DELTA ONE A330-300 on their Strange Transatlantic Route
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- Опубликовано: 8 июн 2024
- Welcome on board Delta Air Lines' A330-300 which is home to their older Business Class product. While Delta's services are consistent across their products, the seats are of an older style. The surprising thing is the amount of variation across the different "Delta One" suites they offer if you look at the products across their A330, A350, 767, etc.
Let me know your thoughts on this Delta One product and this sole transoceanic flight out of Portland!
0:00 Intro
0:20 Arriving PDX
1:39 PDX D/E Gates
4:42 Delta Sky Club
8:32 PDX Int'l Concourse
9:48 Boarding
11:07 Seat/Amenities
15:33 Takeoff PDX
16:59 IFE
18:19 Dinner Service
20:44 Breakfast Service
22:09 Arrival AMS
24:41 AMS Terminal
My Son flies the newer A330 out of SEA for Delta. He loves flying the International routes. He’s only 33, was a Captain at SkyWest and now an FO for Delta. So proud of him!🔺👨✈️✈️
Awesome!
But wouldn't being captain be better?
He is living my dream I’m 37 and have always dreamed wanted to be a pilot but I pushed it off because of the costs and fear of it not working out
This is easily one of the best flight preview videos we have seen. Thank you for the detailed narration, varied shots and very good editing. Thank you!
Thanks a ton!
My personal favorite international airport is Schiphol. I was on the staff of a conference in Amsterdam years ago and met all the inbound arrivals every day. Its like a city in there with sooooo many eating options and even a supermarket. If there was a break on arrivals , I would grab some grub and head down to the train platforms to watch the action there.
The single seat with the curtain is likely used as a rest seat for a pilot during their breaks, when they operate with three pilots on very long routes. On a shorter route it may not be needed for this purpose.
Probably a good thought. On 2 10-hour flights I’ve seen a paying customer in the seat, so if that’s true, I’d be curious what the threshold is
@@PatrickSheaAviation not sure, as I haven't had the chance to be close to that particular seat so far.
But from what I heard, relief pilots are a common thing - but when they are required probably depends on the airline policy and the laws of the airline's country.
On AA, I happened to be stuck behind a row of seats designated as crew rest for the cabin crew. After takeoff, a flight attendant setup the curtain and slammed the seats all the way back. When I politely asked her whether she can put the seats upright as long as they are empty, understanding that a crew member may want to recline when they actually take a rest, she yelled at me "It is a crew rest and it has to be this way!". Long story short - nobody used it the entire flight, I was squeezed in a row that was too tight in the first place. Needless to say that this was my last flight on AA.
To add insult to injury, we had paid for extra legroom seating, but after three aircraft changes within an hour before scheduled departure, we ended up somewhere else - even though it was the same type as originally planned. And of course we didn't get the money for the better seats back either. I never had those issues on Delta, which is why they are my preferred carrier to the US.
@@PatrickSheaAviation By the way, since Delta One seats now show up on the seat map for my next flight (Delta tries to bait me into spending more money for an upgrade), i noticed that on the return DTW-FRA flight (just 8 hours through the night) that particular seat is marked as not available. (Which is no big deal given that there are just 10 seats booked in total on that plane)
@@Colaholiker hmm that is interesting
It's definitely a crew rest seat. On my 9 hour flight home from Hawaii, my wife and I were upgraded to Delta One. The only seats left were infront and behind seat 5A. Gate agent said it's a crew rest seat so they couldn't put us closer. I didn't realize why it mattered if they sat in seat 4A or 6A until we boarded and it was the only seat with the curtain. Throughout the flight, 3 different pilots used it. The only time it wasn't occupied was take-off and landing. Conversely, on our flight to Hawaii, we weren't upgraded but I noticed 5A on the seating chart had an X but was vacant once we boarded and throughout the flight. I was disappointed they didn't fill the seat (I was first for the upgrade), but now I know it's the crew seat. If you notice on these longer flights, certain seats have an X without showing a person. If it's a 6 row Delta One cabin it'll be 5A, 9 row it's 1A. That's the crew rest seat with curtain. The X on a seat can also mean other things but that's what it means for these seats typically.
