That makes sense for a kit designed for the Swiss Alps thanks for that 👍 Not usually a factor for me in the middle of England though! Thanks for watching and taking the time to leave a comment really appreciate it buddy Take care Roo
I can not believe I hadn't ever thought of using a can top for a cup lid. That is just ingenious and I am so stealing that idea! Good video, thanks for posting!
@@PreparedCamping I have had one of these kits for years with the intention of putting together a traditional bush kit like from my youth but I had previously purchased the Russian VDV canteen kit and like it so much I haven't ever gotten around to actually using the Swiss kit.
@@turtlewolfpack6061 I collect militaria and the VDV kit is on my wishlist VDV is better for cooking with than this swiss set I imagine but this kit is excellent for a quick hot drink
@@PreparedCamping the VDV kit has been with me for a LOT of miles and many different adventures in the woods and I always find myself going back to it even as other bits of kit change. Another mess kit that I own and love is the Czech three piece one and I haven't packed it in a few years either. If someone were to make a modern VDV kit out of stainless for a good price I would likely buy a couple.
Mazakman cheers buddy! They're good bits of kit but I Really didn't like the cork stopper to the bottle I'm thinking of cutting the original bottle down a bit to make it a pot Enjoy your Sunday brother, all the best Roo
Nice with some interesting and useful mods 👍. Strictly speaking, the stove is not designed to be top-loaded and stacked up with twigs in order to create a bed or coals. Depending on the type used, wood can burn pretty hot .. especially the hardwoods .. enough to possibly damage the aluminium body. Twigs loaded in at the bottom keep the Fire relatively 'cool'. Yes, more effort but that's how it is. It works very well with Alcohol Gel Fuel or even Esbit Tabs. Attaching the Cork to the Bottle Neck with a length of Sink Plug Chain will ensure that the Cork does not go 'walkabout'. Take care ..
I've never had any of the M71 gel stoves the Swiss also issued that I think might fit in these like a trangia alcohol stove would. Great little kit for hot drinks or a mug of noodles on a cold day, thanks for watching and taking the time to leave your well reasoned comment much appreciated 👍 All the best Roo
@@PreparedCamping 👍 .. I buy the Gel ('Sicherheitbrennpaste' / Safety Burn Paste) at my local Supermarket in 850 g plastic bottles and decant it into smaller ones for use outdoors. Stove .. any suitably-sized metal container will do. Cut the bottom off an Aluminium Air Freshener Can .. whatever.
Yep, I was also gonna comment on the nice mods and warn against firing it up to hot... What was it again? About 660 degrees Celsius would make it collaps into a puddle of goo, depending on the grade of aluminium... And a lot of Sigg like bottles are made of copper, that has the added benefit of being antibacterial and help with having safer water and storage..
Gaziano Outdoors thanks for watching buddy hope you're having a super Sunday! 👍 I'm considering turning the original water bottle into a pot as the cup is a little small Take care mate Roo
Thanks for the video. Worth noting that the old style 'SIGG' shaped bottles (intended to carry fuel) had no inner lining and so would be fine for boiling. The newer consumer SIGG (or SIGG style) drinking bottles may have a thin plastic/rubber coating which would get damaged through boiling. Greetings from Switzerland.
That is pretty cool. I like it. The stopper is a bit weird. Definitely, would come in handy. Thanks for the support and sharing. Giving you more watch time my friend. Hugs
Cracking vid Roo, just picked up one of these from Military mart and was looking for ideas. Your vid came up straight away. Love the mods you have done, the lid idea is awesome! Thanks for sharing mate. All the best, Jay
as far as I know this stove was meant for solid fuel, esbit or now dragon. Hence the small opening. Twig fires can get hot enough to melt the aluminum so be careful.
