Bought one from Bonners a month ago and love it. Very impressed overall and the action is excellent as well as the key surface. Also a great company to buy from
Tony, I enjoy the way you present your demonstrations so very much. Clearly knowledgeable & straight to the point. You have an amazing capacity to showcase the tonal variations utilizing the perfect tune to make your point. You are a true blessing to Bonners and to the perspective buyers God bless you. Regards, Mhister Bhee.
Wish I could have met Tony at the Milton Keynes store and purchased my 785 from him. A bit far though since we're from Oregon. I've enjoyed hooking it up to apps like Simply Piano and the Yamaha Piano App. Please, please list all songs as you move through your videos!
What a pity that you didn't play the new fortepiano sounds. I was very curious about that. And as a very happy and proud owner of an AvantGrand N1X I'm very interested why Yamaha had to re-sample the CFX voice - and to know what is the difference now between the old and the new CFX sound? I suppose they did some more justice and dynamics to the bass end! :)
I feel like the 785 has a lighter key action, the sound system is better and the keys have counterweights. Overall, if you can get a 775 at a good price I still think it is a good digital piano. With that said, I do prefer the key action, touch sensitivity and sound of the 785. Also, good luck getting a 775 in the US, as far as I know they don’t offer it in the US.
@@songof6p my advice to you my first is to go with the clp785, do NOT go with ca99 , I had a bad experience with this model, boxy sound, muddy and muffled not pleasing sound at all, swipe screen panel is a pain in the neck, at the end of the day it's your money, your choice. Best of luck 👍
What is the difference between this model and CSP170, especially the integration with the Smart Pianist app ? does this offer all the sound banks offered in the Smart Pianist app or only the Piano tones ?
Dear Toni, thank you very much for your excellent videos! I will now buy a clp 795 gp. I would have bought it with you but I do not live in the UK. Sorry. Would you please tell me the name of the song you are playing at 0:35 min. at the beginning? Thank you and keep on making the superb videos. Regards Kai
Well the CA99 and Novus NV-5 have a terrible buzz in the soundboard. We had a CA99 and traded up to the NV-5, no dice. We are working on getting money back from Kawai dealer. So Yamaha it is. It doesn't matter the features if there is a basic design flaw. Very disappointed, we wanted so much to love the Kawai. UPDATE: Money back, full refund, CVP-805 en-route. Thank goodness Kawai dealer was willing to take both pianos back. Very stressful 2 month experience with Kawai. Repairman to the house, forgetting parts, installing parts that didn't help. Questions like, "Do you have a TV in the same room as the piano?"
@@vichna_slava_ukraini I also wanted the CA99, as it is generall revieved as a very nice piano on RUclips. However, seing how many people have quality problems with their products(you'll find whole forums dedicated to issues with the CA-series) I would never buy one again. If it already breaks today, guess what happens in a few years down the road... My local dealer basically confirmed this, saying that they got many returns also from the older CA series. Seing that Kawai had these issues earliert but were not able to fix it, is a clear sign of bad quality mgmt in m opinion. Recently got the Yamaha CLP-785. The action is a tad heavier (which can be good or bad),and also the low notes make the piano body resonate more in the CA99. In everything else though, the Yamaha surpasses the CA99 in my opinion. The Yamaha and Bösendorfer samples sound nicer than the SK-EX samples, but I'm aware that is fully subjective. It's a shame, as I really wanted to like the CA99. But for me it seemed most RUclips channels overhype it (it makes sense for them), as most of them also sell it :) Tbh: Even if the Kawai did not have these quality issues, seeing how the Yamaha plays, I would not go back to the Kawai. Good lucky finding the right piano! :)
Hi, I am unable to decide between KDP 110 and Rp 501r/ 302, (and may be Yamaha ydp 164) . Frankly the Roland sound is not at all pleasing to me. I love the kawai timber. But Roland has escapement in its action and few other features. Should I be choosing Action over sound?? Need your valuable suggestions on this. My usage is mainly for contemporary, classical, jazz pieces and most importantly for songwriting and vocal accompaniment. Hoping to receive a reply.
