...
If he doesn't return or atleast appear on resident evil 9 I'll be upset
He is literally my favorite character lol
I think he’s a good protagonist bc of the story behind him
Bruh he is so god damn good
"You're a lot like him, you know?"
"I know"
The megamycete stores "memories" from its hosts. Ethan was a host, and so is Rose. What if a little bit of Ethan still lives within Rose?
This is what I thought. This is also why the one dude called her Eveline, not just because they’re both molded but instead because Eveline lives inside of her to some extent, as do all the other molded since she’s connected to them all
i mean im not sure exactly how rose was concieved, but isnt there a possibility is rose is a new version of the megamycete? because they did destroy the old one with the big explosion
That root was destroyed though.
Ethan was a mushroom that thought and acted like a human. So much so that you could only tell the difference under a microscope.
Y’all really reaching lol
Heisenberg also commented on ethan’s uniqueness. He said “your body certainly is special” over his radio when you’re in his factory.
yea cuz it’s a mold body and it can regenerate
@@ellapyhalto9262 Yeah, but didn’t he crumble to death at the end of the game?
@@grumboflipflorp5688 He crumbled because the ‘host’ of his power was killed off (Miranda).
His wife also said he is special
Check it to RE:7
Ethan got the best character Development from a normal guy trying to find his wife to save his family and going out saving the world
Or fighting some super bio weapon that live 100 years single handlely without plan and he just civilian
Shame the spec ops
@@dahandsomeguywithcoolglass8949 in their defense, ethan are inhuman
@@alfiand9269 AAAAAND he just living mold
Ethan outdone all the main cast of RE. I mean he destroyed the main source of how RE came to be. Miranda was the cause of the formation of umbrella which in turn how re1-6 came to be
@@ej081994 wait what ???
Holy fuck ive become obsessed with Ethans story
S a m e.
Never was expecting to be so attached to a RE character 😂 (I'm not much of an RE fan)
Me as well!
The Ethan Winters trilogy is the resident evil equivalent to the Star Wars: Original Trilogy or Prequels
Me too wtf and I had absolutely no interest to resident evil 😩😩
Ever since Ethan died I've been watching videos to confirm his return
Ethan is alive and he's one of the best characters in the series because he started out as a normal regular guy and just had the guts to go save his family just like a real man would!!
I would say that is cheesy...
But honestly in these times, that actually does need to be preached and praised more often.
Saying “a real man would” is kinda sexist
@@somethingsomethingsomethin9905 wtf? He certainly wouldn't say "a real woman would" because Ethan isn't a woman. Smh.
@@somethingsomethingsomethin9905 go back to Twitter.
Syrus Coy ? You can be a gay/wimpy but still manly as hell bro wth are you talking about? Being manly is all about being a good person, not just some “masculine” shjt. That’s what we call “manly”. Btw, saying sexist garbage from your own selfish POV isn’t manly at all, just saying ;)
Out of all the games, I never did get attached to a main character like a did Ethan, he was a normal dude that kept getting caught up in these crazy scenarios
Yeah same but this hit different lol
Fr I was never a big fan of resident evil until Ethan showed up in resident evil 7. I hope we get more of him
He had heart, that is true. But he was a mong and we all have to agree on that. hahah
hes so normal, that we built this personal connection with him RE7.
Same bro same 🚶🏽♂️☔️
Ethan: **Wakes up to see badass Ada Wong**
Ada Wong: Wake the fuck up Samurai, we've got an evil corporation to destroy
Residentpunk 2027
@@chanyagura146 underrated comment
Pro comment
ada wong good or bad??
@@luviathan9706 neither she’s just there on her own terms
Is it me or did I enjoy the Ethan story a bit too much like I seriously can't get enough of these theories there's no way Capcom put Ethan's model as a coincidence they probably did it for this exact same reason to get people to make theories
You are not Alone me too i'really liké thé story
In b4 it's just in roses head
@@RealCGH It probably is, because, if Rose has the same powers as Eveline, but amplified, then she can very VERY easilly make hallucinations or see them herself.
Maybe Miranda isn't dead or they found out how to use a portion of the mutation of Miranda who can mimicry. So what they might do is that they are using his character model because they are going to have dlc of a continuation of this ending scene being the opening like he said.
@@Yikes200 Miranda and Ethan are both 1000% dead. They literally got turn to dust from the city sized explosion.
So my theory is that its either A. Roze is just hallucinating or B. Roze powers are so great, that he can have a constant manifestation of her father at all times, visible to anyone close to her.
I want Ethan to be alive. Well, so to speak, since I suppose he wasn't technically 'alive' for the entirety of both games. I just got so attached to this 'normal' guy who got dragged into this insanity and did his best to find and keep his family alive. It's honestly admirable that he did so well for himself. And it would just be neat if he managed to survive in some capacity, even as a 'hallucination' of sorts, his consciousness trapped in the megamycete that Rose can communicate with.
This always happens in video games man, I want ethan to be alive too, but I think the devs wanted ethan's saga to end, so they made him kind-of-dead. That's why "the father's story is now done"
In every damn game, the main character last till 1st or 2nd part of the game. That's it.