Had one for about 5 or 6 years. I got it and an LK35 from Military Mart, a tenner for the stove, the LK was £17 I think. Haven't modded the stove itself, as it works well. Not sure about drilling more holes in it as the top ones are going to let heat out before it gets to the top of the cup sides to vent, and more lower holes will make it more susceptible to wind. I did use a kitchen sink hole drain strainer the same as you, but the other way up. A bolt and wing nut through the centre with a cut off domed base from an aerosol hole through that so it was a stand for the strainer. I used that to hold solid fuel tablets (cut down fire lighter blocks from the CoOp). Worked well. I wanted an alcohol stove for it, my Trangia was too fierce, flames coming out of the top holes, so I made a smaller one out of the base of a beer can and a strip from the can to form the inner reservoir with a string wick surround, pin prick holes around the top (which was the base), then the base cut of a small can of vegetables slotted in as the base for the burner. The same design as the Trangia, fuel heats up, travels up the wick, vapourises and flames out of the pin holes. Works a treat, and what's more I cut the cork down and the stove's top hole slots upside down over it and the bottle neck, the cup fits over that for packed assembly, water, stove and burner, one unit. I don't have a problem with corks, they've been used as bottle stoppers for centuries. I take them out of wine bottles fairly regularly. Never had it leak. The other advantage of it is you can use it to speed up boil time of the bottle. Not too tight, otherwise it will launch itself at a great rate of knots when the pressure builds up. In with just enough to hold it there, and it makes a pop and sits there or falls out when the water boils. I have an 40 year old one litre Swiss SIGG screw top aluminium bottle which I used for rock climbing weekends, they may be the manufacturers of the stove, it fits it like it was made for it, so I could use it instead. The other thing that fits the cup like it was made for it is another 40 year old item, the lid off the smallest Trangia kettle. I modded that by drilling 3 small holes, for draining water off from pasta, just in from the edge and 1 directly opposite to let air in so the water can drain easily, again works a treat. 🙂
I've never used an alcohol stove with it although I have made those beer can ones that would fit I've always just used twigs. The Swiss M71 gel stove worked well with it apparently. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment hope you have a great day. All the best, Roo
i had one,as said before be carefull not to let it get to hot mine is actuali crooked beceause it warped alot due to heat. it would be more havvy,but why arent they making these in titanium ? ok more expensive but would last longer and you could burn a hot fire in it
It's not designed to use wood, you'll end up with a runaway flame, it will melt everything, the same way a diesel engine runs away, use fuel tablets, or gel, only use wood under emergency situations.
@@MikeCarr-qo6rj Hi Mike thanks for watching and your concern, these were usually used with gel cookers as you say, the active ingredient in gel or tablets is usually ethanol that actually burns hotter than a woodfire. Just as you can boil water in plastic bottles over a campfire without melting the bottle, a few twigs won't melt this system as it's not encased in flame for a prolonged period like in a forge and is able to passively cool through radiation All the best Roo
Mountaincoffee Outdoors I know its just the top of an old can but I'm rather pleased with my home made cup lid 🤣 Thanks for watching buddy, take care Roo
It played!!! No idea what the problem was but after trying about 20 times (I'm waiting in my Swiss Army Volcano Stove delivery and have been watching review vids since placing the order). Good idea with the top. Looks like some kind of ikea fixing for the handle. I'll deffo do something similar. The sink drainer things good too. don't you just love it when you find a little bit of tat like that and find a use for it in your bush craft kit
@@rtronorba7309 indeed, the little handle is a 19mm hex head through bolt I had spare But in hindsight would probably look better with a little wooden knob screwed on I'm sure you'll be very happy once you get your set it's a nice lightweight kit Take care mate Roo
@@thomasmusso1147 if I had a tin foil hat I'd start thinking RUclips doesn't like me but I'm an unknown minnow so it's more likely that it's just a glitch 😉 Sorry, hopefully it will resolve itself somehow but thanks for stopping by and trying I really appreciate it 👍 Take care Roo
The cork allows for expansion in frozen climates.
Great Vid
That makes sense for a kit designed for the Swiss Alps thanks for that 👍
Not usually a factor for me in the middle of England though!
Thanks for watching and taking the time to leave a comment really appreciate it buddy
Take care
Roo
I can not believe I hadn't ever thought of using a can top for a cup lid. That is just ingenious and I am so stealing that idea! Good video, thanks for posting!
Thanks for watching and the kind feedback buddy much appreciated 👍
Its a great set and the lid really helps speed up your boil time
All the best
Roo
@@PreparedCamping I have had one of these kits for years with the intention of putting together a traditional bush kit like from my youth but I had previously purchased the Russian VDV canteen kit and like it so much I haven't ever gotten around to actually using the Swiss kit.
@@turtlewolfpack6061 I collect militaria and the VDV kit is on my wishlist
VDV is better for cooking with than this swiss set I imagine but this kit is excellent for a quick hot drink
@@PreparedCamping the VDV kit has been with me for a LOT of miles and many different adventures in the woods and I always find myself going back to it even as other bits of kit change. Another mess kit that I own and love is the Czech three piece one and I haven't packed it in a few years either. If someone were to make a modern VDV kit out of stainless for a good price I would likely buy a couple.
@@turtlewolfpack6061 so would I! 😉
I've got a reproduction set of the czech tins made from steel which were good value for money
Good ideas Roo! Thank you for sharing my friend.