How does the new action compare to the action on the previous gen CLP..I currently have a 3 night a week gig at a restaurant that has a CLP 695 GP. I find the action very fatiguing and too heavy.I used to own a C7 (2003model) and the action on the CLP GP695 is quite a bit heavier than the real C7.....
Thanks for your video. I am planning to purchase the clp 785. I would like to use this piano as my midi daw controller to perform my spitfire audio orchestral libraries. May I do this. I know that the yamaha keylab 88 will play the spitfire audio orchestral libraries. But will I be able to perform spitfire audio orchestral Albion One library?
@@AndrewSiow Ha! Just for a coincidence I watched the video again to see if someone had answered and it had just happened! How are the odds! Many, many thanks Andrew! Sheet music already ordered!
Notabene: I had also asked on Pianostreet and they had answered along the lines of "cheesy unknown music, you are unlikely to ever find the author or the sheet music", but I knew this was a quality tune. I went on RUclips to listen to other pieces from the same composer and I was surprised at the things I had already heard (the sleigh ride) or actually liked a lot (the belle of the ball, the jazz pizzicato). You really made my day. Thanks again!!
I have played the 785, NU1X and N5. The 785’s touch doesn’t come close to the other two true hybrids. It’s great on all other accounts, butI’ll rather an N5 or NU1X for the far superior touch.
I just got my CLP 785 2 weeks ago and I love it. I was looking at the NU1X and The CLP 785 before I chose the 785. I played the NU1X for over an hour and I also played the CLP 785 and a Yamaha acoustic baby grand (I don’t remember the model) at the same time. This is my humble opinion. The NU1X has a key action that feels exactly like an upright Yamaha U1 acoustic piano. The sound was very good, and it was a really pleasing instrument to play. The CLP 785 does have a lighter key action than the 685, and it was much closer to feeling like the acoustic grand piano that I played. Was it the same as an acoustic grand? No, but impressively close. I ultimately went with the 785 because I feel like it offered better samples (CFX and Bosendeorfer), a slightly better sound system, and if you are trying to duplicate the key action of a grand piano, it is closer to a grand piano feel. For myself and my 2 children who are learning piano, I needed the benefits of playing quietly with a digital piano while still having a good key action and all of the great learning tools available with a digital piano. Yes, they love the 100’s of voices, and if that gets them to sit down at the piano every day and be creative before they do their regular practice, I am a fan. Ultimately, I would prefer a hybrid with a true grand piano action, but I din’t want to pay $3000 + more dollars to get a hybrid with a grand piano action. I almost went for the NU1X, but I didn’t as it was about $800 more and I felt like I was still able to play beautiful expressive music with a very good key action on the 785. I hope that is helpful.
@@josephbergsten935 Thank you for your review, it’s really helpful because you compare with other higher class Yamaha piano, as it will show how the we know its differences with the higher model. I also plan to have it for my children piano journey. Hope they will like it. Thanks man!
Exactly what i was thinking. Got that crappy Native Instruments Komplete Kontrol S88 MKll midi keyboard. Keys starts dying after 1 year. Now i'm gonna use my CLP 785 as a midi keyboard just because the keys are so fine and great to play. Still, with my Mackie speakers and Kontakt Chroma piano, it beats the sound of the 785 dramaticly.
Hybrids have to be eating away at acoustic piano sales in as big way. Especially in the home market which I assume is THE dominant market. Where all the sales are made. Most people buy a piano without considering ideal placement for the best acoustics. As there are bad locations in any room. People end up putting their new hi dollar pianos in areas that make the sound "worse". And some might notice wondering why it sounded better in the showroom. But with a hybrid, once you put on a good set of headphones placement in a room and room acoustics are no longer important. It's when you rely on the pianos speakers where there might be a slight tradeoff in perceived sound quality. Which I suspect most buyers wont notice anyway. Being able to place a grand where you choose to in a room is one PLUS no one's mentioned in any video. Which you did with your 785...placing it away from a wall Don't know if it was sitting on a carpet (more important for an a grand). Great demo. Excellent choice of demo material.