I got attached to ethan a lot too, i hope they bring him again
I think Ethan is a great character apart from his really stupid moments. I think he has a good character development etc BUT I feel like bringing him back to life after being blown to smithereens would be a bit too much. Even know it was explained for why he can regenerate so much, alot of the fans while playing through the game were a bit like "right...sure video game logic" so to do that again after so many injuries + deaths would be a bit ridiculous. I'm not sure though, It really depends on how they present his return in res9 (if that even happens) You can either present something really well or half ass it so, it just depends on presentation in the next upcoming game.
Honestly if Ethan saga ends have him retire let him at least live a peaceful life
@@crimsonspider8579 ethan is dead its sad he died and he died a hero.
@@mrx-od3ji I doubt it the end credits
a part of Ethan is alive within Rose.
certainly and we know why
Yeah it must be inside rose mind that she can see her father similar to ethan seeing eveline
@@nickjackson3061 but why the jeep stopped
@@CarlosLopez-fi7vd I don't know for sure, at that moment I thought the cut scene stopped
@@CarlosLopez-fi7vd exactly. Also how did Rose have Ethan's jacket if he blew himself up with the megamycete?
Edit: I wasn't paying attention lol
Ethan: awakes and see Ada Wong in front of him.
Leon: You're finally awake.
You were trying to stop the virus right?
Better not let chris see her
Ethan *wakes up*
Leon & Ada : Welcome to the family son
Leon would be in his 80s or 90s because he was 60 re6 which is in 2013 so 2030's he would be fucking old
@@robotpirate8945 do you even know how to do math. How is Leon 60 in RE6?
I figured since the consciousness is connected, the reason Rose feels so strongly about a man she never met, is cuz she has the memories of what Ethan went through to save her.
Solid theory, this would explain the potential hallucinating too.
@@tiaaaron3278 doesnt explain why the car stopped tho
I also have a theory that rose cans still talk to her father since he was all mold, so he's just in the mold now even after death
@@rifarira9160 driver: "Oh look Rose! There's some guy walking on the side of the driveway. Why don't we give him a ride?"
@@rifarira9160 cuz the cutscene ended lol
Plot Twist: Chris tricked Rose into bringing Ethan back to continue the Redfield bloodline
ohhhhhhhhhh shitttrtt
...What????
It all comes full circle.
@@___Artemis___ it's a meme called chrisposting, look it up, it's pretty funny
@@victory8992 the funniest part of the meme is his weird refusal to continue it himself 😂. My favorite are the Jill ones
Nothing mysterious about this, they didn’t pay Ethan his last check, so his zombie corps is just trying to get in touch with H.R.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Best theory
JUST PAY ETHAN HIS DAMN CHECK!!
Yup, canon theory XD
Human Resources works if your *human.*
@@Reoko77 OOF xD
The guy with Rose inside the Jeep said to her "You're like your dad." Rose replied, "I know." That made me think that she and Ethan are secretly seeing each other.
Not a bad catch! I like that
Exactly what I thought! :D
Ethan is dead, She's only the one who sees her father in her thoughts. Heroic father in RE8 will b no sense if he is alive.
@@VideoGameSophistry can you explain what this means?
@@xl5009 that could be true
My theory is, this could just be Rose's first time hallucinating Ethan and simply ordered the driver to stop. Meaning, she can now able to communicate with her dead dad telepathically and could help throughout her adventure.
If she's hallucinating then he wouldn't look the way he does as when he does in the village there is no way she would remember that. Because Ethan's hand is decaying and missing 3 fingers. If she was hallucinating it would be based off pictures she's seen of him
@@n1imnotfaze580 Well if the consciousness thing with the megamycete works how I think it does, the hallucination might be based on how the consciousness was last "recorded" by the megamycete, which would've been Ethan as he was right before the explosion. That's my take on it for why he looks like he did at the end, but maybe they just used him as is just because that was the final state of his character model so who knows?
@Johnny Moon It was just my take on it bud, considering the hands still in the same state which the other person who first brought it up mentioned doesn't make sense since Rose wouldn't have seen him like that. Unless you're trying to say it's a still living Ethan, which we'll only know once we hear from Capcom
how can rose hallucinate his dad when she didn't grow up with him. you can't have a memory of someone if you're just an infant, it will fade it out.
Can she communicates him by looking at his picture so she knows what he looks like?
“Maybe we’ll have Chris shooting Rose in the head at the end of Resident Evil 9.”
Damn the new games just involve Chris killing Ethans entire bloodline because Ethan didn’t fuck Claire.
Chris: "If the Redfield bloodline doesn't continue, then none other will"
You either die a hero or watch yourself become the villain
I don’t get that? I don’t play RE but I see that meme pop up everywhere
Let's be honest that's Leon's fault
@@thatpisshead its called "Chrisposting"
I love how heisenberg mentions chis by calling him a Boulder punching prick lmao, like even in the RE universe everyone knows about his fight with wesker in re5
BSAA member taking the statement of Chris after RE5
BSAA: "You....punched the boulder?"
Chris: "Yes"
BSAA: "Into the lava river.... inside a volcano"?
Chris: "Yes"
BSAA: "The twice your size and several times your weight boulder....into a lava river"
Chris: "......yes"
BSAA: "Yup, this one going viral in my instagram"
I like to think that he’s punched several boulders since arriving in the village
I feel like at this point Boulder Punching is like one of of Chris' core personality traits
Legit chuckled and told my freinds about it as it happened. I like to think they had newspapers saying crazy man punches Boulder or something.
