As always, the best explanations by Bonners. I watched one from a different company a few months back that claimed a massive difference to the 785. I questioned the terminology but never received a response. But you’ve explained the differences clearly. For me the algorithm for the touch would be the obvious upgrade but it’s irritating that it’s not provided as a software upgrade on the 785 but i guess that’s how they keep surviving 🙂 great instrument and video
Tony, Very helpful.... Question - at 14.30 you mention 480 additional voices through an "XG Bank". Can you please provide details. I am thinking of purchasing the 875 but would like to add a few voices that the model does not come with. I can hook up the piano to a laptop but can't find any info on how to actually add voices. Thanks much.
About time too Tony, that Yamaha have now developed the algorithm to simulate that very important very light touch triggering of tones just as you'd expect on a real acoustic PF. Not sure why it's taken so long to get here, as it's 'only' sensor related to the mech so effectively a SW RDD activity.... anyway, we're here! 🎉 Must try that soon then.....
Hi Tony thanks so much for this video, you are very knowledgeable and you play beautifully also 🙂. I went to the Yamaha Website and compared the specs between the 875 and 885 and I dont' see any difference other than 10amp difference in the speakers and of course the design is a bit different. I am just wondering why there is such a hurge price difference between the two. The Matte Black 875 is $4999 while the Matte Black 885 is $6300. Thats a big jump.
I have a beautiful Kawai GL40 Grand I got brand new a few months ago but looking for a very high quality digital piano for silent practice as I live in a small apartment. I’m stuck between the Kawai CA901, Yamaha CLP885 and potentially the Roland LX9… which would you recommend and what would be the reasoning? I will have the opportunity to test out the KawaiCA901 and the Roland LX9 but not the Yamaha CLP885 (not in stock). Please advise your majesty . Thank you
I have a Yamaha NU1X which also has binaural sampling, and I use a pair of Bose QC35 headphones. Do you have a CFX Concert Grand or a Bosendorfer in stock at Milton Keynes that I could have a go on to compare the sound through headphones to that of the real thing? Because, honestly, I'm less than impressed. I usually change to one of the voices that don't have the binaural sampling when I use headphones.
I never tried any of those. You should be able to disable binaural sampling for CFX or Bösendorfer in the configuration. Headphone itself can also be a bit personal. I discovered that I don't like closed backs headphones and prefer open backs. I've seen people complaining about binaural sampling in different models or with headsets, so you're certainly not alone in that.
I wonder about that too. About eight years ago I tried the Avant Guarde series, all three. The N1 was nice but I didn't like the other two models much. When I tried the CLP-785 a few years later, I was blown away. I can't explain it except that I loved the action, the sound and the look. I could easily forget that it was digital. The CLP-885 promises to be even better.
Well, NU1XA is upright action and not grand piano action. Real action with lots of wooden parts also have a bit more of maintenance/regulation. Here is very very humid, which is one of my fears for acoustic pianos. A third reason is that playing with open back headphone or low volumes, the real action makes way more perceptible "noise". CLP-885, at least on paper seems to have more powerful speakers, has a lot more of voices (I don't care about most of them). 885 also has "Rhythm", which is like a backing band that accompanies your tone changes. It's really nice to use for exercises and even some music you might be learning, much more immersive than a metronome. Exercises can feel like music, even simple scales. I don't know if NU1XA has Rhythm feature, but I didn't find it in the Yamaha website specs. Those reasons might be enough for some people. I have no idea if from 2023 NU1XA to CLP-885 now there's any improvement in modeling or samplings, can't opine on that. And afaik, NU1XA is not being sold in my country, which is the final nail on the coffin for me, personally. (never tried the NU1XA. I have a p-525 but I'm trying to buy a 885)
Tech, support and quality issues. Hybrids are not there yet in terms of trusted quality. Eventually mechanical issues happen due to having many moving parts.
@@FelipeVillelafdbva I own a NU1XA and I can confirm that doesn't have Rhythm accompaniments. But it's not a big deal: you can import a MIDI or Audio file with a rhythmic backing track on the USB and play it during your practice/performance. I used to have a CLP-585 with that feature, I used it few times but not very often.
@@FelipeVillelafdbva I have a beautiful Kawai GL40 Grand I got brand new a few months ago but looking for a very high quality digital piano for silent practice as I live in a small apartment. I’m stuck between the Kawai CA901, Yamaha CLP885 and potentially the Roland LX9… which would you recommend and what would be the reasoning? I will have the opportunity to test out the KawaiCA901 and the Roland LX9 but not the Yamaha CLP885 (not in stock). Please advise your majesty . Thank you
Bösendorfer voice sounds less good than CFX, there are excessive OVERTONES in the low keys and it's not real, in summary it is an excellent piano, although the price is quite high for the value.
This is a wonderful demo. Thank you.
Glad you liked it!