I love this video!! Thank you for such in depth description of your travel. Now I'm subscribing!
Thanks!
Thank you for the only and AMAZING review of this Delta product! I have looked and looked and there are no other delta one a330 reviews or Pdx to amsterdam reviews. I just found this video and this is so good! Next time you should take British Airways world traveller business class to lhr! About a month ago they started using there 777s on this route too! But seriously thanks for this video!
British Airways business class is a definite bucket list of mine due to the mixed reviews over time. Maybe I will get back to PDX for that
Excellent review 👏🏻 I’m online right now trying to pick a Delta One seat on this Airbus 😁 I look forward to watching your other videos!
This was very detailed, excellent video.
Thanks!
Me and my wife are splurging for Delta One to Austria soon. Our first vacation in 10 years. This video helped me choose over other airlines. We enjoyed the setup of this staggered herringbone type seat arrangement.
I’ll have to look at your videos to see if you have flight breakdowns for Brazil and Japan.
Thanks again for your video!
Awesome! Safe travels! I do have some stuff from Brazil and Japan, but not with Delta
I like your style.Good work on this
Thank you!!!
Thanks for this! I have a long haul trip to Paris coming up and my plane got changed from the Neo to the 300. Sucks I can’t be in a suite but glad to see what I’m getting into via this review
Enjoy Paris. My family and I just got back 3 weeks ago. It was chilly then. We flew on United Polaris Business class
So the flight is dubbed the "Nike Express" since Nike's world headquarters is just outside Portland and its European headquarters is just outside Amsterdam.
Also thank you so much for the thorough and fantastic review. I'm definitely the type who likes to know what to expect on a flight beforehand. :)
Interesting! Thanks!
I remember when Delta briefly had a mini asian hub at PDX (in the late 1980's). Delta diverted many SEA flights to PDX. During this time, Northwest Airlines had an extensive asian network at SEA. I miss Northwest Airlines.
North Worst
@@Hoovie9596you are correct on that one. By comparing Northwest Airlines versions of A330-300 A330-200 B747-400 to a Korean Air version of the same plane you would find out that the Korean Air version has the better product over the Northwest Airlines version. In my case I would take the South Koreans Hong kongers Japanese Singaporeans Thai and Taiwanese over my own flag carrier version of the same plane when applicable to do so
That curtain around the other seat was for crew rest because on some longer flights the crew trade off sleeping in there
11:01 The seat with the curtain is usually a rest area for the crew members. Sometimes they use this for a "dead head" --- e.g. a Pilot that is needed at the destination (or layover) airport.
Those lounge and inflight meals were m-m-good!
- Red
I was a big fan of the inflight meals on this flight for sure!
Like Business Class much better on A330-900 NEO.Great work
Agreed! But a lie flat seat is a lie flat seat!
Greetings from Seattle airport. Today, were about to board Delta, Airbus A330-300 (N812NW) to Honolulu on a 6 hour medium haul trans pacific flight to Hawaii in economy class, departing at 4pm. It's a full flight. Wish me a safe flight to Honolulu.
I arrive in Honolulu 1 hour ago on Delta, Airbus A330-300 (N812NW) on a full flight from Seattle and the flight is good and okay, 5 and. a half hour, the in flight entertainment TV is responsive to my finger, but it's quite slow and crash for 5 to 10 minutes, before reboot the TV and it's back to normal.
The sky club was nice and better than what we have here in Birmingham, AL. We have not had a sky club in 25 years. I don't think delta has a Delta One Business Class lounge even in Atlanta. What I was happy to here was that with a Delta One, you did get access to the Sky Club. Just a place to take up some time with Wi-Fi. Thank you for the video. My main reason for waiting it was to see the seats in Delta one for a A330-300. Thank you again.
I do wish they had a specific lounge for Delta One (similar to United Polaris Lounge). I feel like Delta could do a great job with that
The are opening DL One Lounges in at JFK and LAX next year. They are not that concerned so much about ATL since they are so dominate there. DL lounges can actually be very annoying now since often way overcrowded since so many get access via being a Diamond or all the credit card deals with AMEX.