I loved this line so much 🤣 I respect a game franchise that can laugh at itself sometimes
i can't bring myself to believe that ethan is gone forever
FOR REAL! I CRIED WHEN I SAW THE ENDING! #bringethanbackre8
He's supposed to have a 3rd game
@@liamhoney-jones7746 i mean yes its at trilogy but
SAME. I got attached 😭
Now Ethan has 2 possibilities: he is pure consciousness in the my-seed’s storage or his body physically survived ie regenerated. I think the “evidence” points more to the latter though this is RE storytelling so logic isn’t exactly a given. There are 2 ideas. One, what makes more sense; the mega myseed surviving a point blank bomb in the epicenter of the explosion or Ethans mold body having just enough left from being farther away from the explosion to regenerate from? Now the former could be explained away if the myseed has a mycelium network that stretches underground for miles beyond the reach of the explosion but that Sentral heart thing seems pretty important so I think it’s more likely Ethan who was farther away form the epicenter survived in the flesh rather then the myseed which was point blank in the bomb. But again that could be explained away either way. However the second piece of evidence synergies more with Ethan in the flesh as well. When Ethan is in the myseed consciousness world on the brink of death or dead? He has both his hands where when he wakes up back to reality his hands are bandaged up and mutilated again. Ethan in the final shot has the bandaged hand not the intact hands. Unless the myseed conciousnous form of Ethan also would have bandaged hands (makes less sense to me but this is RE) and the evalin dream state was not from the myseed (even though Ethan learned of knowledge impossible/less likely for him to have learned form hallucinating or fever dreams, I am going to believe he is actually alive and the myseed is dead. Though could be retconned either way.
imagine if ethan,chris and leon works together...they will be unstoppable
Leon Ethan and anyone but chris🤣
Chris? Nope. Emotional muscle dude
I think these dumb time skips would make chris like 60? I hate that.
Ah yes, 2 potential heir for Redfield Bloodline.
i love that hiesenburg references chris's boulder punching
The real question is did Ethan clapped Miranda's cheeks while she pretended to be Mia.
No He clapped Mias cheeks Miranda did it a few months later than that
I wont doubt it specially since Miranda havent gotten any action because of her busy life
She probably jumped his pipe(bomb) every time the baby is sleeping
Lml I'm done
This man is going places
I wondered this myself
Resident Evil IX
Chris: Sorry Ethan (pauses to look at him) again...( shoots Rose multiple times.)
Ethan: Wwwwwhhhhhhyyyyyyy.
Redfield lineage must continue xd
Chris would be like 70 years old at that time.
@@Sitthipong26006 not exactly. Because Rose is pretty much a replica of Evelyn, she probably also ages at a faster rate. So the end cutscene is probably only around 10-15 years after the Ethan's death
It’s fucked up but funny at the same time
Lmaoooo
Ethan is too good of a character to just cross out. He should be up the ranks with Chris, Leon and Jill. Especially since RE7 renewed a lot of interest back into the series like his goofy ability to reattach his hands and legs with the juice in the aftershave bottles.
"The father's story is now done."
Ethan is great but he’s not on the same level as those 3 lol
@@NovaShen4 I agree to an extent. Ethan was ment as a Resident Evil character seen from an everyman's pov. A civilian.
After the events of Village, I bet people are going to form more of an attachment to the character, though.
that's not a goofy ability, that's the first stage of mold infection side effect. Super regenerative abilities.
@@NovaShen4 because he beyond that?I dun think those 3 can reattach own leg or hand by using hand sanitizer 😅
The fact that Ethan survived those 3 years and with how resistant the mold is it wouldnt suprise me if Ethan actually survived and needed to enter a hibernation like state until he recovered from all the damage he took in villahe
true man i agree
You have a point...
True since he is fully mold
You have a really good point!!
this comment was typed pretty fast, wasn't it?
This guy Ethan Winters is alive for sure."
The man loves his family so much he's become kinda John Wick
John Wick with the power to shapeshift and regrow from the ground like a mushroom of 'death'.
@@galenjones9529 He can't regrow limbs but can reattach them if they are severed.
Or vin diesel
Ethan is the moldy John Wick
Remember what dom toretto said: family is important
Ethan can actually be alive
Reason 1: He's made out of mold so he can probably Regenarate or Manipulate other molds to fix his own body.
Reason 2: Duke is actually the 5th Lord and nobody know's his ability so he possibly saved Ethan. Btw, Duke represents the "Owl".
Yea, maybe duke has some kind of transportation skill, since he appears in all kinds of weird places
Imagine Ethan coming back as a merchant NPC
@@IsTheOrderASapling Ngl I would be happy to see him alive but disappointed to see that that’s how they use him.
The owl? Could you elaborate on that? I’m curious
@@airyangelic852 in the ending when Ethan is in the Duke’s carriage after getting his heart ripped out the rug on the floor is the dukes symbol, (aka the owl) is his insignia as the fifth lord.
Ethan wakes up
Leon & Ada : Welcome to the family son
Ethan wakes up
Leon & Ada : Welcome to the family son
*Chris wakes up screaming* "oh what a nightmare"
@@S200. Chris: *proceeds to call Leon and ask when he will continue the Redfield bloodline for the thousandth time*
Avenged Sevenfold playing in the background.