@@lukasburkel1250 I'm not gonna break a key just to show the wood inside. If a piano that cost me 1300 euros had some semblance of wood you can bet this one which costs way way more has full wood.
@@lukasburkel1250 And to settle the matter here's a picture of a NWX action key, the one used in my keyboard, courtesy of pianoworld forum.pianoworld.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/2992688/re-yamahas-nwx-wood-key-under-the-surface.html
@@wilde77 Thanks for the link! I already knew this thread in the forum and that's actually exactly my source for that statement that these are not wooden keys. On this picture (www.piano-centrum-rostock.de/yamaha-natural-wood.html) for me it looked like it's plastic with wooden sides, but I was looking at the posts again right now and actually maybe I was wrong and it's solid wood.
Bought one from Bonners a month ago and love it. Very impressed overall and the action is excellent as well as the key surface. Also a great company to buy from
Tony, I enjoy the way you present your demonstrations so very much. Clearly knowledgeable & straight to the point. You have an amazing capacity to showcase the tonal variations utilizing the perfect tune to make your point. You are a true blessing to Bonners and to the perspective buyers God bless you. Regards, Mhister Bhee.
Best digital piano ever made so far (not a hybrid) sound, playability, design, headphone experience, quality, price, overall 10 / 10 amazing piano
how would you put this in comparison with the 775?
Wish I could have met Tony at the Milton Keynes store and purchased my 785 from him. A bit far though since we're from Oregon. I've enjoyed hooking it up to apps like Simply Piano and the Yamaha Piano App. Please, please list all songs as you move through your videos!
What a pity that you didn't play the new fortepiano sounds. I was very curious about that.
And as a very happy and proud owner of an AvantGrand N1X I'm very interested why Yamaha had to re-sample the CFX voice - and to know what is the difference now between the old and the new CFX sound? I suppose they did some more justice and dynamics to the bass end! :)
Awesome piano sounds... Very soothing! Nice Demo
THANKS will you be doing a review on teh new CLP835.
would love to see a comparison between the clp 775 and clp 785!
I feel like the 785 has a lighter key action, the sound system is better and the keys have counterweights. Overall, if you can get a 775 at a good price I still think it is a good digital piano. With that said, I do prefer the key action, touch sensitivity and sound of the 785. Also, good luck getting a 775 in the US, as far as I know they don’t offer it in the US.
@@josephbergsten935 I ordered a CLP 775 in January. I live in the US. Still waiting. 😳
I think the record input was overloaded for the first two tunes from about 9 minutes oh and at 10:05. Great demo however.
Very professional from beginning to end
I'm very interested, but I dont know btw this and the kawai ca99
I'm also interested to see a comparison between these two
@@songof6p my advice to you my first is to go with the clp785, do NOT go with ca99 , I had a bad experience with this model, boxy sound, muddy and muffled not pleasing sound at all, swipe screen panel is a pain in the neck, at the end of the day it's your money, your choice. Best of luck 👍
@@khaledramadan3457 and what about between used Yamaha U1 and CLP 785 ? Approximatively at the same Price (5000€).
Thanks
What is the difference between this model and CSP170, especially the integration with the Smart Pianist app ? does this offer all the sound banks offered in the Smart Pianist app or only the Piano tones ?
How do the following ones compare to each other?:
• Yamaha CLP-785
• Roland LX-17
• Roland LX-708
• Kawai CS-11
• Kawai CA-99
Dear Toni, thank you very much for your excellent videos! I will now buy a clp 795 gp. I would have bought it with you but I do not live in the UK. Sorry. Would you please tell me the name of the song you are playing at 0:35 min. at the beginning? Thank you and keep on making the superb videos. Regards Kai
How does this compare with the CA99, the Novus5 and the Yamaha AvantGarde series of pianos?
Well the CA99 and Novus NV-5 have a terrible buzz in the soundboard. We had a CA99 and traded up to the NV-5, no dice. We are working on getting money back from Kawai dealer. So Yamaha it is. It doesn't matter the features if there is a basic design flaw. Very disappointed, we wanted so much to love the Kawai.