Mazakman cheers buddy! They're good bits of kit but I Really didn't like the cork stopper to the bottle I'm thinking of cutting the original bottle down a bit to make it a pot
Enjoy your Sunday brother, all the best
Roo
Nice with some interesting and useful mods 👍.
Strictly speaking, the stove is not designed to be top-loaded and stacked up with twigs in order to create a bed or coals.
Depending on the type used, wood can burn pretty hot .. especially the hardwoods .. enough to possibly damage the aluminium body.
Twigs loaded in at the bottom keep the Fire relatively 'cool'. Yes, more effort but that's how it is. It works very well with Alcohol Gel Fuel or even Esbit Tabs.
Attaching the Cork to the Bottle Neck with a length of Sink Plug Chain will ensure that the Cork does not go 'walkabout'.
Take care ..
I've never had any of the M71 gel stoves the Swiss also issued that I think might fit in these like a trangia alcohol stove would.
Great little kit for hot drinks or a mug of noodles on a cold day, thanks for watching and taking the time to leave your well reasoned comment much appreciated 👍
All the best
Roo
@@PreparedCamping 👍 .. I buy the Gel ('Sicherheitbrennpaste' / Safety Burn Paste) at my local Supermarket in 850 g plastic bottles and decant it into smaller ones for use outdoors. Stove .. any suitably-sized metal container will do. Cut the bottom off an Aluminium Air Freshener Can .. whatever.
Yep, I was also gonna comment on the nice mods and warn against firing it up to hot... What was it again? About 660 degrees Celsius would make it collaps into a puddle of goo, depending on the grade of aluminium...
And a lot of Sigg like bottles are made of copper, that has the added benefit of being antibacterial and help with having safer water and storage..
had one for 20 years but never done any mods but will do now they are good bits of kit
They're great Arthur, thanks for watching and taking the time to comment 👍
All the best
Roo
I like the look of that, looks cool and different, like the mods you made too, never seen one before so thanks for sharing, all the best 👍
Gaziano Outdoors thanks for watching buddy hope you're having a super Sunday! 👍 I'm considering turning the original water bottle into a pot as the cup is a little small
Take care mate
Roo
Thanks for the video. Worth noting that the old style 'SIGG' shaped bottles (intended to carry fuel) had no inner lining and so would be fine for boiling. The newer consumer SIGG (or SIGG style) drinking bottles may have a thin plastic/rubber coating which would get damaged through boiling. Greetings from Switzerland.
Excellent point thank you for taking the time to say that really appreciate it 👍
All the best
Roo
That is pretty cool. I like it. The stopper is a bit weird. Definitely, would come in handy.
Thanks for the support and sharing. Giving you more watch time my friend.
Hugs
Thanks a million Regan! 👍
All the best from the UK
Roo
Cracking vid Roo, just picked up one of these from Military mart and was looking for ideas. Your vid came up straight away. Love the mods you have done, the lid idea is awesome! Thanks for sharing mate. All the best, Jay
Cheers Jay yeah just saw your Instagram mate they're awesome great for quick brews you'll love it 👍
All the best
Roo
Like that kit never had one or seen one in action thanks for sharing buddy
Sperrin Outdoors thanks for the positive feedback mate really appreciate it hope you have a great weekend!
All the best
Roo
Cool little camp stove. Never seen one b4. Dig the mods you did to it sweet stove brother!
JAC Adventurer the is for watching and the positive feedback buddy very much appreciated, hope you have an awesome weekend! 👍
All the best
Roo
as far as I know this stove was meant for solid fuel, esbit or now dragon. Hence the small opening. Twig fires can get hot enough to melt the aluminum so be careful.
Not a bad kit and good call on the mods.
Huntsman Bushcraft tha m&s for watching and the positive feedback buddy very much appreciated! 👍
Take care mate
Roo
When that bell rings and I get a new video notification I stop whatever I'm doing and head on over! Love the insights and the work you do.
Hey Roo, great video! Nice review, I really like your modifications! A very handy little stove!
Take care & God bless!
Joy
Hi Joy hope you're having a wonderful day!
Thanks for watching and taking the time to leave such kind feedback 👍
Take care and God bless
Roo
@@PreparedCamping You're very welcome! I hope you and your family have had a lovely day as well 😊
Had one for about 5 or 6 years. I got it and an LK35 from Military Mart, a tenner for the stove, the LK was £17 I think.
Haven't modded the stove itself, as it works well. Not sure about drilling more holes in it as the top ones are going to let heat out before it gets to the top of the cup sides to vent, and more lower holes will make it more susceptible to wind.
I did use a kitchen sink hole drain strainer the same as you, but the other way up. A bolt and wing nut through the centre with a cut off domed base from an aerosol hole through that so it was a stand for the strainer. I used that to hold solid fuel tablets (cut down fire lighter blocks from the CoOp). Worked well.