Plot twist :this is Chris dream
“I can do things even Chris doesn’t know about” LIKE REVIVE YOUR DEAD FATHER, PERHAPS???
Nope,
she can simultaneously whip and nae nae. Alright, off to hang myself!
@@justyouraveragehumanbeing7411 LMFAO U MADE ME SPIT MY DRINK
@@justyouraveragehumanbeing7411 IMPOSSIBLE
@Kepler 186-F yeaaaa had to buy an entirely new keyboard cuz the drink ruined it
Chris Redfield: *"so you're telling me there's a chance"*
YOU MUST CONTINUE THE BLOODLINE ETHAN
@Gnome Enjoyer Chris is apparently mid 40s so I assume Claire wouldn’t be far off that
@@boothuu b r u h
I think her line of: "I can show you things Chris isn't even aware of that I can do" means she can revive people. It's not based on anything, but maybe she can pull people from the megamycete, and use her powers to give them a body from the mold. maybe this means she wants to get away from the organisation, and Ethan going to help her.
Just a wild theory
and it might be possible that Mother Miranda wanted to bring her child back using Rose’s power.
@Natural Light rose was the perfect vessel that's why she wanted rose
If she was giving him a body why would she fuck up his hands again just a thought
@@memike2851 oh, so she just wanted to put her daughter’s spirit inside of Rose?
@@Lightnatural basically
Ethan is accidentally the most prototype monster ever created but monster with heart and love
Edit : holy smoke i never get these likes before thank you guys
without actual heart
"We created the ultimate weapon!"
"What? How?!?!"
"All we needed to do was make a loving father immortal and then steal his daughter!"
"Wait... so you created the ultimate weapon... and pointed it at us?"
"YES! I'm making the founders of Umbrella so proud right now!"
I hope Ethan becomes a nicer Wesker. Like he would be somehow linked with everything but he isn't a villain.
Yo I thought the same thing
@@skradadoodle he can just regenerate a heart?
I think it would be interesting if Rose took on the anti heroine approach to bring Ethan back. Maybe through the hallucinations, Ethan tries to talk his daughter out of walking down a dangerous path she'll regret. They've already established that the two have a deep connection (even though Rose grew up without him physically there). I'd be down with it.
Viruses in Resident evil is at the realm of being supernatural at this point. So it is plausible that Ethan might be able to be with Rose consciously considering they are related and Evelyn/Baker family talked to Ethan the same way.
My only issue is that Capcom has a bunch of explaining to do to reason why Bio weapon Viruses across the world haven’t been clamped and shut down by United Nations, the fact that the BSAA has now been doing their own experiments without government oversight or whistleblowers from the staff sounds like horseshit. World building is pretty much fucked.
@@talicgodfrey6560 To me, I've looked at 7, and now 8, as companions to the series rather than continuations. I know they're not but that's just how I view them lore wise. I didn't really understand why they just pushed the events of 7 underneath a rug. Like, it's mentioned that it was covered up by a gas leak but...come on...I know us Louisianians are crazy but we're not THAT crazy. It would be questioned. Hell, we'd probably get a lead on all this before the Saints game starts. We'd even question why the Bakers were so hostile. (I have dumb issues with 7 on that part. The accents as an example.)
I can understand your point as well. I can see where they're trying to take it but I feel like they need to do some extra explaining, or I'm just missing out on some lore-which could be possible. (I enjoy RE but I'm not the type to know every tiny bit of lore there is. I don't have the time, haha.) I think it would be interesting if they did a prequel DLC or something, setting up Miranda as 8's villain and how this big..."megablob" essentially sets up everything. Or that might be what 9 will be about? It's RE so who knows, really?
@@ashtoneva4926 We just have to see what DLC will come out. I’m expecting to see Chris’s trip to Europe for BSAA HQ since that was mentioned at the end, best thing I could see is getting information on workers who happen to be former researchers of Umbrella exchanging hands with higher officials in that site, corruption etc.
Exactly, Miranda and Eveline has proven that those who got infected are connected to one another, yes the Megamycete is gone but Rose still exists and has her mold power.
It could be said that Rose has become the second databank for Megamycete's record as the first and main got destroyed by Ethan. It make sense for Rose to tap into Ethan's consciousness, she might even be able to read his memory of horror in the village. That could explain why Rose grows up to respect him so much despite the last time she is with him was when she only 6 months.
@@TheOverlordEND Adding to how the Megamycete is basically just a huge flash drive, it's entirely possible to make an entirely new mold body and inject Ethan's whole memory, personality, and information into said mold body to effectively resurrect him. Though that would need Rose to fully tap into the magic mushroom's power, so the implication of that is still dubious, and even undesirable perhaps. Rose might go on an unholy crusade in the next game to awaken her full host power despite Ethan fighting so hard in RE8 to prevent Miranda from doing it in the first place. Would make a nice plot for the next game with Chris fighting an unknown enemy that would later be revealed to be Rose herself.
Really hope he comes back, lot of people say he’s too basic but I love him as a character
He couldn’t be that basic because miranda was screwing his brains out for several weeks & if Chris didn’t shoot her ethan was going to have another happy ending after dinner…
Also I m
Well, probably The Duke save Ethan's body part and then revive him.