@@johniii8147 Do you know what it takes to get to the Diamond level? You have to spend a LOT of money! (Way more than just buying a Delta One fare for a single flight.) Being granted access to the lounges is one of the perks that you earn after spending big bucks with Delta and on their branded AMEX card.
@@lisalu910 Most people get it through AMEX spend. It's actually not that hard if you're a business owner and put most things on the card. I know plenty of people that's exactly what they do. DL makes a lot more off that method than actual flying.
Yes the Delta AMS flight is left over from Northwest Airlines days I'd say many of the passengers on the flight are making connections at Schiphol. Delta did have a hub for flights to Asia in the 90's. I believe there was service to 6 cities in Asia. The hub was abruptly shutdown and if I remember right was moved up to Seattle. A new concourse was built at PDX to accommodate those Delta Flights. I didn't work at PDX at that time but I was working for Delta in those years and I believe that's what happened. Now besides the AMS flight. Delta will again fly to Tokyo again which they flew for years and the new nonstop to Seoul. Those flights as you mentioned do start in 2023. Other Int'l flights out of PDX are Condor to Frankfurt, Icelandair to Keflavik, British Airways to London. Then the flights to Canada and Mexico on their airlines. I like PDX it actually is one of my favorite airports and I have been to a number of them. Newark is my least favorite on earth. I enjoyed your video. The flight looked comfortable and the food looked great. Portland weather and Amsterdam have somewhat similar weather. I don't think I have ever been to Schiphol Airport when it was not cloudy and foggy. London and Frankfurt also. Enjoy your travels while your young. I know I did.
Fantastic info!! Thank you. Taking advantage of the time I have to travel and see the world has been fantastic!
The curtained seat area at the front of Delta One is the crew rest seat!
That makes sense!
the curtained seat is for flight crew rest area.
Are all A330-300’s outfitted with older Delta 1 layouts? Going to Hawaii n D1. Looking forward to trip.
In my understanding, yes. The A330 -200s and -300s are the older Delta One setup
Probably going to book this flight for next spring. Was curious because Seat guru for the Delta flight 178 A330-300 PDX to Amsterdam shows a different layout than what the Delta website has. Specifically Delta has Premium select as rows 20-22. Seat Guru doesn't show this.
So, I was wondering with the new layout did Delta also modernize the Delta One seats for this flight? Can you help?
I can't tell you exactly what they did with the cabins, but if I recall correctly, this aircraft did have premium select. I do know they got two batches of A330-300s so it's possible that there are two different layouts.
My suggestion is, when booking, look at the seat map for the aircraft you're booking and selecting your seat for. It's possible to have an equipment swap, but it's still the best accurate depiction for you at this moment at least. Good luck!
Seat guru is now very outdated. All delta a330 now have premium select.
Seat with the curtain is for the pilots to rest . Some A330s don't have Crew bunk beds. SriLankan Airlines has this set up too
Thanks for the video. I’m doing this flight next year and was wondering if delta one was worth it. I still can’t decide. It doesn’t seem to be since it’s not a suite.
If you’re looking for the newer Delta One suites, than the A330 definitely isn’t what you’re lookin for. Most other long haul airplanes do offer it still however
Delta used to have a non stop to Tokyo from Portland, about 27 years ago .
I was quite surprised when Delta opened up the AMS-MCO route again last year. Unfortunately, I was one of those poor souls that got on the AMS-MCO flight on November 9th, which got me ending up in Tampa with absolutely no chance of doing my 'enrollment on arrival' interview for Global Entry. It would have been possible, but I wasn't willing to wait for 6 hours after getting off an 8 hour flight 🙂
Now, I didn't mind ending up at TPA as it was actually closer to my final destination, but a lot of my fellow passengers were quite upset.