I wanted an alcohol stove for it, my Trangia was too fierce, flames coming out of the top holes, so I made a smaller one out of the base of a beer can and a strip from the can to form the inner reservoir with a string wick surround, pin prick holes around the top (which was the base), then the base cut of a small can of vegetables slotted in as the base for the burner. The same design as the Trangia, fuel heats up, travels up the wick, vapourises and flames out of the pin holes. Works a treat, and what's more I cut the cork down and the stove's top hole slots upside down over it and the bottle neck, the cup fits over that for packed assembly, water, stove and burner, one unit.
I don't have a problem with corks, they've been used as bottle stoppers for centuries. I take them out of wine bottles fairly regularly. Never had it leak. The other advantage of it is you can use it to speed up boil time of the bottle. Not too tight, otherwise it will launch itself at a great rate of knots when the pressure builds up. In with just enough to hold it there, and it makes a pop and sits there or falls out when the water boils.
I have an 40 year old one litre Swiss SIGG screw top aluminium bottle which I used for rock climbing weekends, they may be the manufacturers of the stove, it fits it like it was made for it, so I could use it instead.
The other thing that fits the cup like it was made for it is another 40 year old item, the lid off the smallest Trangia kettle. I modded that by drilling 3 small holes, for draining water off from pasta, just in from the edge and 1 directly opposite to let air in so the water can drain easily, again works a treat. 🙂
I've never used an alcohol stove with it although I have made those beer can ones that would fit I've always just used twigs.
The Swiss M71 gel stove worked well with it apparently.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment hope you have a great day.
All the best,
Roo
That is the way you do it....modify it and make it your own and....maybe even make it better than it was....ingenuity
Just Let Me Travel any excuse to tinker 😉 thanks for watching buddy hope you have a great weekend! 👍
Take care
Roo
i had one,as said before be carefull not to let it get to hot mine is actuali crooked beceause it warped alot due to heat. it would be more havvy,but why arent they making these in titanium ?
ok more expensive but would last longer and you could burn a hot fire in it
Biggest thing I’ve always disliked is the cork for the lid
@@HarshmanHills totally agree James, hope you're well buddy 👍
All the best
Roo
Awsome man great video 👍
The Wyatt life thanks for watching hope you had a great weekend buddy!
They're handy little kits and very cheap 👍
Take care
Roo
It's not designed to use wood, you'll end up with a runaway flame, it will melt everything, the same way a diesel engine runs away, use fuel tablets, or gel, only use wood under emergency situations.
@@MikeCarr-qo6rj Hi Mike thanks for watching and your concern, these were usually used with gel cookers as you say, the active ingredient in gel or tablets is usually ethanol that actually burns hotter than a woodfire.
Just as you can boil water in plastic bottles over a campfire without melting the bottle, a few twigs won't melt this system as it's not encased in flame for a prolonged period like in a forge and is able to passively cool through radiation
All the best
Roo
I like it brother. New sub.
Hi thanks for your support really appreciate it will check out your channel too 👍
Take care
Roo
Nice mods!
Mountaincoffee Outdoors I know its just the top of an old can but I'm rather pleased with my home made cup lid 🤣
Thanks for watching buddy, take care
Roo
I think that I might have to pick up one of these stoves...looks like a fun and useful toy! (Don't tell my wife!)
Mountaincoffee Outdoors secrets safe with me buddy 😉
For some reason both my phone and tablet struggle to play this video.
Anyone else having the same issue? I see it's view count is quite low!
Sorry to hear that, it's working on my phone maybe it's just a RUclips glitch?
Thanks for trying though 👍
Take care
Roo
It played!!!
No idea what the problem was but after trying about 20 times (I'm waiting in my Swiss Army Volcano Stove delivery and have been watching review vids since placing the order).
Good idea with the top. Looks like some kind of ikea fixing for the handle. I'll deffo do something similar. The sink drainer things good too. don't you just love it when you find a little bit of tat like that and find a use for it in your bush craft kit
@@rtronorba7309 indeed, the little handle is a 19mm hex head through bolt I had spare
But in hindsight would probably look better with a little wooden knob screwed on
I'm sure you'll be very happy once you get your set it's a nice lightweight kit
Take care mate
Roo
I currently have the same problem.
@@thomasmusso1147 if I had a tin foil hat I'd start thinking RUclips doesn't like me but I'm an unknown minnow so it's more likely that it's just a glitch 😉
Sorry, hopefully it will resolve itself somehow but thanks for stopping by and trying I really appreciate it 👍
Take care
Roo