The Duke still alive after the explosion?
@@xCYKS Duke bails first out of the village after dropping ethan on his way to fought Miranda, when the explosion were over he probably returns to retrieve Ethan back
I've always asked myself where Duke was during the explosion, I wonder where he is. Maybe the upcoming DLC will tell us if it were to be announced
@@raidennaz1590 i think duke is still alive because of his teleport ability lol
@@ricegrain1809 the fact that he always helping Ethan in the game makes me thinking about what if the duke has some ability or access to revive someone in the game
I hope Ethan loosing his hands becomes a meme as widespread as Chris punching that boulder.
I imagined a multipanel meme for when Lady D is chasing him in the dungeon.
First panel: Hand on the lever to open the door
Caption: *Me finally finding the door to happiness*
Second Panel: Hand removed
Caption: *Depression and anxiety*
xD
Oh it has lol
Heisenberg even says "I'm gonna kill that Boulder punching bastard" or something like that when speaking about Chris
"always has been"
On Ifunny it has with several memes of just Ethan losing his hands my favorite is grunkle Stan giving the middle finger if he had his hands
Can we like, give ourselves a second and take in the fact that he basically killed Lady D and the others, went through torture and everything, just for his daughter?
Like any good father would.
Of course he did!
That's what Father's and Mother's do when something/someone takes their child.
Like the Silent Hill protag
He did the same in 7
Because family
*Here, is Rose looking at Ethan as he's walking or does her head never turn like ignoring a stranger on the road side. If she looks, it's a hallucination, if she doesn't then Ethan is back. Maybe it just took him a long time to regenerate and he got wind he's dead and now he's going to check his grave?*
Rose was a baby when she saw Ethan so I don't think rose would know what he would look like unless Mia has pictures of him.
@@nathenb9849 Rose had connections to the Megamycete. She probably has knowledge and memories of everyone who was connected to it.
But the car stops mhhhhhh🤔
@@thiccusmaximus2515 I guess your right I didn't think about that
@@thiccusmaximus2515 yea she'll have memory of ethan destroying everyone in third person probably lol
Jokes aside, I guess she'll know what he knows because of connected consciousness and stuff, but I don't think she'll know how did he looked like
I was wondering how teenage Rose was still so fond of the father she lost when only an infant. Maybe she's been able to communicate with him the whole time.
maybe she rembers what happen that day it possible but im probable rong
She’s got his memories and can still communicate with him through the mold
Well she still has her mom so I'd assume mia would tell stories about Ethan's sacrifices to rose
I also don't think it's really been 15 years or so since she was a baby. Like Eveline, she probably grows super fast, like being a 20lb, 24inch newborn. So maybe 3-5 years later at this point idk.
@@nlikeflynn8837 Eveline went from kid to old woman in a matter of months tho. Rose would also be an old woman possibly even dead in 3-5 years if she aged like Eveline. She could still be aging fast due to the mold maybe just not as fast as Eveline since Eveline was infected as a baby by mold and not born of mold like Rose is. idk its all very confusing lol, it would make sense for her to age fast tho if they are gonna continue Ethan's family story since they wouldn't have to skip 15 years ahead
That awkward possibility where they just picked a random model and we are just seeing a random dude walk to the cemetery Rose was just in
Look at his hand it looks like a Connected pieces together With some small missing parts!
They wouldn't do that... Normally
It's Ethan without the jacket of all things. So, its after he gave it to baby Rose. They clearly wanted us to know this is Ethan after the explosion. Don't think that's random
chill, hes done no harm. hes just stating a possibility that is highly likely if capcom really did not care about the plot and just want to troll us.
You are right my friend! Just a random model
They lingered on that scene far too long for it to be an easter-egg
Rose says “I can show you things even Chris doesn’t know I can do...” then we see Ethan walking. To me that implies Rose did that. 🤷♂️. We’ll find out in the next one!
Not really, because we weren't even supposed to see him unless you clip out. She didn't know he had missing fingers
i get the feeling that village was implying that the megamycete was sentient the entire time and was using miranda to find a perfect body for it to inhabit, i wouldn't be surprised if bits of the mold that didn't get incinerated in the explosion took ethan's form to trick rose so it can get close to her and take over her body for it's own ends
The megamycete is not evil, its more like a commensalism organism, it does not think, it only lives through others, everyone infected with it have their own free will and they benefit from it (Eveline's mold was not a pure strain and twisted people's personalities).
I think Ethan isn’t done, either some dlc comes out and show him with like some mold powers climbing out of the pit, or He’s in Rose’s mind and is gonna be her conscious or instinct or something along the lines of when Rose is desperate she gets a clementine like thing where she’s in her home and Ethan sits in front of her and gives her one hell of a pep talk.
Honestly what I'm hoping for too, a total johnny silverhand kinda interaction where Ethan pops in at points and gives advice, though the clementine analogy is good too
So kinda like booker in the that bioshock infinate dlc. Where the booker in that is more of a figment fallowing evelin talking to her.