Jeez that’s a crazy travel day. I do wonder if some of the stranger Delta routes to places like Portland and Orlando are just due to SkyTeam wanting to operate the route but KLM not wanting to put their own aircraft on the route 🤷♂️
@@PatrickSheaAviation What's really strange is that Delta only operates the AMS-MCO flights during the winter. One would think it would be busier during the summer, when people want to take their kids to Disney World during the school holidays. Another thing that strikes me as odd is that Delta operates the A350 between AMS and DTW (which I flew in April of last year), but uses the A330 on the AMS-ATL route. I know ATL is a major hub and I'll be going there in June on my way to TPA 🙂
Just flew this same aircraft from Boston to Heathrow - very disappointing compared to United Polaris that used to fly the same route. This set up is 15-20 years out of date. Hope they start updating these planes very soon
Hi, I noticed at 1:26 on your ticket your name is spelled: Patrickjohn Shea like you would only have 1 given name. Did you have any problems with that at check in or security?
Nah, no problems. I’ve noticed that on some airlines where they combine first and middle names. Who knows why 🤷♂️
I believe the seat with the curtain is for crew rest
They’ve had Seoul and Tokyo for years. They were suspended during COVID. It exists for business.
I have an upcoming flight on this route in a few months but the seat selected is not possible on any A330-300, as my seat is in row 44/45. Are they changing it to A330neo?
I don't know of any equipment changes, I'd be curious why that might be. I will say that I believe they have multiple configurations of A330-300 considering I had a flight on one from ATL-GRU last year in row 52, but it was definitely a A333. Not sure...
Portland and Amsterdam are Nike's global and European headquarters, respectively. I'd venture to guess the route works in part due to Nike and that a good chunk of those Delta One seats are filled with Nike employees.
Good to know. I’d assume that may have a small piece to do with it
I'm flying first class/Delta One on a A330 to London soon and get Delta Sky Club as part of that flight. What gets you in, is it reflected on your boarding pass, app based, etc? Just want to be prepared.
If you’re in delta one then you’re good. Otherwise it takes airline status or the Delta credit cards
if you have standby flights but for first class would you still be able to access sky club ? and how likely is a flight to Amsterdam mid day in the summer gonna have standby seats available?
Amsterdam flights are tricky but this one from PDX often has delta one seats available. DTW and SLC typically have economy space on one of the flights
@@PatrickSheaAviation thanks for letting me know
The curtain on row 2 is for pilot crew rest.
I thought they upgraded the delta one suites? When did you actually film this flight. Just curious. Thanks!!!
This was in December 2022. They have updated the 767 and A350/A330neos. The A330-200 and -300 are still in the older delta one setup
@@PatrickSheaAviation ok. Appreciate the info. 👍
do they have showers in the bathrooms in pdx sky club like other sky clubs i know l.a and Detroit has showers?
Bathrooms, yes. Showers, nope
when was this flight because when I flew with them they served starter and main course all in one tray which I didnt like it when was this?
This flight was December 2022
As others said the row 1 curtained seat is for crew rest - we had the same thing at TWA on our 747's in First Class. Also, the N number ending in NW shows that it was originally with Northwest before the merger. The only A330's delivered direct to Delta are their A330-900neos. Great job with your channel, Patrick - your videography and commentary is top notch. Thank you!
Great info! Thanks!
Actually the 280 ton 330s I believe was the model were directly delivered to delta. So some of the ceos came new to delta. But in this case with the NW it was a Northwest jet.
That's correct - in the newer aircraft they build in a crew rest but on the older models its always a seat in business
DL took 10 330-300s well after the merger.
I flew on the a330 to London from Minneapolis in the premium economy product a month ago, and it was a good product and even the catering was on point imo. The return flight was empty and the economy passengers got to have the lie flat experience. The downside of premium economy the lavatories are near the rear of the aircraft
Cool! Economy sounds like a hell of a deal on that flight
@@PatrickSheaAviation yeah it was since the middle seats were empty and the economy passengers that were there took the seats there had the lie flat experience. That’s how empty the flight was on the return flight from London
FYI - They don't cook food on an airplane - they heat it up. So if it was cooked perfectly it was cooked on the ground before the flight and that's still pretty hard to do but yea just saying ;)
I kind of figured, but the amount of time I’ve been served the chewiest of meats, I always appreciate a good cut of meat on an airplane. Thanks!