As always, the best explanations by Bonners. I watched one from a different company a few months back that claimed a massive difference to the 785. I questioned the terminology but never received a response. But you’ve explained the differences clearly. For me the algorithm for the touch would be the obvious upgrade but it’s irritating that it’s not provided as a software upgrade on the 785 but i guess that’s how they keep surviving 🙂 great instrument and video
Tony, Very helpful.... Question - at 14.30 you mention 480 additional voices through an "XG Bank". Can you please provide details. I am thinking of purchasing the 875 but would like to add a few voices that the model does not come with. I can hook up the piano to a laptop but can't find any info on how to actually add voices. Thanks much.
About time too Tony, that Yamaha have now developed the algorithm to simulate that very important very light touch triggering of tones just as you'd expect on a real acoustic PF. Not sure why it's taken so long to get here, as it's 'only' sensor related to the mech so effectively a SW RDD activity.... anyway, we're here! 🎉 Must try that soon then.....
Bonners Pianos & Keyboards, nice content I loved it
nice Piano.. nice Video Tony like always
Hi Tony thanks so much for this video, you are very knowledgeable and you play beautifully also 🙂. I went to the Yamaha Website and compared the specs between the 875 and 885 and I dont' see any difference other than 10amp difference in the speakers and of course the design is a bit different. I am just wondering why there is such a hurge price difference between the two. The Matte Black 875 is $4999 while the Matte Black 885 is $6300. Thats a big jump.
I have a beautiful Kawai GL40 Grand I got brand new a few months ago but looking for a very high quality digital piano for silent practice as I live in a small apartment. I’m stuck between the Kawai CA901, Yamaha CLP885 and potentially the Roland LX9… which would you recommend and what would be the reasoning? I will have the opportunity to test out the KawaiCA901 and the Roland LX9 but not the Yamaha CLP885 (not in stock). Please advise your majesty . Thank you
Seem like Yamaha has add more velocity layer for each 88 notes of the cfx and Bosendorfer samples.
I have a Yamaha NU1X which also has binaural sampling, and I use a pair of Bose QC35 headphones. Do you have a CFX Concert Grand or a Bosendorfer in stock at Milton Keynes that I could have a go on to compare the sound through headphones to that of the real thing? Because, honestly, I'm less than impressed. I usually change to one of the voices that don't have the binaural sampling when I use headphones.
I never tried any of those. You should be able to disable binaural sampling for CFX or Bösendorfer in the configuration.
Headphone itself can also be a bit personal. I discovered that I don't like closed backs headphones and prefer open backs.
I've seen people complaining about binaural sampling in different models or with headsets, so you're certainly not alone in that.
I'm curious as to why someone would choose this over an NU1XA, for roughly the same price? NU1XA gives you the 'real' action
I wonder about that too. About eight years ago I tried the Avant Guarde series, all three. The N1 was nice but I didn't like the other two models much. When I tried the CLP-785 a few years later, I was blown away. I can't explain it except that I loved the action, the sound and the look. I could easily forget that it was digital. The CLP-885 promises to be even better.
Well, NU1XA is upright action and not grand piano action.
Real action with lots of wooden parts also have a bit more of maintenance/regulation. Here is very very humid, which is one of my fears for acoustic pianos.
A third reason is that playing with open back headphone or low volumes, the real action makes way more perceptible "noise".
CLP-885, at least on paper seems to have more powerful speakers, has a lot more of voices (I don't care about most of them).
885 also has "Rhythm", which is like a backing band that accompanies your tone changes. It's really nice to use for exercises and even some music you might be learning, much more immersive than a metronome. Exercises can feel like music, even simple scales. I don't know if NU1XA has Rhythm feature, but I didn't find it in the Yamaha website specs.
Those reasons might be enough for some people. I have no idea if from 2023 NU1XA to CLP-885 now there's any improvement in modeling or samplings, can't opine on that.
And afaik, NU1XA is not being sold in my country, which is the final nail on the coffin for me, personally.
(never tried the NU1XA. I have a p-525 but I'm trying to buy a 885)
Tech, support and quality issues. Hybrids are not there yet in terms of trusted quality. Eventually mechanical issues happen due to having many moving parts.
@@FelipeVillelafdbva I own a NU1XA and I can confirm that doesn't have Rhythm accompaniments. But it's not a big deal: you can import a MIDI or Audio file with a rhythmic backing track on the USB and play it during your practice/performance. I used to have a CLP-585 with that feature, I used it few times but not very often.
@@FelipeVillelafdbva I have a beautiful Kawai GL40 Grand I got brand new a few months ago but looking for a very high quality digital piano for silent practice as I live in a small apartment. I’m stuck between the Kawai CA901, Yamaha CLP885 and potentially the Roland LX9… which would you recommend and what would be the reasoning? I will have the opportunity to test out the KawaiCA901 and the Roland LX9 but not the Yamaha CLP885 (not in stock). Please advise your majesty . Thank you
Bösendorfer voice sounds less good than CFX, there are excessive OVERTONES in the low keys and it's not real, in summary it is an excellent piano, although the price is quite high for the value.