Since the driver is the agent, her hallucination can't be true because the driver stopped the car when Ethan came, which mean he also saw Ethan
@@neow6289 true but it could just be animation stuff like leaving it there making it look like it’s continuing to drive while Ethan keeps walking
It actually make sense how Ethan was able to talk with Jack after his death
well actually the only people you see in that part in re7 is jack and zoe and they were both live still at that point. if marguerite came out a talked to ethan than you would have a point but she did not because she was dead
@@Nubby6370 Miranda's plan was to resurrect her daughter Eva, because she found out that Eva though dead her consciousness is preserved inside the Megamycete.
@@InitialPC i did not say that "you can't talk to dead people threw the mold" i just said that there is a possibility that you could not because jack a zoe were the only ones in that scene and they were both still alive
i took what she said to mean once your a part of the mold you a part of the mold alive or dead. as in jack said welcome to the family, i dont think he just meant the bakers.
like a hive mind, almost a second reality. i think jack although in the real world was under mind control, in the "mold world" was his normal self. and thats how he talked to ethan. and zoe was infected too.
but not sure how it works with the cure? would mia still be attached to that? and also i dont get that if all that is true shouldn't rose be able to talk to all of them? including ethan?
i honestly hope ethan comes back, i feel like the game following someone who started off as just an average guy who was thrown into all of this because of him trying to save his wife is such an enjoyable concept.
I mean it would make sense seeing how Jack Baker survived Eveline's death and Ethan killing him twice. If Jack could do it I see no reason why Ethan couldn't do it too.
Because the megamicyte was still undiscovered, that's why Ethan starts to dicompose after killing Miranda
@@fandeysy Fair enough. Though this is literally set in a universe where zombies, vampires and massively muscular bioweapons exist. I'm prepared to will my suspension of disbelief.
Well plus like jack got shot, cut, burned a bunch, and eventually power fisted. Ethan got like fuckin nuked so idk man
@@Brainflayer true, i would also like to see Ethan again, I'm just curious about how they can pull it off and manage it to make it believable
@@fandeysy I think they could make it believable. They state a couple of times that Rose has complete control over the mold, which is why Miranda wanted her. The megamycete was killed, but Rose still clearly has powers because she threatened the guy picking her up with them... so... I would think that implies that either she is part mold and can manifest things herself, or there is mold somewhere that she can control. Otherwise, if her only ability was control over the mold, which is all we’ve been told about her, she’d have no powers at all if the mold was completely gone and would be a completely normal teenager, which she clearly isn’t.
When she confirmed that she knew she was like Ethan, I think it’s because she’s still connected to his consciousness through whatever mold is in her. So putting that together, if A. she is part mold and can manifest things herself, and B. she’s connected to Ethan’s consciousness, I’d find it completely believable that she could create a new body for Ethan’s consciousness to use and connect his consciousness to that body.
I honestly expected for something like this to happen when Ethan was holding her as a baby at the end, tbh. If she had such great powers even as a baby, I would think that her overwhelming positive regard for her father could have been enough to heal him if she touched him, even if she was an infant who didn’t know what she was doing. Would have believed that, too.
It wouldn’t surprise me if Ethan was still alive. Duke clearly has a much bigger story arc & I think Ethan plays a big part in it.
Duke is a character created by rose’s subconscious to aid ethan? Maybe?
"I'm afraid you cant return to your old world any longer", the dukes words to Ethan before fighting Miranda, I always wondered what this could mean. Of all the things to say to Ethan, it was never goodbye.
I’m betting that it’s something to do with him (probably) existing within Rose’s mind now!! Like, she’s probs still able to communicate with him albeit not in the physical world?
No he says goodbye lol
*”The Father’s Story is not done.”*
Now*, no not
@@iamoons2295 he meant to say "not" probably because Zoomie thinks Ethan is still alive
@@iamoons2295 Thank you, we totally didn't knew that 🙂
Capcom: The father's story is don-
Ethan: *Uno reverse card*
dude, imagine if that was what it said at the end of the game.
Imagine in Next RE Ethan just: "KNOCK KNOCK DADDY IS HERE!!"
Hope we may get it...
Yo ethan you got the MILK!
Bro that is reminding me of re7🤣😂
Thank god for Ethan for making Rose because we have Rule 34
Edit: I'm not OK with this joke
@@Ovegain SHE DOEST BELONGS THERES! I FAILED TO PROTECT ONCE THESE TIME I WONT
Ethan may not be badass like other RE characters but he is the best father in the RE universe
Well actually he is first protagonis RE as father figure
Nah he can be more badass the dude isn't even specially train and fked up the bakers family and eveline and went through even crazier shit in re8 lol imo he's up there
After all, the other major character who IS a father is Wesker. So that's not saying much ahahah
@@syunafrost351 well chris can punch zombies and FUCKING BOULDERS into the stratosphere, and doesn't have to be a moldy mf for that
@@justyouraveragehumanbeing7411 Joe Baker: Ya miss a hillbilly
Pretty sure Rose and Ethan will stay linked together like being able to communicate. Maybe even with Mia and Eveline, would seem logical from what we saw
Here’s hoping that Ethan one day gets to meet Rosemarie and feel proud of her.
Maybe rose being a teen is actually ethan’s dream and he wake up just a day after he blow the village up and have a conflict with the BSAA bioweapon after then end up meeting duke and then become RE duo
considering that the mold basically kept the consciousness of its victims within it even without eveline (end of zoe) and that Jack was able to come back albeit in a moldy form after being calcified and disintegrated, i have no doubt that Ethan will at the very least exist in some way
I think the Bakers are related to Miranda so they didn't die and Ethan died when Miranda died
@@nt4696 That doesn't make sense at all, have you played their back stories?