UPDATE: Money back, full refund, CVP-805 en-route. Thank goodness Kawai dealer was willing to take both pianos back. Very stressful 2 month experience with Kawai. Repairman to the house, forgetting parts, installing parts that didn't help. Questions like, "Do you have a TV in the same room as the piano?"
buy the yamaha. i just retourned my ca99 because of a speaker buzzing issue. i would expect better quality control from a brand like kawai...
@@kevinhurzeler9705 Is it that bad? I really wanted this Model.
@@vichna_slava_ukraini I also wanted the CA99, as it is generall revieved as a very nice piano on RUclips. However, seing how many people have quality problems with their products(you'll find whole forums dedicated to issues with the CA-series) I would never buy one again. If it already breaks today, guess what happens in a few years down the road... My local dealer basically confirmed this, saying that they got many returns also from the older CA series. Seing that Kawai had these issues earliert but were not able to fix it, is a clear sign of bad quality mgmt in m opinion. Recently got the Yamaha CLP-785. The action is a tad heavier (which can be good or bad),and also the low notes make the piano body resonate more in the CA99. In everything else though, the Yamaha surpasses the CA99 in my opinion. The Yamaha and Bösendorfer samples sound nicer than the SK-EX samples, but I'm aware that is fully subjective. It's a shame, as I really wanted to like the CA99. But for me it seemed most RUclips channels overhype it (it makes sense for them), as most of them also sell it :) Tbh: Even if the Kawai did not have these quality issues, seeing how the Yamaha plays, I would not go back to the Kawai. Good lucky finding the right piano! :)
Hi, I am unable to decide between KDP 110 and Rp 501r/ 302, (and may be Yamaha ydp 164) . Frankly the Roland sound is not at all pleasing to me. I love the kawai timber. But Roland has escapement in its action and few other features. Should I be choosing Action over sound?? Need your valuable suggestions on this. My usage is mainly for contemporary, classical, jazz pieces and most importantly for songwriting and vocal accompaniment. Hoping to receive a reply.
Is this piano recorded with a room microphone or thru a soundboard ?
How does the new action compare to the action on the previous gen CLP..I currently have a 3 night a week gig at a restaurant that has a CLP 695 GP. I find the action very fatiguing and too heavy.I used to own a C7 (2003model) and the action on the CLP GP695 is quite a bit heavier than the real C7.....
I am looking for an authentic Piano sound. Should I go for CLP 785 or acoustic Yamaha U1J ?
È stato registrato con microfoni ambientali?
Thanks for your video. I am planning to purchase the clp 785. I would like to use this piano as my midi daw controller to perform my spitfire audio orchestral libraries. May I do this. I know that the yamaha keylab 88 will play the spitfire audio orchestral libraries. But will I be able to perform spitfire audio orchestral Albion One library?
Nice videos. How would you compare it to Roland LX708? I find Roland superior to Yamaha concerning sound. Would you agree?
Roland is great on synthesizers but Yamaha is the king of piano sampled sounds
What is the best between the CVP 809 and this CLP 785?
Which one is better, 785 and 765gp?
What is the song you're playing at 1:28?
What’s the difference between the 785 and the 775?
This one looks better
Spruce speaker cones and 4 Fortepiano samples vs 2
Hi,
may one ask what is the "really pretty tune" at 3:33 onward? Many thanks
It's "Forgotten Dreams" by Leroy Anderson.
@@AndrewSiow Ha! Just for a coincidence I watched the video again to see if someone had answered and it had just happened! How are the odds! Many, many thanks Andrew! Sheet music already ordered!
Notabene: I had also asked on Pianostreet and they had answered along the lines of "cheesy unknown music, you are unlikely to ever find the author or the sheet music", but I knew this was a quality tune. I went on RUclips to listen to other pieces from the same composer and I was surprised at the things I had already heard (the sleigh ride) or actually liked a lot (the belle of the ball, the jazz pizzicato).
You really made my day.
Thanks again!!
I have played the 785, NU1X and N5. The 785’s touch doesn’t come close to the other two true hybrids. It’s great on all other accounts, butI’ll rather an N5 or NU1X for the far superior touch.