I wasn't happy at all when they swapped my 767-400 from BOS to LHR to the A330-300. So much so that I changed it to a Virgin Atlantic A330-900neo.
Agreed that is a disappointing downgrade. Still haven’t flown Virgin Atlantic, but Virgin America was always my favorite so I’ve been wanting to try out Virgin Atlantic
That's a veteran move! Nice job.
Virgin Atlantic gets much better MQD’s than Delta flights always fly a sky team partner and credit it to DAL
I haven't flown Delta One in a few years, but I have done it on A330. My recollection was that the toe box in the seat was so cramped, it really was a distraction from quality sleep. I've never thought it's a product worth paying cash for, but pre-covid you could usually find good deals using miles if you looked hard enough. I like the A330 for long haul because it is a wide body with two aisles and if you're in economy, the seat configuration of 2-4-2 is so much better than 3-3-3 or 3-4-3. With the two aisles, it's just so much easier to get up and walk around for a few minutes maybe once every hour or two. Hydration and good circulation are so important on long haul to staying comfortable and arriving fresher. I think Delta overall does a good job, but not a great job. I feel that their cabin crews can be a little bit hit or miss. One flight a great crew, the next flight, not so great.
All good points. I do agree this toe box felt a bit cramped, but I’d be curious if the other delta one products are better
How about alcoholic beverages in the lounge?
The curtain on international are for relief pilot crew rest
1A, is a pilot crew rest seat
Thanks Patrick 😄☺️
it ain't the united polaris lounge type food but not bad.
Agreed. It also isn’t one of their main skyclubs either so it gets better. Stay posted… later this year I’ll be checking out a couple of their top skyclubs
How tall are you?
I am 5’ 9”
I miss the Memphis to Amsterdam Northwest/KLM route
A lot of old routes died either because of Covid or before Covid because of less efficient airplanes. I’m sure as more efficient airplanes come out we will see these small markers get their air service back
The curtain is for the pilot
No pajamas for J on this flight?
Nope. I haven’t had them on any of my 3 long haul delta flights in business class. To be fair I don’t fly delta as much so I’m not sure if that’s a regular thing or not
medical procedure curatain. Some processes are not conducive in the water closet.
So you got what you booked...
Amsterdam is a hub for Delta
They used to be. They aren’t anymore, but they are a major SkyTeam hub so Delta flies there frequently for connections
@@PatrickSheaAviation That’s why this route exists
When you say "customs" you really mean "immigration" or "passport control". That's where the border officer checks and stamps your passport. Customs is where they check your bags when exiting the baggage area (usually just a walk-through if you don't have anything to declare.) It drives me crazy when people use the wrong terminology for this!
PDX looks so outdated. That green carpet all over the place certainly doesn't help. Very 1980s
Flew SEA to AMS 7-1-2023 business class A330-200, a real veteran. PLUS - service, food ok but small. MINUS task lighting dim and not adjustable, very poor video screens - dim and low res, bring 2 prong to stereo audio adapter, so last century ;), lay flat seats first gen, one attendant nice but needed a drug test IMO.
Delta lounge is the best at SEA, large, great food. Premium check was the worst experienced at SEA. Poor signage, long line, tired employees
This is an old 300 outdated aircraft.
Delta’s food service in Delta One is cheap and very mediocre. Both AA and UA far exceed Delta’s standards in premium cabin meal service.
I gotta say, AA’s meal service did impress me. I wish US carriers could meet the global standard for meal services with real plates and multiple courses
You really overuse "With that being said" You say it several times per video.
Delta One looked fine to me, but Shithole Airport was AWFUL!!! Not only long line in customs, but no WATER FOUNTAINS!!! THEN, you have to board the connecting flight ON A GODDAM BUS!!! HOW F-ING PRIMITIVE!!!
SO DISGUSTING. DELTA IS A MESS. THESE ARE LIKE FROM 1955.
You will find much better seats on their A330neos and A350s at least 🤷♂️