@@nt4696 the only one who was related to miranda was the little girl the bakers found miranda's notes even say she discarded her because she wasnt her daughters true form
@@nt4696 In this case the rose should have been too
Of course Ethan is alive….I mean Miranda ripped out his heart and came back alive lol so why not a big ass explosion as well? Lmaaaaao
Maybe because it could vaporize him entirely?
He was at ground zero. There's no way there would be anything left of him.
@Adolf Hitler I seriously don't understand why people has a username after someone who killed Jewish people, including children. That along with wanting a pure Aryan race of blonde hair and blue eyes.
Fucking disgusting.
@@sonnenblumefrau2048 Go back to Twatter...
@@sonnenblumefrau2048 for shit posting and trolling honestly are you living in some fantasy world? Gosh no wonder people think girls are stupid. It’s not that hard to figure out
Did anyone else realize that Evelyn was still alive and Ethan‘s mind at the end because of the fungus. Maybe because of it Ethan in someway is still alive kind of like how Evelyn showed up at the end?
Eveline isn’t alive... They explain the hive mind concept for the mold in the game. Miranda even says the megamycete holds people’s consciousness on record.
I hope ethan does come back, I actually really like Ethan, and I have enjoyed his character throughout both of the games, he is underrated in my opinion
Agreed
I believe before re village bunch of RE fans not like ethan (not in hate just not as badass MC we know like leon crish ada jill) who hard to kill enemy with knife, really2 need gun the entire run or just run away from monster to save ammo, no combat action like jill have super dodge ability in re 3 remake, leon kick in re 4 and 6. But overall i think i finally meet the MC i loved in RE out of army.
Civilians not army who fight with biotech is awesome. Not badass but try hard as possible for life. Trying to save who he loved not duty call to save all city. And father figure in any game just gold to me.
I mean, at the end of the re8, it says the dads story has ended, so maybe he might do a cameo?
That's what I'm thinking
1:32 They're looking at each other so this is a canon twist
Without the kacket too!
He should've got a face reveal at the end though I mean they have the face fully modeled why not show it smh
Basically to be cool mysterious and edgy
Because my moldy boi will be back
We see his face clearly towards the end of Resident Evil 7 when you return to the Guest House
Saving it for a dlc that's probably already being made
Because he is a "Faceless Hero"
I feel like Ethan will return somehow he was a good character and he went through so much just to save his daughter
Indeed
That's crazy Ethan the only person that got mold powers and stayed sane I'm just pissed they always tryna take his family
After everything I've seen through the game I think anything and everything that was touched by mold is connected as Miranda stated multiple times. Meaning Rose has access to all of those peoples memories.
However clearly daddy was special in that he had his conscious retained almost the entire time compared to most other people going insane like the bakers, so he's probably able to talk to Rose. And honestly I feel like Mia is probably able to do the same.
You could even argue that Heisnburg, Miranda, and Dimestrescu could as well since they were high functioning transformations.
Just my 2 cents
Miranda did state out loud of Ethan becoming part of the Megamycetes records.
@@silverhawkscape2677 what does that mean
Theres a part where when Miranda lifts up baby Rose, Miranda says that her powers are leaving her.
I took that as Rose naturally sucked her powers being a pure born from the virus.
@@michaeljohnsantos3752 totally agree. At first I thought it was Ethan bc it was right after he got into the area, but then Miranda referred to Rose as Rose and not Eva, so I assumed that the whole ritual failed, and Rose came out herself as well as started taking her power.
I bet Ethan couldn't have killed Miranda if Rose wasn't so powerful. What a great tag team!
@@iondis Exactly man! Thank you! Had to read through too many comments before finally found another person who talk about this. When Miranda and Heisenberg called Ethan's body "special" it was not because he was infected with mold but because he manage to hold off the mold infection to enter his brain. Leaving him a molded person with full control of his bodies.
Also to point it out, since we know megamycede can save the information of people it came in contact or infected and Rose is possibly the last person with megamycede cell in her, she probably now acting as the megamycede "database" or something like that. Meaning she's super smart like Miranda and high chance she have all the memories of the events that happened in that village.
I'm not even surprised Duke chariot rushing to Ethan in the last second, take him and elegantly ciao from the village
I mean, the imagery of the Megamycete is "the unborn" so I think the explosion was actually its birth. Rose is the only remaining "part" of it, so it's possible everything encoded into it is now basically haunting her, including Ethan. She goes to the empty grave to talk to him so it doesn't seem suspicious when she is literally talking to him.
It's much better if they'll make a dlc named as "not dead" in which Ethan will be revealed not dead of course.
It will be someone who'll play it or maybe Ethan himself.
doubt we will ever see him phisically alive
Nah its called Ethan can't die
They'll probably planning on making a dlc where mia tries to escape the castle, because sometimes dlc stands around the main map
Not in a dlc i want Ethan to show up in future games
@@serpent7553 the castle is destroyed tho
Also, the fact that the entire epilogue is a real-time rendered cutscene instead of a pre-rendered one, could hint that Capcom want to do something with Rose in Resident Evil IX.