What's your opinion, if you would compare CSP 170 and this CLP 785 ?
I just got my CLP 785 2 weeks ago and I love it. I was looking at the NU1X and The CLP 785 before I chose the 785. I played the NU1X for over an hour and I also played the CLP 785 and a Yamaha acoustic baby grand (I don’t remember the model) at the same time. This is my humble opinion. The NU1X has a key action that feels exactly like an upright Yamaha U1 acoustic piano. The sound was very good, and it was a really pleasing instrument to play. The CLP 785 does have a lighter key action than the 685, and it was much closer to feeling like the acoustic grand piano that I played. Was it the same as an acoustic grand? No, but impressively close. I ultimately went with the 785 because I feel like it offered better samples (CFX and Bosendeorfer), a slightly better sound system, and if you are trying to duplicate the key action of a grand piano, it is closer to a grand piano feel. For myself and my 2 children who are learning piano, I needed the benefits of playing quietly with a digital piano while still having a good key action and all of the great learning tools available with a digital piano. Yes, they love the 100’s of voices, and if that gets them to sit down at the piano every day and be creative before they do their regular practice, I am a fan. Ultimately, I would prefer a hybrid with a true grand piano action, but I din’t want to pay $3000 + more dollars to get a hybrid with a grand piano action. I almost went for the NU1X, but I didn’t as it was about $800 more and I felt like I was still able to play beautiful expressive music with a very good key action on the 785. I hope that is helpful.
@@josephbergsten935 Thank you for your review, it’s really helpful because you compare with other higher class Yamaha piano, as it will show how the we know its differences with the higher model. I also plan to have it for my children piano journey. Hope they will like it. Thanks man!
Why can’t Yamaha come out with a solid wood hammer action midi controller?
Exactly what i was thinking. Got that crappy Native Instruments Komplete Kontrol S88 MKll midi keyboard. Keys starts dying after 1 year. Now i'm gonna use my CLP 785 as a midi keyboard just because the keys are so fine and great to play. Still, with my Mackie speakers and Kontakt Chroma piano, it beats the sound of the 785 dramaticly.
What movie theme song is that at 5:47 ?
Good Video! Thank you
Hybrids have to be eating away at acoustic piano sales in as big way. Especially in the home market which I assume is THE dominant market. Where all the sales are made.
Most people buy a piano without considering ideal placement for the best acoustics. As there are bad locations in any room. People end up putting their new hi dollar pianos in areas that make the sound "worse". And some might notice wondering why it sounded better in the showroom. But with a hybrid, once you put on a good set of headphones placement in a room and room acoustics are no longer important. It's when you rely on the pianos speakers where there might be a slight tradeoff in perceived sound quality. Which I suspect most buyers wont notice anyway.
Being able to place a grand where you choose to in a room is one PLUS no one's mentioned in any video. Which you did with your 785...placing it away from a wall Don't know if it was sitting on a carpet (more important for an a grand).
Great demo. Excellent choice of demo material.
I was of the opinion that actually it is not a full wood keyboard but indeed has a synthetic core. Am I wrong?
Even my P 515 has a full wooden core so I don’t think so.
@@wilde77 Well, I don‘t know about your P-515 but what Yamaha marks as wood is unfortunately not always full wood.
@@lukasburkel1250 I'm not gonna break a key just to show the wood inside. If a piano that cost me 1300 euros had some semblance of wood you can bet this one which costs way way more has full wood.
@@lukasburkel1250 And to settle the matter here's a picture of a NWX action key, the one used in my keyboard, courtesy of pianoworld forum.pianoworld.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/2992688/re-yamahas-nwx-wood-key-under-the-surface.html
@@wilde77 Thanks for the link! I already knew this thread in the forum and that's actually exactly my source for that statement that these are not wooden keys. On this picture (www.piano-centrum-rostock.de/yamaha-natural-wood.html) for me it looked like it's plastic with wooden sides, but I was looking at the posts again right now and actually maybe I was wrong and it's solid wood.
11:01
Cop -795 go yamaha