I took that as Ethan's consciousness or at least memories living inside Rose. Rose seems to care deeply for someone a normal baby wouldn't remember. If Rose has all the powers of the Megamycete, then she would have a lot of people's essence living in her including Ethan's.
I mean Ethan did tell Zoe that he keeps his promises at the end of the dlc for re7, he also promised he’d never abandon his family.....
Doctors: " Congratulations Mr. Ethan we finally saved your life. You were almost dead. "
Ethan: "WWWWWWHHHHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY"
Chris (enters the room): Because Redfield lineage must continue!
😂😂😂
Rose (Enters Room):
dAdEY?
Duke (enters the room) you finally awake
Consciousness of Eveline (enters the room): Hey goofy bitches
I really do hope that we see Ethan Winters in the next game, even if just briefly through the consciousness of the mold or something.
Me seeing the title :
*please.. don't give me hope*
Hes still alive maybe his body got separated but he can regen his body back if duke re attached him Imao
I thought it was kinda obvious when the Driver said "You're just like your father", and Rose said "Yeah, I know", hinting that she either talks to him, or knows him because of her powers. I really enjoyed the game. Can't wait till the final chapter.
i want more about the duke, he is such a mysterious character
What if in an alternate universe rose is the duke somehow someway lol
Ethan, to the Duke: Who... _what_ are you?
Duke: Even _I_ can’t quite answer that!
@@MemesToa Duke: The devs haven't thought that far ahead.
Well he probably died in the explosion with Ethan. I didn’t think about it until dashie pointed it out in his gameplay
@@dimorphius9616 damm
If the guy walking didn’t have a face I would be 100% sure it was him
i got so sad when ethan died. idk why but i was so in love with his character
I got a feeling Ethan is alive but he's going to be different come either dlc or the next game. Like he may have evolved into something but is in control of himself, possibly out in the world hunting down anyone who is involved with the fungus and spores and that's what he's been doing during the time skip. But he's so deformed and mutated he can't bring himself to see Mia and Rose. They'll probably have him rearrange his name into Thane so no one will pick up on it, except maybe Chris who will keep it to himself.
he might be the next villain tho-
I got really attached to Ethan Winters. I don't want him to be dead...
“The Father’s story is now done.”
@@andys2801 😭😭😭
@@andys2801 yep, imo the closest we'll gets is share memor flashbacks or whatever because of the whole hivemind thing. If Ethan survived that, might as well call him nemesis 2.0.
1:20
Ethan Winters be like: Ah shit, here we go again.
The next question is this: Is Rose completely herself even after she's gone through all that or has Miranda partially succeeded?
If you see the ending its yes its completely herself.
More like she got ethan personality, and technicly its not mean ethan do something in rose mind, even eveline not do that to ethan. Its term to biologic thing because she was etham daughter after all. So rose completely her self as more like have ethan personality, and even she's hair colour are blonde like ethan. Thats why the agent said she similar to him alot.
@@legendarycollection7184 Yeah for the most part but there’s still a reference to Miranda at the end with the book. Besides Umbrella thinks Rose is a threat to some degree so there’s something within that that would make me question her control over her consciousness
@@daeshonfields1402 miranda want her daughter not controlller her
@@legendarycollection7184 but she wanted to use rose to bring her daughter’s conscience back. That’s something you wouldn’t just see with the naked eye. Plus we don’t know how Eva was as a person so it could lead to plot down the road.
@@daeshonfields1402 i am mentioning again miranda don't want to "control" But try to get back she's daughter.
And basicly rose still baby so she can "be" Wathever the parent taugh her. Even rose have all miranda daughter stuff it will be rose, because not in the hell appear a baby with personality already. Parent was the main reason what personality we get.
Miranda don't want to control the world, she's just need to have the daughter back. Just that, control her will meaningless since she's said to ehtan "do you know the feel of love for your child, why you not let me have that again" In last boss battle
I really do hope Ethan is alive. He is just such a good character and with his personality he should be seen in the next game. I believe that if rose has powers, and Ethan was made of mold that Rose could bring him back out of mold. It only makes sense because if Ethan was able to put his hand back together, his body can be put together too.
Maybe Ethan can communicate to rose and mia as they are infected with mold just like bakers did in re7 just like Eveline did in re8
Thats interesthing
@@ry.yutazika_7742 it's interesting
My theory is that Rose essentially took the place of the Megamycete and has a bunch of other memories stored within herself. Hell, she can probably recreate people if given enough biomass.
Their is a line by duke that really made me think in the final area before the boss fight. He says along the lines of "i hope we will meet again someday" has me thinking
I really wanna see a Winters trilogy, the next game should be about rose taking revenge on the people that broke her family
Imagine the devs did this just for us to think Ethan would come back
yes
I swear to god if the devs say “it’s not Ethan” Imma end the world
It has to be Ethan. There must be a reason why they used his model and not just a generic figure despite the fact that you cant see him in the cutscene. If he can survive what he went through then it wouldn't surprise me if he could come back from being nuked. The Duke must have known he would do that because he would of had to of gotten out the village to avoid the blast.
rip capcom
my mother miranda arc will begin.
I feel like the next game will have Rose talking to Ethan throughout the game similar to Link and Midna from twilight princess.